From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 16:18:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6775B2D074E for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:18:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354332D0665 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so2744077ied.14 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BYvK980LFA/nDKETt28Xs2PbdKngIdXEIjW2LSdQshY=; b=0au4VNLSlE+i2oqn4bope94QqxsXEbcEuScdJfzypf7D9X1XFMe7yHQgcGRbsCt2bX JwxFhO/cZnDePuyZt6w/TSs9YDArNqRBiHfJN9eYONgilonHWyOyGTN23bovezhl78WF f11KeqrNSooUeTiwpTR2OwJYqwVQn5HQjK4CIEKhh1VZZgvsZwRpI01gZulmI4p+5B+k /ebA0wOwOmRnCOKhukeXcAksli48bjl0d10WVFBaNAZkYmoBqFl3zaCPCPLnSzirUF67 /BftQRfh3g3HTX2XGZeY6mpPna2/adBt9leMPkhz3GRZ/vPfz5j77PegT6UFsvSyyFzL QhZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.57.5 with SMTP id we5mr4394608icb.23.1350771679871; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.57.74 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nick Wolf To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Trade or sell TR4 for Herald convertible X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi listers I've got a growing family, which is why I haven't posted here in a long time. It's also why I've decided to sell my TR4 and go looking for a Herald convertible. Michelotti styling with 4 seats! My car is an early '62 TR4, signal red with black leather interior and overdrive. It's an older restoration in good shape, with just a few quirks to sort out. Is there anyone out there with a really nice Herald who might be interested in a part trade? Please contact me off list. Details and photos are here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3353232526.html Thanks! -Nick 1962 TR4 Seattle, WA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 17:16:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B013F2D078C for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:16:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6C02D077D for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:09:23 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Q1PSKdR/a+Or/GlQZb3aJZIuEdIB073yNpf86RRh64be6t8M0GpHmacmbL/voU6O; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.189.114] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiBU-0008Jd-JA for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:10:24 -0400 Message-ID: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:10:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711205b04a747c7dc36eb3bb38812ef265c3450d8af12176b98c5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.189.114 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Splash plates for TR4A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone try to fit TRFbs splash plates (behind front wheels, between inner and outer fenders)? They sell the same part for the 4A through 6. If these are the correct parts for the 4A, they will take some significant rebending to follow the angles on the inner fender. Wondering if somehow I got a bad pair or if there are better choices out there. Thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 05:25:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FD12D0197 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 05:25:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861F52C0D4A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 05:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5mkS1k0030Fqzac53nUEnl; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:28:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.196] ([71.192.208.10]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5nU11k0040E03aX3UnU2hC; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:28:02 +0000 References: From: Anthony Rhodes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <325699CC-88D4-411A-BF66-E447F741A656@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:28:09 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: [TR] C40 generators X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Apparently the generator and voltage regulator for the TR2-4A evolved over tone. Initially they were rated for 19 ps, then later rated for 22A. Are there any model numbers to distinguish which generator is which? And which regulator is which? Internally how we're they different? I once thought that there was no change in the generator, it was just pushed a little harder by the regulator. But I have not clearly identified a difference between older and newer regulators relay windings. Recently a friend noted a possible difference between generator armature windings. One had 5 turns of a pair of wires for each commutator terminal while another had 6 turns. Could 5 turns be for 22A and 6turns for 19A? I have 2 spare generators both are stamped Lucas and C40-1. One seems to be dated 1965 and the other 1976. -Tony Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to > triumphs@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > triumphs-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > triumphs-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue (hdrider570@att.net) > 2. Re: Tarbaby Triumph, sort of (Dave1massey@cs.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:44:51 -0700 > From: "hdrider570@att.net" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue > Message-ID: <506741A3.8020206@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I had a similar problem with a TR4. It was one of the float valves > sticking closed. The easy cure is to tap the top of the float > chamber with the handle end of a screw driver. > > Near as I can figure it was cause by minute partials of rust mixing with > the lead substitute gumming up the valves > if they dried out from sitting. The problem eventually cured itself > just through driving a lot. I expect it finally flushed all the > partials out. > > If this is your problem my guess is that removing the top of the carb > shakes it up enough to free the needle valve. > > Edward Hamer > Petaluma CA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > To: Triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Tarbaby Triumph, sort of > Message-ID: <4daf.32873b9.3d999202@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The best of both worlds. You get to work on it and someone else pays for > it! > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/28/2012 6:40:34 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@bradakis.com writes: >> Sure enough, I head down there and there sits that TR7 that sat outside >> that Tunex > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Triumphs mailing list > Triumphs@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > > > End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 394 > **************************************** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 07:55:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D724E2D0210 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:55:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804D62D019F for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 07:55:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ZsSu2ywPUYAA:10 a=vgYLb1bzaKr9l5lBjUQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0NPC-irhctV4HBqJ:21 a=-kEbUyzLBAu8BS-3:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A5/FD-17657-281A9605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:58:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Anthony Rhodes'" , References: <325699CC-88D4-411A-BF66-E447F741A656@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 06:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: <095501cd9fdc$f6594740$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <325699CC-88D4-411A-BF66-E447F741A656@comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2fx/AmWwpEWOcFRBuL3sVvXOeWcQAD71Rw Subject: Re: [TR] C40 generators X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The 19 amp generator was model C39PV/2, part 22258x. The main housing is slightly smaller diameter than the later C40 but the mounting points are the same (making them interchangeable as complete units even though the parts are different). ISTR that at least some of the C40s had a step in the housing but I could be mistaken on that point. I don't know if it would apply to all Lucas units, but at least for the Triumph application, the C39 had screw terminals while the C40 had 'Lucar' quick connects. I don't know if they were electrically different or not, it may have been just that the larger armature cooled better. The C39 will easily put out 22 amps (or more), but will eventually overheat at that current. Very early control boxes were RB106/1, but early RB106/2 were also for the 19 amp generator, part number 37182x. My documentation shows part number 37283x and 37290x for the 22 amp version (which again had Lucar instead of screw terminals). Again I'm not certain if there was any electrical difference, but the "open circuit voltage" specification went up by 0.4 volts. I grabbed one of each out of the parts bin and they definitely have the same number of current turns on the regulator relay, but there might be a change in the number of voltage turns (which are inside a plastic sleeve and hard to see). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 08:08:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441E82D02A1 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:08:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A952D01BD for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bty3mFcMuppyqbCENVEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=XNmK4lOH6gVQ8qktyMZb/Q==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.170] ([10.128.132.170:40369] helo=hrndva-web19-z02) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id BE/12-01227-A74A9605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: <20121001141106.96SQU.283362.root@hrndva-web19-z02> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:11:06 -0400 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall In-Reply-To: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I seem to recall mine is a 1980 Camaro and the clock position is around 5 O'clock installed. I have a new question for the group. There is a small Alternator that puts out around 40 amps, does anyone know that application? I'd rather not have the single wire style but if that's all that is available then OK. JVV ---- Randall wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator > conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for > the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). > > Anyone know offhand? > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv@roadrunner.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 08:23:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C8D2D028C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:23:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E432D01C9 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:21:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so4998312pad.14 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gTZgrlplkawWuglEGialcLqf9BCZDwZGESlfNRLn7+A=; b=uH2GwcPzvTP3Z7JdCZVJvcHPZo1O08RFIjj+oydLxlNdqTeMtCyPqUCiqjgdW5A2SG /vdtTKDCACTyfX0FSO3Zw3M7tVFNlk+HaVyzDphZbALkUn0T3/aEwwxySVBpEbBWojWj Z0dg3gEwx8fuWk/p30flS5Ak37hG0q2CEbhCKz4xcZB9+0tsEN09sIfJT/eAhiKCtca8 dKDlVlJvSUkQgGldWXYgN3TtqNCWDgFASsEWaaWLUif9f6EHksfg+iGkbBikI6OBpJS8 Pg3+ROXnrLj0J4l4mtbrdGhvOxNWaPLWmIEMfynzbFGMMDB8tNAFRNbt5PFORHwb6bwW bumg== Received: by 10.68.222.7 with SMTP id qi7mr26842751pbc.112.1349101492645; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-60-95.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.60.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm10351976pbv.66.2012.10.01.07.24.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5069A7B1.7080306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:24:49 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/30/12 10:02 PM, Randall wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator > conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for > the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). > > Anyone know offhand? > I have a web page covering the alternator which gives some applications. http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/Delco_Alternators.html Land Rovers like 3 O'clock rotations so most of my applications are for that orientation, but I have a couple at 9 O'clock. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 08:33:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20622D024A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:33:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4B22C0D2B for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:33:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5mHE1k0021uE5Es53qcC0u; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:36:12 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5qcP1k00t2xV5no3cqcP3Q; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:36:23 +0000 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:36:00 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: Randall , Triumphs List Message-ID: <1513298378.2572694.1349102160138.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <095501cd9fdc$f6594740$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [10.240.4.70, ::ffff:216.19.230.177] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] C40 generators X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall, Thanks for the GREAT info.B I had not known that the C39 was the "19 amp" version.B I had noticed the step down in the case diameter in the C40, and I presume it was to be used in some retrofit situations for the C39, and needed the clearance. It makes sense that the came compensated regulator unit could be used for 19 amps or 22 amps just by increasing the regulated voltage (and therefore current) b y a little.B This results in more overcharging by day, but less discharging by night. I have a few donor RB106 units.B Some are pretty old (1950's) and I will see if I can compare to newer ones If I have any on the voltage alone B vs voltage+ current action. I am not thrilled at all by the overcharging that occurs by day when using "maintenance-free" batteries!!!B I am not a fan of the entire "compensated" design. -Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" To: "Anthony Rhodes" , triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 9:59:23 AM Subject: RE: [TR] C40 generators The 19 amp generator was model C39PV/2, part 22258x. B The main housing is slightly smaller diameter than the later C40 but the mounting points are the same (making them interchangeable as complete units even though the parts are different). B ISTR that at least some of the C40s had a step in the housing but I could be mistaken on that point. B I don't know if it would apply to all Lucas units, but at least for the Triumph application, the C39 had screw terminals while the C40 had 'Lucar' quick connects. B I don't know if they were electrically different or not, it may have been just that the larger armature cooled better. B The C39 will easily put out 22 amps (or more), but will eventually overheat at that current. Very early control boxes were RB106/1, but early RB106/2 were also for the 19 amp generator, part number 37182x. B My documentation shows part number 37283x and 37290x for the 22 amp version (which again had Lucar instead of screw terminals). B Again I'm not certain if there was any electrical difference, but the "open circuit voltage" specification went up by 0.4 volts. B I grabbed one of each out of the parts bin and they definitely have the same number of current turns on the regulator relay, but there might be a change in the number of voltage turns (which are inside a plastic sleeve and hard to see). -- Randall B ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 09:28:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAFA2D01EC for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:28:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1A02C0D4A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:27:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=Rbu_d2-BDwz6J1DtJa0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LyGxgO8PJJBQhemjBSEA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=uNmngNBKgOinMWzs:18 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 65/B9-28917-337B9605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:31:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> <20121001141106.96SQU.283362.root@hrndva-web19-z02> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:31:56 -0700 Message-ID: <098401cd9fe9$e4617140$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <20121001141106.96SQU.283362.root@hrndva-web19-z02> Thread-Index: Ac2f3pjgO3pKDjylREWLfwbJhsfpqQACT6Yw X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Jerry, I'll pass that along. > There is a small > Alternator that puts out around 40 amps, does anyone know > that application? Chris "Mad" Marx told me that his came from an 89 Suzuki Swift. Unfortunately my FLAPS didn't have that one in stock, and I don't know the application for the unit they sold me. It is not a single wire design, there are 3 control tabs as well as the main output. I haven't researched yet what they are, but I'm guessing that one is for the dash light, one is battery sense (which you could just wire to the output if you want, I will wire it to the starter solenoid), and the third needs to get power from the ignition circuit. That seems to be what most of the Japanese alternators use. -- Randall [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Suzuki Swift alternator on TR4 - MadMarx.jpg] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 09:54:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8506C2D0168 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:54:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5272C0D1B for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 09:52:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=H_xCtFoP5wu3MfCHRZgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 08/07-17657-BDCB9605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:55:08 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> <5069A7B1.7080306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:56:04 -0700 Message-ID: <098901cd9fed$4368ce60$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <5069A7B1.7080306@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2f6f3t4s36paHAQZ+Z+j1DCK5FTAAAw3Tw Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Land Rovers like 3 O'clock rotations so most of my applications are > for that orientation, but I have a couple at 9 O'clock. Thanks, TeriAnn. Wouldn't 3 o'clock also be the most appropriate for a TR3/4 ? Seems like that would position the wires the farthest away from the exhaust manifold. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 12:20:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD992D01B2 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:20:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DD232C0D1D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.92] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 18:24:01 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.112] by tm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 18:24:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 18:24:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 196260.56933.bm@omp1017.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 25378 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2012 18:24:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1349115840; bh=pPZA/SOi0YkQsur7EhbdZqVYOr0XAd5b22EMYQz5GfU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xp6CWB4d0iYthSzP6f+fXii4xaABGO8ErWZAgNTng47p7vXxFjHE+IDgXZtL/8prSxKnpoFtGUWfijvYtEofy3K1OjfviapHsIJZL/PXSjo8t0WzG0zvDormmSh24H9d8r2+ZAzw5fhW+jnrjf6a0PJDjEbPFjlEazJ38h0VErk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WR8+LSsTxdT/TEY4MFEUVkl2NEu+vZ1TPFhQibKVFBvTXXNuRTM/BhMEAM30SqlDMorMoAh+nEWPsY7PBHiBo9Ht/YorOSHlGKgNf8ZUQGxsiA5bB82Y0DYazFLwaaw+d6DY/g44IKEoYdqWml8jie/jIqF9Li53yFc8L1Sb9Tk=; X-YMail-OSG: Pyhr7gAVM1m0VqePeiHhOR6Guu17icDlR6D0T4fHvBO.b.p YN1bxK6HClT9z.fvu23JdQgWyan0zr8vd61rMx32pas3ldaDlvhiGf.E9349 dOepPrFnwD1VdCyMGT8sfLcLpzrHYiDCscef16huUmTgKPvJCDb11jRi7g3E 0TiQTN7sZYkp_oTbInhdrwytfT18Dw7BEJ1BiFEdrHpS8aeCwLosJ89NSbTU 1iNPMuojuMVnGZ_VnOJuLfdKtID6T8JicpZpbqPS9q08afauzMkaNHCM2et2 iZlFNC9jLovPmE5PH9SwF4w0kDnwX1Z_1yxl0Ecu.AaV4acBH3.1xudCkVFI VlGDsbJPF_UjA5YrisO1HkI4V0EcYcc3LvD08bAeNnmhB0xDCD6p4dVwwFTR oUXYKFnH3QYQ9ENNsPd42VBaC8KxtttngCn12dj2qeeThpmXDCVIHNObmi9s inuHj320qmNZrGbEKbAwDiZwCgZpnDQ-- Received: from [68.121.156.132] by web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:24:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 Message-ID: <1349115840.77458.YahooMailClassic@web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:24:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Q To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just as a note it is very simple to change the "Clocking" of most alternators. It is just a matter of removing the long bolts that hold the two halves of body together, separating slightly, and turning the bodies to the desired position. This is a very common procedure for American made cars. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 15:05:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6DD2D01D8 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:05:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail965c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail965c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF11F2D0164 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail965c35.nsolutionszone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail965c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q91L8dHK003062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:08:40 GMT Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail965c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id q91L8dwN003061 for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:08:39 GMT Received: from 99-195-149-48.dyn.centurytel.net (99-195-149-48.dyn.centurytel.net [99.195.149.48]) by webmail2.centurytel.net (Webmail 4.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:08:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20121001170839.9vx3q6yn6i0o088s@webmail2.centurytel.net> From: "John Maneke" To: "Triumph list" Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:08:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=uibPNykB2BbHQ+UDcYkn3Ag6Bexf0ZlEPJhqQRp9ysg= c=1 sm=1 a=vFMCQZgPscsA:10 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=925B3bQ_JZMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qTGRmYtkAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dynt39AsAAAA:8 a=sqYO3pKVrv-iYnTOmz0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Jw29t_AgHPoA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.506A0658.001E, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jmaneke@centurytel.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Any GM 10si alternator will work. The clocking of the alternator can be changed simply by undoing the four bolts that hold the two halves together and rotating the rear to whatever position that you need. Be it 12, 3, 6 or 9 o'clock. This made the alternator extremely cheap for GM to use as it covered all there cars during it's use. For more info go to this site. http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/delcoremy.shtml John Maneke Quoting Randall : > Hi Folks, > > I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator > conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for > the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). > > Anyone know offhand? > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jmaneke@centurytel.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 16:00:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E5D2D0164 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:00:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A3AF92C0CE4 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:03:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.167] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:03:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:03:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 616411.55764.bm@omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69873 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2012 22:03:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349129015; bh=84OQmXXLazQ9BoxG6gjtPzXANOIWahjD55OUTvpNlLw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eXjGlw2C/pBz+xeeQQBnuCz/ibfdR/ykYUKmY4s3oXUF1HaYDZlXkRVl3mqg87ReEU2O0+o317Q5dZVWrZkAykI18qzG2izTUD4ZCIE6b/+kGmBemccvWiHFyoJ4nr7QDFP3PnDoD3KQw0aKV7k01Hd970tWhHdBc8qq/AzxCoc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SCSKx/pG4l79fTuq9ZfkI8IEXpQutll8aAOrmwxEjkJfxbVJsbcn7gnnwgW8gaN7xgS318hklTmboR/zE2nzs7X8pUPB6syQ6g1cmF0JOQOq3sTs/igrIJrxAyeaYL7SotgQIuBK8mAkBjflVMyMq4su6VDw5TCZgWaU2h77tL8=; X-YMail-OSG: bSN24R0VM1lpcA45_N7ldDnA9G6W1qxF3RhwlguJGMwBa9p Mdoge..I.WKjHnJVE1vySJ7xHXfB_trDZm5vubjpiJaQHGikpvx99PTEpV6r YRRgjC7.weJZiYbzmex1ANR1lHOn3.vl7ZUomuyMJLn.iaR5Ko0MHqQ3I9eE JD6aBBExFfOUCFiFbhZKbLRvqV2aoQ0c9goVj.fShXgs0ULfP81m1rSm9fSf LTs.8_5oErWwRoym0GKnHqBz8f9h4oYvxNlo_N.2h9Ihz7NsRqPdFRg41HfR TNMc2IxGgAIhNQuteX_LzHa2.7kOppWjmf_2R211VJ4lyc3ggRsjfJ5WMt5H 8oddftjJ22pzxtT5M0PEr6B.RVctS4u3uiVbWcmM0yao.TAva2xY68PocCtR DYW3cKCHqC0MmSjP_kX.w7SPN1_9V8LBNdwI8xstXcrBUomDkuz.jehWUa8l eSu6NX27naojsPQnUueOsLqU1NB2DOO0Ulwgku8_fGyW8PM0BNJf2Q4HQXwg EaqmlsnUS8eP4yjEmk6VSWBpTAY8_YJJmuildEOj1S324 Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:03:34 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1349129014.67997.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , Triumphs In-Reply-To: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall thought id share my experiences of fitting the GM alternator on two-TR3's. my first experience was with buddy Paul's car. he had bought a "kit" off Ebay. it simply bolted on to the standard triumph generator bracket and adjusting bracket. the problem we later found with this approach was that there was no support for the rear of the alternator. consequently when we tensioned the belt we pulled the alternator out of plane. the belt then rubbed against the side of the pulley and we suffered premature wear and loss of the belt at the most inopportune time. Paul's conversion came with a machined front pulley for the wide belt. building a bracket to support the rear of the alternator is a little tricky but certainly not out of your realm. you will see the mounting hole on the back is not in line with the front. your new rear bracket must have a slotted adjustment hole. when i put an alternator in my TR3 i used the pulley off the standard generator. machined it to fit and built a special nut. but in doing so i pushed the pulley forward of the rest of the pulleys by about 3/16". so i was forced to grind off some of the aluminum mounting tab of the alternator. again i build a slotted support for the back of the alternator. Frank From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: [TR] 10Si alternator application Hi Folks, I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). Anyone know offhand? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 16:12:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648C82C0D41 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9863A2C0D1C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:15:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.254] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:15:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2012 22:15:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 81645.84671.bm@omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 69840 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2012 22:15:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349129744; bh=92cvGVMrGvTp5JGEHlvQ2PnhJbu67veoqFpa7Vn3H2g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SrBM9MLUThA1tLDeTgpBYDY45j6qYa7EssPvYZ0VqFW9zih5/4CdTtewCes/BrQxPHMjJLU0RYY0j0DFiVHRVm0iRhqsatCtss0gCZxuk8owob95X2OD+ZslAbISgSeSdfLpk8aFqMp+0/Edj3vJkfyruXWVFiWY6iUfl5PyHf0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G7RzVXEH6iepAZWdrwl0o4GcnWWGCc/I0yXM6Hp3WFZaHRChjNKcFpF4TUxCxODm2JlGaTajP6p4qsFK+vvG7xsj5wWyJYwulpHsiu6iZaJ/HQLU2pf70Spbst50iGRWXaFeEQKAZzmzO5TtF4oCvqNOkEmkXqUv74cV+BHLyMQ=; X-YMail-OSG: UWJb7_kVM1luOjc2LcGbQQAKq13BlkT53FAIBfxIY1SlLVt i02bm979WjJWTaYRNvTLZ7QmOYoeH4oJ4fSxgaMK9nsjtgKygYkhRlbHnQNi zU.oXm.3rG1fTfhucdQTZL9aDxMQJW3ac5iteVPd4EsMbSRAFFuFcl1zqS8e 01Xe4loGe4vkMe17eTldvjFquMfiLHr_f0SsaIbGdHYXIPDSXSJN1uVjDGnf 3gWSL8NxooNzbmyqbvTk6pswVpT3HJXukeMWIUHuQ3TtJqsXPd97VgBgTVVi 8_ZsFCGUu3D03g.KVKKegvCQcMlvCm57KMCgLshgIDDGdp4R6L_NltL0Us7H 2fBuLDjcp0PZWW3w6T9ddRQp9fo1X2oxyK8PFgENxpuxDLfgG6u65HX.dJzi TyMiBxO1jVBUGa82pbt2RZKQkvWXgYTsV.nGZ_I3Tv6CAb2KOKNN89ZfxcnN vwV7WARFPJDA49VoGGFHW_KNnW.xxvUGMGP82xkgoqdLHH3ZpZMflvaGXu_9 034MjH7RU Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:15:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> <1349129014.67997.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1349129743.11036.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Frank Fisher , Randall , Triumphs In-Reply-To: <1349129014.67997.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net thinking about it i did not have a slotted bracket. old man memory here. i made a part of the new bracket fit tight against the alternator so it would not rotate. the bracket then fit the back of the standard block bracket. but its a PIA to get the nut and bolt back there and as i recall i could not get a nice long one piece bolt to fit. if i need to i can stick my camera down there and shoot some pics for you. Frank From: Frank Fisher To: Randall ; Triumphs Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application Randall thought id share my experiences of fitting the GM alternator on two-TR3's. my first experience was with buddy Paul's car. he had bought a "kit" off Ebay. it simply bolted on to the standard triumph generator bracket and adjusting bracket. the problem we later found with this approach was that there was no support for the rear of the alternator. consequently when we tensioned the belt we pulled the alternator out of plane. the belt then rubbed against the side of the pulley and we suffered premature wear and loss of the belt at the most inopportune time. Paul's conversion came with a machined front pulley for the wide belt. building a bracket to support the rear of the alternator is a little tricky but certainly not out of your realm. you will see the mounting hole on the back is not in line with the front. your new rear bracket must have a slotted adjustment hole. when i put an alternator in my TR3 i used the pulley off the standard generator. machined it to fit and built a special nut. but in doing so i pushed the pulley forward of the rest of the pulleys by about 3/16". so i was forced to grind off some of the aluminum mounting tab of the alternator. again i build a slotted support for the back of the alternator. Frank From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: [TR] 10Si alternator application Hi Folks, I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). Anyone know offhand? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 16:22:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC9D2D01EC for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:22:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B1F2C0CE4 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=Fjl8er1jBpqeiLgePOcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:65126] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 5C/8B-28917-0B71A605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:22:40 +0000 Message-ID: <20121001222240.I5IZY.107280.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:22:40 -0400 From: Randall To: Triumph list In-Reply-To: <20121001170839.9vx3q6yn6i0o088s@webmail2.centurytel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Any GM 10si alternator will work. The clocking of the alternator can be > changed simply by undoing the four bolts that hold the two halves Thanks, John. I am aware of that, however some people are intimidated by the thought of disassembling a freshly rebuilt alternator (possibly voiding the warranty) before finding out if it works. Others may be intimidated just by the thought of disassembling the unit and potentially having parts fall out, brushes spring out of their holder, etc. Since this step can be avoided by simply knowing what words to say at the parts store, it seems like a reasonable question to ask. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 16:24:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59502D01EC for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:24:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229AA2C0D1C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=Fjl8er1jBpqeiLgePOcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:65221] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 80/7F-28917-4D81A605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:27:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20121001222732.8RI2X.107309.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:27:32 -0400 From: Randall To: Triumph list MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Any GM 10si alternator will work. The clocking of the alternator can be > changed simply by undoing the four bolts that hold the two halves Thanks, John. I am aware of that, however some people are intimidated by the thought of disassembling a freshly rebuilt alternator (possibly voiding the warranty) before finding out if it works. Others may be intimidated just by the thought of disassembling the unit and potentially having parts fall out, brushes spring out of their holder, etc. Since this step can be avoided by simply knowing what words to say at the parts store, it seems like a reasonable question to ask. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 16:28:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBAE2D01D8 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:28:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEBA2C0CE4 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=3XwNRDH9PL0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=L_YFS_uSC-0A:10 a=Fjl8er1jBpqeiLgePOcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:65286] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 12/52-28917-EA91A605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:31:10 +0000 Message-ID: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:31:10 -0400 From: Randall To: Triumph list MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Any GM 10si alternator will work. The clocking of the alternator can be > changed simply by undoing the four bolts that hold the two halves Thanks, John. I am aware of that, however some people are intimidated by the thought of disassembling a freshly rebuilt alternator (possibly voiding the warranty) before finding out if it works. Others may be intimidated just by the thought of disassembling the unit and potentially having parts fall out, brushes spring out of their holder, etc. Since this step can be avoided by simply knowing what words to say at the parts store, it seems like a reasonable question to ask. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 18:42:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5962C0D16 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:42:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E22C0CE3 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W32 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:45:37 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:45:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2012 00:45:37.0959 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D882370:01CDA037] Subject: [TR] Rocker Arm X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Many years ago I had a set of TR6 rockers rebuilt. I was thinking the place was called ROCKER ARM EXCHANGE" but I must be wrong because I cannot find anything under that name. Any suggestions? Thanks, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 18:47:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3287B2D014D for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:47:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7772C0CB6 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:47:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:17 a=xkgW_vOJTMkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=-M0FdlImnPMA:10 a=RWjMWt905pcTWbl3Q3kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.69.175 Received: from [72.130.69.175] ([72.130.69.175:53094] helo=Lambert1) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BF/2F-01227-34A3A605; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 00:50:12 +0000 From: "D&B Lambert" To: "'Triumph list'" References: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> In-Reply-To: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:46:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2gJIJciFjYr5eLTI+pOq+z81DneAAEI/uw Subject: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, Just to got home from Triumphest. Had a great time. Now for the question: For the first time in 12 years my TR3A overheated on a couple of the grades going south out of Las Vegas. I finally had to stop in Hesperia for an hour to let things cool down. Yes, it was hot, and I was pushing pretty hard, but it's never been a problem before. I'm imagining that the radiator must be getting crudded up. It's an original radiator, still with the crank hole, and was rodded about 10 years ago. I'm thinking it's finally time to replace it. My choices are: 1) getting the original re-rodded, 2) having a local radiator shop install a modern core, or 3) buying a new aluminum radiator from one of the big three. Keeping the crank hole is not important for me; the only use I have had for it was to use the crank when adjusting the valves (for that it's pretty handy). I have no experience, but have been told by more than one person that the repro's from the usual suspects are not, um, exactly great. Is that true? I know we've already had the copper vs aluminum debate (once or twice), so I'm not trying to start that discussion here - I'm looking for "been there, done that" stories. I need some help making up my mind which way to go. Thanks, Dennis ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 19:08:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A872C0D12 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:08:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1392C0CE1 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:08:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A082E065 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <506A3FDD.3080406@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:14:05 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rocker Arm X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Did you check the Monster list at http://www.dimebank.com/monster for a listing? mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 19:08:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46932C0D04 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:08:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A482C0D1B for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:08:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=s-QYbxAo__gA:10 a=_ylBMxWWAAAA:8 a=Fp_t9LKW0SbqTx_0xaMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=91FSlPjnkeIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:52910] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EC/FB-01227-75F3A605; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 01:11:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Lemon" To: "marty sukey" , "Triumph List" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:11:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Rocker Arm X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rocker Arm Specialists? who I think now have morphed into rockerarms.com ot something like that? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 20:49:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B622C0D0C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:49:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C602C0CDF for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:49:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q922qrTw004994; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:52:53 -0400 Received: from core-dsc003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.73]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AC9B1E000082; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:52:53 -0400 (EDT) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Message-ID: <865a.3eb37fbd.3d9bb105@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:52:53 -0400 (EDT) To: blambert@socal.rr.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [96.22.166.98] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349146373; bh=cqXbvMeKERyPVzSkAi4VxDX9bV2APnAjA9cOAVEjPuE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xXnI6QuD2XFxzXd6ZxE0XA/v57agPlDg4vZBe1sbtcpTa8D4DpuD2lxqvyvfaLSXr NcfuJ6K4qBd3bu8Xq2ah8H6p7PSpS7reKAVYgccnlKC3YnTBraqKOC0URL0QJxhjIa WnwzjUhdT01cMEGVCMGZGtkAlOE3xoeX4buOiL88= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:453692160:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7506a57057d06 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dennis; I had exactly the same problem and decided to sort everything in one fell swoop. I had the radiator recored with a thicker core and no starter handle hole. I only did this because I had fitted a gear-reduction starter, which is far more reliable than the bomb starter I had before. I then added the upgraded water pump from The Roadster Factory which, in my opinion, is a fabulous piece of kit. I also added the TR6 cooling fan conversion, as I didn't want an electric fan (but beware it requires a TR6 fan from an era of TR6 where the fan is slightly different and no longer available. I found a used one from a used British car specialist in PA. The car now runs beautifully cool, even in hot 30+ degree celsius temperatures. If you have any other questions, let me know. Tim In a message dated 01/10/2012 8:50:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, blambert@socal.rr.com writes: All, Just to got home from Triumphest. Had a great time. Now for the question: For the first time in 12 years my TR3A overheated on a couple of the grades going south out of Las Vegas. I finally had to stop in Hesperia for an hour to let things cool down. Yes, it was hot, and I was pushing pretty hard, but it's never been a problem before. I'm imagining that the radiator must be getting crudded up. It's an original radiator, still with the crank hole, and was rodded about 10 years ago. I'm thinking it's finally time to replace it. My choices are: 1) getting the original re-rodded, 2) having a local radiator shop install a modern core, or 3) buying a new aluminum radiator from one of the big three. Keeping the crank hole is not important for me; the only use I have had for it was to use the crank when adjusting the valves (for that it's pretty handy). I have no experience, but have been told by more than one person that the repro's from the usual suspects are not, um, exactly great. Is that true? I know we've already had the copper vs aluminum debate (once or twice), so I'm not trying to start that discussion here - I'm looking for "been there, done that" stories. I need some help making up my mind which way to go. Thanks, Dennis ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 21:04:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E712C0D19 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:04:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9702C0CE0 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=s-QYbxAo__gA:10 a=Bdj897DwAAAA:8 a=_ylBMxWWAAAA:8 a=LO54pAFhe4zwP9c5qwMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=l0eNGSnOzz0A:10 a=jPFK6jun2RMA:10 a=Nd86_k8auzwA:10 a=EXiwqvOIV8oA:10 a=oLBF_n0I7SUA:10 a=y7jgZTrQXToA:10 a=7IvzIPBQMIIA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:37092] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 7D/C8-28917-E5A5A605; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:07:11 +0000 Message-ID: <20121002030711.34AHU.109021.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:07:10 -0400 From: Randall To: Triumph List , marty sukey In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Rocker Arm X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Any chance you are thinking of: Rocker Arm Specialist 19841 Hirsch Court Anderson, CA 96007 Tel (530) 378-1075 (800)747-2767 fax (530) 378-1177 mailto:rocker@c-zone.net http://www.rockerarms.com/index.htm It has been a few years now, but I was very pleased with the work they did on my TR3A rocker shaft. The cost was modest as well, roughly the same I would have paid for just the parts. All new adjusters, locknuts, springs, bushings and the shaft itself. The rockers I'm not certain about, they certainly looked new. Only the pedestals, end caps and locking screw were clearly the original parts. (They had been nicely cleaned up, but not remachined or anything.) I've lost track of how many miles I've got on that rocker shaft; the only issue I have ever had is that the roll pin they used on the rear cap started to work it's way out (which I discovered when I moved it from the wrecked 3A to the current TR3). I replaced it with a stock solid pin and all seems to be well. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 21:33:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D562C0D08 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:33:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF252C0CE4 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 21:30:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so7661967vbk.14 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:33:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K6jiZYeDY+KK6FB1w4ojuhXZRJBsKVe0wsy2iLFSjEA=; b=DjEcP9bk1WTibhGgG+0OQcmr9GKT0H1HB/h6CK/WD7Kg6TJGiJK71l7u1TUi1clra7 r69kZ1V/242BfI9tGMF5hbZJUBLyRUsQB7ducFlCCDaQNH2JMFD3RC5rDxfkiZ+m0gwy T3Fb805tHBgu+7/nHbLBjlgCmSq6UjjqERDBbMEGuB4Z1okmMOh9pY1+TobdL5u5/H4b sguZ2thcKbFQ56C90OZGWquhO8+Qijmy1HFqtMhHMh2G/32hhTYFyNwSp68EUlzydZE1 jiyViJ5QnfKlLjtDzWvTfAwes3zpqwxpCHjNRbYxx5Hp5fpOxZt7d3+xCZupDPvzInEz 6jmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.13.33 with SMTP id e1mr9517401vec.51.1349148794301; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.187.112 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 20:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:33:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Nippondenso mini alternator (coffee can, racing, etc alt) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Following up on the thread below - the Suzuki Swift alternator. A number of racing catalogs list a small light weight alt for big $$. I bought an e-bay one (didn't know it was Chinese until I received it). Earlier this Summer I happened upon the Sideways Forums ( http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php/forum/1-technical-discussion-boards/ ),found the Small Triumph archived folder and started reading the posts and found several articles referring to the mini Denso alt and recognised the alt as looking like the one I bought off e-Bay. I suspect that this is the small Nippondenso alternator. >From my reading, the smallest of the alt came with Japanese mini cars at about 40 amp. Same alt, but only 25 amp, found on Kubota tractors. Some links: http://crazyspitfire.blogspot.com/2006/05/22-kilo-saving-alternator-joys.html http://westfield-world.com/daihatsu_alternator.html (has wiring diagram) I was at a pick & pull type of salvage yard and found an 85 Honda Civic with what I thought was the mini alt. Once I had it removed, it was the same pattern but a size bigger. BTW, every so often the discussion comes up about dismantling frt brake calipers (and how the caliper bolts are sacred - don't undo them). Some of our Triumph brethren on the other side of the pond are splitting the calipers to put spacers between in order to run vented rotors. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Randall" To: , Cc: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:31:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application Thanks, Jerry, I'll pass that along. > There is a small > Alternator that puts out around 40 amps, does anyone know > that application? Chris "Mad" Marx told me that his came from an 89 Suzuki Swift. Unfortunately my FLAPS didn't have that one in stock, and I don't know the application for the unit they sold me. It is not a single wire design, there are 3 control tabs as well as the main output. I haven't researched yet what they are, but I'm guessing that one is for the dash light, one is battery sense (which you could just wire to the output if you want, I will wire it to the starter solenoid), and the third needs to get power from the ignition circuit. That seems to be what most of the Japanese alternators use. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 1 23:23:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB1E2C0D28 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:23:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7802C0D0C for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:23:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:17 a=T3xOmAtW2PYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vLzR3HpEt1oA:10 a=XlJyEp6W2xgqVCjp-RAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NtezwKhTlLTVOOxj:21 a=VolahHIjzVhQNg84:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=6dJ0vyqdLmnM01vB_bQA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.89.87.109 Received: from [76.89.87.109] ([76.89.87.109:65218] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 67/86-11767-EFA7A605; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 05:26:22 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:26:21 -0700 Message-ID: <00c501cda05e$754f1760$5fed4620$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2gXnQ2Rp4651bzQQWHqLl8/mAtRg== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Uff Da at Triumphest 2012 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wow, what a week. Last Tuesday, while loading my TR4A on the trailer preparing for TRFest, I separated the muffler system. Sounded cool, but don't think the cops would like it, and was fixable. I'll wait until Flagstaff since it was 7 PM and I had other packing to do. Around 9 PM my wife Pattie and I are watching TV and says she smells gas. The tie down straps pinched a fuel line that dumped a half a tank of gas on the ground. Yikes. Ten pounds of kitty litter was our savior. Wednesday morning I was at O'Reillys when they opened getting 5/16" fuel line. So, finally got to Flagstaff and the muffler and fuel line are fixed. I was tinkering with my car when Jerry Fisher, who's 80, walked up and said the motor blew on his 2000 and it's still in Blythe. The symptoms are clanking noises, oil everywhere and a lot of black smoke. Blythe? OMG. If you don't know where Blythe is, think of the gates to hell (GTH), only worse. So, Jerry deservedly got the Uff Da award at Triumphest. Anyway, I told Jerry we could pick his car up on the way home, put it on the trailer and I'd drive my car back to San Diego. OK, we had a plan. We left Flagstaff Sunday morning after another great Triumphest. I love the pine trees. Along the way Jerry started to get groin pains. I'm blaming the Starbucks we stopped at just outside of Flagstaff. Anyway, the further we went the more pain Jerry was in. Got to the GTH, and was off-loading my car when it bottomed out and separated the muffler again. Damn. Now we have two broken cars. Anyway, we got Jerry's car loaded on the trailer. It was 106 deg outside. I think I lost 10 pounds. Said "screw it" and we went to get lunch, somewhere with air conditioning. I didn't want to get outside and fix the muffler again so I started to look for a place to fix it. Roberto's Taco's and Tires was as close as I could come to an open garage on Sunday in GTH, so I decided to fix it myself and lose another 10 pounds. Jerry's groin pains were getting worse. Now, Pattie is driving the truck and trailer with the 2000 on it, Jerry and his wife Betty are inside, while I'm ahead running the TR in 106 deg heat through Desert Center, 104 through Indio and 103 through Palm Desert. Hey, it's getting cooler. But, the water bottles are too hot to drink. My TR starts losing oil and the pressure starts dropping. 60, 50, 40. Crap. Stop at a rest stop outside of Palm Springs. Oil's coming out of the dip stick in volumes. What a mess. Pattie tells me to wrap a shop towel around the dip stick, jamb it in, and I obey. Added two quarts of oil and pressed on. Jerry's pain's worse and has to knell on the floorboards because he can't sit. We originally planned to drop off the 2000 at the mechanics that evening. About 25 miles north of San Diego Pattie calls me and says we have a change of plans. We're headed to Grossmont Hospital instead. Go faster. We get there. Try finding a parking spot for a truck and trailer, and a TR dumping oil. Good luck. It's now 9 PM and Jerry's granddaughter arrives, so Pattie and I leave knowing they're in good hands. I nurse my TR into our driveway as Pattie eases the truck/trailer/2000 in front of our house. 10 PM, 14 hours from when we started. Surprisingly, I felt good. I just talked to Jerry this evening and he's OK. Something was blocked. Damn that Starbucks! Betty's relieved. Jerry's car is still on the trailer. We'll take it to the mechanic tomorrow. Mine will get worked on this weekend. But, we're all home and alive, and that's what counts. The TR's are another story. Uff Da. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 06:01:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897392C0CC7 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:01:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED452C0CB3 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:01:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=wsTQxnWILl4A:10 a=bDwVZwxSAAAA:20 a=w339uGegu2SbqOuEGNIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=QiqO9DorWMwA:10 a=_m9DSFz1c2bH3pK5:21 a=fJuMdxsysrQ8FN6G:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D1/A6-11767-958DA605; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:04:42 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'D&B Lambert'" , "'Triumph list'" References: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 05:05:40 -0700 Message-ID: <0a5d01cda096$3e02ec90$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> Thread-Index: Ac2gJIJciFjYr5eLTI+pOq+z81DneAAEI/uwABcoDnA= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I went the recore route and I'm very pleased with the result. Didn't make it to TRfest this year, as I still haven't got the rear axle rebuilt yet (and I don't trust the one I'm running for long trips); but I have gone out in the desert with it several times. 110F ambient and the gauge never went higher than the '5' in '185' (which is where my fan comes on) except once when I came to a stop light after running 70+ mph for some time it crept a bit higher before the light turned green. I did have the radiator shop make several improvements: No crank hole (which they said would increase cooling by about 10% since the crank hole actually blocks off the tubes completely). Installed a modern filler neck (so I can buy caps in various pressures at FLAPS). ISTR I've got a 10 psi "Lev-R-Vent" cap on there, but maybe it's 7 psi. I don't really need the increased pressure now, but I like having the lever so haven't bothered to change it. Added reinforcement around the extension tank, and inlet fitting. I've had the joint to the extension crack several times in the past so I wanted to stop that. And after several failures of the reproduction upper hoses, I'm running the heavy duty Gates upper hose, which had me worried about cracking the upper fitting. The reinforcement was simply a length of small copper tubing, shaped and soldered to both the upper tank and the extension/fitting, but so far it seems to work well. The shop I use works on a lot of old cars and they say this technique has always worked for them. Painted black, it is nearly invisible on the car. There is a photo of the extension reinforcement at http://goo.gl/Tnj9q but I forgot to take a photo of the inlet. They also soldered on some brackets to hold the Hayden electric fan. I've kind of lost track, but ISTR the core was about $300 installed this time, plus tax and another $30 or so for the "improvements". This is the radiator (well, tanks and frame at least) that was in TS39781LO when it came to me in 1984 and might have been original to it. With the new core, and no longer any need to run stop-leak all the time, I'm confident it will be good for another 20 years at least. If I can remember to keep the coolant changed, anyway. Still the standard water pump, bypass not blocked at all and an ordinary "unsleeved" 185F thermostat. I did add a TR4 style recovery bottle when I had the apron off last, tucked in between the radiator and inner fender. That way I don't have to wonder if I'm losing coolant, the radiator stays full to the top all the time instead of the extension being only half full or less. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 07:00:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18DE2C0CC7 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:00:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAF92C0D0C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so2398882dad.14 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9wnWmz6pZ1apl+piuXwEAbnClHSUujlLJcJo3SqkjzE=; b=hONXMJF9Y2PK08C7wsK9Yyc18JVWBnZFr6QnWLl6wgjF7BaDc77oWMmLlTPKdo6daB V0s1Jtd1sx7JJmU2zueLqAoxgFYg6kM6etSiz1Y/5lCkglKOwGqdvhAp0olyUXiPt81n EQ/RI6czLkylJkZfQ2HCtCXNw8K4iy8Lzc6p8zXxW7tpIt1ZQyo//wsJPLs4a0Kc2h1g TD/6SmRuoJDNtfmN1pomfNN9i+j0b8AmO82LWJ+OmU9GQ3FBERjkamejubpNKRtGL9K0 ZsxlwY3TR8kbExWh81icgKPAfhfP1IVH1kDu7tja37L4K3kUEjGPKcM87QKhenMfzh1b E/3Q== Received: by 10.68.216.2 with SMTP id om2mr4098735pbc.88.1349182969996; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-60-95.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.60.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id te6sm885383pbc.29.2012.10.02.06.02.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506AE5F6.4090502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:02:46 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> In-Reply-To: <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/1/12 5:46 PM, D&B Lambert wrote: > All, > Just to got home from Triumphest. Had a great time. Now for the question: > For the first time in 12 years my TR3A overheated on a couple of the grades > going south out of Las Vegas. I suggest that the first thing you should do is flush the coolant passages of your engine and and either have the radiator recored or rodded. A recore without the crank hole will provide better cooling. It could well be just a sediment build up in the block water passages. It could be that your stock cooling system just has a sediment build up and will do the job after a good "scrubbing". None of those fan, water pump or radiator suggestions will help if there is sediment in the block & head water passages. I'm assuming that you have your cardboard air dam in place around the radiator. TeriAnn Who thanks the Triumphest host club for bringing Triumphest almost to my door step in Flagstaff. Had a wonderful time. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 07:02:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524252C0D0C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:02:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BF72C0CB1 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so2400086dad.14 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f/ld1CrfvgD+ZaHbWA8PqMHFvQJ2Uewg74kT0fJi/mc=; b=YrStCcDsHU+b7ODSVUXez9RSL8dbjQrNZXW2DFRBG8yQ5RoorRHCpzpzXszVHJTjRq 2H22y5hL2Y5UIYGr5AzYqUk8UUlVbeLBMYsY3wj06IgxgIDCiZgT6jA7zWzr5d4m5HU8 B8FyZzyp8zZZNUceD1hZShfDnOeL1zoVwa/e08C4/ExT0/nhQ22nHvskr2yaqm6dYvuE kIvP6YAxWEdPTTrwTD9ueKrhkWhIVKAm2MtNU9aJuVBqJkEfayoRwCcuMqVFUP7HwEEG DbFlDk2iDGTZc0H74emLlkvr/QkzqvxRkGYZnNM+cOLS1QDwXigB6Lwrl+79i8dWFbat qP+A== Received: by 10.66.78.73 with SMTP id z9mr44309759paw.9.1349183160860; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-60-95.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.60.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sj5sm888410pbc.30.2012.10.02.06.05.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506AE6B6.7000102@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 06:05:58 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rocker Arm X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/1/12 5:45 PM, marty sukey wrote: > Many years ago I had a set of TR6 rockers rebuilt. I was thinking the place > was called ROCKER ARM EXCHANGE" but I must be wrong because I cannot find > anything under that name. Any suggestions? Most any automotive machine shop can radius rocker arm ends and ream out new rocker arm bushings. I just bought new bushings and a new rocker shaft and took them over to my local automotive machine shop. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 09:18:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010CB2C0CBF for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:18:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A45D2C0CBD for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:18:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:21:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.163] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:21:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1064.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:21:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 101420.4877.bm@omp1064.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56465 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2012 15:21:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349191285; bh=Fyq7ardyy2TLkVryvsAo4CJRmvAmAVfSXPNynFCiIKw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nO0ZTKluo9XQeHeoUCbcHid4JR9A9uEHKKWVs8WEqkUqKvMKrw4o3GY540ElUFsR77dGIbgFWp8od7gK8A9oLYLzP04z5ldVu8l1X/jtXDiWhuPmCou86G7GIQ/YYr8UB9CSVHFz8h+bTMU7cHuTn5LMRHZCVkQODaSimwqfw88= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lZGE6P55ks6s3CxekGLWVVEQXPY/NTngAV2wHyRBBxmWlRZ0/LwRRo6bilTbTLMuJa/wS86p1zecLqx0hgFuai36CReY7tq3+UgOkJhyZr8qmD1T8axaSRb9+kTZgfJFw2hHp6EHryhRz+gV5yAiHji7oTl3HhCX44gbn6JdZak=; X-YMail-OSG: wAwJ4foVM1kBA0zLSAWEuqqwuDG0sVHLdR741aK28T1oo_A w.ju9MHfSgOU_RL1MR.0BUts_KvuUckFiT9cLhGXuJ.Ix7Fqs0RPIs3AgHzL JYs3STxNu9ApKXnCp.Xr_dilegVD1vfpVhaL14Mmy1T3tzTMe2HRasuB_UT6 zplQrz2SfM2Z9v2dmqt5InafGIgmNVx.VBQyul3M7ny_ezqbvqToCRsUWuZR qelJZTj7u2eqfvzVqMkcK5bRqy0AYV1jyR9OBPDfIVFOaRXOrjgzBXcCkKvj cogOAitADDbVZXwoWuWOppV4OZpq.fztVlG4DmktjGd9Mqq19jOVWXUUaG3T ROH2AUjb4gVZALqmN0t5YTGvm94LUs1HnZsqVeNudhHb34dbFqdTMrTQH5.4 KbFI.8925UL68Pfu.37raX0lbzsRE8XtPS_uqBEbYIP9UZqWx0stfUZ_ZhRg mGIuJwePrU9oFU7sNk7htb256tk51aYi1lSJni0krUQmSWIusZRXTHgcgSN2 rHKofIsQxKpkyzmHnXap0Xv5L.vf00s28e90BoX_m_bmilaAkVA-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:21:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> <0a5d01cda096$3e02ec90$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1349191285.16786.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , 'D&B Lambert' , 'Triumph list' In-Reply-To: <0a5d01cda096$3e02ec90$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis if you do decide to have the radiator worked on, you are welcome to one of my old ones. that way you can continue to enjoy driving the TR while the radiator guy misses yet another promised finish date. Frank From: Randall To: 'D&B Lambert' ; 'Triumph list' Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating FWIW, I went the recore route and I'm very pleased with the result. Didn't make it to TRfest this year, as I still haven't got the rear axle rebuilt yet (and I don't trust the one I'm running for long trips); but I have gone out in the desert with it several times. 110F ambient and the gauge never went higher than the '5' in '185' (which is where my fan comes on) except once when I came to a stop light after running 70+ mph for some time it crept a bit higher before the light turned green. I did have the radiator shop make several improvements: No crank hole (which they said would increase cooling by about 10% since the crank hole actually blocks off the tubes completely). Installed a modern filler neck (so I can buy caps in various pressures at FLAPS). ISTR I've got a 10 psi "Lev-R-Vent" cap on there, but maybe it's 7 psi. I don't really need the increased pressure now, but I like having the lever so haven't bothered to change it. Added reinforcement around the extension tank, and inlet fitting. I've had the joint to the extension crack several times in the past so I wanted to stop that. And after several failures of the reproduction upper hoses, I'm running the heavy duty Gates upper hose, which had me worried about cracking the upper fitting. The reinforcement was simply a length of small copper tubing, shaped and soldered to both the upper tank and the extension/fitting, but so far it seems to work well. The shop I use works on a lot of old cars and they say this technique has always worked for them. Painted black, it is nearly invisible on the car. There is a photo of the extension reinforcement at http://goo.gl/Tnj9q but I forgot to take a photo of the inlet. They also soldered on some brackets to hold the Hayden electric fan. I've kind of lost track, but ISTR the core was about $300 installed this time, plus tax and another $30 or so for the "improvements". This is the radiator (well, tanks and frame at least) that was in TS39781LO when it came to me in 1984 and might have been original to it. With the new core, and no longer any need to run stop-leak all the time, I'm confident it will be good for another 20 years at least. If I can remember to keep the coolant changed, anyway. Still the standard water pump, bypass not blocked at all and an ordinary "unsleeved" 185F thermostat. I did add a TR4 style recovery bottle when I had the apron off last, tucked in between the radiator and inner fender. That way I don't have to wonder if I'm losing coolant, the radiator stays full to the top all the time instead of the extension being only half full or less. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 09:49:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDD22C0CFE for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:49:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2547F2C0CC4 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:52:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:52:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2012 15:52:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 555353.33199.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60431 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2012 15:52:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349193160; bh=r4iEfxbWqIn/AWxGI1oENbyKt1ECHVlr2GaMICUaPb8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V5mCGNw3voIm/zE6kIyK4IICI4TqHppdhGS9hWVfrIA5CIpZ2ryVAQ/XIojkeeD+qjVaNbwPEo8aI1bxBtH0fQ0epja3qL08r+hSDYbv1cA0NFJIBC+8sKOVJIYkVkiMIV//5YZxcbwpj8Jy8Yu9bEA5pdnfO2rfpMEnMbRWmvM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bWErU2gKF8QZx17swQoXnx2s7moSAd3lUzCe4QJRJ+AgK5AWFlKPFMajnloUmE0+gYU+3s4+OXi5uxIA9X6Wsyf2MtuD2TdskQ8UzlQcXMOybG8erThbURxjx1lXVrbezFByOTCZoytsCHUbBOkVUCivoQItO9SbVYMohFb+zNo=; X-YMail-OSG: 6O.YqfcVM1luwQe0BM2q8faaDheUmalEjzdPiVgLJpvWBwt 9O73LcYPrHE2praioIsEROjARmrFnOHfKuOCfSmUNX607pCueOO.G4VuG9Y4 NHzA8GN5pKJ.PTB6W9KanSznJJf7siA_r8Eq3TdwCuem1xv8675AmPPRagdK _ua0LNH3.rN5Zq_OW3y151JpZj0Lopnl5WTyZ5KWLjWubY2M4zKBpyNosefa 8h0.SLDoIQLPuHf9Tjqi88Zt72L28Qhr4NupFnpnY7OhtZeEp8C2hC3fXTgB u7aEXVC8bsvx.9LJQu_RbJSk3oDSfQLQVVVcz8iM_cYf6YU5kRLVleMoL2kP 3lp7bgrGseZ5e21Xn3TlP1yNgjBO.WBQL39UUwy_S90wCvmrOzNz8ZUNGgk4 cOzdwxMeg1pY4T.M3I9gT25KVcB4STHCUOWGa_iqW7sB_TjHeskKAiD3FdWl .fBUUa0CrTba5vXIVkSiW.ljY6JSgmibverHYRaRb1ojswXMjGmRVMfIEkfZ xCBwz_E_nU1z06le2KqI6eVhirmOt1VIFXK53UCg0H1e8QuM3YuWDeRZ4Q14 B39jPiovr7JFlOtoXt7j3Bl8SND7kVFYFVUu9ZDd5Mn1CMr6dUQXamCrhXfJ yCPSm0AT4zYQC7pbiPTMAO6q2YiG9Jvwm6rYcErX2hQdHKPLeQk1fmJ.JTVi QbqiSF_uisV7LoxATBa_jke1zyv8qc20hDMCBgBdZA0wM2xwDTZzMTCV.JN2 Me09iR.DfbFr1nKqJwLKqK0qvpzbaRvUktE7kN9ju7.PJi8FXVJJVg6F8MG6 EbWYm2qKjW2LI_rjSC4PgNAlvSzqiMvW0sGCxQ.EIhjP_kHkw23sXGPcukMG AIXM2h7Lfo1uBBEBDZKZMGLAxIdqk_LUDHA_i8DpK1A4yxnSJ8F_fhDRCKRE vsxU36_P03sSEitEvYaRJSg-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 08:52:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: Message-ID: <1349193160.58203.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: aribert neumann , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Nippondenso mini alternator (coffee can, racing, etc alt) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some of our Triumph brethren on the other side of the pond are splitting the calipers to put spacers between in order to run vented rotors. what a neat idea. do you happen to know what the source of the rotors are? Toyota again? i have never had a problem splitting the rotors. it aint rocket science. and i like the idea of vented rotors. Frank From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: [TR] Nippondenso mini alternator (coffee can, racing, etc alt) Following up on the thread below - the Suzuki Swift alternator. A number of racing catalogs list a small light weight alt for big $$. I bought an e-bay one (didn't know it was Chinese until I received it). Earlier this Summer I happened upon the Sideways Forums ( http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php/forum/1-technical-discuss ion-boards/ ),found the Small Triumph archived folder and started reading the posts and found several articles referring to the mini Denso alt and recognised the alt as looking like the one I bought off e-Bay. I suspect that this is the small Nippondenso alternator. >From my reading, the smallest of the alt came with Japanese mini cars at about 40 amp. Same alt, but only 25 amp, found on Kubota tractors. Some links: http://crazyspitfire.blogspot.com/2006/05/22-kilo-saving-alternator-joys.html http://westfield-world.com/daihatsu_alternator.html (has wiring diagram) I was at a pick & pull type of salvage yard and found an 85 Honda Civic with what I thought was the mini alt. Once I had it removed, it was the same pattern but a size bigger. BTW, every so often the discussion comes up about dismantling frt brake calipers (and how the caliper bolts are sacred - don't undo them). Some of our Triumph brethren on the other side of the pond are splitting the calipers to put spacers between in order to run vented rotors. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Randall" To: , Cc: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:31:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [TR] 10Si alternator application Thanks, Jerry, I'll pass that along. > There is a small > Alternator that puts out around 40 amps, does anyone know > that application? Chris "Mad" Marx told me that his came from an 89 Suzuki Swift. Unfortunately my FLAPS didn't have that one in stock, and I don't know the application for the unit they sold me. It is not a single wire design, there are 3 control tabs as well as the main output. I haven't researched yet what they are, but I'm guessing that one is for the dash light, one is battery sense (which you could just wire to the output if you want, I will wire it to the starter solenoid), and the third needs to get power from the ignition circuit. That seems to be what most of the Japanese alternators use. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 10:46:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30792C0CB6 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:46:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EE52C0C80 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so897720wib.2 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:48:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3Un2PNL4sZwy7OYJ30DAGJ7SOZ42iyWWU5jACuFEQ40=; b=jtjL9y2+ruGI72bWMcycBpOLaAO0BLK+UrJFsuBLp0f+31gVDDpS3yq5X9YMcIsi8w pOnD42imJKi24MfUslBufsHenvRe16NNUqXHVyIH2zU2DWzUKFzzMKLrmlM8QYNBITm1 a233Y1KdmeoetDhpGJ9VYqtxPFBtNXVplybCJ3TNlXRUzB1+YVLaOnSWAz41cddvIxbq ljwC1JuXO3b7nCN8mqL1PGxjZLYRrViRTUUsHMtEEanUlMu4jNPe9hMBE4y5J8eEH0C5 +4VBtEuBI2WiOZTJrSuz9sraooMXZskiSPD/AjAEfkdYBZVQEheozKUEKy31mCZTOBIP qxPw== Received: by 10.217.2.146 with SMTP id p18mr10608542wes.224.1349196498322; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:48:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 09:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] who is going to waynesboro va this weekend for the car show? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Shenandoah Valley British Car Club has a great show. I used to attend every year when I lived closer. We are venturing out on a 4 hour trip in the TR2 on Friday to go again. Between now and then I should install a new top, get the hood latch adjusted, and put the apron back on. I had it out on a run to the store on Sunday and it started right up and ran great. Anyone on the list going too? Beautiful roads and the shenandoah parkway is nearby as well. http://svbcc.net/CarShow2012/carshowintro12.html Chris 1954 TR2 1963 TR4 1969 TR6 1973 TR6 (on my last nerve!) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 17:25:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A582D04F8 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:25:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9412D03F7 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so20055311ied.14 for ; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=H+b+qP44yY+ND8yLmVcjeS224SZeffRZcceK9wk1Rfo=; b=FFKjHdKYjRZOUuwJTadrSYHQtq0LN+jjX0wHxpwPEZXm1vINBYzO4UkrNKBpqwj0JJ 7sTmhIL0U0jA8ZBcFKVVC/mmuA88QMPq6OC4O8qA+Zcwv+vxjbmlepvfa0dD6uiljbXi QdGq/BT5aL20+/Bzk1CShYAg+T68k11HwTPLHKWfurofOPcoaDCkc88RESypFVBEaGXe zNVWXwqsjPyUkDZyJQXBtwFLwCci/zvSPl9YMtuNTtX8rIoVCnquI01ii9goPIJ+l/6f PDBl+MiJ5WW9ByqB+l1OSQiSBJ5OH0zMWHdPHXlXj/lBDNzk9i3IqxCxvAl9qwH+ixHj ZQzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.158.201 with SMTP id ww9mr10660197igb.22.1349220355191; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> References: <20121001223110.N0HWC.107338.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <3E706126DE914397A3B43CD2EEBBBBCB@Lambert1> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:25:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "D&B Lambert" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumph list Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Overheating X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:46 PM, D&B Lambert wrote: > ... I'm looking for "been there, done that" stories. I need some help > making up my mind which way to go. > I went with a new core with crank hole for my TR3A radiator. The old one was fine but looked awful beat-up (even had a swollen bottom tank from a long-ago freeze). Replacing the core cost about as much as the 'new' alternatives but I like to keep it as original when I can. Stays cool even in 100 degree climbs & drives (stock H2O pump, tropical fan). Sorry to miss Triumphest -- just got home from the Santa Fe Concorso, another fine event. Seems this year everyone picked the same weekend for their car gatherings as I had four events in AZ & NM I had to choose from. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 2 22:47:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CFB2D05CF for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:47:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB842D095C for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121003033926.LYBG24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 23:39:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 6TfR1k00V1bBNls05TfSDU; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:39:26 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=pWCpoY9uAAAA:8 a=bs5e5ZQA3rZcKoE_4qUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <506BB372.1050806@charter.net> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:39:30 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Wbeech References: <5068B413.80308@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <5068B413.80308@charter.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121003-0, 10/02/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch shaft questions X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/30/2012 5:05 PM, I wrote: > Some time back, I read (in several places) about using a TR4 clutch > shaft in a TR6 to gain the advantage of greasable bushings. Sounded > like a good idea... After that post, I received an almost instant reply from a fellow named Bill, who suggested a bolt to attach the pushrod to the side of the lever. It sounded crazy in it's simplicity...so crazy, it just might work! Here's a page with a simple illustration of the problem, and the solution. So far, it looks like it's going to work just fine. http://fishplate.org/vehicles/triumph/tips/clutch_lever/ Thanks, Bill! Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 11:05:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD592D048C for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:05:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08082D0385 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6dwX1k0020cQ2SLACfq0jt; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:50:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6fpy1k00f4L5TyG8WfpzkY; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:50:00 +0000 Message-Id: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:49:59 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The OD on my TR6 stopped working so I did the trouble shooting process in Dan Master's electrical manual and found I have voltage all through the circuit all the way to the bullet that connects the (yellow with purple stripe) wire to the solenoid. The voltage can be switched on and off with the OD selector switch on the column so everything works up to the point where it connects to the solenoid. But the solenoid doesn't engage. So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the solenoid will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have. Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the circuit? I even swapped out another solenoid from another A type OD and that one does exactly the same thing. Works with a direct hookup to a battery but not with the circuit. I checked to see if the solenoid is grounded and it has continuity according to my meter. With the solenoid hooked to the system when I engage the OD switch the voltage goes as far as the bullet but doesn't register at the solenoid. It's as if the solenoid "clogs" the flow of the voltage. What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage measured at 12.75)? I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the other? Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 12:35:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02D82D0363 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:35:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07422C0548 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:34:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan14.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.14] helo=mailscan14.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TJSsi-00028j-US for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:37:12 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan14.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TJSsh-0004m2-VD; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:37:12 -0400 Received: from authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.5]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 6hdB1k00E06ZpSa01hdB9n; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:37:11 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=71YCmB65V-QA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=CwqvJdhn89YA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=IvP3ULd0s5GTLUCVlBUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9O1N9SI/4ZbXZMy1Cl+5fA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: 6hdB1k00E06ZpSa01hdB9n Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TJSsh-0001VZ-C9; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:37:11 -0400 Message-ID: <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "Bud Rolofson" , References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:37:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, can you measure the voltage at the solenoid connection with the solenoid in the circuit? It is possible to measure the correct voltage at the disconnected wire because the meter does not load the circuit down. If, with the solenoid in the circuit, you do not see the correct voltage, then there is a high resistance connection somewhere to the solenoid. Greg G. Osseo,MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? > The OD on my TR6 stopped working so I did the trouble shooting process > in Dan Master's electrical manual and found I have voltage all through > the circuit all the way to the bullet that connects the (yellow with > purple stripe) wire to the solenoid. The voltage can be switched on > and off with the OD selector switch on the column so everything works > up to the point where it connects to the solenoid. But the solenoid > doesn't engage. > > So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the solenoid > will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have. > Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the > circuit? I even swapped out another solenoid from another A type OD > and that one does exactly the same thing. Works with a direct hookup > to a battery but not with the circuit. I checked to see if the > solenoid is grounded and it has continuity according to my meter. > > With the solenoid hooked to the system when I engage the OD switch the > voltage goes as far as the bullet but doesn't register at the > solenoid. It's as if the solenoid "clogs" the flow of the voltage. > > What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery > (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage measured > at 12.75)? > > I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the > other? > > Thanks > Bud Rolofson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 13:55:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4FC2D06D4 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:55:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A1B2C0CA0 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6dsA1k0040b6N64A3iKBie; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:19:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6iK91k00m4L5TyG8PiKAe4; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:19:11 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Greg Gelhar In-Reply-To: <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:19:10 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I did check the voltage at the yellow purple wire directly on the solenoid (you have to remove the plastic cap to get to that wire) and that's when it "clogs up". The voltage reads in the hundredths of voltages instead of 12.75. I guess I could have two bad solenoids but the fact that they work with a direct hookup to a battery that has less voltage than the one in the car is a puzzle. I'm thinking there is a grounding issue. I guess the grounding could be affected over time by corrosion or dirt but I can't seem to find where that problem is if it's that. Thanks Bud 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > Bud, can you measure the voltage at the solenoid connection with the > solenoid in the circuit? It is possible to measure the correct > voltage at the disconnected wire because the meter does not load the > circuit down. If, with the solenoid in the circuit, you do not see > the correct voltage, then there is a high resistance connection > somewhere to the solenoid. > > > Greg G. > Osseo,MN > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:49 AM > Subject: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? > > >> The OD on my TR6 stopped working so I did the trouble shooting >> process >> in Dan Master's electrical manual and found I have voltage all >> through >> the circuit all the way to the bullet that connects the (yellow with >> purple stripe) wire to the solenoid. The voltage can be switched on >> and off with the OD selector switch on the column so everything works >> up to the point where it connects to the solenoid. But the solenoid >> doesn't engage. >> >> So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the >> solenoid >> will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have. >> Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the >> circuit? I even swapped out another solenoid from another A type OD >> and that one does exactly the same thing. Works with a direct hookup >> to a battery but not with the circuit. I checked to see if the >> solenoid is grounded and it has continuity according to my meter. >> >> With the solenoid hooked to the system when I engage the OD switch >> the >> voltage goes as far as the bullet but doesn't register at the >> solenoid. It's as if the solenoid "clogs" the flow of the voltage. >> >> What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery >> (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage >> measured >> at 12.75)? >> >> I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the >> other? >> >> Thanks >> Bud Rolofson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 14:47:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAA62D07CA for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:47:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E062D036C for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:06:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so22644118ied.14 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tAUNFBflhGcFtZNmEsbwQhWKdfXKr6APDEqbifEFYzI=; b=ux1uZrOtqYuslLcwt6REwpTfrlStUTV1ppDGFpZlOnOEV1n22plNIMrPdYd4sjFHFg gVar3k1MXP0tTMpVwChHblqgjtwwAXdQcY5NiOodH59vGJCD6V4jA9BvaT02fDl2pNnB bFqKKr3F2eULwQ/sOpRnadUOvwlZFsbx/LMjP1ZFAD0xR6SN2fhwcHoeuzvxSwHFmVLT 6IAXaSDIEVysxBVpjt3+Pp/tNv7Qqt7kJQ+eDDGRSBEEIiw8+hAsQvvkpfQCh0bXG8cC dgEpZ9GOAHsrZ2762r6UEQBJHIe8vqBJWPw7EfMViqTEMWT2EWWlSQEfHaZG9gSSbpba 8XuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.69 with SMTP id zu5mr2976724igb.23.1349291352120; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:09:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Bud Rolofson X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I assume you have the gearbox in a gear that permits solenoid operation (3rd or 4th)? Geo On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery > (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage measured > at 12.75)? > > I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the > other? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 14:49:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B49E2C0A51 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:49:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171DB2D04F9 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6cTc1k0030S2fkCA3jEbZM; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:14:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 6jEZ1k00Y4L5TyG8VjEa6Z; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:14:35 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:14:33 -0600 References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, ignition on, shifter in 4th gear, OD selector switch on. Thanks Bud 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > I assume you have the gearbox in a gear that permits solenoid > operation (3rd or 4th)? > > Geo > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: > What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery > (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage measured > at 12.75)? > > I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the > other? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 15:47:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0932D05C3 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:47:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F072D063B for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([unknown] [96.238.190.118]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBC00F3A4DADR80@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:46:41 -0500 (CDT) MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Dean Tetterton In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:46:22 -0400 Message-id: <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> To: Bud Rolofson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are points on the top of the solenoid. They should be closed to pull in and open when the plunger is all the way up. Are the points clean? and are they working. There are two windings in the solenoid, one strong to pull it in and a weaker one to hold it in. Dean On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > I did check the voltage at the yellow purple wire directly on the > solenoid (you have to remove the plastic cap to get to that wire) and > that's when it "clogs up". The voltage reads in the hundredths of > voltages instead of 12.75. I guess I could have two bad solenoids but > the fact that they work with a direct hookup to a battery that has > less voltage than the one in the car is a puzzle. I'm thinking there > is a grounding issue. I guess the grounding could be affected over > time by corrosion or dirt but I can't seem to find where that problem > is if it's that. > > Thanks > Bud > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > >> Bud, can you measure the voltage at the solenoid connection with the >> solenoid in the circuit? It is possible to measure the correct >> voltage at the disconnected wire because the meter does not load the >> circuit down. If, with the solenoid in the circuit, you do not see >> the correct voltage, then there is a high resistance connection >> somewhere to the solenoid. >> >> >> Greg G. >> Osseo,MN >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Rolofson" >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:49 AM >> Subject: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? >> >> >>> The OD on my TR6 stopped working so I did the trouble shooting >>> process >>> in Dan Master's electrical manual and found I have voltage all >>> through >>> the circuit all the way to the bullet that connects the (yellow with >>> purple stripe) wire to the solenoid. The voltage can be switched on >>> and off with the OD selector switch on the column so everything works >>> up to the point where it connects to the solenoid. But the solenoid >>> doesn't engage. >>> >>> So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the >>> solenoid >>> will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have. >>> Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the >>> circuit? I even swapped out another solenoid from another A type OD >>> and that one does exactly the same thing. Works with a direct hookup >>> to a battery but not with the circuit. I checked to see if the >>> solenoid is grounded and it has continuity according to my meter. >>> >>> With the solenoid hooked to the system when I engage the OD switch >>> the >>> voltage goes as far as the bullet but doesn't register at the >>> solenoid. It's as if the solenoid "clogs" the flow of the voltage. >>> >>> What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery >>> (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage >>> measured >>> at 12.75)? >>> >>> I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the >>> other? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Bud Rolofson > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 16:40:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A87E2D0221 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:24:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CFC2D04CA for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q93LHwkh029380 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:18:00 -0400 Received: from core-mod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 63EDBE000090 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:18:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <13bd.a08afd3.3d9e0587@cs.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:18:00 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349299080; bh=e7Co8SCU7Z1OAcUtVe7u9z9w95EsZNtl+GUIYqUEldk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AA4x1IXYWdsgntCCv6lft1oFlhYdLcoWyHW7GT+vk8XTWlSa4p4LIzJSI68/cDMv/ eg5pOr0s707F42U4d4+hYbwd/d8ZAFxE/GyXQSShXoTt+pWTacy4gL4ksStRQ9aAYc pZ9b0mB+7sun/PC/L7snYaiQtFL+j0meeGsqINUA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:435989632:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b506cab886894 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The solenoids are fine. The problem is in the wiring. It may be a bad relay but probably not. Unplug all the connections between the battery and the solenoid and replug them (do this one at a time to avoid confusion). This will clean off any corrosion that may be inhibiting current flow. Also, if you have a fuse in the circuit make sure that is good and the fuse holder, too. Dave In a message dated 10/3/2012 3:00:01 PM Central Daylight Time, levilevi@comcast.net writes: > I did check the voltage at the yellow purple wire directly on the > solenoid (you have to remove the plastic cap to get to that wire) and > that's when it "clogs up". The voltage reads in the hundredths of > voltages instead of 12.75. I guess I could have two bad solenoids but > the fact that they work with a direct hookup to a battery that has > less voltage than the one in the car is a puzzle. I'm thinking there > is a grounding issue. I guess the grounding could be affected over > time by corrosion or dirt but I can't seem to find where that problem > is if it's that. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 16:44:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D9B2D0646 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 16:44:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 367F62D063B for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2012 21:26:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.239] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2012 21:26:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Oct 2012 21:26:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 591908.82349.bm@omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 30936 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Oct 2012 21:26:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349299616; bh=gtAR46Gy2g93Ey8yaUtxI6CCZnrlMOreP38Ms5cUzkI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fw1U3eHvRnyrz70h7+CLWf4MnK6mt4mmLC/D3486vJATE5ilcq9+hrOVuO8BhKQOz1cmGGDRtxYEpHtGa80g5dqMLddzXBi7Xfl3GUjkzZcWRXAQurHd3D064nbFcpcJxhtpiUMrdgT+rJA487IR6G4Nx5+MxHiaGaBF1w33iug= X-YMail-OSG: qKPU.woVM1n6V2uo29cjrlGcvAFlJzx2n7JvfJdMsWWjYl5 w_adyk3M0grNtW9StuARyHB6dbSPTGGOhuIXnE.hbBxw8H9xq7lqWPd3htrW 76B.mkijBAF0yGH7Ai_x0o_DGYvOInObdTrgs.5.OEitz3Wz0wfQPc7MLdDx LTJjOfkoGWzQ8hL.ZqnlIkBN02fKtUnhpod5Kv6.CEhPfNvgzzr7yA.ZCE36 Bliq4Foyu6trc7thC0L5eZ3YnXcNUBDeEKDcLM4gm0G2I0neCnxocGA9eryz eTJjGJ1cywc6KriNmcpnBqkGrXlEp2Li0UW4Ljjox79yT1gIdjPKFeR0oxuL kCFZJazBpSmaXgeJNeKWTZ7T272cR9cOGBTyKaoAEOtb8kTovbchMwXmqZSG la0_48kReY3SIBoqN_exWaBqy9I_2h4nAxubLgQoDjR6_ohZBS2p.r7.JgGu 7p_YLHmCgfP4v6_.UXMwZGycz2AvQ2y8VGT_wXgx5Ta73u4xsOJzq.NZ4CYg a0ToddMnyNyL4PcDk.7c0hOvCbMdAJTExRyrSj2x9gop2ZxPorZ8- Received: from [170.35.224.64] by web121003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:26:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1349299616.29446.YahooMailNeo@web121003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:26:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "tr3abobm77@frontier.com" To: Bud Rolofson , Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "tr3abobm77@frontier.com" List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If wired normally, the gearbox switches only operate a relay which in turn operates the solenoid. Do you hear the relay operate when you turn the switch on and off? You could also try 2nd gear. Bob Maassel 59 TR3A To: Geo Hahn Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? Yes, ignition on, shifter in 4th gear, OD selector switch on. Thanks Bud 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 3, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > I assume you have the gearbox in a gear that permits solenoid > operation (3rd or 4th)? > > Geo > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Bud Rolofson > wrote: > What could be causing the solenoids to work with a direct battery > (voltage measured at 12.11) but not with the circuit (voltage measured > at 12.75)? > > I'm stumped. How can both solenoids work in one situation and not the > other? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3abobm77@frontier.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 18:46:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32692D01B8 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:46:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9E2D0851 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [71.180.231.250]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBC00GOTCQ0T1F0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:46:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "Peter Ryner" To: References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:46:40 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. TIA Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 20:31:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739F02C0C0C for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:31:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D292D068C for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 19:32:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=WKj9rwQR c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=ItfgHYn-QvoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=AlE57uxYKvAA:10 a=_trDVaLHuyt3xIbsywgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50841] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C5/B5-08946-2E7EC605; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:35:31 +0000 Message-ID: <2AE44CFC5C65464181A9AC4E36D265B6@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Peter Ryner" , References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net><8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph><6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:35:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You will get all sorts of opinions on this, I personally think a single stage looks more original, and that a base coat clear coat looks a little too shiny wet. It is certainly more of an eye catcher on the show circuit. I know most of the modern shops swear by it, I am just a very amateur painter/restorer, but I also look at the basecoat/clearcoat as more steps/more opportunities for something to go wrong in the paint process. But it is very much a personal choice/preferance. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 3 21:21:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024EF2D09E5 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:21:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 611302D07F0 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 20:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 02:08:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 02:08:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 02:08:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 234793.96141.bm@omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 96195 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2012 02:08:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=qFafs2LPk0rE5sHbaWXPEMLCaUJjcgyTtk7Zpmg8mG9JIBtKJP0VQrKwKf1CDNNN0m+Cpn70FHAadyTbs9cRLv2pjeqUJWPJjYeI+TdDVwr+Q+32POqsEjaibjpMSu8Kc/kpZi2DKPPxQdb+jDWcln/CD8BNUT63YG1ynkTANH0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1349316492; bh=RmdKoyw/CBLO1Z2SGAWyfvVYcFEw/G4G+l+0AvHyFJI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=nLrqPx/dw7OtktTSZizvVRwy7xnv0FVtJXnmmg1waUBmihYwaUD+E1EWM3sRlqcWpUUo3lvkMw5jiYDeY+vHYlTs3gTx5lm6OQwd+OSqgtI/W1LnodSWO3D456NpBOsLmVDRF4q058my27D0hwBDGIQHZfsqB63+uv0bg72op5U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: raAA5B4VM1mKXkyueNJ_ojN2mMQv8j4tTZ954IQzzyEU2iD yLnF5SzTZlnpq99qZA3kWCOa4ms4bylVIeQEkV6r_B5OCiTB43nuq.fPWwPo s_0wcuM6BPcIoQcJCveARHVhBFUDBCn.thKe9o4S0Qbrp06zlkCA7zH8kSwn DwkkR97DS4JdasbO3aBOUWyrr.J2v_ztkLc.a8LBiYkLjJ44Qh96Sk3Zfpj4 xMYNA2lbL7k5bgg1YoJkl5OYDSI.78p7AXIxT7Ujk65Il2jz44VwOCmXCrF8 7yAik1a.HUtOT5j51Ua5hXCmOoN4RGcd4amMolVWFFbUp0WE.7cnQmx_HIO_ ksOsWs_gLH4.qMJusNv.wsMwSsul0y_KRCyOvMCbpj5zJQK2VE6F2HAsqIFD 6RJ9FqGpyePbZZN3TtKDcxvOgeriKr8JrRC6eBXF2GLBbOQygvnjQ3kXGazu zyVcXOpEr6MRYPvke8llIsVSx.M6P09WMaUVrzCSpvyDEoy38lpGltIxyY1U mNv7Hdesl_rZNHybTjU7eYj4V_nVBAs9ZDn4- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [192.168.1.108] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Oct 2012 19:08:12 -0700 PDT References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <8FEB2095-1E9A-4526-81A1-5A599623DFFA@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) From: Wbeech Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 21:08:07 -0500 To: Peter Ryner Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have BC-CC on my black TR3, four years old, looks great. It is shinier than the original paint but holds up nicely and is easy to shine up for a parade or show. Bill Sent from mobile Bill On Oct 3, 2012, at 6:46 PM, "Peter Ryner" wrote: All, My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. 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Passwords for triumphs-archive@autox.team.net: List Password // URL ---- -------- triumphs@autox.team.net koetvawa http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive%40autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 10:38:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C82D2D0A0A for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:38:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 238DC2D0815 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 07:10:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.114] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 770447.23253.bm@omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13481 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2012 13:13:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349356417; bh=d6qDcziNzTGeujmNyggeki9z7rSOHU5khD6bQU8K10U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=spQy9puhca35KM5PcX0yaP1LpcZ4zh/IzUW1dw5ULCJGIafm5yQEXnQapwTajP0SdnRmDEUfold95Fsvole3IzfEkTBC2t0wP+Tcv6oE5dePGriCyomu0AlDyQSlT9LqZcnkxsPeP41kvIJ7PWzw0ADDF3jQCGg3/1/FGhZiuNA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rMVyFX4mPGDgkK2UTPoxF5aSbteLi8Dp8rD4L9Nl+UDAWVfnvY3977qZMxFXVjAILhanXb4RcISwcpH5NkNgwQ7FOnlLg2uKtFy6Auc2tPHT5c0Tzjd6BLX7kCSbNpbg3YEWGapTsC7x+vxbpRPCUgQptQk86b2TPjkgFin5y6c=; X-YMail-OSG: .LyV1SAVM1kmjCQ_fJX_SNxJ4InLsrqUVBH6R8eS_FioUo_ 9qyCNUeT7PLM0NIUQFlnvciZMp5NnfiTWP2aciMMSUMtgJLuxUqcLlUu5Qzl 4xC_lAeiXcDQy3hQKfAEUIfSaSxo5B8qRM8O0Ca9le1GaeWwykjJUIUwM4h5 uxf.HKQ95i2f5gXuFNzrnMiMKFbd4cYYzddwCh0E.ElnVuWaM3XUAcoso6mT TnV54ResLBK7WPOnQwRWSde0lqt86RfOryx_EdfDm682olNMNfrySnJMF90G hPTyUNEvE0uMQvZ5M3zK78i7dF9BBlhUn14TdPQKdejqFzPBP7Rh780a7TdQ hyzwxQOGjkn.GWUZ.M83p6Q2NuFEPDo1fVYYBM6a4unRwbK7Notq9yq5qpbl fMsXQhXn7BEfkzTsc2iv6CoxVmcYQq00xhTYMi6HHOlUJ_cnnEq1VNEYhN2t ZA4qlGBpQTxmCbNfPHNK5KnXPnkfoE5O2LYyPD1q3AawcR3Zg2odqXYrKoTR XVTsHtw8W2Otf0HRA_7H9wQR.1mc5s92XubOBYsQO1X_TI9vunprRtt6gfp1 vz9qkU2huOA-- Received: from [68.249.96.20] by web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:13:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1349356417.8944.YahooMailNeo@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 06:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: John Young To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Young List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think that such a shiny finish is quite out of place on a car that old. A good polyurathane would look much better In my eyes. Just my personal opinion. John Young NASS# 528 Indiana '78 Spitfire '66 Spitfire ________________________________ From: Peter Ryner To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: [TR] Feelings about paint types All, My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. TIA Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jeyoung_2@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 11:55:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2BF2D0A3E for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:55:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5C72D0A65 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 10:19:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so1854143ied.14 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:22:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=s9pOxJQKkAD1YASxsDnhCSVTWF54JZjWzo89/bVvnMs=; b=KvzRe+o00+CRkaFBhuQ/HTOkybfsCEiXyWYZdpBCdMmu8JLvJWgNlzKV1mvhRnwJ8n TvsBdmlVPCSdRAi1O1quH4JV/S/fVm+6/btAUqaCgVXT7ca3ki6GnwBlorAI+tqRs0OB JSfTkizb61K9uBceGTHBWoRLQmuebfnUMqmyfIAKX/yqJkeHqf78WcC/RMf4qN0ieMWw PFeC1jUMCm3izp3lJ2nxeVI9tQDKjOyt9Skc3a5rFdO6TIm2ni0EicdPre01XKr1G3Iy wTPNnULBmOadZl9UC7811H2N4E3eCKlaHzYdoMAOAY4pBLVRi9ZJgHTk6SSSsJiUrN5u +nYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.201 with SMTP id f9mr5771049ign.44.1349367720934; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:22:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:22:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I suspect the shops like base/clear coat because it is less labor for them to get a great result. I have the clear coat on my TR3A and it did indeed look very shiny when done (12 years ago) but I think it shows it age more that a traditional paint. I drive a lot and don't care about car shows (but like the car to look nice) and find the assorted nicks & scuffs are harder to deal with in the clear coat -- also getting some cracks around the holes for badges, hinges, etc. By way of contrast, my TR4 has it's original paint and nicks & scratches are easy to fix. Probably depends on how you plan to use the car, what your objectives are and how long you intend to keep it. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 17:26:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156E62D0705 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:26:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E456D2D0AAB for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22994 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2012 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.18.171) by smtpauth23.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.47) with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2012 21:35:45 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cda278$3ab1d2c0$b0157840$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2ieBvLjr6d5xakTrOq9eF3fftuFA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Fort Wayne, Indiana X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If there is anyone on either list who lives in Fort Wayne or knows the city particularly well, can they contact me off-list? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 18:34:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0147D2D026E for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:34:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BACBC2D0A72 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 22:47:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.9] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 22:47:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Oct 2012 22:47:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 542805.37134.bm@omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 88264 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2012 22:47:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349390845; bh=7ZqpVfgClINEkygFzaj50Z3YYlYrCBoxFFpCjjzFNO8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RlJmi1wA4J/Wbb/W38G1c1VYpmyJIQD5ptLrl6J9/QWhAT1TF14dwjluEDCgiVHzTpUdh5e9nugoCsl8MWIkuD4q06hPG1BNUM0xSOmOzfg/A2ik1jjbAOY2+Q5D6WvU59xiGaqA8SniLfegbCwwP6qavjMFDvyl2B87OZGMu8U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TEg5hfWi8wv7UDXX3AI/GOh5KBE1LYJrcgXYd6JJlhDGY9peZTHzYE7qFZZboU+egayIi23gydcwQwSTVzqlztKR72W6GZVbAU+Ma9GOsMWlEjQa7MqVg3hBCpQC01epZsNvjq6hFbd4Z9S/3s+F2ufJGgRjHZo9cY4L+cuNxk4=; X-YMail-OSG: h6oiHEgVM1nNgkdOJvhqObY1EmoSTKSicT_WXbTr9xPk16X ZsdYE8qbbrzKBNEcZRaKP6p2uf8Uavw91AvMWGPQ64pUWnU.kZ5FuRiVkfBi mE5c3H3nnZZKJhDpzqxUWm9u7FH3z0BAlmMOCqcZLrbahXSb9c4gfbi19oxq gMq1F1mS8jI.paRaEee3Sfrct2IDqXkyQhrErWxYo7RiiKgrYFDL2PE0l_HE bgxpCxz7NGGLG_k5Zrq8y4JqKA3d8kFqgANu6Z3PgyaZn5rHHhjOB4dNRpes YpdAf64ZVnO5D7N4x37ahMlCNd1BmChwUr9Gff3dV5TNMg1.IJlyjmp9HHMI oToc7Txw7N8RMUGElJx4P3bohLtDZXO4kV2BhmPCZbdtqgRImalmFSPZCSEm bm3TdxBeIBTrD3IpHqh.tWdUCihm58QPxq_ydHChDD3qWXvOUWA-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:47:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 Message-ID: <1349390845.88090.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:47:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] tr3 tr4 handbrake X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net was the TR4 handbrake the same as the TR3? IE chrome tube fly off? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 18:39:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524FF2D06A3 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:39:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFDF2D0A59 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:03:44 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Ce+KFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=ItfgHYn-QvoA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=AlE57uxYKvAA:10 a=Su57QC-mIyBgPw_meu8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50152] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 1A/79-21613-8861E605; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 19:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> From: "Dave Connitt" To: "Peter Ryner" , References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net><8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph><6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:13:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Peter, I recently finished up painting my TR4A IRS using RM Diamont base coat and Limco LC1000 clear coat. I couldn't be happier with the results. I am not looking for a "authentic" finish so shiny is good. The clear coat allows you to color sand and buff the final paint to be mirror smooth. If your into that, Base/Clear is the way to go. The single stage paints are more for the guy looking for a original finish tends to be not as smooth. I agree with one of the other guys who said most painters will push to go Base/Clear as that is what they use in the collision repair business. The single stage enamels will be much cheaper material wise. I painted mine myself and so I saved some money on labor but it was still about $800.00 or so just in material. '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davest4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 19:43:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E9A2C0B44 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:43:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487E22D07A1 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id v13so1571920vbk.14 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:38:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J4ZzMPDj7Kb+rIm6et/dGwP2ePXNOQKU5RA1B0XM35c=; b=an6Dsxz7mBmobc9TW4L3FfgfHahGV13UgAtMuKhX1iMWmkK54Pu5qLtdf2IZLWi/ll eujwN8BvFuNIBLLajBgBzjazZ2NNP2XqgFU511R5ZXVLkWiuCO9FpCp98wj8EFfOj/GY jMYYnRha+uGdFL+iN8vIPu//Vbd11+VQX1n8mUZFYBWo0Z+RXhdWXnNazaGDxtK+poY8 2XCVl2mBMlo7O5sFbaFcAHXjf3csMbKa11LGMDuOTMO/TzYnQc4GYeOVz91g9SW0brej SQslBDuykLCC05002G5bb0FPs9Rp00zMJUL1ZjfgyuPROR6hUtaN74QBFVl17+hkfS9q q70w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.173.74 with SMTP id bi10mr3468399vdc.81.1349397487062; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.187.112 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:38:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] split calipers, vented rotors, was: Nippondenso mini alternator (coffee can, racing, etc) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, others: > You would need to search the Sideways Forums. I read thru the small > Triumph (Spit/GT6/Vitesse (I think)) archive where it appears the most > common vented rotor was from a Capri. I **presume** this to be a Ford > Capri - a later derivative of the L-M Capri that was imported to the US in > the '70's, Those forums have a number of participants that are involved in > vehicle modification. There might be people involved with vented rotors > using modified stock calipers on the big Triumphs, I just was not looking > for that infomation. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Frank Fisher > To: aribert neumann , "triumphs@autox.team.net" < > triumphs@autox.team.net> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:52:40 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [TR] Nippondenso mini alternator (coffee can, racing, etc alt) > Some of our Triumph brethren on the other side of the pond are splitting > the > calipers to put spacers between in order to run vented rotors. > > what a neat > idea. do you happen to know what the source of the rotors are? Toyota > again? > > i have never had a problem splitting the rotors. it aint rocket science. > and i > like the idea of vented rotors. > > Frank > > From: aribert neumann > > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, October 1, > 2012 8:33 PM > ....Earlier this > Summer I happened upon the Sideways Forums ion-boards/> > > http://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php/forum/1-technical-discussion-boards/ ion-boards/> > ,found the Small Triumph archived folder and started reading some of the > posts..... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 20:51:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B012D0844 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:51:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B092D096B for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so3123187ied.14 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=z4/HmqxvDF/tKh+QMDBupWTCbM4cnl46wjp52Wl3Jws=; b=v3rO7X0smtW8KTO1yQkxJWVb9OqjXKoj2I2YBfuEUwTFw1bzt81XzD3lHuClDfTsSp zfjxa0aonMCBX6ugTJiJALDQcZpkrxxNdLLTMSx4V6PB6qhH57uTFJIeaxZfEwjOlzFA pi7NAPtmHb39VMEVwZtBrviV2zPEsAcvkvIbW3K9sI7eEwo16H4R8T6kSBLuomk+0IBb dG3nQOhvkigkRECFIGfNF+zpocTMi4Gofqx+rw8CWjvZpQRJosTM/q5fiRYmo3pd8aFY 43jjkvmWwOVnmcOc0n3Ink3nbC6Bwzf5RFGqlS0Gnqfh6JAwZoV9lABeR0PkgadpQx/l otyw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.161.232 with SMTP id xv8mr7318889igb.22.1349399439148; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1349390845.88090.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1349390845.88090.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:10:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr3 tr4 handbrake X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mine (TR3A & TR4) appear to be identical (though I have never taken them apart to observe any mechanical differences). Geo On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > was the TR4 handbrake the same as the TR3? > IE chrome tube fly off? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 21:01:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6082D01EC for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:01:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C782D0959 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:24:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121005012657.ZBA24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:26:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 7DSx1k00B1bBNls05DSxAo; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:26:57 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=71YCmB65V-QA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=MBERhjTdP5j3sd1gGjkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <506E3765.1070109@charter.net> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:27:01 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121004-0, 10/04/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] A type overdrive solenoid problem? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/3/2012 11:49 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > So the solenoid is bad right? What has me stumped is that the solenoid > will operate if I hook it directly to an extra battery that I have. > Why would it work with 12 volts directly but not 12 volts through the > circuit? Will the solenoid wire light up a stoplight bulb? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 22:05:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DA62D0AF3 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 22:05:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3DC2D0150 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Toms ([unknown] [71.173.130.225]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBE00JPUFTNVZE2@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <9488AF9C28B847C98CBE179BB00EBB07@Toms> From: "Tom Note" To: "Frank Fisher" , "Triumphs" References: <1349390845.88090.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:48:59 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] tr3 tr4 handbrake X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, the handbrake on my '64 was fly-off, and chrome. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fisher" To: "Triumphs" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:47 PM Subject: [TR] tr3 tr4 handbrake > was the TR4 handbrake the same as the TR3? > IE chrome tube fly off? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tom628@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 23:22:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6D52D0812 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:22:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 81DDD2D09A3 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 21:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm15.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2012 03:31:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2012 03:31:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Oct 2012 03:31:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 188743.25090.bm@omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93207 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2012 03:31:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:X-MIMEOLE:Thread-Index; b=BWnZgzoQTVYcAjLmSYG0FSVuvR2BtIMDVWKFM61xICzsnjwu9S2BjdEXIATuXIUn1BnYvQ26mn6DgM2m7xCX0kdn+nm7DWwcEmoWqNHkkUvxx67d+DQfx3QhGuonY/lqBBR9A6BU87oI6JQJ/pOknk2Mxu0AsmMhfdDYQ8wf288= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1349407877; bh=Q0e6hOeGdXquGfDgwIrX8rrPj7AMHGS8x9TZ2tJ/TKI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:X-MIMEOLE:Thread-Index; b=YIziHqM68otyENbCyse3eF4l8Dnl5cnQ4LdUg8JojEbM9yKRAOUc+ouY90PHB7KKNQ+mzer2K4evg5BBNkuwMNEP9mXd8BSOwqjjiSf95O8TSwQDFqQt0jWW3J9ZSdfjTbIaZlGP3HkxhsEDTUiXRNzH+vyxcQ3CE/pWgLCVPj0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Kx1t.sIVM1lDlxuB3gw7SL37K.pWLxi2uHcN49a.G4AYjhi zRKj0FD5A0wEF2x5K59uCm1lwYK6N44oX2K_YZ4Dqt4.lAHTyPPnM.5yhsD_ Grq3cI4pkwC.03IUM8EloYV_6FXtKzeWe9xhCD8x.Ru0WQe8W4SXheim_qfX EVKFT3Af.BzuYoLJOA7vdaxd3qCuW504wkEA2wJQpUyYZZvC.u24Ym2gK7qC pVkpYqRGTxYA_Cd70baLoC6e.y_gfN3ioBoe3K4dYUaof1VFf4GYaWEQN.oT PQE1Je1NK5O5HC03VCBA3Z3pIsEaoh9tVX8Zi5yuXmn4vUguSboo0RHvtSW1 l7waW8L4QmPRH9Uk55YaMqv1oJ3._MCvB6X7ee3AQdC.KHquc6yNzIFpwc7g 0DzMUmuIhZHfj7q_7nLw7ASvUG6OrerfYcCLw9mZJxvK2JFf.Encc4ajk7wD vKbewJO82xmZSDOwf8ynWQz8rHkJEpyhrx.QkXUyocm.hKeVl75_XzTqRsHJ 9L.ryS5QQc4QAHoZXeNV34ysgRZa70dAaGLwiFP7VzzyEnd1REJLLNlLwaU2 jHMpNXQBIDd4MJMU9SheQuDb4A.tS X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Oct 2012 20:31:17 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Dave Connitt'" , "'Peter Ryner'" , References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net><8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph><6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> <12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 22:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> Thread-Index: Ac2ikrifN8wSMekVTeOG7ugic0WjWgAFkF+A Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Got to thinking during this thread. Can you go the basecoat/clearcoat route and use a less glossy clearcoat to more closely mimic the original single-stage paints? Just thinking out loud, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Connitt Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:13 PM To: Peter Ryner; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types Hi Peter, I recently finished up painting my TR4A IRS using RM Diamont base coat and Limco LC1000 clear coat. I couldn't be happier with the results. I am not looking for a "authentic" finish so shiny is good. The clear coat allows you to color sand and buff the final paint to be mirror smooth. If your into that, Base/Clear is the way to go. The single stage paints are more for the guy looking for a original finish tends to be not as smooth. I agree with one of the other guys who said most painters will push to go Base/Clear as that is what they use in the collision repair business. The single stage enamels will be much cheaper material wise. I painted mine myself and so I saved some money on labor but it was still about $800.00 or so just in material. '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davest4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 4 23:29:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65F52D0662 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 23:29:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551B12D0901 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 22:06:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBE0032EJJZYK10@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 23:09:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 00:08:42 -0400 Organization: Carl Message-id: <000001cda2af$1b9b9510$52d2bf30$@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: Ac2irxsM4yQlLK+LTfG0Ejuv1wsscw== Content-language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Electric Fan wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am adding a pusher fan on my TR3 and wanting to confirm my wiring 'plan'. See: http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/Electr icFanCircuit.jpg Do I have it right? Thanks Carl 1961 TR3A TS81802LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 03:04:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from spamb1.newburgh.k12.ny.us (unknown [64.72.67.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAF52D0A2B; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 03:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gw.newburgh.k12.ny.us (gw.newburgh.k12.ny.us [64.72.67.162]) by spamb1.newburgh.k12.ny.us (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q958mejW057246; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 05:06:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mramos@necsd.net) Authentication-Results: spamb1.newburgh.k12.ny.us; sender-id=none header.from=mramos@necsd.net; spf=none smtp.mfrom=mramos@necsd.net Received: from exchange02.necsd.net ([10.1.80.37]) by gw.newburgh.k12.ny.us (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q958KqxS002686; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:20:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mramos@necsd.net) Received: from EXCHANGE.necsd.net ([10.1.80.38]) by exchange02.necsd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:23:18 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CDA2D1.5F685DB8" Subject: Your Mailbox Has Exceeded It Storage Limit Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Your Mailbox Has Exceeded It Storage Limit thread-index: Ac2i0V7BNx85sBC9RMS1WXcc3wTJdQ== From: "Ramos, Maritza" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2012 08:23:18.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC734600:01CDA2D2] X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2012.0.2221 [2441/5310] X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at spamb1.newburgh.k12.ny.us X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-32.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, LOCAL_TQUOTA,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,MISSING_HEADERS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on spamb1.newburgh.k12.ny.us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CDA2D1.5F685DB8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your Mailbox Has Exceeded It Storage Limit As Set By Your Administrator, = And You Will Not Be Able To Receive New Mails Until You Re-Validate It. = To Re-Validate - > = Click Here: = =20 Thanks, System Administrator.=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CDA2D1.5F685DB8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CDA2D1.5F685DB8-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 04:42:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8E32D08FD for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:42:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACD12D0972 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 03:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k6so1411763lbo.14 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:25:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=j4zqr8WYOmAlFjo7AGFCJId3a5aAAjHcFXLR7bCBfLo=; b=S5W9NfJWi+A7C6AaYYo6Oufa1SSYpoayfnjd7HPv1A172C5xY8vYeNyX0dP1EaJF+s NyfkfgTBMxNF5M1364If4pbMJTE1QCTJKJVP9Mu0eZC6C1Zy6aDkQN08VE08HfXhpQ15 Yvu1oO4gRahRBhtbRa8S4yUa8yFNShenacVJKLIzWpSm3VdoJsTd5JubnsoHImMQbrCM lIKSMhpPkv/bFx4Kgg9heD5RE+vyopV5hdCraJ5B9fyVxthO0c7SDeR7ilWt0LghetI9 3+0V2XjvtiMOoqeMGpXBUfOKL6GhtXP4JvwEVBqbMnMx3VA1o+UHEvtH1thrJvCOeevE lFcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.47.97 with SMTP id c1mr6270984lan.37.1349429111875; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.67.48 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 02:25:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 05:25:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've painted a couple of TR's and I prefer the single stage and then I use a cocktail of clear in the final coat. The single stage can still be color sanded if you want a super smooth finish. The single stage also more closely duplicates the original enamel in that when you polish it, in that the color comes off on your rag. A clear coat has no color of course. All the new paints are going to give a much brighter finish than the enamel. I also don't like the way the clearcoat has a tendency to flake off with age. Al On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Peter Ryner wrote: > All, > My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM > Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased > with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week > and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look > much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new > paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but > it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? > I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. > TIA > Pete > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 08:24:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAE52D0A6A for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:24:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C5A2D09EA for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 06:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q95CAVlr006763 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:10:31 -0400 Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CAE77E000081 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:10:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3d91.e09149b.3da02836@cs.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:10:30 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349439030; bh=gO+qSfWZfD5/+NNhOj8x0YlyxAHWdmcXVEREkENjj/I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xfag+3Um094KoDDCGb2KJRT4wIm0WLaBvDnUhUZfAw4CX4FRVCOU7e03UtRf4bGzO 0akbvM/9GkPfuAetwpwGxyfE6KXMdNcBFjnvByJwoQhDGS93iUOlMfkiYS3nHdt0j3 sS/5RPGopjGLLRjd+iLB0TsRZVOs0Ev/xMgArvv8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:488232832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a506ece36610b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I was confused there for a while. The ring terminals with the crosses looked to be positive electrical connections. Maybe they are and if this is a positive ground vehicle it should work just fine. But on second thought these look like they might be Philips head screws and as every concours judge will tell you Philips head screws are incorrect for a TR3. Seriously, if these are connections to chassis everything is correct with the exception of the ground connection for the fan which is not shown. But let's assume you know better than to leave this detail unattended. Note: this configuration will run the fan even with the key off so be careful not to leave the car unattended in the ON mode. Your battery will thank you for that. Dave In a message dated 10/5/2012 12:32:42 AM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > I am adding a pusher fan on my TR3 and wanting to confirm my wiring > 'plan'. > > See: > http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/Elect > r > icFanCircuit.jpg > > Do I have it right? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 08:32:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530ED2C0C22 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:32:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 503B82D0A4D for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19455 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2012 13:13:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.35) with ESMTP; 05 Oct 2012 13:13:09 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Dave" To: References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net><8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph><6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net><12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:12:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think you can do different things with clearcoat. on my 6, which is supposed to have a flat black tail, my painter used clearcoat and (don't ask me how) gave it a flat instead of gloss finish. I think its absolutely perfect in mimicing the flat black, yet gives me a surface I can clean and polish. -----Original Message----- From: Wbeech Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:31 PM To: 'Dave Connitt' ; 'Peter Ryner' ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types Got to thinking during this thread. Can you go the basecoat/clearcoat route and use a less glossy clearcoat to more closely mimic the original single-stage paints? Just thinking out loud, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 09:55:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987012D091E for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:55:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFE62D0918 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:57:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so4765261ied.14 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=POX0FK3svESp1/78mPM1ZL6rUfgJeogMgDmRtfXPp28=; b=h7IR3RemfnoC35ORcNEMgHv+I9M3PjKhhoa+zbEt4BVV4q8/6aTggCbwvWmUVkqnK9 Z4KdAZBHkfionKYyUebXmDL8m60RyCsTVSEeUr22yAvGU+/aPgczXqlr9iVR7I+ti2/9 XagXB9aAhdCE3ltNbAnzOWh9cqSZyH4rmFVmX3AcKEc3BBeM55J+g1FW/iEqOxZC4CNi d3YU5p5PS3NK/ySr9doAdLuQe4VOFg/la+fe1GXnb8iLEnhdbfZJ+uYDkiOasR9nCwy3 FTprxEbGE7isG8Yf/XoXPB+afyAYs4ujO0h5OVcBDkAt525KtP5/U+NVy9+RA/OCORsV N64g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.35 with SMTP id np3mr1255521igc.22.1349445611155; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> <12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 07:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At best, that would seem to give you the look of original paint with the disadvantages of clear coat (easily scratched, might fog or peel, harder to touch-up).. Geo On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Got to thinking during this thread. Can you go the basecoat/clearcoat > route > and use a less glossy clearcoat to more closely mimic the original > single-stage paints? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 11:33:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DB32D0A19 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:33:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2574D2D087E for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so2148826pbb.14 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:46:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nubPZUScgrjk14KiukSXR74YgFUg0+q6d2JhhjzTD9o=; b=kirc7YpGMxQUK102ai8GsFp8aA5+zYOAif1utszjeQcoVhhRGQso6ffaSmMk0bmoc4 mtTR0HCqaRRy/bBjEx9VhkTCn7pPfxrwwvT54QiVS9DXCU5pwJ3r4CYeCZsZhhJfyv4n zYeEBIn/XWn5nDv9dxVi3wAMmvxgeA7wdnKkURSXWSJhZiQOOM0P6QbXKDUd6XeYDS2Z KEvLcntkUwb/g9BMUxuiKgAvPiJ1XnVWQMN0GXnaR8XNvH9hF4R8pHKkEX81d4nQIKvz vfum4o28UIzO6wMh4OknD5BFtt/UmNMvy0wgOoohX0dOQayguUPkp8wJTjplOOTXG3VV dRpw== Received: by 10.68.190.8 with SMTP id gm8mr31780828pbc.74.1349448386566; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vf8sm6166397pbc.27.2012.10.05.07.46.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506EF2BE.4050200@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:46:22 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net><8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph><6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net><12B5B032FACF41478D1B7F7B40D9CBFB@DaveLaptop> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And there is the way the clear coat looks after a few years when it becomes cloudy and is flaking off. I see those way too often in parking lots. How does one repair or polish up a cloudy flaking clear top coat? I don't think you could hit it with some rubbing compound and follow it up with polish like you can with a one step paint. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 11:39:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1532D0976 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:39:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6157E2D0A83 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170134pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBF00K4VDM21AY0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:58:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 63.239.65.11 ([63.239.65.11]) by vznit170134 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:58:50 -0500 (CDT) From: ptegler@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [63.239.65.11] Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net clear flake off is a prep issue...and/or waiting too long before applying (base set to much) In matched paint systems, there is zero reason for the clear to separate from the color base. Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com On 10/05/12, alan salvatore wrote: I've painted a couple of TR's and I prefer the single stage and then I use a cocktail of clear in the final coat. The single stage can still be color sanded if you want a super smooth finish. The single stage also more closely duplicates the original enamel in that when you polish it, in that the color comes off on your rag. A clear coat has no color of course. All the new paints are going to give a much brighter finish than the enamel. I also don't like the way the clearcoat has a tendency to flake off with age. Al On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Peter Ryner wrote: > All, > My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM > Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased > with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week > and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look > much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new > paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but > it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? > I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. > TIA > Pete > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 11:44:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF802D0424 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:44:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2318D2C0AA4 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:56:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=MuSdT-lgOnEA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=jMaxNjXyKAAA:10 a=mBdBobYncBcK88LWXksA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.145.70.134 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:58018] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F1/F1-15382-8D30F605; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:59:20 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 08:59:19 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01cda312$61841f80$248c5e80$@roadrunner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2jEmEgTXJ0Sm2oSbe/Uo7BL5/0zA== Content-Language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121005-1, 10/05/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have to say, after painting cars for over 35 years, I think today's paints are the absolute best. I painted my TR4A in single stage (no clear coat) and it came out flat, smooth and beautiful. It looked like the original paint finish. I've also done cars in 2 stage (base/clear) and they look great too - more "deep" than single stage for sure, but my taste if more for originality and I don't think the clear coat looks original. I love to see a car with paint that looks like a deep pool of color, BUT that isn't how it looked when new. Both single and 2 stage paint jobs can be (and should be) wet sanded with 1200 grit and polished to mirror finish. At least that's how I do it. The difference is the single stage doesn't look as "deep". Personal preference. 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Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net http://www.teglerizer.com/ On 10/05/12, alan salvatore wrote: I've painted a couple of TR's and I prefer the single stage and then I use a cocktail of clear in the final coat. The single stage can still be color sanded if you want a super smooth finish. The single stage also more closely duplicates the original enamel in that when you polish it, in that the color comes off on your rag. A clear coat has no color of course. All the new paints are going to give a much brighter finish than the enamel. I also don't like the way the clearcoat has a tendency to flake off with age. Al On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Peter Ryner wrote: > All, > My '56 TR-3 is in need of a respray. It was last done in 1991 with RM > Diamond paint system. Although not original type paint, I was very pleased > with the looks of the finished product. I took the car to a shop last week > and they recommended a base coat clear coat system. Said it would look > much better and will hold up better. I have mixed feelings about a new > paint system on a 56 year old car. I've kept most everything original but > it will never be a concours car. Any experience or views on the subject? > I haven't seen a TR with a new clear coat system on it. > TIA > Pete > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 15:02:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E32C2D0AF4 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:02:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (unknown [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BE42D0A47 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBF00DT8RGFNRV0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:57:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl-TR" To: , References: <3d91.e09149b.3da02836@cs.com> In-reply-to: <3d91.e09149b.3da02836@cs.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:56:56 -0400 Organization: Carl Message-id: <000901cda333$93dbaf40$bb930dc0$@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: AQFekRwpgTyRT8PhGwoXYZdn4mWyWpiJQ07Q Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net LOL - they are the ground connection. No 'wire' means through body of lamp, etc. and yes - I did omit the ground on the fan by mistake. I had thought about getting power after the ignition switch but that would mean a lot of extra wire up behind the dash. Hence the warning lamp. Thanks C . -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:11 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan wiring OK, I was confused there for a while. The ring terminals with the crosses looked to be positive electrical connections. Maybe they are and if this is a positive ground vehicle it should work just fine. But on second thought these look like they might be Philips head screws and as every concours judge will tell you Philips head screws are incorrect for a TR3. Seriously, if these are connections to chassis everything is correct with the exception of the ground connection for the fan which is not shown. But let's assume you know better than to leave this detail unattended. Note: this configuration will run the fan even with the key off so be careful not to leave the car unattended in the ON mode. Your battery will thank you for that. Dave In a message dated 10/5/2012 12:32:42 AM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > I am adding a pusher fan on my TR3 and wanting to confirm my wiring > 'plan'. > > See: > http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/ > Elect > r > icFanCircuit.jpg > > Do I have it right? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 17:17:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D4F2D0AC9 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:17:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F22D0AD0 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q95L84Il003739 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:08:04 -0400 Received: from core-moa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.13]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8F78EE000081 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:08:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <7a46d.3942bbf7.3da0a634@cs.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:08:04 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349471284; bh=SYJj7fu4PnxoYlyYe4prLhFNDe1pIxzI329rNyR6E0A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UfCnA2rBcOxYYl3jM0mNoJZ1SI8oGa7I9JORcgT8K+IR4KnXtQgrb5IuwpCHBQuG5 KbXyw/FDHSE51bpfA65yNmFRnDhe03SobYNDEWb6uSp8UmoDwISqLPwN26r3plElAZ 3lK4ktM8SG1IcPggXiUfaNa0TzEUoainc8fX8dvM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:471219616:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909506f4c340f05 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nice graphics! Dave In a message dated 10/5/2012 2:58:06 PM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > LOL - they are the ground connection. No 'wire' means through body of > lamp, etc. and yes - I did omit the ground on the fan by mistake. > I had thought about getting power after the ignition switch but that would > mean a lot of extra wire up behind the dash. Hence the warning lamp. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 20:52:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD242D0A73 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:52:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AA82D07AE for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:50:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by bradakis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E7422E065; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:57:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Mark J Bradakis To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20121006015755.6E7422E065@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:57:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [TR] List availability X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The trusty old Cisco DSL modem that has served Team.Net well for many years is failing. I'm working on replacing it with a brand new Actiontec unit. It is not going well. There are some issues with the new modem that need to be resolved. So over the next day or so Team.Net may be off the air for a few minutes, hopefully no more than half an hour at a time as I apply the digital equivalent of a BFH to the hardware. I appreciate your patience. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 22:06:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3722D06EA for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:06:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D0B2D0A96 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q962R3nY025089; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:27:03 -0400 Received: from core-mhc004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.196]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E3113E000081; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:27:02 -0400 (EDT) References: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> <1349460418.9874.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, ptegler@verizon.net, triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <1349460418.9874.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37058-STANDARD Received: from 69.195.56.73 by webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF7181346BBA09-2138-6313@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.195.56.73] Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:27:02 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349490423; bh=SScMVCGVmm5cB99O5vWyin/kdRmafsYHcPqT7h2YniM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KmzPrqiAYg0FSo4sm2oMtX6hYzp6SbfeOR2FD6qtJcle9VcjlBuMRsePz6BNWNpzR jkCH24Yk8gqSqVYmrO54gX+EJf53tQONdESl5lNEHtot8EWObLLpGxGIfthHRg4ahd XpoU55lbP1c2DwYx2iXXHxqkNzz47JtTp+qLAZG4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:399440576:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d506f96f671bf X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Paul Tegler wrote: clear flake off is a prep issue...and/orwaiting too long before applying (base set to much) In matched paint systems,there is zero reason for the clear to separate from the color base. ======= >From what I've seen over the years, flaking clear coat is mostly a matter of a car that hasn't been out of the elements since sometime late in the 2nd Clinton administration and likely has never seen a can of wax, either. I can't imagine most Triumph owners spending several thousand on any sort of repaint and then leaving the car outside forever after! ;) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, TriumphHerald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage TriumphRegister: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph HeraldDatabase: http://triumph-herald.us ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 23:06:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8C12D021D for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:06:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2EE2D0E33 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:20:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so986121wgb.20 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ibAARQAraNpeRcaAkJCsX3nbrcKCIICyM8kbjs0lneo=; b=xbKcoPqU5HGI431pNU2VJkZMcMR2cTMzC39urwwmOa+GwiG/Fao51Pe7DOfel0j/dp 1aLSr8DaCa9RPu/qEFJfJugT9Xja/G0kknBtSo+USAf+CYWgiqv8aE9eD2//M0/7t/oo YcuvWYn1CjIXODo7UD2uIxBIFcS6GtotnhrGi9BE13wE5CwbMLD/xYQIiDG59rV+0rTJ mhJ7rn6WOwiQGp7VN3dsMU5Wg+ch+RQ7v+oKm6VdcfAcY5IzZESxFINh7EE7upkQ9lj0 V28Y4oSEePYm/4ERwCaBeXdzmFP7NYSrKkTEN8wwu7b+5pjK6WTcrScQz6DuJ/eMhMBD fAZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.3.1 with SMTP id q1mr6057459wes.38.1349493813411; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] How hot is too hot? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We made it to the Shenandoah Car Club British car show today. Not as smoothly as I'd like but we made it. Temperature ran in the 195 to 200 range the entire way. But that's not how it ran 3 days ago. This spring, I took the radiator to the shop and he said it was great. I'm beginning to think maybe my radiator guy is not so good. I'm not sure the distributors behaving correctly, though. I set the timing static and then I adusted from there. I think maybe my vacuum advance could be intermittent could that cause overheating? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 5 23:16:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122E2D0D05 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:16:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916072D07FA for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:41:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so2730618pad.14 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:44:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3xRI/RZuvwFNkqZ9xKATI9+Pwry+FDpyRB2LIdugA7Y=; b=xz9RjOq6HRICp5nxKLaMjIHk2sT6o8c/tnWdyrpCF1RXgYo6r3QM8jKPP4ASqs16fX ktcCZoBdYhSLWSglqCU2pMZEFHApe0ix1QvgzHo9S8iteD3rtKEgF4J+xx5/+EnAm1bT F3VTqxfYdlVPOZKAwXZfTOLZp2jDflHnOdxyoFTRCt3zN+X3KfknAShWfSTaEicpnhIS Flh+i9m30/LVPHXAzEp42jaL71briELOvkhYNfTfDhWNZy2ZnV8aEp0X5J46jeRW3lfl lA7+WK2LLceRRbWtRz9MCSsZafacUYQsrAyWDAN5s+TojZEdGVn85LVtwma/RsxpUjIT lZAw== Received: by 10.68.224.132 with SMTP id rc4mr35624097pbc.155.1349495067237; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rw5sm7013483pbc.54.2012.10.05.20.44.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:44:23 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> In-Reply-To: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/5/12 7:58 AM, ptegler@verizon.net wrote: > clear flake off is a prep issue...and/or waiting too long before applying (base set to much) > In matched paint systems, there is zero reason for the clear to separate from the color base. > Then why do I see it is so many factory paint jobs? Are the car manufacturers screwing up their paint jobs? TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 00:57:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCD02D0C3E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 00:57:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8392D09BA for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.192] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id e594000f995d8cb8; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 23:31:45 -0600 Message-ID: <506FC251.5000609@dfn.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:32:01 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" References: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> <506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/5/2012 9:44 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 10/5/12 7:58 AM, ptegler@verizon.net wrote: >> clear flake off is a prep issue...and/or waiting too long before >> applying (base set to much) >> In matched paint systems, there is zero reason for the clear to >> separate from the color base. >> > Then why do I see it is so many factory paint jobs? Are the car > manufacturers screwing up their paint jobs? > Here in the southwest, it's very common to see clear-coat problems, and on factory paint. The clear coat doesn't so much separate and flake as turn to powder, which suggests that the problem is the result of deterioration due to UV. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 07:41:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4952D0AF1 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 07:41:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554ED2D0969 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:43:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=jYuJbpoU04sA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KhvWUiAU27oA:10 a=qtH04HvCoKl4nTzIzigA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F0/D9-17657-A3820705; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 12:46:50 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 05:47:58 -0700 Message-ID: <0e2401cda3c0$d053bed0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2jgQomX6XsmMJ9Q6So9yZDtCzQ+AAPeALQ Subject: Re: [TR] How hot is too hot? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > This spring, I took the radiator to the shop and he said it > was great. I'm > beginning to think maybe my radiator guy is not so good. FWIW I had the exact same problem. I've dealt with this shop for many years, and rarely had a complaint, but they sure got me this time. They twice pronounced the radiator "fine". On the third round, I insisted that they "rod out" the tubes and they discovered that the insides were coated with "mud" to the extent that they could just barely force the rods through. Afterwards it leaked in so many places that I opted for a new core instead. All of my cooling problems promptly vanished. The strangest part is that this was the radiator from my wrecked TR3A, which had already been recored about 10 years ago and was working just fine before the wreck. There was absolutely no physical damage to it, but apparently just sitting idle for a few years had allowed the coating to build up inside the tubes; and all my efforts at backflushing, chemical cleaning and so on had failed to dislodge it. > I think maybe my vacuum > advance could > be intermittent could that cause overheating? In theory, yes. But a TR3 doesn't run a lot of vacuum advance, and at least in my experience a bum advance module doesn't seem to show up on the temp gauge. I've always caught it because the midrange throttle response seems a bit sluggish. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 09:23:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F3B2D0A25 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:23:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217B12D0504 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 08:06:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q96E9kK9016421 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:09:46 -0400 Received: from core-moa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.13]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 11B80E000085 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1341a.47b829ff.3da195a9@cs.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:09:45 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349532586; bh=qbjF8vzd1NOtARoWEWYttFUOenGxJjgJOjlsav42VIE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FpF8rO6lrECd/7x1U50jx1xBDNX/RL+jPr+btJpOXiXHownIKr4hvQpHVSSjq2+pj /Bm6Aa9cXAO8ROzdKyfCQjfjs5YPTIH6w6G2bWZBluY9fCjRRQkR4HDRV8PEocYFZp ZRN48+b+xxoyG9cZoYPueD7wire4j5nKJeXh0mUU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:383038464:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850703baa6019 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] How hot is too hot? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net First and foremost, can you trust your temperture gauge? Have you checked it against a known standard? If you can borrow a thermocouple gauge place the thermocouple on the thermostat housing and see if it reads differntly. Second, what is the opening temperature of the thermostat? If the temp stays consistantly in the 195 - 200 range and the gauge is accurate I have suspect the thermostat. Real cooling issues will come a go based on driving conditions and ambient temperature. Dave In a message dated 10/6/2012 12:10:21 AM Central Daylight Time, ccsimonsen@gmail.com writes: > We made it to the Shenandoah Car Club British car show today. Not as > smoothly as I'd like but we made it. > > Temperature ran in the 195 to 200 range the entire way. But that's not how > it ran 3 days ago. > > This spring, I took the radiator to the shop and he said it was great. I'm > beginning to think maybe my radiator guy is not so good. > > I'm not sure the distributors behaving correctly, though. I set the timing > static and then I adusted from there. I think maybe my vacuum advance > could > be intermittent could that cause overheating? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 09:26:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C10B2D02AA for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:26:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2418D2D0815 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 08:12:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:17 a=9XOHBX1n8dsA:10 a=jYuJbpoU04sA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KhvWUiAU27oA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=EZXuPQRjth5RLVOxkJ4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=F7LWL4Wnv9p2p4efJzjc/w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 173.88.251.65 Received: from [173.88.251.65] ([173.88.251.65:51452] helo=UserTHINK) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D6/07-11767-EEC30705; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:15:11 +0000 Message-ID: <68BDCDDB7579493E8688D98690E11AD9@UserTHINK> From: "Jerry Van Vlack" To: "Randall" , "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: <0e2401cda3c0$d053bed0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <0e2401cda3c0$d053bed0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:15:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] How hot is too hot? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another thing that can get overlooked is the deterioration of the bond between the fins and the tubes themselves. Without a good bond there the heat transfer can not happen efficiently. It's hard to diagnose as well. But a new core will fix that problem nicely. JVV -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 8:47 AM To: 'Chris Simo' ; 'list Triumph' Subject: Re: [TR] How hot is too hot? > This spring, I took the radiator to the shop and he said it > was great. I'm > beginning to think maybe my radiator guy is not so good. FWIW I had the exact same problem. I've dealt with this shop for many years, and rarely had a complaint, but they sure got me this time. They twice pronounced the radiator "fine". On the third round, I insisted that they "rod out" the tubes and they discovered that the insides were coated with "mud" to the extent that they could just barely force the rods through. Afterwards it leaked in so many places that I opted for a new core instead. All of my cooling problems promptly vanished. The strangest part is that this was the radiator from my wrecked TR3A, which had already been recored about 10 years ago and was working just fine before the wreck. There was absolutely no physical damage to it, but apparently just sitting idle for a few years had allowed the coating to build up inside the tubes; and all my efforts at backflushing, chemical cleaning and so on had failed to dislodge it. > I think maybe my vacuum > advance could > be intermittent could that cause overheating? In theory, yes. But a TR3 doesn't run a lot of vacuum advance, and at least in my experience a bum advance module doesn't seem to show up on the temp gauge. I've always caught it because the midrange throttle response seems a bit sluggish. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv@roadrunner.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 09:27:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50F2D0CA6 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:27:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A5CA2D065E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 08:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2012 14:30:35 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.122] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2012 14:30:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Oct 2012 14:30:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 888230.10612.bm@omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41670 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2012 14:30:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=s5G2wz1Fu9oIZf1Q/MFJRAE7iFvLglN/WySV+aBtyKnRMvCeNVtrZDwRHJQaExPrBL4cfO7uhFF4w+pbIwTVH8yBYu0/2KqF88n1a7bb0wDGjuPKkBrgH0x+RiELFx+ByIMzohp552vkaNb/XO9GaCjbf+bdZumjA3/PWOgLA8c= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1349533834; bh=RgjYvhbdlv3pwVW4RAFab+1G3tLJCMILZ8juI41nd1Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=5t+lAx8lxr9GJDlJIn1H6vnuWEAHnfguD9sluxUCnU1yPsCD5RKg3shh8cFSPuys1NgDkeNSq4LAaEJHnajt7vifBqxUtZMGtmFLC19CyThZti/oTi70h11BUpKV4rK/urKofUIEt/1RD3yJDsiE40kOYnW2vAClxziIvanfjjc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jDpYlrQVM1lQeV_2ow2UnkjgbukKjIwt.TdyCPaijDOXF0F yaC8REsA.1Azudpg9OAHTYCEMFMxZei28zTsEp7bLhRpitBkPARs4r9Fuo06 G.8nf_kuYZUvpVtAJM9hRLm5hPkPa67rnePayZd7HZgaaff9xSnnrf6UXspL mVae0tP7grCDe4wOfiv2vBoOUBB68QCsEgOBJ59xPS6qSnXAEwB5hXT9jG4K A5hnbQ8dJm_BQh99yb3FxGmIcA1w3tIjbU8s472BqnDH0iU.lCCi1FtcYsDo 7l5Lf8qPFW5HxM5RRwZ.p.F9OQ5yahaImM0ZIqe_HGTEQUwW4rZT7_GXz9TT LmITu4Yru0TAoqJm.7bVujX8iqFm8VV5artiwxpgeSgBax_c.SuF9Py.b3Y_ YKPWslIeBfLgyOuHAokXjEME2QiS3kA5_JhJ16bDl_yRiXdvnj6ds3s2tFpZ v0JemtVLTXOoRO3i4n3hq7tMYYWskKbvOLiDc8CZTmt_ZnhAZHu1s6bnHCp3 x9KcbVTUMD_JI3Aj1BZ9DUSWJrGD.ac_2chKFSQe59ag.NrWSeYylLDYZGIL 6BbN7gSU7jTRYSlNBipb6gIUgTSYn7NEXhOuZRHVwnjhU9Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Oct 2012 07:30:34 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:30:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2jgRo+aeCMron8ScCScN5uiZwglQAS/FwA Subject: Re: [TR] How hot is too hot? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you vacuum advance is leaking air that can lean out your mixture and cause a hotter engine. Pull a spark plug and check the color. Did your radiator guy actually check the flow of the radiator or just pressurize it and confirm that it does not leak? My thoughts, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 10:24 PM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] How hot is too hot? We made it to the Shenandoah Car Club British car show today. Not as smoothly as I'd like but we made it. Temperature ran in the 195 to 200 range the entire way. But that's not how it ran 3 days ago. This spring, I took the radiator to the shop and he said it was great. I'm beginning to think maybe my radiator guy is not so good. I'm not sure the distributors behaving correctly, though. I set the timing static and then I adusted from there. I think maybe my vacuum advance could be intermittent could that cause overheating? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 09:32:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B412D0784 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:32:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9092D08A4 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 08:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W2 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 07:38:20 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:38:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2012 14:38:20.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AE3DFF0:01CDA3D0] Subject: [TR] TR6 total ignition advance X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A buddy is bringing his stock 74 TR6 over tomorrow to play with ignition timing. What total advance are you folks running on your stock TR6's? Thanks, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 12:08:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90AD2D0A9E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 12:08:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063122D0A5D for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 10:39:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=9moCdRn4ijcA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=n1Zfit1vN-8A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=L4Q5XfhI1K5pQ6YDcF0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:58841] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 54/4B-17657-29F50705; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:42:58 +0000 Message-ID: <50705F97.2050900@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 12:43:03 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marty sukey References: In-Reply-To: Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 total ignition advance X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Marty, The conventional wisdom is to use a vacuum gauge and set the timing at idle. Refer to the 6 pack forum for info on how many inches of mercury vacuum is best for the stock engine. 6 pack members state: With fresh points/plugs/cap/rotor/wires, and it pulls over 18in. of vacuum at idle with an indicated 14 deg. of advance (damper checked against piston TDC with a dial indicator). During the winter, I will be getting a good gauge in order to work on my 72 6. I have set it using the static timing method and then making small adjustments using the micro adjustment on the distro. But I think I still dont have optimum power. I compare the 72 to the performance on my TR3 and TR4 and I feel both the 3 and 4 have more power. The 72 runs fine, sounds fine but just doesnt have the pull of the 3 or 4, especially on hills in 4th gear. Bob On 10/06/2012 10:38 AM, marty sukey wrote: > A buddy is bringing his stock 74 TR6 over tomorrow to play with ignition > timing. What total advance are you folks running on your stock TR6's? > > Thanks, > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 14:40:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531272D0AA9 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 14:40:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (unknown [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D59A2D016D for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 12:46:41 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=N+2r5hBB c=1 sm=0 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=BOz8SG0jYbcA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=AlE57uxYKvAA:10 a=V9WXSSeIkh5HLeZ5uUYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50100] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 5E/FF-11114-02D70705; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <6C70D3B055024AA291092441DB9EFA77@DaveLaptop> From: "Dave Connitt" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" , References: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134> <506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 14:55:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn, I think what you are referring to is from a few years ago when the car makers were experimenting with water based paint systems. Chrysler and GM had huge issues with clear coat deterioation. My neighbor 2 doors up has a Dodge mini-van (about 15 years old) that is real bad. I don't think you see it too much anymore but is sure is ugly.. Dave Connitt '67 TR4A Finally painted! Saving for a wire harness http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 17:23:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD052D0B96 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:23:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477072C0435 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 15:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail189-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.234) by CH1EHSOBE012.bigfish.com (10.43.70.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:34:28 +0000 Received: from mail189-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail189-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA64440239 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:34:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.17.160; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx1.tcd.ie; RD:imx1.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: VPS0(zzzz1d18h1202h1d1ah1d2ahzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1155h) Received: from mail189-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail189-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1349559248804270_32587; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS022.bigfish.com (snatpool2.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.234]) by mail189-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B653260055 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx1.tcd.ie (134.226.17.160) by CH1EHSMHS022.bigfish.com (10.43.70.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:34:08 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F7F48A5 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 22:34:08 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 22:33:36 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 22:33:35 +0100 Thread-Topic: turn signals? Thread-Index: AQHNpAo9o07335fxU0W6FQlyI41bqA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net can I throw an odd one out to the oracle; I noticed when I had my side lights on, I could not really see the flasher flashing, it is a double filament bulb, but is hardly noticeable over the side light itself. cheers John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 19:14:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AEE2D0AD5 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:14:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA552D02A6 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:39:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=YP4dOG6x c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=7iZy7R5RYdUA:10 a=L5x7hP9ThE1tVJF8xMEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54905] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F3/B9-12302-FE1C0705; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 23:42:40 +0000 Message-ID: <6EA0319FAAE548B092EFB34AD88C7E34@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "John Gillis" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:42:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think that can happen if you have the wiring reversed on the lights, i.e. turn signal is going to side light filament and vice versa. Anyway its an easy check. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 19:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017572D0C6B for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:19:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747252D0AE7 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:55:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so8152911ied.14 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:58:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=R6+5HlmsN6wLqnPx2cNp2YuXX+xGdiHMcgpzTJyByb8=; b=eClK/yadQdE0vyjKfIMjgmaWJ/xxoAWEfkIcIuDFAf+giYoSLMojL/cG8q5WHS0FvT qd/vjx8WFFUzAVkhF15D65i/IH6qf742hgPWCqA4JyeckwENPYaYgRhhnfmgdmUs2G9O LHCsKscMZtYjAypBtBrjJDB5ogNAWyLyECeDHfWH0aKvocujQTBtECx1WMbple6LHVJy q5UVnXW7FHQFKjRRm1mLzdffY2l9uXBs1ucuk9Z83Yg4qc20+SqzOyapX1LbFbN6Y6Y1 NCcHJ3id7xc1xSlmJ6pKMrh8/OEYvXJh6a+Od+upSh1iPLNKGhzYKq9j17vpIU+TDaxc 946g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.69 with SMTP id zu5mr4730899igb.23.1349567911378; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.29.137 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:58:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 16:58:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: John Gillis X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John -- My guess would be that you have the wires switched. There are two filaments in the bulb -- one has low wattage (5?) for the illuminated light such as a tail light -- the other is bright (21W?) for the flasher or brake lights. The bulb only mounts one way but if the wires are connected incorrectly you will get the result you describe. Geo On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM, John Gillis wrote: > can I throw an odd one out to the oracle; I noticed when I had my side > lights > on, I could not really see the flasher flashing, it is a double filament > bulb, > but is hardly noticeable over the side light itself. > cheers > John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 19:20:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460292D0D64 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:20:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113492D0B96 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:06:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=7iZy7R5RYdUA:10 a=Ntp3p2Vzmgd-oI7M_SIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 46/AE-15382-128C0705; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:09:05 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 17:10:13 -0700 Message-ID: <0ea401cda420$1ffdd510$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AQHNpAo9o07335fxU0W6FQlyI41bqJes93oA Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I noticed when I > had my side lights > on, I could not really see the flasher flashing, it is a > double filament bulb, > but is hardly noticeable over the side light itself. That is a sign that the fixture is wired wrong. Swap the two hot wires, so the bright filament is for turn signals and the dim filament for side light (aka parking light in the US). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 19:21:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966652D0E3A for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:21:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BCB2C0BBE for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q970TLcd013772; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:29:21 -0400 Received: from core-mhc004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.196]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 129A0E000085; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:29:21 -0400 (EDT) References: To: JGILLIS@tcd.ie, triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37058-STANDARD Received: from 69.195.56.73 by webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:29:20 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF7239EDAA7DF7-2138-EEE8@webmail-d005.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.195.56.73] Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:29:20 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349569761; bh=17+410qf/ttoetk4j4p4noxZZZ367KVTqu5HHVwro5s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Rawe2qUOxHj5fcVJ0wZ78kwSnmJwl05b4xMr49Pk9GgK99WN9eKnUcFAM8gokyli2 Vkz45ACYfrTDUVpcsjqTVdMYg16PrVhaXlnTiYT/jovIyavZk8oxLseoXZcATnHEn9 HBUz01/jUD2QMz2tgMRjpQ/ukdJkZiao/ez20RQE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:417963552:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85070cce154d9 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I suspect that the wiring is reversed, so you're seeing the brighter filament as the side lamp and the dimmer filament as the flasher. --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: John Gillis can I throw an odd one out to the oracle; I noticed when I had my side lights on, I could not really see the flasher flashing, it is a double filament bulb, but is hardly noticeable over the side light itself.iumphs/zoboherald@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 20:12:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FA32D06B1 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:12:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C14A2D0A56 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121007005538.GIIE24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:55:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 80ve1k0011bBNls050veXA; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:55:38 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=pbBtc-fAq3GhjAUnfScA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5070D30F.70106@charter.net> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:55:43 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121006-1, 10/06/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Got my clutch problems sorted out, now everything is new except the upper pipe...No air left when I bleed, etc. So I'm curious: How much should the pushrod move when I press the pedal? The car changes gear OK, but I feel that I'm right on the edge of it not working....and it doesnt' look like it moves much more than a half-inch or so. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 20:20:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC802D0CD6 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:20:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17F82D0A7D for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS17 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s9.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:11:33 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [74.111.244.194] X-EIP: [SFyKvZJ/xwE0qfJP3P+FGNfRdxWMJDxP] X-Originating-Email: [peterara@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:11:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 18:11:32 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2012 01:11:33.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0B80730:01CDA428] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 total ignition advance X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 1971 TR6, with everything connected I am running 6 degrees BTDC. I have run as much as 10 BTDC, but while it snaps at acceleration, it is harder to start. The seat of the pants method is best. Factory says advance until no ping when accelerating at full throttle in high gear from 30 mph to 50 mph. I would add that after that go out on the freeway and at about 60-65 give it full throttle. If it pings, back off a little. Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 21:21:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3462D0C5B for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:21:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8692C2D0B09 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HomePC ([unknown] [173.65.237.236]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBI0008Z1H81T60@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:29:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <2022133BE3C74224A9EDCFE753BDE9C8@HomePC> From: "Pete Ryner" To: References: <0ea401cda420$1ffdd510$0601a8c0@randall> In-reply-to: <0ea401cda420$1ffdd510$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:29:42 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3505.912 Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If not wired backwards it is certainly a bad ground. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 8:10 PM To: 'John Gillis' ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? > I noticed when I > had my side lights > on, I could not really see the flasher flashing, it is a > double filament bulb, > but is hardly noticeable over the side light itself. That is a sign that the fixture is wired wrong. Swap the two hot wires, so the bright filament is for turn signals and the dim filament for side light (aka parking light in the US). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 6 22:44:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DDA2D07A1 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 22:44:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7432D0B1A for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 21:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq4so2071343wib.2 for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:18:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hAdLCxZnZEUfoS/1UEGE7iUEh8OQKftN1pkeoJGM7w8=; b=CZMt1neBd8Ngj8yJsTRmuUvRu0XGXnNXSVCT9OYprhFdoz2JIcu8Z8TU1KlPCT3NdT q5eyYuW/6VlDrTuDTbFfiDj19+m80RErmMabOH1tZnTvu23aPEPkV9s5TNXoLzB6fXRC rJfLpngdgTSiC18Ef8CzCMB206oFnu+EFzfYodaHDLiiLuDoTR4LrUnQ986+lUfuRlkO 8PL9tCtxPRRk98m0ph/4+hdJRAstfiTxfBaOqPgHNCszrDm5VDegVWHwCxfM/UWYebp8 7B7DoZr31IlztyHx3nUXy2LgGFjQJWWF1gK00EIdT3nqpv6ewfYsD1d2ZNlhKsV9rmAB bVYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.96.164 with SMTP id dt4mr12218297wib.10.1349579892756; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2012 20:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 23:18:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Great day at Shenandoah British car show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Took the tr2 to to the Shenandoah car club show in Waynesboro, VA It was great. Wonderful weather and beautiful cars. Great group of folks. 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My control head wants to turn with the steering wheel (one way worse than the other) and I'm wondering what the solution was or is. Is it the 3 grub bolts that contact the metal plate? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 08:23:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2D92D0B1C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:23:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5B02D09D6 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 06:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so3660043pbb.14 for ; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0NMfToLEc2AgZHCwpGC/abYcw9RmgS58DVFqfVmUKYo=; b=KNoDlvhODfDT3HYGabQx6H/m6/vSCLp3NG9kN3OeG7YgtZEcc7/IoNhfyCs9bVqEsl Ur3kMu2psvwhaQnzAWVkTG479yPoeyY0aszJbubtLh9Gip3HvJMtzyUnA6XaGpP8cy3G zcRrsk4FQCVQxDxANS8ACSyOw0er+ZnV/eKkeEvr3QOh9xt4ztztUM6DOlKaPPcWk7Bz ttmABtCay/0mvOWa6wFOwfUZUekf4uHg599iJjWaVAiKnNaB3D7+AE59WbctAyjFFbb7 JOfssvOiWC+WeC/Ypru2cuQ4CLhO85CE4UCFWoi2LJw8V+ZbZFdNMyWp9Iu57rYtN6Ki +wrA== Received: by 10.66.81.231 with SMTP id d7mr35368240pay.50.1349614855746; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ka4sm9091325pbc.61.2012.10.07.06.00.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 07 Oct 2012 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50717D04.9010902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 06:00:52 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <0ea401cda420$1ffdd510$0601a8c0@randall> <2022133BE3C74224A9EDCFE753BDE9C8@HomePC> In-Reply-To: <2022133BE3C74224A9EDCFE753BDE9C8@HomePC> Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/6/12 6:29 PM, Pete Ryner wrote: > If not wired backwards it is certainly a bad ground. > Pete Not certainly. Could also be a corroded contact at the bulb/socket interface or a corroded bullet connector. There are very few certainties in life beyond death and taxes. I find it interesting that in the US when you die you are still expected to pay taxes on any income made that year prior to the moment of your death. I wonder if there are tax preparation people who are also mediums. And can the person who died deduct the price of their funeral from their taxes? TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 09:15:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670842D0A99 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:15:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D187B2D089C for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 07:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121007140222.KMTB10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:02:22 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 8E2N1k00A1bBNls05E2NoN; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:02:22 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=jbvyENaHeWkG9ueKedAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50718B74.4090003@charter.net> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 10:02:28 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121007-1, 10/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/6/2012 7:58 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > The bulb only mounts one way It's only supposed to mount one way, but I've seen plenty of folks who managed to put it in backwards. Especially easy on an old socket. I recommend that you check the bulb first before you switch the wires. --Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 11:05:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257C92D0BB9 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:05:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C8B2D0A71 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail96-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.239) by CO1EHSOBE007.bigfish.com (10.243.66.70) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:03:29 +0000 Received: from mail96-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail96-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1043BA4015A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:03:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.17.160; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx1.tcd.ie; RD:imx1.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: VPS0(zzzz1d18h1202h1d1ah1d2ahzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1155h) Received: from mail96-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail96-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1349625806866444_22464; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS019.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.237]) by mail96-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FC58C0047 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx1.tcd.ie (134.226.17.160) by CO1EHSMHS019.bigfish.com (10.243.66.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:03:26 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101AC48A5 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:03:26 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:02:51 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:01:44 +0100 Thread-Topic: turn signals? Thread-Index: AQHNpKUzZrn5tHj5JUGRWMTIhoPnJA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] turn signals? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The collective wisdom is on the button, switched wiring and all is well thank ye John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 12:51:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C462D016A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:51:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D514A2D096B for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP34 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:18:11 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [184.151.63.178] X-EIP: [bQjQ35S6mAqgdiCTn+90fSWFwUQZTyMh] X-Originating-Email: [cameronjoyce@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from CameronPC ([184.151.63.178]) by BLU0-SMTP34.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 7 Oct 2012 10:18:08 -0700 From: Cameron Joyce To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:17:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2kr6WH8pKKuVTqSZGVUfdIwzpYyw== Content-Language: en-ca X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2012 17:18:10.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[B992F360:01CDA4AF] Subject: [TR] TR3 Paint, Body & Chrome X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Engine is out of the TR3A being refreshed at R&B in Oakville, so now looking for recommendations for an LBC paint and body shop in southern Ontario. Fred at BAS recommended Rob Rhodes at H&R Restoration for the body work, but noted that he is swamped so might take longer than I'd like. Also looking for somewhere to get bits replated - Cambridge Custom Chrome is close by - does anyone have experience with them? Happy Thanksgiving Northern friends! Cameron Joyce ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 15:29:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C402D0B1A for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:29:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com (mail18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA40D2D0A25 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.18] helo=mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TKvRO-0002J0-HE for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:19:02 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TKvRO-0005k6-4W; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:19:02 -0400 Received: from webmail02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.2]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 8JK21k00202gC1E01JK2ZX; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:19:02 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=JIooSiEoymYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=yu25BC_anPWIMwwxvqwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=vyAy5DyClWQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=dv0r53mSTk2e8KAhgMvRMg==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.2 X-EN-IMPSID: 8JK21k00202gC1E01JK2ZX Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail02.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TKvR7-0001Yf-U6; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:18:46 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:18:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1349614338.82699.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1349614338.82699.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:18:45 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] control head issues X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, the control head is held from turning by the stator tube that engages the extension of the control head going all the way to the steering box where it is clamped by a compresion fitting. Watch the stator tube that sticks out about an inch from the steering box and has the control wires exiting. If it turns with the steering wheel, the compression fitting is loose. If it remains stationary, the tube may be broken. The three grub screws clamp the rotating part of the control head to the steering wheel to cancel at the straight ahead position. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Sorry to bring this up again since I remember there was a thread some time > back about it which I ignored. My control head wants to turn with the > steering wheel (one way worse than the other) and I'm wondering what the > solution was or is. Is it the 3 grub bolts that contact the metal plate? > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 16:35:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C7F2D08CF for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:35:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C3D2C0C19 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:51:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Kh81k0010mlR8UA6KugAa; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:54:40 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Kue1k00J4L5TyG8XKuflh; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:54:39 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:54:38 -0600 References: <1D81B5EC-09E6-48FF-BFF0-180C47E8D060@comcast.net> <8B2F5CF2CE4D4808B62BF5BB150418A1@triumph> <6717F4FE-32BF-4D93-B3B7-10A150E8B54B@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Got the relay on and the OD works as it should. As always I learned a lot from list contributors. Thanks to all. Now that I have that issue licked hopefully, It's on to Galveston for VTR. Thanks Bud > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 16:44:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11242D0CCE for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:44:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AE362D08E4 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 14:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 20:01:52 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.105] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 20:01:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 20:01:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 535059.71841.bm@omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26318 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2012 20:01:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=U+zdD8XyKTN/9uY+NRZ+aUabYf6c/F28QlcDPAx2yFhEdmaeVUgoBmuOibX1tTIq8K8rB5dL/tWs6AFR/cQLwBl+W3th8ATU/AgKR7Vtzr+6XEduO6HZ7grU5r8XmIG/c8MoV+l69ZRNBHx26hGNfPYvpJz03m/KE16jUEFCdGY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1349640112; bh=V6urJa6cTQ5iwQrT4MicirZ1/QsWT7GCjms6DeVAMEo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=tUxIAKv62hCUS7eo8rS1bXTqWgL8jCnZeTwQxKdU3dVioSTR/ZQyLQ4BiGnEcjx0+gZ2oUQw3USnxtV1ajsqteJB25F1P8NrQ0cB/WDPdB1WXE9O8stiIag25ORvupeVK+gicZ9YaGYFizTaGcRYD3atlbuMoAeVdhFLiKNwj1U= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6DmyXk4VM1nn.bek8Q4YYLzwtYjZqHVAfZMo6t2NzA7GIBm 1FlaC.XXgWl2KXynHy4BshnXOStZTL9HLe5Tbl1DPuAUlCVRppDqsEUalqmQ 8YUn_3iFy_Qg19qjVFsjXGHApw1LF64gEorSROrCiZeU4q_Zm9rPYapSQaER aUrm.nJZOndj0pPYC0Z5F6RB4L_zGCd_8rqh5vV8tGiiWItXZDX5EKS7dfFo MWEPXexs9ZkiHKMRBeQthq5jIRFdxmpeUhilZLSO6oWnXCAcyKCfxr6zMVBB ba4.FPy11xYxh_FYAvHRS9mLI.njQjXPNhmNALAzy0hBbaapaNMSxsjlDeT3 ns_aPsNtUYY0M_n0KCt_.Buk6jMeCW7lgiP7TN18ypfiTfxEiPuu7_EQeacP q4Gx3W9AfH2Y.Ya.WCDbQWo6IFwvgws4QJYpjlxjjYATpGmF21sLSp7ZV7IO 82WVg6eihFphTT7mp4ZJr9P9MZDhQthsyLj7s9Go_bQsjaFYycPQzlXkqH4k oOdllkqBo9OjKQf7_hg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Oct 2012 13:01:52 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1349614338.82699.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:01:41 -0500 Message-ID: <740672DFCBDD46479451D02300C73F67@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1349614338.82699.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2kkM8TgkucMDqTReC2BtkB9RoK1QANXwAQ Subject: Re: [TR] control head issues X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For me, it's the nut & olive at the end of the stator tube that keep the head from turning. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Nafziger Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:52 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] control head issues Sorry to bring this up again since I remember there was a thread some time back about it which I ignored. My control head wants to turn with the steering wheel (one way worse than the other) and I'm wondering what the solution was or is. Is it the 3 grub bolts that contact the metal plate? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 17:49:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6C92D0336 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 17:49:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBBC2D0976 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 8MzR1k00353lu5001MzXBW; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 14:59:31 -0700 Message-ID: <230FB850D7494D29A570CE88778C6715@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: <8502536.1873523.1349449130883.JavaMail.root@vznit170134><506FA917.5020404@gmail.com> <6C70D3B055024AA291092441DB9EFA77@DaveLaptop> In-Reply-To: <6C70D3B055024AA291092441DB9EFA77@DaveLaptop> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:55:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think chrysler did, too. I had one of those cars where the clearcoat peeled off. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Connitt Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:55 PM To: TeriAnn J. Wakeman ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Feelings about paint types TeriAnn, I think what you are referring to is from a few years ago when the car makers were experimenting with water based paint systems. Chrysler and GM had huge issues with clear coat deterioation. My neighbor 2 doors up has a Dodge mini-van (about 15 years old) that is real bad. I don't think you see it too much anymore but is sure is ugly.. Dave Connitt '67 TR4A Finally painted! Saving for a wire harness http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 7 18:02:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0522D0631 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:02:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB81F2D06D0 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q97MWVHF007616 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:32:31 -0400 Received: from core-mob002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.197]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D0848E000091 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:32:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <53b19.278916dd.3da35cfd@cs.com> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 18:32:30 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349649151; bh=r8H8e3ei2E0NG6LbQU2f41xsQnaEB2S3PeDIIZR+v/8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hlsNb2iW6hrwv9c8RqS9hjew3Y9oRpr0ZWmLX0FQpyhFipW+R5enMRQH8SwmEW6Gs 7BE0nW6yP1CLX2glKeHLMNNquWPahqezRfuN++GcciOyw0Sk+sr95MlOgHdGU6JtgF yiX0D6qMVNHkIfTZALoltd6PIlqOLrHViA0W1hPU= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:406833952:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b507202fe7adb X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What car? The TR6 is notorious for clutch engagement. Changing clutch cross shaft lever holes can help. A larger diameter master cylinder or a smaller slave cylinder diameter can also help. Dave In a message dated 10/6/2012 9:15:46 PM Central Daylight Time, fishplate@charter.net writes: > Got my clutch problems sorted out, now everything is new except the > upper pipe...No air left when I bleed, etc. > > So I'm curious: How much should the pushrod move when I press the > pedal? The car changes gear OK, but I feel that I'm right on the edge > of it not working....and it doesnt' look like it moves much more than a > half-inch or so. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 06:00:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7732D07F0 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:00:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468792D07E6 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 05:58:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=DpzLNs9rhA8A:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fNvf3QQsEjcCOo2OjocA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:44257] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 41/F1-17657-8A0C2705; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:01:44 +0000 Message-ID: <5072C0AD.9020705@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 08:01:49 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave1massey@cs.com References: <53b19.278916dd.3da35cfd@cs.com> In-Reply-To: <53b19.278916dd.3da35cfd@cs.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, I have to agree. I just switched rides from my 72 6 to my 63 4 and the first time out last Friday, I thought my clutch on the 4 was too soft. But I checked it out on a short drive around the block and everything was fine. Fluid level was fine and so was the operation. It was just I was used to the much harder pedal on the 6. Now on the 3, it is even better. I know the 3 and 4 have the same pressure plate and slave but I think the MC must be a bigger diameter than on the 3. I have to say, the clutch operation on the 3 is the best of the 3 Triumphs I own. All engage at the same spot, just that all 3 require different amounts of force from my foot! Bob On 10/07/2012 06:32 PM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > What car? The TR6 is notorious for clutch engagement. Changing clutch > cross shaft lever holes can help. A larger diameter master cylinder or a > smaller slave cylinder diameter can also help. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/6/2012 9:15:46 PM Central Daylight Time, > fishplate@charter.net writes: >> Got my clutch problems sorted out, now everything is new except the >> upper pipe...No air left when I bleed, etc. >> >> So I'm curious: How much should the pushrod move when I press the >> pedal? The car changes gear OK, but I feel that I'm right on the edge >> of it not working....and it doesnt' look like it moves much more than a >> half-inch or so. > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 06:31:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B322D07F1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:31:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312A92D07E8 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 06:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EA77F38000107 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C904DE00008E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:34:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Message-ID: <221c0.6360b23d.3da4224b@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:34:19 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349699659; bh=yOmFMdU/1ICFTFK2SwGdZ/SB1EWIynao7fYl59Y/sms=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kiLZRSVKDFDfmCnUm1rl87KcshsR/KB+A9Fdych75XClSTpPbjpbGjtdQp/b49NpH wsDYS9LGbRWrLmuo0qGsqILrbBVaWIE9AS53YUbhcAD06vinT18IaPHflgTJH5w4Zc 7hPtzeihTa3NOQYmn3Tzzsqwija/oFapHdle8StQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:449647424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5072c84b7250 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So, what was the problem? Dave (Dying to know) In a message dated 10/7/2012 5:38:46 PM Central Daylight Time, levilevi@comcast.net writes: > Got the relay on and the OD works as it should. As always I learned a > lot from list contributors. Thanks to all. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 08:39:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0D52D0787 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:39:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8058D2D0784 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so5439351vcb.14 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gOkHKn0bIOfs8r8Skfk5pzHzLd5YPfU77jfT25Df7ZU=; b=VZldH8NsAgLLu8DOOCVZVpPXogp5Vq4qnC9eKLNThs4xGDyuR5NUTrLxRRGzUeoPcp 0qa27mlLHI0QashfOE11Yc+iJ2FQRSNy7y+nKjdpQ0EVA64oV91LGnTIHiG9jsYY7bEo DVhS2kpK1a/n4yMMV8o0spAzO65BCaMtvDqODwHuEyMLJjMCRpLBYEV3oabK70EeO4IO NN1ahZ6uMJVUJjoVukcecVuAacSgUxhgfWEMVm/dSuWBPEiTWB1LMpUfGqR3zGFk5oWa v/bJN/ekzvfo0m1PDw6nNDtcDAfTw7FoyiVMIf82+jBE8NjQ9ECKuC/og6mMhzRRAMtl qKaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.29.141 with SMTP id k13mr7344970vdh.131.1349707334891; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.232.6 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:42:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Regards, Roy -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 08:52:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76CA2D07E3 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:52:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BAB982D07BC for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 08:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 14:55:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.174] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 14:55:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2012 14:55:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 609065.40931.bm@omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78579 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2012 14:55:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349708141; bh=tMl0pR3mfRagqyYdDxpVdsutyuMf+6PoyjH2HI6bBRo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3gUtHy8RZtihcA69gZ4CWUS8mU8E0BOOm/zkCPAMW6qc+WpcGIYXrkSyRh6iynRhlZhWF6j7TMkS4avfhO76sIDzci5FuDi0rmQTP1D87e3Uaatq0uSzke+OoaYnz6ZwXolpqErJkyApHrYL+MiWy7yUIyZ0hOVUEbp1MrU7P3I= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LHTFZNAcwnXZxvKGHJqs6A+OPR1JqNJYcQMLWIbkL975qFtQn155dtviOOU70fguN4TB9QtFngvZXhK77Oh/D7VzW+/cJl7Ne1sA7umnNmASOL4jY4qSKnY7FdLEi4C8D8SWuKCawC6tZjBvVohV5nxvCgji2IjvfJuafcouTxQ=; X-YMail-OSG: ywCDDTEVM1lU2bAFSwTbMkR6ry56_h7aWeJpSKCnH.3qM3s bcOpnLG8kwkKgfTn32Sfk8MQqUXEN2OC2iMyE6mYS3oMKN2EcQxLDRF54oMX ZZuGhr6vufAqZdUnU6DQLOhSE2KxDEnYU1y5N_zGU7q6nUpaGx1oL8AWjTAt tPCWTSw5wFEqjFvvuzZoyU6c9_Ro.ZSYTNe8beqQps1_ikNrkEu4eETcsOUM vSFU2zEu5CZhunRF4Ym6Zy66rLw1gc96L1tarjtiAp88CcSNWuEMqp8OLONZ t3_E6PS0537n1Q0hySm6hsAT66HmFNZCyoWxj.Kz9crjrqBoiwxf5OPQs9x_ GJq9V8BRbsxa.T6HlfAIpEtkyKaDlWkkPjI_N7h.VlqIrGVUxFNr_iX9YGvT qoHxWKT5d1fUoYR_h6VgSeakPQS3_VgcrEY45rfkhlXz55DmXP53tNAD9n7s R2x7hTfh4lW08xNOMje8YgiSqagavObZOuHXwKm0xpa2bzGopnoAuaTmt2C_ lLs_9Q8X0Pw-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:55:41 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, anVzdCBmb3IgZnVuLCBpIGRpZCBzb21lIGxlYWQgd29yayB3aGVuIGkgd2FzIHJlc3RvcmluZyBteSBUUjMuCmkgd291bGQgbm90IHN1Z2dlc3QgaXTCoGZvciB3aG9sZSBwcm9qZWN0IHVzZS4gaXRzIHJlYWxseSB0b3VnaCB0byBkby4KcmVtZW1iZXIgeW91IG11c3QgZ2V0IHJpZCBvZiB0aGUgcnVzdCwgdW5sZXNzIGl0cyBqdXN0IGEgc3VyZmFjZSBzY3JhcGUgdGhlbiB5b3UgY2FuIHVzZSBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIGJldHRlciBydXN0IGNvbnZlcnRlcnMuIGJ1dCBpIHByZWZlciBncmluZGluZyBpdCBvdXQgdGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: Message-ID: <1349708141.70665.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Sujit Roy , Triumphs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net just for fun, i did some lead work when i was restoring my TR3. i would not suggest it for whole project use. its really tough to do. remember you must get rid of the rust, unless its just a surface scrape then you can use one of the better rust converters. but i prefer grinding it out till its all gone. Frank From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 7:42 AM Subject: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? Regards, Roy -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 09:21:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9222D077F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:21:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5232D0777 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:20:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121008152313.SOG24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:23:13 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 8fPC1k00M1bBNls05fPCTd; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:23:13 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fNvf3QQsEjcCOo2OjocA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5072EFE6.5050106@charter.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 11:23:18 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <53b19.278916dd.3da35cfd@cs.com> In-Reply-To: <53b19.278916dd.3da35cfd@cs.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121008-0, 10/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/7/2012 6:32 PM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > What car? Sorry, I left that out: 75 TR6 > The TR6 is notorious for clutch engagement. Yeah, that's what makes me think this is normal. I just wanted a data point to compare it. Given a stock setup with new components, the pushrod should move a certain amount... > Changing clutch > cross shaft lever holes can help. A larger diameter master cylinder or a > smaller slave cylinder diameter can also help. So far, I'm not sure there's a problem. Drove 10 miles or so, and only missed one downshift. Could have been me, I suppose. The car shifts fine, otherwise. It's just that, with the trans tunnel off, I can see that the lever doesn't move a whole lot. Of course, when you think about it, the brakes really don't move a whole lot either, and they manage to get the job done. So maybe I'm thinking too much. That's happened before... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/6/2012 9:15:46 PM Central Daylight Time, > fishplate@charter.net writes: >> Got my clutch problems sorted out, now everything is new except the >> upper pipe...No air left when I bleed, etc. >> >> So I'm curious: How much should the pushrod move when I press the >> pedal? The car changes gear OK, but I feel that I'm right on the edge >> of it not working....and it doesnt' look like it moves much more than a >> half-inch or so. > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 09:37:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537132D080E for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:37:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6130D2D0788 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8eTT1k0040b6N64AAfbEq6; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:35:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.95] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8fbC1k00v4L5TyG8PfbD43; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:35:14 +0000 Message-Id: <62CCFF3A-5D05-4BE8-AA39-D1D5782EF896@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: Dave1massey@cs.com In-Reply-To: <221c0.6360b23d.3da4224b@cs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:35:09 -0600 References: <221c0.6360b23d.3da4224b@cs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The relay was bad. Bud 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 8, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > So, what was the problem? > > Dave (Dying to know) > > In a message dated 10/7/2012 5:38:46 PM Central Daylight Time, > levilevi@comcast.net writes: >> Got the relay on and the OD works as it should. As always I learned a >> lot from list contributors. Thanks to all. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 11:13:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69432D0840 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:13:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32492D0842 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q98H7J4u013544; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:07:19 -0400 Received: from core-mod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6AB36E0000B4; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <28b04.58ccf124.3da46244@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:07:16 -0400 (EDT) To: fishplate@charter.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349716038; bh=B7ubqUppv+P6eviTYc1l7GY0weGrDykkRI+/ICvx3Uk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=otu5EtoTnFaUtjxH/3K/3pwze38X2NbovGU57laMxdEqQISZoAm8flXa5fHGce8P9 TTFnFLSnEXlrE0OoZ2VdVmVKKrHjOIIJRtEYRJsWIhpl/WYx7QOIbkJq8saZRoD/gZ Dp46/mHg04yPJYuNGANcqDOkFd7g8xRbqMpsuet4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:409897600:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290950730845097a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I noticed the same thing but I have never measured it so I can't tell you what is "normal." I'm not sure any of us can tell what is "normal." Dave In a message dated 10/8/2012 10:24:25 AM Central Daylight Time, fishplate@charter.net writes: > So far, I'm not sure there's a problem. Drove 10 miles or so, and only > missed one downshift. Could have been me, I suppose. The car shifts > fine, otherwise. It's just that, with the trans tunnel off, I can see > that the lever doesn't move a whole lot. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 11:14:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3442D0840 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:14:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402162D0842 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q98H8isq002910; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:08:54 -0400 Received: from core-mod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3E165E000085; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <28bcc.25492400.3da462a6@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 13:08:54 -0400 (EDT) To: levilevi@comcast.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349716134; bh=RgZocwEqHnI7lyXpgNdyUs0mKKHPJxC2ONBThlYNeqA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=feRjc9bt16uJVf29b1GykHxl3VEy6j7N2CNR9b3R0DB0rYHFZItr46aZXuGOOYNFO j2uVSJjas5s4lNLruebCQK7/cA8agE5kcV4hBG9gjOgAmf17jqJ5Rhg172uxBcR86+ SHERCbM9jnUYsCpKCPrtx+lzuq9c/hJZ80u8lkL8= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:434249280:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b507308a61091 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll be darned. I guess the contacts burned up. Thanks for the update. Enjoy VTR. Dave In a message dated 10/8/2012 10:35:15 AM Central Daylight Time, levilevi@comcast.net writes: > The relay was bad. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 11:57:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3E92D0844 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:57:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5569B2D0842 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 11:56:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 173-109-207-216.pools.spcsdns.net ([173.109.207.216] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TLHc2-0000Ab-3r for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: <5073147D.9090604@wi.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:59:25 -0500 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR7 help X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I've been lurking a bit and now a friend needs some help with a TR7. The front suspension top mounts for the strut towers and gone and we're looking for replacement panels. Anyone have a source. The usual suspects have nothing. VB tantalizes with a picture but apparently not available. Any assistance is welcome. TIA, Dave W. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 14:32:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962EC2D0842 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:32:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5228A2D07ED for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=EWEpLlsG3lQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=7EJDiYKGR-UA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=uXfXsFayAAAA:20 a=Zv1SSzQJO7itF__2qHoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:65083] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 02/2D-28917-6E733705; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:30:30 +0000 Message-ID: <20121008203030.5TOWL.147830.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:30:30 -0400 From: Randall To: levilevi@comcast.net, Dave1massey@cs.com In-Reply-To: <28bcc.25492400.3da462a6@cs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > I'll be darned. I guess the contacts burned up. FWIW I had that problem several times, until I added a diode snubber. My theory is that the original relay had oversize and/or precious metal contacts, to deal with the arcing caused by kickback from the solenoid; but the replacements I tried did not. At any rate, I had two reproduction relays and a Bosch general purpose relay all quit working reliably within less than a year of daily driving. After adding the diode, even the "cheap chinese" general purpose relay is still working fine many years later. http://tinyurl.com/2dcppeo --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 14:33:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF422D019F for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:33:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124212D0840 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DpzLNs9rhA8A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=IxGTgD47rRAiKQPrh4kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:65132] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id CD/99-11767-D9833705; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:33:33 +0000 Message-ID: <20121008203333.RY0F9.147851.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:33:33 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Jeff In-Reply-To: <5072EFE6.5050106@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch movement X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Jeff wrote: > It's just that, with the trans tunnel off, I can see > that the lever doesn't move a whole lot. ISTR that one of the Buckeye articles gives the "normal" movement as about 5/8" at the clevis pin. The only time I measured it on my TR3A, that was about right. (My problem proved to be a broken taper pin.) Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 15:03:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2E42D0657 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:03:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7543E2D0755 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.12.113]) by m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id 8kyG1k00D2SLqSE01kyJrT; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:58:19 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Sujit Roy'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 16:58:17 -0400 Message-ID: <004201cda597$a5a12aa0$f0e37fe0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJiIjA4rRJkHrfAvrVrD9oa7wSA25aG6bCQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Depends what you mean by rusty spots: if they are holes, they should ideally be welded, fiberglass as an alternative. If you are just talking about the dimpling you get with age, bondo is fine. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sujit Roy Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:42 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? Regards, Roy -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 15:03:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456422D0656 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:03:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183D12D0755 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so12420684ied.14 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:05:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SWphzuZEuMfesfkKTKJ3Kobhevr7S7q2Mqt9gTh3AIY=; b=wqMZJsg4w4UEqRqkGlz/m3sjDWEodcVYa+2lDMlITatpik6ZQ1EDM8aw/TmkypoZNA WtWOEYx13lvgzGdiliOs6i2YqaVRPC0H0scT1+bjfyU+gpWkB0eNKTia7KySXPotx3lB 8Ly7m+Si5ulR3btkgDE29NnvbaQPnMrFf1LNxHkdVXYhKabFjzT5ENLLWBexI93TFiih w3mMFWcN8E8QJDBJrNj4mB8rxWbQeMfrZMtVcxcNfZLRd8EQYg2up0mYKzqEZU9Mz0cz 10QRW2oAbjaO3Rkwpi4wKLzMtkXBcdb6f7YeRMnElOJYjFUKJggmxTCGJCQ2fiRPcK6L JDUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.161.232 with SMTP id xv8mr9726535igb.22.1349730334966; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 14:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.29.137 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:05:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121008203030.5TOWL.147830.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> References: <28bcc.25492400.3da462a6@cs.com> <20121008203030.5TOWL.147830.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:05:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Randall wrote: > ---- Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > > I'll be darned. I guess the contacts burned up. > > ...I added a diode snubber... > Me too. I added it thusly (positive ground shown, diode polarity would be the other way on negative ground): http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/OD%20Diode.JPG The diode I used (though it certainly didn't have to be this one): http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc499/Ahwahnee18/TR4/ODDiode-2.jpg There is an extra male terminal on the original style relay, else a 2-into-1 as seen in Randall's pic will suit. 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What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net U had real good results ( after practicing..) using a hammer and dolly and a shrinking disc I bought off of Ebay. No filler at all. Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 17:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA02D07A5 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:53:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4292D0768 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 17:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=mAp6dly7mdYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=aUKBB25O4HQA:10 a=0EYD-srhpVNFArPCmL8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:35570] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9C/25-28917-12763705; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:52:01 +0000 Message-ID: <20121008235201.73JF6.149047.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:52:01 -0400 From: Randall To: Triumphs , Sujit Roy In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm curious, what's wrong with Bondo? As far as I know, used according to directions, it works very well. The problems arise mostly when people try to glop it on too thick or fill large holes. Ideally it should not be more than 1/8" thick. Of course you have to get _all_ the rust out first or it will just come back. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 18:08:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E182D06D2 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:08:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297552D0788 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:05:43 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=N+2r5hBB c=1 sm=0 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=4E7jQOIzGKAA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=aUKBB25O4HQA:10 a=jEHqui3DzTdooIrCRsUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=E898X4nwNZLgWu9MSscA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=gvfBO2VpoByw3OXV:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50098] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id F1/0B-11114-81B63705; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:08:56 -0400 Message-ID: <565671349C58479D8917986DD4601166@DaveLaptop> From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:15:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Bondo substitute. What are fellow Triumph owners using to fill small rusty spots? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, My mistake, I only read what I wanted to see.. The shrinking disc is used to remove dents. not rust.. Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 18:58:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56252D0707 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:58:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6C12D0706 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 18:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9911TF4025646 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:01:29 -0400 Received: from core-moa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 279F8E00008C for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <28578.46ad1094.3da4d168@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:01:29 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349744489; bh=EloOtTxqPGRgD70c33+8ocip6ZB5ZhTrEwL1KraPKWU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fSSHrBhJo8vs2s3Zk5C7DVc7aEhlvoJB+NA1y6qaxm6TZkWAB7e1nXTBIxJr9VzTg VUDDKA/rS/V+Pa8MByvrNygKFohbex6eRPWHSybljWwGgOKpH6VjN8pww+D9XZIKwD IU+6TfaYV4wfxt3Gd3R4MVIWyvnCuMVlxpBbqylk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:460941056:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909507377697d3b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Update: A type overdrive solenoid problem? On to Galveston for VTR. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget to swap the diode around if you change polarities. Dave In a message dated 10/8/2012 3:30:30 PM Central Daylight Time, tr3driver@ca.rr.com writes: > FWIW I had that problem several times, until I added a diode snubber. My > theory is that the original relay had oversize and/or precious metal > contacts, to deal with the arcing caused by kickback from the solenoid; but the > replacements I tried did not. At any rate, I had two reproduction relays > and a Bosch general purpose relay all quit working reliably within less than > a year of daily driving. After adding the diode, even the "cheap chinese" > general purpose relay is still working fine many years later. > > http://tinyurl.com/2dcppeo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 8 20:47:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EAA2D0794 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:47:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC612D0794 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 20:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so3104377lag.14 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:50:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qwGE/PWgC8E9Lps9gLNbAWpj5611JBLzXPDEtD6PWcs=; b=WhKTpQI10lRaHBBH5QhjV6yaM/L+5QgtWzEPte/ohBsmX1jLSkswpz0+Dg2iSTDUUY JDR0rgO3QqVgY00j7uf0YuSpP+zXG8U1GUzzLQ0fQfMmfrKBQxA6Id++VrJ0lOfs39+A ZOaurf11XnNP7EruePmcIL5o2PmqIwKrJ6TIQvz6xMoH2/4x9UBSYLY8CmsHqEzRqNYd eeKw64vQ5vTpcRRjiP+un+t14CE/7dhgLrtQcfg1zh9Hz2LX2D+0FpQVBDI9gbWNCawg mIkLQz05QKJkAORCQGC6pEl27sIha2Zj0QhJPWpKw1jYXJnBx+j0LOSmAbVUL3jivo0U sWDA== Received: by 10.152.110.229 with SMTP id id5mr15377291lab.36.1349751032505; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:50:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:50:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:50:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] BBC 4 - Timeshift - The Golden Age Of British Sports Cars X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cross-posted from the TR Register Forum. http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37497 Well worth viewing. The BBC iPlayer programs are only available for viewing in the UK. Some video is on YouTube for now giving an idea of the progam -- see post 7 in the thread above for embedded links for the whole program broken into smaller bits. But look quick... no telling how long it will be active. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV1ceBBtJw&feature=player_embedded Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDNk4nVjdM&feature=player_embedded Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZWl6XHwCQo&feature=player_embedded Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 08:10:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4522D034B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:10:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AB22D033D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:10:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k6so4322013lbo.14 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=nlqht526LGGegrh52vhq29XY4bSJBlFlm5B53HnMjNw=; b=Ra1vkl0yZc1wda+n7qih61uwxG6IQ9znMIKTHv8vHfJEnmZ1jKHIs25vhnbSPLydcX ekxl4UFzIBoAFtc6s83qHnx5CcO/zR9NnyRbAVc9o5QhlJmAP/J1hMjN5PKFt1JIoRiQ /rIFxm1o4bFWNyG2D1qkyDZ5gRn7giwvHGGpg8Uvs6JZKJowx2DLF+0Ra7BGQGTFJwiF ybCm+b5W6jjhXtu1aQnJn4Gb1tSNJKqtR1+6msl5HvZifquL7QzNoCLgt6Cj1aYq4R+J oBNL5x6lDxU8YVaVqr70c/P5XxxSBKN48fo3SyIN45nfRvxjiyhxoiUyHaRBpEcVVhKJ hEXg== Received: by 10.152.106.162 with SMTP id gv2mr16470038lab.14.1349792043956; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:14:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Don Hiscock Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:13:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] BBC 4 - Timeshift - The Golden Age Of British Sports Cars X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And here's the last part: Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cY44nAJLb34 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Cross-posted from the TR Register Forum. > http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37497 > > Well worth viewing. The BBC iPlayer programs are only available for > viewing in the UK. Some video is on YouTube for now giving an idea of the > progam -- see post 7 in the thread above for embedded links for the whole > program broken into smaller bits. But look quick... no telling how long it > will be active. > > Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV1ceBBtJw&feature=player_embedded > Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDNk4nVjdM&feature=player_embedded > Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZWl6XHwCQo&feature=player_embedded > > Don > 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 13:56:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7019C2D01B6 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:56:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198752D014E for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:55:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2012 15:58:36 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAA60796; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:58:36 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="postmaster@[192.168.1.146]"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 64-121-239-224.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.146]) ([64.121.239.224]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2012 15:58:36 -0400 Message-Id: From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:58:34 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone used the 89mm piston and liner set? (available from Moss and BPNW) It would be for a "street" engine and the improved piston design and made in the UK is what interests me more than the additional 2mm. It's cheaper now than a year or two ago, but still around 2x the standard 87mm set of unknown origin. (anyone know where these are coming from these days?) Any other opinions on engine parts appreciated. Allen TR4 Bethlehem, PA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 15:19:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05332D01A6 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:19:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9ED2C0CE3 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:19:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=e+uEuNV/ c=1 sm=0 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:17 a=xkgW_vOJTMkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=UeVQ8U_mzjUA:10 a=-q_357SdKLlnUXh60aQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=zJBrfBrijurwRjtId8AA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=BBszhfXcAHZHu7LR:21 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.69.175 Received: from [72.130.69.175] ([72.130.69.175:23063] helo=Lambert1) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 11/34-01253-09594705; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:22:24 +0000 From: "D&B Lambert" To: References: <865a.3eb37fbd.3d9bb105@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <865a.3eb37fbd.3d9bb105@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:22:06 -0700 Message-ID: <443B1B7212FA4AFD83651D20D9CC0964@Lambert1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2gSQfyW0yK2CpKQ/CirU8YxKJNpQGGROdA X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3A Overheating - Outcome X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you to all who responded to my TR3A overheating question of a couple of weeks ago. FWIW, here is what happened. After calling around a bit, I took my radiator down to a local shop. The guy took some time explaining to me about the different types of cores, cooling tube arrangements, etc. He suggested that we just "boil out" the rad and see if/how much flow improved. He didn't recommend "rodding" because he felt that it would just stress the tubes and possibly cause leaks with a radiator this old. The cost for boiling out was $60 vs $480 for a new "high efficiency" re-core. I chose the cheaper route. I'll see if I get any cooling improvement when it's back in the car and running in the heat, and at prolonged idle. If not, it's a re-core before next year's heat. The "boil-out" did result in noticeably improved flow, so I'm cautiously optimistic. We'll see. Thanks again, Dennis I'm imagining that the radiator must be getting crudded up. It's an original radiator, still with the crank hole, and was rodded about 10 years ago. I'm thinking it's finally time to replace it. My choices are: 1) getting the original re-rodded, 2) having a local radiator shop install a modern core, or 3) buying a new aluminum radiator from one of the big three. Keeping the crank hole is not important for me; the only use I have had for it was to use the crank when adjusting the valves (for that it's pretty handy). ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 16:38:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1292D0167 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:38:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699E72C0CAB for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=3xqQaxqrYkQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=P8LdMUG616IA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=PXntaWu5eMxiZYZuwv4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9Bg8SWwkULMA:10 a=YSteQVJ9Qy0f_iEF:21 a=_kjPMKK1Hznz_Cdk:21 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:53123] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9E/C4-21565-408A4705; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 22:41:08 +0000 Message-ID: <20121009224108.7RO97.154462.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:41:08 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Allen Hess In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Allen Hess wrote: > Has anyone used the 89mm piston and liner set? (available from Moss > and BPNW) It would be for a "street" engine and the improved piston > design and made in the UK I haven't installed mine yet, but it sounds like maybe you have a different set than I do. Do Moss & BPNW really claim they are made in the UK? I got mine from BFE (who didn't recommend them for street use) and AFAIK all the components were made right here in the USA. Deves piston rings, Venolia pistons, and custom liners by LA Sleeve. I don't recall if Ken said where the gaskets came from, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by GasketWorks. These are all very well respected companies, practically legendary in the high performance engine parts business. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 16:50:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B812D0167 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:50:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx0b-00121c01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00121c01.pphosted.com [67.231.153.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3A52C0D2D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:50:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0002344 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00121c01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id q99MqjHT021258 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:54:07 -0400 Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx0b-00121c01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 17ugb4u3f6-1 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:54:07 -0400 X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43eb9aab) id dm0206.506e628d.11bf879 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 15:54:06 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQNqwPlQdKsO1ZmXMQIAAAAB,8ad7e9ebbe386245e5ebc86c22dae38b X-Originating-Ip: 67.235.154.171 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Robert Jones In-Reply-To: <20121009224108.7RO97.154462.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:54:05 -0500 Message-Id: <63617F9F-C508-4AF1-998E-DF0C15544FE4@wfeca.net> References: <20121009224108.7RO97.154462.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-09_07:2012-10-09,2012-10-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210090301 Subject: [TR] A/C X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All Need some advice on A/C. Took my TR8 to a shop for replacement of Compressor, Dryer and Expansion Valve. A/C was cooling but compressor was making noise. The shop mechanic (?) installed the compressor and dryer but while trying to install the new expansion valve twisted the nut connecting the condenser off and bent the copper tubing. Needless to say I brought home a wounded car. This was in March. The car has been stored since in the closed garage. i undertook to fix it last week. Expansion valve very hard to get to, especially trying to repair connection. Found the mechanic had left the condenser line open. I have purchased a line repair connection and trimmed the twisted line and now I am ready to install a new expansion valve.I am now looking at flushing the system, evac the lines and filling with freon. I have a new dryer also as the previous new one was left open. Question: Should the expansion valve be installed before flushing? Is flushing worth it? If so, any recommended solvent? Wouldn't the new dryer be installed after flushing and before evac and filling with freon? Thanks for the help. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 17:02:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C6B2C0D44 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:02:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0272D014E for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 16:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp3UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=3xqQaxqrYkQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=P8LdMUG616IA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=PXntaWu5eMxiZYZuwv4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9Bg8SWwkULMA:10 a=IYxvHZ27rsX3V7sU:21 a=ThDkFgZk9879MEA6:21 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:53432] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 67/52-11677-61DA4705; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <20121009230246.8Z11S.154580.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:02:46 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Allen Hess In-Reply-To: <20121009184250.26277ovp3zi9asyi@webmail.ldpart.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Allen Hess wrote: > Has anyone used the 89mm piston and liner set? (available from Moss > and BPNW) It would be for a "street" engine and the improved piston > design and made in the UK I haven't installed mine yet, but it sounds like maybe you have a different set than I do. Do Moss & BPNW really claim they are made in the UK? I got mine from BFE (who didn't recommend them for street use) and AFAIK all the components were made right here in the USA. Deves piston rings, Venolia pistons, and custom liners by LA Sleeve. I don't recall if Ken said where the gaskets came from, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by GasketWorks. These are all very well respected companies, practically legendary in the high performance engine parts business. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 18:20:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD19A2D0191 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:20:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308232D0137 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.193] by nm4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 00:23:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.161] by tm6.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 00:23:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 00:23:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 959026.45525.bm@omp1044.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33772 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2012 00:23:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=sqYPz46cpMvRfHrfgIZCht1DAM5KTIczytdqlfKexEPZSJoOAFYd7Ch4o9B3sMbVxbXIMGo6/OR0K7t1KWabk+s3JU67VFgJ+vVeX/P2IiUwsMUAPfkpR5ir4Tl9QcXbrU23zYhwfHY6tWrpSo+m9Rdk0HX5IGQqinK1sojsB8U= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349828590; bh=U89l+/47HXjvQ2CdcKsCKIIFA4dA69TNPVBHniBOLVE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=IjuzVac5hLbdVaRoF1WO0rP3Y3uJL9legdAfl8hrvtVq7hNi04YxXWzl47o56J87V6r7bGszmhFaUsn1g4S+21i9QoDjKT5O4rvTo8mB0HTpVcyyEz0pGfQqoNyhD+pwLZemKmpIgN1fsZrWOBhxh2f89fnT6N5qi7oLgUQfNHc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: dkEZd.EVM1mKuKF7gEBE_z1tfQX_YMmCm2cVebMC8UwNbsv _zqzSOPB2xQxEygiJf.._Gu0Mw8ZsDGjv7MmxmCMLp13rIWsLD6IPelHt1w5 esa0Urbjf6NAuiCDX6v_dcSymVxj.eKzQIS38GMaAh38nNR3qNbpUu.8KFbU hi4Pgchu2sUgNTEU8nrGdTcMI_RuVThvaGkdbMhHtg7qw_fYEKIk3evCQLf5 bfBJ6X0r12xgLbD7f_7owZjHDd5ig3FEjBZXtkrOYvmb.ATKQu77ccsWjtC9 Erqmmy9LF_Q4wqGB5AFzBFE6up6pjbleSMDXUq7skRVLL6DVEMgO1r8FRE3b X.9Nxr3ROP5_y2sDnI3lrMbxj301BvkRKHbiIIJy9B4IH1glsBFl.dEul.cx X5pRFo0KkMN3XpNMl5.I0Y_CLGjgUtVXjQuzOf0YjjtL0AillbxF9THE1KFK I49_XUgPhHxXjrvcuKmYvlfwPWGdtCe2hPUWdx2270gBZ89YiJekxBooAwhV 5Sue0ctmMUMhHRMDzMRlKsKKbv6OEN1jEUwBsptYplCHB9XGEkJRw.uI6l0k eyPT5F6xBe3UGWW0UpEGnWq0xXyckHszKfIM.sFa4F_JBt4h_607P0XfxnXy s_t2AYce.p.uStaMb825D206LBYSaXbQoDUmOOOQYXUSGzzOS4jAOnlNzx1c nVljJtu.ob1CraCfLg1Hkr_B_k6rj_DSuZWmqeF6mlhQ- X-Yahoo-SMTP: qYL3IF2swBDD0sjnQtsccH.JHw-- Received: from [10.225.50.10] (lgmtr6@174.228.195.119 with xymcookie) by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Oct 2012 17:23:10 -0700 PDT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8A7F7F67-F6C4-408A-BCE3-E12C3A060602@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A403) From: Triumph List Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:23:02 -0400 To: Don Hiscock , Phil Bacon Cell Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] BBC 4 - Timeshift - The Golden Age Of British Sports Cars X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fantastic! By the way, part 4 is also on You Tube and comes up if you search "Golden Age of British Sports Cars." Larry Miceli 58 TR3 73 Triumph Stag 74 TR6 71 XKE OTS 87 XJ6 VDP Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > And here's the last part: > Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cY44nAJLb34 > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > >> Cross-posted from the TR Register Forum. >> http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37497 >> >> Well worth viewing. The BBC iPlayer programs are only available for >> viewing in the UK. Some video is on YouTube for now giving an idea of the >> progam -- see post 7 in the thread above for embedded links for the whole >> program broken into smaller bits. But look quick... no telling how long it >> will be active. >> >> Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV1ceBBtJw&feature=player_embedded >> Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDNk4nVjdM&feature=player_embedded >> Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZWl6XHwCQo&feature=player_embedded >> >> Don >> 1962 TR3B TSF202L > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/lgmtr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 18:24:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B2C2D0150 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:24:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345302CFCF5 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:24:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2012 20:27:17 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BSO23370; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:27:12 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="postmaster@[192.168.1.146]"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 64-121-239-224.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.146]) ([64.121.239.224]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2012 20:27:12 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: Randall In-Reply-To: <20121009230246.8Z11S.154580.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> References: <20121009230246.8Z11S.154580.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:27:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't purchased any yet. The BPNW page has a Powertune logo with the British flag, though I can't find them on the web. http://www.bpnorthwest.com/index.php/triumph/tr2-tr3-tr4-tr4a/piston-and-liner-kit-89mm.html Moss doesn't say where they are made but the description and image of the piston is very much the same. I didn't know BFE also made a set until Marty Sukey mentioned it. Do you plan to use yours for the street? Allen On Oct 9, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Randall wrote: > > ---- Allen Hess wrote: >> Has anyone used the 89mm piston and liner set? (available from Moss >> and BPNW) It would be for a "street" engine and the improved piston >> design and made in the UK > > I haven't installed mine yet, but it sounds like maybe you have a > different set than I do. Do Moss & BPNW really claim they are made > in the UK? > > I got mine from BFE (who didn't recommend them for street use) and > AFAIK all the components were made right here in the USA. Deves > piston rings, Venolia pistons, and custom liners by LA Sleeve. I > don't recall if Ken said where the gaskets came from, but I wouldn't > be surprised if they were made by GasketWorks. These are all very > well respected companies, practically legendary in the high > performance engine parts business. > > Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 18:51:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131642D01BE for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:51:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5354C2C0D2B for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u3so4139127wey.14 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kqd0BayM5M6DO2P+QpSUGEFl+0MpbF3QJyukKJIRu20=; b=TDyVfc/2W51/T3oZni04mPTRGL8zTDbxG68g8NgOGtcCJMQr8MgSTFUXCbx9GUMmCc iNlS77KQuy8NdYeovu8Y/Vsci2+sAKAItRPbt3A2JEJxn9Rpup4tKUNMB+Aw+xKpQ+fM DpBxNlAe1EzTnIsqO3kZz/VTuLObUj2O6okrH3KNF8SjrmOGLeE696cE0ohqCavRTh84 M6KF25gq58IpbCW1GUV+cNtYlNuiV6f6uzYdxLtv96g/yNHWR5jEzhVCg8o/lYv4qNWO fngoN0SgKEPTwHt+hsuwkr51C4NR0ku969vbGt6CrlTN+KaPhW9DRAxBG2V6vtNyPzxk R+5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.85.99 with SMTP id g3mr8651793wiz.5.1349830460409; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20121009230246.8Z11S.154580.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:54:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: Allen Hess X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall Subject: Re: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought county line liners and pistons. Was surprised that the pistons were a lot heavier than the worn out hepolites. I did a careful job to balance them and they were quite close. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 18:58:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105082D014E for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:58:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6142C0CAE for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:57:55 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=rcBldY5xAAAA:8 a=yY7oCzZFnnetsSvbe44A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=F3iWlm6Gj24A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:55279] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F8/26-21565-4D8C4705; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:01:09 +0000 Message-ID: <20121010010109.ZFGNF.155233.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:01:08 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Robert Jones In-Reply-To: <63617F9F-C508-4AF1-998E-DF0C15544FE4@wfeca.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] A/C X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Robert Jones wrote: > Question: Should the > expansion valve be installed before flushing? Is flushing worth it? If so, > any recommended solvent? Wouldn't the new dryer be installed after flushing > and before evac and filling with freon? No need for flushing, IMO. That's for when you've had a compressor failure that dumped garbage in the system, or have too much oil or something. If you do flush, don't flush through either the receiver/dryer or the expansion valve. Disconnect the evaporator and condenser and flush them independently. And unless you flush with refrigerant, be darn sure to get all of the solvent back out. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 9 18:58:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F4A2D024A for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:58:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A93C2D0198 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp3UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=rcBldY5xAAAA:8 a=yY7oCzZFnnetsSvbe44A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=F3iWlm6Gj24A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:55283] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3A/45-11677-4E8C4705; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:01:24 +0000 Message-ID: <20121010010124.Z6S4X.155235.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 21:01:24 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Robert Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] A/C X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Robert Jones wrote: > Question: Should the > expansion valve be installed before flushing? Is flushing worth it? If so, > any recommended solvent? Wouldn't the new dryer be installed after flushing > and before evac and filling with freon? No need for flushing, IMO. That's for when you've had a compressor failure that dumped garbage in the system, or have too much oil or something. If you do flush, don't flush through either the receiver/dryer or the expansion valve. Disconnect the evaporator and condenser and flush them independently. And unless you flush with refrigerant, be darn sure to get all of the solvent back out. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 10 17:17:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B082D0B9E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:17:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11EE2D0B67 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 23:16:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.166] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 23:16:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2012 23:16:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 803737.5694.bm@omp1067.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 8860 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2012 23:16:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349910988; bh=xI+cb7zic8LZyu4wucLt3DIR/L0iW3VI39CW/Oy0J08=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oZqXyNoepRBKDWvoRW+v6IDHE1exFSgyonUdc4UGk9MlkIGl3q0ijCzBVBD9Zm8Tjio/fBiSb605KV6hNXM8nApl9L6rLgciGatYbkXxjd8uDNAskOpUS31u9mXjmu4bB4HCvW/IOCYtROjeoHegtyMZdag13S9eEI6fHYQuxMQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Kq+R1nMgLwE7gZEyXQ++a8pu5gqxLFjQAJ63/U+yYgvsiN+mK+Fj6o263HJs84DjSgC2yR7ygUUMYJGa0LM07pyUiFPHcO1xKWbUFgNCcGIeJn1FM0ZP8s22gaY8q2QF1012upzRdyIqeycGPj82HhIOt9FSFL/LrGc+SMuoN18=; X-YMail-OSG: O73uxjQVM1k8K9MJ64X2Q6QqZ2_BzVl2iZVeUmhIpuD.2rL GnMthy0DeOTbNdUsFrKpiye0HIC5FnQeMiwHcadKQBAZgnltbOVay3Rx.56V 8zr0g9Y.BBYmfHquDCy1Hj_MhHO4GgeDDZovcqE3KCYyWPVmdQxEC5eZktY3 Davb8pZgW8mRofj6UxZ_nB8QSji5H.W0pjEjelJF.JNbdX8RZaT2r4MmT4qb 9zpMG3D6.YAn9QjejEx6.1Hes1Z7aCImq36yUebmU77XvTN7EqrVjKWubxSm pjVU3ss01_tOvlLd7FZR_DvqIQff_J1fh_woD0wytxMOAQiq0TPrgvjG1nht 6dSQHHSVQb5xjKOBgk0lWedIoDwU4H7d4t2UksS__wve8BDLDsaa6gHEg6Au 22YIia9GGMNjlUkgrMJYb7RoOSxUvdDYfqow_.iBmTR3yqY7B3ydMmhDkyFN iaZ7OKh4rkjtGtttYBHHT Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:16:28 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, U3RhcnRlZCBpbnN0YWxsaW5nIGEgbmV3IGdyaWxsIGFuZCBmb3VuZCB0aGUgZml0IHRvIGJlIGEgY2hhbGxlbmdlLsKgIEkgdGhpbmsgSSdsbCBuZWVkIHRvIGRvIHNvbWUgYmVuZGluZyBhbmQgdHdlYWtpbmcuLi4uLi4uLi4uLi4ubWF5YmUgbW9yZSB0aGFuIEkgd2FudGVkIG9yIGZlZWwgY29uZmlkZW50IGFib3V0LsKgIEl0IHNlZW1zIHRvIGJlIGEgbGl0dGxlIGxhcmdlciB0aGFuIGV4cGVjdGVkIGFuZCBhbHNvIHdpbGwgbmVlZCB0byBoYXZlIGEgbGl0dGxlIG1vcmUgb2YgYSAiYm93IiBiZW50IGludG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:16:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Started installing a new grill and found the fit to be a challenge. I think I'll need to do some bending and tweaking.............maybe more than I wanted or feel confident about. It seems to be a little larger than expected and also will need to have a little more of a "bow" bent into it. I I think it will also need numerous fittings in and out, and with the protruding "nibs" around the attachment holes I'm not wanting to scratch paint although I know it probably won't show when installed. Just wondering whether others have run into this and what they've done. Does one bend the grill around the edges to make it slide in better or do some more major bending to fit? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 10 18:07:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB602D0C5C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:07:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173BB2D0C41 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so504591dad.14 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l+vpLkQtUrZn+8+VR2brGKclwbEsr6MFvVT88u0q4i0=; b=EVOyqg8zYQEr5szIh2ZSyLa4V21qEhHaV3RLeRP6w72RCtmJPSFZGx7tmtR8gewz7e ORNdNN5/RJOTZ4ZJsGo91vzx/Y8g3N6h6OF5+wxKyk7v7Fr5nOLBIzNJDbRfWQRNJiol FsQd63JBcHKH/XgK8AqvumeXufb6BB5TvsBXCCXQB78oViAsSN9v7SqCrZgHRs8ahDBJ 5YItac3p0pT2SfKEW+KfKfIhc1x17ivuHLpnHH2jsu6KtJxQ2aNTvJNqeiAUzAcK+yR0 HlWy+Z2lIY7Qti2BeBsoovWKxrSt1vKbzK22kxcIfp7XJye3SE4ZamCvozmN7NuLm/gn Lgvw== Received: by 10.66.75.233 with SMTP id f9mr66736136paw.21.1349914252497; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d9sm1584747paw.35.2012.10.10.17.10.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50760E89.5090107@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:10:49 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/10/12 4:16 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Started installing a new grill and found the fit to be a challenge. I think > I'll need to do some bending and tweaking.............maybe more than I wanted > or feel confident about. It seems to be a little larger than expected and > also will need to have a little more of a "bow" bent into it. That usually means that someone with a bit of weight rested their posterior in the middle of the front valance. Probably more than once and bent the upper lip of the valance down a little. Your car's mouth is very likely not quite open as high as it was from the factory. It seems a common problem that does not seem to be the fault of the grille. Sorry but I'm not sure of the best way to recover from that if the front valance is painted. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 10 20:01:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AE62D0E1E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:01:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78272D0E02 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k6so1054085lbo.14 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PW/8ArphGmPtUvyCUGJgjsxwA107Ye7t4u57FQD9aR4=; b=m4Y/xL4nguhqT7i2wGAAYFnYiOblGLdbPdEllxShsrwNHcWiOQGdsoCxYBmDDOLhNN 3GBfYY9T2mM4JMSyJSUqS/gt6zlaHGivbkzohT/0KJYVzN/+fwyoTSxjcXZwR7wnv47D tgGo8t5+daBaF+V4fj/VI43gycCYK/F4rKDdlMX4P22YAZsBcNFjJGrcw3rigvjSW0k2 8jdtqaWQlRsRLYbovUT31BUZUb8faFoPvpcA94Daen9PdyMUPwDzJZ0W0l0XBBkyzf61 gsGVt6RPQXzfGcJCnCV6s8aZv8iDRviFjo4DpSccOJ9X7w+T9hkcUVxv7mVQ6PTd1/+y 5u1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.108.197 with SMTP id hm5mr12675791lab.45.1349921056090; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:04:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Gary Nafziger Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a guy who opened up the grille mouth on his TR3A using a bottle jack. Seemed to work pretty well... http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=12265f0fcaebe481d6620f9b7690fdb7&showtopic=37429 See post #11. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 10/10/12, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Started installing a new grill and found the fit to be a challenge. I > think > I'll need to do some bending and tweaking.............maybe more than I > wanted > or feel confident about. It seems to be a little larger than expected and > also will need to have a little more of a "bow" bent into it. I I think it > will also need numerous fittings in and out, and with the protruding "nibs" > around the attachment holes I'm not wanting to scratch paint although I > know > it probably won't show when installed. > Just wondering whether others have run > into this and what they've done. Does one bend the grill around the edges > to > make it slide in better or do some more major bending to fit? > > > thanks > > gary > n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 10 20:08:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AD62D0E0B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:08:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5032D0D0B for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:03:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u3so832350wey.14 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0Tmr81VWypzNYyH999fReIXgoOLr6k1u3WNunENpMe0=; b=beKAtfNHNDsPdBvr7TnhWcRuMWoapTeJClxJkmetE+4v16ZcTt4sFNdihJyfOX+IIK L/sUw0PM0DR+I5v4BKzBFkcHNsDJdl8/+rPf0SPCR3lyHLq0/+DXE6nkZ/mOPfVWweRw s9FjwNGoEiboDIJq60w7u6YZpIapesyv2BBV1gyA8MYz+Q2dkKzd1GJD1TtHQusQsMKy 0pbHIX18kKjBdSe4QkORY89oCgsCgewsQCtbgaorXhFQCnvt7LGU49uRC5eYX1zumcfP /0cxgaYaqNfXpDXXmc9slHgdQJ5DvRHG0I3n6+2iR2Qr9jntdLYmwSqC4Uv+p5eckcDd HulQ== Received: by 10.217.3.1 with SMTP id q1mr14580104wes.38.1349921191696; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:06:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:06:11 -0400 Message-ID: To: Gary Nafziger X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One of my triumph buddies wanted to get a rough tr3 so he could ramble around in a rat rod - so to speak.he has a sweet tr250 that lives in a plastic bubble in his garare. He wanted something he did not have to worry about. He paid too much on ebay and it was not as represented - the front of the frame was Swiss cheese. We started disasemmlbing it and the grill was warped and bent and did not fit well at all. Immedatiaely we stopped and tried to reassemble - no way So we put the front apron on the car and it was really tweaked. A few hours later - with some force and 2x4's and more force - we finally got the apron to fit without a huge amount of pressure. There was some sorting out to do. More than a few minutes with the hammer and dolly and it was fitting well. The grill fit a ton better - but not perfiect. We'll work on that some more later - but until then - he has a driver! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 10 23:17:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27022D105E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:17:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C202D1041 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:16:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kW7yuNpdLYoA:10 a=oUDEbeSBAAAA:20 a=_y_NzSvFAAAA:20 a=dB6j060ikf66FiJIzk4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 06/7B-18765-90756705; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:20:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 22:21:25 -0700 Message-ID: <13a901cda770$42e21160$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <1349910988.444.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2nPeRgCBl6U8heRXCSTKMrj2RK4wAMWvjg Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > It seems to be a little larger than > expected and > also will need to have a little more of a "bow" bent into it. I had that problem with my TR3A (which I assume is what you are talking about). My fault, really, as I didn't give the body shop any measurements for the grille opening after some kind person backed into me in a parking lot and didn't even leave a note. But the grille was fairly soft, easy to bend by hand, and IMO didn't look too bad with a significant curve bent into it. Here's a shot where you can kind of see the curve: http://tinyurl.com/9mvtdnm After bending the center enough to fit into the opening, I used some love taps with a body hammer to work the rolled edge back down against the body. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 11 01:48:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F902D08F5 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:48:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454342D1071 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --- On Wed, 10/10/12, Janis Dabars wrote: From: Janis Dabars Subject: British Sports Cars----The golden age 1 klick on blue printing 15 minutes www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYV1ceBBtJw ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 11 10:05:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5653A2D139C for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:05:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B122D1377 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:05:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170176pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBQ00HWXKUFMYN1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.134 ([131.247.90.134]) by vznit170176 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:08:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:08:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: nafzigerg@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <6939283.2305501.1349971719298.JavaMail.root@vznit170176> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [131.247.90.134] Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 grill X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary & List. see: www.photobucket.com/TR3A-Grill-Opening I still have the top edge form sitting in the garage if anyone wants to use it - On 10/10/12, Gary Nafziger wrote: Started installing a new grill and found the fit to be a challenge. I think I'll need to do some bending and tweaking.............maybe more than I wanted or feel confident about. It seems to be a little larger than expected and also will need to have a little more of a "bow" bent into it. I I think it will also need numerous fittings in and out, and with the protruding "nibs" around the attachment holes I'm not wanting to scratch paint although I know it probably won't show when installed. Just wondering whether others have run into this and what they've done. Does one bend the grill around the edges to make it slide in better or do some more major bending to fit? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 11 10:37:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB262D1440 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:37:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DEE2D140E for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 10:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2012 16:41:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2012 16:41:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Oct 2012 16:41:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 393346.40183.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26003 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Oct 2012 16:41:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1349973666; bh=rWBJFJjPxurisylIG4Z277Gmk6RV9B90IWA8HMP1SG8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s+H5mPfISMsn66JxjOmTl8IPW2oS+HfzSCjApJNl/N5WYEzsD6IEhuO3+pH5Brur+DKOZmQGQO1Xm450jf3zqYqw7NDLdwzloUrB/hGTpuT9dccBvG6UnEUEvsDXEyGwJuuSvfpuazetQm35Fjm+rnzp4JuRDJe67zBAN++zsQ8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FlwiSEVDl5YEM0bVIERHBaQrZnU+pM+uW0cTDYcNJSo4jdP0Ap5fZ1AEYzOLeHJHYy+eh7A67hrvfIQE9bjpG9iUQPVgt6MmzMPEeryzu/wdbV7IA7r7JeSdvAKcaYR0g1Dp810CfZkmcmW4FHjfVTrC3ZECYG3qNJrlZR9w82c=; X-YMail-OSG: ZEMxi78VM1lDawJX67L7636myQME373n0gm2boksGZ6DxoN glSZAU_uEWmG3F7WMZEYt8n3uXHeEm0ZRCVmNU1lj2tTuLmzddZw1kNgvpSZ c3mgEjm_OLyioAFjmF1J_XHghFHUYscnvqp.3T8ZKFqTfo4R5ZkfGu3k.rXx eLicKfk3LkzySbCnkgv3u2mCmdufMVZrcUSVFstR7HpiZ1pi.KmAh47DGO3L Zz9p0fTQaRO2pWkWesMBHWVh7bRbJnegS76J.tPAHHcSJf0JPscRCSHD.lT0 2cWtSF.OgI2Hk4IYY85vyLnP0.xyNzL4Kj4XuZGv_MoRKKqj_X3ivHyuWpc2 TLJWvABF5_72fnO_hUG0orfMVumPbYf4kBHcYryaqflFVJkR5.SYJFiiFAgK BV8.b5Lv4xiy0xVRPIBktQa8gFkkrL6ofwvI01A6rmV0oNKFdQrgkM7VoZs3 xpWBxBWJxT_EQvM0JFGgd Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:41:05 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, dGhpbmtpbmcgb2Ygb3JnYW5pemluZyBhIGRyaXZpbmcgcmFsbHkgbGlrZSB0aGV5IGRvIGF0IHQtZmVzdCBmb3IgYSBzbWFsbCBsb2NhbCBncm91cC4Kd291bGQgYW55IG9uZSBoYXZlIGFuIG9sZCBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbiBzaGVldCBpIGNvdWxkIHRha2UgYSBsb29rIGF0IHRvIHVzZSBhcyBhIGZvcm1hdCBmb3IgbXkgcm91dGU_CnRoYW5rcwpGcmFuawEwAQEBAQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1349973665.19113.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] driving rally X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net thinking of organizing a driving rally like they do at t-fest for a small local group. would any one have an old instruction sheet i could take a look at to use as a format for my route? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 11 18:51:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C70F2D046E for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:51:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCF2D0401 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:46:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [96.240.167.85]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBR00DN38ZIRC51@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <50776987.2020009@blacksburg.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:51:19 -0400 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-version: 1.0 To: Allen Hess References: In-reply-to: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] 89mm pistons & liners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/9/2012 3:58 PM, Allen Hess wrote: > Has anyone used the 89mm piston and liner set? (available from Moss > and BPNW) It would be for a "street" engine and the improved piston > design and made in the UK is what interests me more than the > additional 2mm. It's cheaper now than a year or two ago, but still > around 2x the standard 87mm set of unknown origin. (anyone know where > these are coming from these days?) > > Any other opinions on engine parts appreciated. > > Allen > TR4 > Bethlehem, PA I bought a set from BPNW 2 years ago. The package had a Union Jack on it. One wrist pin clip was missing, which took forever to be replaced by BPNW. They didn't include ring setting dimensions, and, interestingly, the rings were a mixed set. The compression rings were Deves units, but not the oil ring. The pistons were feather-light and very easy to balance dead nuts. One thing that I ****hated**** about the pistons was the lack of quality control on the compression distance. Since I'm A.R. to a fault, I had to face 3 of them, so they are all now 0.019 below the deck. That's a HUGE loss of cylinder volume. I was NOT happy. That said, in two years they may have fixed those issues. hth jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 11 20:57:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5957B2D0656 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:57:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A267E2D061B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-9905.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.54.180] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TMVTg-0006N0-T0; Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:59:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:59:55 -0400 Message-Id: <33D1B1B7-3024-4F7E-A8CF-1ADC3514CEC9@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] driving rally X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, at 9:41 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > > thinking of organizing a driving rally like they do at t-fest for a small local group. > would any one have an old instruction sheet i could take a look at to use as a format for my route? > thanks > Frank Not really a rally and I have not seen what is used at Triumphfest, but I created one of the tours for the 6 Pack TRials and I have sent you the Word version. If this is what you have in mind, you can just change the instructions and distances. Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 12 09:37:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289C02D09BB for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:37:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEFC2D09B9 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so2442762lag.14 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=aOXJTIyYCqhbufwOSq8Z/YU6SyDgZvIqxXVdPyr6lYQ=; b=NCv/wqQlS8ZV4Nj686w+JPODAZrNv6o2DkD+nDIp9FmVUkGcjtQ+payH7itR0WHFSp Mmy3ddpOtZ7YS3atT2M+y1JdixLK5FIRJE8vBfMLrO9bNoWgMx8Jkm4ttokkFe7I17j0 liXzxTnSRDRa4DFG5bVvr7yHj6gAOXdbz9eLu/wcLryZFQ/KWcNUbvLStD4rZsbU+lTv fzV9tu3S1y1MU+rVvFUVNuIiloarQ6XegH8xuLvElFjUNT9xZcOY3E+8OQuokXOpmfON 8IVXTs102USVR1ZBkDFhh4apOdOuk0l7cqXmQyM8Nt1v3IVa9DxMTUUPKjnE/HieP9/4 /Izg== Received: by 10.112.42.233 with SMTP id r9mr1748057lbl.76.1350056421460; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:40:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:40:01 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] RIP Annie Soisbault (TR3 rallying star in 1950s) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net An important part of Triumph racing history has left us. http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/obituaries/motor-sport-world-mourns-female-pioneer?utm Don 1962 Triumph TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 13 14:58:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3AA2D0832 for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:58:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413AD2D06EA for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS8 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:01:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [74.111.244.194] X-EIP: [8g1ZMwA06IHXL4hwpgaBKMmwCkf6rXFR] X-Originating-Email: [peterara@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:02:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:02:02 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2012 21:01:48.0928 (UTC) FILETIME=[F629A000:01CDA985] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Overheating with unique solution X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As those of you who travelled with me to and from Triumphest and some who were there know, I had an issue with overheating. The solution was unique, but to appreciate it let me give you some background. My car, 1971 TR6, has never overheated. I have had it to Lake Havasu, Laughlin, Barstow, Palmdale, other places where it was well over 100 degrees. In stop and go it may go up some, but as soon as we move temp comes right down. Because of this, I did not check the overflow bottle as much as I should - may be every few months. For the last year or two, every time I checked it, it was empty, The radiator was full, but the bottle was empty. I would half fill and go on. In the weeks prior to Triumphest, the water pump bearing started making some noise, so I replaced it. At the same time I replaced the top hose, it was a little swollen, replaced the thermostat, which I checked and it did open at temperature, and checked the radiator cap. The seal at the base of the cap, where it actually closes off the radiator core, had some pieces broken off the edge - it looked like a mouse had been chewing on it. I replaced it. I filled the system and the water bottle and drove off. After the next several trips, the bottle was always empty. At first I figured it was the system filling, but after a few times I realized I was losing water somehow. No leaks. No overheating. I decided to make the trip anyway. We went from southern CA via Barstow to overnight in Laughlin. No problems. I checked they water in HOT Barstow, none in the bottle, half filled it. When we got to Laughlin, about 4PM, I left the group to run an errand. When I stopped water was boiling out of the overflow bottle. When I restarted to go back to the hotel, the temperature came right down. When I got gas I put more water in the bottle, and the next day we went to Flagstaff. No problems until the return trip stop in Barstow. It was boiling out the bottle again, but no overheating on the gauge. When we got back I took it to a radiator shop we use. He flushed the system and checked the radiator flow. All was excellent. So I was thinking it must be the head gasket, even though I was not blowing white smoke. Then I spoke with our resident mechanic. He told me to check the radiator cap. I told him I had just replaced it. Now here it comes: He explained that the radiator cap is a two direction valve. One opens at the rated pressure, the other is on the underside, radiator core side, of that to let the water back in from the bottle. He said check under that. Sure enough I checked and there were some pieces of hard rubber - like had broken off the main seal. Remember my chewed up seal on the old cap? Cleaned them out, washed-out my overflow bottle, pulled the overflow tube off the base of the bottle, and so far no more water loss! Figure water was just blowing out the partially opened secondary valve causing all my problems. Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 09:05:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C361F2D0915 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:05:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBBD2D0902 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id B2tP1k0011ap0As54387sb; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:08:07 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([98.218.152.215]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id B38c1k00e4f5vDe3i38ccN; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:08:37 +0000 Message-ID: <507AD551.9020200@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:08:01 -0400 From: John T Nichols User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Dubai TR3B X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On the Triumph Experience site there is an ad for a 1962 TR3B located in Dubai with an asking price of $111,000. It looks nice in the photos but not that nice. John T Nichols '58 TR3A TS32093LO '86TVR 280i ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 09:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C22D0841 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:19:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583C62D083D for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP271 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:22:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.252.209.17] X-EIP: [HPXWn4krvWNwAibSOL50+RD/2Yf8Slj9] X-Originating-Email: [trmarty@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from [10.250.68.231] ([174.252.209.17]) by BLU0-SMTP271.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:22:44 -0700 From: "trmarty@hotmail.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:23:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Motorola android mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2012 15:22:45.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[C2D74B90:01CDAA1F] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Jag alt. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know this is non triumph but... we are on a weekend car rally and a buddies 65 xke jag alternator took a dump. Made it to the hotel. Anybody have a reference to a substitute alternator we might be able to buy at a FLAPS? Marty Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wirelessb" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 09:27:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC642D092F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:27:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D482D0887 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:23:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so8413437ied.14 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=voM7q/hLSy1TGEIeJmCC6AcWnTH7xV0QQ6tjZOAjvNA=; b=V9nE+tybLLZtW9O+USkgFwjVYT4hoA1NtCp9UfLWPsjmwUQex6J6mnpYW1QEMF+VQn i5ZLe6PY8EX+iUbymJEzmxOUwJNxFZ/5Lcz2hcVhiZu6NeLJTwtztndSmkrrHsLsoYKO +h85vEIu6g8nfkGTCjR92rO5ueQ7AQJxMZJ50UQ4Fx6RmaVWy7D8kM+1r6CP8uTAdJHU ZbPEetLxzUKkIIv2lt4FEA6ic7vjFvKo9NiWdW4yjuwFUaUdDhLTf4HT/+rn4rLTwLOj xCWQEGHFZ7BCCJtk7L/ixzvSs7JBzXLzvz/RxsVQb0t0bDjJRso8sPGy8rS/MwlSzZCN 70Nw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.35 with SMTP id np3mr6762936igc.22.1350228427961; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <507AD551.9020200@comcast.net> References: <507AD551.9020200@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:27:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: John T Nichols X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Dubai TR3B X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Isn't this the same country where an Astin Martin owner flew his car to the UK for an oil change & service? Geo On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:08 AM, John T Nichols wrote: > On the Triumph Experience site there is an ad for a 1962 TR3B located in > Dubai with an asking price of $111,000. It looks nice in the photos but not > that nice. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 09:35:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C8D2D096A for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:35:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558322D0969 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 15:38:11 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.121] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 15:38:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 15:38:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 472502.12566.bm@omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39483 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Oct 2012 15:38:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1350229091; bh=3gEFyCIaaXAHtILiPItX1RPAMdUJ3NqJWr6idxCDLZg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ox0oMZlb7CpeX61NG8TnhfLQDpiUsr+9uZmeXcf3ttUKPJJI7uqVaeHhhZStMp5dzF7GhdWOv1+ha5PX9HCPfmixIK3hBd2Px6P53WNx0kERszRguRnBjgu8X1Dm03CEIfmWr1jYk41oS80iPfYlkSIdKpQGKcxmRJzjpuQqkQY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d2R8ZHYNYoLSW2b+dvS8GyvIloP52LxhkfJagE6tr1rpf2T9T93pq6QT9/6E2f19pgoi/x2ntXcRAUAqj/9URCyH/JnZMNmBo4X1lvAdHThA3gZuDBWJgNJxGLbsYt2wdSJKwBd8CzwRdYGvrnIqHq5iRcoL3nqAu1s9EenfCEI=; X-YMail-OSG: xjJWky0VM1mDHQODrhPQhenZn2ALlLPcqNk72oJX_lBU79e C7Euyswwx3jobCUtZnF78diri4pN8kT_hsuseapAGkUIIn.Hc5H4N.IHQgRk MQkZPcTZ_r.lfgPsLBqD_nBgqpig3UBl__5vqaK61ZEXPl1eUr3evHW_lO4F ITcjoHdrg5Pjj0.wB2Zo6Ys9it0bmmI9vK8ZDQUjBzqCg8I_etrtaqTF4p7O k4l09cDRLWTtcAfFOYulKpbZcDfwFT3KOt1vsyhLWppPXkFSf_enzEk5amwK 75H_oueGDzLmBYnGz5BHvoii7t8AmoYveD29mlobGD4dyAwOGkZFYsZ5RrVj Sw63uPGcIuQmkSOFD0LouQSlGWIvpgm41CNsDZ.I1aPOMZJGmm6.1nZunpjn 8lzL8vy_B2MD6FjPy2BFdDwop0oBI91fCh46qtBRd2Kt7Wb9Dj2DlAQwR0t5 i.TZeDwtJfAqDIIMbqf6uypRRRDWKh0bGUGNFaf3rXkon5n.flVO3mHR8UEP WQoZQxmUbMSrOZAVVopPhDSg- Received: from [90.199.100.232] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:38:11 BST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, SGF2aW5nIHZpc2l0ZWQgRHViYWkgb24gbWFueSBvY2Nhc2lvbnMsIEknZCBzcGVjdWxhdGUgaXRzIHByb2JhYmx5IHRoZSBvbmx5IG9uZSBsZWZ0IHRoZXJlIC0gYW5kIGxldCdzIGZhY2UgaXQsIGdvbGQgcGxhdGVkIFJvbGxzIFJveWNlcyBhbmQgQnVnYXR0aSBWZXlyb25zIGFyZSBtb3JlIHRoZWlyIHNvcnQgb2YgdHJhbnNwb3J0IHdoaWNoIG1heSBleHBsYWluIHRoZSBwcmljZT8KwqAKSW4gYW55IGNhc2UsIGFueW9uZSB3YW50aW5nIHRvIGRyaXZlIGFuIG9wZW4gY2FyIG9mIGFueSBtYWtlwqBpbiB0aG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <507AD551.9020200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1350229091.34830.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:38:11 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: John T Nichols , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <507AD551.9020200@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Dubai TR3B X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Having visited Dubai on many occasions, I'd speculate its probably the only one left there - and let's face it, gold plated Rolls Royces and Bugatti Veyrons are more their sort of transport which may explain the price? In any case, anyone wanting to drive an open car of any make in those temperatures (at any time of the year) would need to have their heads examined. With the average standard of Arab driving, I'd feel happier (and safer) in an armour plated Humvee Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: John T Nichols >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, 14 October 2012, 16:08 >Subject: [TR] Dubai TR3B > >On the Triumph Experience site there is an ad for a 1962 TR3B located in Dubai with an asking price of $111,000. It looks nice in the photos but not that nice. > >John T Nichols >'58 TR3A TS32093LO >'86TVR 280i > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 10:03:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E2E2D098F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:03:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18DA2D098E for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:03:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so3892744iak.14 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ykHQ/Jjlyw7NJH7uc2FmEaEvyktJm1I8NEXqBgxC4Pg=; b=ngV4YeAZ1mfdsEVYPqE4bWiTRLAaRkfY70ULgM1p3yRqf1t+8xVEXKumWsTIsam/VM TGmfQ35LXPK21tBJzmwEWg0MPuvnpe3BuiMIuTEtjcFjekiS8uwFb+NuMTaGW6YSUHmB ZeWkyz91RfP+Z+8gAvLrGTj0SxjnJahL7ilu1phCrS0iX1nzT6e7zQgId7ebPilp7fW8 qhASX4CrfplKln6BJMNQFFC72MBB5CsHRbXTqjKOKXcvks6tssXi7UGERBziJ5gXv/o/ GZPP7qmIfG/pBFkYEEiDUQwUCtWxwW2cbbkwhhIj7oU74xXrolivOplyXk2xjEjKVsM+ +EPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.208.101 with SMTP id md5mr6817962igc.37.1350230800522; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.44.233 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:06:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A stag I'm working on was poorly resprayed from red to blue. My hunch is the guy who did it didn't prep very well. I'd like to rub it down and expose the red , but not cut into the red. What grade/number of wet and dry should I use? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 11:22:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804792D098F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:22:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972F82D0968 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:22:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vzuUFiI9YfkA:10 a=5WYLbUFKMFTmurB0W_MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1C/DC-18765-C75FA705; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:25:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: <166001cdaa31$11d84d00$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2qH9Ug5PYHL3BhTBKGhs48wvBtWAAEKyWQ Subject: Re: [TR] Jag alt. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I know this is non triumph but... we are on a weekend car > rally and a buddies 65 xke jag alternator took a dump. Made > it to the hotel. Anybody have a reference to a substitute > alternator we might be able to buy at a FLAPS? Best I can make out, a 65 XKE would use a Lucas 11AC externally regulated, same as my early Stags. Sorry, I don't know of anything available from FLAPS that would be a simple parking-lot replacement. They are pretty simple though, tomorrow your friend could probably find a local "auto electric" shop that could fix it. In the meantime, see if maybe there is someone else on the rally that would swap batteries with you periodically. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 15:09:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F94F2D0A0B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:09:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9CC2D09D6 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9ELCRNv003600; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:12:27 -0400 Received: from core-moc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 01D18E000088; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:12:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <41ec.5638e141.3dac84ba@cs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:12:26 -0400 (EDT) To: trmarty@hotmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350249147; bh=h0RghuTu8jqLB/jFXj6kL77DQjRU7tpnlTunSGDbnA0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iUT5yBcAfXaptiSOAYh34MCiwV36jdmaDIiJjhqjmIZQqOZgqvWbT6yhGHMpwSON6 Zd3aGi0cMxWvn24MoCNO0szlBeBmBPegVChd4Stfq6iKpDtosVxBEwKR8i2ebcBU5Q pgO0CZaGMFmR9b77oI2oePlAM03WGbKp4SgdlliM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:470247168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca507b2abb7720 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Jag alt. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll bet the old Saturn alternator swap used on TR7's and 8's will work but you will have to get the right pulley and swap pulleys. But it might be cheaper to just buy another battery and drive. I drove all the way back from Summer Party (10+ hours) on a battery. Just don't drive at night. Lights will kill a battery in an hour or two. Dave In a message dated 10/14/2012 10:22:52 AM Central Daylight Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > I know this is non triumph but... we are on a weekend car rally and a > buddies 65 xke jag alternator took a dump. Made it to the hotel. Anybody have > a reference to a substitute alternator we might be able to buy at a FLAPS? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 15:54:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE862D09FA for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:54:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6C12D0961 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.79] by nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 21:57:11 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by tm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 21:57:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 21:57:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 227558.54665.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78144 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Oct 2012 21:57:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350251830; bh=9w6xLCbtmx0UcCM08vv7amLugnl8v+aNie2k5QHRz04=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GYTg1x8jalfQUFquCpdRDd7I9vQy3gW86XCkk7Qv5cH4svoqLrI/WM9MePL3TxgYNPoaxl1fncg4BD6e8OLLDIYusfbtn9ud/jfWaoKeRz1d/AR57WjL3ToAmIqfZVde0A7GEUs9WcKTreprIuyO6CRyVM01VpizxBRUf9M2RzU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NUZAX2s/JTHKmHFuiPgEQ83lIJO5O93OXolDbPpPll4Ghu5+wSPwQiZWeDcJNVbXxv5QNkj2gGQpTuOUHuPiWKJE6/m7zaVILoaaT/ACXi9zR8oVUbg5PEBM2U39g09WFzO64MWcFHp5i3u3hgfilxjWuuRvXgmG5Nx0daT25no=; X-YMail-OSG: scBL1AUVM1n0PnvpLPbCIUG0PuiaSO9_HisKIwTQvGwhAj7 sY75Bk57vB2ZK9CDLSHC0x3VGPDulkIgNyckG9WcV36fsBKvAlrDqyrIsOgk jWyLVB_53UXQF_jSh2QbxGHkwit5B_ZySYht2xiXRyAEk9bIFmTsBUf64PD4 roaclAESHRW5XoxSX.z8gg3ZagnWMxkHaK0RgpcsiVWrGaOiDd98y4ADnt68 8tJpWoxRixydnno8NHg__0E97XWNtvr4mImOndu2vscksvAPzxzAoK.eufI1 tyjXrHI0NykKEh6CukLznMppSzsgwlKRcmZ5IDWrNaQLHYrKpzx3MuHQysLR fgoBB4kmlFdP.UnD.p4KizblpabSSFhEHV..i5KSBZefoYSjmQwMImjLpi3D J55pvO1VCViR40QoZhPl8ZRzDt8kLM.H0PDO3JCR94QVa4fRMuyoCAYkBT_j S291Xhrqi14r5fpb8thQB5uTK94.8n8vxjEmdHAivQXyYzjaWID1tge_micJ KW2feuMyhE_cFbY9P5hgDAsXOn2PIR3SZuUhVyw5mJb3q.5i6rkDGtg7.6Br kifH5RpZ8d1i8mI4- Received: from [68.249.98.177] by web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:57:10 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, RWFybGllciB0aGlzIHllYXIsIEkgbG9zdCB0aGUgYWx0ZXJuYXRvciBvdXQgb2YgbXkgJzc4IHNwaXQgYXTCoGEgYnJpdGlzaCBjYXIgZmVzdGl2YWwsIGJvdWdodCBhIGNoZWFwIGNoYXJnZXIsIGNoYXJnZWQgdGhlIGJhdHRlcnkgYW5kIGRyb3ZlIGhvbWUgdGhhdCB3YXkuIFN0aWxsIGVub3VnaCBjaGFyZ2UgdG8gc3RhcnQgc2V2ZXJhbCB0aW1lcy4KCgpKb2huIFlvdW5nIE5BU1MjIDUyOApJbmRpYW5hCic3OCBTcGl0ZmlyZQonNjYgU3BpdGZpcmUKJzU5IFRSM0HCoChiZWluZyByZXBhaXJlZCBhZnRlciABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <41ec.5638e141.3dac84ba@cs.com> Message-ID: <1350251830.1270.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 14:57:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Young To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <41ec.5638e141.3dac84ba@cs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Jag alt. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Young List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Earlier this year, I lost the alternator out of my '78 spit at a british car festival, bought a cheap charger, charged the battery and drove home that way. Still enough charge to start several times. John Young NASS# 528 Indiana '78 Spitfire '66 Spitfire '59 TR3A (being repaired after 37 yrs ownership) ________________________________ From: "Dave1massey@cs.com" To: trmarty@hotmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Jag alt. I'll bet the old Saturn alternator swap used on TR7's and 8's will work but you will have to get the right pulley and swap pulleys. But it might be cheaper to just buy another battery and drive. I drove all the way back from Summer Party (10+ hours) on a battery. Just don't drive at night. Lights will kill a battery in an hour or two. Dave In a message dated 10/14/2012 10:22:52 AM Central Daylight Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > I know this is non triumph but... we are on a weekend car rally and a > buddies 65 xke jag alternator took a dump. Made it to the hotel. Anybody have > a reference to a substitute alternator we might be able to buy at a FLAPS? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jeyoung_2@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 17:17:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8572D0A93 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:17:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA2E2D0A91 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:17:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id B9iC1k0021bwxycABBLpbg; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:20:49 +0000 Received: from [10.230.243.206] ([174.252.149.4]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BBLa1k00V05wBmu8eBLdSl; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:20:46 +0000 To: Dave1massey@cs.com,trmarty@hotmail.com,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:20:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Jag_alt=2E?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20121014231749.9C8572D0A93@autox.team.net> Most of the single wire alternators will work fine. You should be able to bolt it up using spacers. Don't forget to change it for the next JAG show...they won't accept one that isn't trailing smoke! ;-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com To: , Subject: [TR] Jag alt. Date: Sun, Oct 14, 2012 16:12 I'll bet the old Saturn alternator swap used on TR7's and 8's will work but you will have to get the right pulley and swap pulleys. But it might be cheaper to just buy another battery and drive. I drove all the way back from Summer Party (10+ hours) on a battery. Just don't drive at night. Lights will kill a battery in an hour or two. Dave In a message dated 10/14/2012 10:22:52 AM Central Daylight Time, trmarty@hotmail.com writes: > I know this is non triumph but... we are on a weekend car rally and a > buddies 65 xke jag alternator took a dump. Made it to the hotel. Anybody have > a reference to a substitute alternator we might be able to buy at a FLAPS? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 17:50:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4702D0AB7 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:50:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD01B2D0AB6 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.156]) by p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id BBsq1k0013NTTJW01BsrNY; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:52:55 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Sujit Roy'" , "'Triumphs'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:52:51 -0400 Message-ID: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHcdBkF8k/k1ZqvjV71vn9MjNpFEJeb5VCQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is this even possible - and why would you want to do it? The red underneath will never be good enough for a nice finish. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sujit Roy Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:07 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] wet and dry A stag I'm working on was poorly resprayed from red to blue. My hunch is the guy who did it didn't prep very well. I'd like to rub it down and expose the red , but not cut into the red. What grade/number of wet and dry should I use? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 18:16:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C442D0AD5 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:16:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7952D0ACF for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121015001939.SJIH24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:39 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id BCKc1k0043enFnk05CKfnh; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:39 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=oWNdpGTiei5a0zEDTcgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=5mrclwhhXz8A:10 a=nAe1T1EFY5wA:10 a=gRhGp7LnpAQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=vTVpXYaBX9EbHjaS:21 a=FlrQld60LXtk8kKF:21 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'Sujit Roy'" , "'Triumphs'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:19:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cdaa6a$c1303630$4390a290$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHcdBkF8k/k1ZqvjV71vn9MjNpFEJeb7RGQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My Gosh - That could be a good Halloween car. Scratch it and it bleeds red! Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sujit Roy Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:07 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] wet and dry A stag I'm working on was poorly resprayed from red to blue. My hunch is the guy who did it didn't prep very well. I'd like to rub it down and expose the red , but not cut into the red. What grade/number of wet and dry should I use? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 18:17:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F992D0AD9 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:17:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13AF2D0AF1 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:16:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=a96yBDuF c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=bUB9FgXQFPoA:10 a=U-5uOOvC94hXcoozCKIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:62924] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E6/AC-15517-AA65B705; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 00:19:55 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , "'Sujit Roy'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:19:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would echo Andrew's comment, if it was possible it would represent 100s (?) of hours of painstaking work, you would need to work very slowly and carefully to not damage the underfinish or work through to the metal in high spos or ridges, that is assuming they simply painted over the old finish with minimal of work. Many times a car is painted for a reason, I have painted over old paint, but never without a lot of sanding, filling small dents, door dings, what not. An interesting idea, but would be pretty tricky to carry off with any kind of success. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 18:19:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A06A2D0AB8 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:19:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AB82D0AB6 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 00:22:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.198] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 00:22:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 00:22:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 472264.51772.bm@omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86837 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2012 00:22:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350260565; bh=g5yt5QVbuIKZwidjIdfEpb0RGoT0jQlG5k/A2Vq8q4E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P2FR3ta2ygKp+gVGA20u0gtPPnnGmK97+N6d6uMeQetfABLvrwCaVfGW+1yYf83J4HRDvPW28Jq3G5wILKMVv3rC10RZRg7MMC/5e2NBPqc6CtuL4ABg92dlXVJnjvIFl0LCE3V6WtRiGi2m1HJaR8E6uHPre4aE0bhLlU+ztVI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uQ3oRSXW6AYDK5ZwyB0qU4ao1zzmWirHyOq2sv26jpY63VS+OTXa12AU66hbMuOTtbYqJ3eVgfpJGrvawvj5cZda/Uv0cA84bfEjZd0+UwkNlc/AXv+PtolCumptAVbnQnWvA4Wfq3i2oqufvxCUUCXMuf4ISAHSnwDzpFPvxQ0=; X-YMail-OSG: 6ehAw9EVM1lpfU1bbsuXAXg99n2ZigpKS.hVis_NpQaTVRC yoISOd.Pbg_oLLZeK0799d4eWhcZfOCdiPUAKWOF7zrxkOQRHTwu07Ak4KNt HqJ4BD6VfTzMo_8dJOHi6K63cxzUN1RYcu7.m_giKzCPoCupZrd.fLu2Q5wc L.VxcRX9uVOxZk50sO7AoIiMZN6YRPvXSFh8VopT4DhDH_tVY7hm2vnq4Qs7 IZnfxhFOtGuTmnTnjv5rvZbe4tlyVS76zJcfIy6ilm0TGapi8kFjqUjxVIv3 cRkk6m6oTOgoFbyiE9qC_3.diUcAALWVY432pvp57rcUOd_5jS0FYvqbHUrn xkJZv55KR3bKKX9ETDFkHTFdIDHbme7AKOcMdve4kDbsKmdkxPt4nYDjmsQn VtU37ZhYaU5RpCYiypw7rV_DnjHk5iyZ7qtcZZFXgti4VSqS_G_3kSFxNWEC EOpEai3c9g2api9_Zc8Q- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:22:45 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, UmVjZWl2ZWQgYSBuZXcgc3BlZWRvIGNhYmxlIGFuZCByZW1lbWJlciBzb21lIHRhbGsgYSB3aGlsZSBiYWNrIG9mIHRoZSBuZWVkIHRvICJmaXgiIHRoZSB0aXAgKHRyLTMpIGFzIGl0IHdhcyBtYW51ZmFjdHVyZWQgdG9vIGxvbmcuwqAgRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUgcmVtZW1iZXIgdGhlIHNwZWNpZmljcy9tZWFzdXJlbWVudHMgZm9yIHRoaXMgam9iPwp0aGFua3MKCmdhcnkgbi4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1350260565.73921.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:22:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] speedo cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Received a new speedo cable and remember some talk a while back of the need to "fix" the tip (tr-3) as it was manufactured too long. Does anyone remember the specifics/measurements for this job? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 19:36:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A04C2C0CB0 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:36:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0072C0CAB for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:35:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.15] helo=mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TNZe1-0003Db-NK for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:39:01 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TNZe1-00087K-48; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:39:01 -0400 Received: from webmail08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.8]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id BDf11k0070ASE2q01Df1W2; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:39:01 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=I8mMgHWUg-cA:10 a=ryHbLb4iAAAA:8 a=AD8Y5rBTgNzEIgW2aTYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=jAJBA3KhZ3gA:10 a=7h2F2BjDq9+/f7diu5YjrQ==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.8 X-EN-IMPSID: BDf11k0070ASE2q01Df1W2 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TNZdG-0001Rg-FM; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:38:14 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:38:14 -0400 Message-ID: <89869e90edf8c91952931732c27052ca.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <1350260565.73921.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1350260565.73921.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:38:14 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] speedo cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is the same information http://www.xks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Speedometer-Cable-Length.pdf Greg G. Osseo, MN > Received a new speedo cable and remember some talk a while back of the > need to > "fix" the tip (tr-3) as it was manufactured too long. Does anyone > remember > the specifics/measurements for this job? > thanks > > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 19:46:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF54D2C0C97 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:46:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B7B2C0CCA for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:46:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from RonLHeraultPC ([unknown] [71.184.87.144]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBW004CBVQBL320@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:49:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:49:23 -0400 Message-id: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: Ac2qd0zw8ZBZ6OXlSHqPoQs9oIXZZQ== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Was watching Perry Mason on ME TV and spotted a light colored TR-3. It supposedly belonged to a 16 yr old female student at an all girls school. Never saw it driven in the show though. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 19:59:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8612C0B8F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:59:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5B2C0CC7 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 02:01:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.49] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 02:01:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 02:01:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350266513; bh=J7JrqOxPgDvsc3RB1EWcjX7vq+OfElB+pkzdsrpa38Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=kJ7v4qlnUnLnFRdXiujzCOujSOl6l642g3Sga9WP2sddOGGzIsQ19EpVIBNBevFZvtCKYp8REg92FoMbrE4ldxG0F0mr2l6mZQp0gaayU17V+gUzu9XUxB36cnhcB4Rhl4pyLAswFvkFbNwlqa/cNUdT88zd3Jx2L5E9BhAWyxk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 553510.75043.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PpH8YO4VM1mrnnNx75.PzaktCNYD01K3LXBYrrwnMV_nwRQ ntqNzwKardXxDX0z77_ktEyE9t9CZNfOM3pPIDG1INAZMbibe8TKMXgnHhN7 padhDfNsUspkuTEhmR7oQ6OAqXMmAWkdHozvd.7MYBSaopq8Mf9eeNSzZVLC CILmZ3q_PYod252d3RHHdg0y4YeBXQlAw1_kBfLZBAN16b9SMyDiimwxhR1d PD5DdGM.2T6P97527UnkH5MAw6vtUq5scN86DfE9VWgd08mo4TNwk7etU2Ka 1hloH2oZqiUfYFjAkDFXSmWDNuABGxKiBxft9Y7BGYTy4HVcCsE8fyiOmNWh aPDXSruO47aDhm_pTD3ebKjqX3f.bXcididjkOr4XQCq4i8LKPKUr_CrzG3P lSO2_bCk1hL2t1VJpC9zw3SPXQbMWAx60K7YzEahXj0KNQb2e99MM2ZRt.lo AAX4xx1BL6sLhuV5Q0u3qcdBHLQDh7jTlOA4rQl5Ikioywf6pv7wNaZ5cx6_ 2OeyGVzoQ_IzAMK4D X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [192.168.1.102] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2012 19:01:53 -0700 PDT References: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> In-Reply-To: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <818591ED-B931-4F25-838E-FB333E053547@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) From: Wbeech Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:01:45 -0500 To: Ron L'Herault Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, there is another Perry Mason with Werner Klemperer (Commandant Klink) driving. Sent from mobile Bill On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:49 PM, "Ron L'Herault" wrote: Was watching Perry Mason on ME TV and spotted a light colored TR-3. It supposedly belonged to a 16 yr old female student at an all girls school. Never saw it driven in the show though. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 20:02:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5FF2C0B8F for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:02:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33CD2C0B8B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so8898273ied.14 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hsWTAVFGDYnhDo86CUn6kcDLKeXp4r6alMzIRV4Y6UM=; b=1CbUja3YYbY3TgbLr5JNY/Kp6Zq4SCRitbJceeWkUJ/mLeDYrsIeHd+YwHfPMaryCt MAM+kHvcnwmyiRTwgQKYmOUil5Z/bK6SaqL/6YPFSFzPMbmtWgCjXi7njD0qrYZWnizb 336p0Pi8TF5ETFaIEVCSw+sg/9y58t9IvMLhwnbIGkrKshE4zyWSw7i90sw1I+EQZPBo Y/5KNrQ+FeiHKnN7Ki8PWXb71o5OxHPxepU1t8MHyTD9crmGq2a/QSxgfjgUMiMgl6f6 8hHjA7r58LJsjG9RPxITLfnTEKHhoCWp+Giu2jb0LcRvgKoq42dwdQoMs+9buH7bDjFK /bjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr7482566igb.44.1350266730114; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1350260565.73921.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1350260565.73921.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:05:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Gary Nafziger X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] speedo cable X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As an alternative to shortening, I added a suitable washer to mine to back off the cable a bit. Geo On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Received a new speedo cable and remember some talk a while back of the > need to > "fix" the tip (tr-3) as it was manufactured too long. Does anyone remember > the specifics/measurements for this job? > thanks > > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 14 20:06:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F282C0C9B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:06:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4345D2C0B89 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:06:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so4163291iak.14 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:09:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BJ4VSF8GAXjzm0AoJrnI47kQlqDEGNB3pONsoP/0HLs=; b=fk080F3Q9wpXU7mWN+012hYlnpwaFtQE/b4dgReZlVYO2/BiG3vy4ZKVx+HJo++YVi ibTDg7mu6YxKYUSpIxU82pgYLms5LfEywONmyv+bitODwlQE+LWLd3N0+WqyMPe4YT5m cnJhcZre9eEc16mZp5pArDiry4k8p+bI0yAz44dityAUUeESqT6wEJLAzdtjbMi0CxHP +xWPpk8l4xyJwKZ/oiyLUWFP+z+oNIlStRLntE2RPZfgaQNo1P3vHx0HFDLDLnRc6vUA qPZr19DEypjBzrNmLKCKe5FxodMYTUwdYTjAUmbJmSEobS//utWE+TkXvprCfvEU+19H 4JCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.69 with SMTP id zu5mr7669248igb.23.1350266984150; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:09:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <818591ED-B931-4F25-838E-FB333E053547@flash.net> References: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> <818591ED-B931-4F25-838E-FB333E053547@flash.net> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "" , Ron L'Herault Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are also a couple of TR4 episodes. Here's some crude stills from the two appearances mentioned: http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/Perry.JPG http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/tr-klink3.JPG Geo On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Yep, there is another Perry Mason with Werner Klemperer (Commandant Klink) > driving. > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:49 PM, "Ron L'Herault" wrote: > > Was watching Perry Mason on ME TV and spotted a light colored TR-3. It > supposedly belonged to a 16 yr old female student at an all girls school. > Never saw it driven in the show though. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 04:46:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6612C0D13 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:46:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D9C2C0C19 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 14C8B1C000058 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mod002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.5]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A8E89E00008D for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:47:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Message-ID: <3ce2.3bf8e366.3dad43b8@cs.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:47:21 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350298042; bh=zlPJkjlHj8bf5p7wQulCoA+PLtmQ1EcBWrLObllXzlg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xvBkOXYlhhcvJzUVfId4+GEtusi5xLGY4zE+k2uyFtPVFWAGaFM2mGzICIgmdym79 L0RCux090lzu+Cg48Jp3rJlJva1r7IV8vOqXhfRmxvbfi9+89Rj6t3C5OyDuhVZVBo bKtvVXU8y9iX+GvIYbCGKa9dCnhi90obR/pHSbOA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:417016832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b507be9b95845 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That's a pre-13000 model with the single brake light. Dave (borderline anorak) In a message dated 10/14/2012 9:09:56 PM Central Daylight Time, ahwahneetr@gmail.com writes: > http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/tr-klink3.JPG ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 08:22:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7A32C0D13 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:22:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7E2C0D13 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so5548799pad.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5XSNeEG9xdHVUR69UDnUmhLUyQKozWIYajrcOBBC/sI=; b=GmRILckfEheTnqXhj76IjNxn2Un3nCFDV5GuTxeTizMb6ukNFFGtsKbG03dr/XxfXU 05Cl8wcu+SRWVmsiDm4ywi/hFJHqddAhknOYLzl48sfF4Z8QLp9lbFZAkJbI8FlVngvd 70OHFK5vw+NbKJqmzW27I3L1RxASvG+6Ch2TAxP7XiZQQOFwj9uFV/Xw/DM4dFImDpAJ /Bilm/b1oNOm4fTEPLh4bb5RsCJ/Pq0gOvWR0eZ7lWuM+57PEbE4PZ9Rw6JLsCBQQYmV WH4nCl4yntE8DPr9xrzumxrLPeM/QBk2NF74bHqZRdxbotF4oqtMCZzewBNVcP9yyBj2 ldOA== Received: by 10.66.85.10 with SMTP id d10mr33425102paz.52.1350310909292; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tw2sm7941519pbc.34.2012.10.15.07.21.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <507C1BF9.6070601@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:21:45 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> <818591ED-B931-4F25-838E-FB333E053547@flash.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget that the original 21 Jump Street series had a TR3A that was a regular. Scenes of the outside of the building often showed it out front. The car belonged to the female lead in real life and she used her personal car when she had to drive someplace during the show. And never forget that Ducky drives a RHD Morgan plus 4. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 08:23:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708182C0D18 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:23:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FF22C0CCA for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:20:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9FEO3NA003757 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:24:03 -0400 Received: from core-msc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 86301E000085 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:24:03 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CF784285000B45-1798-43603@webmail-d043.sysops.aol.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <8CF784285000B45-1798-43603@webmail-d043.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joe Alexander X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 37078-STANDARD Received: from 216.51.203.118 by webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com (205.188.252.88) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:24:03 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF78F7DC2CCB30-1318-11D2@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.51.203.118] Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:24:03 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350311043; bh=uiMyMOYnTxRA2Gp8UsHejeVhWqpwV2Y7/07HPNYvuGY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MNmAoJv49NH3fff658VRN4MqOuYbTDUdrz0erTmPAnmgNYwBbOzRCiSuPyVa1aauA cVRLl4vvjq672XPWb+5C77+Z8XTdus6QXGLJXPX0zj2BOMLSJL4d5rsk6NaUuLEBWf Hr+tBCJw9qAzMQHgZriJq1HlFPfXwD401mBjHMqc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:297464992:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb507c1c836ae4 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] REPAIR PANELS FOR TR4 FRONT FENDER/LOWER AVAILABLE X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have a want or need: List, Keith Niehaus developed the tooling to produce subjectrepair panels.The first production run is complete.Keith is a master craftsman in manufacturing engineering and carrestoration....he did Uncle Jack's "OLD BLUE". Also under development is the repair panels for the TR6.NOTE: If anyone is going to be at the VTR Convention, Keith plans to display themthere. There are a few pieces available right now. Contact: n197tr4@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 10:58:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243622C0D4A for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:58:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617AE2C0D42 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:58:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBY00JY01YWC930@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:01:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:01:36 -0400 Organization: Carl Message-id: <002c01cdaaf6$bcf37140$36da53c0$@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: Ac2q9rxiG27MOh6rRKqluMVzk6a/Uw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3A Electric Fan wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net See image of final installation at http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/Electr icFanCircuit.png You may need to cut/paste link into your browser if team.net splits it into two lines. I changed the wire colors from previous version and added an alternative switch configuration. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 11:12:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C952C0D1E for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:12:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA742C0458 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:08:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp3UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=tx65fijbbMAA:10 a=2K43tk8GGlmAQZefv9gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4F/6B-11677-4C34C705; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:11:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <3ce2.3bf8e366.3dad43b8@cs.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:12:56 -0700 Message-ID: <176a01cdaaf8$5274f3a0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <3ce2.3bf8e366.3dad43b8@cs.com> Thread-Index: Ac2qwtGSwrXZtYRwRS2/LVuPN+YmsAANSvFw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > That's a pre-13000 model with the single brake light. > > Dave (borderline anorak) Actually, I believe the change point for the single brake light was 15601 in the US. Meaning my TR3 is only about 30 from the end. Randall (just borderline) 56 TR3 TS13571L daily driver 71 Stag LE1473L awaiting engine rebuild 71 Stag LE2013LBW awaiting (manual) gearbox rebuild ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 12:34:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826ED2C0D16 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F420A2C0CAA for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:36:49 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:37:16 -0500 Message-Id: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [TR] Window outer seal issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I recently replaced the outer seal on my driver's side door. (Hate those damned clips!) When I roll the window down, the glass "pulls" the seal down along with it, folding the seal over making it very difficult to continue. Unlike the seal I had before, these seals from Moss have no "fuzz", which allows the glass to glide nicely. Any advice other than to replace the seal with one that has fuzz? Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 13:07:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAF52C0D4A for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:07:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B912C0D43 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:06:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so10501174ied.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=N8KMtSxbHuIrttiPxB6oa1fGk5Er2X1v0zsAkYQa5Tg=; b=auMhXW9G6Ea9UZ7ZjstBpybAyCoIMCsTHFVFawtOWVTZX0nTc+lNokDizNHBD570F9 43jsYdZACEX23Z/SvCR1HDVDESQM1ThhdR8jCgKQP8dFpa0LNebqL7KrMxntm89DM2qT Re+YHa9Y4uH2i75tqupITXCqzbGnzID0L5QI6HTjVp7V0ahxHgH+OFeBd01b1PWdrKyk k0QPHHFTWmywXPuSTmjlpjVCUpeSWuB8BeVRCyG/gtKpGfqNf+WC3wpjGARGaQ/VWhPf 45VA7ItdIc3nBLLhTe2oC5JUH5MXcSYgTtS/ufbbKIZvNAyU8D67VielxxZtR6FwwqGr GMcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.32.74 with SMTP id c10mr9735540icd.36.1350328209789; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> References: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:10:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "G.D. Huggins" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Window outer seal issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps the 4A is different but I don't think the TR4 had any fuzz on the outer seal, just plain rubber that presses and curves up a bit against the glass. Geo On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > Unlike the seal I had before, these seals from Moss have no "fuzz", which > allows the glass to glide nicely. > > Any advice other than to replace the seal with one that has fuzz? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 13:16:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9D82C0D45 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:16:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D072C0D31 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BP2i1k0050vp7WLA1XGN9M; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:16:22 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([67.187.140.79]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BXGH1k00H1iyodP8RXGMLS; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:16:22 +0000 From: William Pugh Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:16:16 -0700 To: TR3/6 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Why can't these "simple" machines, just be "simple" to fix? 1957 TR3, the fuel gauge is lying on me b& claims to be FULL, but the engine said "EMPTY" ! If the float had sunk it should say empty b& right? If you remove the hot (green) wire the gauge should read empty?? Still reads full. Correct voltage to the green wire. So b& must be a faulty sensor ?? Innocent minds would like to know before we start ordering parts. Thanks for your time b& "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 13:17:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601B02C6CD1 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:17:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494D2CFCF5 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:17:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MBY00H5Q8CW1L20@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:19:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Geo Hahn'" , "'G.D. Huggins'" References: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:19:36 -0400 Organization: Carl Message-id: <004001cdab0a$0442ed10$0cc8c730$@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: AQKGfibt5CO+tCSB0fen2vVBEWltjgJThtwBljZ7LPA= Content-language: en-us Cc: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Window outer seal issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Could the seal be installed upside down or inside out? The curve (as George says) should be pointed away from the glass and out from the channel. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:10 PM To: G.D. Huggins Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Window outer seal issue Perhaps the 4A is different but I don't think the TR4 had any fuzz on the outer seal, just plain rubber that presses and curves up a bit against the glass. Geo On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > Unlike the seal I had before, these seals from Moss have no "fuzz", > which allows the glass to glide nicely. > > Any advice other than to replace the seal with one that has fuzz? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 13:32:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAF32D0155 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:32:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com (mail-gh0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAED02C0D44 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gh0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r1so1462815ghr.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:30:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=/O6ZQO3m4ae23UpuY62l1YqZqdnPjIpaSaOfdMlIuTg=; b=Y8ls2EbN1SnYoQtip4lv3mfk5CWkU4YUVNVhPmGPv5AE3Uxg55W69HNxlrcJ6kTb+g bCmJtI0rGTo0RVoVuoZUtoR3m4EKbHxRP/6m59yISE3CqEvy8UFULiyeIms9zpH7U3CK 7LTMlqm2qHGGi1qfy6fw1DCVeIS2S9CE0It/fNkXUMzom+d2bkVxURH29KF/Z201R7Co 2UYRGqAPccUJaw92PdxIiUR/qjMlx7nbueUShJU6dy7x5W5Dh9QNtCKodVKucM/R7LWE JRTLu3Z0qM1sePksDdE7QKZ+6otUims4qt8ZauyHSUK5nzobodF8IiBMs4Lf+PVBCU2R HsPw== Received: by 10.236.142.48 with SMTP id h36mr11681291yhj.110.1350329426995; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([184.88.120.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m3sm1148560ank.22.2012.10.15.12.30.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: John Wise In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:30:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: William Pugh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My dowel-pin dip-stick fuel gauge works fine, 3very time I use it! :-) John On 15 Oct, 2012, at 3:16 PM, William Pugh wrote: > Why can't these "simple" machines, just be "simple" to fix? > > 1957 TR3, the fuel gauge is lying on me b& claims to be FULL, but the engine > said "EMPTY" ! If the float had sunk it should say empty b& right? > > If you remove the hot (green) wire the gauge should read empty?? Still reads > full. Correct voltage to the green wire. So b& must be a faulty sensor ?? > > Innocent minds would like to know before we start ordering parts. > > > Thanks for your time b& > > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a.60@gmail.com John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 13:32:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D622D0150 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:32:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308BC2C0D44 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so10551685ied.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8lwVKj7rl5o1WA7N2K81iTnqOuL+wIN9SK0k5AO3MQ0=; b=Tu+mqFYhp1WVRIhtEeO4MzFTRWrKvC+uZa5vAP4qi6wmQYkFORFvrniEursGERkwvu AiWu2TbOhEECiOuj0Rm8oipXVOUethqt63OfXPWSWkBGhiXcnf/Aol+PZvG2M1rYCEKo CoFubGVY45AIO/pdACZYWusjeifcuawbFSvgrvoN4WYlEVLtcyW6AyE2k67aQMAxSRjw lT0G2ndtcSdoddzG9m4CGSt36dXd5qt4IfypsUI+IfJmLqNMbU27CARPqMPRa2CqHUjX pN3YzkvUN/4C1YqlLs6ti1shByFTvtVCl1tzgd/rU7zfaeuQ3bdZNiEfomX9DTE6stQ9 us1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.1 with SMTP id no1mr9849085igc.64.1350329669670; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.44.233 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> References: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Andrew Uprichard X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My objective is to repaint cheaply in red primer for now until I can afford a professional paint job. (probably many years down the road) I have to rub it down anyway so I'd like to remove the blue and expose the red and save on the coats I'd have to do. Hence the question Sujit On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Is this even possible - and why would you want to do it? The red underneath > will never be good enough for a nice finish. > > Andrew Uprichard > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sujit Roy > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:07 PM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] wet and dry > > A stag I'm working on was poorly resprayed from red to blue. My hunch is > the > guy who did it didn't prep very well. I'd like to rub it down and expose > the > red , but not cut into the red. What grade/number of wet and dry should I > use? > > Sujit > > -- > Sujit Roy, Realtor > Cupertino, CA > (408) 839-8359 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > > -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 14:18:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A32C0D4D for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:18:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF392C0D4A for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 20:17:10 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.113] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 20:17:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 20:17:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 911945.30904.bm@omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 72452 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2012 20:17:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=hbj7ee9NoeM51E5t5wWz7unxNYCSXYRt6KR+ZMCpEP4MDHIkXT7zX0LVULOHQq2avBvRDfvwmOrkmr9+CapPbkXofKy/6b++hEHjCl4MUuiPgLF0g1f4WGJranBYhtfbuS8AFzZJd7aNV23y1CWpghMSLNKZfxLp8T72+6/9WTY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350332229; bh=mfpZe2cUB/Q/2SdT3DzCUCIML2+GEtBCnWD3e953TOQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=jrrN0olOZJDMuYAivBebnG4Wd2cG8Lq+UWQNRFiVk5LmiSptkdLtq4UEeOrsNdHrOa6CjjvfsfB3h2jMS86BLzsM91wa8vbW+DPm2MsgFBaetfC2L72lasyAoF4nO69rqY17+0BRWO2oStIkxrCdXpl9NRUbc0XzkPrByCPz04A= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 7uqZGooVM1kraIk7FgXVet8uXuHQG481bW8hxXjB4GWb9Ln lk.aC2mYZj6UqG2SVaVxJfzs16layhUIA9ZVSlGJUJAqwG6GVt2yzhs6tl1n d_nKtoXnPlrT5HqJtc9j1qE8O.IbGMeqN.afXn20g3la146uPw2NA_f1Huch isJuW73WgCMYtsvvpBgn3w9BQpbcZL5vxz2_kAKBJhIlm4VcXmHhl5CrgL0C dorzMXvl3v.WiifMsPRvcpIW5OWmJa80mpvPlJi4zgxXQ9.lqtwHA5m5mI7K mVOAvgEEAafIGC5hJuXfjYHTwdOpRg6Qz6.jxP5P2GDJbeaJFWzFGVJmN1RL 8uHqA28z3W0SMdYP5o5au1L3gAaro0_H39zENfEZG6IS.t0rWNQsUcu.Ki13 zl3D5IEI8kFHfiHIp2TTI29srAxtOZJ3VwPk2vee8doK2YadbuD2MpRonlSy Mxj4O0vJnbgGKo2hMQxv6OTDTwuldZIvDbhn9w37QtshSH8YAYSaIB1OXoym 6sjzyKJqpaztHqWo1x2oxPzI_R4.NcQICedtFIMgXA2tHHVB2Mv0ItV5uHy6 f_tqK2XnER81dKbpzAgoED1OwMAG3qfYuAeQxeM6hCJ2W7f_N7Fem2kTlP0S IAz99K.Zwx0Ttqw_x7HiumwqiXjbX7b8tQeY1mpOsm_UQo2Tses8SzqeE X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2012 13:17:09 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'John Wise'" , "'William Pugh'" References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac2rDEk4maOVXmV8SmSRxNsQsaTMDwABQ5hA In-Reply-To: Cc: 'TR3/6' Subject: Re: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Check the ground at the gauge before you go any further, also you did not mention the ground wire at the tank, it needs to be there too. Typically, the gauge is self-grounded through the instrument plate but I found running a ground wire from the thumb screw to the grounding post to be more stable. Before you buy parts, remove the gauge and float then test it on the bench to be sure. My gauge read 3/4 when full and the second it hits "E", you best plan on pushing it to the station. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Wise Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:30 PM To: William Pugh Cc: TR3/6 Subject: Re: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge My dowel-pin dip-stick fuel gauge works fine, 3very time I use it! :-) John On 15 Oct, 2012, at 3:16 PM, William Pugh wrote: > Why can't these "simple" machines, just be "simple" to fix? > > 1957 TR3, the fuel gauge is lying on me b& claims to be FULL, but the engine > said "EMPTY" ! If the float had sunk it should say empty b& right? > > If you remove the hot (green) wire the gauge should read empty?? Still reads > full. Correct voltage to the green wire. So b& must be a faulty sensor ?? > > Innocent minds would like to know before we start ordering parts. > > > Thanks for your time b& > > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a.60@gmail.com John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 15:19:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AAC2C0D45 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:19:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD71B2C0D45 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:18:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so10768224ied.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o3kroq+jeWWd4nWqg68FFj61pirTXGL5iUnxXGfcafE=; b=AlF4AGODaUrqv2XUZgq2H3qlchYiQ5186twZFofrYqVIGdX/NQQYTQH75cAxXadKoe 9rVBeTrDly/W5mWLDaEb6ktEIs6K74M8UNGao6jZLkLEQvoobLG4L8HjHqeEyjQlYmMV wuUxxOs4zjBot21EgXKk3XyIqCvsFpw76QMRaHtKyjmwS9QOGNqj3XjLkbQK42pfJRQl W77nm7OCZXhPkhf/f0GANvR0PevaAr65mOCPtwgVzIcUZjcYqYRICIjHXJ32iYeyWeIh MqSr/KvWN3QS7718pDOp9L/AK11pnKWSEIBKyycC8ymji6/Ok3U8fIFnKCuzximfjw26 zXow== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.158.201 with SMTP id ww9mr10322646igb.22.1350336092153; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:21:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:21:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you haven't seen it, this site on the (very similar) MGA fuel gauge is quite thorough... Fuel Gauge Tech Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 15:21:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1A82C0D44 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:21:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95652C0D42 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAE42E055 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <507C7F1D.5080005@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:24:45 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs References: <1350319009.40076.YahooMailRC@web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1350319009.40076.YahooMailRC@web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1350319009.40076.YahooMailRC@web80808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: [TR] Fwd: TR3A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This was sent to me, I assumed it was meant for the list. mjb. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: TR3A Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Geoghan To: I ordered and purchased the TR3A new while stationed with the USAF in England. It followed me through 24 years of military service and still does. It has come to need repairs that I am no longer able to accomplish and need assistance. Items needed are mostly because of being garaged for the last ten years; i.e. brakes, OD, clutch, transmission; wheels etc. Please inform of possible restoration possibilities. The vehicle is located in Michigan. Thanks much. Tom Geoghan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 15:40:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572462D015F for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:40:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5F2C1786 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 21:43:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.8] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 21:43:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2012 21:43:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 468147.98990.bm@omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57414 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2012 21:43:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350337436; bh=xId/y1oaandv50V0LY/hcdvsqrmtfaIoY4HHYx5Ht3U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aHC8qqbVpOg7aNGFBdPkDUgfAvKo3P76hKySQJlP06yZ2dUysi0nqKZ3zdJHYSnPE6SgjlqTvHuqnQUdhAl8oE2ZVvj7jZL/GTOa7SWSW0EPr8CFQ8COKutkNKV42KzbNNt9WPjN7WsAV1S7V31p3SDLeiY1ZSeJzJMrrcaqUSw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m03fOPZKOpYDuXsAk53F5R3AgHtskOi7mhM/bz6QOSfrwwqAJLZfiid3MsQRg8QpKWfCRPCllQCh4vN4K1nFMaWwOq8qNAqJbqEQNzQLVxmeoIBllBLDUXSPCUsACSwU/aOlAY2Tc+pq2DV6JgnDnTW7vNAv8R4AIpReCAVnaTY=; X-YMail-OSG: fU9e7BoVM1kD8xT8sQr_H4Vz6eg7ldOhISWpeXFiBVnU.c9 UEpx7nlXTPm.KpGoImtFcLlfZUYsaDorWFKhQx0T0ZYXiRc1SSMXX0jQaPa1 EuFTtC7GuSGAUr8Nh6XxI3z9kXE2RLGX0sR3jfqr.up6SfZf7fXInpMT4hlT oRBhowUKBLLsoucYcROLBJy7Q.0eDYr249jw1H_envuytTY_N.4puPGE5koC 2NPb8GWDNefIEScE8r6q1Ab7TVt1r6jSW8zAKRU.pWeUwgUkwjvqU9ZbKgt3 Y2HnN48Fzvgh7OUsBaf949orlP5ZE3Qv4ZZcC9X2vbiX2jo5_btLOBcWGB1d qLz3ixWhQIg_8p9u_SZSCx9CbGLRnZk4dJN.xxpC_lGlIIdeKqBA81UGZMvG E_Vq0myIEfwD_wkM3heQmW8N_zgR5mC1SLRgRVwV7PzdzgVdWrhiTe1Ak3zS lIkf_Bp97dK4c5nt3n.hauebtr.dZ_1HlrFdRYL6PMm2Lh08X9qLBSgORXf4 cnc9JnYv.Fv9K313v5d.d5VkKeJrZ1B6DLKBkFgLadXJUTLpTnwmkwseB2Rm _DRx7zrX.SHfaMKnbRa7pvjPeZgD51ZK0lT9VpMzYieU4vt5dbb2mE8Saacf HmGfotM9jooWLxJnTP3OVkGkyig6yKhpjkDkjraEswuMk2EOUeYN4JO8grw- - Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:43:56 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, b3IgY2hlY2sgb3V0IHRoaXMgbW9uc3RlciBsaXN0IG9mIHdoZXJlIHlvdXIgY2FyIGhhcyBzaG93biB1cCBvbiB0aGUgdHYvbW92aWUKwqAKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5pbWNkYi5vcmcvCsKgCkZyYW5rCgpGcm9tOiBHZW8gSGFobiA8YWh3YWhuZWV0ckBnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBXYmVlY2ggPHdiZWVjaEBmbGFzaC5uZXQ.IApDYzogIjxUcml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4iIDxUcml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD47IFJvbiBMJ0hlcmF1bHQgPGxoZXJhdWx0QGJ1LmVkdT4gClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgT2MBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <006c01cdaa77$4d7cb120$e8761360$@edu> <818591ED-B931-4F25-838E-FB333E053547@flash.net> Message-ID: <1350337436.39613.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Geo Hahn , Wbeech In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "" , Ron L'Herault Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net or check out this monster list of where your car has shown up on the tv/movie http://www.imcdb.org/ Frank From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech Cc: "" ; Ron L'Herault Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 on TV There are also a couple of TR4 episodes. Here's some crude stills from the two appearances mentioned: http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/Perry.JPG http://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/tr-klink3.JPG Geo On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Yep, there is another Perry Mason with Werner Klemperer (Commandant Klink) > driving. > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:49 PM, "Ron L'Herault" wrote: > > Was watching Perry Mason on ME TV and spotted a light colored TR-3. It > supposedly belonged to a 16 yr old female student at an all girls school. > Never saw it driven in the show though. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 16:44:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6952C0BFE for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:44:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300342C0D4E for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so3310656dad.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LUA5SjutZ8KyOE0t64OZS6fn6sl5/F/PhCuNydEtJCI=; b=ZJvSU8TUDKuxPYHsTTOtETvjx0rkKo7NoweXbg6I1oTrTSmkAsLDrkvpLOhXt7Pwxw 8mx5CuPtBygh8/lzcBfgiZf2sGsVQapkNhtMjAdXpZ52tay+na6/QjkUzEtT5j3kMDRX MnWeHTM0d97QSPFKTKnoZlOMYd9f46Tv+EgflSIHIEqOC1dxzyEZkVmMRp317egYcFCd gmVtpcuSQ2QY8zs5U+jzjUOYsygS5lTjPwrXCKuCoZj57AuTR+xce5HbxKBqH9DWu/q9 ll/VlG2nqdJgyHktC972O8yCl40kyn79NbtzYFNHtO4KSG2Qw7EcG0GOZ04PgBvSSSys tS8w== Received: by 10.68.238.34 with SMTP id vh2mr41778789pbc.6.1350341210839; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w4sm9717031pav.27.2012.10.15.15.46.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <507C9256.9060805@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:46:46 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <005201cdaa67$07298f50$157cadf0$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] wet and dry X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/15/12 12:34 PM, Sujit Roy wrote: > My objective is to repaint cheaply in red primer for now until I can afford > a professional paint job. (probably many years down the road) Will Robinson warning, warning warning. Most primers are porous to moisture. Can look good on the surface while starting rust underneath. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 17:11:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E0D2C6CD2 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:11:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E132C6CD1 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BQpt1k0071zF43QA3bErtN; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:14:51 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BbEp1k0034L5TyG8kbEpMu; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:14:50 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: G.D. Huggins In-Reply-To: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:14:46 -0600 References: <04BF9147-FE9A-464B-8D0C-4B37B06ADE71@GENFINITI.COM> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Window outer seal issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try a little dish washing soap (Dawn, etc.) on the seal a few times and wash the window with it too. It really makes things slick and it'll wash away after your window and the seal become friends. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:37 PM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > All, > > I recently replaced the outer seal on my driver's side door. (Hate > those > damned clips!) > When I roll the window down, the glass "pulls" the seal down along > with it, > folding the seal over making it very difficult to continue. > > Unlike the seal I had before, these seals from Moss have no "fuzz", > which > allows the glass to glide nicely. > > Any advice other than to replace the seal with one that has fuzz? > > > > Cheers, > > Guy D. Huggins > 1965 Triumph TR4A > CTC 63569LO > > Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 19:50:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC132C0D4E for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:50:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DED2D01A1 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FBF0GcUwAh0A:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=NNMPN8AtauNG3kIS7uQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:38295] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 66/DC-18765-C2EBC705; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 01:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: <20121016015348.A1OTM.25284.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:53:48 -0400 From: Randall To: TR3/6 , William Pugh In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Lying Fuel Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- William Pugh wrote: > If you remove the hot (green) wire the gauge should read empty?? Still reads > full. Correct voltage to the green wire. So b& must be a faulty sensor ?? That is not correct for a TR3. The TR2-3/A/B fuel gauge works backwards to the later gauges, open circuit (high sender resistance) is full on the early gauges. If you short the sender wire to ground, the gauge should go to empty. The other thing to watch for is the ground to the gauge housing. Again the TR4-6 gauges do not care, but the TR2-3 gauges require a secure ground for proper operation. Without a ground, the gauge may go to either peg, empty or full. Although the factory apparently relied on the ground through the mounting bracket, I advocate adding a ground wire from the mounting stud (under the knurled nut, preferably with a star-type lockwasher) over to the ground tie point on the back of the instrument panel. Same discussion applies to the sender in the top of the fuel tank. I have added a ground wire from the ground stud on the sender down to one of the bolts that clamps the tank to the body. Gauges and senders do fail, but check the simple things first. PS, I haven't read the entire thread, so my apologies if this was already covered. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 15 20:38:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3862C0D44 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:38:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0662C0D22 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 20:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so5443000qcq.14 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9/wN/5I1zpfRaBELIDu1gEGtw36uyBpR/IQ25F76bb4=; b=tu6UqhQ2oBGbj/hNzGi8oSjewCgbNYnx3ydWOXy7S2MuKPgA+981ac/UDaf4jE8eVU iYUprFPHmymrvmqA2gICqnXBDhFF9H4PKSDw6Wn/IRX8gg8R+i2kx7rPYwEz0lAWW6qU tDE85fSpx3LB9e1oWiXREWUiGRJWcIPyGQPICz3Z5mZlODTurQEuko1Fx9l3w1UCGGvb 7gOoWpQiUv0mK/K3RE8k1QxlVIYnXsBLxsnK4GBdWRLV6oXYVtGh4N1KWXbT+U80joFQ 2QyXk1VEnxTb0qYikZf78vbxuQ0jlhMHaGXCVVRCB+P4Oai5DlNYUg3kl/xV1V8c6cBd TxMw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.14.193 with SMTP id r1mr32514084qec.50.1350355287836; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.116.130 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:41:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CF78F7DC2CCB30-1318-11D2@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF784285000B45-1798-43603@webmail-d043.sysops.aol.com> <8CF78F7DC2CCB30-1318-11D2@webmail-d170.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] REPAIR PANELS FOR TR4 FRONT FENDER/LOWER AVAILABLE X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Apparently can be seen on ebay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/61-68-Triumph-TR4-TR4A-TR250-LH-Fender-Repair-Panel-New-/120997498314?hash=item1c2c034dca&item=120997498314&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr Nice. On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Joe Alexander wrote: > If you have a want or need: > > List, > > Keith Niehaus developed the tooling to produce subjectrepair panels.The > first > production run is complete... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 07:35:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274C12D01EF for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:35:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3723D2D01CC for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 13:34:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 13:34:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 13:34:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 928162.22616.bm@omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 88365 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2012 13:34:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350394471; bh=Db6WEq3FA7etaAztyvhLqSebFK0LuWqP5D/hFiVlS6E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y5mthEVGJ4cyqmHoAd0fgjeytFnxKlzYk9R3sfFjOvMnwatpFH9jmjXewqtgg2iYGZieue4t2+jI0TjT5oPqYt/hgx0CLZZIoyTLcdRFQwA16NbDpmkCGucM0d/E+XaSuOsFPryWXwFuWcqpWMJ/DK8TyhZ6tCw2YfV5tB6MBY4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mR20L8KnodCFcLJSLXz7/OT/Y1aMXY5LyHs4X2V1lsFkMJm4gyYs5LnyhgNiw0uslQtF9jyYaF7gKtb4mYr4Q26bCAA28bPXzeeunO/BJ9+0y0dBXuJt5c2VvUIqhacNdzsczdgT3EiLu07yHtteAL16aYQIV1Nno1Hl6+kBU+c=; X-YMail-OSG: QFtc5.gVM1kdx1Vlw67gIFNenB7sXigCWqTpLwrg29sA8DX 7q_Cd0JEdCPcxdwWce0Rl0P.SvhzjG.povR90eB547mONJzfZgZjH7KYflpk L_lXVRtr.cCMcVTlCT5QobJgjyQl1JcEtsh5a8cyL79tQkSaC8HyDperPkK2 gZWwFeQ0kDatwPNKpGsmQZN3whfOLU6SGmGIZ80qL_7EKmGtgh_wuTmd1CXH FQD0aNGmIa5kDP_TM3mBVEbRzVoSyhVJp2y.vAyfqozaPaGX4tZb5OQS17UN 6Bj1uv0MRc12f.dyZSnz466gwkxxT44kkCSGDTcBg.PW22JeUEgbrhwA0uB0 AG77fYs1xvQKY6ptktpch11KkovJ3YX.SGAGuxYq_yzT7NBekvMe8M5AnLHQ MI1uNKYSVinpA2IYWMIjr7dl9LvV9NjLL91YIro0eEW0DjC.MQ13Rlhc9plt Wh7zvAqTtMxwMaaIDBfHC0kOnI0jQQVKkWWMEq3bbtL0- Received: from [75.5.230.241] by web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 06:34:31 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, SSBvcmRlcmVkIGFuZCBwdXJjaGFzZWQgdGhlIFRSM0EgbmV3IHdoaWxlIHN0YXRpb25lZCB3aXRoIHRoZSBVU0FGIGluIEVuZ2xhbmQuIApJdCBmb2xsb3dlZCBtZSB0aHJvdWdoIDI0IHllYXJzIG9mIG1pbGl0YXJ5IHNlcnZpY2UgYW5kIHN0aWxsIGRvZXMuIEl0IGhhcyBjb21lIAp0byBuZWVkIHJlcGFpcnMgdGhhdCBJIGFtIG5vIGxvbmdlciBhYmxlIHRvIGFjY29tcGxpc2ggYW5kIG5lZWQgYXNzaXN0YW5jZS4gCkl0ZW1zIG5lZWRlZCBhcmUgbW9zdGx5IGJlY2F1c2Ugb2YgYmVpbmcgZ2FyYWdlZCBmb3IBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/718 YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1350394471.26154.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 06:34:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Geoghan To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [TR] TR3A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I ordered and purchased the TR3A new while stationed with the USAF in England. It followed me through 24 years of military service and still does. It has come to need repairs that I am no longer able to accomplish and need assistance. Items needed are mostly because of being garaged for the last ten years; i.e. brakes, OD, clutch, transmission; wheels etc. Please inform of possible restoration possibilities. The vehicle is located in Michigan. Thanks much. Tom Geoghan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 08:07:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513E92D01FA for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:07:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AF32D01D8 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so3742052dad.14 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=Rn4p52jf5zpSsfz8BVzdf1VtRrgA8EYhiT5Kz1OsLkk=; b=uO8B81VBsTDQvsmQ7FDLTnvDR4+FwybERtlvSElTcO5X55I46bypfSOislYfNkzgb6 6eDO7u9VImDPerq5MeaH50XBp/EDSJIOnVm3nArFHiFaSZeD4wF4oGKJ3YeE/+MDqpYZ 3ob2v+HY6NGbdndwwXp0H6LHvMXmiOcH/hcYXVKT5+eks39AqjF4/4Ybmu+NpxboE/lm xVD76U22EMY3rMP+t+4PhZHm0WmBDVMVwSUs447IasuM9MRbEoXAuanb8LHsXkz1i5uB jHSmTpvf+eWNTa4hZz1qec35A8WwqpPXydRb3OJwKkcUxyKiqVgmzDX2l8JKPF6xB6W0 AKHw== Received: by 10.68.131.39 with SMTP id oj7mr46501226pbb.148.1350396652903; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id py9sm10844900pbb.20.2012.10.16.07.10.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:47 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had an interesting experience yesterday in the grocery store parking lot. A family was standing around looking at my TR3 when I came out of the grocery store. Of course as I approached I asked if there were any questions about the car I could answer. As it turns out the 14 year old daughter has her heart set on having a TR3 when she gets older. According to her parents and older brother she has been researching cars for a couple of years looking for a cute roadster/convertible that wassimple enough for her to learn to work on. She is hoping to find a tired driver that she could restore herself. So of course the family had a lot of questions and I let her sit inside one for the very first time so she could get a feel for the interior. She got her picture taken behind the wheeland I think became even more determined to become a future TR3 owner. Unfortunately they suddenly decided that they needed tobe off before frozen food thawed and I did not get their contact informationbefore they drove off. But it was nice to see that I wasn't the only girl smitten by a TR3 and was willing to take restoring one on. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 08:24:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72A72D0210 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:24:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671D12D0206 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 14:27:57 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 14:27:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2012 14:27:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 697598.49655.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79176 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2012 14:27:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=ff3JOO24RC1L7k2wwn+PxLthZw8QTN9aItEgsznhYJWZQbSm5anDyEA9aJnTzDqBBcv+7I6O4to2kHA63vNAw8CAxXTZd4oRxGx/pstpgxGu7DUzjvZtDAEGRDb951dwYHSAotMkmkt6faS8rFFGdjZK3u5jy0igeCyGFWKA1/4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350397677; bh=2+5cnGL3K+ZpHCsGXFAYiEV+CnPkAB4MLwPTtJme4vw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=Nxi2APk67dekcQYv0LM01ywD20PnZ8sEBbthVNxs3yaJ7a3IdK5UE4kEm8ljr/Vsaz6U5Tr3VKdsPLm8uZW6Z0jAf/MN5sq3HyGRaJQcSKwp/3OoepeNXYqmu/JzUOMN/3Nh4AgJvoLq50iFxg5XuIGDdpvd2hz8LA72dikL9IE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: V5p6iX4VM1kUZ4LlqXRW1F02xW8jSuwmw1baRLugMouHFoD QZ1GDj1zInnDepIxRS0_21Idv2NV0k4TPgx0F8QuMYpj6h_bTWaxGAGMZUem Ri.MYQ2s3gn.lBYAkfUYs_lKwx338njaEggsS_5xjLf.aUcQAYG._RTJmYqC rUXhvejq17HaF2ebdpcHElJvXSSJ7nGPLG1SlKwkqNCWucT1oB5Gjroh_FC9 Khb2Vl1YQgIhc_DDeQ_9lKPOZDAVtBZnfJbKuY3GIpSOY1MUCEesUqy3EvPi f28cw5bq8AIjmGGF4an5yYaRALewSff43n1b3KpTUayNk4TW2zSMI8epLTcS I0C_Sh8zceYrK0t_L.9PHmCKFPI5XeHPHPlxgnIOBbuR3ZjdNeShdMrBfL.j _MbkTRGL1gOAN1HpNvTAUFr77fu8eT90J5QeKCRTKDqiDKoq4_i9MaYt6rA7 jtUAM3mujJ8rdiKdU..xEknQd0rVK94bCJD_S0R_Rg5T71xnkue76vb2c8oB WOHLytJ96ZsWor8Jer.WkzuXzir0GcgypqOlkvaTZPupzuU8b8mDV13DYn4E qr0qsCTkYw9IA1eoodo1.QjT0kA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2012 07:27:57 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , "'Triumph List'" References: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:27:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: Ac2rqCqH3hnRJGsHSGKE+is8BJakCgAASJfg In-Reply-To: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Train up a child in the way that she should go, and when she is grown she will not depart from it..." (or something like that from the book of Proverbs). I always try to let the kids sit in the car, under supervision of course, it is so unlike anything they would normally experience. Well done TeriAnn, now we just need to find her a project. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:11 AM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Interesting experience I had an interesting experience yesterday in the grocery store parking lot. A family was standing around looking at my TR3 when I came out of the grocery store. Of course as I approached I asked if there were any questions about the car I could answer. As it turns out the 14 year old daughter has her heart set on having a TR3 when she gets older. According to her parents and older brother she has been researching cars for a couple of years looking for a cute roadster/convertible that wassimple enough for her to learn to work on. She is hoping to find a tired driver that she could restore herself. So of course the family had a lot of questions and I let her sit inside one for the very first time so she could get a feel for the interior. She got her picture taken behind the wheeland I think became even more determined to become a future TR3 owner. Unfortunately they suddenly decided that they needed tobe off before frozen food thawed and I did not get their contact informationbefore they drove off. But it was nice to see that I wasn't the only girl smitten by a TR3 and was willing to take restoring one on. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 08:42:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9612D01D9 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:42:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway15.websitewelcome.com (gateway15.websitewelcome.com [67.18.72.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67D72D01B8 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:42:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 4342A776EA375; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:45:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBC9776EA301 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:45:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TO8Ol-0007fl-1E; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:45:35 -0500 Received: from 184.169.163.152 ([184.169.163.152]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:45:35 -0500 Message-ID: <89fcbb8b289dc06d46ce902ca99d4784.squirrel@www.automate-it.com> In-Reply-To: <1350394471.26154.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1350394471.26154.YahooMailRC@web80807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:45:35 -0500 From: "Lee Daniels" To: "Thomas Geoghan" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator52.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32208 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - automate-it.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Source-Auth: leexray X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGVleHJheTtsZWV4cmF5O2dhdG9yNTIuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tom - What a great story - and congratulations on being the *original* owner of a great classic. I'm not sure what you're implying here - I don't think you want to sell the car, right? So it seems you either need help with some of the work, or do you just want to pay a professional to get things fixed up? You don't say where you are in Michigan, but a good start might be to get in contact with the Detroit Triumph club - see http://www.detroittriumph.org/ You can also search for local/regional shops that specialize in restoration work. A quick search for "british car restoration in michigan" turned up a number of hits for me. This one in particular might be helpful: http://www.classicjunkyard.com/restorers/MI.html Are you near Vestaburg, MI? A place called Lee's Car Care came up - one of the reviews said "Lee did a restoration on my 1960 Triumph TR3A (British sports car). He did a great job and his price was very reasonable." Lee's Car Care (989) 268-5160 2999 N Crystal Rd Vestaburg, MI 48891 I hope this helps... Lee (in Texas, but with a computer that speaks Michiganese...) > I ordered and purchased the TR3A new while stationed with the USAF in England. > It followed me through 24 years of military service and still does. It has > come > to need repairs that I am no longer able to accomplish and need assistance. > Items needed are mostly because of being garaged for the last ten years; i.e. > brakes, OD, clutch, transmission; wheels etc. Please inform of possible > restoration possibilities. The vehicle is located in Michigan. > Thanks much. > Tom Geoghan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 14:01:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5342D02A2 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:01:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342B92D029C for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597732E046 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:02:30 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Back when I had running race cars I'd take one to the club's annual show. Part of the registration packet were nice placards for info, and they included Please don't touch in bold letters. I'd toss that sign, had my own that said Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! There are quite a few pictures around taken of kids of all ages doing just that. Oh, I would disconnect the battery so that flipping switches and pushing buttons would do nothing. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 14:47:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682502D02A9 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:47:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF5F2D029F for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:46:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W107 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:50:07 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [70.62.204.114] From: marty sukey To: , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:50:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> References: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com>,<507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2012 20:50:07.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[D337F950:01CDABDF] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A few years ago I took the race spitfire to the TRF Summer Party. They had the car show downtown that year and there was my beater spitfire parked amongst the beauties. A woman with some youngsters was walking the line of cars, she was a local and it looked like they were not rich. The one young man, maybe 4th grade ish had stopped and was giving the spitfire a once over. I walked over and asked if he wanted to sit in it. By the look on his face that was the last thing he expected to hear. Really, go ahead I told him as I opened the door. He looked back at mom and she gave him the ok and in the drivers seat he went. He looked like he just saw santa clause! I'm pretty sure he dreamed about being a race car driver that night and it made my day also. Marty > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:02:30 -0600 > From: mark@bradakis.com > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience > > Back when I had running race cars I'd take one to the club's annual show. > Part of the registration packet were nice placards for info, and they > included > Please don't touch in bold letters. I'd toss that sign, had my own that > said > > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > > There are quite a few pictures around taken of kids of all ages doing > just that. Oh, I would disconnect the battery so that flipping switches > and pushing buttons would do nothing. > > mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 15:18:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3DB2D02E0 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:18:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACB32D02C3 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:16:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so6121320iak.14 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gWQ14Ju4Is2avv7pykQSiyDEhbmJ64u++hGRBmnGYuw=; b=REzM8H/nbsnnH2FOL5QKT9mEOmQPz+3cXLuUw1RG81tpK7UwE6+TJfWWB43nlL9BR5 b0V56kA9iCXXB8oCR1SLjKskyqtppIOVHQhm4O/QKhDp9u0G05wyJxYvN+lGwLGsdGbO HDP8PGDWk6J9Zlnv7X4MATuV77xV0Ga459HTEP9q4OZIdxMvvYdl3lfVvo8/Ylyaq0mk Un+++ootTqZOfYRLmKNCLlu0NHBLrz1ZZp2t9gt5jUr/iQsr8ZqZsZUNeXvN3Lpuiu9I yIVITwAk4DZyU840A7uRebyIqKFGurSCqtl87gKufVJFRDCv/dtLV/MC0kPEXL2hR4wn XUIg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.69 with SMTP id zu5mr13633296igb.23.1350422398118; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> References: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> <507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Mark J Bradakis X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > I usually tell them that the horn's been giving me trouble.. could they test it? 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Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:33:54 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, QkZGIGFuZCBmZWxsb3cgTGlzdGVyLCB3aG8gaSB3aWxsIGFsbG93IHRvIGlkZW50aWZ5IGhpbXNlbGYsIGZvdW5kIHRoYXQgaWYgeW91IGxldCB0aGUgaGlnaCBzY2hvb2wgaG9tZWNvbWluZyBnaXJscyAoYWxsIDUgb2YgdGhlbSnCoHNpdCBpbiB5b3VyIFRSMy4gYXQgYSBob3Qgcm9kIHNob3cuCnlvdSB3aWxsIGluZGVlZCB3aW4gdGhlaXIgZmF2b3JpdGUgY2FyIHRyb3BoeS4KwqAKYnV0IGhlIGFsc28gbGV0cyBldmVyeSBsaXR0bGUga2lkIHdobyB3YW50cyB0bywgwqBzaXQgaW4gaGlzIHZlcnkgbmljZSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com>,<507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1350423234.33486.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: marty sukey , "mark@bradakis.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net BFF and fellow Lister, who i will allow to identify himself, found that if you let the high school homecoming girls (all 5 of them) sit in your TR3. at a hot rod show. you will indeed win their favorite car trophy. but he also lets every little kid who wants to, sit in his very nice award winning TR3. Frank From: marty sukey To: mark@bradakis.com; "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience A few years ago I took the race spitfire to the TRF Summer Party. They had the car show downtown that year and there was my beater spitfire parked amongst the beauties. A woman with some youngsters was walking the line of cars, she was a local and it looked like they were not rich. The one young man, maybe 4th grade ish had stopped and was giving the spitfire a once over. I walked over and asked if he wanted to sit in it. By the look on his face that was the last thing he expected to hear. Really, go ahead I told him as I opened the door. He looked back at mom and she gave him the ok and in the drivers seat he went. He looked like he just saw santa clause! I'm pretty sure he dreamed about being a race car driver that night and it made my day also. Marty > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:02:30 -0600 > From: mark@bradakis.com > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience > > Back when I had running race cars I'd take one to the club's annual show. > Part of the registration packet were nice placards for info, and they > included > Please don't touch in bold letters. I'd toss that sign, had my own that > said > > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > > There are quite a few pictures around taken of kids of all ages doing > just that. Oh, I would disconnect the battery so that flipping switches > and pushing buttons would do nothing. > > mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 16 18:35:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5C32D02C4 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:35:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06912D02C3 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id C00n1k01R0mlR8UA10eEZ9; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:38:14 +0000 Received: from Dell ([24.5.127.12]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id C0eD1k00E0GAcNo8X0eDjy; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 00:38:13 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "Triumph List \(Triumph List\)" Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:38:18 -0700 Message-ID: <009801cdabff$b456ccd0$1d046670$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2r/7PkdpvL+FAbR/KfpfTNspFXWQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] looking for a TR4/4a/250 right front fender X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: kinderlehrer@comcast.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some friends in the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club are planning to champion a TR4 in the 24 Hours of Lemons racing circuit. They found a car in a field somewhere but the right front fender is rather badly twisted in the front. They are looking for a replacement in almost any condition as long as the front corner is salvageable. Race rules prevent them from spending any more than $500 net on the car, so price needs to be low. They can however trade parts if there is something you might need. As shipping is also an issue, somewhere in the vicinity of San Francisco would be ideal. If you can help out, let me know off list. Thanks, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 05:21:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97F92D0359 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:21:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 96B882D0343 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25275 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2012 11:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.236) with ESMTP; 17 Oct 2012 11:24:21 -0000 Message-ID: <616688CA74FD4347AA591017BEEBFE39@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:24:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] advice needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net car is a 75 spitfire, but the spit list isnbt nearly as helpful, plus the technology is similar, so indulge me please when I got the car the fuel pump was not working; bought a cheapie off of ebay and car ran fine for months. no issues. car ran fine a few weeks ago; I donbt run this car every day, but I do try to drive it every other week or so. its probably been a month since I ran it. car would not start shots of starter fluid caused it to crank up then die, so clearly itbs a fuel delivery problem there is a fuel filter in the rear (trunk) and one in the engine compartment in front of the standard fuel pump. added an electric fuel pump in the engine compartment with no luck. I canbt remember if it was before or after the fuel filter, but it was before the mechanical fuel pump. bypassed the fuel filter and mechanical pump with the electric and car ran. added the fuel filter to the mix; realized I had it in backwards in that fuel was coming out of the connection, turned it around, and the car ran. removed the electric fuel pump, put the system back together, and it ran. drove the car for about 15 minutes and it ran just fine. is it possible I had the fuel filter in backwards and it ran for a few months then finally stopped? is it possible that since this is a suction system, not a gravity flow like a tr that since I had not driven the car in a month that the mechanical pump did not have the oomph to pull the gas and didnbt work until I had bprimedb the system? now Ibm concerned about driving that car; Ibm afraid its going to just die. I guess I should keep that electric pump in the car. should I replace the fuel filter? fuel pump? the car? (just kidding) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 05:56:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E56D2D034E for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:56:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1A62D02D8 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9HBxKQc010335; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:59:20 -0400 Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0BC2AE00008E; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:59:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <39915.1fbefcc5.3daff797@cs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:59:19 -0400 (EDT) To: dave@ranteer.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350475160; bh=dCdyKScHFSIjj037jitykw83tVBo2/Fd6BE+Grxf4YQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=moqlfRjmE/PsuyRwy5vgE75zs3PHtYP25fiyp74lfnOybsN3MDzRVdyH4XcJs9Cqp isgboLf2ypAO964CzBKpfgcQzhJ1RfEP0Hq4H4FAb0bja5frOhNc2XyyqEIFhaw97D u7OqRgAmcFXi79Hec3oD3Jg9xCN6gEiTQk/1c+Ps= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:418268320:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c507e9d981308 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] advice needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It's not uncommon for the float valves in the carburetors to stick closed. Give them a wrap with the plastic handle of a screwdriver and see if that helps. If you do this with the electric fuel pump running you will hear a slight change in the pitch and you will probably hear the fuel flowing into the carb float bowl. Dave In a message dated 10/17/2012 6:24:29 AM Central Daylight Time, dave@ranteer.com writes: > car is a 75 spitfire, but the spit list isnbt nearly as helpful, plus > the > technology is similar, so indulge me please > > when I got the car the fuel pump was not working; bought a cheapie off of > ebay > and car ran fine for months. no issues. > > car ran fine a few weeks ago; I donbt run this car every day, but I do > try > to drive it every other week or so. its probably been a month since I ran > it. > > car would not start > > shots of starter fluid caused it to crank up then die, so clearly itbs a > fuel delivery problem ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 08:00:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED88D2D0396 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:00:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D4C2D036B for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9HE3diq000314 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:39 -0400 Received: from core-dlb002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.197]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 77CA8E00008C for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:38 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: George Haynes X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37096-STANDARD Received: from 72.230.233.142 by webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.27) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:38 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF7A87570516CA-ED8-87E7@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [72.230.233.142] Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:38 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350482618; bh=P2n55g2WBKC+IYpChm9B4j1cavjFGkS8CVsnWex8a5E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CLTDKVZ4XhT+7QTqImNkaXhTOQj4hPXwH9ygx8/2/KlwFoOMNShNH8kZhfQNofo1v IU8kdCd9N1RZZnJeZ04O17Er6qB/T1px09xtwiTALWh4YH7rVWHpd0aiuTGEbvN5nP GBG1Kd4Qz7tNPmnwuRxobZP6SmAsixecvyFD65TQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:370963136:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c507ebaba1355 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Brake & Clutch Pedal Bushings X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net While investigating a friend's (1970) TR6 heavy clutch pedal operation, we found quite a bit of side play in the pedal pivots. After removing the pedal box from the car and disassembling, we found no bushings in the brake and clutch pedal pivots. No trace of busings ever being there, either. Moss shows bushings (330-285) at each end of the pivot tubes, apparently for all TR6's. Has anyone else found these bushings missing? Do other cars exhibit the sloppy pedal symptoms? We're baffled but will install the bushings to improve pedal operation. George ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 08:14:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A162D0283 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:14:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127902D034E for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9HEHm44024229 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:17:48 -0400 Received: from core-doa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.5]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 59F8EE000094 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:17:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:17:48 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [98.114.133.30] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350483468; bh=5s6zLg6hAVEPZM73TVmAcCvanJWw8pSXTrBQ8xC4BGA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gnNxdRUXvXo3IQA+IxHDKVjqs++FOPYUkK1Y1dGLoJVKJj9FhZoKH1r9fJIN/aNDj d2l8LsneTpHTvUTwEIVIx068B2dTharY+tBsAInQXyoUvPlhZAuHQ29YUWebTswB/1 AIKCvenuWN5jdn9adBYUFEp0waPdSW/8/9za5MnM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:373457984:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c507ebe0c5cef X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I'd like to replace my red tail light signal lenses on my TR4 with the UK amber lenses......does anyone know of a source for two amber lenses? I've tried the UK and USA Ebay sites and the major suppliers - no luck.....I guess I'm looking for the right person who has a pair of these stashed in their attic somewhere:) Thanks, Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1962 TR4 CT2052L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 08:32:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977C02D0383 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:32:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDF92D02FC for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:32:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=EOyEIilC c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=5W3CLJOW1SUA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=eQZIeWrvq2EA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bg4R5uljzDq0QSoHyvwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=0hxpWHbVgNMz0YBN:21 a=osALd9vife5DZoJC:21 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:49323] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 8C/49-00773-E32CE705; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:35:42 +0000 Message-ID: <507EC240.7040909@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:35:44 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chip19474@aol.com References: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chip, These lenses were also standard on the TR250. So if you need to, try expanding your search. I was able to secure a set years ago when I restored my 63. I also added amber lenses to replace the clear glass lenses on the front grill. All lenses were found on Ebay US. I do have one spare lens for the rear but the reflector pattern is different than the ones installed so it is sitting on the shelf. It is a NOS Lucas by the way. Bob On 10/17/2012 10:17 AM, Chip19474@aol.com wrote: > List, > > I'd like to replace my red tail light signal lenses on my TR4 with the UK > amber lenses......does anyone know of a source for two amber lenses? I've > tried the UK and USA Ebay sites and the major suppliers - no luck.....I > guess I'm looking for the right person who has a pair of these stashed in > their attic somewhere:) > > Thanks, > > Chip Krout > Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. > Skippack, PA > 1962 TR4 CT2052L > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 09:34:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC902D0382 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:34:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2325F2D0365 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:37:10 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.120] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:37:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:37:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 739507.53137.bm@omp1029.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 2387 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2012 15:37:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1350488230; bh=+vG6AAPFlRzzBOqHOg6ynPq4nowTw2OsyuDkJhG8ylA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eEAGNlh3bOzJkovKDjN2DXd/mTb5TMZggXWl2KkOiB/Z48P8V7EzIXBOPbq8d3wOsriIQhgjxaOX9MFet0UxaM2nmQekKMOVH8L1HbGGjxg0JVPq+NFXPfZGUkEqoLP8HomkeUBeabonyhMaG3yZKlhj4QSaVWSir9JW08TtbXM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dKibGjVQxKz/+Fx9KzbO71xjysSBRuYREZvAxS023XxjyJch6t/VejsbtPwCv6JHtVuqCwLlyu+mLAzVootcf90x6mCLw9pOxtWUGmObHJsltRfy1LkLcAeYJOhiLPiAiNyAAvGuP/mHh5FeeUk43iuNd9Rbb0xiuNobVDsDCJQ=; X-YMail-OSG: mNyePBsVM1mbsOePGHhJawwMMQy5X9_91SB31vJhvKQW2Bb 7rZsXVN.Is2yESYbjbQMO6xXdcTMzBjXtfFNsPCKVp1UuKisNxIDG2ZGrVJu Y8Wtji1ogInVBMqDWcs97_9VcJdGMIofXyno12iCj.INc8xBfTey_ji8z0b4 KqdIOT5Li70BV6ZF1H_0bao5Z2Rx4NHBM_jQUWoQvegHBNJbfsQ3QDkhVpvn bbGROSfRXpRHrfpP4yCB7yanB9o4UOezjApYBG1L1JbT.f_6NqyGnBQNoRmi TAv0cbQczXGQt6RgATKfI6QSd1LT55SyyvoIA57Ey0B.EivdwZJlrbQ.IyEb P0r.HEKdTVKaoh1Jk8jBiHnK5iEBNd9fYoG8zleL4Mq.6iDRCpeCGnAv1ClS E6.R9cql1ocIsbxker0iII67H1a6YMbu7A_r6kBIxrO7_kN7BfIJ6Bsk_VzI eectVwNufFxbwRpq4KIgEPrdHO2WPnCPiApcNhWlCV0yHP6_UyGeKqdgtCAI nx6dwzA_qujibhUYEW01TTVfLTwD3NcJoaP0LOfGLvDKXZGE3hIk- Received: from [90.199.100.232] by web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:37:10 BST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, UmltbWVycyBoYXZlIHN0b2NrIG9mIHRoZSBhbWJlciBsZW5zIHAvbiA1MTYwNDAgYXQgR0JQIDEyLjI5IHNhbGVzIHRheCBmcmVlIHByaWNlLiBSb3VnaGx5IGVxdWFscyBVUyQxOSBlYWNoIC0gcGx1cyBwJnAuIElmIHlvdSB3YW50IHRvIGJlICd1cC1tYXJrZXQnIHRoaXMgc2FtZSBsYW1wIHVuaXQgYW5kIGxlbnMgYXBwZWFyZWQgb24gQXN0b24gTWFydGlucyB1cCB0byB0aGUgREI1IGFuZCB0aGVyZSBhcmUgc3RpbGwgcGxlbnR5IG9mIHRob3NlIGFyb3VuZC4gSG93ZXZlciwgYW4gQXN0b24gcGFydHMgc3UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> Message-ID: <1350488230.89925.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:37:10 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "Chip19474@aol.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rimmers have stock of the amber lens p/n 516040 at GBP 12.29 sales tax free price. Roughly equals US$19 each - plus p&p. If you want to be 'up-market' this same lamp unit and lens appeared on Aston Martins up to the DB5 and there are still plenty of those around. However, an Aston parts supplier probably charges squillions times the price :) Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: "Chip19474@aol.com" >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 15:17 >Subject: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses > >List, > >I'd like to replace my red tail light signal lenses on my TR4 with the UK >amber lenses......does anyone know of a source for two amber lenses? I've >tried the UK and USA Ebay sites and the major suppliers - no luck.....I >guess I'm looking for the right person who has a pair of these stashed in >their attic somewhere:) > >Thanks, > >Chip Krout >Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. >Skippack, PA >1962 TR4 CT2052L > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 09:48:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6122D0382 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:48:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F652D0365 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:52:06 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.237] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:52:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 15:52:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 310129.88269.bm@omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 80490 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2012 15:52:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1350489126; bh=Xp+T6Kvdt2qJK3p9B+eFjPGfCrAiy9mPvVrErJQEOOo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nGmytBIbGVtzWAfc1uzmYi5+YF3XK0ginI3Cx+0qiTLXkxnUfEMppizxUYCq7ulENNc/3DoNtLoSdyDODVNVsNep/xUHkgHHVxTb++9oY6atkwRcLVnUhBbsWjcoVeiawLgsDqCr31i7ThN8mwEHebnHDg1DyKe9bykbAs0S5N0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uw9XFp6AkQqPULari0F1njhZu3ZJhYPoaemjmEGB2P6S2CWQ6X2s6Fnc2T1L16GPADIb2eJXeIyUTF75EBnZSUjQOVYO5UcMzvD9fH3o3rATWqoGrjzFqUaOu/SxJ/5JyWhrNXuvklTuqfCbQcKe4wvxd0wTjGtNd0kMxZhN7Hk=; X-YMail-OSG: OnuAWksVM1kz_fLsxvkHMeVEnJ.0p4qfQgzmBz1YTJRdiXc z.BqTU9jUj_I2mEKqupB81jP3fSkCUjLiBK5fKxJfU6tJu.bcOL3xlQPL8lZ s80uEyGJm84RtVohgX7tEPBz1EHwAbl.pHjIEqiFQcIUw9TBFKlJ7UolocCO s5HRzaRD8DFJer72yrWCwp3O3uCPO6ROyJaaMFfYm_Su6fDNITW7CsRJEAev kduCb5XtfE9BS7y_.8veosTFKINO145FyQNYxh3ZA0JtOfDCkIdlmX_7yfXf KYxOXSO3pVG.0vX1sA26Tc9c__BLw5BlKanB7KtQGAeaLi_Mba4y_0lopsmn 48c4_MkDh_8OUYUwS7VyqU_xyclbndNp3LmgYs63YdE.9nd6KxLgk096LMju kuK.MJ_ZmIn35oZNcYEoZEvAZyymVtU06ksr37MObd9u6fIUkEvXKJSkqW4F zT7KepsB5tQhS41wduaaUXqwqh2m3kQXWsM4EdGlTHjYWMenWCCz1D1JkvH_ ts3Cjbb9oqe3V3Ivhrx8xICXJLktoZFb3EDxP6YzyGYtowoX7hdc- Received: from [90.199.100.232] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:06 BST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, UmUgbXkgcG9zdCBhYm91dCB0aGVzZSBsZW5zZXMgZnJvbSBSaW1tZXJzLiBJIG5vdGUgdGhleSBjaGFyZ2UgYWJvdXQgZm91ciBwb3VuZHPCoG1vcmUgKCQ2KSBmb3IgdGhlIE5vcnRoIEFtZXJpY2FuIGFsbCByZWQgbGVucyAhIE5GSSBhcyBJIGhhdmUgbm8gYXNzb2NpYXRpb24gd2l0aCBhbnkgcGFydHMgb3JnYW5pc2F0aW9uLiBUaGV5J3ZlIGFsbCBkb25lICJ2ZXJ5IG5pY2VseSB0aGFuayB5b3UiIG91dCBvZiBtZSBpbiBkYXlzIGdvbmUgYnkgOikKCkpvbm1hYwoKCmh0dHA6Ly9zdGFuZGFyZC10cml1bXABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <511aa.2a8f46c2.3db0180c@aol.com> <507EC240.7040909@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <1350489126.54993.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:52:06 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Bob Labuz , "Chip19474@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <507EC240.7040909@adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Re my post about these lenses from Rimmers. I note they charge about four pounds more ($6) for the North American all red lens ! NFI as I have no association with any parts organisation. They've all done "very nicely thank you" out of me in days gone by :) Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: Bob Labuz >To: Chip19474@aol.com >Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 15:35 >Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses > >Chip, > >These lenses were also standard on the TR250. So if you need to, try expanding your search. I was able to secure a set years ago when I restored my 63. I also added amber lenses to replace the clear glass lenses on the front grill. All lenses were found on Ebay US. I do have one spare lens for the rear but the reflector pattern is different than the ones installed so it is sitting on the shelf. It is a NOS Lucas by the way. > > >Bob > >On 10/17/2012 10:17 AM, Chip19474@aol.com wrote: >> List, >> I'd like to replace my red tail light signal lenses on my TR4 with the UK >> amber lenses......does anyone know of a source for two amber lenses? I've >> tried the UK and USA Ebay sites and the major suppliers - no luck.....I >> guess I'm looking for the right person who has a pair of these stashed in >> their attic somewhere:) >> Thanks, >> Chip Krout >> Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. >> Skippack, PA >> 1962 TR4 CT2052L >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 10:14:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0413A2D039B for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:14:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.185]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DF52D0229 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail149-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.236) by CO1EHSOBE015.bigfish.com (10.243.66.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:18:01 +0000 Received: from mail149-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail149-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD25C01BD for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:18:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.241.5; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:BL2PRD0811HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: PS-1(zz1431Jc85fhzz1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bh8275dhz32i2a8h668h839hd25hf0ah107ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah1441h1155h) Received: from mail149-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail149-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1350490679148124_21283; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS023.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.247]) by mail149-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F83D00065 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BL2PRD0811HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (157.56.241.5) by CO1EHSMHS023.bigfish.com (10.243.66.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:58 +0000 Received: from BL2PRD0811MB423.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.5.190]) by BL2PRD0811HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.107.168]) with mapi id 14.16.0224.004; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:57 +0000 From: "Landis,Ronald" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Interesting experience Thread-Index: Ac2sgtszBk7kZ+kIQ0uYd2VUTWOPqg== Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [205.142.59.250] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: kentcountymi.gov X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A few weeks ago I left my TR250 parked while we walked around downtown. As I was approaching the car from the rear I noticed there was a blonde in my car, I did not leave her there. I stood next to the car and she looked up and said "Tell me this isn't your car" I said it was and she was embarrassed, however her boyfriend, who was taking a face book picture, just wanted to see the engine. It was fun. Two nights later a very well dressed man and woman pulled up next to me and said "nice ride". I said thanks. As they drove away I saw that his car was a 2012 Maserati. Its fun to drive a TR Ron ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 10:37:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084B02D0395 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:37:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501742D0387 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 16:40:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.69] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 16:40:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 16:40:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 103178.74338.bm@omp1006.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34652 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2012 16:40:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1350492051; bh=wmzsVK4VPXwoC3LPp4p9rtUw/TXzl0pLA8HHNWddNQI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JBlbAACMdHhDWGUpiCYi/cC9vAQm0OlF0vzQu92C6+n/ooJGeZ8O6QI5bcGGKMyKDWE1FmxURkRvHut/Mcv2ZmoPaW+0PWC7nDDkbh5Yr6ZIbf5Sj04DKfehfnAhHW2ZgAuaEYwOzGSczjjUPnTayDSKteM6yDUBDtScxXfbHpY= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D7bwQY0dSaccJN3gl2/CptvEEV2TQtrPlSllULodfXDOf19F5RNskb5As7UI9se52KSDK2qgS1brIvn+qKqBsBFciwQKRMqnAeiMuXqp+gJmEV3ORwOzBVuRcvN4+7mltg8iMrVdxxFh7uBnm7LT/vXKE/DFWDTatK+C5TIds6I=; X-YMail-OSG: gUjGMG0VM1mBpGELV3xHVzxL94On3Ij6jPCgfrfiVESnk8N VzpKOBDxGp71hh1TgKWXfVSfiup6b8a9hCo49sEnxVYtA8j1Pi00zR.pjG8m Il2rW00rGP6KpZ50pH5XkEwOwOgGVLo8skdhypnWdZ5nBW1vrzWKGFyPG8UI pDexYuyB4a72qMBndkqRD7ydbTnH6sFluwm6RyRouGNFe4hW86WwQXGEILfY VYLsin9.xu..lazLNLjMrMOtC71jGtQaHV6HVnP8g8rHGtcMpwMBKjb3MF7O Kje1691d9TziSs5PjPFS2smDIKjZMbaIwerjvVdhK7QDV63nxnPLLOI39UbZ QXAy_6O_bgiijf4rpzrBOGFtqS2utJ7lU2HT0TxvomSo37JDpa8DCRJiQG55 Tc_sMFuhgkkyGUJNBgzJsi_sL.6xyP.LzQrTENWqHHo245Qq9QwIztmBw2GN I62g8Gjva9U3WffIIMjy_n5CoyAAiIX4CIgE09oId7LJG.USQ.pDoX6Ca5uM GlUKBNKm6yIAIMFWp7QfEm6g0ACCdyOCrtwMo6aDMMf2kjSndL39CmfivQwp 8IQOei5ehEAmrUeUsgbQst5DWpwfFNMgrDfmAQc8mih8QeKW1r5YuoavCauC .ElfjRZB2qypJdt8WWMA.NCgY8qHYYJgiIcr1VDq6QA-- Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:40:51 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, wqDCoMKgwqAgSSBsaWtlIHRoZSBkcmFmdCBleGNsdWRlciBvbiB0aGUgZHJpdmVyJ3MgZG9vciBpbiBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIGxhc3QgcGljcy4gVGhlcmUgaXMgYW4gYW1hemluZyBhcnJheSBvZiBvZiBzaWRlIG1vdW50ZWQgcmVhciB2aWV3IG1pcnJvcnMgaW4gdGhlIHBpY3MuIE9uZSBoYXMgaXQgb24gdGhlIGFlcm8gc2NyZWVucy4gQW5vdGhlciBpcyBtb3VudGVkIHVuZGVyIHRoZSB1cHBlciBkYXNoIGNhcC4gT25lIGlzIG1vdW50ZWQgdG8gdGhlIHNpZGUgb2YgdGhlIHVwcGVyIHdpbmRzaGllbGQgc3RhbmMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 Message-ID: <1350492051.63669.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:40:51 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Geo Hahn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Draft Excluder & Rear View Mirrors X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like the draft excluder on the driver's door in one of the last pics. There is an amazing array of of side mounted rear view mirrors in the pics. One has it on the aero screens. Another is mounted under the upper dash cap. One is mounted to the side of the upper windshield stanchion (i would like to know where the mirror came from). Another has it on the plexiglass draft excluder. Triumph guys are inventive. I mounted my rear view mirror on one of the windshield stanchion mounting bolts. I've never seen it done like yours. Bill in Tehachapi Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:19:57 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > I usually tell them that the horn's been giving me trouble.. could they test it? TR Kids Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 10:50:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796162D03D5 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:50:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FDE2D038B for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9HGs1fA022740 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:54:01 -0400 Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E081E00009C for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:54:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <56594.95fccdd.3db03ca8@cs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:54:01 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350492841; bh=nmskATtzBMxOd0oIyrqivZqYY26QCQJE22dXUbOXhCU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e5g8bYGe3Pu0Y8063guz4u8zwv0tOjoF++SSREn8STMS1MgbsnjH/HylG/VG6S9ZP GQKRmIo4taZundM7mUtzHFb9OR0FxCDzlV+lZ+fBZehfojbCi7tFkj5CyHHFnUvyoJ vyQH1z98Xmo0+OXrr7N08MdfQkxUS6gDDe1LlPb4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:280820768:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909507ee2a97376 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, but then you could say: "Those taillight lenses are from a Martin, Aston Martin." Dave In a message dated 10/17/2012 10:37:20 AM Central Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > Rimmers have stock of the amber lens p/n 516040 at GBP 12.29 sales tax > free > price. Roughly equals US$19 each - plus p&p. If you want to be 'up-market' > this same lamp unit and lens appeared on Aston Martins up to the DB5 and > there > are still plenty of those around. However, an Aston parts supplier > probably > charges squillions times the price :) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:00:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99972D03B8 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:00:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031232C0D28 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so15098784ied.14 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=S+RoLVpUFoBpiV6ICCzwK5LXXCw87PvzpOUQy9WylNg=; b=d3KPbj9QtJobMSYIcQ8MWyknApXzNFEjUDa1D5hpbhu+PX2EarkqsXBbSnfI+iPkxV bOhMQqMDKDwhZLpKqxuODQYQjV+uyGUBAFSCkWz//FT2+ehNqQXFGSmSY4+qQ2gaxHzk s2dgbrBJf0CMucFqZkC+xOGrZFd6JCfMtV8vzwYbAh+nPFkslM9yyVFvn2x0KpFbp/Rx mhqCltGSoHSKtdqdkd+bjyd3ghT232m39FeQxcknOSLXyi1qfUMugaGjvAKoHmtgkKi8 hiZOFwgX/BzE3j96ZzQtj7hoF/yBPl92WFrY9tRm3Ynplwe9ehMbbwj1yW9vNEsPL6dY s9QA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.169 with SMTP id vx9mr2296133igb.22.1350493382713; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1350492051.63669.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1350492051.63669.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:03:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: William Brewer X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Draft Excluder & Rear View Mirrors X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM, William Brewer wrote: > ... One [mirror] is mounted to the side of the upper windshield stanchion > (i would like to know where the mirror came from)... > Moss has them, though they no longer list them as a Triumph part. Quarterlight Mirror p/n 165-175 Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:01:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B673C2D0457 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:01:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.130]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F22D2D03D3 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 17:04:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.174] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 17:04:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 17:04:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 477703.49514.bm@omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 88339 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2012 17:04:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350493445; bh=CxnUjguRapHqF+lQCmC4GXBC4o9EhO4K+D4oA1e3Kyc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2y2xuSj2ZBn4THtyNz+Q1oxV76eyP0tBmdfw7SmMGeh2pcGoKJ7voggqPTbZtHSU/mh9Z3RyUt+o/YrWs3/uPoz4G2Ov7kjhd45lDrtke9neWRVKP8Q71FMunnCegMDVAnaS2daglZIUryCCtorOs+KBpLadCrmR+12pKic73PY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gmATqGpV2ok2LllTjSMdQDGAmTP5G1EA4HCH2wmlOPKQ60ziQByQboj94tVzaBDsxQztl93vpqjJEZy8dwGe/L3rezHZeifLOLxgvdj3qBdxXIfr/6BV6f36UMo8hFkGauh7xGSt4dCLgufhU3b+nRN9bP4eNYOdh6wFdXFS4BU=; X-YMail-OSG: eey.p5EVM1nH3YR6_ERHCpjBT5D4qHXqTbCi7IlkAeJEH5A k31HDkfMpD01zmDDaTfrUetln8hFVMUsDvOPC3Vyt.T6XY4vtp9BI9NyJOLD 8l8VTBHC7rrTAi_19UFqOKSTRzyw_AGgwhLG559Hv1TO6pwjEfuU3HpAtznO 1XIWyygYRbiY4cUuo7AWeaEl52qBU1zHa21DQows0CDfyh23wDNa0GbXWkZT ZdZp2NoWMQGbZNQp5xWKi6DWAhgE2G4kwHwr7UIB8vIwk.meqPzHzCPl8LyY RigFk88BYCMd34.PKMP2bxAX6QaUoaLIQyg1SCnt9X8YirIz_WtXAP3f2cb4 C089cu1_yJ8RS5zYkcEDyeqLFY_CyoHbe7qGjTlzDsz8pBzB7FYBsGfYS2dM fVmokbmdwGIf5EsM1IeOUqiOXt1LSfv9ZB8_kqtnlUAsbMMK8VRBZ.90Fqw8 ntDtobPrKBtKEji4Vmh3tRROJYL5RgJVGTfMkmxKQo9nBZAvo818v.X4Nhdp 5GHPbWwgK0mDeM46Zqnk5OiQp94SYLUqs9YiCHTdacMGI Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:04:05 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, eW91IGFyZSBmYXIgbW9yZSBmb3JnaXZpbmcgdGhhbiBtZSBSb24uCmlkIGZpbmQgdGhhdCBibG9uZCBwcmVzdW1wdHVvdXMgYW5kIG91dCBvZiBsaW5lLCBhbmQgd291bGQgaGF2ZSB0b2xkIGhlciBzby4KbXkgZnJpZW5kcyBhbmQgaSBsaWtlIHRvIHZpc2l0IFRlbWVjdWxhJ3Mgd2luZXJpZXMgaW4gb3VyIGNhcnMuIHRoZSBjcm93ZCBhbHdheXMgd2FudHMgdG8gbG9vayBhdCBhbmQgZGlzY3Vzc8KgdGhlIGNhcnMuIGFsbCBUUjMncy4KaSBoYXZlIGZvdW5kIGl0IGJlc3QgdG8gd2F0Y2ggb3V0IGZvciB0aGUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: Message-ID: <1350493445.84610.YahooMailNeo@web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "Landis,Ronald" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net you are far more forgiving than me Ron. id find that blond presumptuous and out of line, and would have told her so. my friends and i like to visit Temecula's wineries in our cars. the crowd always wants to look at and discuss the cars. all TR3's. i have found it best to watch out for the drunks and allow them to sit in the car with me present. not knowing how to open a the door on the TR3's i have caught them attempting to step over the door to gain entry mainly for photo op's. best be supervised than left alone. i also hate them wanting to lie on the bonnet, no matter how pretty they are. Frank From: "Landis,Ronald" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:17 AM Subject: [TR] Interesting experience A few weeks ago I left my TR250 parked while we walked around downtown. As I was approaching the car from the rear I noticed there was a blonde in my car, I did not leave her there. I stood next to the car and she looked up and said "Tell me this isn't your car" I said it was and she was embarrassed, however her boyfriend, who was taking a face book picture, just wanted to see the engine. It was fun. Two nights later a very well dressed man and woman pulled up next to me and said "nice ride". I said thanks. As they drove away I saw that his car was a 2012 Maserati. Its fun to drive a TR Ron ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:03:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346782D0391 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:03:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897942D0383 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so15106026ied.14 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MmDw14Kurr/6bE4EztGbivox2xW7KL5lOmlA57ebKb0=; b=glTx147yrxp1JgiFeuJuTCpKxeFDGjcyF48WIFTarZzQgQLqJeDGHcIdel6ZP/sm9k KeNyCHS2P3PX/wgOJ0Sm6cCAJnQJIf341k0kYty4pcaJtRgQsINWXK/SSnYJKnpTgMXD R4NMvUn/WziB13k3ZmbF1v9ppznaIUDAuXAx4B40oT/LFZWY9+kXt+eps7aTo2IFQfzD H8t0/NTBhxDygX9fab1bMm70CBXFqf31feNgAvyInAwEo7P4qWGZ0fEyzWQyt2J2/iJR rpu+91Bnuyfo2dXOQzsOtixSNKz4eDQUGaNq1RqaPPxE13BilO544eQQnQJ763FY9PqG pg0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.201 with SMTP id f9mr2220934ign.44.1350493597483; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56594.95fccdd.3db03ca8@cs.com> References: <56594.95fccdd.3db03ca8@cs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:06:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Dave1massey@cs.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM, wrote: > Yes, but then you could say: > "Those taillight lenses are from a Martin, Aston Martin." > I like that. I should tell people my TR3 heater rheostat is from 'Royce, Rolls Royce'. The rheostat was new in box for 10 bucks as it was only listed as a R/R part. I don't think Rolls owners spend much time trolling for parts on ebay. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:11:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0EB2D03D2 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:11:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081A42D03AB for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:11:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id WlDGGwbz4TVnFHIp for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:57:41 -0700 From: Pete Arakelian To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:57:39 -0700 Thread-Topic: TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses Thread-Index: Ac2siIRziuz4MTeDSlm7Gn7crqyy7A== Message-ID: <4D4FABA15328FC42B1AA0DEE4673548C86FD65087C@DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at dataresolution.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't like to get commercial on this, but Moss does carry this lens under part number 560-295 for $16.95 each. Just an F.Y.I... Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:27:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F74D2D03D3 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:27:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235192D0387 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CCtr1k0041u4NiLACHWetb; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:30:38 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CHWd1k00Y2xZMJ48hHWdk3; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:30:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:30:37 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Geo Hahn Message-ID: <419079488.404884.1350495037859.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [172.17.19.110, ::ffff:156.99.75.2] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What a colletion of cute-kid shots! Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geo Hahn" > To: "Mark J Bradakis" > Cc: "Triumph List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:19:57 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Mark J Bradakis > wrote: > > > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > > > > > I usually tell them that the horn's been giving me trouble.. could > they test it? > > TR > Kids > > Geo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 11:32:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA93B2D03C7 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:32:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079A42D0372 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CD2x1k0071wfjNsA3HZ7RD; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:33:07 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CHZ71k00A2yr1eL8jHZ7uQ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:33:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:33:07 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Mark J Bradakis Message-ID: <799201993.405008.1350495187195.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <507DBD56.5060706@bradakis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [172.17.19.110, ::ffff:156.99.75.2] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There is one guy who brings his early-30s Ford roadster to the Back To The Fifties Weekend (nice little 12,000-car show in Saint Paul) with the sign "Touch this car. Stand on the running boards." Makes my day every time. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Triumph List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:02:30 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience > Back when I had running race cars I'd take one to the club's annual > show. > Part of the registration packet were nice placards for info, and they > included > Please don't touch in bold letters. I'd toss that sign, had my own > that > said > > Go ahead - climb in, waggle the wheel and make vroom vroom noises! > > There are quite a few pictures around taken of kids of all ages doing > just that. Oh, I would disconnect the battery so that flipping > switches > and pushing buttons would do nothing. > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 12:45:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD622D03D3 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:45:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3612D03AA for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:45:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=CApJeUrJ3vYA:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=aehQJFGPbanOMavYz8QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.145.70.134 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:64046] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FA/F0-21565-59DFE705; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:48:53 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:48:51 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2smAY9ZJLpJ3xoSuiyAeNM0Aa36g== Content-Language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121017-1, 10/17/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn, do you think you could/would ever be able to find the girl again? If you ran in to the family at the local grocery store, I bet it wouldn't be too difficult to make contact. The reason I ask is; if this 14 year old had THAT much interest as admitted to by her family, I suggest we as a group could find, purchase, and deliver a TR3 project to her. We all need to start taking action to help keep this dying hobby alive and show the younger generation how important collaboration and group resources are. There must be at least 100 of us on this list - if we each chipped in $100, I bet $10k would find a great project AND get it delivered to her AND provide some getting start cash for parts, tools, etc. Call me crazy in these tough times, but I'd forgo getting the new windscreen for my MGB to chip in the cash. How about it? Here's a great candidate http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Triumph-TR-Project-/230864568925?pt=US_C ars_Trucks&hash=item35c099c25d I coach the local High School FIRST Robotics team, and I can attest to the great things kids can do and dreams you can inspire with just a little generosity and guidance. Brian ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:47 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Interesting experience Message-ID: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had an interesting experience yesterday in the grocery store parking lot. A family was standing around looking at my TR3 when I came out of the grocery store. Of course as I approached I asked if there were any questions about the car I could answer. As it turns out the 14 year old daughter has her heart set on having a TR3 when she gets older. According to her parents and older brother she has been researching cars for a couple of years looking for a cute roadster/convertible that wassimple enough for her to learn to work on. She is hoping to find a tired driver that she could restore herself. So of course the family had a lot of questions and I let her sit inside one for the very first time so she could get a feel for the interior. She got her picture taken behind the wheeland I think became even more determined to become a future TR3 owner. Unfortunately they suddenly decided that they needed tobe off before frozen food thawed and I did not get their contact informationbefore they drove off. But it was nice to see that I wasn't the only girl smitten by a TR3 and was willing to take restoring one on. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 13:10:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4A82D042A for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:10:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE542D0387 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963052E01B for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <507F036D.8090104@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:13:49 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Brian Induni wrote: > TeriAnn, do you think you could/would ever be able to find the girl again? > If you ran in to the family at the local grocery store, I bet it wouldn't be > too difficult to make contact. The reason I ask is; if this 14 year old had > THAT much interest as admitted to by her family, I suggest we as a group > could find, purchase, and deliver a TR3 project to her. That would be cool! Oddly enough just a minute before I read this a $100 contribution was sent via Paypal to donations@autox.team.net. I don't know exactly who it was that sent it or what list he is on. Just a coincidence, I guess. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 13:32:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2922D046F for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:32:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB292D03AB for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MC100M9KYFXVGD0@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:35:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, References: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> In-reply-to: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:36:04 -0400 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQIul8p241vU22kzkgACkHIVZvzIo5b8DXCw Expiry-date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:00:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Unless dad is into doing a lot of work - I think there are better candidates out there. And not necessarily on eBay. Jm2cw C 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Induni Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:49 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience TeriAnn, do you think you could/would ever be able to find the girl again? If you ran in to the family at the local grocery store, I bet it wouldn't be too difficult to make contact. The reason I ask is; if this 14 year old had THAT much interest as admitted to by her family, I suggest we as a group could find, purchase, and deliver a TR3 project to her. We all need to start taking action to help keep this dying hobby alive and show the younger generation how important collaboration and group resources are. There must be at least 100 of us on this list - if we each chipped in $100, I bet $10k would find a great project AND get it delivered to her AND provide some getting start cash for parts, tools, etc. Call me crazy in these tough times, but I'd forgo getting the new windscreen for my MGB to chip in the cash. How about it? Here's a great candidate http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Triumph-TR-Project-/230864568925?pt=US_C ars_Trucks&hash=item35c099c25d I coach the local High School FIRST Robotics team, and I can attest to the great things kids can do and dreams you can inspire with just a little generosity and guidance. Brian ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:10:47 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Interesting experience Message-ID: <507D6AE7.1060202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had an interesting experience yesterday in the grocery store parking lot. A family was standing around looking at my TR3 when I came out of the grocery store. Of course as I approached I asked if there were any questions about the car I could answer. As it turns out the 14 year old daughter has her heart set on having a TR3 when she gets older. According to her parents and older brother she has been researching cars for a couple of years looking for a cute roadster/convertible that wassimple enough for her to learn to work on. She is hoping to find a tired driver that she could restore herself. So of course the family had a lot of questions and I let her sit inside one for the very first time so she could get a feel for the interior. She got her picture taken behind the wheeland I think became even more determined to become a future TR3 owner. Unfortunately they suddenly decided that they needed tobe off before frozen food thawed and I did not get their contact informationbefore they drove off. But it was nice to see that I wasn't the only girl smitten by a TR3 and was willing to take restoring one on. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 14:44:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB7D2D03C5 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:44:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1A92D0390 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 20:47:13 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.254] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 20:47:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2012 20:47:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 699434.3004.bm@omp1019.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 40612 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2012 20:47:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1350506833; bh=gR7PBFSm+ZA8ROx5YUdI+64LNIYJhhP9ZAuZWnu/LYc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H4jC8YrsqUpnjRz+WSXVMp9nbp+jQtcqan4q6SIzRJanFmVcIbOKp9WFbuhNiVzna266VEOFtTv00Ey650PwMEv+JKGZEFqVj68l+k17oOfkNRvMGd5ACHVnUR7DZ3Rweo5dng5Gax0OnXPXwvOo2iAEEEd/KX6mKcZFfdlr/gs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4NvG7CMITw86HhnWfg+KoScPYxxTNj2PHXy4I2dhcpXGazsz4eDuyOljKn8CegFgnH7i9EMyVSpt/FcF1zIZvdFzTFD7AoO+f78y5Ge8xNBnqObEXMoKQ2bxOYPPGATkLQWEPaIIIueQOvmzru7XzP8qOuvoGOnPEAmKcTjPB3o=; X-YMail-OSG: JVTvU.kVM1mBqqhflRPOIl790HsSYLb5T7adZUCmCtVZjI9 36tE8No6Q Received: from [90.199.100.232] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:47:13 BST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, SSByZWNlbnRseSB3YXRjaGVkIGEgZmlsbSBvbiBVSyBUViBhYm91dCBhIHlvdW5nIGxhZHksIGZyZXNoIG91dCBvZiBoaWdoIHNjaG9vbCBhdCAxNiB3aXRoIGZldyBxdWFsaWZpY2F0aW9ucyB0byBoZXIgbmFtZS4gU2hlJ2QgZ290IGEgbG92ZSBhZmZhaXIgd2l0aCBCdWcgRXllIFNwcml0ZXMgKHllcywgSSBrbm93IGl0cyB0aGUgd3JvbmcgbGlzdCkgYnV0IHdoYXQgc2hlIGRpZCB3YXMgYV9tYXppbmcuIApTaGUgYXNwaXJlZCB0byBydW4gaGVyIG93biBIYWlyZHJlc3NpbmcgU2Fsb24gYW5kIHRoaXMgbWUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <003c01cdac98$0d2afd20$2780f760$@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <1350506833.39247.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:47:13 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I recently watched a film on UK TV about a young lady, fresh out of high school at 16 with few qualifications to her name. She'd got a love affair with Bug Eye Sprites (yes, I know its the wrong list) but what she did was a_mazing. She aspired to run her own Hairdressing Salon and this meant two days a week at school learning about hair and make-up etc etc and four working as a trainee. She saved her pennies and bought a real basket case of a 1960 Sprite. Dad said that if she was that determined he'd help her if she asked him - but she didn't. So she went to night school to learn how to cut steel sheet and weld. Then she did a course in mechanics, followed by another course in painting and she read every book she could find in the local library about car restoration and the mysteries of Lucas. Bless her, five years later she'd finished that Sprite. It was drop dead gorgeous (though she was prettier) and on its first outing to a classic car show, she won Car of the Day. As a result of all that determination, she then won sponsorship from an Enterprise Forum and opened her own Salon and, apart from still using her Sprite, now has two more Salons on the go. Pretty good going for someone under 25 who made up her mind she was going to do it all herself and especially someone who isn't afraid of hard work! Jonmac ________________________________ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 15:35:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEC02D0411 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:35:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2526E2D037E for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170136pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MC200IV344BURC0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.238.190.118 ([96.238.190.118]) by vznit170136 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:38:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Dean Tetterton To: ghaynestr4@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <23455491.250653.1350509915417.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [96.238.190.118] Subject: Re: [TR] Brake & Clutch Pedal Bushings X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is common to most pedal assy. They are soft bushings and disappear quickly. Does make the pedals work better. Dean On 10/17/12, George Haynes wrote: While investigating a friend's (1970) TR6 heavy clutch pedal operation, we found quite a bit of side play in the pedal pivots. After removing the pedal box from the car and disassembling, we found no bushings in the brake and clutch pedal pivots. No trace of busings ever being there, either. Moss shows bushings (330-285) at each end of the pivot tubes, apparently for all TR6's. Has anyone else found these bushings missing? Do other cars exhibit the sloppy pedal symptoms? We're baffled but will install the bushings to improve pedal operation. George ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 15:37:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3672D0457 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:37:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043D12D03BE for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121017214016.DAND24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:40:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id CMgG1k00E1bBNls05MgGEw; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:40:16 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=jAXA38P_poEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=6_nXu3OVsKAFm6dz1e0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <507F25C0.3020200@charter.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:40:16 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List References: <616688CA74FD4347AA591017BEEBFE39@Spitfire> In-Reply-To: <616688CA74FD4347AA591017BEEBFE39@Spitfire> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121017-1, 10/17/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] advice needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/17/2012 7:24 AM, Dave wrote: > is it possible I had the fuel filter in backwards and it ran for a few months > then finally stopped? Are you saying you took the filter that was in there for several months and turned it around, and you're now running the fuel through it the other way? That's not a good idea. I suppose it could have been clogged - when you swapped it round you cleared the clog by washing it downstream to your carburetters. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 15:57:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7802D0486 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:57:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8592D033D for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:57:46 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:58:14 -0500 Message-Id: <83511B44-A7EB-43C3-B293-F929C0F22B9D@genfiniti.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Boot Top Snaps X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I just got a brand new boot top for the TR4A. Installing the lift-the-dot females (7) and snaps(6) along the back edge was a breeze, and the car looks good with its new clothes. However, I still need to add the snaps to the interior, for the boot top to secure to. It looks as if I need a snap on each B-post, as well as two snaps on the extreme ends of the rear deck (at the top of the vertical wall coming from the floor boards). Does anyone have any guidance or photos of how the boot top snaps into the interior? As always, I appreciate all help, and am loving driving the car after eight years of restoration work. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 19:05:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89532D038A for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:05:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3349E2D038A for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT123-W26 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:07:58 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.212.159.186] From: Rich White To: Dave Massey , TR owners List Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:07:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <56594.95fccdd.3db03ca8@cs.com> References: <56594.95fccdd.3db03ca8@cs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2012 01:07:58.0102 (UTC) FILETIME=[02EDBB60:01CDACCD] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The name is Bond, James oh never mind... Rich White Central, IL USA '63 TR3B TCF###L That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car! > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:54:01 -0400 > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses > > Yes, but then you could say: > "Those taillight lenses are from a Martin, Aston Martin." > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/17/2012 10:37:20 AM Central Daylight Time, > flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > > Rimmers have stock of the amber lens p/n 516040 at GBP 12.29 sales tax > > free > > price. Roughly equals US$19 each - plus p&p. If you want to be 'up-market' > > this same lamp unit and lens appeared on Aston Martins up to the DB5 and > > there > > are still plenty of those around. However, an Aston parts supplier > > probably > > charges squillions times the price :) > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 21:29:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31942D04AC for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:29:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC282D0438 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:29:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=PucRnnw3 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=xWKeXfyZY3EA:10 a=wgCb7Rlu0bF0NwSKfhYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:55318] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6E/8D-19056-5487F705; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:32:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4C2CF0F01ED645389D9180BA9111B009@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: , "Mark J Bradakis" References: <799201993.405008.1350495187195.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <799201993.405008.1350495187195.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:32:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a co-worker who is active in the club for a certain fiberglass bodied, v-8 engined american sports car that will remain nameless. I have gone to some if his club's shows, I swear not only do many of them have their own, personally made "do not touch" signs but some have such inviting additions as "owner has been known to eat small children" and other such inviting things. I find this discussion and the examples cited very refreshing. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 21:36:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443342D04DC for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:36:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9222D0467 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCD02E068 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:39:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <507F79E5.10401@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:39:17 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: <799201993.405008.1350495187195.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4C2CF0F01ED645389D9180BA9111B009@GregPC> In-Reply-To: <4C2CF0F01ED645389D9180BA9111B009@GregPC> Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greg Lemon wrote: > I have a co-worker who is active in the club for a certain fiberglass > bodied, v-8 engined american sports car Bricklin? mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 17 21:59:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FD62D04AB for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:59:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F026B2D0496 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CTXo1k0031GXsucA6U2rLe; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:02:51 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CU2r1k0062yr1eL8UU2rNh; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:02:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:02:51 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: John Macartney Message-ID: <705067069.430908.1350532971063.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1350506833.39247.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:69.180.154.189] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A number of bygone British phrases come to mind, but I am cautioned by Lotusphile Mike Causer that I sound like Bertie Wooster. Oh, what the hell... Jolly good show! Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Macartney" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:47:13 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting experience > I recently watched a film on UK TV about a young lady, fresh out of > high > school at 16 with few qualifications to her name. She'd got a love > affair with > Bug Eye Sprites (yes, I know its the wrong list) but what she did was > a_mazing. > She aspired to run her own Hairdressing Salon and this meant two > days a week at school learning about hair and make-up etc etc and four > working > as a trainee. She saved her pennies and bought a real basket case of a > 1960 > Sprite. Dad said that if she was that determined he'd help her if she > asked > him - but she didn't. > So she went to night school to learn how to cut steel > sheet and weld. Then she did a course in mechanics, followed by > another course > in painting and she read every book she could find in the local > library about > car restoration and the mysteries of Lucas. Bless her, five years > later she'd > finished that Sprite. It was drop dead gorgeous (though she was > prettier) and > on its first outing to a classic car show, she won Car of the Day. > As a result > of all that determination, she then won sponsorship from an Enterprise > Forum > and opened her own Salon and, apart from still using her Sprite, now > has two > more Salons on the go. Pretty good going for someone under 25 who made > up her > mind she was going to do it all herself and especially someone who > isn't > afraid of hard work! > > Jonmac > ________________________________ > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 05:24:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BE32D04DB for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:24:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091B02D0467 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:23:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9IBR4lr010849 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:27:04 -0400 Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D6BB8E000086 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:27:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3d3eb.26b53e0.3db14187@cs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:27:03 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [68.188.78.74] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1350559623; bh=l5ADlR//6mza3FPPXMhJEnazHH/m77yR6N1Uo33QYeI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eaxbuWrPZdExkiR5bpuxzEinSaKpgl4ZrzDpsk7W895nMHaGv7WeT1W9PPuxuX+x2 aBN683xw3qZLsXWP/r9VurOQe/X9VOCorDqPk/d1GcDcLuYCEHSEIv34Ts945ZLLj2 0JrxbzVW+aoTSPOrQISI2ZUKcDLSCaZzMFW8R7GE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:406241280:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb507fe7875198 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Amber Tail Light Lenses X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some years ago there was a comedian on TV talking about James Bond. He thought that would be a good pickup line but the gal responded "Lost, Get Lost." Dave In a message dated 10/17/2012 8:07:59 PM Central Daylight Time, rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com writes: > The name is Bond, James oh never mind... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 07:58:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AA42D04FD for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:58:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5772D04CA for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.120] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 250411.32476.bm@omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20555 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2012 14:01:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=DpGhM6ONS58Om67381SmUDTbrU0g0rriq+iD0xPzcxoX2l9hGy39zGSHuayLDS98oM4aQJT0L2GqDLdWwFJWv8Caqt6TWFI3tabhanALzY2DKy0aHa/IjloGrwRg6FtRqkcjxKGWLbBm3mJPQ6U13Az7wUVRt8c9qfGAoGN2ugo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350568879; bh=B2a6oq2btW+WxMqenTO594CLGfy0HBfo2ukp9rO94QQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=DtaWryaqDL6gIDR/vXooSbUxLVtoARdjIpsussE+nn81M4st5+eCqZBO2m7dpeCVIvQj8qeH5lvULc/3epOyqCO50VGCnpHYoUunvDJQ51NMy5xtryz4nwGdmQNuI5ZlsCCoF0Iol7r57kZL5zLTN0ewdXCMl/klCwqbnOjtzHA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: CkOuKbkVM1m4LSv43I.NR8uhFoE4_c_cFDw6y0hu9LN3.md FJhzaiKFKmK2f0RgwaW.BOZzr7X2C3woRO_H2o1iuBq27mvLZnfnB7L7WOGs flNZ3j3UF_V6CZ7Q6ZlNCC1VY6f1JhzUcVyzH5UVh93CJg.LFAQsT.Cpo8Pu bdhdnv1.6iLJSQvDzjnL0EICsT0IfGZ5NK.qlUQBsQyKYyGFzH2LuryiPlYC znezFxcgSQdgSmwozNNEHIjzENmTZuK5jg7gyQT4NmiM3WcELwRVoKzDyhCp k1PBWXR31Ogh0ILZkLrMfsZeKL_A6fmwDCst8DZKviepcIZvbtnOia_mU3mp .cW598eBYm2ZTYCdj2OwGTUVqLejDszK4EifecUAk5eQQZwEaMOvLEgsZ6oD U8BT8prKQ8M0Bcx.CHFobeZgUd41KA8xuH9ZUfrwcNpEQhwdMivx3yjs2f9u xVdPB3V3nPNW4AznZe_VZgoPzJlXTeiL3k7acuXwv6knTLCPx174GI08rxW6 bG95pdjkmGOZiBWGKblQtDnw6qbC6FdAyJwS2c6Q9J0gVK3BTZCw6qxdxsSn HMrlxaZbk X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2012 07:01:19 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <18465106878F4EBF87782A7C5415AA88@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2tOP2hRV8gESBwTC6eUmTbPJkRaw== Subject: [TR] On This Day in History X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TR3B - TCF2549L was produced. Happy Birthday Aunt "B"! BMIHT Cert says she shipped on Oct 31st, I often wonder if this was the final shipping date for all TR3Bs. Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 08:08:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9A82D0513 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:08:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A112C095D for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:08:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:12:02 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:12:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 14:12:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 609769.85200.bm@omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65473 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2012 14:12:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=h7npkYwnyHhVLn+jt98+U6O+J7ceZntQcKeuqf65kuAK5r8yYEyUJUkhQLYVTPj/LFZz9G5/DPwXOCmYJ50AAYEUts2a/q67Qnxf8ZyTUP3yPGpeDmqQCy+fuWkc7AgZ7yGmyikfdRm/TxP4vOXBJR/SP6oK+7q0wIPC2P0L1KY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350569522; bh=5FIff5IKULaGZB55tLqdinsiX8fbT78z2ttETmr4WuM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=hvb5QIkvN39YD7qLYeWFfX5lvhAzi4ErSthfa5xKIxiWoRDFCmgsblHmQsEyNXmonUjCk/e7bi3FVdFAIpibAQ+GnF+YaT+fe0R4WcwyKcyVgM1scyEIIbtsZuHtdFUV1DH9X/dhpRiUpNZTF5mpzLFBapz1JNL6vZAGnk8dQa0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: cEReBrYVM1lSt.pJIGNLyizw96Oar7rnwWCYujk.d58QgPh YVnCDQSOAOZWRJmrkToyYLSkJDC3aJCYfKVOdtxzh8RUy0fivCUNKoa7F5l2 3uU.3omBnz3D0W.36g8OgEG.X8T6IZ21gRnFFCyIdmd8TQlYCr26LDbLqc50 gZ2Kyc9IjjzII7vsMH6LZMlWPSBhwhnxYEYdKk40NGWy2yoJpYASpyad_sTs cxfClnZCReK3zANcUZFKV_HgvvIMqgCP9LDukoF6oAfKNZeuZgNewx64WvYc _Pr.rYR6uF0tp65mWbxVNeN.9tpGYF.UFB.uOrc0xH6GowRsdGEblnhWjzoU I9FWimdAn6.3ZyuiIw6eqIKWYE496xfSLKOtHrO_Bfu6cv6QvxvKIkIMSNdS ZuCJoVp0gulLVFmelI8sy4sd7Kt8e7y.Q1bEObfx2bV04QWMWxJx1RrLCvI1 VBVGmF_owo11a7k1Tem97MDYCuAkvpup3tF8FAT2qziFXyZNgzRZHTt0Q7ZS BY7WSdLGpjtr7869BnQfpB_CgrLhrrVNvxI1nXdx1Q8ZAL.Z84yIuTvs.D9S 3W6D1F7dQ8GK7_vaCawQlKA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2012 07:12:02 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2tOomQkJMN8rucR66bpzjNAmzasw== Subject: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and wondering if I have missed anything. Points Plugs Condenser Gallon of coolant Quart of oil, maybe two. AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't use it) Check the spare, 40lbs I'm sure I have missed some things, what are the lists recommendations? Also, anybody coming through NW Texas on a route that will take you through Abilene? Contact me off-line and maybe we can have an LBC convoy. I've got my Team.Net badge on the car, looking forward to putting a face with some of the great people on this list. All the best, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 08:30:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFBA2D0438 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:30:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8A12D0359 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rq2so9536409pbb.14 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:34:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=voc9WhNZJJl7vYkJLoKrWom8Qzd8c9Z25D1Fy16VK04=; b=FTf31OxJVFua0Owvb1hOg0GcivY4AVHQ4gleGBA9M5fTwZeFbyQ4jeQ85mA6kf9frp 6O/Yorwmt//mJyugg+6v5MKKBg7wCfoJgz83vEnZ9yXSRimu+qe2u4hX3A1KzpwyzTBL sI0egzSbx2etPpDmqc++EIwow4OsHUmIz/ff+LnD+t4VOZbZwnCLRtE+eJSptobOJVLj WEEgTnlaNIKSdqPPCgo4l4ptKME2ob6wkdqAdxm/Q+fzgI/7bnQyZZWpuXrn77rz4vSm 8hV3m1duWH09/aF1lsW0Y9kD25srLGI1lP5TjcALfFhm5jmsg1zYx0J6gFTOOPuVyXso 6RDA== Received: by 10.68.204.162 with SMTP id kz2mr66637767pbc.76.1350570845708; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hc4sm2098687pbc.30.2012.10.18.07.34.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50801359.707@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:34:01 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 10/18/12 7:12 AM, Wbeech wrote: > Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and > wondering if I have missed anything. > > Points > Plugs > Condenser Cap & rotor. > Gallon of coolant > Quart of oil, maybe two. > AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't > use it) A fuel pump rebuild kit takes up less space On long trips I also carry a spare fan belt and a spare set of hoses. Walk yourself through the replacement of every part you carry a spare for and make sure you take the tools needed for each swap. The right screwdriver and a feeler gauge would come in handy if you need to replace the points. A roadside assistance card with long distance towing doesn't hurt. A couple years ago on a 1000 mile plus each way trip I lost an alternator in the TR. The electric fan took the battery down fairly quickly & the free towing got me into a shop that could rebuild the alternator and get me going again. Have a good trip & VTR. I'm trying to remember what a team.net badge looks like. All I currently have on mine is the FOT badge and as near as I can tell it was the only one at Triumphest. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 08:40:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101BC2D04F0 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:40:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DAB2D04DC for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:40:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=PBJBexRkwS0A:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=WNoJnmgQ0VcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=Vckd9o_WHleH-5ytWpMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:55984] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D9/86-18765-3A510805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:43:48 +0000 Message-ID: <508015A6.9050309@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:43:50 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wbeech References: In-Reply-To: Cc: 'Triumph List' Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Be sure to bring a fresh fan belt and the wrenches to change. Also screwdrivers etc. to change points. Since I have electric fuel pumps on all my TRs, I have a spare wired and ready to go. And who would be without a roll of duct tape? Can help in a pinch with hoses to get you to the next FLAPS. The bag goes with the car regardless of the length of the trip. Bob On 10/18/2012 10:12 AM, Wbeech wrote: > Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and > wondering if I have missed anything. > > Points > Plugs > Condenser > Gallon of coolant > Quart of oil, maybe two. > AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't > use it) > Check the spare, 40lbs > > I'm sure I have missed some things, what are the lists recommendations? > > Also, anybody coming through NW Texas on a route that will take you through > Abilene? Contact me off-line and maybe we can have an LBC convoy. > > I've got my Team.Net badge on the car, looking forward to putting a face > with some of the great people on this list. > > All the best, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 08:53:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6B92D0507 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:53:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECD92D032B for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:53:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=PBJBexRkwS0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=WNoJnmgQ0VcA:10 a=BtZmuKaq4_VL-bq8j10A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=gK2vRIsIyQG9-O8g:21 a=_4t9Qu3qWtare8jT:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F7/87-18765-49810805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:56:21 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumph List'" References: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:56:21 -0700 Message-ID: <017f01cdad40$bca38e40$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2tOomQkJMN8rucR66bpzjNAmzaswAA60rw In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rotor, belt, hoses, duct tape, AAA card, cell phone, charger. Enough tools to install the parts you are carrying. DMM, clip leads. > AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and > returning it if I don't > use it) Why not just pick up a cheap one & keep it? Changing the stock pump on the side of the road isn't something I want to tackle. I scored a Facet-clone on flea-bay for under $30 (or new ones are under $50 @ Aircraft Spruce) and keep it stashed in the center of the spare tire along with some tubing. Make sure you get the right pressure though, our carbs take a lot less than your average American carb does. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 09:12:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7B52D0505 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:12:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955212D0323 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121018151523.PLMA24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:15:23 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id CfFL1k0043enFnk05fFNVt; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:15:23 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=PBJBexRkwS0A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=f70bdKHf26cCW8PHFgUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T8dgJqO1V8cA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'Wbeech'" , "'Triumph List'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:15:18 -0400 Message-ID: <005201cdad43$62179860$2646c920$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQHNt+L1WcAiIeH1OFelbTKcOnFtn5e/FlLw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some baling wire or other soft steel wire is handy for exhaust system ties-ups, broken generator brackets, etc. Also, why would you return the electric fuel pump just because it wasn't used on this particular trip? Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wbeech Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:12 AM To: 'Triumph List' Subject: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and wondering if I have missed anything. Points Plugs Condenser Gallon of coolant Quart of oil, maybe two. AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't use it) Check the spare, 40lbs I'm sure I have missed some things, what are the lists recommendations? Also, anybody coming through NW Texas on a route that will take you through Abilene? Contact me off-line and maybe we can have an LBC convoy. I've got my Team.Net badge on the car, looking forward to putting a face with some of the great people on this list. All the best, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 09:32:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038E2D04FD for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:32:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.q.com (smtp.quartz.synacor.com [205.169.121.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769B52D0382 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:32:04 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=X4pQ6vdxznSIZxlh04dE9UeGK1IrfSWUYw5WOt6q5/g= c=1 sm=0 a=tE5-iLew6ygA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=5uzyEDg2IGAA:10 a=BytK1KwQwi3X4tDZRSoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=WkKVQvwr5jXn6nRpr4AA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=hUFVA6-uRUmU_vDS:21 a=MVt/OeM/O+V7psr6YXG+1g==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.quartz.synacor.com smtp.mail=cofrog@q.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.quartz.synacor.com header.from=cofrog@q.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.quartz.synacor.com: transitional domain q.com does not designate 10.30.7.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.30.7.251] ([10.30.7.251:44758] helo=md04.quartz.synacor.com) by smtp.q.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 87/A5-17687-8B120805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:35:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:35:20 -0400 (EDT) From: cofrog@q.com To: triumph Message-ID: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <182630232.93041.1350574442094.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [174.16.157.81] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.8_GA_2685 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Win)/6.0.8_GA_2685) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fuel Pump Wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, Going to install Facet fuel pump. Any downside of using the coil hot connector for a fused power pickup? Thanks, Dan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 09:39:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048C82D0502 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:39:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8423D2D0383 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:36:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=fW9dgt1ZS4UA:10 a=NQktgbAMf7BI1C6uLYYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 9D/93-21565-5D220805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:40:06 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'triumph'" References: <182630232.93041.1350574442094.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:40:05 -0700 Message-ID: <018901cdad46$d93222f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2tRkFje0s4IzGMSeuYj4F49I3hxAAAIQVw In-Reply-To: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel Pump Wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Going to install Facet fuel pump. Any downside of using the > coil hot connector for a fused power pickup? Which car? One downside might be that it's not fused ... -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 10:10:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFC52D0502 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:10:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787C82D04E0 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:09:47 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com ([17.172.220.247]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTP id <0MC3009D3JP5YLB0@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:12:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-18_02:2012-10-18,2012-10-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210180174 Received: from localhost ([17.172.220.222]) by st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MC300066JO9RKB0@st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:12:09 +0000 (GMT) To: cofrog@q.com From: Darrell Walker Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:12:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: iCloud Mail (1L20+10304) X-Originating-IP: [15.227.185.76] Message-id: <487c58d7-d0da-c99b-b41e-d9ca45a27ad6@me.com> In-reply-to: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel Pump Wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rather than power the pump from that connection, you might consider using it to control a relay that provides the operating power to the pump. On Oct 18, 2012, at 08:35 AM, cofrog@q.com wrote: Listers, Going to install Facet fuel pump. Any downside of using the coil hot connector for a fused power pickup? Thanks, Dan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: darrellw360@mac.com'>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 10:57:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AD82D03B2 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:57:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EC6BA2D03B2 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20627 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2012 17:00:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.107.66) by p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.237) with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2012 17:00:46 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: Ac2tUaEiEwhB4PFnQu+5nAH8jwyp0w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of the holes. My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before paying all that money for the chroming. I guess I could go for a larger tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what to do. Any suggestions out there? Andrew Uprichard TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 11:08:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DBF2D054E for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:08:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863792D04E7 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MC300B1RMFRW1M1@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 12:11:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> In-reply-to: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:11:36 -0400 Organization: Carl Message-id: <002001cdad53$a1d6c470$e5844d50$@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQG8SQ/j5z/QiVX2SOrfd106hXHBUZfiFKEQ Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Could you use some sort of 'super glue' or 'jb weld' in the hole - the fastener would be installed for the duration - but that may be ok. Carl -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Stupid, stupid I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of the holes. My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before paying all that money for the chroming. I guess I could go for a larger tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what to do. Any suggestions out there? Andrew Uprichard TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 11:09:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889E12D04EF for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:09:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30D2D0507 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 17:12:08 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.113] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 17:12:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2012 17:12:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 773103.26622.bm@omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97113 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2012 17:12:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1350580328; bh=UicDPuGiXM2Std1eC3zBwejs0DZQ2Uxee+tBCe5zlxs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CLsFF3UrgdbbNxhVlmVbmQ+SFxmrzmSr4BAZll8UZ6ATtFa+KEdj3NPVR3VGeZd/y7is0lX4baflIpgNDT/dk3Qn3xSWeTipSe2dbJwApe+PwMNlQkHmYroyUoQ2YHrO361Q16pGh0L+iMJ4s5lX8ezwPxdvzZstzGDmk1axlqM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w6Q7nbkvbBOx/1Ck2uUDIWr22PZW+z/Kpwc0yvPKuJuqDFks2/j5+NHdkyNXB5th/QNrzRD7BYjVaoP4l4+IdkTgKNDHlvuJ0xoN10TUkculDlbYk7BW1LTFFR9L2KRPn4W7/28j4N3w4sPIllrHiFZ4zJSbKbcIKJETJ7FY008=; X-YMail-OSG: W0LdLGcVM1kHiY7tv6vYaupZ49NCIu_CMpIsOo4jUBD3nVv Up11hen4Y_nKbuWa2TjQ04tRffB.aJA2J5aHhk2YjjfbrDma7qBjAktqY9vA xLVbH3lKLINcMFe61Hz5zrqpR0fpjsCsu3g_562m0HssunGL.E3PEZQRQ3G. NI.R876C0Q1mK.WH63gOxCpLkvxb4n_F_LjKkH4qH434m3qosgrk1PvVLXhK lnwd2iqKc6ELPaZtO5FeM5aVxkYFaTk3pcqjJNpZLiy6d4GepBDkCkdfw4jk HSS1xO0UQY7f7tljpaitVTDlJFiQ0CMG_vrTBVEJgV2MtbZWhN0mhf0Adxkc z5aT6f.PKSot689e6wijOKcCeXpYYxHJiSF_ytrQQvrdrDJTDyCLS2O04_nx H7JNpisZWw9gV3e7pR5kHuERIMUTndq.w8rr1BF5YFBKDTPZdhqdN2Rteyiq IlAQqGRLgb7vlgAArdshtTNJlodmvg7wKzjFNntfT4qeLHsXH05H.d_AHGZp sQsiTXGEamP9XV6Ju8c_7pJw09kOBC2lx5cmdCQ-- Received: from [90.199.100.232] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:12:08 BST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, VGhlIGRhdGUocykgd291bGQgaGF2ZSBkZXBlbmRlZCBvbjoKwqAKVGhlIHBvcnQgb2YgZGlzY2hhcmdlIC0gTmV3IFlvcmssIEJhbHRpbW9yZSwgSmFja3NvbnZpbGxlLCBIb3VzdG9uLCBTYW4gRnJhbmNpc2NvIG9yIFBvcnRsYW5kClRoZSBkcmF3LWRvd24gZGF0ZSBvbiB0aGUgTGV0dGVyIG9mIENyZWRpdCBhbmQgd2hldGhlciB0aGF0IEwvQyBoYWQgYmVlbiBleHRlbmRlZCBvciBub3QsIGFuZApUaGUgc2hpcHBpbmcgbGluZSAvIHZlc3NlbCBhdmFpbGFiaWxpdHkgYW5kIHRoZSBkYXRlIHdoZW4gc3BhY2UBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <18465106878F4EBF87782A7C5415AA88@bboffice> Message-ID: <1350580328.94629.YahooMailNeo@web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:12:08 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Wbeech , 'Triumph List' In-Reply-To: <18465106878F4EBF87782A7C5415AA88@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] On This Day in History X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The date(s) would have depended on: The port of discharge - New York, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Houston, San Francisco or Portland The draw-down date on the Letter of Credit and whether that L/C had been extended or not, and The shipping line / vessel availability and the date when space was booked. By no means an exact science with many variables - and ultimately a potential victim of industrial relations on all fronts. I well recall cars stuck in the UK for anything up to two years after build date because the L/C had expired, then there were strikes on both sides of the pond and frozen destination ports. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Wbeech To: 'Triumph List' Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012, 15:01 Subject: [TR] On This Day in History >TR3B - TCF2549L was produced. Happy Birthday Aunt "B"! > >BMIHT Cert says she shipped on Oct 31st, I often wonder if this was the >final shipping date for all TR3Bs. > >Bill Beecher >'58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" >'62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) >www.triumphowners.com/1566 >'68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" >"If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" >M.Andretti > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 11:16:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7925F2D0506 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:16:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26762D04E7 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:16:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=OOOlLFmB c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=20BVOhgr0kkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dFvvo0DcAAAA:8 a=316C6Q4v5e1OEcE0MiAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:56434] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BF/03-21565-74A30805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:20:07 +0000 Message-ID: <50803A49.7030406@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:20:09 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Uprichard References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, I had the outside driver side hole get stripped so I just glued in the male with JB weld. 4 years later it is holding fast. Bob On 10/18/2012 01:00 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the > stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small > tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of > the holes. My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before > paying all that money for the chroming. I guess I could go for a larger > tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what > to do. Any suggestions out there? > > Andrew Uprichard > TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 11:19:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3302D050C for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:19:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C6D2D04E7 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:19:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=fW9dgt1ZS4UA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=4EWAeJMBdysiQwXHlIAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=d8-XDScYJTYA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:56437] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0F/22-18765-2DA30805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:22:26 +0000 Message-ID: <50803AD4.8000702@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:22:28 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cofrog@q.com References: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel Pump Wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dan, I did that same thing on all 3 of my Triumphs. I added an in-line fuse about 6 inches from the connection to the coil. Some on the list have mentioned that a shut-off switch should be mounted to cut the juice to the pump in case of accident. I guess this is a good safety idea. Bob On 10/18/2012 11:35 AM, cofrog@q.com wrote: > Listers, > > > Going to install Facet fuel pump. Any downside of using the coil hot connector for a fused power pickup? > > > Thanks, > > > Dan ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 14:21:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100602D05CF for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:21:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65F22D04ED for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=EOyEIilC c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=20BVOhgr0kkA:10 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=6BASy-Fg_dZCkVoJllcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Xy_FUz828SIA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:40686] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id CF/56-00773-34560805; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:23:31 +0000 Message-ID: <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:23:31 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Andrew Uprichard In-Reply-To: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the > stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small > tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of > the holes. There is a special Tenax stud that was originally used only on aluminum frames. It doesn't thread into the frame at all, instead it passes all the way through and has a slotted flathead "nut" that comes in from the other side. Only noticeable if you look for it, and not objectionable then, IMO. I haven't tried it yet, but I am planning to use one of them to 'repair' a stripped hole in my original windshield frame. TRF had the studs reproduced. I don't recall the PN offhand, but it's in the SPC. When you go to drill the frame, use a fine stone to remove the rake at the tip of the drill (basically dull it a bit) so it doesn't dig into the soft brass under the chrome. It might be wise to use a Dremel and a small abrasive burr to cut through the chrome layer, to avoid the possibility of peeling it off around the hole. I will also be using a stop collar on the drill bit, to limit depth and hopefully keep it from hitting the glass, but I assume you won't have that problem. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 15:12:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544BD2D061B for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:12:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED74E2D061A for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:11:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Cb921k0090SCNGk55lFF0F; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:15:15 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ClFg1k00B2ymm843VlFgDq; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:15:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:15:10 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: cofrog@q.com Message-ID: <931733431.453195.1350594910085.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <846188980.93096.1350574520857.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Fuel Pump Wiring X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good time to install an under-the-dash shut off switch as a secondary anti-theft device. The primary device? --Don't park in a bad neighborhood....??? > Going to install Facet fuel pump. Any downside of using the coil hot connector for a fused power pickup? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 15:17:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902D32D061E for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:17:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727652D0615 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:17:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CbwP1k00917dt5G5DlLuZF; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:20:54 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ClMi1k00x2ymm843ZlMiVA; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:21:42 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Randall Message-ID: <624687454.453394.1350595248162.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I did this repair on one of mine. My screw in "nut" was countersunk, so I just sight drilled a bevel with a bigger drill bit...very carefully. The chrome screw "nut" blends in exactly as Randall says. Do be careful of the glass, but I didn't have a problem. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire >There is a special Tenax stud that was originally used only on aluminum frames. It doesn't thread into the frame at all, instead it passes all the way through and > has a slotted flathead "nut" that comes in from the other side. Only noticeable if you look for it, and not objectionable then, IMO. I haven't tried it yet, but >I am planning to use one of them to 'repair' a stripped hole in my original windshield frame. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 15:42:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0002D062A for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:42:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA12D061F for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so9845531pad.14 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=vi5xxUlF621sQfL7LDhR1ca+BTYCkyrI1QklKNx/LWQ=; b=wKrHdz6syB2jI+EORFoHsvwN7JNXo0jiH2uCZN2pgOd0hBXRggU4vOO/QSGjSlKtAa 2oX96kXx+R8NTwvrj2YPxD67U61rx9LLhs4LYuqQm7r7QS7jp7VpvyaZQdnuwq06IKva OAXSYQleUeTXGIvuKtiuYirNGTJqEP2j7pAxjG0xEuXxxrfsFPN/qjn0EwCtLNY2V9Ug OCL+r4hd6P72D+aN/0RUQqWViwQK/9Ozyjlgam+JhCBPB2s7jr/67Ed+Rge4K4aWpnhk oqNoL0plJSMnUheLHgUL8E5u++hQuxN4bv0Ly3EzwdRuuoHfvYiA42YbU1sT6ivYKeU8 1eew== Received: by 10.68.131.5 with SMTP id oi5mr70116266pbb.56.1350596705065; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o1sm14944123paz.34.2012.10.18.14.45.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5080785D.2040508@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:45:01 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Joe Curry please contact me off list X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, Please contact me off list. Thanks TeriAnn tjwakeman@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 16:28:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693E32D063F for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:28:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046272D0624 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CdXT1k00D0FhH24A1m4R0x; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:04:25 +0000 Received: from sz0102.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Cm4R1k0032yr1eL8Um4RGt; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:04:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:04:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Kinderlehrer To: Andrew Uprichard Message-ID: <424678591.577019.1350597865017.JavaMail.root@sz0102a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:146.74.1.99] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When faced with this problem, I used a nut insert - installs like a pop rivet. B Available at Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/hand-riveters/45-piece-threaded-inser t-riveter-kit-1210.html B I know some people don't like this approach because there is some risk I suppose of the expansion of the insert hitting the glass, but it worked well for me. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:00:52 AM Subject: [TR] Stupid, stupid I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. B Went to install the nine small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of the holes. B My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before paying B all that money for the chroming. B I guess I could go for a larger tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what to do. B Any suggestions out there? Andrew Uprichard TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 16:29:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AA72D0624 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:29:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3362D0624 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:29:27 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=j19H71jb678A38GbuEM4wsE7mK9/ctYJepKGoCpgB3tV81oLmT1R4yBUADAk1NHN; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-12l25c1.cable.mindspring.com ([69.81.21.129] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TOydo-0008Nh-7s for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:32:36 -0400 Message-ID: <5080837F.4060405@rmi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:32:31 -0500 From: Pat Fischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121018-1, 10/18/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ELNK-Trace: 1566cb2b159fe469f572e6f2f0078041f46ed2b869dd38fd73b3fb4315a95ec23ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I wouldn't waste space on antifreeze unless you're prone to overheating problems. That's a lot of weight and space - and availability is darn near universal - any Quick Trip. IMO. Check the potency of the antifreeze and your hoses/clamps before leaving. Duct tape. Pat On 10/18/2012 9:12 AM, Wbeech wrote: > Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and > wondering if I have missed anything. > > Points > Plugs > Condenser > Gallon of coolant > Quart of oil, maybe two. > AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't > use it) > Check the spare, 40lbs > > I'm sure I have missed some things, what are the lists recommendations? > > Also, anybody coming through NW Texas on a route that will take you through > Abilene? Contact me off-line and maybe we can have an LBC convoy. > > I've got my Team.Net badge on the car, looking forward to putting a face > with some of the great people on this list. > > All the best, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pfischer@rmi.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 16:36:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF54C2D0640 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:36:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE3B2D063E for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([208.81.50.18]) by m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id CmfC1k00B0PZN7C01mfCEz; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:39:13 -0700 Message-ID: <4DA44C67EB7740C8A27EF7E61446BABF@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: <5080837F.4060405@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <5080837F.4060405@rmi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:38:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net but a gallon of water can be a big life saver, and can get you to the quicktrip in relative safety. I always carry a gallon jug of water. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Fischer Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:32 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit I wouldn't waste space on antifreeze unless you're prone to overheating problems. That's a lot of weight and space - and availability is darn near universal - any Quick Trip. IMO. Check the potency of the antifreeze and your hoses/clamps before leaving. Duct tape. Pat ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 16:44:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0CA2C0308 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:44:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458C2D0641 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:42:58 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=l8nWVpM7K8SjKLpqBJZmmiW18iIvDFNxsOlQTtD9YRpvExbMfyXD2IrPY1RUmriA; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-12l25c1.cable.mindspring.com ([69.81.21.129] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TOyqt-0001NU-3z for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: <508086AB.9050006@rmi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:46:03 -0500 From: Pat Fischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <5080837F.4060405@rmi.net> <4DA44C67EB7740C8A27EF7E61446BABF@Spitfire> In-Reply-To: <4DA44C67EB7740C8A27EF7E61446BABF@Spitfire> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121018-1, 10/18/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ELNK-Trace: 1566cb2b159fe469f572e6f2f00780416c03052d3d1fa96dd4645a780ba1147c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Different experiences, I guess. 40 years of Brit motoring and I've never needed water. Well, except for myself! Cheers. Pat On 10/18/2012 5:38 PM, Dave wrote: > but a gallon of water can be a big life saver, and can get you to the > quicktrip in relative safety. I always carry a gallon jug of water. > > -----Original Message----- From: Pat Fischer > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:32 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit > > I wouldn't waste space on antifreeze unless you're prone to overheating > problems. That's a lot of weight and space - and availability is darn > near universal - any Quick Trip. IMO. > Check the potency of the antifreeze and your hoses/clamps before leaving. > > Duct tape. > > Pat > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pfischer@rmi.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 17:34:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31172D0651 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:34:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0252D064C for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121018233720.JXOJ26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:37:20 -0400 Received: from D210SVK1 ([68.0.116.150]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id CndL1k00E3Em2Q401ndLGy; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:37:20 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.508092B0.00C4,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VeV1zSV9 c=1 sm=1 a=lGt7TVFIUQOMN1LBHZlhgw==:17 a=PBJBexRkwS0A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=WNoJnmgQ0VcA:10 a=tnFMrwy8AAAA:8 a=ImooOoApAAAA:8 a=tsH39Wv7e_Soce5gnTEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lGt7TVFIUQOMN1LBHZlhgw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Art & Karen Graves" To: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:37:25 -0500 Message-ID: <001601cdad89$8776ff60$9664fe20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2tiYb7jYmmWEsVRoCTukeVeoCvbg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, You may want to contact the Red River Triumph Club (http://www.redrivertriumphclub.org/) or Central Oklahoma Vintage Triumph Register (http://www.okctriumphs.org/). They both have large contingents going to Galveston and you may want to convoy with them. I live in Tulsa but will travel on Saturday to Lawton then Wichita Falls then to Dripping Springs via US281/US290, where I will meet up with the Hill Country Triumph Club. I have a mail list decal on my windscreen as well  dont see many of them. Looking forward to meeting you there! Art Graves Tulsa, OK 1976 Triumph TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 19:39:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52CA2D0672 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:39:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B5A2D0672 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:39:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTP id <0MC4009XSA3I79P0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:45:17 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <5080B0AD.9040207@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121018-1, 10/18/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One of my windscreen frames has holes drilled all the way through in two spots to all allow a hollow shaft insert with a slotted head to go through to the other side where the baby tenax threads in. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 10/18/2012 1:00 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the > stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small > tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of > the holes. My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before > paying all that money for the chroming. I guess I could go for a larger > tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what > to do. Any suggestions out there? > > Andrew Uprichard > TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 18 20:16:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7E2D0676 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:16:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A920F2D066C for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 31341 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2012 02:19:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.33) with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2012 02:19:02 -0000 Message-ID: <5FA93C6FC69F4EFC86CC13FE43740D41@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: <5080837F.4060405@rmi.net> <4DA44C67EB7740C8A27EF7E61446BABF@Spitfire> <508086AB.9050006@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <508086AB.9050006@rmi.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:18:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I did twice, and didn't have it. this very nice young couple stopped off and asked if they could help. they brought me water. another time I didn't have it I happened to be near a creek . . . of course, I've never needed it since, except for the time when the mga I was traveling with did. I had it then. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Fischer Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit Different experiences, I guess. 40 years of Brit motoring and I've never needed water. Well, except for myself! Cheers. Pat On 10/18/2012 5:38 PM, Dave wrote: > but a gallon of water can be a big life saver, and can get you to the > quicktrip in relative safety. I always carry a gallon jug of water. > > -----Original Message----- From: Pat Fischer > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:32 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit > > I wouldn't waste space on antifreeze unless you're prone to overheating > problems. That's a lot of weight and space - and availability is darn > near universal - any Quick Trip. IMO. > Check the potency of the antifreeze and your hoses/clamps before leaving. > > Duct tape. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 08:39:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3983F2D0627 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:39:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299C62D06C3 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:42:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:42:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:42:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 349007.34567.bm@omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 43051 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2012 14:42:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350657776; bh=GeoGh964Pnhn8hYetotansASFexnmCoUX8LcfTyMnlE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CmTr+8mllWI24BQ2GEju3UohnbU/29KA5+85HEBLsYQBPhNADO/qJSt+Hxk0abSktXRNq8iKufaa1XEjSTcKFGg1pCkIWXdArCFhGtETk/yb+5MzTYJTyx48omS+ZCQ0g6HMkTDBsD+LqNWyNY2SZiInrLcfWERWHSK1WrRdMto= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZeeGdTbqV08wuvP8lPt1BfWBygUCDVKN3MciMlmGvLRuURnpho7HD0DmFqarJvEkPgDA6A5G6dF4hz9CvhDS8QG6KCI8vmxgOaAS4fL8aTcUKFt1O1NIjvXRh3qPfLFmJGXwUnBPvTzNsg1EvSADkbFT5JyV6K1sVOBqqty+CkQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 7U60LNAVM1nPnmMVs9smqcIMSMs2hYljEHmqU0oQQ9cWqTT iF9kqXaQm4pb7nqmXALnDUaj1pIQgLIc14V88eOutf4YWF_kMbnYzXoXDr0z ln3DnM2lbGNL_fiHskid88fo1W3qLWTsTEyWd9EWZj5cR31NujZQe735vMGl 8eQGbgXI_RO4hncFwXsCkof6eT_sHd7ZY9tWcPWcQUPwkpCdM9cVjVNMDU88 73_2awBQopZWwz9c6rDWrdrKPMdOe9TKMMFN4Kx.JYAU9dQU7OcLiDzPaB4o IBwrjHeSOpQtoAtmBwuXoUmCALHI4_2TdHp6RtZiMVGTqojfQNHECC8qOqwI KKnh.2b8VmCsr_8StOpg_G3l3HnMy1pvb0wfje9z5cH1Oo7dDLAYFY9xbiUf W7r4NU9MzB6F9KWr7iJQYHVR7SaC9_rUi6jkrsO5T9ydJDtTT4O1NsGFbj6i MjYuvYCzHVTcpHBOOCqClIcu.Z6eRAIDtF5wecoj6OFTErqRxyjJpiV8pckG tvhPHtqr8XTh_1_OQxznMasYg8ynOsxU4DOUkVAmGMHey3SRKHkBgp4qj_D1 QhSHmCBN4rA2i0PTx2lWJH68aeUXHLm3xYMLcigV2NXd97i1X Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:42:56 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, aW4gdGhlIGltbW9ydGFsIHdvcmRzIG9mIENsaWNrIGFuZCBDbGFjawphbm90aGVyIFRSMyBwYXJ0cyBjYXIgdG8gdG93IGJlaGluZAo6LSkKRnJhbmsKCgpGcm9tOiBXYmVlY2ggPHdiZWVjaEBmbGFzaC5uZXQ.ClRvOiAnVHJpdW1waCBMaXN0JyA8dHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgT2N0b2JlciAxOCwgMjAxMiA3OjEyIEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gVlRSIDIwMTIgVHJhdmVsIEtpdAoKUm91bmRpbmcgdXAgdGhpbmdzIGZvciB0aGUgZHJpdmUgdG8gR2FsdmVzdG9uLCABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: Message-ID: <1350657776.42955.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Wbeech , 'Triumph List' In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net in the immortal words of Click and Clack another TR3 parts car to tow behind :-) Frank From: Wbeech To: 'Triumph List' Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:12 AM Subject: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit Rounding up things for the drive to Galveston, hoping I don't need them, and wondering if I have missed anything. Points Plugs Condenser Gallon of coolant Quart of oil, maybe two. AC Fuel pump(considering buying an electric pump and returning it if I don't use it) Check the spare, 40lbs I'm sure I have missed some things, what are the lists recommendations? Also, anybody coming through NW Texas on a route that will take you through Abilene? Contact me off-line and maybe we can have an LBC convoy. I've got my Team.Net badge on the car, looking forward to putting a face with some of the great people on this list. All the best, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 08:40:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB38C2D0676 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:40:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9F22D06D6 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so423355lag.14 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8Khg7ZJY05+Fr7pNV1T4XeQ4rLmx9vZWTbzo6H9GI3s=; b=J6H2eoq3CvOC4QUL4mdZPQAggNDlOlBAmfl8ME9si05ApQaBsEhVh7PCV44zrs80Xu lKcHvgGcGVXdgZ3zZlAXv28129RGQduAH6SkhytJxy40+OsmZe22sEcprb0oBXP4rkhs QpzJxtZe8ulgA2ZdZWnpJXcKGA0pJKGSbtmj7b09VLWCZmo4V3QMnw8kstzmrVpbydM+ ilRLt0513oiVgM9Su1cui7pA9YHQRHQyly7OuaqPq4ZiMIKNsHOA/BM/iV67ssWaJSEu Z561Wm0hPw0D2nKgM7H97VEIAWLGcvQxctUHWjAi8SzN3d0StnvFDD9S/2gbFJmVgqxA o7bg== Received: by 10.112.45.69 with SMTP id k5mr747174lbm.35.1350657836230; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:43:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Minilite wheels from UK -- production issues X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cross-posting from the TR-Register forum. KN Wheels, the company that manufactures Minilite wheels for the owner of the brand and tooling, has gone into bankruptcy and Minilite is starting the search for a new maker. If you're looking for some of those wheels, look quick... http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37666 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 08:44:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA0F2D0676 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:44:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396432D0665 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:44:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:47:27 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.8] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:47:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 14:47:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 935565.81046.bm@omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47500 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2012 14:47:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350658046; bh=4cSBjFT+kJToDP1MUy771JsMVsLyQVue2kB/Y+ob5Bs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VnPSHoY8EDsXuCFL58dSbfow64bRYJpUu8pvoxUX53JGMqRiSHG90Io4oOUpt+GZm7k5pAOJQ5yCARj3jb2IfADnoPBpFFpGsCqyJvVZuIUZqDqgJ5/Q2v2l7Jwsyq98R4Rb2+OmdlLrZATWwQiqTb6Cv//WV0DVv6mdiraZ0EI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b9GQ3Q46+GcZcR0qaf68h0qQ3ah3cwiN2B/o4QxJXKGIviFv3h+70eT7EPDUF0hmuPoGWyvZx87EiBVjwuah0X7WWsPm3/O8kKLuAQG6MdGmx8Xya+MMui8jedW0v9A7SFNlKJMQ4QHtAQDxpMrmQbbhwr+01xkQCqEO5yoWSTo=; X-YMail-OSG: 6YObZnkVM1nW7Kmv7iWPGFjhh8HpMxXXvWJRuHCtvnptoqo 9cplOPRuO5cvFpDzlXS_epqLGAQ456JquDGY_pO9w266Or0TSdJ.M4Ar3SPU EGmpOeAV8dHiB6nBxGLeocKWIpYbCkRyc8dbgO7G2K7hUUO8JF.7BAq.H3rp 9QxMRfqMazrkTR3Rlv9Odpp0.lZ0fOFpwvv0MMgNz5BtMdCBTk707kk4ZESe xd9X00GN728PmUa1teCI133imSqj1viETHTNF.5Zgxiyn4a8mNM0jrwJkwBj FEUOaxo9nAkCP6CgLdenE0KfwD3gKgJcerYzL69ph1zNUBCxfBsSPeXAbVAz OuvAU1w1_Gw93HAaWLlDVT2O0TLajYgbcmVGzkCjMWlj1EmE2paQg9hfN1Zu KylbJYws5po6lzdCFS.MegQfUMmMZWHaw4CyRvZUIZPtSeJesmnajAPxtxGU ztbUr2QedWme7Eb.BemT.olXI9h22R.sgw.bspK6NHHwvaSXc_sMDKB.qJXD X2sCmFpxW Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:47:26 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, YSBzbWFsbCBzdGFpbmxlc3Mgc3RlZWwgd2FzaGVyIHVuZGVyIGV2ZXJ5IG9uZSB3b3VsZCBnaXZlIGEgdW5pZm9ybSBsb29rIGFuZCBmaXggdGhlIDIgdGhhdCBhcmUgbm93IHVuZGVyIHNpemUuCkZyYW5rCgpGcm9tOiBBbmRyZXcgVXByaWNoYXJkIDxhdXByaWNoYXJkQHVwcmljaGFyZC5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIE9jdG9iZXIgMTgsIDIwMTIgMTA6MDAgQU0KU3ViamVjdDogW1RSXSBTdHVwaWQsIHN0dXBpZAoKSSBhbSBpbiB0aGUgbWlkZGxlIG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <1350658046.42573.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Andrew Uprichard , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net a small stainless steel washer under every one would give a uniform look and fix the 2 that are now under size. Frank From: Andrew Uprichard To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:00 AM Subject: [TR] Stupid, stupid I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled out two of the holes. My fault entirely - I should of course have checked before paying all that money for the chroming. I guess I could go for a larger tenax and then match the soft-top - otherwise I am at a loss to think what to do. Any suggestions out there? Andrew Uprichard TR collection getting out of hand - just bought two more candidates...... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 10:28:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5252D06E6 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:28:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BEE2D06E3 for ; 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charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Four important things I would add are: - roll of baling wire - roll of electrical wire (14 awg) - small can of misc bolts and nuts - assortment of "zap" straps (the new baling wire) Allan Reich 1975 TR6 - CF30255U (+O) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 10:50:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893B72D06E0 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:50:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA422D06D6 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net cheep white coverall gloves that stuff that you can clean your hands with and wipe off on a rag. Frank From: Allan Reich To: wbeech@flash.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit Four important things I would add are: - roll of baling wire - roll of electrical wire (14 awg) - small can of misc bolts and nuts - assortment of "zap" straps (the new baling wire) Allan Reich 1975 TR6 - CF30255U (+O) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 11:15:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103AF2D06D8 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:15:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B46C2D0664 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 2102 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2012 17:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.105.1) by p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.90) with ESMTP; 19 Oct 2012 17:18:04 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall'" , References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> In-Reply-To: <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:18:10 -0400 Message-ID: <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQG0OtmPyqiZ89Y5JrNkUqMf/xY7o5fzxJBA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks as always to Randall. Solves my problem for the one hole not obscured by the windscreen glass. The other hole, unfortunately, is. Before I go with the JB weld option, is there any way of drilling through glass without cracking it? The pop-rivet nut insert isn't going to work as the glass is too close to the frame. Before you ask, the glass can't be removed from the frame. It's a long story..... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:24 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; Andrew Uprichard Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the > stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine > small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled > out two of the holes. There is a special Tenax stud that was originally used only on aluminum frames. It doesn't thread into the frame at all, instead it passes all the way through and has a slotted flathead "nut" that comes in from the other side. Only noticeable if you look for it, and not objectionable then, IMO. I haven't tried it yet, but I am planning to use one of them to 'repair' a stripped hole in my original windshield frame. TRF had the studs reproduced. I don't recall the PN offhand, but it's in the SPC. When you go to drill the frame, use a fine stone to remove the rake at the tip of the drill (basically dull it a bit) so it doesn't dig into the soft brass under the chrome. It might be wise to use a Dremel and a small abrasive burr to cut through the chrome layer, to avoid the possibility of peeling it off around the hole. I will also be using a stop collar on the drill bit, to limit depth and hopefully keep it from hitting the glass, but I assume you won't have that problem. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 11:38:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DAD2D06ED for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D03F2D06E0 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:38:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D0R11k00916AWCUA15hnsn; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:41:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.110] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D5hl1k00J4L5TyG8S5hmFr; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:41:47 +0000 Message-Id: <95632196-CAAE-44F2-8D1E-9EB24D3E22E1@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: "Andrew Uprichard" In-Reply-To: <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:41:43 -0600 References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 'Randall' Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You could try a diamond encrusted bit. They are very pricey and no guarantees on not breaking the glass but that's the only way I've seen. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > is there any way of drilling through glass without > cracking it? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 11:46:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3692D06DE for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:46:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830FE2D06D6 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:41:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 17:44:35 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.206] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 17:44:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Oct 2012 17:44:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1350668675; bh=7uzIcBJY0JPCX3VqYjln2nY9v3zCXBJ+EdfjiXOm1Ow=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=AYVvXi3Y9qT82ioK235BxxkXBTKWzZsD43a3A4x06O2vydGiwyLj1x/uhRBcKPps2MxviRQBEOeojNhT76p5K9ZLJE99jOUj0PbqxGIoYef6O/RP+DXHyxh5ab8f6iQUP+H24OT9n/clyIU0fLD0MKpeEEcvIQ0sIzEmnTqzvEI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 508941.30093.bm@smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: zx4AVBcVM1lWkZuFGzGp7ZvtogHR.t1RBGMPuGLzWN2GjJ6 hbuvajNH0Rq7lzE2HUkbfy_P9RamQKbG1CX.L1x72rHnav3.ye1fym4PwydU czXBIyrLnz6Lf4NA4FS_.5sMX2I0y2bpUhTc0_DWLZFJJL1H_YK3rhiL.PZE luiE2iSuFHDhiy1uStZ50cXZU8SuF9SX2Psd_4b651idSbY.sRk4MKr5ause pLskzDxgtWF1MhNSv_S3mr1p0FBzzak7z0wrXHyLIvag62oJyhiAbWKDcPMz UGNz7ubqQWi3_pzwa4Wojq_X1M9FBC_JMXWDwIrRy1SJtGuUHKv_Pdhralph fTtmuM0TZpWv_NKPMtdw6wBXumw6T0DDhjaJXzupcsWVFiZFtIpKoU7rOmi2 e7fnpquaGrzKyvEo0f48fgzvRfbN2d.Tfo46LWhxfjDxh6M47NdKw5Jj8sk1 ihCxrBlLPtEMDE21zDJ.nropSI51NopMHCG.Y73q9P8_lfNxteL1vlud9bK0 nz69Gio9v2fgY7l2TrwFP X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.43.116.99] (wbeech@166.147.71.76 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2012 10:44:35 -0700 PDT References: <006b01cdad52$23ac4b70$6b04e250$@uprichard.net> <20121018202331.JK0FK.63660.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A405) From: Wbeech Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:44:31 -0500 To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: "" , Randall Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No, do not try to drill the glass. It will solve you problem in that you will have to remove the frame to replace the windshield. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:18 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" wrote: Thanks as always to Randall. Solves my problem for the one hole not obscured by the windscreen glass. The other hole, unfortunately, is. Before I go with the JB weld option, is there any way of drilling through glass without cracking it? The pop-rivet nut insert isn't going to work as the glass is too close to the frame. Before you ask, the glass can't be removed from the frame. It's a long story..... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:24 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; Andrew Uprichard Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am in the middle of a small-mouth restoration and recently had the > stanchions and windscreen frame re-chromed. Went to install the nine > small tenax fasteners and realized that a previous owner had drilled > out two of the holes. There is a special Tenax stud that was originally used only on aluminum frames. It doesn't thread into the frame at all, instead it passes all the way through and has a slotted flathead "nut" that comes in from the other side. Only noticeable if you look for it, and not objectionable then, IMO. I haven't tried it yet, but I am planning to use one of them to 'repair' a stripped hole in my original windshield frame. TRF had the studs reproduced. I don't recall the PN offhand, but it's in the SPC. When you go to drill the frame, use a fine stone to remove the rake at the tip of the drill (basically dull it a bit) so it doesn't dig into the soft brass under the chrome. It might be wise to use a Dremel and a small abrasive burr to cut through the chrome layer, to avoid the possibility of peeling it off around the hole. I will also be using a stop collar on the drill bit, to limit depth and hopefully keep it from hitting the glass, but I assume you won't have that problem. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 13:07:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C242D0712 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:07:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BD82D070E for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:06:52 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Q6tQEvKa c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=20BVOhgr0kkA:10 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=y0mJbbQ-Lz5rbDKvuqkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Xy_FUz828SIA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:40702] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id C9/44-18765-395A1805; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:10:11 +0000 Message-ID: <20121019191011.8H7CK.70088.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:10:11 -0400 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Andrew Uprichard In-Reply-To: <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Thanks as always to Randall. Solves my problem for the one hole not obscured > by the windscreen glass. The other hole, unfortunately, is. Before I go with > the JB weld option, is there any way of drilling through glass without > cracking it? Yes, with care and patience. Get one of those cheap miniature diamond burr sets from HF and grind away the glass. Don't try to hurry it, you don't want the glass to get too hot (which can break it). You can also spray a bit of water to help keep it cool. If your Dremel has a speed adjustment, slow it down somewhat (again to reduce heat buildup). But note that the "through hole" studs have a necked-down section, to help them clear the edge of the glass. If the edge is only partially obscuring the hole, you might not have to grind. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 13:41:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784E42D0715 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:41:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3717F2D0714 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D1UU1k00F1smiN4A17k7qn; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:44:07 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id D7k71k0022yr1eL8g7k7KA; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:44:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:44:07 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Frank Fisher Message-ID: <1787758609.498202.1350675847000.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1350665610.61116.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:63.252.13.130] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Allan Reich Subject: Re: [TR] VTR 2012 Travel Kit X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Best is the old man's took kit: A aa card and a cell phone. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 15:12:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A262D073C for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:12:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EAC2D0733 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1067318oag.14 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hqN9LWfOuocu1DtU2HE4PRCfY0bJiAoqWgz5sz/3mag=; b=prybnJchs/Gz6rhSMcU05BRCwpQgcJEJy5Rqs0bI2UaPfJPiLXzwuSMJ+W54URs6PZ Tch8Wc9ZbmNIjkbxkpkvkIA1xT91q92xN9oxk0RZSV0oY+uQLV+2hvjlZw4xQmnsSL9r 0wHbpRTdHe630TWKQC+ARZ428NFKitPp/9TzdQVtThU9/w+ADzSwXuPZVXjKY1ijsIEd Wx4pp3rWSpM3dXT/PeEqdyFls4qLkosPpHLB8+QbHSDdX6oDlSggjDkHlaNHfLc85Kdc iOrcvDQy+wU2FXRKnUab6Lj2TDItxPCgT6U5tyKwoeEEKFSVs4xeOE02SRLLXXQYI2kt 9qjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.169.70 with SMTP id ac6mr2601281oec.134.1350681130611; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.163.97 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randall Zempel To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, can you tap the hole one size up and put in a thread insert? Randall Z ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 15:44:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C612D071D for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:44:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA912D06F4 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.102.21]) by p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id D9g51k0030TiJ72019g5ou; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:40:07 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall Zempel'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: <00eb01cdae42$53f656e0$fbe304a0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQKhvi1/6ow1SLYIzTv6GTV+NSjBa5YZB/jg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No - the glass prevents an insert. But I did order 2 of the bolt-through tenax, per the other Randall, and we'll see if I can manipulate them around the glass. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Zempel Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:12 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid Andrew, can you tap the hole one size up and put in a thread insert? Randall Z ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 19 16:30:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD652D071D for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:30:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975722D0721 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1123947oag.14 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:27:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EJJ+1tb2WIY2FFyxGQrvJmVII2WdbZK7iFg8sZ2gmF4=; b=NrIBrdeJENN8CqIOEnlp20Ua5p9VcQQtbG7L56CPIV9226SRv4jWn57an7hAE7S099 gxLiDjo7g+mvbO8ABXwBx3ZqJXEq+s02bK2OIbYpundGYHgLcdaX+N9eMChexgJstjfm nAo1JehPxNUf+hWw7vnHyI0bn3OILSaklIvhdiKi2iXa16NWvYZRZyb/0g9EFWdCOtVy VCIdy+ldYlgHO0g+UdngiHgB4Kz6UY97ebVkgez//ybpcnjhrzbl59qIj8Kf5gR+xYxG oiseqJR4Wtc7WfNupBAwKruqQ82G6sCV+xQHKtOC3BszObIVI7jRkEG+PxT/mpgomj0G VY6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.6.33 with SMTP id x1mr2800878oex.78.1350685645752; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.163.97 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:27:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <00eb01cdae42$53f656e0$fbe304a0$@uprichard.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:27:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randall Zempel To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How much depth of metal do you have to work with? The original depth of a tenax fastener, right? Perhaps a "custom" insert could be made to work. It shouldn't have to be a real one...it could be just a short piece of threaded metal with a threaded hole in the middle for the tenax. Drill and tap a small bolt down the center, cut it to the length of the tenax threads, screw it onto the tenax body, use a bottoming tap to cut new threads in the windshield frame, then screw the modified tenax into the frame. I'd be very, very cautious with the glass. You're likely to end up with a crack running from that point well into the windscreen. Randall Z ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 07:53:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474822D0756 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:53:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E3C2D071A for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 07:53:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.33.142] ([unknown] [71.178.195.81]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MC7006892PSGK50@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:56:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. Secrest" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) Message-id: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:56:16 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: [TR] '72 TR6 O/D and Clutch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This winter's project is to r/r my overdrive, at which time I'd like to replace the clutch. Can I do this w/o actually lifting the gearbox out of the car, just sliding it back? Martin Secrest 72 TR6 Arlington, VA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 08:38:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97A92D076B for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:38:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8379E2D0711 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:32:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GZOVbHrL c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=B1yMojh6ficA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=BZbRsoUNffsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MEpRuvJ1jOKT-XhsZjUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:45248] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C5/B4-20885-ED6B2805; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:36:14 +0000 Message-ID: <5082B6E1.7080009@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:36:17 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Secrest" References: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] '72 TR6 O/D and Clutch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Martin, In order to remove the pressure plate and disc, the transmission must travel past the front of the pressure plate. Since it is already disconnected from the engine (through the disc) you my as well just pull it out all the way. Remember the disc must be aligned correctly using a jig or a spare input shaft so re-assembling the transmission will go smoothly. The more room the better. In my younger days, I could do this myself but the last time I did it I had an assistant. Bob On 10/20/2012 09:56 AM, M. Secrest wrote: > This winter's project is to r/r my overdrive, at which time I'd like to > replace the clutch. Can I do this w/o actually lifting the gearbox out of the > car, just sliding it back? > > Martin Secrest > 72 TR6 > Arlington, VA > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 10:17:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12C2D0763 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:17:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27B02D06D8 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8452E01B for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:21:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5082CF66.1060203@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:20:54 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [TR] '72 TR6 O/D and Clutch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The whole job will be a LOT easier, especially getting the overdrive back on the tranny if you pull it out. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 15:45:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51D2D06C8 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:45:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C412D068B for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.33.142] ([unknown] [71.178.195.81]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MC7004ZOOLQIH50@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:49:03 -0500 (CDT) References: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <374B8CCD-B05D-41A4-A997-ACF97BF99548@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-id: <0FA6404E-6212-4D7D-A744-2215B70CC697@verizon.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: "M. Secrest" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:49:02 -0400 To: "M. Secrest" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] '72 TR6 O/D and Clutch X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the help everyone. The gearbox is coming out, with friend's help (though he doesn't know it yet). Sent by my butler On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:56 AM, "M. Secrest" wrote: > This winter's project is to r/r my overdrive, at which time I'd like to replace the clutch. Can I do this w/o actually lifting the gearbox out of the car, just sliding it back? > > Martin Secrest > 72 TR6 > Arlington, VA > > Sent by my butler ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 16:18:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D2F2D0756 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:18:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354332D0665 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:17:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so2744077ied.14 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BYvK980LFA/nDKETt28Xs2PbdKngIdXEIjW2LSdQshY=; b=0au4VNLSlE+i2oqn4bope94QqxsXEbcEuScdJfzypf7D9X1XFMe7yHQgcGRbsCt2bX JwxFhO/cZnDePuyZt6w/TSs9YDArNqRBiHfJN9eYONgilonHWyOyGTN23bovezhl78WF f11KeqrNSooUeTiwpTR2OwJYqwVQn5HQjK4CIEKhh1VZZgvsZwRpI01gZulmI4p+5B+k /ebA0wOwOmRnCOKhukeXcAksli48bjl0d10WVFBaNAZkYmoBqFl3zaCPCPLnSzirUF67 /BftQRfh3g3HTX2XGZeY6mpPna2/adBt9leMPkhz3GRZ/vPfz5j77PegT6UFsvSyyFzL QhZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.57.5 with SMTP id we5mr4394608icb.23.1350771679871; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.57.74 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:21:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nick Wolf To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Trade or sell TR4 for Herald convertible X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi listers I've got a growing family, which is why I haven't posted here in a long time. It's also why I've decided to sell my TR4 and go looking for a Herald convertible. Michelotti styling with 4 seats! My car is an early '62 TR4, signal red with black leather interior and overdrive. It's an older restoration in good shape, with just a few quirks to sort out. Is there anyone out there with a really nice Herald who might be interested in a part trade? Please contact me off list. Details and photos are here: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3353232526.html Thanks! -Nick 1962 TR4 Seattle, WA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 16:45:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6BA2D06CC for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:45:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9D12D0664 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:37:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GZOVbHrL c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=RS4b4SqAxScA:10 a=w8R4rrJzaGEA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=H7WaHfcL76cA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_D7yOOXYNFlKdRRIjiUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=dUvg2UVs47MA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:48904] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 48/CA-20885-7D723805; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:38:15 +0000 Message-ID: <508327DA.1020203@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:38:18 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Trade or sell TR4 for Herald convertible X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nick, Dont do it! The TR4s are becoming very rare by the day. And I took a quick look at yours and it is a beauty! I am lucky to have a 3, 4 and a 6 and I have to say the 4 is the one that gets the oooh ahhhs at car hops and shows. One does not see them come up too often on Ebay and Craigslist. At least in my area. I have had my 4 for 6 seasons since restoration and I have seen 2 others in my travels. Get a Herald fix ur upper and put the 4 in storage for now. I see Heralds on Ebay from time to time for very low $. Bob On 10/20/2012 06:21 PM, Nick Wolf wrote: > Hi listers > I've got a growing family, which is why I haven't posted here in a long > time. It's also why I've decided to sell my TR4 and go looking for a > Herald convertible. Michelotti styling with 4 seats! > My car is an early '62 TR4, signal red with black leather interior and > overdrive. It's an older restoration in good shape, with just a few quirks > to sort out. > Is there anyone out there with a really nice Herald who might be > interested in a part trade? Please contact me off list. > Details and photos are here: > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3353232526.html > > Thanks! > -Nick > 1962 TR4 > Seattle, WA > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 17:16:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16F62D0788 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:16:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6C02D077D for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:09:23 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Q1PSKdR/a+Or/GlQZb3aJZIuEdIB073yNpf86RRh64be6t8M0GpHmacmbL/voU6O; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.189.114] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiBU-0008Jd-JA for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:10:24 -0400 Message-ID: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:10:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711205b04a747c7dc36eb3bb38812ef265c3450d8af12176b98c5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.189.114 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Splash plates for TR4A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone try to fit TRFbs splash plates (behind front wheels, between inner and outer fenders)? They sell the same part for the 4A through 6. If these are the correct parts for the 4A, they will take some significant rebending to follow the angles on the inner fender. Wondering if somehow I got a bad pair or if there are better choices out there. Thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 18:34:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807352D0785 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:34:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBFA2D0764 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:31:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GZOVbHrL c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=D5HH5mBpWgsA:10 a=PJBm7VhiftQA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=AmCU9PHj2y0A:10 a=Cx8P4HdT0r-L0QR8MV0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:55154] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C4/1F-20885-A9243805; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 00:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: <5083429A.50408@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:32:26 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cliff Hansen References: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> In-Reply-To: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Splash plates for TR4A X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cliff, As far as I can tell they are the same. I had a stock NOS set for my TR4 and they fit perfect as you would expect. On my 6, I had just 1 side and I actually fabricated the other by reversing the pattern with the one that I did have. Since I had stock parts, I am guessing that the reproductions are not up to spec. If it was me, I would return them and hope for a set to appear on Ebay. Believe it or not they do show up from time to time. If your old ones are useable to make a pattern, they are not that hard to fabricate out of fresh sheet metal. Bob On 10/20/2012 07:10 PM, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Anyone try to fit TRFbs splash plates (behind front wheels, between inner > and outer fenders)? They sell the same part for the 4A through 6. If these > are the correct parts for the 4A, they will take some significant rebending to > follow the angles on the inner fender. Wondering if somehow I got a bad pair > or if there are better choices out there. > > Thanks, > > Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 19:52:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4FA2D0659 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030BB2D04F0 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:48:16 -0600 (MDT) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=PJBm7VhiftQA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=AmCU9PHj2y0A:10 a=7NkN8_sCQZqZqhRPDhQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:62134] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A1/09-19056-D9453805; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:49:17 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Bob Labuz" , "Cliff Hansen" References: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> <5083429A.50408@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:49:18 -0500 Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Splash plates for TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Bob, I would return them, they are very easy to fabricate and even easier to repair if you have acess to a welder, usually only the bottom part is rusted. Greg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 20 22:17:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F782D0617 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16362D05FF for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:15:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2012 04:17:00 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.107] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2012 04:17:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2012 04:17:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1350793020; bh=hj1rVYix5Dm0avjYa6sRU225HlrsNfoBaxuLCpvj40w=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=Z5ubGLdnvDtFzoiKGoQtdNsqr0XFsMV7TqaoXCL2UZTEEck8PzOceTEwb/AnqWx4xrfEn4q20KWRCDjKmm8Pod+dyRxnHg7MBbo8xvoh+DW1JdNVSn0qQ4bnxibVbT8uu+p3j9RnS4ZC983RZgSFYI/I9HUwAxzt+BN4V4IL4v8= CIW.rINjHZDfZuORfxi1CLpqBGv0ts9Kb7h_pMvWZ2w6RplCVidiIGChzmfU QNK6Bga3j1o9H8luRsONfWEuRRPRD9Augh930qmisMPCjZgPkku214Ho0J0E aDRbQHUs0GfcSuQFnIQWgZVxps5Bv4d95erpVY2jixMSexf80F8Xucfi5jSU zBOR3LjBvWzNZnAyQTvabGkMCRXzf2IQ2iDzMspNpr_ZMQMWMvKszcCY3wZI ppgubjVTWzTZuXFaZZxkvvSXZjuto38rXw0CGe3Ske1OXLzs6.9P0WsC2S4s xKzxWVt3WH1Udd.SBdoEyZDJtLgpmSliCZU.O5p3ebAzz75fu_XUczF05vhl UbstdjL7HfaKjaMHmhy4I1ShWOH89NA2ZNEU4l_d2PnmPm8VgIYTDfpUaPpp vy2We2IqMIG1oB_MP1nkzHkmfL7ZetpyYu7lW6.iBLv814eGdV3vDbMdcr5S 107lmz_PnY6cS Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2012 21:17:00 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <50834B2C.3070708@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:16:58 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac2vKLmKcukPkkSgSxOmQpdJg6P33QAGdukg Subject: Re: [TR] Sweet! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sweet indeed! And, they are fast. Not sure about your ads, I either just bought a Dodge Dart or a GMC Denali, HD 1-ton dually! Thanks Mark, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:09 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Sweet! I finally took the time to sit down and focus on the Team.Net archiving problem. It seems to be working once again. Click on the archive link and check it out. There are still some problems, like the "prev" and "next" buttons, but the basic functionality is there, the archives are getting updated every hour. And feel free to click on the links for the Google ads, I could use a few pennies and nickles for a celebratory beverage. Maybe an Epic Spiral Jetty IPA or a some of their Imperial Red... mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 21 16:22:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D822D02D3 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5FF2D02AA for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2048236iak.14 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AjAlGzHgPxcXGMIykFHyx/Ru+mAJufhm5SqfxlLuxh4=; b=Jvde7/x9eeKQvCKi+8jrlM2hBYuWtALY0N4z+RaxdXv/KVY2QMvbZR2FQM7wDFyOGm dbl1CsBofZk5JaCqJS9Sk05l2veEKXP8Boiha87/Hhbm+fnXagRGK7XWp92bi6/Rj19Q z94vHtIj9nHq0Trl1VvWJ2M1GeFWRblYR36nbfs4WVqmBi0USTYq4IZN0DhCxaxo5o1D ivk6s27YpMQ6CHriGFYOD1SmWISAKMohetnE6KgC+7tIQfT8ILRbg9Uz6P2cmMgk1jya olKRAjTtOhLUBVxIdPeqf/+1jHZxOUJXXXj9fDu/0QAt26gyI+9Yb5oCskhb48P+AHnx 2OaA== Received: by 10.42.103.81 with SMTP id l17mr6182618ico.38.1350858001972; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.57.74 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:20:01 -0700 From: Nick Wolf To: yellowtr@adelphia.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 423 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Bob... And I know, I know: It makes absolutely no sense to sell a good TR4. But our single-car garage and tight budget unfortunately have other plans. I'm quite certain that there will be another TR4 in our future, but not for a few years. Cheers! -Nick Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:38:18 -0400 > From: Bob Labuz > Subject: Re: [TR] Trade or sell TR4 for Herald convertible > > Nick, > > Dont do it! The TR4s are becoming very rare by the day. And I took a > quick look at yours and it is a beauty! > > I am lucky to have a 3, 4 and a 6 and I have to say the 4 is the one > that gets the oooh ahhhs at car hops and shows. One does not see them > come up too often on Ebay and Craigslist. At least in my area. I have > had my 4 for 6 seasons since restoration and I have seen 2 others in my > travels. > > Get a Herald fix ur upper and put the 4 in storage for now. I see > Heralds on Ebay from time to time for very low $. > > Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 21 18:27:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779272D01B6 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14172D0281 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:20:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2102570iak.14 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:21:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=reldocj6HB0svimGURAb/Iq+iwFQ88OEmc3lPBFGots=; b=PKmutnok4jfGJz0Igk/FsnxTO7cPJDr6vlszoEe2VK162ChzHB9VhS437iJti74Qqm hXX/Qj8Bw8MZmzJ8dGIrKE9UlpcQcmfuP8TIIzpbxnzeL0x62zpRJfA5zjqcPVPXsE2J ntwOkls+JN+44Xaf72UEBdTdVi2rIpPxHD36DlhXA3XOp9lSTH3/92kYip9t4D/lx/zu ix0Xa21SURDPyWAKq5RtR1j8ZO4cMwm0yVgXUbSAT4k4F7yrKx4QQb3tk+CcYIIx96Bb Ot29prIvUirXKQZfiFWjBWiNk3D1gf8YCrqb8+A5HnWZZTXfYfn8PKhY1ToOHZ6pSWbl ZqgA== Received: by 10.50.158.201 with SMTP id ww9mr14971069igb.22.1350865290289; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:21:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <1350492051.63669.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:21:30 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Draft Excluder & Rear View Mirrors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No financial interest (or experience with the product or seller) but came across this on ebay while looking for something else and thought they could be a useful option: Clip On Mirrors Geo On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:40 AM, William Brewer wrote: > >> ... One [mirror] is mounted to the side of the upper windshield stanchion >> (i would like to know where the mirror came from)... >> > > > Moss has them, though they no longer list them as a Triumph part. > > Quarterlight Mirror > > p/n 165-175 > > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 07:39:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5755D2D0207 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAAF2D019B for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:39:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k6so1983364lbo.14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pNXlTQ6YrctrJ58hBLE7L0KsgFzUKr6pWiBkGbAPYJ0=; b=fJxmTdewlwCFD6nhELP5ZCk7sulxx/Uh9QBqr6DXzyj+5wTuv48HOZnAngiBCKNx0m IUrUU3si+AUtt0pG9NsjaoHri3w8ym2GndGR/PpLuSWX3k7756ubyqcOj4xezOVcZeos vYeDKdY8PF4GdWSQQJteYWaQbTvjYBApeBD81UQ1UYakpR59972VdOxYaOpSExR9n78Y vccaprxZVy/wGYt4XoPD1MfEEGm3YAfyMOkSHb4x2ALJFUDiz0/iNPEAfiThoHBq0ELJ n92wLaxocYgLHE8VzjEx2aC3ahUHD9mm4ELYcXXTMS5iEUKVHh2CQxeuLFpS2FIVFMsj coCw== Received: by 10.152.47.148 with SMTP id d20mr8188617lan.42.1350913215620; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:40:15 +0300 From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One and a half hours of running at Goodwood in my TR for a couple hundred bucks? You bet I'm jealous of some of the options across the water! http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37696#entry285882 Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 12:16:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E772A2D0269 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f41.google.com (mail-yh0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925BF2D016D for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 47so608017yhr.14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:10:39 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=9rlwfGLPGiu7babIejax64yghYNs28B5KCIQPBzvzzE=; b=mbmHVZeVWEL4pwCCfbP7KMS7A09eZxzzgkCgcFPISpTjgjSsAaDFm10nx/oX3fivp4 1eYOwH6lbyvrjwhwkoR2sBkxwUAspxHLPSpBS1lnHs64Ms9fFc3pF8T4aoQFgfceJD1S 1di4NfmjgSN7E98kEJP/jhVILWTasKNnDWIvqkasxf1XbwE+o8x4GZCvt3yxUSw8+DlE GmXLP3Ep3tkJRLDAWAxse+razpguNFBy4LixT+E9UQmSx00L+sCTRinzUBRzLfcMJ2QV h1+cvdOeG72xsn3b6g7/sy0hI51vh6D13PAjQavU1r+VyK7q12EAxSWIxDZr+Ykg7o/Y yaXQ== Received: by 10.236.199.244 with SMTP id x80mr7822720yhn.77.1350929438577; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([184.88.120.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a44sm9586026yhe.21.2012.10.22.11.10.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:10:35 -0400 To: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: [TR] Non TR question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My daughter is thinking about an E-type Jag (hopefully she will let her dad drive it once in a while). I told her my biggest concern would be the "classic" british wiring problems. I was wondering if any one knows of Dan Masters like modern wiring redo for the e-Type?? The one I put in my TR-3A has made it as reliable as my wife's Honda. Thanks John John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 12:19:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB322D0299 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:19:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119AC2D0206 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9MIK1Bh001224 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:20:11 -0400 Received: from core-mod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 27CB0E000093 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:20:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1350930011; bh=eDMGhuD2zgmzcpL2uYT2zl5XhV68E7DonB36sZwZgbs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pJ02Ha2FBLnh0gkmjAwnQxQYlRb+k4oTWoCAn7oOjcfSxHokMuc1mlkeqFUdfPjHd /H8Y4whxj8yN9GlUS61slzNHUvuqnAvmboH4cU4ob4EUzgoD4xMnSnu+PI9OaTjz3n nqh8SAI6S4JZ6fEAXIAdzSEb9aSWiO7xELpzwUSE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b50858e5b3c5a Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net About the best we can do over here is an autocross. Slower speeds but still a hoot. And no real noise limit. Dave In a message dated 10/22/2012 8:40:25 AM Central Daylight Time, don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > One and a half hours of running at Goodwood in my TR for a couple hundred > bucks? You bet I'm jealous of some of the options across the water! > > http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=37696#entry285882 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 12:31:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8612D0298 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D472A2D020F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 18:29:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.168] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 18:29:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 18:29:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 95633 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2012 18:29:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1350930587; bh=7DiPtZy+8NA1aWS2wNrn3m4FlHrYmZgh7ep6i/RPS18=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zq9QU2DfRG4MRQqFYiF/wGFsij9fHuNQEnI2uSXgRVdV2/52t5atyflAeVUZQEizLnNIsKmRaZ3C27XvMizoqSeLuiG+CxmyiD43hDxTEM1UZ2fCGXQDNhQQG3FBQFdWIMYEPed6U2JSc9p1lEbTHtpECKHX/fitCWh80b3ZTY4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pgnScuKGsy8diisQEVxSdsCPmWdZZ+oHsyabxSXlFjXgJn0VL5tEXYUEB+sfxduVdSyVDE5UzecMBG6suy7wRiEtSBvWRMjJZoKmSnX5WAWtK5rMdkkhfJKAu5kvpBG/MVHIij17XfrTkrlB2XxTX3rmikjymeZ1s9JfaC8uBHQ=; ypwBldoEEU6oPzz1Z.4JVxqhaDuzztjeLHZHawo9oejtHQwp_DQS8iGMQioI UkoerfnVaj5yLmvSHXsjiSXTDr_up5KW47ghWx0_vjwT4xFTQyhENiM7gtC6 eI36j8VlIlGOkJRnyspXsIA33wgoOgfR3EkEJrP5V2C3PEKtf.2p57mNvHBd zqYvUnB9h_0ToE.YuVZxR2K_FASWXPala08g926q6kyjbJujkNbsQ_t3e2qS 99ZCVvdwL32yYi6fBzoYC2wSXQ283aocZ7Zx_f_vHWe_e8_zC3fUraD1EgGK wxZvcFNLDkX2qFGbgd6NcSSeYXfXuS3Ipq4b2TBGQgueuomHlvgqAKois7gU IbKESIhhvKYhbxng2..hhoN9hNfIAWUw0yI6IkyBAgUSW.hQroTOy3gmiQTC LbYj.IGLAPGsrX2fE4vjB1tro7n1ZzRJGz.oohWV0LbXT5Z9mLrJIrFf1PgH WriNOxRPnE4RrQhtdoLmKA79Yi4TWSImv61XcOh4mJeSgcqsftgtz1XoXskb tJKeFW1jBu_rRrby0Zkaf Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:29:47 PDT cGVyc29uYWxseSBpIGhhdmUgbm8gcHJvYmxlbXMgd2l0aCB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgd2lyaW5nIG9mIExCQydzLgpwdXQgaW4gYSBuZXcgaGFybmVzcyBmcm9tIEJyaXRpc2ggd2lyZS4KYmUgc3VyZSB0aGUgYnVsbGV0IGNvbm5lY3RvcnMgYXJlIGdvb2QgYW5kIHRoYXQgZ3JvdW5kIHdpcmVzIGFyZSBwcm9wZXJseSBncm91bmRlZC4KaWYgeW91IHdhbnQgYWRkZWQgcGVhY2Ugb2YgbWluZCBzaHJpbmsgdGFwZSBvdmVyIHRoZSBidWxsZXQgY29ubmVjdG9ycwp1c2UgdGhlIGVsZWN0cmljIGdyZWFzZcKgYmVjYXUBMAEBAQE- References: <3E44E5F2-D217-424D-B887-5C8DBC5AC400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:29:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: John Wise , car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Non TR question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net personally i have no problems with the original wiring of LBC's. put in a new harness from British wire. be sure the bullet connectors are good and that ground wires are properly grounded. if you want added peace of mind shrink tape over the bullet connectors use the electric grease because of where you are. that the old lucas electric was bad was more myth than fact. it was about non maintenance. From: John Wise To: car discussion Sports Triumph Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: [TR] Non TR question My daughter is thinking about an E-type Jag (hopefully she will let her dad drive it once in a while). I told her my biggest concern would be the "classic" british wiring problems. I was wondering if any one knows of Dan Masters like modern wiring redo for the e-Type?? The one I put in my TR-3A has made it as reliable as my wife's Honda. Thanks John John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 13:02:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C122D0226 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C896C2D0221 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 19:00:37 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.105] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 19:00:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Oct 2012 19:00:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1350932437; bh=PITv6rxoXOYH2kW5B7vX3adSCDrYw2JiBF4YyGbl1PI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=gQ9V9TW5vPxSMbNJOAUOwGVZghaXsL6r88kUb7SJ43SiZ4Oz+OuaZRXfsR6GOZ2Wf40VFdd2pQeyiSBITPH8/r6JuUXPiOL/6dkCrzMeIU6/XaZXm0pygm2j6EUQAR5VtIKry3jFasAm6on4mtMovRawvQr4DYMzBtkGleEKfyw= jnQUj4sJuiCQlTButSeZWaFYoC0iWNTeFvjzL9e3jQoJAcm8.4u5dSygOSLk Z55LylU3Oz2y6cB5.uLS_TUxk1gW0WbXy8JisCmgPn4rtvzz11Ky7lum0DBk oRFqHM4hoatAJIywok1NOsop.Kt_BX8NEeFt2QHZzYzL1jxVeZzfP4wLMSrq wOxnrT8AVz.IYMM5yhg3pJmJZ4WCboeGEqWriy8Tw1V_INQyhh43fQQKCKy4 Sa6G4fXH8tShuCzT_gRCxWgDhADjfanJWD11L66boAPK.38hBa90rjhJ84UW lHRaKCgXbCBoJ4P8giET5.udhmyTiMIJLXuKfXSv_JpK2hhALFkkydp6pIZO B3L3LEObP2Bh3mkP8jraaDeAnJAnX8QxF2hMPlFRvMXKKgehRpRoo0863oep HLfMntqacr_gS6v_e5jvvcjrRjXwrjzz36F1N_635OWmMMYWU3UYxSS142cl 5xXhY6i5b2Fzx4RxPYYYOk0jcugendyKexZTuTEBm3sgHwrOsSdnn3g45PON 9hP_a4SqaWLP3R4N9aKQmcgGIKBmwHssVS6JeJyaafafL7IaoAbdQWX27sCs BawcLm7uB0TubSa0KA7M_be_bjXtc28lxO8c_XkQ- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2012 12:00:37 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Frank Fisher'" , "'John Wise'" , "'car discussion Sports Triumph'" References: <3E44E5F2-D217-424D-B887-5C8DBC5AC400@gmail.com> <1350930587.95590.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:00:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac2wg6ihGDHgkbW+ShSm2/DeERD5dQAArEEQ Subject: Re: [TR] Non TR question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Frank, I am running an Auto Spark harness (also sold by BW) with no problems four years in. Have a friend with a 1970 E-Type, probably stock or original harness, no problems reported from him over ten years. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:30 PM To: John Wise; car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Non TR question personally i have no problems with the original wiring of LBC's. put in a new harness from British wire. be sure the bullet connectors are good and that ground wires are properly grounded. if you want added peace of mind shrink tape over the bullet connectors use the electric grease because of where you are. that the old lucas electric was bad was more myth than fact. it was about non maintenance. From: John Wise To: car discussion Sports Triumph Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: [TR] Non TR question My daughter is thinking about an E-type Jag (hopefully she will let her dad drive it once in a while). I told her my biggest concern would be the "classic" british wiring problems. I was wondering if any one knows of Dan Masters like modern wiring redo for the e-Type?? The one I put in my TR-3A has made it as reliable as my wife's Honda. Thanks John John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 13:34:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16BB2D027B for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075162D0212 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:26:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2949677iak.14 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:27:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=93q4KFvzc1vEO2BaKRfFzIOXc1zpuEPC8CTSed2HhA4=; b=UNg18Af/cjrvIWFSA9AEpJiTR8yXcP4Njh9/xnFYOQ3qPv9UKkwW459fj7daXy5NHP oejN3OnTMz5+gkjdzkNpfYsf5pQ6Zbuvdw1Xt0d+Tcf4MocYRapPeYPPfa73AIo1ifEa xtzxLkBgpSHd/6+gKr+BFcETxmYvcWhDXaXLkxM+uFJSIRQr2n6TUT6QIxsOMc7KeibE oS84QMWtS7uMIHnvYl9sz3QhXGz56dRTA3VCr0CtrpB2lJxVlczMe+mp61iY9NboWaCq gQMOqvHvVIoMJ/8eisXH+i+tzxj2TazFLg0lIEdJMB5uBcC4eGbjw8KAd3ANSxtqbv6Z +BgA== Received: by 10.50.161.232 with SMTP id xv8mr10620891igb.22.1350934069305; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <3E44E5F2-D217-424D-B887-5C8DBC5AC400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:27:49 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: John Wise Cc: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Non TR question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I, too, would favor a stock harness. Considering that this may be a $70,000 to $100,000 car, I would think it's value might be diminished by an non-original wiring loom. IMO, there are a lot of mods where a tired original is replaced by a new upgrade and the upgrade gets a lot of credit for the resulting improvement when, in fact, simply rebuilding or replacing with 'as original' would have also yielded similar improvement. Geo On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:10 AM, John Wise wrote: > My daughter is thinking about an E-type Jag (hopefully she will let her dad > drive it once in a while). > > I told her my biggest concern would be the "classic" british wiring > problems. > I was wondering if any one knows of Dan Masters like modern wiring redo for > the e-Type?? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 14:21:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CA92D0291 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 432112C0D31 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:21:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20923 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2012 20:22:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.0.174) by p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.82) with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2012 20:22:28 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall'" , References: <00ca01cdae1d$b85e6110$291b2330$@uprichard.net> <20121019191011.8H7CK.70088.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:22:30 -0400 Thread-Index: AQG82Vr5lyLULYW6lCHvYewhI5+ob5fncl1Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The through studs worked like a dream. Very sweaty as I made my way through the glass, but one would be hard pressed to distinguish the "through-hole" studs from the original fasteners. Randall comes through again. And to stop him having to reply, I'll do it for him. "Aw shucks - just tryin' to help.........." Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:10 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; Andrew Uprichard Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid, stupid ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Thanks as always to Randall. Solves my problem for the one hole not > obscured by the windscreen glass. The other hole, unfortunately, is. > Before I go with the JB weld option, is there any way of drilling > through glass without cracking it? Yes, with care and patience. Get one of those cheap miniature diamond burr sets from HF and grind away the glass. Don't try to hurry it, you don't want the glass to get too hot (which can break it). You can also spray a bit of water to help keep it cool. If your Dremel has a speed adjustment, slow it down somewhat (again to reduce heat buildup). But note that the "through hole" studs have a necked-down section, to help them clear the edge of the glass. If the edge is only partially obscuring the hole, you might not have to grind. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 22 19:27:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79DA2D029F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:27:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40AC2D0219 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:18:14 -0600 (MDT) a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:17 a=T3xOmAtW2PYA:10 a=PxfVsvmZnqgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0147rVo6TZoA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=nENO9MZcGYADPf2NCg8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:117 Received: from [76.89.87.109] ([76.89.87.109:53195] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CE/D5-00773-490F5805; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:19:16 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: , References: <6239d.2b983615.3db6e85a@cs.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:19:13 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac2wgfMirwNnig1+Shuc1aL8YneuQwAOXhwQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Next year's VTR/Triumphest's autocross was said to be held at Sonoma Raceway (ex-inferion, ex-Sear's Point). Hmmm, for a reasonable fee that would fun to take 10 or 15 laps. Any of the organizers listening? Johnnie > About the best we can do over here is an autocross. Slower speeds but > still a hoot. And no real noise limit. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/22/2012 8:40:25 AM Central Daylight Time, > don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > > One and a half hours of running at Goodwood in my TR for a couple > hundred > > bucks? You bet I'm jealous of some of the options across the water! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 07:32:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB152D0311 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473FA2D02D3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C5A4E1C0000BF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doe004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doe004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.77]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9122AE00008F for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:31:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Full-name: Chip19474 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:31:31 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1350999091; bh=lRFfPhnEJfENWS7sBi4HQDSs9x3ExMZIOdhnbyDvjFI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pcIYvURjaYeyKorecA7I/b7qByqozidKwO/d5pvWG5k4Wv/7T4W9Rpze8O5rKpNfn qBwzSxUhWoEBXg6CM7gadRZkeNyMg5ise9LE6JLyZbXx5IxGStMxn0kG92bhy/KVdR 3K0qaUyrRwfAbbCln8vpvpQ9L+gWj+w++lsbMxWo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50869c332c35 Subject: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I have some old-age induced play in my steering rack (it's definitely in the rack and not at the inner rod cups). Finding a new or rebuilt early TR4 steering rack is getting to be a challenge. Since they're seem to be a lot of later TR4 racks for sale, I'm wondering if there's anyway to fit the later rack to the earlier TR4 frame mounts. I know that the mountings are different between the later TR4/TR6 racks and the early racks but has anyone been able to actually mount a later rack to and earlier TR4 frame? Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1962 TR4 CT2052L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 08:05:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFCE2D0331 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:05:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F389D2D02E4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:03:27 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=PJBm7VhiftQA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=AmCU9PHj2y0A:10 a=qSWq6YyzlpHhQ_FukqcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50434] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 8C/68-11114-EE3A6805; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:04:30 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: "Cliff Hansen" , "list Triumph" References: <1F38D6BEEBE94288BD99B6118AABFD1D@Shemp> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:11:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Splash plates for TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Cliff, Thanks for the warning. I was considering buying a set of those splash plates myself. Sounds like you are getting closer to finishing your car. I am at the wiring harness decision stage myself.. I would prefer to go with the Advanced Autowire harness but the last time I checked, it was $520.00. I may go that way anyway.. Regards, Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 09:34:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282412D0324 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AF92D02E2 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:35:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.166] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:35:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:35:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 48136 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2012 15:35:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351006506; bh=teiPJBQ9yyKiUPYftYR7HVLiiu3CqSJxNqkQsS10CvY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w0uIATt1TyoWZTM3L99u2HeKdStZvsD7jMIy10Et3JGcKw+hjmgquke3ICLWraqVGIsnb4sAVQXx0zvw/KcycRZY6s6K3m867zP/oij3tdWD1CngvJZIIBMSgiigkPTdtzZODt/mN62CIxjBsaaPoFDLcJyJmWtES3+n2VWy7NE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WUCqPtgA4wImo9gnetcON5Stt2Al3WVIeZ5L6KXKMqkiZtCdHBMXGTdAtdj4u/QQrqE0opM2BUq/4qTYo1oRcinl5v4Q5ffpPd/ReA3xf+2zBjL3AdJNGEhHhOQ69SbZrqulNGAt78xLJVHVJ9Oq1sXmqMWSOQO0QM1HiWP9SLw=; 7KZ9RXpepePPJlyOHjpceZuKD_S4VaZuDjaoF4Psn2ZyYrEunghjeZaZLy9u phX0jNlt1yluh3bQk6EVNJ3R6_NutG7JMdXITN1pW2At1JtGWlyD7kIv1xC6 QqJ9dxb45K7He0nrT3hlxB9_8pgsAyK567bvzrm7DR5.Z7uOWRPH0eMy5eG7 2ClspuVsS_LSWeRGmy7IvTa.ZYlDCQo1R0N5zMgZc5yduFtH0PWYs.P2KAcP 29uyPKplN7rgn66CnSHBR6pXYK3KuqtQMZNjK8E9ZUNRAtDq5KtWf_OJVy9f uFOsvhou5VkSxz8D0xwuILEwGXKc7l3TllENttl.5XW3jiWTxBZipKAiCvFD sMNsK5wP.8TisDPH_j17dNi_7rOxAmNYJiLk7uLEJeuAFQA-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:35:06 PDT c29tZSB0aW1lIGFnbyBpIGFza2VkIHRoZSBxdWVzdGlvbiBvZiB3aGF0IHlvdSBndXlzIHdoZXJlIHVzaW5nIGZvciBhIGN1cCBob2xkZXIgaW4geW91ciBUUjMuCnNvbWUgb25lIHRvbGQgbWUgdGhleSB3aGVyZSB1c2luZyBhIG5pY2Ugc2xpbSBkdWFsIGhvbGRlciBmb3JtIGEgVlcgSmV0dGEuIGFuZCB5b3Ugc2VudCBtZSBhIHBpY3R1cmUgb2YgaXQgaW5zdGFsbGVkLgppIGZpbmFsbHkgd29uIG9uZSBvbiBlYmF5Lgpjb3VsZCB0aGF0IG5pY2UgcGVyc29uIGNvbnRhY3QgbWUgdG8gZGlzY3VzcyBob3cgeW8BMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 08:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 cup holder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net some time ago i asked the question of what you guys where using for a cup holder in your TR3. some one told me they where using a nice slim dual holder form a VW Jetta. and you sent me a picture of it installed. i finally won one on ebay. could that nice person contact me to discuss how you mounted it under your glove box? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 10:05:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7292D02EF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5987A2D02EF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 09:52:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:53:54 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.200] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:53:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2012 15:53:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351007634; bh=bGFDAEc8rTkHds7cIiIZGYHglrkq77Ra4NPLSqDvif4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=45rG5nq+n5yeOkM39LNlABIq/e0/uopU/DPW+nIIqBKPfBr14ZFSWRlOKyWnySK99zT1YajnOW1PuE3/d3nuK0j60tR+hKY1vGY3dV3kSjjf0dr8zZNKLwRcbmOZ7JPmyTBOCGvDmXdrQoHyDvcESmvt1HSXLRdtdCoj/KQGEhs= ixnuiItFWUsw_D9B6pD9Nd_Dz7eVIrlNXupc2W_yEOzznL_f8yi4OC60mD_t 1ihVYjc0i4iglq2obC3_SxrW9qmTm0Oh_OQXX1h4n7caIDG3IqrWiK3vsw7C qqkzZuN7rcaLG8TaVZ4GSFqxXtoxLRS2pgOKQnFCNo.CsFX54h3q_Lq4hQ0B 1wSOId7hDYMfK_74OAi_47pRRWyX8wJuSqCMHcAkpyYkCceTlhOPTP.VHEKb RbQSUY1q0e3izvoxCYI4oWkM6_b_jyZvMt.nyUwi3SGdSgcuOPeBzSRld8sg JsSzwVDWIyiI_53YQ1uWXiTsIA6UQ_MnPZZ68arvxEOMv7DjCsWERTf6A5CE 0rONSFRET2Gk2wq1ynnm4o4.rHbBtz1Fkgk3IiYH.Rps.6hpq1ejgfgyLVQH NHtUclZ3ajnY9JBZxdgtp2QdOPjlRBcAiiSMVfodbx6kxKpolBXyhZR7V318 kTmkRb8S46zXSf2Om Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2012 08:53:53 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Frank Fisher'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1351006506.36036.YahooMailNeo@web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:53:43 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac2xNCyzOrGq49KCQ9OSHbeBhtC4qwAAh3Cw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cup holder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If they do make contact, I would like to see a picture of it as well. Thx, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 cup holder some time ago i asked the question of what you guys where using for a cup holder in your TR3. some one told me they where using a nice slim dual holder form a VW Jetta. and you sent me a picture of it installed. i finally won one on ebay. could that nice person contact me to discuss how you mounted it under your glove box? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 12:54:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF2F2D0166 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2FD2D02A4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:45:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 14:46:29 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAS12347; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:46:30 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="postmaster@[192.168.1.141]"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 64-121-239-224.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.141]) ([64.121.239.224]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 14:46:30 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:46:29 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is the play mostly when driving straight? My pinion was worn in the straight position, rack was OK. Replaced the pinion and fine for the last 12 years. The later racks may not have the locating pins used for the solid mounts, but I don't know. Allen CT13678L > I have some old-age induced play in my steering rack (it's > definitely in > the rack and not at the inner rod cups). Finding a new or rebuilt > early TR4 > steering rack is getting to be a challenge. Since they're seem to > be a > lot of later TR4 racks for sale, I'm wondering if there's anyway to > fit the > later rack to the earlier TR4 frame mounts. > > I know that the mountings are different between the later TR4/TR6 > racks and > the early racks but has anyone been able to actually mount a later > rack to > and earlier TR4 frame? > > Chip Krout > Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. > Skippack, PA > 1962 TR4 CT2052L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 14:43:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0704D2D0328 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B542D0211 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 97F5A1C000054; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dob003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dob003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.137]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 16621E00008E; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:36:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Full-name: Chip19474 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:36:39 -0400 (EDT) To: allenhess@mgcarclub.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351024600; bh=HtMwAN5Q9zK6CpE+Z5AlCIo2L+lSzS63LnSfon3/G3Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q2R/rQbV3yy1EPLTKc2e7MFygfWPcl9tK7Dt2agd/umVlKSdXJ0CjNNteVbrr4hhO CUr6CljteeWyvsOg+5pLhrjUWhR5m/JYY6gAXBoBff9HHuvQFkZTLCa7F1Z3w5/Q2A ePpDI90glZXSaeCsiAE3MODPk3MaP337k6rFg8OI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5086ffd86cc2 Subject: Re: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The play is noticeable when the wheels are off the ground and I turn the steering wheel side-to-side or when the wheels are off the ground and I grab a wheel and move it left or right. The play (subtle, muffled click) is coming from the rack & pinion area. If these are rebuildable, where does one buy a rebuild kit? Another thing I wondered about....years ago I owned a 1966 Chevy Corvair. As the steering box got "sloppy", I was able to tighten the lash at the box with an adjustment screw/bolt......of course that wasn't rack & pinion but does the TR rack have an adjustment capability to tighten lash? chip In a message dated 10/23/2012 2:55:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, allenhess@mgcarclub.com writes: Is the play mostly when driving straight? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 15:26:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303BC2D033E for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6459E2D027C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:15:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121023211648.NPCN4251.mta11.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:16:48 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id ElGk1k00h3enFnk05lGn7T; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:16:48 -0400 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=fOGLDGWwhsMA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Ylo5Zy54J9VGNk8rSmYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=Y8OdqKaaY_4A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=9Bg8SWwkULMA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=2egZpVYV__CurVdb:21 a=D9tP3lLppzU0qyYC:21 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: , , References: <1ab3.67cbb050.3db859d7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:16:44 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJtNWGZgoxMd30J3BbuGyymK3xmaJaIViWQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chip - Worm and sector steering boxes often have some play built into the system when the gears are at sharp steering angles. This way, since most of the wear occurs at straight angles, the lash adjustment won't cause binding when you steer into corners but can reduce backlash where you don't want it which is in the straight ahead position. If you over-adjust the lash screw, you will find the steering is much better when driving straight ahead but corners will terrify you when the steering wheel won't self-center. That means the sector or worm shaft is worn. Hopefully that makes sense. So much for that type of steering box. Looking at the Big Brown Book for TR-6 repair, I see a shim pack that can adjust for end play of the pinion and there is also a steering rack damper that helps to snub side-to-side play of the rack. In this case, side-to side movement is perpendicular to the rack, not parallel. That is also adjusted with shim packs. Not sure how similar a TR-4 is. I'm sure more knowledgeable folks will reply. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chip19474@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:37 PM To: allenhess@mgcarclub.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question The play is noticeable when the wheels are off the ground and I turn the steering wheel side-to-side or when the wheels are off the ground and I grab a wheel and move it left or right. The play (subtle, muffled click) is coming from the rack & pinion area. If these are rebuildable, where does one buy a rebuild kit? Another thing I wondered about....years ago I owned a 1966 Chevy Corvair. As the steering box got "sloppy", I was able to tighten the lash at the box with an adjustment screw/bolt......of course that wasn't rack & pinion but does the TR rack have an adjustment capability to tighten lash? chip In a message dated 10/23/2012 2:55:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, allenhess@mgcarclub.com writes: Is the play mostly when driving straight? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 18:04:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6DE2D03DA for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4ED2D03AA for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:37:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 19:38:47 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CAS56233; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:38:46 -0400 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=64.121.239.224; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="allenhess@mgcarclub.com"; x-sender="postmaster@[192.168.1.141]"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 64-121-239-224.c3-0.eas-ubr3.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com (HELO [192.168.1.141]) ([64.121.239.224]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2012 19:38:47 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: Chip19474@aol.com, =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?=93triumphs_list=93?= Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:38:45 -0400 References: <1ab3.67cbb050.3db859d7@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Early TR4 Steering Rack Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Moss has most of the parts. I think I got mine from TRF years ago. All the info and specs are in the Bentley Manual. Aside from the pinion there is a bushing for the pinion shaft and shims to adjust pinion mesh to the rack. There is also a ball joint on each end of the rack (inside the boot) which uses shims to adjust the play. One other thing about maintenance; there is a threaded plug in the cap which shims the pinion. That plug is supposed to be removed and a grease fitting installed to grease the rack, then take the fitting out and reinstall the plug. Allen On Oct 23, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Chip19474@aol.com wrote: > The play is noticeable when the wheels are off the ground and I turn > the steering wheel side-to-side or when the wheels are off the > ground and I grab a wheel and move it left or right. The play > (subtle, muffled click) is coming from the rack & pinion area. > > If these are rebuildable, where does one buy a rebuild kit? > > Another thing I wondered about....years ago I owned a 1966 Chevy > Corvair. As the steering box got "sloppy", I was able to tighten > the lash at the box with an adjustment screw/bolt......of course > that wasn't rack & pinion but does the TR rack have an adjustment > capability to tighten lash? > > chip > > In a message dated 10/23/2012 2:55:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, allenhess@mgcarclub.com > writes: > Is the play mostly when driving straight? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 18:20:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFC72D04DC for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180702D0382 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Eebk1k0090lTkoCA3oDZuW; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:13:33 +0000 Received: from Dell ([24.5.127.12]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EoDY1k00V0GAcNo8QoDZ9M; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:13:33 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'John & Pat Donnelly'" , , References: <6239d.2b983615.3db6e85a@cs.com> <002f01cdb0bc$6a504c80$3ef0e580$@rr.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 17:13:37 -0700 thread-index: Ac2wgfMirwNnig1+Shuc1aL8YneuQwAOXhwQADAvi1A= Content-Language: en-us Cc: "Cregg Cowan \(Cregg Cowan\)" , Richard & Karyn Gibbon Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Johnnie, What would you consider a reasonable fee? Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John & Pat Donnelly Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:19 PM To: Dave1massey@cs.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Next year's VTR/Triumphest's autocross was said to be held at Sonoma Raceway (ex-inferion, ex-Sear's Point). Hmmm, for a reasonable fee that would fun to take 10 or 15 laps. Any of the organizers listening? Johnnie > About the best we can do over here is an autocross. Slower speeds but > still a hoot. And no real noise limit. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/22/2012 8:40:25 AM Central Daylight Time, > don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > > One and a half hours of running at Goodwood in my TR for a couple > hundred > > bucks? You bet I'm jealous of some of the options across the water! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 19:48:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC53D2D03C7 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E1F2D0396 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D3794380000A7; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dla002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dla002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.180.133]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A94FAE000087; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Catpusher@aol.com Full-name: Catpusher Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:38:21 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351042701; bh=/QUBeqM9ddfFlnFShJQvQWFg2eJj4U98FDCDT3ZY6ro=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YrlNSgBtEnxaj2KQmAje7d7upwWZWeQznHnH5TJofJVWAx4tRwudznk3ucFX2L2wL nLRxpe/ZYOFnql5MU1WMAo6yhPQkkmC6rwUI1jY723MUZzyVRNO7aoxg6Dl6pwGttw oGQB/CrhG9cPmR6QQjHD3TN7h2LwvC1HFaAVGaXI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c95087468d7516 Subject: [TR] Re Non TR question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am the second owner of a 67 E Type that I have put well over 200,000 miles on; many of them towing my 56 TR3 race car to SCCA National events. 66 and 67 were great years for E Types; and Jaguar clearly must have paid Lucas more money for the electrical items than other makes, and the quality shows. TR Regards, Hardy Wise To: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: [TR] Non TR question ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 19:50:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA922D04C2 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:50:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24342D03B8 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:47:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 01:48:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.254] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 01:48:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 01:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 54728 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2012 01:48:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351043315; bh=N9AFvfd5K1K5INDFfpyVk4x2GCkb/JlOUn295UXKDnw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=usi72xL9PqLhYWLEgfYXOcQ+WMLoXyhX/TqnHJCY3P0cN24ROBZXnTvepbkRHt3+QLMknDQaSgBTJd9uT6YRzN3SoeawEe3Js0HTDhdXRuUTsOYfKlo1gA0QmMVXjt5uonG8Z9y5/rck5AUfC3fHLUOTmo51iupf9vOx81xXMN8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wNtRax1myuN3THdvX29qBPKhglPUKpsh20Z34fQVMxIoRkvBGFxNkxKxinjjQ2XHxQiU5FOgR3EF1H/Op/AJOMUq50Fg5oC+Xvj7KbN3HiSf2N+7pz30mItWggh1lQQZYi3nsumdZ8BPIJBYUbYOmNYIM5/AnbfwGMXfaPXRGGM=; 0CL3wO.FN16lzjWQMYIJCbYiebQ119WSdl0KAkAGrJlGN2T7sQVjoLDSomab 2E5IzfmXV7A4XKwlD5._i3iSlir0tpJ24COUPnWGYk8MssbenhQ_YtKt1Ir3 ALRO9f8YxOwWqH8dotb44a9MxfBXEzZmP_QP6kv6eoTqVfRx8VVH3lDixPxc 5wVyLms1cdp7byih5_hgXW22iZxznE5.7vma87EAz0mIiZuka84HbVEsoIl9 wPBd4RuIKCwGroODPoZtQasT6sKDvT.T50t09.vRmw8EOB8lEQS_WNKsICRP hRNcJZGaDiLUTYe_Z8yuQsh5Du1hJpblA8RJre6jaodngCoija6mibBacLfO TJTKlsb9nqC4Mg6Tu2aDOK5UYxMrzJDq4dwK50EKkRy3l_KYXLfFgu.V4F__ ExSzrrRCOd3RYBx4NbYFdhIWUNBl3gmlXjUGIGSsJE5qiU10JmlTcbCQRJEU pmVvs9aoZCUlYh6tO17CLLGIrnYg8wh3HM6G7swkhEYRb9g-- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:48:35 PDT aSBzdXNwZWN0IHRoZSBpbnN1cmFuY2Ugd291bGQgYmUgdGhlIGJpZ2dlc3QgY29zdC4uCmJ1dCBhcyBpIHRoaW5rIGluZmluZW9uIGlzIHRoZSBiZXN0IHRyYWNrIGluIHRoZSB3b3JsZCwgaWQgcGF5wqAgbG90IHRvIHRha2UgbGFwcyBpbiBteSBUUi4KaSBrZWVwIHdhbnRpbmcgdG8gdGFrZSB0aGUgb3BlbiB3aGVlbCBjbGFzcy4KwqAKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KRnJvbTogS2luZGVybGVocmVyIDxraW5kZXJsZWhyZXJAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ.ClRvOiAnSm9obiAmIFBhdCABMAEBAQE- References: <6239d.2b983615.3db6e85a@cs.com> <002f01cdb0bc$6a504c80$3ef0e580$@rr.com> <003401cdb17c$6a26a130$3e73e390$@net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:48:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "kinderlehrer@comcast.net" , 'John & Pat Donnelly' , "Dave1massey@cs.com" , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Cc: "Cregg Cowan \(Cregg Cowan\)" , Richard & Karyn Gibbon Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i suspect the insurance would be the biggest cost.. but as i think infineon is the best track in the world, id pay lot to take laps in my TR. i keep wanting to take the open wheel class. ________________________________ From: Kinderlehrer To: 'John & Pat Donnelly' ; Dave1massey@cs.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: Cregg Cowan (Cregg Cowan) ; Richard & Karyn Gibbon Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Johnnie, What would you consider a reasonable fee? Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John & Pat Donnelly Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:19 PM To: Dave1massey@cs.com; Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood Next year's VTR/Triumphest's autocross was said to be held at Sonoma Raceway (ex-inferion, ex-Sear's Point). Hmmm, for a reasonable fee that would fun to take 10 or 15 laps. Any of the organizers listening? Johnnie > About the best we can do over here is an autocross. Slower speeds but > still a hoot. And no real noise limit. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/22/2012 8:40:25 AM Central Daylight Time, > don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > > One and a half hours of running at Goodwood in my TR for a couple > hundred > > bucks? You bet I'm jealous of some of the options across the water! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 20:17:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836382D04BF for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from brightmail-internal4.sri.com (brightmail-internal4.SRI.COM [128.18.84.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AED92D0369 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mars.esd.sri.com (mars.esd.sri.com [128.18.26.200]) by brightmail-internal4.sri.com (SRI Internal SMTP Gateway) with SMTP id 11.39.16120.A1F47805; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.20.12] (user-64-9-232-185.googlewifi.com [64.9.232.185]) by mars.esd.sri.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.05 (built Sep 1 2009; 64bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0MCD00AT9KWMI100@mars.esd.sri.com> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:12:17 -0700 From: Cregg Cowan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) To: Frank Fisher References: <6239d.2b983615.3db6e85a@cs.com> <002f01cdb0bc$6a504c80$3ef0e580$@rr.com> <003401cdb17c$6a26a130$3e73e390$@net> <1351043315.41768.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> wR7AGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVsX/bNZaCjSwVn+ddZm1g3MHcxcjJISFgIrHx1Bk2CFtM4sK9 9UA2F4eQwElGia1T17KDJHgFBCV+TL7H0sXIwcEsIC9x8LwsSJhZwFpi5aRtjBD165gkOvas YYSoV5N4v3cu2FAWAVWJ2UtfgcXZBNQlXrxbCLZYVMBYYsG7k2A1IkD1Lc8msYIMYhb4yyhx ZEcDWIOwQJrEo56ZUBv2MEo0f2sG6+YU8JS42bacdQKjwCwkB85COHAWkgMXMDKvYpRJKspM zyjJTczM0YWFn4lecVGmXnJ+7iZGcEiGtO5gXLHH8BCjAAejEg+vwNm2ACHWxLLiytxDjBIc zEoivJPvAoV4UxIrq1KL8uOLSnNSiw8xSnOwKInzfjPn9xcSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJMnFwSjUw Kvw12qe2VafMWqYzc27OfJ1jm/4eMyxdvvqF7JJjU15tm3vcVuLCjrOn3MUv2Cv9bOb/2+17 jH/9lpId+hGe29+m7b2npvBw6dyEfk/55OAlMyx9nV6XLri2Vsvzd1zAwq3afaek+YQO3ph+ a+VrheyNWx52Kaze/SRfvsPjqGCtyOfFgYtz9JRYijMSDbWYi4oTATQMYJ1FAgAA Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" , Richard & Karyn Gibbon Subject: Re: [TR] Club Triumph track day at Goodwood --> VTR/Triumphest 2013 AutoX at Sonoma Raceway Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We are planning to have the autoX at Sonoma/Infineon/Sears Point, but it will almost certainly be in the paddock parking area. The track has told us that we can have a lunch-time track drive, depending on who has rented the track that day (Thursday Oct 3). Certainly if someone has paid for the track and is not taking a lunch break, then we won't get the track drive. In any event, they won't be high speed laps. Let me know if you have more questions... Cregg Cowan TTSCC 2012 Activity Coordinator TTSCC 2013 Triumphest/VTR Co-Chair ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 20:33:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1502D0457 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.252]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BDA2D03B8 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.240] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 26600 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351045971; bh=MgLspZYWf0brPvx0EXxFf+Jon/j6OhWsxIHepnDPWnA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zjS8PmQmHcn8xw0eZM8oBaHfbKoEjYObLr69DD7Xipgt4ds/4xlQew0ttVk5hTV9MJJ9lGb07ZEGG1ydBc2/x06rw6slLCXnzL6CJoODccZf96IstzuhiXXp5OIJ6GmV0Rju19Gu5HZ0gP9B9Z5Za+Qih199k2aTlw2f+YPacw4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BBoqhzdlW7p46aCYqG/hzG+5T/qS6vY3JS8ZrpguXhkjfHu+eJWaXnfbkn4XBpZGjlRMhmoXFk5LApdKqlrOKiF7OARuO3Zg/hNnhx2EdI8Md0J8KHZXW+vhPoRU5WfB1AlcWdG34D/2IUmDZpmdf+ZqVQ9ch7MOc209bPdPhXk=; jDPZuPUnC6VqgAA1k81U3TYqltAPIRgBbujbDayklUJl.6kfP6JKO1qXCVNs dGrgJ0CYakqcCG5pncfoASRigJnVYuxfVI4hBJz.qC.wDyXVCTWPMvJDXSFU st.g.PEWsjzYsahXY03kiFMs.UDsmj_xkyuFgeDwxrfupFGp0Lqaip6igqxb jfraH66rkMARCSkIVMnpBUQfWpbfNMOHWNwIw3S.KOftf58qpV.5G9WOzxxz 4rgLOllopTRIBkq8R8B749wBlPIYFdDKRtYd.QZ0LjYwQ7_IGipKRYAYhZst u8.yIkv_Wn8vaXfhLdezt9sMvR8DUpLay8AtWwf85E7ugrG5cel_aiQoMBey a07Bc0EkjInc4304NVrENI.NAPifJ6Pezm4E64IdiNO3dqyrmq6IbYkY4S3d PcJ5LnRRtt_GwfQf8GK9D Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:32:50 PDT QW0gbmVlZGluZyB0byBvcGVuIHVwIHRoZSBjb250cm9sIGhlYWQgYWdhaW4gYW5kIGhhdmUgYSBxdWVzdGlvbiBhYm91dCB0aGUgYmFja3BsYXRlLsKgIFRoZSBiYWNrcGxhdGUgdHViZSBzbGlkZXMgb3ZlciB0aGUgc3RhdG9yIHR1YmUgYXMgSSBzZWUgaXQuwqAgSSdtIGFsc28gdGhpbmtpbmcgaXQgaGFzIHRvIGZpdCB0aWdodGx5IGVub3VnaCB0byBob2xkIHRoZSBjb250cm9sIGhlYWQgc29saWQgd2hpbGUgdHVybmluZy7CoCBJcyB0aGlzIHNpbXBseSBhIGZyaWN0aW9uIGZpdD_CoCBPciBpcyB0aGVyZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:32:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] control head backplate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Am needing to open up the control head again and have a question about the backplate. The backplate tube slides over the stator tube as I see it. I'm also thinking it has to fit tightly enough to hold the control head solid while turning. Is this simply a friction fit? Or is there something inside the backplate tube that slides into the slot in the stator tube? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 23 23:53:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AB72D046A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:53:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A30B2D038D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:50:30 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=MYATAgP0xlQA:10 a=AnJvKB0iPL1OVxj1XKUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 30/AB-01425-6E187805; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:51:34 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1351045970.24817.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:51:33 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac2xkCxIHU7bAVknQ06F+l+CkuEBAQAGxG2w Subject: Re: [TR] control head backplate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Or is there > something inside > the backplate tube that slides into the slot in the stator tube? Should be 3 places where the outer tube is punched inward, to form projections that engage the slot. Otherwise, the fit between the two tubes is fairly loose. On adjustable steering wheels the outer tube slides when you adjust the wheel position. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 24 04:13:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920192D0469 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83492D03A9 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 04:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so251930lag.14 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:12:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=T3qivGlfGeH3JohhnC2WYLmQFR733X5Wxph8jA0hREQ=; b=RTAtk4nyO0DBlcT3m7xpqaOJsntvdnLr6QhfYIFq4vrxBoVMavpxABNOm8erQma6BB ydt2LnO4QqTK0Kek3/39igZvxody5gRdfqORmUZGNQ7MGCwxupbMcy7nX7/vhPWiOdyZ SNSclYBl1bFgEHnozzGObjkV3sGXABO3C6JGnyRh7MYDRWs9fZKKK5b51JoYD643sORn oqGgN9FRr2yK7TxBofU6WMApau8sumSMF0+UVLEJhVDaCelmig2o0WoDNepyynNWPP0/ nUW7uzmYd6oFonZo+iT4tzdv7Trs+aO7rJa5xZR6Ie6IlsFkbXLySs1HajYJZLfMdfMp eMKQ== Received: by 10.152.122.11 with SMTP id lo11mr14087161lab.3.1351073528160; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:11:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:11:47 -0400 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] DE Craigslist TR3A at decent price Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No affiliation, but I do kinda like that Union Jack motif on the center instrument panel... http://delaware.craigslist.org/cto/3225073561.html Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 24 09:22:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5392D04BD for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BED62D0438 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:16:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.247]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 24 Oct 2012 15:17:23 +0000 Received: from Oldpine47HP (bngr-208-111-201-136-pppoe.dsl.bngr.epix.net [208.111.201.136]) by relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1C6B82F80C0 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:17:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "Fred Light" To: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:17:20 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3A seat springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know where I can get two seat springs for my TR3 other than the big three suppliers. I am looking for used, but restorable springs TIA Fred TS57038 is mine ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 24 16:50:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCF12C0308 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:50:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A4D2D01EC for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1253887oag.14 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=9k32yaD8PiklNE7EvO5abMHWQTR8n82lxXvhzhEyO9s=; b=DwCf4SnLaty3QK/zweyFbCsvHryUwxDW4Iq+xE8+PyqisfpdtBR5OPYaXFxE6voZUD bPUryfmHYQODzvkQJfu/FoI9kz34OZK+UbcejhKYH+OCpDSPTF1nndPrSJohiBZi+2yN 7KTmFmSANSQgHszdqQHnCseSec+mEEJ9ErplBl2EnqQOWRbYkfkjxM6WvsgQhA6Qxyip 9J/ezZXCcFukNJPdKaK0RbWFXfonQ1lXRkLX80mfHLXdlA3I6J50FWra949mOWXgzWsD w6gKegTxI9t09NgMOrq8d6zetiDtz1OJQXITOnTVTm/iyDY7d/cAPT3Kq1xemrzROdiC ybKQ== Received: by 10.60.14.200 with SMTP id r8mr9140186oec.45.1351118502743; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6sm16802335obk.3.2012.10.24.15.41.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:41:46 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac2yOH911LjjehscQSe48SQDJohhiA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Paint Color - Dash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Can someone tell me the correct white color for an early 1962 TR4 dash? I can't find the documentation for spa white, old English white, or whatever white. Looking for the correct white for concours. Many thanks! Jim Henningsen 62 TR4 - fresh out of the paint booth 75 TR6 Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 25 08:30:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D342C0C9E for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463282D04E0 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 22B7838000176; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mha002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mha002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.130]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E8EF8E00008C; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:27:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <02b801cdb238$c08e5b00$41ab1100$@gmail.com> To: trguy75@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 149.10.144.120 by Webmail-m123.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.213) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:27:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:27:17 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351175238; bh=MKEZm2h27todGqrZJjVJyisEtflbBEZM1V0rKdf8pBQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zgi+tRReR5sh1zOLaux7wxUSO7SwBV04khspzcRANv+Jd6o9qcFLCLI0/uVHx8ZEH cJYSLBtaqptWuJQ6gEUYA8ahuPoaK42z7xOPLRM12nUUlNwkhFQ1yQLExHxQTOVaXH OvTPCjZZF/VQhoMEtbtMm94WuoV+HId/afXK2vLk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50894c4548bd Subject: Re: [TR] Paint Color - Dash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It should be Triumph's Spa White. See http://www.vtr.org/maintain/paint-charts/martin-senour-colors.jpg for the old Martin-Senour code. --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: James Henningsen To: triumphs Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 8:24 pm Subject: [TR] Paint Color - Dash Can someone tell me the correct white color for an early 1962 TR4 dash? I can't find the documentation for spa white, old English white, or whatever white. Looking for the correct white for concours. Many thanks! Jim Henningsen 62 TR4 - fresh out of the paint booth 75 TR6 Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/zoboherald@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 25 08:45:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573CA2D04AC for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from aurora.ties2.net (aurora.ties2.net [198.22.19.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7C2D038B for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:45:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (97-116-153-199.mpls.qwest.net [97.116.153.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora.ties2.net (8.14.2+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id q9PEkX3E023296 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:46:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe DeMuth To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:46:32 -0500 Subject: [TR] Seat springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am also looking for a pair of used springs for a TR3A. Maybe somebody has a warehouse of them. I need a set that still have a little life in them. Otherwise I will resort to foam. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 25 13:41:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA192D064A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:41:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205F72D05CC for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:39:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so2039980iak.14 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:40:55 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:to:from:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=Mvpfz2AS4ZcjMk9muhvDOuCGhqQKj43cJkaSNmtb4r0=; b=FseSWsZ2YmFOtf1OQP/pkZXxGP/BmG6P5oHhjIkg0Ye959Ls0eE8RHZfsBAOPbccEX 9h1dHY9FjyEz7VyUu7IqCAkbU5/nuS8hPfV1rQjmLH3eCUx0Shmhd5up95dh/ohusETi wL/bTGmEnU2n45j3LVGCnnMxFKk8LfjI22sZLMKrK3l0iZ6C70YbHJRhDc8YPcjdAy2E 9PKXqzb/M5Ak01hBCGNew0ZdJVhBdN9Nwp/JLr0tZcB4EOFa22Nno4ZJhWlOI8tlR6XX +9lcn/hUaKPxyWAAy7uYQDlayCFX6NBy8cJ7OALw3qtEcVR9xuts295wbJA9LGFLo+Fo 15Cg== Received: by 10.50.187.165 with SMTP id ft5mr5619972igc.12.1351194055209; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.190.216.168] (66.sub-70-194-132.myvzw.com. [70.194.132.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dq9sm5304150igc.5.2012.10.25.12.40.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:40:54 -0700 (PDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?cGVycnlmbHlAZ21haWwuY29t?=" Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:40:53 -0400 Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Body_shop_close_to_Indianapolis?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After 15 years guess it was time Big jacked up pickup backed into the tr3 Sad Not too bad. Still drivable. Will need apron and paint match which will be no easy task I am in indy. My go to guy won't do it Tucker madawick passed away in Bloomington and shop closed Need a good shop anywhere close to central Indiana This is an insurance claim so doesn't have to be cheap Appreciate any leads Perry Hammock 61 tr3a Apple green Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 25 22:29:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FACF2D067C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:29:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.presby.edu (mail.presby.edu [192.188.108.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D18B2D0650 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.84.110.209] (account mtgaines@mail.presby.edu HELO localhost) by mail.presby.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPSA id 100862466 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:56:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Gaines To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a roll bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is very little added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded to the frame. One of my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar is just that, but Hard Dog doesn't make one for the TR6, and I'm not finding any other one that I can afford. I like the "looks" of the Boss Frog bar; it looks pretty sturdy with a single loop spanning both seats with bracing that provides four mounting feet and two additional diagonal braces. It looks just like the one Moss sells. Trouble is, the feet simply bolt through the floor panel to heavy-duty back plates with no frame mounting. I'm wondering if the back plates under the main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. I had a local welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my differential mount early on, and it doesn't seem that these back plates would be all that different a job. Maybe I could even work out a template for new back plates that actually have a flange that could be welded to the frame. So, my question is, has anyone actually done something like this, or is it a hair brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting just the front two feet rather than all four this way may not give enough strength. What do you think? Tim Gaines Clinton, SC 1974 TR6 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 05:58:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486962D0685 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A50B2D063D for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobDell (64-252-187-192.adsl.snet.net [64.252.187.192]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LlDCg-1StD0v10AY-00azse; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:58:14 -0400 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Tim Gaines" , References: <30013321.86.1351225386159.JavaMail.User@User-PC> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:58:26 -0400 sfK4H9oCmQpznIeW0y8dDEjOjcdudSW5z7p4FT8ONmOw0MRzhC 5sdYr6U535RLBCzSbVf34QI0lfB9iOghsQGEuRWG6D3LhDvxL/ 11iwD1TIoMdgxToHBfAaSorDj0dz9lD/ZSjYp/CyERbdou+qCF xCJD9t5R27e4zFJ59EtEhTysJ7nG2XVl9GsRV75WiDVjghnSlE DJXoqjZ+ahBP/jhzRX/ZpEO1EQp5hxOF/UZK59I7eZ7pJQHJ4R FCR28JJWAnnbVCU14YIGQipNWwVIarlRs4OoxFK9kJrC38oqed E6qAngbZPBLyFCM9eZ76IOjqIUE42u5iubCbZRYcz Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Francois came up with this double hoop roll bar (https://sites.google.com/site/faucherf/rollbar) that he sells the plans for in pdf & cad format. This is a decorative bar but you may be able to adapt it to a functional bar by re-using the dimensions. Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gaines Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:23 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] roll bars I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a roll bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is very little added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded to the frame. One of my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar is just that, but Hard Dog doesn't make one for the TR6, and I'm not finding any other one that I can afford. I like the "looks" of the Boss Frog bar; it looks pretty sturdy with a single loop spanning both seats with bracing that provides four mounting feet and two additional diagonal braces. It looks just like the one Moss sells. Trouble is, the feet simply bolt through the floor panel to heavy-duty back plates with no frame mounting. I'm wondering if the back plates under the main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. I had a local welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my differential mount early on, and it doesn't seem that these back plates would be all that different a job. Maybe I could even work out a template for new back plates that actually have a flange that could be welded to the frame. So, my question is, has anyone actually done something like this, or is it a hair brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting just the front two feet rather than all four this way may not give enough strength. What do you think? Tim Gaines Clinton, SC 1974 TR6 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 06:00:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B838E2D06D4 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB212D048B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:00:30 -0600 (MDT) a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=D5HH5mBpWgsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=56Cod1GEqL0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=aF18r3IgTiVcyzfCLKkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=E6k37eg1NvgA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:42339] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DC/09-01425-F9B7A805; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:01:35 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:01:36 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 To: Tim Gaines References: <30013321.86.1351225386159.JavaMail.User@User-PC> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, I have no opinion on roll bars, but I have heard it mentioned on this list and forums that classic insurance companies will not insure a car with a roll bar. Again, I have no experience with roll bars so this may be BS. But, it wouldn't hurt to check with your insurance underwriter first. Bob On 10/26/2012 12:23 AM, Tim Gaines wrote: > I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a roll > bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is very little > added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded to the frame. One of > my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar is just that, but Hard Dog > doesn't make one for the TR6, and I'm not finding any other one that I can > afford. I like the "looks" of the Boss Frog bar; it looks pretty sturdy with > a single loop spanning both seats with bracing that provides four mounting > feet and two additional diagonal braces. It looks just like the one Moss > sells. Trouble is, the feet simply bolt through the floor panel to heavy-duty > back plates with no frame mounting. I'm wondering if the back plates under > the main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could > actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. I had a local > welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my differential mount > early on, and it doesn't seem that these back plates would be all that > different a job. Maybe I could even work out a template for new back plates > that actually have a flange that could be welded to the frame. So, my > question is, has anyone actually done something like this, or is it a hair > brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting just the front two feet rather > than all four this way may not give enough strength. What do you think? > > Tim Gaines > Clinton, SC > 1974 TR6 > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 06:29:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B44C2D06EA for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:29:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FC52D06BD for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:28:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.108.188]) by m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id FoVu1k00543vPlA01oVutF; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:29:55 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , "'Tim Gaines'" References: <30013321.86.1351225386159.JavaMail.User@User-PC> <508A7BA0.8090205@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:30:03 -0400 Thread-Index: AQIq23w7CelnKAOzg6PMfSTPlJMqzgG4+pdPlwNsNRA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Both my TRs (a TR3 and a TR250) have roll bars and the insurance (American Collectors) was unaffected Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 8:02 AM To: Tim Gaines Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Tim, I have no opinion on roll bars, but I have heard it mentioned on this list and forums that classic insurance companies will not insure a car with a roll bar. Again, I have no experience with roll bars so this may be BS. But, it wouldn't hurt to check with your insurance underwriter first. Bob On 10/26/2012 12:23 AM, Tim Gaines wrote: > I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a > roll bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is > very little added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded > to the frame. One of my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar > is just that, but Hard Dog doesn't make one for the TR6, and I'm not > finding any other one that I can afford. I like the "looks" of the > Boss Frog bar; it looks pretty sturdy with a single loop spanning both > seats with bracing that provides four mounting feet and two additional > diagonal braces. It looks just like the one Moss sells. Trouble is, > the feet simply bolt through the floor panel to heavy-duty back plates > with no frame mounting. I'm wondering if the back plates under the > main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could > actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. I had > a local welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my > differential mount early on, and it doesn't seem that these back > plates would be all that different a job. Maybe I could even work out > a template for new back plates that actually have a flange that could > be welded to the frame. So, my question is, has anyone actually done > something like this, or is it a hair brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting just the front two feet rather than all four this way may not give enough strength. What do you think? > > Tim Gaines > Clinton, SC > 1974 TR6 > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 07:45:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED83A2D0689 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC32D0623 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:39:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FpTf1k0030FhH24A3pgrdb; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:40:51 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Fpgr1k0082xZMJ48UpgrH9; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:40:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:40:50 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Tim Gaines Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a > roll > bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is very > little > added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded to the frame. Nonsense. If your TR6 body is unrusted original or properly-repaired with welded steel, you are fine. > One of > my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar is just that, A Miata does not *have* a frame, and neither do all the Spridgets and MGBs with roll bars. I seem to remember that your Spitfire does not have a frame at the locations where roll bars go. The Miata body is generally about as strong as a TR6 in this context. > I'm wondering if the back plates > under > the main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could > actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. Sure, but now you have the street disadvantage of a race car: no padding between frame and body. More vibration and noise. > I had a > local > welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my differential > mount > early on, and it doesn't seem that these back plates would be all that > different a job. Maybe I could even work out a template for new back > plates > that actually have a flange that could be welded to the frame. So, my > question is, has anyone actually done something like this, or is it a > hair > brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting just the front two feet > rather > than all four this way may not give enough strength. What do you > think? It's not a hare-brained idea, but it is way not necessary. As I said, if your body is in good shape, a body-mounted roll bar with proper backplates is just as safe as your Miata buddy's. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 10:43:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8192D2D06C4 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E222D0687 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W91 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:43:37 -0700 From: marty sukey To: , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:43:37 -0400 References: <32510849.68.1351223661733.JavaMail.User@User-PC>, <30013321.86.1351225386159.JavaMail.User@User-PC> FILETIME=[0BB14EB0:01CDB399] Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Depends on how far you want to go I guess. I purchased a roll bar kit from Jegs and installed it in my 6 a few years ago. Two of the mounts go through the parcel shelf and are welded to the frame. Two more protrude backward through the rear panel in front of the gas tank and then through the floor of the trunk and are welded to the frame there. Gas tank has been replace with a fuel cell in the trunk. I had a pretend roll bar in place for years, after my wife had the car up on two wheels at an autocross I decided to put in a more robust unit. Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 11:08:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214B82D0690 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:08:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D86682D0691 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:00:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16453 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2012 17:01:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.102.78) by smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.35) with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2012 17:01:03 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , "'Tim Gaines'" References: <30013321.86.1351225386159.JavaMail.User@User-PC> <336337928.752152.1351258850974.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:01:10 -0400 Thread-Index: AQIxgFz1oEqf6o4cXWBknfLdi5HiVZcENZMA Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I got a roll bar for my TR250 from Racetorations in the UK. I was worried that, unlike my TR3, this one was not bolted to the frame. Then my cousin (who owns Racetorations) sent me a picture of a TR6 which had rolled in an accident. Roll bar saved the driver's life. So I agree with Phil. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pethier@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:41 AM To: Tim Gaines Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars > I've decided that I have been pushing my luck driving my TR6 without a > roll bar. From what I have read on archived forums, there really is > very little added safety from roll bars that aren't bolted or welded > to the frame. Nonsense. If your TR6 body is unrusted original or properly-repaired with welded steel, you are fine. > One of > my Miata friends tells me that his Hard Dog bar is just that, A Miata does not *have* a frame, and neither do all the Spridgets and MGBs with roll bars. I seem to remember that your Spitfire does not have a frame at the locations where roll bars go. The Miata body is generally about as strong as a TR6 in this context. > I'm wondering if the back plates > under > the main (front) feet, which are pretty close to a frame member, could > actually be connected to the frame by welding them to flanges. Sure, but now you have the street disadvantage of a race car: no padding between frame and body. More vibration and noise. > I had a > local > welding shop fabricate and weld support flanges for my differential > mount early on, and it doesn't seem that these back plates would be > all that different a job. Maybe I could even work out a template for > new back plates that actually have a flange that could be welded to > the frame. So, my question is, has anyone actually done something like > this, or is it a hair brained idea? I'm also worried that mounting > just the front two feet rather than all four this way may not give > enough strength. What do you think? It's not a hare-brained idea, but it is way not necessary. As I said, if your body is in good shape, a body-mounted roll bar with proper backplates is just as safe as your Miata buddy's. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 11:58:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229472D06CD for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE68C2D068E for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FoSr1k0010lTkoCACtyZST; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:58:33 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FtyY1k00j2xZMJ48QtyYFE; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:58:33 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:58:32 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: marty sukey Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, mtgaines@presby.edu Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marty sukey" > To: mtgaines@presby.edu, triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:43:37 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars > Depends on how far you want to go I guess. I purchased a roll bar kit > from > Jegs and installed it in my 6 a few years ago. Two of the mounts go > through > the parcel shelf and are welded to the frame. Two more protrude > backward > through the rear panel in front of the gas tank and then through the > floor of > the trunk and are welded to the frame there. That will get you a nice increase in frame rigidity, always a nice thing in competition cars with serious spring rates. Can't believe it does much for safety in street or autocross. A roll bar is either adequate or not. Overkill does not add value. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 12:30:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D10E2D06C7 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DED2D04C5 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W120 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:28:45 -0700 From: marty sukey To: Phil Ethier Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:28:45 -0400 References: , <1946524524.764841.1351274312914.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> FILETIME=[BBC01350:01CDB3A7] Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , mtgaines@presby.edu Subject: Re: [TR] roll bars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Same could be said for a fancy paint job I guess. Added value for me and that's what counts from my end :) Marty > That will get you a nice increase in frame rigidity, always a nice thing in competition cars with serious spring rates. Can't believe it does much for safety in street or autocross. A roll bar is either adequate or not. Overkill does not add value. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 13:31:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAFA2D06B6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5D42D060F for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:31:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2012 19:32:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.235] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2012 19:32:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2012 19:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 53511 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2012 19:32:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351279927; bh=udPx7u6akY4EVW28PGq+w8+tbgd08OW9ajBD0XtsymM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yMs1MOKclHiEGXxV14PRhgzXmsP/F6NN7tT3rn2mn+RGDJdGK7Ir5VTyvrbKrb7Z7U831uYIVP6Ws8fLMX3aQpQqtdKgHj5teHRH/FnuBRPMiU7ocKue+roqbegCmyay56Yobkbisr3GLIGiLeOSn0GilTkzBAkr12iabBMAE70= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ya0CUuq61+4YPdYqJNR2eh7arfPuVyn+z/VowzO4s3fwWhoc76r6DYcbnzgKXRy2PZGOSPGkxwBtyQ3CmgB4jSlBypQgtkqYsb0D9Gla8deU3mtpuYpIN8YM4n+2IXL3E9ybCwcgAXbDDtyVOTpt/ZDsfi93L5LpUHxHdO6zepI=; HaWdTDXkA_AqYhPhXCfHk3vgIwgfCrAXccvyBT9llLycYlE784A35LUciJCR U3m5fPTxhl4xilCJFI8sSGJ.2SUx3Zr04s_eWvEV4amvTSxqX3ixLc3wU58S CvZo9Kabuv0OVqBzSlZLM9bDMzIrFn10grH4r2SSz0M7XbdX7QOEyTiyrzQq iZEzGkdwV8eHCwLUJEbZ0.kkVug0LBPCawFMU32Ec2AjSmZATMwSEVOns6cB Bwhrz9xif8xRJyz.0uhlFYT1kUQLN_6ffW.ZeESAMOrewTIZGD7_RV7HFxt3 n5bzLDMxoizJJvWPfmBlYmMTNPPjOM.OVJlauLWvW_P_foezWJ4JPG3eZpHN TCF58j6XH8UBTCadyNYYkPle.1XpU1aTaL.3iUPGpqcdLip5_cziCLFTRXdF 1fkKmFBGrc3iikLTK3TgB Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:32:07 PDT SSd2ZSBpbnN0YWxsZWQgdGhlIHRyaXBvZCA3MDAgaGVhZGxpZ2h0cyAodHItMykgd2l0aCB0d28gcmVsYXlzIHBlciBoZWFkbGlnaHQsIG9uZSBlYWNoIGZvciBoaWdoIGFuZCBsb3cgYmVhbXMuwqAgVGhpcyBpbmNsdWRlcyBhIHJlZCB3aXJlIHBvd2VyIGxpbmUgZnJvbSBzdGFydGVyIHNvbGVub2lkIG9uIGZpcmV3YWxsLsKgIFRvZGF5IEkgdHJpZWQgdGhlIGRpbW1lciBzd2l0Y2ggZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1lIHdpdGggbm8gY2hhbmdlLsKgIEFsbCBJIGhhdmUgaXMgYnJpZ2h0cyBhbmQgdGhlIGxpZ2gBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:32:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per headlight, one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line from starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the first time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out completely when I hit the dimmer. I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? Or is this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to reverse the wires to the headlights? Electrical neophyte dufus here. LOL gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 16:49:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7F2D06ED for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB9B2D06E2 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2oMAfi8E-wUA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=g9HGndJkvR05MmB50voA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:38136] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F5/B6-20885-0031B805; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:47:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:47:28 -0400 From: Randall To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Gary Nafziger Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Kind of hard to say with that description. It is possible to wire the bulbs wrong, but usually in that case you get a dim yellow glow rather than nothing at all. I would start by verifying the voltages at the low beam relays with the low beams enabled. You should find 12v across the relay coil terminals (85 and 86 if you used a modern style relay) (UR to black wires if you kept the original wiring colors). And 12v from the relay output (the wire to the headlight) to ground. -- Randall ---- Gary Nafziger wrote: > I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per headlight, > one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line from > starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the first > time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out completely > when I hit the dimmer. > I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the > red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? Or is > this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to reverse the > wires to the headlights? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 17:19:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B882D06ED for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DBC2D06C6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so5675321ied.14 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0JcAhj3dkSrIGB2InlLFlOybkfPt9584Cy8FpX+4UbU=; b=mLWn+TIfFHVb1CC8dYzmpqVZaoa+RUUw2KH6uwpRjcRi0qOckUHIv6ml3QpwkKIljW 4Ig0oAQodFyMEqeKKC2e5zHqfxIoL9b1YixLs4tNsJgM9UhH445lcKN/mhTvkNVLHDPn JQVWvpunLZnol1r8vJHOc2XK66qsldqahVZ5gmQaUHGtR2FVVu+1+VF7TbYNZqgB3DZS fJzdalstn2OhpFWtvLc23ZC9nZ9hHKQnGXKbjN6su4G0mlrdOffqbUw7CXLRrXMRX+rP q/e7u/YczDfmn1uGUFd86LZMFXF/YZzU/G/ZiDDaNOs8Fa7D9U5nwmQ365teinUJsyUE 1Fyg== Received: by 10.50.168.69 with SMTP id zu5mr3765145igb.23.1351293361241; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <1351279927.94193.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:16:01 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Gary Nafziger Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You may have lost a ground. I experimented with a poor ground and found the low beams could 'find' a ground via the high beam indicator light on the speedo. Do you really have brights but no low beams or are you seeing the indicator light up when the lights are on and assuming that it is the high beams you're seeing? IOW, when I had a bad ground I could get low beams & the indicator light but switching to high beams got me nothing, Geo On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Today I tried the dimmer switch for the first > time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out > completely > when I hit the dimmer... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 20:17:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFAF2D078E for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DE42D0741 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:16:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 113EA1C0000BE for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DA0CBE000086 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:17:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:17:44 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351304265; bh=uwphhJr/XIy0Cvfn/8oDigczVkndtEBngzfaF1rKodg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MbLxLszGmCfrEzY+ijV77Ar0LrMsG9D5EfX6JIbCgxC0iup2jQDrlbVflfOJKltoR trD2HhO5sxkKbqkF0FEMuEJTUlqlCF64TjEjX2Pr1BIpXh/Qvs46rEOI2pLWJUFiid 4nfxwTHRngP87pZoW7AMVMDxNYKp0UwT6QlyZiYI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a508b444826c9 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are on. How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) beam should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the low (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays are wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at the same time instead of alternately. Dave In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: > I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per > headlight, > one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line from > starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the > first > time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out > completely > when I hit the dimmer. > I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the > red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? Or > is > this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to reverse > the > wires to the headlights? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 04:44:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6742D0793 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:44:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DCD2D0789 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:43:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so1983259wgb.20 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:44:30 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=50K5bN0fopWRuO1zklMHX10UGTGld5NutsI6/oxUp+M=; b=p5LpnN0TvKDRk83WJ/woiEhtb9N2M3GKY9/F0igM7y4sRqDHg6pF1COi/xjzEx6cAc ax7MSnH8M6ennnG7poxuCYdmH6SDqgOEFMpV5UGzZJdenBDgXhNPabVAVQ9Am4U6jvwU ff24uCbd4t4Q5P7+ITcRC9WaTzQeJWtA9OgXA0UvM2M8FrPL7nWZfXaUoWKS0b8QtiiW zLHmuEv3XUefakpcZtHULuREtoSxSIJ+TRMXa4u1vLyp1mVbJ5qS6L2rsecMBK0LiTl4 BTaiL5BzGAUoxbYqR9sJQ6VeUR+K6WAFgmlHMOkKnAH1zTV/47J0DR+423yKaMKHyf+G ph+A== Received: by 10.180.107.195 with SMTP id he3mr8289848wib.15.1351334670860; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p4sm2112301wix.0.2012.10.27.03.44.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.29.157.80]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:44:29 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dixie4" To: , References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:46:45 +0100 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Have I missed something here on this thread. My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see where you are going? Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O Wales UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are on. > How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) beam > should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the > low > (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays are > wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at the > same time instead of alternately. > > Dave > > In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >> headlight, >> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >> from >> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >> first >> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >> completely >> when I hit the dimmer. >> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >> Or >> is >> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to reverse >> the >> wires to the headlights? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 04:49:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714062D080D for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9F42D0788 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:48:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so3612912lag.14 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:49:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JHcKvyKz0Bw5zL6Tsb0kNzoJJl59PwieWT1uCNGPHg4=; b=M1prr9U7ui1H18dwzYt9IrJPXxmRQE2pj3ypZS8JYHf0BL6gvG9tkk6xxmSWhGn7s9 DXV6XLyyQm0emimpLcuitaMfAoUsz5DmNguyc8W+rZMcPupiNBjzLu2sy/nU1WSl1wE1 3lfO0lXodh8OuGui9diLNouaaxLjnv/MIh8bjRs1XGyEpOlkfh3YJyWq9lNaHQs4oeGe 5w81lav2lB9aoi8eXwtrEg0lLMcmd7rGJcPnRPrgzBKLCWJJmVYf8XWPuFSrZpmju/g6 tphaaXOky5/tIahL27H24WjijA9cx6PjSbcDn+m+N064SgaVzuitr3XIWBHDZHTa+oUJ frfg== Received: by 10.112.42.233 with SMTP id r9mr9387278lbl.76.1351334973854; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 03:49:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com> <06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:49:33 +0200 From: Don Hiscock To: Dixie4 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The original post refers to main beam and dipped beam, to use UK vernacular. On 10/27/12, Dixie4 wrote: > Have I missed something here on this thread. > > My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? > Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see where > > you are going? > Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. > Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). > > Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O > Wales UK. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >>I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are >> on. >> How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) >> beam >> should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the >> low >> (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays are >> wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at >> the >> same time instead of alternately. >> >> Dave >> >> In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >> nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >>> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >>> headlight, >>> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >>> from >>> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >>> first >>> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >>> completely >>> when I hit the dimmer. >>> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >>> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >>> Or >>> is >>> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to >>> reverse >>> the >>> wires to the headlights? >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 05:28:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952BB2D07C1 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:28:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B202D0787 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:20:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 11:21:49 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.135] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 11:21:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 11:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 64741 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2012 11:21:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351336909; bh=r/Zkb+2Y/jLEO+Zv/tT185Z8HmQDhk0dKC2XG7jpww0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PwvdZCbRTujP5EW1Vu84ivsv1zPkmz2kmweL2tuno4Hyy2+0IpxXGJ1AW31T8BJXuuiSuJI6po6o1dtEJ0t0TsoAsY3xXBooDp+vlAarv54zu/mQ0AzwKKSjTYuJvJb8UqQlRPFI0/O8DSnIWtJw8Okjug5l0N5LNohGjdmBfc4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l8UuWCiNWHaHwUzA+ZVNkeswnI5X4rMtSGBTVOQEWRugbVwKjyUcuExFv+BVv+2DYYqJCjaUpbWwM5ydoog0ZyfdKvoIuX1T9dqAP5gzTD82zUw9Vivvgls4RtBehH61Xske/oSUUVASU1QkR6gltoohqg8NepdtTtT899u1fYw=; BiC744uDvwRNzlqQogzIeJwwUmlI1E8TSIvz1pqsmyJTyUNslReEkxP7UUKD tH7jeb5iiyoiP9wyoILPba0dpJJn53UwAAtHLcscnZEuXWVVH.AHWxEFN1iF CiX6PIwgYy7N2pGhRvYdZ_D8sXfV8Om9d42Gw16fO1.vOn_B.HosW7P5E2Dk 8TJl._40chmcNIg3JpzBUyZ5w42evM3obWphjjLpPFz38vSfKxVvD.Fp.cMN 9JVZ4G9GxTP7mlcwP4fpMR3hCQXhIn8L.f9k3W7cmGEZuPoo3GSCy0neSphG m1ErODRcRX9iPrUHtGnG.6fRghNyv3UvzouaePlNUankZScxDyM_eC5qG02_ RM15D_UJWv_JFXtejN2SNBf33pDOVsaIUK6PlyEMbpo_3zofCWFV_UkHBNiX RmsvBzkEWeYLWTucTzebwg6El4q1Bp5giwFexLQBWCbSXc1jrGDFXzTkT7p_ v38o- Received: from [90.199.100.235] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:21:49 BST SGV5IERvbiwgeW91J3ZlIGRlbmllZCB0aGUgd2hvbGUgVHJpdW1waCBjb21tdW5pdHkgdGhlIG9wcG9ydHVuaXR5IG9mIHlldCBhbm90aGVyIChzaWRlIHNwbGl0dGluZykgJ2pva2UnIGFib3V0IEx1Y2FzLgoKSm9ubWFjCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBEb24gSGlzY29jayA8ZG9uLmhpc2NvY2tAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogRGl4aWU0IDxkaXhpZTQud2FsZXNAdmlyZ2luLm5ldD4gCkNjOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogU2F0dXJkYXksIDI3IE8BMAEBAQE- References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com> <06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:21:49 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Don Hiscock , Dixie4 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Don, you've denied the whole Triumph community the opportunity of yet another (side splitting) 'joke' about Lucas. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Don Hiscock To: Dixie4 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 11:49 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >The original post refers to main beam and dipped beam, to use UK vernacular. > >On 10/27/12, Dixie4 wrote: >> Have I missed something here on this thread. >> >> My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? >> Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see where >> >> you are going? >> Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. >> Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). >> >> Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O >> Wales UK. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >> >> >>>I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are >>> on. >>> How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) >>> beam >>> should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the >>> low >>> (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays are >>> wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at >>> the >>> same time instead of alternately. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >>> nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >>>> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >>>> headlight, >>>> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >>>> from >>>> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >>>> first >>>> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >>>> completely >>>> when I hit the dimmer. >>>> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >>>> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >>>> Or >>>> is >>>> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to >>>> reverse >>>> the >>>> wires to the headlights? >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 06:51:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52EE2D0792 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:51:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581822D0787 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 06:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so3655337lag.14 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:52:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EVj30OTrrT8Z9BmzEwNeyUPolRsRVsih5JEMnTVMvrw=; b=Q/nA4/mBSM42YvmmkEnVVQDZZE+6PvnqKm/wPlZcVlHiCq03D36FFLUXtCukH6x1JM byjZjIf3K3cdoobDwQZj1ymHdY0ZdSFQqhMdkFHhcLakaOIqqg5RzK1/A0OckoWyF7on 33PX8LrlNGjq4Nb+Bn6ET//d5E+Dz1YK0nDGTNlTzAQDOwGHZ2kJE5KFMyetXDVzKCbu NXxSNIhV23nDdhGKVE0wsmkrSZc5nD3ATEo9QpFMwCPS/EHuLUoav0mswG5z9mnH5HPF /8bPwMQvFi5rWZyrW+TZ7PWLZYfq/FfkP5nbcR4E+c6QyYWtozuu9DhJgV1bzfMuIAAH SjSA== Received: by 10.152.122.11 with SMTP id lo11mr23017888lab.3.1351342331735; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:52:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com> <06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> <1351336909.61256.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:52:11 +0200 From: Don Hiscock To: John Macartney Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nah, John -- nuthin' stops this group! I'm in the minority, but I kinda like the near-Victorian simplicity of Lucas electrics. But then, when I really have to get there and back, I take one of my Toyotas... On 10/27/12, John Macartney wrote: > Hey Don, you've denied the whole Triumph community the opportunity of yet > another (side splitting) 'joke' about Lucas. > > Jonmac > ________________________________ > From: Don Hiscock > To: Dixie4 > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 11:49 > Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >>The original post refers to main beam and dipped beam, to use UK >> vernacular. >> >>On 10/27/12, Dixie4 wrote: >>> Have I missed something here on this thread. >>> >>> My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? >>> Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see >>> where >>> >>> you are going? >>> Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. >>> Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). >>> >>> Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O >>> Wales UK. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM >>> Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >>> >>> >>>>I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are >>>> on. >>>> How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) >>>> beam >>>> should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the >>>> low >>>> (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays >>>> are >>>> wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at >>>> the >>>> same time instead of alternately. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >>>> nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >>>>> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >>>>> headlight, >>>>> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >>>>> from >>>>> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >>>>> first >>>>> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >>>>> completely >>>>> when I hit the dimmer. >>>>> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >>>>> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >>>>> Or >>>>> is >>>>> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to >>>>> reverse >>>>> the >>>>> wires to the headlights? >>>> >>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: >>>> 10/26/12 >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com >> >>** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 07:53:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D41E2D07B1 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:53:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0DE2D06D6 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:52:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.214.12.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.214.12]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 95757585C06 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "davewillner" To: "'Triumph List'" Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:55:23 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3 oil filter canister question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just changed the oil and filter in my 3, I have the original Percolator head still in place. I now have a small constant stream of oil leaking out the bottom hole where the bolt goes in when its running, not up at the top where the typical seal problems occur. I've never taken this bolt/washer/spring assembly apart (35 years) and wondering if they typically need a rebuild with fresh seals at some point? Also the long hex bolt has alway had a large 1" cupped metal washer under the hex head on the outside, just wondering if anyone else has that or maybe its just a DPO "enhancement?" All the exploded parts drawings I've seen don't show the washer...Txs Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 08:22:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5288F2D0789 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E542D0741 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:34 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=_gCGeubjYS4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=PTdKhI_a5foA:10 a=Oskf8x8cAAAA:8 a=ZkWctPPKLs8c-Bp3wAQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 04/5C-18765-03EEB805; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:22:40 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'davewillner'" , "'Triumph List'" References: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:22:40 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac20SqCuf51yy/9ITXeVwQehDPcl9wAAtNVQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 oil filter canister question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The oil filter housings are not all the same, the later ones did have a large "washer" to reinforce the end of the canister. It is shown in the illustration in "Practical Hints" although I'm guessing that it was supplied only as part of the canister since it's not listed in the parts catalogs. Yes, the seal has to be replaced from time to time. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 09:39:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690222D07A7 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:39:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81842D0789 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AFB5D38000086; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 81C52E000081; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:40:18 -0400 (EDT) To: dixie4.wales@virgin.net, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351352418; bh=aiF78Rt31DAC9ERhEUQkoRQZ8EmU1GW4Xz2t1doKyGk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qy61a8pC7U05a6zgavXP8CGwUoULUS66x24ZcqzJfbnbYa1frVW1nuNlpGhsx+CNH V8Nr9Tr5nUKV5syxwtFZGLD9KruXYQIV6CdBmo5cS5Xup/LaM03YM2G87nQEwEss8I R0QN+3oJuuIicOUSJfGNewMldBhkTZB+De70wm0k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c508c006214e0 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The headlam dimmer is standard equipment. Some call it the wiring harness. Dave In a message dated 10/27/2012 5:44:31 AM Central Daylight Time, dixie4.wales@virgin.net writes: > Have I missed something here on this thread. > > My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? > Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see > where > you are going? > Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. > Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 09:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36E82D0811 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C962C0D44 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9RFg3Bb011703; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:42:03 -0400 Received: from core-mob005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7921DE000082; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:42:03 -0400 (EDT) To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, don.hiscock@gmail.com, dixie4.wales@virgin.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351352523; bh=3+2Kzcmhn4qfHPm1w7WK/YHVGLFQ+O3mw7XREPmp5eU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T6Wp2krEMgTQt4ZAbd2lficeHnBA8lPztkLkSfD8nBBWTSMQieUeUKX4JIfMYSVGP o2zMgyLUV5sFj3prWJTCp5wArF1gtsF90uJrMhhvECa2aybmcy74kn5qtJLt2SIspL E5fjPhdDA8XSXUUO1FIxqq1LeL155luUgTbqPuDI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389508c00cb6632 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Doesn't stop me. I'm the master of the too late punch line. Dave In a message dated 10/27/2012 6:29:47 AM Central Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > Hey Don, you've denied the whole Triumph community the opportunity of yet > another (side splitting) 'joke' about Lucas. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 12:34:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1942D06FE for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A8D2D0205 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 18:31:27 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.205] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 18:31:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2012 18:31:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351362687; bh=cFEkdvXPM0GhAHwbR8Eq5sIAqoa0AfD+B0nLihhOHkE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=gLkjSffuoeHSTKoS/wUk4LmfL6Ibgf8cRLjFVVW9wOPoQd0Y7tKtuqbXk0fFYUf6xr4nrjzUsm+dlT16Z8WfPcXNK34cCsodQCT+/ZW7kVLDMDRav5Zbxq7PDeqIxkVGXqPn+pX6mbVpqYTdsaL75xoRCCOoZfNkSFMtiArUSdI= zysALnPhGSw3Ahcwv6.N2k3E3hV4rIsVcg_dFU2oqS.XY5UaJVunx2ine6Zx NHpfPQNK6SiITrifLzxguitEhhun8PuxNfGCkeU1D5gpuJyhQaLCe6Oq7BPa vZaHVm7NDJs1T6k2Nh5b_ydJL2Kkhhpy6iy_neK7kkwMBHycMRcQnh0E6Y6e 2tVB3Fy8xdw1fklENdrqXRcSpoXLNhrVgtOCEduNwxKw04xPiYRCNSaVsNrJ X1z94XbbSJidY7gKMDZN.tUnmaEhHfcptxB4fYutnvNpahDfCayIZTeVDCig jliFJIBPvS6BLoG77oErY1qgZ4s2aZNs_24DFOwYdw_PDCfhPoPwevhhAz.. _73LMcN4aa2jGWLoBGwHkaTLt8QSHaw6yHIm.GCnHUzRkDUOlHZgdERAuEuj Y3icYktLaN3rL4n_gzKc2tqBuU9KHeGldvDn3TcvIptP0TdCAOu9f2S.Drhy 83gCalnRESMWsskyE_z0Hh_IC0T.lQBd2cXVt54.pqXLEdglpghHntaisAMT B4UcUJMFLHW8fIigHBuEQiLEF7A-- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2012 11:31:27 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'davewillner'" , "'Triumph List'" References: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:31:18 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac20Sqtp4UD2EoN0TC2pSHdzWd2F9AAJUvqQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 oil filter canister question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, There is a seal for the end of the canister, yours may have finally cracked. Yes, there is a large washer behind the hex head. Sending a picture off-line. Or, are you sure the oil is not running down the bottom of the can from the o-ring at the head. I have mis-aligned this once/twice before. It can only be those to area, cheap fix. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davewillner Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:55 AM To: 'Triumph List' Subject: [TR] TR3 oil filter canister question I just changed the oil and filter in my 3, I have the original Percolator head still in place. I now have a small constant stream of oil leaking out the bottom hole where the bolt goes in when its running, not up at the top where the typical seal problems occur. I've never taken this bolt/washer/spring assembly apart (35 years) and wondering if they typically need a rebuild with fresh seals at some point? Also the long hex bolt has alway had a large 1" cupped metal washer under the hex head on the outside, just wondering if anyone else has that or maybe its just a DPO "enhancement?" All the exploded parts drawings I've seen don't show the washer...Txs Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 14:23:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20742D06C0 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD50D2D0530 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:22:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so2136291wgb.20 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:23:48 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=Rjfa+9FcRiXNLksWUnJIhEjUvXj6kJJeQT95Pacg9A8=; b=iCW2tuQZ/OnjG8XEt31TNlUfRjjYg1ILwUbNwcG6zuutGwPL+pua/eRzgo3aC575R8 xsVndozrQHx9579j0XdT50bysyzPfcP1OKkl7S++VYdGMmdNG7b4LKW/Zw4QcUxxa10b 3uSixpsceQAB9fCWMZSF80eUxXcZEJb94xkVZpvlYEIIDx0/J+IT8ABRu9pJWGNurWMK csQGNpSTwyo6GuHkXkfLnOLudIXrMwDIViRDVO/xLPoB1pmISzcA9/lMmBNJ+i2rKQGQ kviZdv1/f2lehsrTgS1rTHMzbPZA2gzRzccDcYRnk00xJrZtpi00MESEfWwYhW8QkqsF 27ig== Received: by 10.180.90.78 with SMTP id bu14mr9508672wib.21.1351369428526; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id az2sm3512978wib.10.2012.10.27.13.23.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.29.157.80]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:23:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dixie4" To: "Don Hiscock" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:26:02 +0100 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well they say you learn something new everyday. After being on this predominantly North American Triumph list for over ten years I thought I had heard all the different terms for various car items. For instance trunks, hoods, rockers and many more which are so alien to the Brits. I have now added dimmer switch to my vocabulary. Thanks to all who replied enlightening me. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Dixie4" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > The original post refers to main beam and dipped beam, to use UK > vernacular. > > On 10/27/12, Dixie4 wrote: >> Have I missed something here on this thread. >> >> My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? >> Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see >> where >> >> you are going? >> Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. >> Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). >> >> Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O >> Wales UK. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >> >> >>>I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are >>> on. >>> How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) >>> beam >>> should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the >>> low >>> (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays >>> are >>> wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at >>> the >>> same time instead of alternately. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >>> nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >>>> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >>>> headlight, >>>> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >>>> from >>>> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >>>> first >>>> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >>>> completely >>>> when I hit the dimmer. >>>> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >>>> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >>>> Or >>>> is >>>> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to >>>> reverse >>>> the >>>> wires to the headlights? >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: >>> 10/26/12 >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 16:07:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4A02D06B9 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498112D0623 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.180]) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id GMzQ1k0043tXbQu01MzRvo; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:59:26 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Dixie4'" , "'Don Hiscock'" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:59:35 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHNor6+gJNRCrjXpkGJxl8eVO5tiAIHtwhJAUPIB+QB8sXi3pej5IeA Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? Andrew Uprichard 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dixie4 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:26 PM To: Don Hiscock Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Well they say you learn something new everyday. After being on this predominantly North American Triumph list for over ten years I thought I had heard all the different terms for various car items. For instance trunks, hoods, rockers and many more which are so alien to the Brits. I have now added dimmer switch to my vocabulary. Thanks to all who replied enlightening me. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Dixie4" Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > The original post refers to main beam and dipped beam, to use UK > vernacular. > > On 10/27/12, Dixie4 wrote: >> Have I missed something here on this thread. >> >> My question is why would someone want to fit a headlamp dimmer? >> Is it not the purpose of headlamps to be as bright as possible to see >> where >> >> you are going? >> Or is it some local regulation in towns maybe. >> Someone enlighten me or am I just being dim (excuse the double pun). >> >> Adrian TR4A CT 64306 O >> Wales UK. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:17 AM >> Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >> >> >>>I wouldn't be surprised if you are running both filaments when they are >>> on. >>> How are the relay coils wired up? The relay coil for the high (main) >>> beam >>> should be powered off of the Blue/White wire and the relay coil for the >>> low >>> (dip)beam should be powered off of the Blue/Red wire. If both relays >>> are >>> wired to the same blue/something wire then they are both energizing at >>> the >>> same time instead of alternately. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> In a message dated 10/26/2012 2:32:15 PM Central Daylight Time, >>> nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: >>>> I've installed the tripod 700 headlights (tr-3) with two relays per >>>> headlight, >>>> one each for high and low beams. This includes a red wire power line >>>> from >>>> starter solenoid on firewall. Today I tried the dimmer switch for the >>>> first >>>> time with no change. All I have is brights and the lights go out >>>> completely >>>> when I hit the dimmer. >>>> I'm checking into the switch but also wonder about the >>>> red power wire and whether that needs to go through the dimmer switch? >>>> Or >>>> is >>>> this comparable to the front turn signal lights in that I need to >>>> reverse >>>> the >>>> wires to the headlights? >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: >>> 10/26/12 >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5855 - Release Date: 10/26/12 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 16:41:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68522D07C4 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0062D0741 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:09 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2oMAfi8E-wUA:10 a=I_gj9XtoPGDT6B4g-rAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B3/75-18765-7436C805; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:42:15 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> <014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 15:42:16 -0700 Thread-Index: AQHNor6+gJNRCrjXpkGJxl8eVO5tiAIHtwhJAUPIB+QB8sXi3pej5IeAgAAMQPA= Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can > you remind me > what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, > Scotland) life ? Dipper switch, I believe. At least that is what is in the owner's manual. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 17:41:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA05A2D079F for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EAD2D06A1 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.106.115]) by p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id GPhc1k0052VQihA01PhdoZ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:41:41 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Randall'" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> <014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> <049f01cdb494$50f73470$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:41:47 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHNor6+gJNRCrjXpkGJxl8eVO5tiAIHtwhJAUPIB+QB8sXi3gKaXUaXA3jVcKaXc2ecAA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ah yes, the dip switch. Not to be confused with the American term for a previous dumb owner - the dipstick. Thank you, Randall (and others) - I really had forgotten. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:42 PM To: 'Andrew Uprichard' Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] headlights dimmer > OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind > me what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, > Scotland) life ? Dipper switch, I believe. At least that is what is in the owner's manual. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 17:46:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A102D06E6 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp005.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout005.mac.com [17.158.232.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA482D06B0 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.248.213.111] (250.sub-174-230-3.myvzw.com [174.230.3.250]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp005.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MCK00IDYSQXNQA0@nk11p03mm-asmtp005.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:47:24 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-27_07:2012-10-26,2012-10-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210270315 References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com> <06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> <014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> <049f01cdb494$50f73470$0601a8c0@randall> <014d01cdb49c$a3efec00$ebcfc400$@uprichard.net> From: Anthony Cascio Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:47:21 -0500 To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Randall Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wow you guys are really tough on previous owners!! I hope I never become one of them, just the guy who buys a car from the dipstick...... Tony Cascio en route to VTR Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Ah yes, the dip switch. Not to be confused with the American term for a > previous dumb owner - the dipstick. Thank you, Randall (and others) - I > really had forgotten. > > Andrew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:42 PM > To: 'Andrew Uprichard' > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [TR] headlights dimmer > >> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind >> me what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, >> Scotland) life ? > > Dipper switch, I believe. At least that is what is in the owner's manual. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/allegrorover@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 27 18:41:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB0D2D07D3 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D222D07BC for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GP8W1k0051afHeLA3Qezid; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 00:38:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.8] ([76.127.105.57]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GQex1k00S1EKKmL8dQeyea; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 00:38:58 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:38:57 -0700 References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC> <014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> To: "Andrew Uprichard" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dipper ??? On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" wrote: > OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me > what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? > > Andrew Uprichard > 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 06:23:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8432D0687 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:23:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C022D04BA for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ED8A238000052 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BDE1BE000082 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:18:34 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351426714; bh=9mw3DviEBfl/7fsqPB0Dn3dsf7DN8IWrE5sSx6qWXA4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CM0yQRgOf6VBfABbw+0Hkp7MWWbZlZN16r8n6wxpQPz6mHxJvDdWLM+I8mFSVi5MP fpjIjDEY5BnEExi7U7FtF5RDkG8nPfaBWDU1lJgBKq+KatWJB4Mbwcmwu6I85robkQ R8yEuioSIJzecDI1uiOl8iWwQB0VDK33Es7qUHPs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca508d229a1432 Subject: Re: [TR] Satinless Steel Brake Hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I installed Stainless hoses back in '96 and I had no such issues. The length was just fine. I think you may have revceived the wrong parts. If you lay the two parts ont on a bench is there an appearent difference in length? Dave In a message dated 10/27/2012 5:22:40 PM Central Daylight Time, trdoctor@aol.com writes: > Good day to all, > I recently have had problems with my brake system on my '72 TR6. The car > would stop just fine but, when waiting at a light, the pedal would go to > the > floor. Without any external leaks, in my experience, that lead to a > replacement of the brake master. I procured one from Apple Hydraulics > (without the reservoir (sp)), cleaned the existing reservoir with brake > cleaner safe for plastics, and installed it after bench bleeding without > any > problems. At the same time I was going to change the flexible brake lines > out > with braided stainless hoses. I changed these lines in ~'95 when I got > the > car so I figured I'd change them and it would be a nice upgrade. Long > story > short, they don't fit. I tried to change the LF and the threaded portion > of > the hose that attaches to the ridged line at the caliper won't reach. > Anyone > else had this problem? I really don't like to try to bend old line > especially > since the rubber ones fit just fine. I ended up taking a real good look > at > the rubber hoses and there were on cracks and they were still flexible so > I > put it back together and am ready to bleed the system. > TIA, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 06:42:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D99E2D07D3 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F122D0699 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 06:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 19956380000BD; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-msa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.65]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E924EE000085; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:43:01 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from 74.95.223.145 by webmail-d144.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:43:01 -0400 From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:43:01 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351428182; bh=57ei3Fi488Tw/qWgA8ZxCQsgMFKcphNyNMe8Ade1FCE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RDIJLn98Ilprchvrtd0VgXO4YPcl93QGUi9QQbbA2FwYq0Z2iWPXb44hXriuZMsC9 hyw+zF3OmBXUK8P05egwFh9ngQjGqhi5kThYjFbYyJYeicOxSYo8UeXwD5BX9eZHcH hjyna/cIM+Ztr0Z0b8Kud1L19vfmzhSd4qo0IZcw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c508d28554d05 Cc: keith@omjcsignal.com Subject: [TR] VTR CONVENTION-NEW REPAIR PANELS AND SEAT CONVERSION KITS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you are at VTR and would like to see new front fender repair panels for TR4 and TR6 and the Miata seat conversion adapters, we will be at the Convention on Sunday and Monday. Look for the AMBRO-TRIUMPH. Just hanging out......see more of our stuff donated to Texas Triumphs SILENT AUCTION. One will be TR6 carb heat shield as featured on SPEED CHANNEL's "HARD PARTS" Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 12:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573E02D07BA for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1472D041C for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:52:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.66]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 986E01C000094 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C5478E0000A9; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:53:17 -0500 To: Dave1massey@cs.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351450398; bh=H9rDK+B6FY3BE4rGsIEhKYeNykczEBhDV8RA95XsBcA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=OSqJaFLMopCBCFzbPQaN5j3q61e6ZTYwfcmtQTgAGeGvlEHfP7WqBpLwSAzeja9+e VfqkH1gF+bndjnG7XIa8ktcw5IIZLfgKuUcYNzPRLhauJNlmxmU5ZdHYfj7ec9iQO+ YtlawjQVgYGA/gbK3NU5lUH4AXSmx1Nb7dwcNOLU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2942508d7f1d1f60 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Satinless Steel Brake Hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net They are ~ the same length except for the threaded portion that attaches to the rigid steel line to the caliper. Sam ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 17:08:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044832D07E0 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:08:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541D62D07C8 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EA5971C00008B for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A972FE000082; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:09:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:09:36 -0400 (EDT) To: trdoctor@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351465776; bh=FbJYGOjcw5WOd33SEzP6C1i7QQTrBEem2s3yPCVXu8w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u8uILHbRDLc0AbqpJAGnkE5G1g40ACmuW93x1MvLRHBLZvrofV0X64PeLf6CoJ2Sd of+om3Qs93qnyCTzd5UzSjUhNfkyFaGxIKU/JkxRwnnJKoo4W4Xg7n8Rfy3KHZ7ElP OG5FhmBbzSQucsaFUXqVkreuD/MUwzyXSSzZulRI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9508dbb304c11 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Satinless Steel Brake Hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hmm, will it fit the other way 'round? In a message dated 10/28/2012 1:53:18 PM Central Daylight Time, trdoctor@aol.com writes: > They are ~ the same length except for the threaded portion that attaches > to the rigid steel line to the caliper. > Sam > had="" no="" such="" issue="" the=""> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 20:45:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0342D07B3 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:45:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540A82D02F0 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id NMX28034; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:46:34 -0500 From: "Michael Marr" To: "William Pugh" , "Andrew Uprichard" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC><014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:46:40 -0500 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dipswitch. -------------------------------------------------- From: "William Pugh" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM To: "Andrew Uprichard" Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > Dipper ??? > > > On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" > wrote: > >> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >> >> > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 09:45:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96F22D0847 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC52D082E for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 15:45:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.168] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 15:45:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 15:45:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 89456 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Oct 2012 15:45:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351525544; bh=rLs8yFuVohp2Fp/8r14OCs8y37iR6kROEibqmxxqo4c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kE7KXt6Fkh+wkE8W31ZbB19V4yUYT/vyz2JyrbqAS28G3vdlxrc7xUsNf1bp4XadGAff6Rs1b0M+egtKf2CN5lqdX/ljwjtUOgmOKVGEjJGAQELttgUePss9IsGPNvcOc0t4grMGzPLM855AEHFBnDfwKJQHE50DUpFFvQ+d7ok= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZrgNvgOn9zrPLEShQYJEFMLfPq4ZvZI0gtAbiPLKZW87LxC64lZlP8JOKfCZBWObujy6hN5IE6AIYcWwfL7MouDRIc2OtcAC6XTeZVRurt8l2sIdhFA8uIpVffnRQKCqc7ykiPYS4RrziANgafHaLZ9pflPtTiy8LyhWcmw355Q=; 25Eka0YdNwmiRTGaiCXIYmvYp.jzGbLmAK7qHqTUcLt4_W9xzdSmkCHspSEV GEd8m2p0.N_FTZdKoWg4UfwUFLZ26_DLh233hJKDKG0wKSimJeoqOLg7_GVq tD7EXJwu9PQzcn6TqzIj3p4ZXYTJQSNPpUItq4nbmP4qjPVT5nGPN8E4xb4I FwMQFGWmiTifloDAVhFmZf50zolp_Nykm9GA1D.2oU7zWM2V6TXRQmaeGZTB 8Chel8xcT.4RHt7twcUinpDjv9j19yMgCUWq43nbNX689Ze..yeVXMt87GRX S0OyJ6BXMRTzegnNr.4jaeNTQ9jUJOzT_ESg66Uz56kiiiNVUvd14WXiCTTN 7jcr7p8clFxRBzUrmfx0epWanYZx94YEHn_91QNwfUx4BME_lK6WfQaX3VTY 9H_h6IdH51xGY453oG6cll7e.e0a2Y70h3HGNfKC3i49iA9b8yO0OSd.lXMf YsR5O2ujcAn3VLAw_h5LcfUMWMg9lp1Fsm5HAI8F0kRzE Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:45:44 PDT SSBoYXZlIGEgZnJpZW5kIGJ5IHRoYXQgbmFtZSAhISEKRG8geW91IGtub3cgaGltPwpGcmFuawoKCkZyb206IE1pY2hhZWwgTWFyciA8bW1hcnJAbm90d2lyZXMuY29tPgpUbzogV2lsbGlhbSBQdWdoIDxhbmFiaWwwMDdAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ.OyBBbmRyZXcgVXByaWNoYXJkIDxhdXByaWNoYXJkQHVwcmljaGFyZC5uZXQ.IApDYzogdHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgT2N0b2JlciAyOCwgMjAxMiA3OjQ2IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbVFJdIGhlYWRsaWdodHMgZGltbWVyCgoBMAEBAQE- References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC><014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:45:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Michael Marr , William Pugh , Andrew Uprichard Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a friend by that name !!! Do you know him? Frank From: Michael Marr To: William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Dipswitch. -------------------------------------------------- From: "William Pugh" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM To: "Andrew Uprichard" Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > Dipper ??? > > > On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" > wrote: > >> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >> >> > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 10:18:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4F92D084A for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:18:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3832D039B for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:17:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id NAV47040; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:18:40 -0500 From: "Michael Marr" To: "Frank Fisher" , "William Pugh" , "Andrew Uprichard" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC><014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> <1351525544.87390.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:18:46 -0500 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You know my son-in-law? Oh, wait a minute, he is dips**t, not dipswitch... Mike From: Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:45 AM To: Michael Marr ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer I have a friend by that name !!! Do you know him? Frank From: Michael Marr To: William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Dipswitch. -------------------------------------------------- From: "William Pugh" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM To: "Andrew Uprichard" Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > Dipper ??? > > > On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" > wrote: > >> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >> >> > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 10:30:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12572D080D for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:30:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDB52D03DA for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:29:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 16:30:35 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.244] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 16:30:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Oct 2012 16:30:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22817 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Oct 2012 16:30:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351528234; bh=EcCIZC2SQE335kdPczydE/rMnNTdvSwD3e5LM1unKo8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NEduxij6Z+IDFeD3DVqB8IJUGuHn621as7UY4XPi0FQwjGU9QbmX1C4kau33BdZYeGitiEWb9lxeVHUT9ZseOE+zef2hhqRuOKDFp3Q6mnL+sQwTaXDYCp/TxgXq6BCXqjBULnBDePh2CLPngSAbWVP8P/9YPFY4XAMSFPaALEw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c/ADTNrJ4D2nTmogn/Up+24G3JRGuzkP62buVO7dbAPbZtWiQcQn0GQ7x8kv8VF220dz4poKKvk28llZ0GaV+QGlBnbABofCapTFhQbzTOIQo7J5GMS+ZYvh6n+0aDd1CcFTIwD0ux9AP+swVZLKFKwGwawWbEEQTd4QSM7lzgU=; JJOgMCGQZgHJ0Lmm37UvhMKG_NXx999Qu6iRg0Fhm02HERY7IHlFNhFsk.3j UqYT366zmU4UPi2ANcu3Vg36.mMywj31zL.3E8y7Q3ZieXl9LM4oKeeX9fhf .Jtx9RA_RL1icdJnmcT14iJ0StN3eAaMoJIi0hN3Q7fdFJMD9GGqWUgTpJcM u.FrRMnTulSfvqe5jHqv1Oq74hmyHyLQwvGsPkEpdN9yyDH8ufkIlo50AHPY .heUhrCQivesv0KXEo3INGAK9zR2KoM2IOlv5AB5ELbMtMPCl.mlbbcEI.X7 5SfxKmY1rOLLtfG05r49hmzSUyI_7Tvmdn1oOiR2IfpEBFz2c8tq3bDdfagr urKJxKaLrhJc7RxwRZQxGbF7X0YBYSjAznR3D0EkKmHnv6r6BCFlS.exQ9t1 zRpVYYapO.wJLQ.XFTfj6OMvO9pPWPw-- Received: from [90.199.100.235] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:30:34 GMT SWYgd2UncmUgaW50byBCcml0IEJyaXQgdmVybmFjdWxhciwgZGVwcmVjYXRpbmcgdGVybWlub2xvZ3kgZm9yIHBlb3BsZSBjb3VsZCBlbXBsb3kgdGVybXMgc3VjaCBhcyAiZGlwc3RpY2siIG9yIGJlaW5nICJhIDk5IGNhcmF0IHBsb25rZXIiCgpKb25tYWMKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IE1pY2hhZWwgTWFyciA8bW1hcnJAbm90d2lyZXMuY29tPgpUbzogRnJhbmsgRmlzaGVyIDx5ZWxsb3d0cjNAeWFob28uY29tPjsgV2lsbGlhbSBQdWdoIDxhbmFiaWwwMDdAY29tY2EBMAEBAQE- References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC><014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> <1351525544.87390.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <815023AAE59C4FEFADA0501677DA5630@PhiSchLSpare101> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:30:34 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Michael Marr , Frank Fisher , William Pugh , Andrew Uprichard Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If we're into Brit Brit vernacular, deprecating terminology for people could employ terms such as "dipstick" or being "a 99 carat plonker" Jonmac ________________________________ From: Michael Marr To: Frank Fisher ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 16:18 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >You know my son-in-law? Oh, wait a minute, he is dips**t, not dipswitch... > >Mike > > >From: Frank Fisher >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:45 AM >To: Michael Marr ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard >Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >I have a friend by that name !!! >Do you know him? >Frank > > > >From: Michael Marr >To: William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard > >Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:46 PM >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >Dipswitch. > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "William Pugh" >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM >To: "Andrew Uprichard" >Cc: >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > >> Dipper ??? >> >> >> On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" >> wrote: >> >>> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >>> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >>> >>> Andrew Uprichard >>> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >>> >>> >> >> >> "Life is too short to drive boring cars" >> >> Bill Pugh >> 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; >> TS16765L >> Wallace, CA >> anabil007@comcast.net >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 10:34:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCDD2D08F7 for ; 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Frank Fisher ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer If we're into Brit Brit vernacular, deprecating terminology for people could employ terms such as "dipstick" or being "a 99 carat plonker" JonmacFrom: Michael Marr To: Frank Fisher ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 16:18 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer >You know my son-in-law? Oh, wait a minute, he is dips**t, not dipswitch... > >Mike > > >From: Frank Fisher >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:45 AM >To: Michael Marr ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard >Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >I have a friend by that name !!! >Do you know him? >Frank > > > >From: Michael Marr >To: William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard > >Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:46 PM >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > > >Dipswitch. > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: "William Pugh" >Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM >To: "Andrew Uprichard" >Cc: >Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > >> Dipper ??? >> >> >> On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" >> wrote: >> >>> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >>> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >>> >>> Andrew Uprichard >>> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >>> >>> >> >> >> "Life is too short to drive boring cars" >> >> Bill Pugh >> 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; >> TS16765L >> Wallace, CA >> anabil007@comcast.net >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 11:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7972D0855 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:14:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9C72D01B6 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:09:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id NBN10459; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:10:59 -0500 From: "Michael Marr" To: "Frank Fisher" , "John Macartney" , "William Pugh" , "Andrew Uprichard" References: <29202.2e783342.3dbc9e48@cs.com><06B3DC3A98144F86B29019838E1DB5D1@AdrianPC><014401cdb48e$5b536480$11fa2d80$@uprichard.net> <1351525544.87390.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <815023AAE59C4FEFADA0501677DA5630@PhiSchLSpare101> <1351528234.16299.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <1351528518.47942.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:11:04 -0500 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All my American-born kids are familiar with the term "wanker" also. Mike From: Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:35 AM To: John Macartney ; Michael Marr ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer for some reason im getting the giggles when the british TV shows im getting have some one proclaim "tosser" old but not used a lot here in the US From: John Macartney To: Michael Marr ; Frank Fisher ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer If we're into Brit Brit vernacular, deprecating terminology for people could employ terms such as "dipstick" or being "a 99 carat plonker" Jonmac From: Michael Marr To: Frank Fisher ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 16:18 Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer You know my son-in-law? Oh, wait a minute, he is dips**t, not dipswitch... Mike From: Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:45 AM To: Michael Marr ; William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer I have a friend by that name !!! Do you know him? Frank From: Michael Marr To: William Pugh ; Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer Dipswitch. -------------------------------------------------- From: "William Pugh" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:38 PM To: "Andrew Uprichard" Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer > Dipper ??? > > > On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:59 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" > wrote: > >> OK, so we had boots, bonnets, outer sills and more, but can you remind me >> what I called the dimmer switch in my previous (Ireland, Scotland) life ? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> 29 years in the UK, 25 in the USA >> >> > > > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; > TS16765L > Wallace, CA > anabil007@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 13:02:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A3A2D0800 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5DC2D04CC for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121029190258.GQPC24333.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:02:58 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml106 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id H72y1k0094hdPEs0172yl1; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:02:58 -0400 a=0eDGbyX6UbObRjERgf9vlg==:17 a=ipWYZkhKxMUA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=foZWFPxC2A4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=fV3qiAlgm84A:10 a=XFmrohW2AAAA:8 a=sTuycXtGqPs32iYwj0IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=FBkUoc7KzQsA:10 a=1IY7wJxD-RAA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=0eDGbyX6UbObRjERgf9vlg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 72.223.114.104 by webmail.west.cox.net; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:02:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:02:58 -0700 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] List grill badges (redux) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some of you will recall that in 2006, I had some grill badges produced with the Triumphs globe and lettering surrounding indicating the Triumphs Email List. I have had a subscriber ask about getting one but was forced to say that they were no longer available. I asked the manufacturer if he still has the tooling and he does. So if we can get at least 25 people who would like to order one or more, I can have them produced again at a cost of $35.00 each. Some people had issues with the studs on the back becoming detached. I asked the manufacturer if we could come up with a better method of attaching them and he said that by drilling the area out, it will provide with greater surface area so that more solder can be applied, thus reducing the possibility that they will come off. So, anybody interested in receiving one or more, please contact me by personal email and I will add your name to the list. If you want to see what they will look like, go to http://spitlist.info/centercaps.html and scroll all the way to the bottom. The gray area will be chrome on the grill badges. Cheers, Joe Curry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 12:52:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797892D03C0 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:52:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0C12D038D for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:41:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2012 18:42:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.193] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2012 18:42:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Oct 2012 18:42:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 42907 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2012 18:42:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351622575; bh=HyFgM2YPAErSZgydY6J35d4Uttv7Wsd142JDzyLEKw8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gK65SdpkS7oJf+EsUK0Z341uPuWsQS/kCkd2YGgJ9kqacMsKsJgv8u2riIhzhmFA/QbLM86tn1RNBDPKil9z0yeMPRC87Na07CAbBrwtTHbm2JrThBobFrg+peG6sERPgXeyhXGTUqAhMlrMahW5BWIw+jseVTkhpQ+Z5dC2NAE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fDFwe9THCDtXDZ/4X15ZuLUf0TnWCrPb28LNLz/lGj6X1nQRfu8u6fP8t4JsLrTyvNr6DfUv1y2qfX0Uj8aTrQX2UPfqBwqNceKEE8exnvZcYmMyPT8DcMvJCC6rgi2XVKjTwOwtZOGnQZsWSYyxSQGmfM1mg02wx6mgExHPdvI=; lL63n5PmE0Q6D3Kgdkt47DTWmlkJQfqeFY71e6u7l_CEgTDdn5kVEGcwYSAM WJU6ZEr.tf1Umzn0YadIq2JGPhnEj5az9Ed6z7VF2kK7vQw6.O_pEjz0IX4W FH2Nj2I.LXmeKms8TXWqYgJxMSYg6Iqrw_iDldBs5TOCiOO.AwismP7yqesS In_26Cb_6NZucHRysYn33aiyEKrgsVwKaDYm3.ErIaiK3zthBD6AGDwNT8MK .dXC248fXav1Cem9P_yWV81qg22a2.Q_8uYKnR3psby68XwsZcAIS0i7Cacs S4yxgHm2YKSTCQdFjhyUXKtaXjn_aPqzbiPGtpQ0989.yU4QF64xQDS6mQbg 8Yq_2LplIFiX.EkPG3mYEdkn9DzNhAd0qy1aSL8s7Z9MYtVnJYTq6j9rI9Vl r0HdfE0QBU61vj9avHat8 Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:42:55 PDT ImRpbW1lciIgaXMgc3RhcnRpbmcgdG8gdGFrZSBvbiBhIGxpZmUgb2YgaXRzIG93biwgc29tZXdoYXQgbGlrZSB0aGUgZmx1aWZmIHRocmVhZCEgTE9MwqAgSSd2ZSBzb2x2ZWQgdGhlIGRpbW1lciBwcm9ibGVtIGJ1dCBub3QgYmVmb3JlIHRha2luZyBhcGFydCB0aGUgaGVhZGxpZ2h0cywgcmVhZGluZyB1cCBvbiByZWxheXMgYW5kIGdlbmVyYWxseSBkb2luZyBldmVyeXRoaW5nIGJ1dCB0aGUgbW9zdCBzaW1wbGUgdGVzdCBJIHNob3VsZCBoYXZlIGRvbmUgYXQgdGhlIHZlcnkgYmVnaW5uaW5nLsKgIChhY3QBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] headlights dimmer dipsh-- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "dimmer" is starting to take on a life of its own, somewhat like the fluiff thread! LOL I've solved the dimmer problem but not before taking apart the headlights, reading up on relays and generally doing everything but the most simple test I should have done at the very beginning. (acting like a dipsh--) LOL Problem solved at the last place I looked...........dipswitch simply wired wrong. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 13:38:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936722D0486 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CDD2D03AE for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=C1XAJifVtGkA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=gXqVf4G-5RY65Ah7q3QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:37789] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 91/1E-20885-D5B20905; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:32:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:32:45 -0400 From: Randall To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] headlights dimmer dipsh-- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Gary Nafziger wrote: > Problem solved at the last place I looked... That's always the way it works. After all, why would you keep looking after you found it ??? Randall PS, Congratulations ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 16:44:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8BE2D0504 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730F02D0484 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=mq46IgA1TqMA:10 a=jSSJdUNmAAAA:20 a=CSk5wEzCAAAA:20 a=TUvhCYr1pB8LsJPpfNIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=F2KLFr8Jd5sA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:41957] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 75/A8-21565-B6750905; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:40:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:40:43 -0400 From: Randall To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] Factory visit 1957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This interesting article was originally published in the May 1957 issue of Motor Sport, and briefly outlines a visit to the MG, Standard, and Austin factories. If I am not mistaken, the first photo (unfortunately black and white and somewhat grainy) shows a TR3 wearing the almost-mythical "Grand Touring" conversion, with permanently attached side curtains and outside door handles. http://goo.gl/r7HCK My thanks to 'Andy' (not Andy Mace) on the BCF Austin-Healey forum for posting it. - Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 21:38:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5A62D082A for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:38:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5942D0673 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:49:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9V2oUAj024191; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:50:30 -0400 Received: from core-mha002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mha002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.130]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B185AE000088; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:50:30 -0400 (EDT) References: <20121030224043.3ZRUG.127607.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 68.237.142.175 by webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.2) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:50:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:50:30 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351651830; bh=lMDhCqxCl8L/ai52L6SBjHQf68i1HDszxx/Po15+T4M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wuJm39ZelkfMGee4CAEWFD9t/sUkjfS54wd/5HeHKDwR5zCkoliFaBaA4JiTFxYBs 8oHrKWsq289nvFpjIWvyk/GWZOG6xWZwlwIS+fZglHSpbI1e3UTyg/UQtghp44N303 V+40S37T5iYNvL3uitmiVSN7jmgoGhI3uh0OLN8s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908509091f65c0b Subject: Re: [TR] Factory visit 1957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't have my books handy, but ISTR that SHP520 was a "Works" car (either a press or a factory competition car, or maybe both)? --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall This interesting article was originally published in the May 1957 issue of Motor Sport, and briefly outlines a visit to the MG, Standard, and Austin factories. If I am not mistaken, the first photo (unfortunately black and white and somewhat grainy) shows a TR3 wearing the almost-mythical "Grand Touring" conversion, with permanently attached side curtains and outside door handles. http://goo.gl/r7HCK My thanks to 'Andy' (not Andy Mace) on the BCF Austin-Healey forum for posting it. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 31 03:37:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881402D0854 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 03:37:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400F2D0822 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:38:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2012 08:39:35 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.122] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2012 08:39:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2012 08:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 53413 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2012 08:39:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351672773; bh=Ht+nZtaoY379tebpbGpAPq2wFnik3CrJop4tRMZt8Jg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rKkjMyP2wQbHxLOd5uBKbd+Jgkq2gZaZzpn+evFRGzbpL6DjrhfSam4wlgPYR82RgXcNhVI/ifFoP0RRN6DFVc/mx+v/9F5To+lGt0UCAKYds7A9nSUejQaIq6ccfmphcVH/TmLEGtwH5e/+WmdOVVJ7oDn0sGkVqvfm1iredfQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ks8qOrgOuUwZNdxd8QPQiybAtU111LILNa2Z3BjHsWXbTQ8OTxLyd8+mcOMV81sFmwHiksyL8RV9Yit/T3cbw1pRf82sXQTLjEYpqFvl9xlkbv0niagkt33/ctyJ7L3qJ0BWglR7n+7lJjbstx++32s7yCETxX99fLdUQBSSBSM=; PTXdKzUdkmPBcfy2ugG2jIjAtC1lvjReogUKIlxlxvHbUgvpemSTpYyxaH6a DIQhipwTWQZfZE..fsabQmFs3wXSjo61owZrZVvIqAF_dQVkWetlONWUqLys WejQ6.4Wv8Sa2J7rcgrdFdabRQdQ9dO3kzsGqhTr71Gflbqa9JmKU9u8qA2m g50bszE_gFwjQ6_YazDQvLYfrQKsNFHsuTkdVTea_0hPTzpva_8Gocm0Ambb 0YXrug2FACrzt1GEkL07HpA7lt.syx9AgIWpbMBiuxUYpfXAA6nVPY8l9L4m vVrCN_rvDLOjI33tF_e7cJm89mbZnEJZ3TEFhcPq33xNs6ja5kct40mgSjyR XV.l0RmPcbXLFZ6N8EKdHjGu.l0WztyYBrKl.Db1mRCPmRnrPrref54kiN6O dLMBliGTTUL00ETPKL1Abc8hLFz_FUD0wHxDWA3PknwuDPqRpaLyZWuAmyz9 K3WQ2Ff8TVU_4udLBPupqQK6pghzjRRglxdXybxggfeQqcRWiiQ.JYRw7RK2 D.LEeptipOYaDGW5jiHLHFQNGn_6ufIzM9jfKGKPjMMTpLg-- Received: from [90.199.100.235] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:39:33 GMT QW5keSwgSSdkIHNwZWN1bGF0ZSBpdCB3YXMgZHViYmVkwqBhICdjb21wZXRpdGlvbicgY2FyIGZyb20gdGhlIG91dHNldCAtIGFuZCBmb3IgdHdvIHJlYXNvbnM6CsKgCjEuIEl0J3MgbGFyZ2VyIGZ1ZWwgdGFuaywgZGlmZmVyZW50IGF4bGUgcmF0aW8gYW5kIG90aGVyIGJpdHMgb2Yga2l0IGxpa2UgdGhlIEhhbGRhIHNwZWVkcGlsb3QgZXF1aXBtZW50IGFuZCBkcml2ZXIgc3BlY2lmaWVkIG1vZHMgKGUuZy4gYSBjZW50cmFsIGhhbmRicmFrZSwgYWRkaXRpb25hbCBzd2l0Y2hlcyBhbmQgZnVzZWJveGVzKSABMAEBAQE- References: <20121030224043.3ZRUG.127607.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> <8CF85299FB9CF93-1594-579BA@webmail-d091.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:39:33 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: "Andrew S. Mace" , "tr3driver@ca.rr.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Factory visit 1957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, I'd speculate it was dubbed a 'competition' car from the outset - and for two reasons: 1. It's larger fuel tank, different axle ratio and other bits of kit like the Halda speedpilot equipment and driver specified mods (e.g. a central handbrake, additional switches and fuseboxes) would be a departure from normal production spec. Okay, you can convert back to original, but true Press Cars remained faithful to the spec of the day. Occasionally, a competition car might be 'borrowed' for a driving evaluation but that didn't make it a Press car. 2 Whether used for competition or Press work, all cars owned by or prepared by the company for private individuals would have a normal tax-paid Coventry licence plate - viz SHP 520 and in this instance HP was one of several unique Coventry marks. Others (from memory) were DU, HP, VC, RW, KV and WK. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Andrew S. Mace To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012, 2:50 Subject: Re: [TR] Factory visit 1957 >I don't have my books handy, but ISTR that SHP520 was a "Works" car (either a >press or a factory competition car, or maybe both)? > > >--Andy Mace > >*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? >*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph >Herald engine with wings. >-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) > >Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph >Register: http://www.vtr.org/ > >Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald >Database: http://triumph-herald.us/ > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Randall > > >This interesting article was originally published in the May 1957 issue of >Motor >Sport, and briefly outlines a visit to the MG, Standard, and Austin >factories. > >If I am not mistaken, the first photo (unfortunately black and white and >somewhat grainy) shows a TR3 wearing the almost-mythical "Grand Touring" >conversion, with permanently attached side curtains and outside door handles. > >http://goo.gl/r7HCK > >My thanks to 'Andy' (not Andy Mace) on the BCF Austin-Healey forum for posting >it. > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/macartney.john@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 31 22:25:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1572D05EB for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEB52D0324 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J3WK1k0031afHeLA13mPqJ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:46:23 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J3mP1k0092xZMJ48d3mPvp; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 03:46:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 03:46:23 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Do you live in Washington, DC? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Do you live in Washington, DC? If you know anything about the Foggy Bottom, Downtown, West End, or Dupont Circle areas, please send me an Email. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive