From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 12:51:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2D42D075B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F5D2D0702 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so2559472lag.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PjBc5ZpzKfdcy1iQ5n8QAKIhZ14vCEJ+vt4+rIE+E1Y=; b=v4li9YdoLwighG+DVpe8g5cTrP1Y4LH+u/7/II7RlbaVldkYKRHg5tqWjRccHC13UK 2fclxMFOQgpfp+B1Ty5XwrtxwBeo/VhD2mwXdxSS7tujLvWSosrRlJrthFcQaf/kYpx7 9S97hfy87fW1hBQkZ1UwJ9tH9GhKFzJDfclhhr3GrAvfIutNsB7/Tz1pPxvxHoGK1Dey SP5cUVbYXsB3KZCxUSrPX7vI9OqIuu9ACx9tFcD78NcU4Oj2tt/wF9mazF4RhYwIRkxN t+si0vS/CXcgqUdNDuEHy7+O/Nm7QNa3Wg0ka7jErBTuLOf2aRE+QXFT7IggjHPpucY1 zM1A== Received: by 10.112.38.234 with SMTP id j10mr15939852lbk.80.1351792667568; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:57:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:57:27 -0400 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] A time-warp 1968 Triumph 2000 on eBay UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As they say, something can be restored many times, but can only be original once... http://tinyurl.com/bj6kue9 Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 17:41:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB47B2D07A5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAFB2D063C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id c11so672595qad.14 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AITMBdFTOMOk6DL65wPBIvV0GJDIvbUvejfInrBudcQ=; b=FbSJXi0woj7vueXv/BOixOxAaCLWFRXOWlE8IMXenpU1AenTGdTlJfyQKKzQA7PXlF 00iD6dEhdLrOZz0+9LwdY9scHhfYuzROOnmdoBJWNCFI17ILGDaUw6KMTMU/hBIZJm44 f5yNOIQ8qH7LZ1OdiW50iE3WmYGQrCl0KI2GbHwxLngJLV6q7bVPb6O/W306i1u0MREm WKPL2XjTgK3FLtgZ730d/1MCPqrX+vJP08L8mbKYe263ZthcPWBMAMIMQMiKSgBdQ2ht Grlf21aVVzqYApMDaSENrZANhgxOvhjKZwI6jL0eNn2vyAygiRDGMl6AfqvTeW8PxBQ5 PpHg== Received: by 10.224.53.5 with SMTP id k5mr102448qag.20.1351810359761; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.116.130 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:52:39 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Don Hiscock Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] A time-warp 1968 Triumph 2000 on eBay UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net *"...It is in running driving condition, although there are no brakes."* ** That's the spirit! Geo On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > > As they say, something can be restored many times, but can only be original > once... > http://tinyurl.com/bj6kue9 > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 1 18:42:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190442D073C for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130D92C0458 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:49:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so1557628wgb.20 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FOvA+atY8zCi0pSh0YCASx3bXvOvywIhIp6EXyz5+3A=; b=HU1kbzEBOTLAwSAxHMc17zTVlBqv8BhWLj+14BiQ5uwzdLLzVmorSJ9cNbB/uVz1Be xWP+5vzwV7YVLBcl4RY/2UCBCfFrRw7CreUi2AlumUS4NhmwveZh47exJ9PShfmaE8gh aiHbx73D/XiioSlUEo7QYsYjLz+8eEeV5WctdmKWdbXUnYdVSJ0hfdKBSjGrDUK2vElg Va49okc9Cy4RtPTHe+eswLhRJulDMNSXq+fmvjo9V4LRkQNf3yOASp2F4aMUeVHbKgQZ lOSm1IHLPRFKZfOnsizVDKdLMzxuZbvOZFGNPPgyRd7t7M0lUBuNA/oL/Fz8KwfQlk+o 7rSg== Received: by 10.216.225.142 with SMTP id z14mr19958wep.38.1351813859418; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:50:59 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: Geo Hahn Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] A time-warp 1968 Triumph 2000 on eBay UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I remember what that's like!!!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 08:37:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585642D064F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:37:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D883F2D04AE for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm25.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 13:44:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.67] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 13:44:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 13:44:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 97421 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2012 13:44:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351863870; bh=hIAP8NlA454nvr/vxbJ+dBCmMIxk8sOPhXM86UjMG2g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m9sPJr7RDDsShyIISD2Blumbt3pTQP+TiWOhwgfXktW1EGrHhHQoetRY7rAew/72gzFAyHYOfQIdRMlbhDbfImT8DVPyiEN7rUMEiP4TR9sl/z++NOg3fI4bYn88nO60cb96hsLPtRiVmi6ULwpYuPokYfjOKo9tWdqcvuuPojE= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VBrqzOKjQsvPMwDOMV37CnWNv9T8ldSJGZ7GL7i/a1rf9CuSjCTG5pjxpXqZbAqjc5Y/Q45WKXIZ9Fusp0pcdLySqfCCdxmrL8OjYheyS4Dk20JyosIlsr+AHlc3zztm2xKwnq/gn5itCNpFZ7N+IeIWAHvr5oOq6vnEvkKUyQw=; B0OS1EvEk2VV1VqBEaeCmhtDWswZ2yMP5ivLgJ7ytuDkHAROugot9AJ27G9l 0bNt2vFqJeqdiRQDm3zgpCewWB_TDrW3PjgEBX0eFuriiszXAsZIS.LYXHVr .yGC7LSXRwnxCZqhuszXna_vVD4v4BfFnSTiVqINkHoafFoz08HajRZTPigt uE7gokN9QUiTMwKrFpVtroYlt_IyYTpilBglwcQQqc1dwE6Y26TbvnTcQnyR qsFWw8y0rkSMvWA7yIz6ECqYr6VnuP1kE266HSd6DpFSHwvBOdTtPnLJ2UBe qV1s1lzJ9CdznzStnvia9vCgmr_cfHnLmqrSLni7WoAMiLasAhGLZh3Iegk6 6kkAuuSlVh5pyw09KAxRXYXCf93FtxXmIX067WyeNrNPMnbvmoJTuX.ByWCY bI6IWCSJydv7rCOpXvMWiodyli0aaQK632OJJAYPIyoPJ22h5z0_OndIKiWZ pgNnQWaNYN_xpknqVsXQV2se8RsZnKQS._acertZy2cdZ69S259g- Received: from [99.149.16.191] by web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:44:29 PDT DQoNCi0tLSBPbiBGcmksIDExLzIvMTIsIEphbmlzIERhYmFycyA8amRhYmFyc0BhdHQubmV0PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBKYW5pcyBEYWJhcnMgPGpkYWJhcnNAYXR0Lm5ldD4NClN1YmplY3Q6IEZ3OiBUcml1bWYgR3JhdmUgeWFyZC4gdmVyeSBkZXByZXNzaW5nICoqKioqKioqKioNClRvOiAiSm9obiBEYWJhcnMiIDxqZGFiYXJzQGF0dC5uZXQ.DQpEYXRlOiBGcmlkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDIsIDIwMTIsIDk6MzIgQU0NCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 06:44:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Fw: Triumf Grave yard. very depressing ********** Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --- On Fri, 11/2/12, Janis Dabars wrote: From: Janis Dabars Subject: Fw: Triumf Grave yard. very depressing ********** To: "John Dabars" Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 9:32 AM Subject: Fw: Triumf Grave yard. very depressing ********** Is this place in USA, California? What you think? LET ME KNOW Click on this. IF you into Triumphs--DEPRESSING! Where is this holy grale? www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLodGhh9moE ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 09:29:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79582D0644 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1DB2D050A for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=PJrE_18uR9kA:10 a=mEIYTywKP0rK6-ixBm0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:58957] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 63/FD-12302-475D3905; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:15:17 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 9:15:16 -0500 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing this job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop manual suggests is required. Can anyone comment on how hard it is to replace the MC without removing the brake MC and pedal assembly? Thanks. Dean 1965 TR4 1976 AR 2000 GTV 1976 AR Giulia Nuova Super 2L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 10:14:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6306F2D06E7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6254F2D046A for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so6438614ied.14 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=C8w3jnPHPI3JDfLnAmIgujqIkjX+VQjD/Q8+B2jB9+4=; b=oO7F6aoJkL+2K5eAQ+GPUxjTBntv8DMPHfSu4N/ikdPiNMM+idPVW8aJHqS3xVt/1m JHJPXXv8w7cH50x7fP3iQZg3d9mXGmMFtRokJOq/NcU13M8Ta2brS/xMQ7vXQwYmIqOs 3EiEdKs5iSYdMLRwUP/oL18o7TnZlLnGe1CaIXZxArMns4LgU9zhu4Kpi/01EYWaaMpd LlJltd9EhBCO1K7Qo7pM4RJiFGkOPlTWNEHxhnB5gPh5fMr5l9PJCBEfnmn/QdLoRdik yKaP3zV7xmKwUw+MQJHcYQctVrRC5N1p510leHPj1ijZBI4xE2qQBGga4YlFJ6wH+Rmx mJdA== Received: by 10.50.16.144 with SMTP id g16mr1960404igd.23.1351868916569; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <1351863869.75897.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:08:36 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Janis Dabars Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: Triumf Grave yard. very depressing ********** Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Creepy but interesting nonetheless. Doesn't look like California, possibly the UK. I recall a place like this in New Castle, Indiana back in the 70s... they stacked the TR3 bodies 6 high and to move one around they punched thru the side with a forklift. BTW -- If the music is familiar but you can't place it: *The Good, the Bad and the Ugly* *Geo * ** On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Janis Dabars wrote: > Click on this. IF you into Triumphs--DEPRESSING! Where is this holy > grale? > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLodGhh9moE ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 11:02:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABBF2D06C7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20A22D0357 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:38:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so6497436ied.14 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k/sW6UJ2OrFVHGYiwNmP6A4x6zO5MiQOeMHmVAoXzOQ=; b=VHw4BaoG7iu+iBrqOgmoOtHuZOW7KN9V4OBtGqRqZXh23TwgOYRlHDxRDhW/Dq4z1U fOYEJ6H7gnBP+tMbNbJdJLjqONvzlQqoSNVRGFslN2/7/2L+mYwCfor1kJ6bD2ywZw7D bn5l6BAnOYXm2n66XeNz1UIs87Edeh20yJt6IAyj++eZ4rIeCsy0E/KJQFKkSoePyIEu tC3QsHryP6ou+iSaCiI9JPumzxrq8fbPoHJMYgAB7SUcWAwtt4zH7swcdd/VUNSOfetb tYODUAgPOfSPhrG5yLannYDoVN+DZkhLjlHjKynvtZnOcsg/Flvvqsh50XDCnq3uQyf8 2y0A== Received: by 10.50.47.201 with SMTP id f9mr2051696ign.44.1351870797277; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:39:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <20121102141517.0K7L3.83907.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 08:39:57 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: dmericas@austin.rr.com Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dean -- I recall no difficulty in R&Ring the M/C with the pedal box *in situ*. You may need to get creative with the wrenches (1/4" drive, short extension, wobble extension or u-joint) to get at that lower bolt but nothing new in that. TR3s were easier as they had a 'back door'. When reinstalling I find it easier if very I loosely attach the mounting bolts then attach the hard line while I still have some wiggle room to line up the threads of the fitting. Geo On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, wrote: > I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing this > job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop manual suggests > is required. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 11:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413CD2D0934 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADCA2D048F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 09:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jf071k0071Y3wxoAEfpyNF; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:49:58 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jfpy1k0022xZMJ48bfpyGl; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:49:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:49:58 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: dmericas@austin.rr.com Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced the clutch master cylinder in my 1962 TR4 and I do not recall any problems. I certainly did not remove the pedal box or mess with the pedal mounting. Maybe it's a good thing I didn't look at the manual. I just proceded in what seemed like an obvious manner. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: dmericas@austin.rr.com > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 9:15:16 AM > Subject: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 > I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing this > job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop manual > suggests is required. > > Can anyone comment on how hard it is to replace the MC without > removing the brake MC and pedal assembly? > > Thanks. > > Dean > 1965 TR4 > 1976 AR 2000 GTV > 1976 AR Giulia Nuova Super 2L > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 11:48:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED6A2D06DE for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD562D061F for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0wUrPLgTxqEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nfkdqT0ThLd_QsUNGDcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:61173] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 1C/DC-18850-2C3F3905; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:24:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:24:34 +0000 From: To: Tom Householder Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tom and others for the quick responses. Maybe my memory is not that bad after all ;^) I do recall now that some creative socket arrangement was required for that bottom bolt. Dean 1965 TR4 1974 AR 2000 GTV 1976 AR Giulia Nuova Super 2L ---- Tom Householder wrote: > I have never taken the box out....... flex sockets help ....... > > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:15 AM, wrote: > > > I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing > > this job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop > > manual suggests is required. > > > > Can anyone comment on how hard it is to replace the MC without > > removing the brake MC and pedal assembly? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Dean > > 1965 TR4 > > 1976 AR 2000 GTV > > 1976 AR Giulia Nuova Super 2L > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ > > trhouse@columbus.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 16:51:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C194D2D0687 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E7B2C0A21 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 15:22:22 -0600 (MDT) a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=as8MkfU5TmgA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=MP4kTv1p9OAA:10 a=mya8hFRxHl3keSdiHysA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=c_J6w6PZzrPccfDG:21 a=yNV_SyrXT9uxAx3C:21 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:55874] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 04/40-20885-3D934905; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:23:32 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:23:28 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac25QExDeFoG/TmUTSmplILVtsh8/g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I'll bite... Asking "how much is it worth" is like me asking how much is my house worth (BTW, it IS for sale!). We'll need more info, so if you'd like some feedback, I'd start with providing the following: what does the car need (body, paint, top, interior, etc), color, accessories, OD or non-OD, wires or disks, and so on. I always get a kick out of "needs nothing except .....". My restorations are award winning, so my idea of "refreshed" and "no issues" my be different than yours (no offense!), so pictures will go a loooong way here. I went to look at "nicely refreshed" early MGB the other day and was appalled someone would actually call it "refreshed" much less "nicely refreshed". Give us a 1 - 5 number (1 being Concours, 5 being tow it home). I can drive home a late '60s early '70s TR6 in #4 for about $2500. Of course, to turn that car around and sell it for $20-25k I'll put a boat load of time and money in to it. To make it Concours will take 3-5x that time and money. Most of the time not worth it. This time of year, deduct 10-20%, unless selling in to a warm climate. Of course, all of this may be rubbish in the UK... Anyone else care to add their 2 bits? Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 18:55:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23ED2D0687 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:55:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDF52D04F2 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JbeR1k00D0SCNGk55nDDjs; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:13:13 +0000 Received: from [10.238.163.183] ([174.252.113.221]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JnDW1k00m4mg9jA3VnDZmx; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:13:40 +0000 To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:13:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?So_what_IS_a_TR_worth=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There's a butt for every seat.... Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Subject: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 17:23 OK, I'll bite... Asking "how much is it worth" is like me asking how much is my house worth (BTW, it IS for sale!). We'll need more info, so if you'd like some feedback, I'd start with providing the following: what does the car need (body, paint, top, interior, etc), color, accessories, OD or non-OD, wires or disks, and so on. I always get a kick out of "needs nothing except ......". My restorations are award winning, so my idea of "refreshed" and "no issues" my be different than yours (no offense!), so pictures will go a loooong way here. I went to look at "nicely refreshed" early MGB the other day and was appalled someone would actually call it "refreshed" much less "nicely refreshed". Give us a 1 - 5 number (1 being Concours, 5 being tow it home). I can drive home a late '60s early '70s TR6 in #4 for about $2500. Of course, to turn that car around and sell it for $20-25k I'll put a boat load of time and money in to it. To make it Concours will take 3-5x that time and money. Most of the time not worth it. This time of year, deduct 10-20%, unless selling in to a warm climate. Of course, all of this may be rubbish in the UK... Anyone else care to add their 2 bits? Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 19:03:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776112D0923 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:03:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AF22D050A for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 17:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 23:29:12 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.239] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 23:29:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Nov 2012 23:29:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7883 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2012 23:29:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351898952; bh=CK115itJtv3DIzqbHsTpuPanAaiuVRYTHvGK3Qifg/c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rqDFiCPoKlGQejQPU3VajFyqqSOrqTYI+0vkuq+6Tk7PilyQlI67hFE8OUAxQx7WmTrwt/AhB7VHfJE+AuZX+lhdPHTW5hGH/i3osCi6Q7g7PO1x1ejFf7w5HUORaOKvcrGkkigDpRDCXZffdKGO/rhu1eo14W38QeXhrfViOcw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JLWhttO+JIhT2Q8XCgWCpO0Xnp4RI7ZtIYSPupfHYT+cIQGqwUwrzpV3VMChNznpeyXCspQaPoTo/MODSSUdDxVtMgrLxoANNwS/5+jvdWQSX4rc++USzz6uSmLhykLXPQW/Ccc4GGF6IyoTFAxaaOHwhDBp2txWmIUVl+qqTxQ=; nvIaptsZswf.vrvr9kmH6.rTeuf8dUHC_LzdANF7J1UumN2g2cGvh3Es.vbU bDBE74rdmaJAXUVtFjqP1qxmVBV.Z6OfCJmKAuCYRJesNahFJd7GcLRB02vQ Z8U1Y0Z_LTN5lqlQ_SwzPHaEU27py2p2KB30bJ6IhpPqY_n3U_GrRfFf5amw TSRZegiqbB3dnlUc6bCf8Y1_WWeFLZHXRlwi2hhZLVU.LqrO_gmdQ6oZfXY2 6.6_CgbiGz7SAGg1txfGGGcdfDnAz47V.PU3CXkclao2XX6QTUvcW4uQCXcO Pn3KngCl33vXWd0_vAooPZXIfH9ADYnFxc0zcysHWtV6DtCcZUVch83KBZPy Up9iGxEIu77f68UbJQ.zBxy_JG_1J6ZchBOiJ_angr8JHzdwwg0jmfUm5fnA j_MOz9HwCI4ZPc4wuUWaMVgiLTeKJ8A9pP.Aw Received: from [90.199.100.208] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:29:11 GMT SSdsbCBwdXQgaW4gYSBjb21tZW50IChvciB0d28pIGFzIHdlbGwgRldJVy4KwqAKT2J2aW91c2x5LCB0aGUgd29ydGggb2YgYW55IGl0ZW0gaXMgcmVhbGx5IG9ubHkgd2hhdCBzb21lb25lIGlzIHByZXBhcmVkIHRvIHBheSBmb3IgaXQuIApUaGUgcHJpY2VzIHN0YXJ0IHRvIGNsaW1iIGFzIGNhcnMgYmVjb21lIHJhcmVyIGFuZCBtb3JlIHNvdWdodCBhZnRlci4gCkNsYXNzaWMgZXhhbXBsZXMgYXJlIFRSNSBhZ2FpbnN0IFRSMjUwLiAKT25seSAyMDAwIG9kZCA1J3Mgd2VyZSBtYWRlIGFnYWluc3QgODAwMCABMAEBAQE- References: <005701cdb940$4d9d1c80$e8d75580$@roadrunner.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:29:11 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: "308gtsi@roadrunner.com" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll put in a comment (or two) as well FWIW. Obviously, the worth of any item is really only what someone is prepared to pay for it. The prices start to climb as cars become rarer and more sought after. Classic examples are TR5 against TR250. Only 2000 odd 5's were made against 8000 odd 250's arguably making the 5 the most sought after Triumph sports car in the UK - and the prices are reflecting that, even when sold privately. Equally, this list in the past has commented on the escalation of 250 prices over the years. It's a simple case of supply and demand. Turn off the supply, the price goes up and that's a ploy that was exploited for years by Mercedes who intentionally ran their lines below full capacity. Seems to me that prices for TR's in the US/Canada will always be lower than elsewhere because that's where the majority went when new. Also applies to AH, Jaguar, MG. That said, cars being sold in the UK are commanding utterly stupid prices for mediocrity, while those with more money than sense are seemingly content to fork out $35k - $45k for something that looks reasonable - and probably still needs work. Bottom line is if the buyer wants it and has the money and you're there with what he/she wants to buy, chances are you could do quite well - but people have a choice and many are preapared to wait a long,long time before they acquire their heart's desire - and usually after a lot of haggling. So the answer? Price for maximum return on your car and be prepared to negotiate downwards - slowly. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Brian Induni <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, 2 November 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? >OK, I'll bite... > >Asking "how much is it worth" is like me asking how much is my house worth >(BTW, it IS for sale!). We'll need more info, so if you'd like some >feedback, I'd start with providing the following: what does the car need >(body, paint, top, interior, etc), color, accessories, OD or non-OD, wires >or disks, and so on. I always get a kick out of "needs nothing except >.....". > >My restorations are award winning, so my idea of "refreshed" and "no issues" >my be different than yours (no offense!), so pictures will go a loooong way >here. I went to look at "nicely refreshed" early MGB the other day and was >appalled someone would actually call it "refreshed" much less "nicely >refreshed". Give us a 1 - 5 number (1 being Concours, 5 being tow it home). > >I can drive home a late '60s early '70s TR6 in #4 for about $2500. Of >course, to turn that car around and sell it for $20-25k I'll put a boat load >of time and money in to it. To make it Concours will take 3-5x that time and >money. Most of the time not worth it. > >This time of year, deduct 10-20%, unless selling in to a warm climate. > >Of course, all of this may be rubbish in the UK... > >Anyone else care to add their 2 bits? > >Brian > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 20:53:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D282D0712 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF0B2D031D for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:39:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170019pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MCW00IAO1Z0ZFJ0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.159.154 ([96.255.159.154]) by vms170019 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:40:12 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXXke1QqO: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 22:43:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5752D06EE for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 22:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDAC2D04C7 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 21:00:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170019pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MCW0091Q5QVU800@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:01:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.159.154 ([96.255.159.154]) by vms170019 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:01:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:01:43 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Easy one for the list. Like everyone else, I drip some fluif from my gearbox and differential. I always try and top up going into winter when I have more time. Last year, Jiffy Lube let me drive in and walk down under the car and top it off for free. The year before that, my friend with a Jag got the car level and helped me. My problem is I only have a set of Rhino ramps and have no way to get the car level. The question is, if I run the front up on the ramps and then pump in some fluid, obviously when I come back down the level will be above where it should be according to the book. Is there really any risk with overfilling these two parts? If there is, I will make other arrangements. Thanks, Craig H. Nicholls 1972 Triumph TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 2 23:47:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1AB2D0756 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A9C2D0694 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 21:55:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MCW000CB89KYP30@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:56:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "ptegler" To: , , , Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:56:10 -0400 Subject: [TR] Salt Lake City Utah Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net hey... Triumph-holics here in the Salt Lake City Utah area? Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 00:53:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4822D06F3 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 00:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6BF2D03DA for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 23:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JtMy1k0011smiN4AEtMyfo; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:21:58 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JtMy1k0072yr1eL8gtMyx5; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:21:58 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:21:58 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: thenicholls@verizon.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Seriously: How much does a second set of Rhino ramps cost? Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: thenicholls@verizon.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 10:01:43 PM > Subject: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff > Easy one for the list. > > > Like everyone else, I drip some fluif from my gearbox and > differential. I always try and top up going into winter when I have > more time. > > > Last year, Jiffy Lube let me drive in and walk down under the car and > top it off for free. The year before that, my friend with a Jag got > the car level and helped me. > > > My problem is I only have a set of Rhino ramps and have no way to get > the car level. > > > The question is, if I run the front up on the ramps and then pump in > some fluid, obviously when I come back down the level will be above > where it should be according to the book. > > > Is there really any risk with overfilling these two parts? If there > is, I will make other arrangements. > > > Thanks, > > > Craig H. Nicholls > 1972 Triumph TR6 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 03:45:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893BB2D03AE for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 03:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4D62D028D for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 02:11:16 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=MrZuFOBJZx8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FJ_cVkIEbDAA:10 a=sJERdYvLaMfuSo0EzpsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CF/F9-18765-7E1D4905; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:12:24 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <2453459.374090.1351911703971.JavaMail.root@vms170019> <2074271060.86818.1351920118500.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:12:23 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac25kCTzyUJ58oWgQ9+pAoJ8Afxs4QACWfsA Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Seriously: How much does a second set of Rhino ramps cost? A lot more than they're worth. The ramps won't fit under middle of the car and it's really tough to have the front wheels moving forwards onto the ramps, while the back wheels move backwards onto the ramps. A jack and two pairs of jackstands work a lot better. Without overdrive, I don't think you've got anything to worry about. The gearbox and diff plugs are pretty close to the center, so the error will be small and the worst that will happen is that the excess will leak out faster. With overdrive though, I'd want to get it level somehow. I hear it's possible to cut a hole in the side of the trans tunnel so you can fill it with the wheels on the ground. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 04:43:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027312D03D2 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 04:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DEC2D030C for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 03:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121103092908.YJYN24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:29:08 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id JxV41k00A3enFnk05xV7EL; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:29:08 -0400 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=MrZuFOBJZx8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=DLXO72i6AAAA:8 a=AFAgp7RTAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=qV23_qyXVSzPzPy-cMwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: , References: <2453459.374090.1351911703971.JavaMail.root@vms170019> <2074271060.86818.1351920118500.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 05:29:02 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHL3AMX/dOLgnuLNX49bhMEzY12lJfbkxEA Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Stupid question I guess - What's a Rhino Clamp? Anything like a sky hook? Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pethier@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:22 AM To: thenicholls@verizon.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Seriously: How much does a second set of Rhino ramps cost? Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: thenicholls@verizon.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 10:01:43 PM > Subject: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Easy one for the list. > > > Like everyone else, I drip some fluif from my gearbox and > differential. I always try and top up going into winter when I have > more time. > > > Last year, Jiffy Lube let me drive in and walk down under the car and > top it off for free. The year before that, my friend with a Jag got > the car level and helped me. > > > My problem is I only have a set of Rhino ramps and have no way to get > the car level. > > > The question is, if I run the front up on the ramps and then pump in > some fluid, obviously when I come back down the level will be above > where it should be according to the book. > > > Is there really any risk with overfilling these two parts? If there > is, I will make other arrangements. > > > Thanks, > > > Craig H. Nicholls > 1972 Triumph TR6 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 08:31:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3842D03B9 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:31:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3527C2D0331 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 12461 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2012 13:07:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.109.93) by smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.36) with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2012 13:07:47 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'John Macartney'" , References: <005701cdb940$4d9d1c80$e8d75580$@roadrunner.com> <1351898951.7638.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:07:55 -0400 Thread-Index: AQKWInZgZRMWJ7lTkBIDgdP14yUpqwF3sCtdljuFE9A= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all who replied - to the list and individually. For what it's worth, US prices look like (on a scale of 1-5): Nice, refreshed TR6 (probably a 3) - $10K Older restored TR3 (4+) - $20K New restored small-mouth (5) - $30K Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Macartney Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:29 PM To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? I'll put in a comment (or two) as well FWIW. Obviously, the worth of any item is really only what someone is prepared to pay for it. The prices start to climb as cars become rarer and more sought after. Classic examples are TR5 against TR250. Only 2000 odd 5's were made against 8000 odd 250's arguably making the 5 the most sought after Triumph sports car in the UK - and the prices are reflecting that, even when sold privately. Equally, this list in the past has commented on the escalation of 250 prices over the years. It's a simple case of supply and demand. Turn off the supply, the price goes up and that's a ploy that was exploited for years by Mercedes who intentionally ran their lines below full capacity. Seems to me that prices for TR's in the US/Canada will always be lower than elsewhere because that's where the majority went when new. Also applies to AH, Jaguar, MG. That said, cars being sold in the UK are commanding utterly stupid prices for mediocrity, while those with more money than sense are seemingly content to fork out $35k - $45k for something that looks reasonable - and probably still needs work. Bottom line is if the buyer wants it and has the money and you're there with what he/she wants to buy, chances are you could do quite well - but people have a choice and many are preapared to wait a long,long time before they acquire their heart's desire - and usually after a lot of haggling. So the answer? Price for maximum return on your car and be prepared to negotiate downwards - slowly. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Brian Induni <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, 2 November 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [TR] So what IS a TR worth? >OK, I'll bite... > >Asking "how much is it worth" is like me asking how much is my house worth >(BTW, it IS for sale!). We'll need more info, so if you'd like some >feedback, I'd start with providing the following: what does the car need >(body, paint, top, interior, etc), color, accessories, OD or non-OD, wires >or disks, and so on. I always get a kick out of "needs nothing except >.....". > >My restorations are award winning, so my idea of "refreshed" and "no issues" >my be different than yours (no offense!), so pictures will go a loooong way >here. I went to look at "nicely refreshed" early MGB the other day and was >appalled someone would actually call it "refreshed" much less "nicely >refreshed". Give us a 1 - 5 number (1 being Concours, 5 being tow it home). > >I can drive home a late '60s early '70s TR6 in #4 for about $2500. Of >course, to turn that car around and sell it for $20-25k I'll put a boat load >of time and money in to it. To make it Concours will take 3-5x that time and >money. Most of the time not worth it. > >This time of year, deduct 10-20%, unless selling in to a warm climate. > >Of course, all of this may be rubbish in the UK... > >Anyone else care to add their 2 bits? > >Brian > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 09:31:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0799B2D0383 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374EA2D0336 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1vR1k0041YDfWL591y1Ju; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:58:01 +0000 Received: from sz0048.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1x11k0082ymm843g1x13V; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:57:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 13:58:02 +0000 (UTC) From: tfansher@comcast.net To: Randall Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I cut a hole in the right tranny tunnel in my TR3A a few years ago. I made it the same size as the hole in the floor and used that plug to seal it.. Tom 60 TR3A 61 TR3A 62 TR4 73 Stag Mk II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 4:12:23 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff > Seriously: B How much does a second set of Rhino ramps cost? A lot more than they're worth. B The ramps won't fit under middle of the car and it's really tough to have the front wheels moving forwards onto the ramps, while the back wheels move backwards onto the ramps. B A jack and two pairs of jackstands work a lot better. Without overdrive, I don't think you've got anything to worry about. B The gearbox and diff plugs are pretty close to the center, so the error will be small and the worst that will happen is that the excess will leak out faster. B With overdrive though, I'd want to get it level somehow. B I hear it's possible to cut a hole in the side of the trans tunnel so you can fill it with the wheels on the ground. -- RandallB B ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 10:33:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B6E2D03A8 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com (mail-da0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8E72D033A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i14so2237715dad.14 for ; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mn8Lwmr+LCZ3vVHTENV5xz7kR0f47tUcbkWjb88DCAc=; b=LbJm0FP9Nc+/urj+fmBskYITEv8n4SKk2q1MxgF6Ee4t5i8xOBLiRE0uD+7ilsU86W 7ENe/mWZADh5ecttN555+9xoMbjVHI7N5KwCTD42h6tP/caAEZPzRhKWD772uYivC3z5 i/AKL22aMcunoCpDejfNIIgD4Ho7cowg6Jjw5/EFgRcdOgxTDrIv9YWtbuE737O5oFQL jJcrDfcpuDuZ52dzEwSNwkhIfRmaUBgB1I/7cw8/zmdH0gE4e+fNLZyYtb3OLGya1JXo 1u2fHJZmb6YKO9zZcDvTFgOHw/mxbNbUc6FX0H+PGbsNEatgMPsh38IOb+J03Iik4ifn 7MjA== Received: by 10.68.237.167 with SMTP id vd7mr15596567pbc.161.1351953492474; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c1sm7476878pav.23.2012.11.03.07.38.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:38:08 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2453459.374090.1351911703971.JavaMail.root@vms170019> Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/2/12 8:01 PM, thenicholls@verizon.net wrote: > The question is, if I run the front up on the ramps and then pump in some fluid, obviously when I come back down the level will be above where it should be according to the book. I went after the how to top off without a lift problem in a different way. I cut an access hole into the side of my gearbox tunnel centered on the fill plug. Series Land Rovers have a big access hole in their gearbox tunnels and a big rubber plug to seal the hole. The rubber plugs are available new. I drilled a pilot hole centered over the TR's fill plug and made a hole the size of the LR rubber plug. I suppose one could do the same with the rubber plug that fits over the jack hole in a TR3. So I sit the car on a level surface, remove the rubber plug then the fill plug then fill or top off using a funnel with a tube at the bottom. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 10:40:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060E2D0964 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B182D032A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 09:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so4179529iak.14 for ; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WnK7RgrBvTAdgnq8V+3b22nrRf/zx2cNDo2VcX0KgqA=; b=xMYKvI4EzKQlm5CxRnoLVDqcZyR5JdBBWHXo8mo6CwSXQjXHHOj6vYX5KVGduxuOMy qEMC2Cpi+gLUGGDFjnSIUFALXInU6IzxtbL/pCM3HpFH06MqkYJ6sR4GOsJlqsDuFa+r 6legQvht8nfmp7Nk8AwoADifxpggBkEE6XsK4perUMVdQTWzvrWHUc3q8pnDYr3fz5eh 4nhquUFHlkMJxGSKHtT183D+lKioVVeIftBHMiTplMCd3qO6coXeR2C09IPT+yj+Hx6V P+qaDlyByLcjbkZkA4tbFq5lGYCic4pRVHvqzw17hzCKbOwcXd23F63HF1mYXaPkEj9G papA== Received: by 10.50.47.201 with SMTP id f9mr4832250ign.44.1351956154691; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <2453459.374090.1351911703971.JavaMail.root@vms170019> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:22:34 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: thenicholls@verizon.net Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Topping off gear box and diff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, wrote: > > Is there really any risk with overfilling these two parts? If there is, I will make other arrangements. IMO, yes. Particularly in the diff an overfill may be too much for the seal in the axle and you end up with gear oil on the brakes. But even before I had a lift I would fill the diff by crawling under the rear of the car with all 4 on the floor. In the case of the gearbox, you could fill a bit on the ramps, leave the fill plug out, back down & let the excess drain then perhaps sneak in there and insert the plug 9even if you had to drive up the ramps to get to where you tighten it. You do not want to run the engine with that plug out though so someone will have to push you off the ramps. The whole thing is easier with jackstands but I know some prefer ramps. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 14:51:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFF52D03BE for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:51:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136992C0CB0 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 12:45:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K6Zy1k0021eYJf8AB6mh9r; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 18:46:41 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K6mh1k00C2yr1eL016mhpu; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 18:46:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:46:41 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: ptegler Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Salt Lake City Utah Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sure. Mark, the guy that runs this triumphs@autox.team.net list. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ptegler" > To: nass@yahoogroup.com, "Triumph GT6 Enthusiast" , triumphs@autox.team.net, > spit6CGT6@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 10:56:10 PM > Subject: [TR] Salt Lake City Utah > hey... Triumph-holics here in the Salt Lake City Utah area? > > Paul Tegler > ptegler@verizon.net > www.teglerizer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 3 21:28:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A852D03BE for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEB02D0336 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2012 03:27:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.234] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2012 03:27:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2012 03:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 42157 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2012 03:27:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1351999665; bh=YohL77s01yYhAswLkU/c1ILExiDRdv+K3N3ae4zghgI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GBX+/shJT0QV4f+hgtVy2Dub/ZjJ4qnpUJXmhqKmmkgMjNAdn1uimCfgk1RK3b/bG7Cznc8oOxJg1EpKndSLMTsOdSBbey4xH4TBdubd+4vdvGuw5xkJmvY9eiUMTrT5ScZrh21Btk2ChskOF2veU3sqlBJ2xnOADlQAu+FRCf0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6wujRmKhtsK3RtaFKrTnj33BX2qbdwdO8n/uA6z4sADqT50Gc8b/f58M3iLxEV1kqOfQX+0n8iwZsqOOTjVqGc5fexaqIwRzcvHMiontl9ZW4xFgEwgQS+ZiZ7jHIm5MZX91B/WQU7O3Z85X9uqnJ+GGJufJjvk633eCyAQOiT0=; DkxInu5G7ZRr8PdzBhVDzJyuzjW8UnR6KPD0Ce77m4FrVZrEPyp8U8MKuCUy m9wAx57v.I76NDT676Z0V0V73jzBiMFv.AbdfrS323PGopdjvOgsn3wc8s54 AXLxc1ATPi0n8Mv2rxuJ_vdNsMBdTHcuu4l0qTCZJqACDN86CHxHBUePJean dqbDVvLOa31TAWIzFwiUPTdB4ZRbgnxb2lqphRjjgsKzMEGMd3dMeiN05dYb dUuHbvcjYLHDs2._SlPjFVzAsYVsbUkGK1frj0uYMhwiMnh8q8donmrUjXRB 9P16ttY6q6oBwfOY.6xxiu9XeDrH7PXKsRS8bVpRb1DnKmjP2xaREVVGW3LX qDXgoOet_Jef5xFQkSa1ggdU3rMWp02zuTyq1rsKEkXG0aGoVNlGLyPGebzV suStZrgFA4BPwb_dCWDHF Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:27:45 PDT VGhlIHRocmVhZCBjb25jZXJuaW5nIHRoZSB3b3J0aCBvZiBvdXIgY2FycyBjYW1lIGFsb25nIGF0IHRoZSBzYW1lIHRpbWUgSSd2ZSBiZWVuIGFkZGluZyB1cCBteSBjb3N0L2hvdXJzICh0ci0zKS7CoCBJJ20gYmFzaWNhbGx5IGZpbmlzaGVkIGJ1dCBzdGlsbCBuZWVkIHRvIGluc3RhbGwgdGhlIHRvcC9zaWRlIGN1cnRhaW5zIGFzIHdlbGwgYXMgYnV5IG5ldyB3aGVlbHMvdGlyZXMuCgpJIHRyaWVkIHRvIGtlZXAgYSB2ZXJ5IGFjY3VyYXRlIGNvdW50IG9mIGhvdXJzIHNwZW50IGJ1dCB0aGlzIGNhbiBiZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Value/restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The thread concerning the worth of our cars came along at the same time I've been adding up my cost/hours (tr-3). I'm basically finished but still need to install the top/side curtains as well as buy new wheels/tires. I tried to keep a very accurate count of hours spent but this can be somewhat flexible. I did not count time spent "sitting and thinking", reading up on procedures, thinking through problems or consulting with experts. I came up with 1470 hours. Adding up invoices came to a little over $15,000. This included parts purchased as well as services such as engine machining (i took apart and assembled engine), chroming, glueing vinyl over 3 pieces of trim and final paint spray. Oh..........I didn't include the purchase of tools/equipment needed such as a MIG welder and sand blasting cabinet kit I made. This car was a VERY RATTY car. Probably a very borderline car to restore needing all new floors, inner and outer sills, all brackets holding car to frame as well as metal rotted out behind the brackets. It had the bottom 8 inches of both forward footwells rotted as well as that much of bottom front fenders. Rear fenders were good however trunk floor gone and very rear clip bashed in with loads of bondo. The final cost depends on what I feel my labor is worth. If I pay myself $1.00 an hour I'll have a restoration for less than $17,000. LOL Since this car will stay in the family forever the cost isn't a big concern. I was surprised at the hour total. This was an experience I can check off my bucket list and was one of the most interesting, frustrating, challenging and fun things I've done in years! And I'm also glad its done! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 06:21:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DEE2D0BCC for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 06:21:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251CD2D0AF8 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 06:13:58 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=nU9QOodivi4A:10 a=koTfM3ZyQ9g8PwCkM4oA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50639] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id DE/E6-11114-D5A66905; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:15:09 -0500 From: "Dave Connitt" To: References: <1351999665.34238.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:22:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Value/restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I have to put in my .02 too on this. I think very few of us actually start out on our restoration thinking in the back of our minds we are actually going to create some kind of major investment bonanza. It's more along the lines of at some point in our lives, we see this really cool looking car and think, "someday I am going to own one of those". And, we start looking.. From then on it's pretty much a "target of opportunity" kind of situation. At that point, you find a car, you have enough money to buy it, and the car's condition is within what you think your range of restoration skills are at that moment. When you are "done", you still have the car, you are out of money, and your restoration skills are about 1000% more than when you started.. You go to your first show and a someone comes up to you and says something like, " Man, I always wanted one of those" and it start all over again.. Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS (Have the car, have some money left, I am pretty good at bodywork and paint now) http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 07:27:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A772D0C83 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:27:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A6B2D09BD for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:27:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so3694184pad.14 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3nIyJts8kN4EwqPRgEUcjkzeIwccZFFKvUw3u5UkdJc=; b=p580XoSg5F5V/drdvOypYWLrgnMA1FMI7mMr4m4zO4oo+0jO5QbEi8iOH1bc5fRSYk oUXprAI6rSLodWxKi4n3XoVFTgzk+UhefABumOzIGl5wqJnl+qTGXsrMt0RNqnji9/gG W0unE87L3Y79vhzgkK+C8krsyvBL0elY2nhZ9Sxa6ryqX/j/VEK2i1trDvfORzX7JpwV T0+u7yOQz1zQz5z9ul2r3dl5VloO7E1/OZO6FaPwW1yvhWdbSboo4ChFCYT6LYRMdXYd UQvT0MYfAHnmEZIUpukMxSF33/zWzBecc9YGd1wnREjLaLWZ7g55eLaxkVYdlv4gx97x tJOA== Received: by 10.66.85.69 with SMTP id f5mr20955223paz.50.1352039301121; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5sm9012519paz.32.2012.11.04.06.28.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:28:16 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1351999665.34238.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Value/restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/3/12 8:27 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > I tried to > keep a very accurate count of hours spent but this can be somewhat flexible. > I did not count time spent "sitting and thinking", reading up on procedures, > thinking through problems or consulting with experts. I came up with 1470 > hours. > > Adding up invoices came to a little over $15,000. I was just the opposite when I rebuilt my TR3. I purposely did not want to know what this folly of mine was costing me. Had I known I might well have gone without fixing some stuff because the project had become too expensive. Or perhaps found ways to do some things more cheaply. I had no idea what I was getting into and did my best to hide costs from myself. Even then the project almost didn't get finished if it were not for my extreme tenacity and and absolute refusal to give up. Since I had never done this kind of thing before I just assumed important parts of the car would drop off when I first started driving it, just because I didn't have much of a clue as to what I was doing. As it was there was only 2 problems. A headlight rim fell off and I drove over it when I first took it down the road and about a month or two later I had front wheel bearing issues because I set them up per the main part of the red book which was for front drum brake TRs and not to a supplement page at the back of the manual which was for disc brake cars. It took me several months before I would trust that the car would stay together if I put any stress on it under cornering. I had a hard time believing that I could take all the parts off a car and put parts back on and have the thing actually work. You ask about value. After the perspiration (women don't sweat we perspire), worry, anxiety and unknown lots of hours I put into my TR3 I would be totally daft if I were to ever sell it. If one day they decide I was too infirm to drive I could always sit behind the wheel as it sat in the garage and make put put noises as I try to remember throwing it through winding mountain roads. Of course everything I have is for sale. The current price for my TR3 is a mint condition TR250 plus US$35,000. I might also consider a trade of a DB4, XK120C or 250GTO plus cash for my 3. I value my time, blood, perspiration and tears highly. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 07:42:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414352D0C6C for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:42:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3342D0C09 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:35:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so3696353pad.14 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=17Iy53m9x+7o45TK3SXjjVrncJKaadktJVTcJKCF+FQ=; b=jHYNRqDjy3OJJhVEoCX/nWwzfgp4pz8EqU9RtN0m8CUcjRga/C4E7fsYcHoC8OIfbU dOkdzPU/vcO67Sr+mw+a2ptQa446ECpXkydIR3p5Doc+0WuqmQdcDWTMexAj2iKG2hAn c819+i05MF+DcIM/SUr7VIGqAh64GzYbsApfweBJz2WauYMPRiRQn76/TTebRLJ3js/W VsoKnVelotPdlUpR6KKXYwUiIfnj4AwXvXXuSHdS3fdfPgj6+B88dazAs6M+fVCq9WLx kCcebu6gHZAugEme+J/XYikiDbTYeBrHTLG9CHOVE3oTdviPN3ZQ0X0L2i8mTGWvF+9v 3TsA== Received: by 10.68.137.198 with SMTP id qk6mr22608253pbb.60.1352039789489; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-39-133.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.39.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uh10sm4242870pbc.35.2012.11.04.06.36.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:36:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:36:25 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1351999665.34238.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Value/restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/4/12 6:22 AM, Dave Connitt wrote: > You go to your first show and a someone comes up to you and says > something like, " Man, I always wanted one of those" and it start all > over again.. And after I give a price the next thing out of their mouth is "You want how much for it?" Followed by "Do you really expect someone to pay that much for it?" Silly boy to assume I actually want to sell the TR and am willing to set a price that I think anyone might be willing to pay for it. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 08:36:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261CB2D0C7D for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:36:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D715F2D0C68 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:08:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0C35038000070 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.250.175.160] (140.sub-174-255-112.myvzw.com [174.255.112.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id CDFBEE000139 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:09:46 -0500 (EST) References: From: Lawrence Schwartz Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 10:09:41 -0500 To: Triumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352041788; bh=XXH40CPcdRRonFbmokpDMQ453li32hV30SoEXgZbkks=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=TlAOrMex6PD1QHXO/ud9Fu2rlF3P6GKO28FgMKNkW5YCd6+8+JzzDP/cD6Nn45vtV 2mSUuIi1mrDYJ2dIb7nPECVfHqU3XvGowuqJAM31dA7BWX2apqCiPGWnB9M7GQ+bjN vvREmol8Hdw94oRUmzHkh8IhikRpbgf4sU8hpPJ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33835096853a6cef Subject: [TR] Fwd: Value/restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Lawrence Schwartz > Date: November 4, 2012, 7:14:37 AM EST > To: Gary Nafziger > Subject: Re: [TR] Value/restoration > > Gary, congratulations on approaching the finish line with the restoration of your 3. If you we're you count the hours by paying yourself the minimum wage per hour and your were forced to sell the car , you would break even. Larry Schwartz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > >> The thread concerning the worth of our cars came along at the same time I've >> been adding up my cost/hours (tr-3). I'm basically finished but still need to >> install the top/side curtains as well as buy new wheels/tires. >> >> I tried to >> keep a very accurate count of hours spent but this can be somewhat flexible. >> I did not count time spent "sitting and thinking", reading up on procedures, >> thinking through problems or consulting with experts. I came up with 1470 >> hours. >> >> Adding up invoices came to a little over $15,000. This included >> parts purchased as well as services such as engine machining (i took apart and >> assembled engine), chroming, glueing vinyl over 3 pieces of trim and final >> paint spray. Oh..........I didn't include the purchase of tools/equipment >> needed such as a MIG welder and sand blasting cabinet kit I made. >> >> This car >> was a VERY RATTY car. Probably a very borderline car to restore needing all >> new floors, inner and outer sills, all brackets holding car to frame as well >> as metal rotted out behind the brackets. It had the bottom 8 inches of both >> forward footwells rotted as well as that much of bottom front fenders. Rear >> fenders were good however trunk floor gone and very rear clip bashed in with >> loads of bondo. >> >> The final cost depends on what I feel my labor is worth. >> If I pay myself $1.00 an hour I'll have a restoration for less than $17,000. >> LOL Since this car will stay in the family forever the cost isn't a big >> concern. I was surprised at the hour total. This was an experience I can >> check off my bucket list and was one of the most interesting, frustrating, >> challenging and fun things I've done in years! And I'm also glad its done! >> gary n. >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/l1j1s@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 13:57:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242C82D0C41 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:57:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2249C2D0CF4 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:40:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so2663149wgb.20 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:42:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vEkjDUTZ1Kr5I3GqITKQS5fOmpZ5Vtl8v5dVMkOJh7c=; b=PMKRkkrK5T5f831oT9giiT4aNWD66w3Sn+4qeiAnjWbwdSFToKLwRFAzzZIDjOuNi+ UI8IBkfoMpysGHaref+ce9DNI5ORDwNLOnGb0Z+9geU9Y9kY/CePE7GDv1FZ3eMJhUGh JhUBdsoMrdTSLKmca5SEScPMzkuOa8ULRVsTCQtMJnt8A5j8Td0JltVByhnS0FlqX56o CkSQDatSy3llv5ktF1jzpnwPoyhWiNge6ii7BHGCeQRXriZN0Z7gsvs1QyDFX1PpEcJy Kh5FA8aq+K6qkflpTkM09OZUQIHMtjq9luM07Q00fSapV3c6PwbB9S4+hroSYtAimpKe DQDA== Received: by 10.180.93.136 with SMTP id cu8mr10292186wib.7.1352061721058; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:42:00 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I picked up a spare at the junkyard from a Nissan altima for ten bucks. Never used and in great shape. Tried it out on the 73 tr6 front and rear and seems to drive fine without spacers. Old spare was junk. I went back and bought two more for friends. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 4 14:59:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F152D0BE5 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 14:59:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351E02D0C42 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 14:42:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (64-252-187-192.adsl.snet.net [64.252.187.192]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdYhm-1T40dU3j4E-00i6Q2; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 16:43:33 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Chris Simo" , "list Triumph" References: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:43:41 -0500 nnC4xVjnr4RvMSrHJ/TrXAB/cqPWrXIaGkDisQkfpX+VomJQQr DotKRc5brCLANQEDlshA4JJrCxCyhYy3FmEsW78fp4H1vJKpcA C9Fq8AUSU5vTgx2C3us5QNHPz3MJ4MOpgeyiyMPczayOuh9H1H /9sineFEjLMxLhvZZhI/FKQIxkipzGUA2+0P56VhuOQPsBPbSU hSBeWTfm3OTdIEB5nh4E2UbAe/J3HEf9kCdM9obOkOJ0lPuD+y eIjs9uu30FPTfim3sz7NoXcEz/mOYxRvggvCD2fjM3kWSYI3up 5rRP6Y0yga1O+YGoa24HdQZoSjx1I5poQ2uGQqxcV Subject: Re: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Did that a few years back, as have a lot of the 6-Pack guys.......... there's a few tire SSS that will fit. I went with one from a 1990 - 1997 Honda Accord Wagon. Here in CT the going rate was $35. You can see how much space you gain in the trunk on my site here http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 3:42 PM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare I picked up a spare at the junkyard from a Nissan altima for ten bucks. Never used and in great shape. Tried it out on the 73 tr6 front and rear and seems to drive fine without spacers. Old spare was junk. I went back and bought two more for friends. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 07:33:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F2E2D0ACB for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:33:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994682D0B11 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:24:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so3335503qcq.14 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:25:59 -0800 (PST) h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=5MEwWAoava1rAuf54Ss4mtQ9sTKNRBSYDB2vr7tzuPo=; b=JHG5pjb01VOVGUUAhwNLPeVFhBAP/r9Oz0S2+CmSjNsDY9H/wZI87xmFoPdGzlyj96 aT447B4Wc+sfyOT4MW87O3ZBj8QNPjX7oXKnkvuFv9zYGGyIy1wTPIKHn0xGYhNWXsPe 9dbtfzZSiF6R9RonhP2Uf51tSH4YnhbfkKfYgcH6DXL0IF2RpHOrwmi0luoAPaEhdfw8 UocZlpGlSjSh74DMiXJC6VexDd3xJfHWqSfXDW1Aro7QT2+Gz0fgq1Ypn11aj8NFzLhd YIS5I5GzXIs3r0wfkaZcljOraV9mELh684nCR1fT+SRTj/wnAcHcyZhrZnsHgmwpDwS1 rJLA== Received: by 10.224.95.196 with SMTP id e4mr14954664qan.88.1352125559171; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.229.120.235] (61.sub-174-228-0.myvzw.com. [174.228.0.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gu9sm10173546qab.4.2012.11.05.06.25.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:25:58 -0800 (PST) References: From: Jim Henningsen Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:25:53 -0500 To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What year Nissan Altima? Would like to do same, but find a rubber tire that is not too old that might suffer from dry rot. Thanks, Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL 75 TR6 62 TR4 Sent from my iPad On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Chris Simo wrote: > I picked up a spare at the junkyard from a Nissan altima for ten bucks. > Never used and in great shape. > > Tried it out on the 73 tr6 front and rear and seems to drive fine without > spacers. > Old spare was junk. I went back and bought two more for friends. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 10:24:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBC2D0BE5 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:24:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D32D0B4D for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:04:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so3085291wgb.20 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:05:14 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=V1wucC0s1gBgSLTEj8eOQoiH1/3oUAcVh7z+Rz1CBjo=; b=vVFtbDEpPaldMCw7L5gpKNQcMSnUVH1SvTBNjXc1595wMu4Jww9KZ/afma4i0F9OMo 8IoTrMdlOyEZFLuDMylJTGzYHOJBMGP9KNF1TLsqdmziyd//VyF0U+/puOTRIupI5qTj zv0zYoX2Ra1m3ZjVk9iBAJ5Zw9+7PnZcYTim4LehLq6ViW3a2GKoALEsuLyrlnsZNiI4 9R7XBd8VXA5nHgpdbvSkuJv8+S9XUc4yzQvXSrH6ORj+HwlCWkXvCVXQgSmqIXAbYkrs J2J3AtrwWa+3MJJFGBMqCaYlXH/hzdaKaFTzs3veeAPgWUrIys0iDEv5JCRc3NPr8KMS 928g== Received: by 10.216.225.142 with SMTP id z14mr3485526wep.38.1352135114114; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:04:52 -0800 (PST) References: <5097e9b4.c5d1440a.36a5.ffffdcd2SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:04:52 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I put the entire altima rim and wheel on the car - it cleared the disc brake calipier and suspension just fine. I think the Altima's were in the 2001 time frame. I think later ones use 5 lugs. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 5 12:14:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FAC2D0C7A for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:14:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9262A2D0B64 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Krf41k0081eYJf8AFv1526; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:01:05 +0000 Received: from [10.230.81.154] ([174.228.71.202]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Kv0t1k00U4Mrd0W01v0wbz; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:01:03 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Q2hyaXMgU2ltbw==?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?bGlzdCBUcml1bXBo?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:01:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Tr6_space_saver_spare?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: "list Triumph" Subject: [TR] Tr6 space saver spare Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:04 I put the entire altima rim and wheel on the car - it cleared the disc brake calipier and suspension just fine. I think the Altima's were in the 2001 time frame. I think later ones use 5 lugs. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 08:56:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6252D0B60 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:56:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC732D0B08 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:26:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id c11so477216qad.14 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:27:20 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:subject:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=CRZzLSspt4bCrx99qXje/KiHwTu+ncvsmjTkFHkfJQ0=; b=LVMdeauov4R+/qgNlVn9A6SwFCNgQWIV0HKYhs/sM9RDnfWhXbUcmb6U97QEKLuH7F +Y8BErVERaYI3MwxIcBO5QFaRPHQJD/0SVYvUwU23rFanNo7HD4DyDxkjx5dlrHfgqnF 1P2BFMVHIiQNjbBbtwhPPnYU33GSj3oJyHEKPHLuRXIRovB+veaKAllKvM58LDWVKZi1 QqrZaOe0YZFL+9ozFbZTkpEWkIANIzJZNnMz4BfiQf57FtHvO72fIb7/07kE2I9pxTMa 2rghN+5n3erx0/fThdfcJjn9yVF+5iUJhrv1Wt2mbJmMsWSZpV3Ef94fjeQekNDACe2s llQA== Received: by 10.224.42.136 with SMTP id s8mr2097853qae.82.1352215640432; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (adsl-98-84-140-180.gsp.bellsouth.net. [98.84.140.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f12sm10710099qey.5.2012.11.06.07.27.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:27:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:27:17 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Gaines To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] picture of TR6 Boss Frog roll bar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I wrote the list a couple of weeks ago about my interest in mounting a Boss Frog roll bar to my TR6 and then welding the back plates to the frame to provide strength to the set up. However, I have been able to find only two pictures of the installed bar at the Boss Frog site and one other elsewhere, and none of them shows clearly how much clearance there is between the bar and the seats. I don't want to be bopping the back of my head while driving; I do that enough when I'm underneath it! I'm wondering if anyone on the list has a picture or a description of the bar and seat arrangement you could send me off list or maybe a web site url. Thanks, Tim Gaines Clinton, SC 1974 TR6 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 09:26:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ECF2D0CF7 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:26:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9702D0A37 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:06:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 16:07:41 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.99] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 16:07:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Nov 2012 16:07:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 55864 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2012 16:07:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352218061; bh=d0qA20g/mwvMD/38PELnlAirPNJ6MIEwxac+EXyGT9w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WLORM2tkUGhUBsLDrW8SG18OEIpmef2XEsF+aUYLVE1htm10NebTZXqVMV0/WwI4eTkCmD2JMxtdMGmG67Q4IYiFMOgGtYRecyCSJbv2TFgl1DMr8TkLdEsENIe5s82aq7qVSfjHT98xXwr/qm9/EgysBfgdwuvPTgNUusCJvoA= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rfDhiaBJF/4A6oQget9ydg/HJCNCNxfOxur+NpA2cMKO9FCo97Vm0dN9SPwBaOMdbYjeLSA4LPYMQU5zmOAQ18V2uOjxzEDgt3fPitHDS+QxEnPrLUngIvwvnLkHruknNU0uAW0ibgPrHEv97Pr0AWN0EMixuBTFtnSRHn3/mWw=; VK1zwan3XRvfEdrbIHzrstTkoKLnt861oUDhHPRnTQ.vcSMZ3LG6rrsdt9eI nPZT170S6jM6ByFOTIiP3OX0xmv7eNhgRkSVhi_NwTuD0O2282ThrmmUoHFc T20flLhaePITAa9zYbDVKIWt6jBufwIW2LnmmeA0R_3KxnD9xaFxwhniIxGW WplqcPkZbIvNKJvpVM3TzX74G1M8SCbLFW6xFF22iwSVcYmzbEDcynEHjujL rYHa59LF6ALb9u.o35gZDlh0YCquuMiOHLeb1hzSTWzAhRceMIHFBKmkOjF4 B3amfv7aTEGuhJA1SQUkY9AjLjYjWCHFNa6JVl2s6rLnUjHWTCHhv_DlJY3H KjRiCwfTmAWIgSgdnsHskr2yGI.tp04QByM0QtQPkpSTwUkAIv6BzZ22m6FI v1F7_prfBY4dxsiGFECC4Vr_f9iLKzvI_OOIOpKjVYWFC2QkPeaRYqD7ZpUO cYzf.M2JhfQcc4ixhAnXqvcLxUFWfLm.vmhXUqxATzv0mNLnGdw4AHeEbrXg kWVUCiXco.5mFRQ-- Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:07:41 PST wqDCoMKgwqAgU28gdG9kYXkgaXMgdGhlIGxhc3QgZGF5IG9mIGdvb2Qgcm9hZHN0ZXIgd2VhdGhlciBmb3IgYXdoaWxlIGluIFRlaGFjaGFwaSAoc291dGhlcm4gU2llcnJhIE5ldmFkYXMpLiBEcml2aW5nIHRvIHdvcmsgdGhpcyBtb3JuaW5nIGluIG15IFRSM0EsIGEgd2lyZSBmZWxsIGRvd24gZnJvbSB1bmRlciB0aGUgZGFzaC4gSSB3ZW50IHRvIGFkdmFuY2VhdXRvd2lyZS5jb20gYW5kIHByaW50ZWQgYSBzY2hlbWF0aWMgYW5kIGl0IHNob3dzIHRoYXQgdGhpcyByZWQvcmVkJmdyZWVuIHdpcmUgd2l0aCABMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 08:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 Tail Lamp Wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So today is the last day of good roadster weather for awhile in Tehachapi (southern Sierra Nevadas). Driving to work this morning in my TR3A, a wire fell down from under the dash. I went to advanceautowire.com and printed a schematic and it shows that this red/red&green wire with an inline fuse in the middle is the wiring between the lighting switch and the panel light switch. Sure enough, I don't have tail lights now and have to drive home in the dark. I'll fix it at lunch. My question is, ISTR that I have done this before, several times in 21 years of driving this car. Is there a way to make it permanent? It seems like it needs stress relief. I was thinking of soldering on a sleeve onto the end that is already pre-bent to the proper angle so the wire hangs at the proper angle. Or maybe after mounting the wires they need to be supported better so they don't flop around. Any ideas? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 13:37:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C222D0CF0 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:37:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71962D0A35 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:16:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA6KHB3A009178 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:17:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-98-204-234-168.hsd1.md.comcast.net [98.204.234.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0FC94E000147 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:17:11 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Evans To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:17:10 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352233031; bh=YXqS5LubA/jg9N7NNSwYzvQkwnqKv3k90IpKyKGhLLk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=v0TEL1a0+Kwp4WBvs9yjufPoEDFUPefrDoPOWDgD60GYpc80UDvJhHG3ssfQYdCqQ iUVXLCssBV5E7s1d7tNXV9z0Zi4J/g0N+FNuI2dMzntjf26DK2unU6Jqm+TANqvPo/ 6J/WXnRe96SMNVlsYgHCpQnbPI46OsdWexEExWy0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338350997046437d Subject: [TR] Barrett Triumph Repair in MD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, Has anyone else had dealings with Barret of England located in Kensington Maryland? My TR6 has been there now for a basic carb tuneup & differential gear checkup since August 20th. This guy is impossible to get on the phone or at the shop. Steve ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 15:09:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322972D0B60 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:09:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7E2D0B20 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:49:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from vms170015pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MD300KB060ELTV3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:50:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from 96.255.159.154 ([96.255.159.154]) by vms170015 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:50:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:50:38 -0600 (CST) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Barrett Triumph Repair in MD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No, but he sounds like someone I know in Fairfax. Go pickup the car, over 2 months is just criminal. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 On 11/06/12, Steven Evans wrote: Hi All, Has anyone else had dealings with Barret of England located in Kensington Maryland? My TR6 has been there now for a basic carb tuneup & differential gear checkup since August 20th. This guy is impossible to get on the phone or at the shop. Steve ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 15:23:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D2C2D0CCE for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:23:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5BA2D07B2 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:58:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MD300MZC6EM2ZS0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:59:11 -0600 (CST) From: "ptegler" To: "Steven Evans" , References: Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:59:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Barrett Triumph Repair in MD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ...have lived in this area for 50+ years.... have never even heard of them.... not even in show field flyers at car events. sorry Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Evans" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: [TR] Barrett Triumph Repair in MD > Hi All, > Has anyone else had dealings with Barret of England located in Kensington > Maryland? My TR6 has been there now for a basic carb tuneup & > differential gear checkup since August 20th. This guy is impossible to > get on the phone or at the shop. > Steve > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 6 17:10:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0582D03B4 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:10:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7CB2D0A49 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:54:30 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=67-uPv1O9xsA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=vrjV5B4xAAAA:20 a=tjD_OtKeAAAA:20 a=Zisl0XPlSFoss8BzAYYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ZUyYQP4XxTsA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:48545] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 1B/92-01425-E73A9905; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:55:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 18:55:42 -0500 From: Randall To: William Brewer , Triumphs Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Tail Lamp Wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- William Brewer wrote: > My question is, ISTR that I have done this before, > several times in 21 years of driving this car. Is there a way to make it > permanent? Was the fuse holder mounted in its clip? Was the wire perhaps pulled too tight? One thing that seemed to help was to add a short length of heat shrink tubing across the end of the original insulation and slightly out onto the bare wire. You can see a sample at http://goo.gl/Ncp5V Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 06:06:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6034B2D097A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:06:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF66B2D0992 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:46:48 -0700 (MST) a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=D5HH5mBpWgsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=cM1xBvwgA_AA:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=o26ogkYAmR3RRe2r9vgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:51345] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A1/9C-20885-0885A905; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:48:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:48:05 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] battery shutoff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if the battery shutoff shown in this ebay add is available for the positive post? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR2-TR3-TR3A-TR3B-TR4-TR4a-MG-Healy-battery-shut-off-/300806885656?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46097cd118&vxp=mtr I would like to get one for both my 3 and 4. I have one for my 6 that I got at a FLAPS but I cannot find one for the positive post. Real handy when working on the car. Thanks, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 06:53:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009802D0D45 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:53:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AA0A22D0D2A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:34:22 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1352295334; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=e9Mb69Zqg4s4FLZZit7thqlJIa4Ljed01REWhXT2PLuKU883XAvnyqv+fgsicT/SU YAhkNh6IoE97aNSC5P6yZJ2yz0T2z7iEjwM8nj1XpXhj3v1TNWP4c6yjiH/JMbts9M B4XNx94TXu21xv2UPKztPLH1vWuT7dgk8S/4xgNI= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.142]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJKW25QAPVEX5A for (sender ); Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.214.163.54] by webmail02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:33:20 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:33:20 GMT To: yellowtr@adelphia.net Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] battery shutoff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have seen these at the local Walmart recently.Didn't look to see what post they were for. MB ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Bob Labuz To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] battery shutoff Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:48:05 -0500 Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows if the battery shutoff shown in this ebay add is available for the positive post? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR2-TR3-TR3A-TR3B-TR4-TR4a-MG-Healy-battery-s hut-off-/300806885656?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46097cd 118&vxp=mtr I would like to get one for both my 3 and 4. I have one for my 6 that I got at a FLAPS but I cannot find one for the positive post. Real handy when working on the car. Thanks, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mbarre@juno.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:10:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD47B2D0D41 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:10:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED1C2D0CE7 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:45:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm18.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 13:46:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.9] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 13:46:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 13:46:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13244 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2012 13:46:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352295984; bh=sCfBo7IuBdNYCSjDVzv/arFf1fUoUPToxhPMLIVrMcA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ht/8ogQh9W9TVefOigB8y+bua0+40vjHhHF92QdLSHAH2kltKaOQ13HMATLagEBx+SVWJ/BwvgKKQPdsnvaIZVAYREdeu5jH9ZiRQtQbeXvjPEuRgOpE14KPeXr7dpiBU96/714hhfOGjFbTlgpSQCJOeCDG43+MH2cqH+NHQNk= _Dht5qQ.aWSl.f6l9Y9cAm6PJuvRMhq.d0xQM0CeFJCqXt4VH918IXPMUguF yYNBHceQbRvTfL7PIduxulJDK_SE3Re_eGOS_DT23j9ZYSjUCPtnJ_bM.c2y 92IVks39dtWvaGNXU3j4xIWcAJ1W4e2nKObXbSY_3AHJz3fVCsG.I7B.uCN7 TjkM6EZdIW94ghQqdfntBUkt7p1vV.QsZO0c68GhOZK5BWGpw8mZuhQabo62 Kb8xuE3djbbJPwzojWyaTsohzaD.zSFsFVKM_2czMS1bNGTtvfH05zBgTONc WnPTItpNbAPPaLDYCZxVTPd1Aw.kUizzzpHilt82q2xB7YZ6WpBestrEGvjK WgX05lCqJ5Dqz6nOqtYANVxsX9QTKeGsmXrIY87kP5AmQCeJcAhItCFv_lWU tqJfDGOCs5eKrGVTw8Htf Received: from [74.212.52.98] by web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 05:46:24 PST RG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyBob3cgSSBjYW4gZ2V0IGEgc3RlbmNpbCBmb3IgdGhlIFRyaXVtcGggbGV0dGVycyBvbiBteSB0cjNhP8KgIEkgaGF2ZSBoYWQgdG8gZG8gZXh0ZW5zaXZlIHdvcmsgb24gbXkgYXByb24gd2hpY2ggSSBhbSBzdXJlIHdhcyBpbiBzb21lIHNvcnQgb2YgZmVuZGVyIGJlbmRlciBhbiBzb21lb25lIHJlYWxseSBib3RjaGVkIHRoZSByZXBhaXIKwqAKVElBCkZyZWQKVFM1NzAzOCBpcyBtaW5lATABAQEB Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 05:46:24 -0800 (PST) From: "oldpine47@frontiernet.net" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR3A Front cowl letter placement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know how I can get a stencil for the Triumph letters on my tr3a? I have had to do extensive work on my apron which I am sure was in some sort of fender bender an someone really botched the repair TIA Fred TS57038 is mine ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 07:57:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019BC2D09FE for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:57:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B042D0D44 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:33:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 14:34:34 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.123] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 14:34:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 14:34:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 48871 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2012 14:34:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352298874; bh=2U8MXjLym9ar2DnSab65STLqZmyEFwnataYCqfTs6jE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l7bZN+CY7NhKHIZ94fHdMzJ3NOIamipK47ClGGME5mKOjDM4WegZOhwSPHFufoV6Jq3pW/Twqn7hMs/Oklpahh6x/PHqCm0RaY1xnoUJxQpN0tgGtV06A37qKt5NRkzzmHkoVIkBGiC+hV1TXxYjexfDRsiEvJOh9kbtKxuW1i4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KEbu4dh7IfFC3N0OsR4Z2xDxMFekFDwTLMQA6P94sk8FyF1Vjn5cm0wLOj9NsFBxol3m3c0mYLqZRmWlpXbHCaVrwWAe/Ii8DeSrMCfnLHmAdy3p7dWDPd2Ql00iMRKHWxPem7CLvZLupsE1rbdYzOHlB7NUfwWtzee61uVEXWk=; FgBgbEaAxDmrt0YDe6WtphGRddfe0MDtWDqtf4r9CmWvV31dg09Am7Af8VWv tb6N6eRP2sydJYiQxUJ82TW2G2g9MKK0s7j_QybH7lBgHh95oIBFg4dV2lcQ Ma4B6i9OgYz996ag5eQKjPcvxu3xwXdFlaMi3S7CtaApfF_SHFafWqc3BWot 0g6ivkFc6tjeFo69laPPj9j4_b3uYxokgIqOF8tzoPZYGVzkgL4CSU6X5OaC 0AkZAajK53fEcRUApxNfOaUuLnTnJtNEJPkBTPHFWY1ds7yUfAP.nF00IJJn UBWswpNsBpV.g_Sz5CSaDo_.17IM2PLHdjXBjzVeJck2t0QsYzPjhdAdJqwJ gEWYV4cA2Swqlv6I00Ph3No8lM272WryPjV8AClqLtJxa7SLa7IdARKwz5oh jl8H6G7wRJ30QqCJb8APOI5gyY9a7DT0RkmxdGnvpg00G1B5Qx7nW_BZTV6G BrLaFm4qi7_1jBiTdRHCOd81Xe4pOFBY3nDRmeLRBh5BtHv2ykpfmYbpXTVz D_Wbgn0SRrbwNwoaWgZwtywBUq9aTUngFAdJaLFLVgYc7YEwH8y5X9.jyjE6 4F_5AG_c1TCY.RsC2wQrQsoz2OCSRkchSrhXjLpV0bOy0Qo7LIfr4uosr8Kl l465hJb8_Ht2_sMGBz80n_54W4oTaBj7vKArqiGJe0g5I_htV1SBQDOXoEtO FHSzJ6uALVJXr50JYJyvSztxBOUrsxDvYSeD4R.a_IZTqtAp_esCpx.LLN9k oxBEIAyMZWFwYLhA3eg_6xb1sEn2v0PRfea_OrUa2ZqKpJLinIxYA3GdUhYO f_CDoSbiYkYBQJOATOu08mO7HEMHjEVIF5MK5PBkU.TbH8iULkD8- Received: from [90.199.100.206] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 14:34:34 GMT SGksIEJvYgrCoApZb3UgbWlnaHQgZmluZCB0aGUgdmFyaW91cyBzd2l0Y2hlcyBpbGx1c3RyYXRlZCBvbiB0aGUgdG9wIGxpbmUgb2YgaW1hZ2VzIHRvIGJlIHdvcnRoeSBvZiBjb25zaWRlcmF0aW9uPyBUaGUgb25lIG9uIHRoZSBMSCBzaWRlIHdpdGggdGhlIHJlZCBrZXkgaXMgaWRlbnRpY2FsIHRvIHRoZSBvbmUgSSBoYXZlIG9uIG15IHRyYWlsZXIgaG9tZS4gSXQncyB0aGUgbWFzdGVyIHN3aXRjaCBmb3IgdGhlIHR3byBtb3RvcnMgdGhhdCBvcGVyYXRlIHRoZSBtb3RvcnMgb24gdGhlIHRyYWlsZXIgd2gBMAEBAQE- References: <509A5885.7070702@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:34:34 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Bob Labuz , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] battery shutoff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Bob You might find the various switches illustrated on the top line of images to be worthy of consideration? The one on the LH side with the red key is identical to the one I have on my trailer home. It's the master switch for the two motors that operate the motors on the trailer wheels for parking without the tow vehicle. Good for about 110 amps. The Lucas replica, though costly, is identical to the switch that was a Standard-Triumph approved part. Means drilling the car so the ON/OFF knob is accessible from inside the cockpit. Will easily cope with cold cranking loads but neat and highly 'original' if that's your leaning? NFI etc http://www.retroclassiccarparts.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=12 5&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=155&vmcchk=1&Itemid=155 Jonmac >________________________________ > From: Bob Labuz >To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" >Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2012, 12:48 >Subject: [TR] battery shutoff > >Hi, > >I was wondering if anyone knows if the battery shutoff shown in this ebay add is available for the positive post? > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR2-TR3-TR3A-TR3B-TR4-TR4a-MG-Healy-battery- shut-off-/300806885656?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46097c d118&vxp=mtr > >I would like to get one for both my 3 and 4. > >I have one for my 6 that I got at a FLAPS but I cannot find one for the positive post. > >Real handy when working on the car. > >Thanks, > >Bob > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 08:15:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB322D0D59 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:15:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28EE2D0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:47:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so3085165ied.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:48:32 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Vfu3LVkggOje2YJV1Z1KF/XVK4MQAqx3YhrCKrNyRMM=; b=ciMdUdwGdn6Yl1wmcQzNOJSLXygPRcKCYOYXjyZAmk9s15As0BvPo5eBNfj7xGxZkb 6+FH84mYXOFCR6l3Tt2q6fjjHpq6IlemXLM4jTOVlMI7dG+Bm4IZ7reVdy/H3QVSDdtZ Kpd5XdU1LchKIOOnUcCGoCILMy2lRMC/ntPhzZDUXvfCGturgtIfeU0YvVXPQjRfzOgk 7h2ptbgS9LwNscINC5pT3heWFgpyRSlhOeTiHzHhPN5gsWn79hqVabhcomH7p04VvRhl EBn0ymZgeNoRtmqsVx4gH2OOyz/WILIFg0+bRgr1sID24p9gjcOjHjJUSVEPjk0a2gAx ImZw== Received: by 10.42.247.136 with SMTP id mc8mr4218246icb.36.1352299712612; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 06:48:32 -0800 (PST) References: <509A5885.7070702@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:48:32 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Bob Labuz Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] battery shutoff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW -- I just keep the ground post loose enough that the terminal can be pulled off (with a light twist. With a nice clean post and connector I've never had a problem with charging, etc. That 'quick disconnect' has saved me a couple of times and, as you say, disconnecting it really Step 1 in many procedures. Geo On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Bob Labuz wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone knows if the battery shutoff shown in this ebay > add is available for the positive post? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 08:27:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867F82D0D43 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:27:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 89AAC2D0D4C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:00:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 18461 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2012 15:00:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.109.219) by p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.90) with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2012 15:00:51 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:00:54 -0500 Thread-Index: AQC//Zx2I6bxU3q/ULMw5WYmNEs8JZn58qMA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Front cowl letter placement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Did all the holes get welded up? There was a change somewhere between TS 50,000 and 70,000 where they went from ribbed letters to smooth letters. I have an early apron with holes for the ribbed letters. I also have a 70,000 parts car with smooth letters, but they are in a straight line. Wasn't the "TRIUMPH" with smooth letters slightly curved like a smile? I am wondering if it is an earlier hood and someone just put the smooth letters in it. Bottom line - I can take a piece of paper out to the early hood and mark the holes if that is what you want. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oldpine47@frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:46 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A Front cowl letter placement Does anyone know how I can get a stencil for the Triumph letters on my tr3a? I have had to do extensive work on my apron which I am sure was in some sort of fender bender an someone really botched the repair TIA Fred TS57038 is mine ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 08:57:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404A02D0D53 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:57:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D762D0C58 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:34:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 15:36:05 -0000 Received: from [68.142.198.200] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 15:36:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2012 15:36:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352302565; bh=sXJNQRN/NoPuxmiTjDQkEDbYWDseU7ZBrDEHwZx8qo0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=JGj1/3lSQLLHiMJSqO3Ux5i9vl8VT6aNnn/jzTEdA78Xb4vbAZuwz3dG/Wi1k1etFNqex1SrKtY+NtvKdEkveIGKk01zkBt8G4AaPmZEqoj62VEFbbGyjUaHkbE6D3p0fX7JCkwgCj6hveA9nCdQTrvwiSEqF+61R+p2bwV/+S0= BRgRXeoPatK5ffxI4HAKtmH1rCd7bGlhXMqfxQEfKimkw4S1PEAeN5ERcdRp XGEODMqmPbztesR.2itzQQabznIMAtk3e2FsMmFNcONwFuN1rndEhB4nFKwi sfoQSF.H.9o5hVJ8PPboPsKr_AtQTiNa2XcXrPHbQteEJ4_0zd7WsCjkB7TR FU9MdlOyHp1KShZr3ylOsGyXayagR.kFptfZzW2uhcXfLUnhGbZuVwZ9vxVP _qideq0CmEvJM1Y0P4dyIYBRJdung8LyJ44ALq0D72gHZM7YiJHfSOxogTwA 7mFuLz__yDgyU_n5d4ydoGp2mj3_yB0c8zsQ.2DuviTN_blxmLyQtqgBGNQo 5HDiHM2dZ0sn8tvSSriF5P81ZOA9UVUg2TcZiLWqopQ2d4.CWjPwzO9a_B6p AJxZXNEARgU9exa6oKz0cOqBxc5BtEHZQLBtnpKXasrjq7RSRdQX_pLJVByu zEsEAtG5IqWxmIrO_iQIpVu9bChY- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Nov 2012 07:36:05 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:35:54 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac288eWr6AozLstPT+GM1nFCvMDKrAACxV5w Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Front cowl letter placement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You may have done this, but did you look on the backside to see if the holes of visible from there? Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oldpine47@frontiernet.net Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:46 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A Front cowl letter placement Does anyone know how I can get a stencil for the Triumph letters on my tr3a? I have had to do extensive work on my apron which I am sure was in some sort of fender bender an someone really botched the repair TIA Fred TS57038 is mine ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 09:14:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917F92D0D9E for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:14:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D12D0D2E for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ed3so863492wgb.20 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:49:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=sa0S0im0ojcz4kCiudTCCOqyPunHkiSxbnWlnQNFROU=; b=0r3cPmYdDDXG0nRvKAPYnQd2zWdNZxQwMRPgc2sGZE5jelhxN08EOsZLSBSPnehfvR 2dIPGqsY+BSSpAM9i57CSE9NRvBLGxDSfulT9jSwnQ9qiGqcGpp8V7DqtkUvDM4FH/5W tqNB/lL3XF+XhO0xCGG2+X32NvjwwT70YvMNT4NohA8ZjykYx/+7JUMpBfr63nvHlJIz 6Mxmzxjw45o+C8S3sK6xFaxjlXL9R1Kc53HBRTqEFKmpJRUGZ9mAurViChPz4XAjQlaA TsxG3IsotZas0ZIPQx7aVzailBinsFnu8qm8c/G5PDxlZaDRX2aqDstFievJfyfNhqAp Eo9g== Received: by 10.180.103.201 with SMTP id fy9mr8439003wib.10.1352303393888; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:49:33 -0800 (PST) References: <509A5885.7070702@adelphia.net> From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:49:33 -0500 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] battery shutoff Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had an issue trying to get the battery cut off switch to connect to my cables. The cable end would not grip the cut off switch post. I ended up using a battery cap shim on the battery cut off switch. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Lynx-Battery-post-shim/_/N-25hn?itemIdentifier=257147_0_0 _ It was on a TR4 that had been coverted to negative ground - so myproblems were likely self inflicted. All battery terminal cut off switches are not created equal. I have to fully disconnect the one I got from tractor supply while the ones I bougth from moss only require a spin or two to disconnect. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 14:28:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF0C2D0BDC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:28:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3422D083D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:08:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ldlg1k0061smiN4A3lA3re; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:03 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LlA21k0152xZMJ48glA2Sj; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:10:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:10:02 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] 2013 VTR presentation? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Was there at the 2012 VTR convention the usual presentation for next year's VTR convention? Did it contain exact location and date information? Did it contain a video? Can this video be seen online anywhere? Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 16:58:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E8F2D0C5C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:58:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB8A2D09E2 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:29:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6AC95380000D1; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.205]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B66B7E000098; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:30:44 -0500 (EST) References: <2372342.132444.1352322602755.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: pethier@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-m073.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.31) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:30:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:30:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352331045; bh=HkCclDohX1bL+2u70ATWhknYCwseiQdKWuU6O/f2iAU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jn4orJNKjNyMr/M6r9Si8YjZJ8I6UhPFm71wamrobj9Ks7YZ3dYPK5x8cOmLK7ROp BIhcCUA3nRYAkhU7Gkdk0655VajqZpZIR/bj85L0D2y+cCNh2fYsX/Tf5mfhdPxB6f cd22CB81hWvJE4p8O4y4Qoi7g52ZIe/XEz5isYXQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9509aef24462c Subject: Re: [TR] 2013 VTR presentation? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try http://www.mossmotoring.com/ai1ec_event/triumphest-vtr-national-2013/?instanc e_id= Was there at the 2012 VTR convention the usual presentation for next year's VTR convention? Did it contain exact location and date information? Did it contain a video? Can this video be seen online anywhere? Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 17:16:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2BB2D0CCF for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:16:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CAA2D0A37 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:53:14 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Rb-MqPjvvzoRXQhYqAgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54247] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 76/D9-19216-3B4FA905; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:54:27 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 17:54:30 -0600 Subject: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net British Car Forum, which I know some of you listers frequent in addition to Mark's fine listserv here, dropped of the face of the earth, er, web, sometime late last night, anybody have a clue why? Off topic political discussion out of hand and Basil pulled the plug? Technical Difficulties? Cyber attack from the French or German Car Forums? Anybody have any clue or heard anything? Regards, Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 18:47:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D582D0D85 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:47:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61A52D0D7A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:21:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Lgk61k00G0cQ2SLACpP8NZ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:23:08 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LpP81k00F2xZMJ48WpP8Ai; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:23:08 +0000 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 01:23:08 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Dave Massey Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] VTR / Triumphest in San Rafael California Oct 2-6 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Triumphest / VTR National 2013 October 2, 2013 b October 6, 2013 Embassy Suites 101 McInnis Pkwy San Rafael,CA 94903 USA Contact: Bryant Paulsen 510-579-1228 bpau259262@aol.com Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 19:03:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506182D0D8C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:03:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB2A2D0D54 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:34:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (64-252-187-192.adsl.snet.net [64.252.187.192]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MAxqe-1TgCeJ2QS4-00AAPE; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:35:54 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Greg Lemon" , References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <53D1BEE36B6A4E73BA31226912F5480E@GregPC> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:35:53 -0500 998360GxWcHbTXDRL+04bRgLIje2MnBe0/6O5zhCVXe9qXiZop mrSdSmPUdYTi70ViR/E1iqVDQkXsqI+sCIS6GSXpeAT4qwT7oa 2mBIa8jy2FAYRG3WY1h/tpTaiCMXKyJBxWQsaSqX0M4HNgInNt 5JCMnNB1h/UslmUXIX+yERHIsM0fNHClrk9e9Kkm/fvU0EPCIu GR9eY/BVd20UY+tVlupl6mbDJgtRbnS04V/KF5TzJD24gY+PXc ym2nxGtxHIrCJTvmE6dTMXaqwASnJvWO3+OpkJTxPFLqwqbWzL xMNHUfPIzq9hpnfnJX7jrxuUgDXlzZbxO6BkUXtE0 Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 404 error here too......... no BCF Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lemon Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 6:54 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] BCF? British Car Forum, which I know some of you listers frequent in addition to Mark's fine listserv here, dropped of the face of the earth, er, web, sometime late last night, anybody have a clue why? Off topic political discussion out of hand and Basil pulled the plug? Technical Difficulties? Cyber attack from the French or German Car Forums? Anybody have any clue or heard anything? Regards, Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 19:33:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB302D0DAB for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:33:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCA02C1786 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:10:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id p5so2157531lag.14 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:11:37 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PO7YUZcVyW+3zVNBCVnsW2xCoNMxXYQW6Ymcr911IvM=; b=BIAoTShp27c31WgGG3NMl4ReG1b3wf8SdMfEfnyWBM8+Rjv4aYvq+2TPS2GVdJkdbv jbOkgIMEjaUeqbeUu7iJ2YYB5NviK1h9VXXhukrTwbUAoYwqBMRKjWJhnNvBb5xSQGk+ TcXw8HTJGC5x05ERWe4wOmBEnv+e0AUjOKgs8NaBVgrXMxEoPH0UTlO33JUbBXiwxMcu GCfLZ2RSKiNuj3RrX1ZOuElWzJlVlQ4lN4BG3XBtsUXbm8bHUIzxSgQbgiiMbBF5K8kD n/gZEeUuImTDJzy3IeFRnJmV6EHJmFNdmfmXHGcn3uCRqPUqvkDCxrI6ZLZJwm6dhFLQ VrBQ== Received: by 10.112.102.130 with SMTP id fo2mr59192lbb.35.1352340697001; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 18:11:36 -0800 (PST) References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <53D1BEE36B6A4E73BA31226912F5480E@GregPC> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:11:36 -0600 From: Don Hiscock To: Bob <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There's a little bit of BCF online, but not much... http://www.britishcarforum.com/about_us.html On 11/7/12, Bob <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> wrote: > 404 error here too......... no BCF > > Bob > > > Bob Danielson > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ > > 1975 TR6 modified with: > -Throttle Body Injection > -Toyota 5 Speed > -Nissan Differential > -AAW Wire Harness > -CVJs... and more > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 6:54 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] BCF? > > British Car Forum, which I know some of you listers frequent in addition to > Mark's fine listserv here, dropped of the face of the earth, er, web, > sometime late last night, anybody have a clue why? > > Off topic political discussion out of hand and Basil pulled the plug? > > Technical Difficulties? > > Cyber attack from the French or German Car Forums? > > Anybody have any clue or heard anything? > > Regards, Greg Lemon > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 19:53:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00F62D0EA6 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:53:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from trapper.whspn.net (trapper.whspn.net [64.119.182.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAAE2D09E4 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:21:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from pool-71-166-48-218.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net ([71.166.48.218]:52412 helo=AldwynsLaptop) by trapper.whspn.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TWHlQ-0003ta-2r for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:22:40 -0700 From: "Aldwyn" To: References: <1352295984.93516.YahooMailNeo@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <53D1BEE36B6A4E73BA31226912F5480E@GregPC> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:22:38 -0500 Thread-Index: AQC//Zx2I6bxU3q/ULMw5WYmNEs8JQG8/OWaAY6qQPICLjvZM5nO5FYA Content-Language: en-us with any abuse report Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It was running off of Lucas electronics. BCF is now waiting for a new wiring harness! :D > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:36 PM > To: Greg Lemon; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? > > 404 error here too......... no BCF > > Bob > > > Bob Danielson > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ > > 1975 TR6 modified with: > -Throttle Body Injection > -Toyota 5 Speed > -Nissan Differential > -AAW Wire Harness > -CVJs... and more > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 6:54 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] BCF? > > British Car Forum, which I know some of you listers frequent in addition to > Mark's fine listserv here, dropped of the face of the earth, er, web, > sometime late last night, anybody have a clue why? > > Off topic political discussion out of hand and Basil pulled the plug? > > Technical Difficulties? > > Cyber attack from the French or German Car Forums? > > Anybody have any clue or heard anything? > > Regards, Greg Lemon > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfam > ily.org > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aldwyn@sylvancircle.or > g ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 20:37:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D712D0E08 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:37:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141142D0854 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 20:10:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 03:11:16 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 03:11:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 03:11:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 99681 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2012 03:11:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352344276; bh=+FO8zavTWNPDWyMas2YrS0CBZ/tXMvSMi2+/bCsbxLs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jUW384KkGJ8KYDJTctSm7xL9e4ctWYT+47iSYj+9u72T6O/TyZBdqVxSXTBMk6AlcYDfdxbbUcRBJLZAOJ99Ngit2FGfIou+YUwse8uEj68m6eC9dplGu1fFWFApAzXznt3dhzvcbYHH3OE6/Stn5ImLClFgOsFlR0Rq+ge5pB4= s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yDCYpA3XyEnBHIiblm9PeZ+beK3gML+uJEfXW647SGj5fIr0/CCH4WXR2Wp0IobGejcFPPThVfVyAUczSVJL8TOzd51FjkaFf0DcYUeKq1Ngf51UUftVre3B2xaLQq785fxht2O6naUNSVIuM0mpb/fLOCizWAM0GCI9q0SfyOs=; gAvEFr2DgbZiJJBdi0MM2OlebizqrYhU9Nu96h8YHv6_WZtG2fsMFOmLmJgo PIOhONNlGUrodTM2BtUi40zr_09myONKZ3olwGV2C1flQ6jluCxO1jaEeS6o Xw.7tD6P58HOAyyTJu1MhrB6M0.VQpk2sc0rbP77E1vIrjbAutjGj.1fmF9f aw4lhVDPjfOOJdYsLRwSfKWfDiLRNKLNoQyp7yk7UNxZBTrcsan_HVpW9AeF T748HYIYSTs.ZxpH0Fc8Gr2dJxMYCMxSvy_IsPA4U4mEbpRqUtdLIqzmsXw0 1czS6cwmmoSJL1b8z0SsHjCDU4Qi_pJw6ZtmpFIggOFgzVqH6oMNZKqiGa5m LJACK0kNSEHeyFkndx44rKNOp2Zw5pKDjqtU.k0XtYnnYR940glLaQX0.zqd 3zND8ZokQpQ1W0zaJsuzvXmqva1BJB.EqJg.QiD91VyWP.2LgBDDdkzrkCwA k2PMtUT24ePJ.kQ4tcc2EZyvt0nELqRfgzhvUPRv9aDlJ3wSeEgU2xlchd1x 21dgx2ehgvn1bkThV3klCydd2PQtG1fjzjwd21xPRaQc0OWAqsvvtveUbjOC sOy4YYk4ly7r4N76e8_tfjSSc7Z8Tg__Ym1q3MQl1zaS_06d9Eg0YGJwDnFX TdihPeZhlSeNPsWAkjqP4vOKNG9wX_YfJiTb7gCdAPOeReagXYQRGoagOmx2 c0gahjaN3AO8AS.A4ye1c3BBD01COEaaV_NDRVqvRMCuHF15sDPclHWOCp6r lLTwvWPnscF0nmvZz1EPp Received: from [99.141.253.173] by web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:11:16 PST RGlkbid0IEJhc2lsIHRlbGwgdXMgaGUgd2FzIGNoYW5naW5nIHNvZnR3YXJlP8KgIEJ1dCBJIGRvbid0IHJlbWVtYmVyIHNlZWluZyBhIGRhdGUgZm9yIHRoZSBjaGFuZ2UuDQrCoA0KSmltDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBXZWQsIDExLzcvMTIsIEFsZHd5biA8YWxkd3luQHN5bHZhbmNpcmNsZS5vcmc.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IEFsZHd5biA8YWxkd3luQHN5bHZhbmNpcmNsZS5vcmc.DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1RSXSBCQ0Y_DQpUbzogdHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQNCkRhdGU6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgTm8BMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:11:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jim To: Aldwyn , triumph list Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't Basil tell us he was changing software? But I don't remember seeing a date for the change. Jim --- On Wed, 11/7/12, Aldwyn wrote: From: Aldwyn Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 8:22 PM It was running off of Lucas electronics. BCF is now waiting for a new wiring harness! :D > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:36 PM > To: Greg Lemon; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? > > 404 error here too......... no BCF > > Bob > > > Bob Danielson > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ > > 1975 TR6 modified with: > -Throttle Body Injection > -Toyota 5 Speed > -Nissan Differential > -AAW Wire Harness > -CVJs... and more > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 6:54 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] BCF? > > British Car Forum, which I know some of you listers frequent in addition to > Mark's fine listserv here, dropped of the face of the earth, er, web, > sometime late last night, anybody have a clue why? > > Off topic political discussion out of hand and Basil pulled the plug? > > Technical Difficulties? > > Cyber attack from the French or German Car Forums? > > Anybody have any clue or heard anything? > > Regards, Greg Lemon > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfam > ily.org > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aldwyn@sylvancircle.or > g ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cartr4a@ameritech.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 7 23:00:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EEC2D0ED3 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 23:00:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E4D2D0E20 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:27:27 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hukqca5TAAAA:8 a=GdI8f3LbEZbiTxKhyVEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55009] helo=Meislaptop) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 32/DE-18765-5034B905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:28:38 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jim'" , "'Aldwyn'" , "'triumph list'" References: <03c201cdbd57$ecc96b40$c65c41c0$@sylvancircle.org> <1352344276.94253.YahooMailClassic@web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:28:29 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac29YodrQPu7x3gnQQmgKhlOFpPbnQADwKsg Subject: Re: [TR] BCF? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Didn't Basil tell us he was changing software? But I don't remember > seeing a > date for the change. Thot he said "this week", but I could be mistaken. Kind of funny though, if you follow a link for a specific message, you get a fancy error page with Basil's image, a smart alec comment, and a link to the main page. Clicking on the link returns a generic 404 page. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 10:13:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44472D105B for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:13:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DC82D0719 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:54:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:55:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.234] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:55:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2012 16:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22673 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2012 16:55:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352393725; bh=zY5TzvW7wdkYLclmnFMyrgoNv9pZYtH5MzvM5sxq7Hc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jwl39sqXjybIPy8CvT7PaaasT11ZXZEC81tM/IKNIND4ezzT0V6cTPMKu9g0YA3nNw4jcbRyAYzUHIKrGxZLjn+2kWAyZjaGXnXBPFPurI4CRENx/saUa1sFydbPg+tVxznP/ZSqVU3vuXB7wIIimlOAJVOSuP6nAg+ZQ/IkDPU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hXGnLntUv7QTZoUty/jdR4RJ4pe9lu6K6PYR57LqIdk3GsWc78Oxl27XNuc1jKpHHNqtJ+Y0JMJ8RvGc3ivrn9A02SI4gCMgFwi2OeVcRamy9ecQR519Ou1Fsgvo9agfOvQSfx8CzaiPdwZqUrUzuvw/BsLcP7qc+wjVvhXm4Gw=; B5AHvNp3J0hYYEPuh5TbgXnBXrlWpI5QAhBoq7SIVjvANxk78mar1AerU2DM idwjvnVkaNgnh07w1Ye3iAKIgyBezG6P3B5Pgz4mi_piVLqly9PBqFkIlpav sWtHt1_JwqOaxzLiQUMgiFazLUpQtqfF3aBKEkJbG0Zaa0o5afSbXxsFt4DI J9RQIrl5_R5Y216l1DJgZ.fC4DVCQICAQRuhaSA1SUMnwMkvNAaJv71YozSw ErM7FwA582RUKORK0z22FqDMkjJSHnSNtWASsTH.dx5TMYroBJqO5xM3BzM9 Dst7qNSdw2zlDL8qgIp3QGUSjDso9iiPHDxEhh9hwtGu_V1E.bLmyNdnNQ.r 4Ijts.opoL81AV0vERbjG0kQTWVhVhbbbV2A- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:55:25 PST d2hvIGlzIHRoZSBndXkgd2hvIHJlYnVpbGRzIGRpc3RyaWJ1dG9ycz8KdGhhbmtzCkZyYW5rATABAQEB Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:55:25 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 10:15:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676592D10B2 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:15:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9284E2D1039 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:56:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hm6so1072015wib.2 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:58:04 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=l+D1Z/kJIaNpb+MvuNxA2AJPz3fCNH6XX12NaY/UdZc=; b=VXbEtJYlLYF0Aa1qy2sLMBtPZF5JPEJqeL0Cod2LxtdtjUgLwOrpPDj0vTKZPNjN8V e6v5QKzip4hVP+5VcBFA8RcbHi7JIuzZsW4PA0TSeSHtWtVghmLpesYoN7LRu0zFONuR +zQm8n0wd9gXNvj/nw6D8FzWL+7Lo/LiehL+cqJRV+RwTL2EQDQPWvOsoxm2WiPXkI83 iR8wpfXZ9yaYmr5UjL8vgdrVybIQnrVHddggqS11pwnTocYeh/K+s39dUObZ/FRBuWJJ 1Mi8RlOpmhcgdHMiDEl5hJgytEFtlFZg6OviSwEBGdrPEq2CT7VFy1IxiqNOcTCbhTt3 4Pvw== Received: by 10.216.202.206 with SMTP id d56mr3979791weo.73.1352393884273; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:57:44 -0800 (PST) References: <1352314923.1450.YahooMailNeo@web140801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:57:44 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] Round tail Spit for sale really cheap in Raleigh (not mine!) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is from a past member of my club who's just joined again, Larry Griffin. He's got a TR6 now and is disposing of his Spitfire at a fire-sale price...contact Larry directly if you are interested: 1968 Triumph Spitfire FD20512L >> Body is in very bad shape, has been outside under tarp since 1986 >> Engine was rebuilt in 1984 by Dave at Barnes Motors on Six Forks in Raleigh but has been stored indoors since, never in car >> Gearbox was stored inside too >> A few new parts from TRF that were to be used in restoration. >> Would like to go to good home or at least help save another early roundtail. >> Engine turns over freely by hand. >> $300 or make offer >> Larry Griffin >> lgriffinnc@bellsouth.net __._,_.___ Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic(1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group [image: Yahoo! Groups] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest  Unsubscribe  Terms of Use  Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 11:37:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2255F2D1112 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:37:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4424D2D10A3 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:03:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id M1Mu1k0041wfjNsA1657sf; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:05:07 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id M6571k0032yr1eL8j657P4; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:05:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:05:07 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: british-cars@autox.team.net Cc: Triumphs Subject: [TR] who is the guy who rebuilds LBC distributors? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reply to "Frank Fisher" not to me. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Fisher" > To: "Triumphs" > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:55:25 AM > Subject: [TR] (no subject) > who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 17:30:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354C12D10BC for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10D12D10A3 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:04:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF832E046; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:07:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:06:08 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Chris Simo References: <1352314923.1450.YahooMailNeo@web140801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Round tail Spit for sale really cheap in Raleigh (not mine!) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If that engine is a small journal 1296 it is well worth $300 itself. Wish I lived closer! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 17:35:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B4F2D117F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:35:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73512D1144 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:38:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hm6so1156634wib.2 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UUWpF1pxAA0jDsybDyCPZnbln3m3IOHAhfA94Jb5vko=; b=rTbrTBAdMmE/QK6dWFXudlypgWyh4eOVow7a0KdAW7WwfIMA+zGO8WKy8t3kT17Gv0 gbPejE+TnaHB8IOChtn61rqmE0KIPurWEN721uRpUD5893betoNUHpdD/HZ8sBtOwNGe PqZ/sH85lejfRUASoKQoXsEVxoIK/AYDnyHfoOmrcAfZreCBsAPRcOBVNGoDd4csrx0l U5exctFwbPW2dLLtvzMivvKwlXE12A9uvL9LoxIySVpYDBWzRQbBHOf0BlMDf5yEc4Mn UxGv1GwgNhfW3BSV0LKhu7TqYkBoqpW1sJY6TYYo+ycUCD4fe4lShj1ODxhBdIl0rK6R 4S8Q== Received: by 10.180.24.4 with SMTP id q4mr32457307wif.19.1352400002249; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.232.130 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) References: <1352314923.1450.YahooMailNeo@web140801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:40:02 -0500 From: Larry Griffin To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Round tail Spit for sale really cheap in Raleigh (not mine!) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like I left some money on the table. :-( The car is already sold to be used as a donor for an early Spit with a good body. Thanks, Larry Griffin On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > This is from a past member of my club who's just joined again, Larry > Griffin. He's got a TR6 now and is disposing of his Spitfire at a > fire-sale price...contact Larry directly if you are interested: > > 1968 Triumph Spitfire FD20512L >>> Body is in very bad shape, has been outside under tarp since 1986 >>> Engine was rebuilt in 1984 by Dave at Barnes Motors on Six Forks in > Raleigh but has been stored indoors since, never in car >>> Gearbox was stored inside too >>> A few new parts from TRF that were to be used in restoration. >>> Would like to go to good home or at least help save another early > roundtail. >>> Engine turns over freely by hand. >>> $300 or make offer >>> Larry Griffin >>> lgriffinnc@bellsouth.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:09:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9432D1211 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:09:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8479C2D1151; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:06:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by bradakis.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2CF82E01D; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:09:39 -0700 (MST) From: Mark J Bradakis To: triumphs@autox.team.net, spitfires@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:09:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TR] Life is a breeze! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Or, sometimes, strong gusty winds preceding a storm front. The kind of winds that break off tree branches. Tree branches that hit power lines, or perhaps phone lines, like the one that connects Team.Net to the world. Back on the air, I apologise for the service outage. mjb. PS: Mr. Mace - today's events set back the shipping schedule on that part. Sorry. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:12:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304102D129F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:12:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1562F2C0B16 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:18:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (64-252-187-192.adsl.snet.net [64.252.187.192]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Me8la-1Th4xN1qEo-00PzJX; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:35:54 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Frank Fisher" , "Triumphs" References: <1352393725.19052.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:35:55 -0500 yKxlUklH8eT3FQtskHEf5IIRNPgxkvaXKHMfBJjh4M1aOkMOMV yLjZS05uS+tG6dzTwOVx4kjVY1oex1bP4NQxunwC8rLP0UJN3e vAYPYy/OQFDJsK+63xpkddkNPO4PB1pmgZ+96jIuZcZjoLdBBZ osWcxM8486aTF83BWCxkyvWv8AS+Ft9WH+xMakaveYzEbnjCFa x4ts+Q5ECbPAulboX5yZ0NjtAKRYjQwebC+rUFgvn/avFoOIZD 4StUu0H1xrJwoA8Vua/Iogs8QtjegNxuEROLcOcAGOuEXNwQgw 4eYSWre1BYxPKMd//JLHNvIHs5O6OwPhVzZG2GtBb Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff at Advanced Distributors maybe? http://www.advanceddistributors.com/ Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:55 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] (no subject) who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:13:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087722D12AB for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:13:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A2952D1068 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:22:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 12974 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2012 21:37:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.88) with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2012 21:37:00 -0000 From: "Dave" To: "Frank Fisher" , "Triumphs" References: <1352393725.19052.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:34:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net advanced distributors - http://advanceddistributors.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:55 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] (no subject) who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:13:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923102D13D1 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:13:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547C72D112F for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id cb5so59655wib.2 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:31:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FXG73gxcJHnwwGlNmE6F2t4J0mn5F6n7Mh8vx5hw6ic=; b=SnphkIVkWF37FcDPOOuoPJZm0sZ4xuhsYvn6C5ml78bC12bRGfIttmf1IADdQNLYHb qlSbkbXc48BddbaNlhe8R7aiPHqHsfRLIVRqrgYoOOuVMNDNayGM9+4xAMMFfPrB+sVd gcvr3KT1AdSonvX92mUi5OA05qFgwIPUdOGwB3oSz4Up4uixWBJHxgpPrzrx7/W8hnKj GD9uKKkmBGUGpB0hArbOavp3idPL81GOlgdd/AQES77xap3GG0rHInXJIF7EeWuDJK7/ ff6QHaH9YyhsoKvf2AXwLZWjO/BM+4qSN8K52Aa5UKRcKC9qp0xR3p7JkaDTefVSvLRi HN5Q== Received: by 10.180.93.136 with SMTP id cu8mr221759wib.7.1352417396734; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.6.198 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:29:56 -0800 (PST) References: <1352314923.1450.YahooMailNeo@web140801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:29:56 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Round tail Spit for sale really cheap in Raleigh (not mine!) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It has been sold! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:14:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A462D1419 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:14:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 025662D116D for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:31:56 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 22540 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2012 19:06:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2012 19:06:27 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=59870 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TWXQp-0007U6-0H; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:06:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:06:23 -0600 To: british-cars@autox.team.net,yellowtr3@yahoo.com From: Tony Drews ville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1352393725.19052.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <423936369.142207.1352397907127.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] who is the guy who rebuilds LBC distributors? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think this is who you're looking for: http://www.advanceddistributors.com 17495 Marystown Road Shakopee, MN 55379 (612)-804-5543 I'm planning to pick up a unit from them in the winter rebuild. Tony Drews At 12:05 PM 11/8/2012, pethier@comcast.net wrote: >Reply to >"Frank Fisher" >not to me. > >Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA >1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue >2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch >2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl >2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red >pethier@comcast.net >http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier >http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica >http://www.mnautox.com >http://www.mntriumphs.org > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank Fisher" > > To: "Triumphs" > > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:55:25 AM > > Subject: [TR] (no subject) > > who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? > > thanks > > Frank > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 8 18:35:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB082D134B for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:35:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D42D13E8 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:14:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.53]) by cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20121108204215753.QCRA3785@cdptpa-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:42:15 +0000 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=D5HH5mBpWgsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=lmOvmFQtWB8A:10 a=MQwVU5TkAAAA:8 a=giPWDU_lQlny3tKTKYwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:58218] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EC/1F-21565-AA81C905; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:40:11 +0000 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:40:16 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 To: Frank Fisher References: <1352393725.19052.YahooMailNeo@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: "trium >> \"Triumphs@autox.team.net\"" Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, I had Advanced Distributors do mine for the 6. Very nice job. Website: http://www.advanceddistributors.com/index.htm Bob On 11/08/2012 11:55 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > who is the guy who rebuilds distributors? > thanks > Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 12:43:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA172D0699 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:43:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605122D0531 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:12:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:13:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:13:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Nov 2012 19:13:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1782 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 2012 19:13:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352488412; bh=g6uNq54iTQ+YJtfzkd2kU01rFDW/5K+eCCmnyf0c3Mc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zvT7JYW67HpM5S+a5JWhm16KggbY1D72alh29ziVy3U7KlgKk5Z1ory75QrPHc86kPYKBLF8GVpMCGljvYNvRmC03wlHQeDx0mK/LRHCBUh2FXOwUmS6367OO9fG2lAUksg0Ikiyy2oi65SlgdC//9sreL6DWl+TvrFrXnZmWHU= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zXOMet+HON7pT1tL5W7sWZ+ZSI7AHL/Gyh7A7/BrUoFGdJBUYcgq40gNmew9Arxq2EDkYEugS91nvHLnJ16mMek0oowsZNtkwM3PsKW7P6OU1b34DQuPh30G4To9gf8u23WqIQ7yCgeQmRgPIpIlNLAMGNF/ddAWjnTVTCq2nJU=; YoekWXlpm2cDNxsyGObCVSNxSwpkHXnhNivG9t1REHCZ5tDJWAeCwmyNwwI4 z4o1TV4Q6aBOMQf33_9Yds_VRYh6HZnCS2vH4isJfLWpfXemFDQI0ka81FPS FjfK6CXzgeo1OV9w3VPsGrnHYIWpncMYEXC91JMejh8UQ.X6Yl3MXfuXP_Ym YLl1iV7WZ2rr33r3ZFFXpGI9Xz4MjVyGM7a.0qQMlaXneZchoznPXr_emz5m 29NrLaSRpQxRj1t6ORcBGtJrjrAtN5mebdaV2ymdj.jNxRIYXobd0Q2S3t1h Thmd3sY1BP4wFQDOsLXcydniEOTnyJkEhq_NJg2qu_llneGP8BjIH6kNejcl 7HnFVhtBeakveQbFmi275Ns76774vHcrpCmIuAysswMuMT3Td_hKFjIf9Ysv NkNFPk7S5myZ6IFVOzQtAr0_pjykAN6NC624oAG8bmjLoC5T9xX3OXqp_Ue2 9Bnzn7NwGkfAW5DKvoBAVmmd6N76S0UsmaZfnGFfGrCE- Received: from [99.149.16.191] by web185006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:13:32 PST DQoNCi0tLSBPbiBGcmksIDExLzkvMTIsIEphbmlzIERhYmFycyA8amRhYmFyc0BhdHQubmV0PiB3cg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KwqANCsKgDQp3d3cucmV0cm9jbGFzc2ljY2FycGFydHMuY29tIAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:13:32 -0800 (PST) From: Janis Dabars To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Fw: triumph parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --- On Fri, 11/9/12, Janis Dabars wr www.retroclassiccarparts.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 9 14:22:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01582D06ED for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:22:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02C2D0506 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:01:30 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=hhP56vrijGm+/UW5uB3itXRYfGD5hrq1d3WhOwCcoSF1z1O6c5le2GZCvT6XX4rM; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.51] (helo=mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TWvik-0001KR-Py for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:02:34 -0500 Received: from 67.166.230.60 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:02:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Dougherty Sr." To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Need TR-6 Blower motor, New Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for a new blower motor for a TR-6, new. Email globalrc@mindspring.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 04:27:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC562D078B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:27:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB432D0645 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.252] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 70763 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352546663; bh=GZN8HeET15twttg8qWLBKSEoLc24FR3loHj2DqDBrV8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fCwjhn6ApmXTTi/+mt3Ea+1/Ecm00hgPuz+f4GhB4ou60besY3qHicwfc2vfQvPA35wHdn4GCPBMR57s8yNcvYmGqwHYQF+mbP9fvasBGgJg/Jesw2oFf/uEcUFhdcr65jAt5LRkgnU/lvSMI+TtQO+n6PT4IEy6HTun3fRL3FU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v07+B+cUdCTNkLKpy8YvyLsY0fq9DSv/MqG/SR0wRCdstoTazHZGA0gmsB2ieqV0n/ve+IjU0ivwOUdACknJJ67G5QupfTPhTLDIcQ1Dffu379/1FX50Us5nKYIG2TAfNls5msrpwbjZm1nvkDu3STrMNEUzWNBWdWiVbg6YF/0=; 9bccaOO9sxa1GzTpTFn2ulsUU3t5AjftrB2glDgLX92ZPc9e3ykqmbEffo.E IdlF9OUc6sC8k.CrIVhcyvrYwfGEaTxrfoLGkKBGMAmXcVs44xaEFzpbIvcb vdGDIh_H9yF7YLaU4c5nvY_wBKrXaWEYGQkyJGDhe4mRafK.mrqcKHL.Pd.L PEQBQGcC6scl_g5p74sByydEEAYzaCsJ4vsZlrYFhBhX9xIQvp8xVObIU8rY c723Ik0qo7UCar6XahelvNB2IhMWIlj2Y6D937Lztv.lcUlcCtFM3v6CUcQz fb6eQVYPKEKtCwpzLI7RkTjlOd85IP2HSZanLgeMozmzGi0fTj_4EAYLEk8N bRuccZ85HcndAeat64GtNp.bPT.YYlEccCBM89LYUvWy_SJFE2Q-- Received: from [75.5.202.71] by web133004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 GMT TG9va2luZyB0byBzZWUgaWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSByZWdpc3RyeSB0byBmaW5kIGEgbG9uZy1sb3N0IFRSNCB0byBzdXByaXNlIGEgZnJpZW5kIHdpdGggaXRzIHJlc3RvcmF0aW9uLXZlcnkgc3BlY2lhbCBwcm9qZWN0LiBQbGVhc2UgbGV0IG1lIGtub3cgaWYgdGhlcmUgYXJlIHJlc291cmNlcyBvdXQgdGhlcmUuIEkgYmVsaWV2ZSBpdCBtYXkgYmUgaW4gQ1QuCsKgClRoYW5rcywKTEIBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:24:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Larry Brouder To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR4 Search Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looking to see if there is a registry to find a long-lost TR4 to suprise a friend with its restoration-very special project. Please let me know if there are resources out there. I believe it may be in CT. Thanks, LB ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 06:33:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808B12D07F6 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:33:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13F12D07D2 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:23:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id h37so4238176iak.14 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:24:31 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lTij31Y/E1ZoasGQ3bMf2QGegHXd8MvqbDP/t5/cnh8=; b=PI8v8ITUrFEqxEvZXRyEEe5ljVeA1xB4YRjMTDcqc5fytW+Pf1yBYu0lOwDGa/w102 Nf32tGhCda3EArvtq+aG9ClT/2AjWY72B0UAPQYnh8ePqnlENjm7eEgotO9K355JXWIg bESzBTinLqkIeoTw7RsY84QoNUriKKqUjriAG32lfUu26bxpJOfLVcc356rShw8IB1pA TasTC6bLMBKder/cAi83hqqYaUeWbxcUK8SK1iXnbr8fnFIYQ8UeYgoPc7mKdKV2AqQT 9E6Uzed9wkyjTcH4wYx+xkazhMbQF5bnwUVSoG+UlROfvaY2GFOEzRX9ZeL5EaF9dJws dD2g== Received: by 10.50.161.232 with SMTP id xv8mr3459009igb.22.1352553871049; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.180.166 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 05:24:30 -0800 (PST) References: <1352546663.70446.YahooMailNeo@web133004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:24:30 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Larry Brouder Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Search Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Larry Brouder wrote: > Looking to see if there is a registry to find a long-lost TR4 to suprise a > friend with its restoration-very special project... Here's one: TR Registry Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 09:39:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455CE2D06ED for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:39:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BBC2D0160 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 09:30:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 16:32:06 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.135] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 16:32:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2012 16:32:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 49589 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2012 16:32:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352565126; bh=2LUn7gS/jDJPaRh0Ql61i0ZFZeHmBV8Y4jozAHcjzzA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TSEEM8peDkXHDqEwHTKH1XT2rGOE2Hr1mLk9lIYeemTFAw9w+hW5UFulCJlBv2ReuOWn1e5U8orUg10DZPZYfi4C8yCNKLXY4wtjn72CIsX9Wj0nrPHmOdPNVYzY9YFAteH4fTEpbY7HvCEhxgL/nDTf1dB7KIL/jigJtAKGRrE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aqYnq6dUlHdFEjersQ/XeGw4lX2/MMsNAvQ5xm3nh1Dp7Pqow2KzG9XnnnBVScGaR4PHAAJcgwpcvII8CG5Nmd+6m5Bo925JKqE9i+64rhtZ0J9bGtvzSstOyR+vquo3BC8tedbvOxfCZhRlTR8QFlSpEaEFop+l/ExtclBF/W0=; uDVg8.orlUd.XOD7UCX3PC346YYKBKeNGBV49uY0owX1sN2II15VqDsumZnF Gv4aLt_wrbi86qs0aqbdA4Ns9LNV_SlUf.mhZa4u7ziNDiZ.B_Ei8HEoxKXQ IVAddbs2gsJrTMIXq2YLIUOB7r3DOa2C1jEwsc4qJofr.zfmPPEbv6_y4iDP rmrhCJoJUJgRBrlLvOpvl28cHS1BYcwClHiDxu.OWQGIs22_IdB3t3ZbzXZL 8JL6B_8WadRbaT.CJgX6SpxQmTTaibrNtdPA38OtTJalIV936vH29Q32OvsE Z72uKLFzIJf4dwloUacyBXfCugYUFS5AFHYD5br8wp6floCFpZjeeiwdv3Mr RXBL26Av2KW_hBBUf4KtnAJzDI1SkGFgMJdpELvKB3dJTbFl2_n0ftVInA2A oYS7lGSyMlGzZ7_PSTo6mEfBGGO.UJf0JIHX3Qv0dC2QKjNxmCjIZ Received: from [71.139.142.164] by web133006.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:32:05 GMT SGkgRGF2ZSwKwqAKdmluIGlzIENUMjc3ODAgTCBJIGJlbGlldmUgaXQgd2FzIHJlZCB0byBiZWdpbiB3aXRoLCBhbmQgaXMgYSAxOTY0LgrCoEFueSBoZWxwIGlzIGdyZWF0bHkgYXBwcmVjaWF0ZWQhCsKgClRoYW5rcywKTGFycnkgCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogRGF2ZSA8ZGF2ZUByYW50ZWVyLmNvbT4KVG86IExhcnJ5IEJyb3VkZXIgPGxicm91ZGVyQHlhaG9vLmNvLnVrPiAKU2VudDogU2F0dXJkYXksIDEwIE5vdmVtYmVyIDIwMTIsIDEwOjE5ClN1YmplY3Q6IFIBMAEBAQE- References: <1352546663.70446.YahooMailNeo@web133004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <9C4EBF8DEFCF4B57AAA96D25C331E31F@Datsun> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:32:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Larry Brouder To: Dave , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Search Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave, vin is CT27780 L I believe it was red to begin with, and is a 1964. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Larry ________________________________ From: Dave To: Larry Brouder Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012, 10:19 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Search at least tell us number, color, year . . . -----Original Message----- From: Larry Brouder Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 5:24 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4 Search Looking to see if there is a registry to find a long-lost TR4 to suprise a friend with its restoration-very special project. Please let me know if there are resources out there. I believe it may be in CT. Thanks, LB ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave@ranteer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 18:28:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425202D0952 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:28:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.185]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44462D0916 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 01:28:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.196] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 01:28:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 01:28:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1268 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2012 01:28:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352597330; bh=9s6oaIGuxc81dFqGYUV2u5Cu1KJf6a88KMHVgVkdPEo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IKIyr1cvdre7pTSvLJfVtHu0Uav/ADvOOnGjaGkGqKYZuNR5QL37G9wvDBqCHavS3ISO/ECQUXOrlUEuWPQaQyQUllZl91gMWxgd9P5uzo/wSbcetL3cBKuwGw/NWwXzY2ygSTCi3vuD4Hu56YjlS/UCfgAvOvm8hCSaxAwXPrg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dkHFf8FNqozKlCsSpe6D7RiK0J2HqeYAjTno14V8vpMtZguzDjHmcOnrRBPRcLtNj9sTgZ8hyqo/ObyVwMZhGdqnknhlUOnJ3K23efIPy59hRWUspiFL5Ot3yks+R95g3SRemXm9C7ulfKFTyTA2YNcGkmhOR9pAD1aFYyGs4hI=; M4ZttW7bx_sk5daNY3RUyUmQmb3LNVixlBWTaewu7hsxBJSkNZkMYAEODqac GbmG97tyOv33Go9lMk57.F5RHRzAJ1QnE.pomTGM2nXeUuZcue3E_3UhA.Ob qeR.NivID_MPThHUAb7jDq4soKpJ9gI2Wi9flBH4G14Xv9r9d_m.N_HkjD4p EEh6H2MpcqYVPuxFI0vXYVpK0wuK81ZCValjmISepCDMkMTO40WOqdRg2K9k Wx1je3wS.bzeWaE8D1OsVsME.zsvf2gQSoszo46P0oO2SlMaJvvCMbRryUTs zvyG566JzPqaz.o5fEaGyPpL2j1EvScOTV9YviBAYAMucLZUEooIkd3Dpr.z rnE0gHAtubevrHdlJhs4BwWAa4oEUYO2oLtixj9nu4VQjFhNtEAyfAFkrOAE pX7iBPbTkOD0gLZaOMFWO Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:28:50 PST QW0gcHJlc2VudGx5IHRyb3VibGUgc2hvb3RpbmcgNTkgdHItMyBmdWVsIGd1YWdlIG5vdCB3b3JraW5nLsKgIEkgZ2V0IG5vIHJlc3BvbnNlIGZyb20gbmVlZGxlIGF0IGFsbCB3aXRoIG15IG9yaWdpbmFsIDMgZ3VhZ2UuCgoKwqBJIGhhZCBhIHRyLTQgZ3VhZ2Ugd2hpY2ggSSBpbnN0YWxsZWQgaW5zdGVhZCBhbmQgZm91bmQgdGhhdCBpdCBESUQgd29yaywgYnV0IG9ubHkgZ29lcyB0byBmdWxsIGFuZCBzdGF5cyB0aGVyZSB3aGVuIHN3aXRjaCBpcyBvbiwgd2hldGhlciB0YW5rIGlzIGZ1bGwgb3Igbm90LgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] another fuel guage ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Am presently trouble shooting 59 tr-3 fuel guage not working. I get no response from needle at all with my original 3 guage. I had a tr-4 guage which I installed instead and found that it DID work, but only goes to full and stays there when switch is on, whether tank is full or not. It does fall to empty when switch is off and also falls to empty when green/black wire at sender is grounded on tank ground nut. Randall mentioned in a recent post that the 3 and 4 guages work opposite. Is there a way to make my 4 guage work in my 3? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 21:13:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FB22D0951 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:13:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1B12D091B for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:07:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail123-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.227) by DB3EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.3.84.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:50 +0000 Received: from mail123-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail123-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11435E009E; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:50 +0000 (UTC) H:SN2PRD0202HT026.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail123-db3: domain of uga.edu designates 207.46.4.139 as permitted sender) client-ip=207.46.4.139; envelope-from=mathews@uga.edu; helo=SN2PRD0202HT026.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail123-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail123-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 1352606922922293_10386; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.227]) by mail123-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53C4C00C7; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SN2PRD0202HT026.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (207.46.4.139) by DB3EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (10.3.87.115) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (50.96.158.123) by pod51004.outlook.com (10.27.91.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.15.129.3; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 04:08:40 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:08:40 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: Gary Nafziger References: <1352597330.95295.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] another fuel guage ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, Could it be the sender in the tank? I think you can check it with an ohm meter. But Randall will give a more complete reponse as usual. Doug On 11/10/2012 8:28 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Am presently trouble shooting 59 tr-3 fuel guage not working. I get no > response from needle at all with my original 3 guage. > > > I had a tr-4 guage > which I installed instead and found that it DID work, but only goes to full > and stays there when switch is on, whether tank is full or not. It does fall > to empty when switch is off and also falls to empty when green/black wire at > sender is grounded on tank ground nut. > > Randall mentioned in a recent post > that the 3 and 4 guages work opposite. Is there a way to make my 4 guage work > in my 3? > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mathews@uga.edu ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 21:43:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D3F2D09B0 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:43:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB232D0963 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:37:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:38:54 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.243] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:38:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 04:38:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352608734; bh=Pe/etR9freGiFq49xQ7qEdq6GIzU9xTIq6I8cTtW91o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=ePWSGG+8baFJjhsc0axAsCHrzDyTopOf3HZkxB3nZjiM3o1LhYT2tclb7ZitrbArGs1EJ3TYpjFMHSrUidmrocmc+LFRC37pUrnQ8yHoY6maPqFsykeWj1343Q5MbQnaONBCwOYg3K5Aj6IZZqPFwoQPplNEQDDqDPzGJOydXyg= EJvjZBjeuUkn_VDVGfQOTj_c8UCgtzULWCmsPjuwujosH.c544yCAjeQbuPL 1sBcLftTExTYlBuV0fhIZLiH3yVILab1baRkvzc6E0Zk2HdukF8DY0qVKGg_ 8fuEVox5RAf4vXxenBj_w1tSA_xDQmcya9.2y3Z8MJre6L0aLDjk7qakbz0q Tdt1kY4LXErXKt0OFWGqIe_qTCSY7M.NBDqt2EIroK2NWxGLwbo5BRkd3_Wm 2w8aKXJiID.hgej.etciTCYnyQU0xpfMXXQFAzgnwA2M.RENakAclOVTCE0H 1q3JNY1bdmeKmt6AjUzNE1qbG4CwOUX6p6UoX5Ic_EcOqn6G90MLyEH5uwp9 ohujHtbw7e5q4lETh42oGlghocLGTzzRM5dFEgx.R6IxKpSRrpbPnhmpT6sh geh_H4iCg9Wj_2nDM8_g7SDzWxLVS5O9BL7Zrii80umjqCFZiL5Kvnd1Q3km guOwhDwEZb_zE8PMKCCSE Received: from [10.164.188.168] (wbeech@166.147.66.11 with xymcookie) by smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2012 20:38:54 -0800 PST References: <1352597330.95295.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <509F24C8.3040806@uga.edu> From: WBEECH Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:38:53 -0600 To: "mathews@uga.edu" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] another fuel guage ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ohms should range between 10-90 +\- 10%. Always bench test the gauge and sending unit together before installation. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Doug Mathews wrote: Gary, Could it be the sender in the tank? I think you can check it with an ohm meter. But Randall will give a more complete reponse as usual. Doug On 11/10/2012 8:28 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Am presently trouble shooting 59 tr-3 fuel guage not working. I get no > response from needle at all with my original 3 guage. > > > I had a tr-4 guage > which I installed instead and found that it DID work, but only goes to full > and stays there when switch is on, whether tank is full or not. It does fall > to empty when switch is off and also falls to empty when green/black wire at > sender is grounded on tank ground nut. > > Randall mentioned in a recent post > that the 3 and 4 guages work opposite. Is there a way to make my 4 guage work > in my 3? > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mathews@uga.edu ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 10 22:48:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3096B2D09D3 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:48:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FDF2D0992 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:38:48 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=dEZ1rdvQoKEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=9cFadrk20v0A:10 a=Q1QnznIbxKIbdeV0tH0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2F/9C-21565-03A3F905; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:40:00 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:40:04 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac2/rBkZiNy3d22PRuOiY487UcwKogAIaucg Subject: Re: [TR] another fuel guage ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > It does fall > to empty when switch is off and also falls to empty when green/black wire > at sender is grounded on tank ground nut. Hmm, I think you've got the gauges backwards. Your description of how the "TR4" gauge acts is more consistent with the TR3 gauge. A TR4 gauge would show full with the wire at the sender shorted and empty with it disconnected. The needle would also move rather slowly, taking many seconds to sweep across the dial (especially towards full), while the TR3 gauge snaps to position. Also sounds like a bad sender. Check the resistance as Bill described, it should rise to 90 ohms or so if you hook the lever with a coat hanger and pull it to the top. To make a 'real' TR4 gauge work, you only need to change to a TR4 sender (I'm not certain offhand, but I think it will bolt up to the tank) and provide a voltage stabilizer to power the gauge. Without the VS, it will read about 1/4 tank too high. You may need to tweak the calibration a bit to account for the difference in the fuel tank, but probably not. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 11:53:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375F2D07EF for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:53:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EE02D06D2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:53:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 18:54:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.167] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 18:54:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 18:54:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 20023 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2012 18:54:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352660083; bh=4ssOln6lhS+/dXQa76NktJ8mRGNnkgX9NQ8vyJFKJxk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JxV0l4+/BGXYLBTeCy4lYrUKOZrxTB/BDmQNbL+DTg1rjGKediw368nqHxyhq2dHF5wQD2hHRf81QGQFWKG494HQsrwn2NeFLA4jorIdcRkNFGw/7ZM9t0+aUbbZvSUmBpbQ3qXIiLscgu38yDUdA+4/EwpXZB75F9elFEN4XAU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2wKrG6r5+oAzS4RJETpOtrVBTqxhyD68N+eHMjF8ogW5C6OoRfHmpsvFAT8WffsS64xxAvbu7f+aS/stCDPRSQFceHjVi58dR9zRbXmnRTpYv8wPh6nVgtU/EtDVfaIw/ZHa5OpEUyAf0gpy2XgzmZI30u/XUeWiXh3WnwqIySk=; Vy7LWgl55l07JyvWSwcUTuuXHfuX6ALg_bsaBCMqJlyZBP_pPtUiuo11.U.h 6QkQ7WCVugZrr6UfJgJbtu1JJJ60gLkrn9rZdwwzVFBKy_F8P_NJpaYK6Zmi 0bqzn39EI.VxRsZ8ZhOLntLhoG.myNuAUsnF.O8LtqgVQAD_nKfSi5XEqGyx rMSb0C.srZjLbIT1nuhPpWim7ps2stjo4fnl5vi1oiCd4nNgJCNDnxDNnZLU lMcgrh3rhu9u2waY4HH4mJ0DetDW5QwXuY.VY8RT.BlQ4uwxMogGgdUgKufF Wj9BYhN6upFdSPYJ78qb3arMkL5QAnun1uABA5BzThPVnsGmsD3VSVxSAQyE WnGC5RQmmljo1NQ75BSUC0fmSpsxlZDO0IdDBL11JHVIM42fA3DiKXNdKp4P VWC6VThLixE3u1HU8Dxa4BA-- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:54:43 PST aSB0cnkgdG8gc3VwcG9ydCBULVItRiBldmVyeSBvcHBvcnR1bml0eSwgYnV0IHRoZWlyIHdlYiBzaXRlIGFuZCBwcmludGVkIGxpdGVyYXR1cmUganVzdCBjb25mb3VuZCBtZS4Kc29tZSB0aW1lIGJhY2sgaSBzZWVtIHRvIHJlY2FsbCB0aGV5IGhhZCBhIGNhcmJ1cmV0b3Iga2l0IHRoYXQgdXNlZCBidXNoaW5ncyBpbnN0ZWFkIG9mIG92ZXJzaXplIHRocm90dGxlIHNoYWZ0cy4KYXMgaSBoYXZlIGEgYnJhbmQgbmV3IHNldCBvZiB0aHJvdHRsZSBzaGFmdHMgdGhhdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBhIGxlc3MgZXhwZW5zaXYBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i try to support T-R-F every opportunity, but their web site and printed literature just confound me. some time back i seem to recall they had a carburetor kit that used bushings instead of oversize throttle shafts. as i have a brand new set of throttle shafts that would be a less expensive route. i can call TRF tomorrow for the part number. but it seems to me, i would have to ream out a lot more meat than the oversize shafts. no? has any one used these and if so how did you like? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 12:28:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519B52D0909 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A309B2D0895 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:28:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 19:29:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.190] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 19:29:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 19:29:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352662181; bh=UWLdxG987/SpegAG0/ywjhm16hGXPRuxQjpUFWwbthY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=pivHSCdjgXZjDrAMLxhQ/Gw7+oOQP48P8BCL2unirCjPY85VM06wBxqYNDyX3redWDNaxSXYdlSGyHkkhsgtFO9bLECNsdiDR1eT+82Sp3GhZLKovBy9FHAUAT9eEgSX3yUGeEsBUxc8OUY5b3US8l+jSI0mCBXCkX3PCozqXNs= B_UCMFuWjQbzi6m5QlIuAZjBnunm6nX8g.Ct75XmyDsYSY0Lw3oPdkhnyxJA Uvdb3L5uLpo.xfITk.g5w3EVpy8LkxzYZkIT654lvwSYLGHt.ObmtiXT8q3_ 13Y3Mcyi2snHbZmhkDXEFgQCot_M4ZwJlpVd6u1sFvlg.dsYXjZvqndL1tke zBQW9BDI9bik93p.LamiUEY34ZlsFEuD.9X0pTxCpYVNLanqXDuSSeGndc3t AI1tvzJDoFgNcRx05LoSthHQylvNpetuBS1hfw9KywkxY5zhULIOJ85Ys6EH YQtApeveqKsdQYJ6rsPBhJrYtM90godivrBxkmhviRR2Kq8TUbRp4Ept_3O2 3z7Yr3QPzfBM.nvfBonYGbJVn60HrqVutrXCUwZT7r.2kYK0kYd3YCAA41IS oabdgMO8bFC7xsUJlQUeoJjikpy4JYAUivvZrwMcnuyQxr7Q5m6ptGQ0IH3r C.QyEO_faDPAuGV1hC_UP Received: from [10.164.188.168] (wbeech@166.147.66.11 with xymcookie) by smtp117-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2012 11:29:41 -0800 PST References: <1352660083.9849.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: WBEECH Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:29:42 -0600 To: Frank Fisher Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Or, call Joe Cuerto as TRF does/did get their kits from him. You'll have to ream either way but I would go the stock shaft and bush route if there are no extended circumstances. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 11, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: i try to support T-R-F every opportunity, but their web site and printed literature just confound me. some time back i seem to recall they had a carburetor kit that used bushings instead of oversize throttle shafts. as i have a brand new set of throttle shafts that would be a less expensive route. i can call TRF tomorrow for the part number. but it seems to me, i would have to ream out a lot more meat than the oversize shafts. no? has any one used these and if so how did you like? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 13:57:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFAC2D0938 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:57:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D06B2D08CB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:55:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so4405339qcq.14 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:56:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8jq01trxTS/mqqoU2YgrBxGIk2YLrBKVQxeKgH5EFa0=; b=yc6zJHGpwv6IO6HOqJX1C+gSPLgbyXCruWd4cX0UbzORbX65Y3f/kpL0dYtkA+QSNS FmyFYY3Xclm91HcMLXYBaLN7sIoY83FU1+9suGFAiUoygE5pb3nxN2O1YKE7YWnV4xlg jJeoCetLsoRXd7fxbkkbUdhG04Q4VDOlAn6fDYuEFjHIh4/eO60o58wqYNNKthjsKn+L hIOWRSE5QNL4kTKA0O4iN8hOhA5WK1UWHzIywjQHmtak1Ql4MPULJSutCMTpxVsH2FWF ISc3ZbI4iFZRA5MCdJ1SnIaDKVe9YArPnwhctN4866/Wn2ezG3dmmSGvfu39UkbwBtgI 6lxA== Received: by 10.49.51.7 with SMTP id g7mr24244810qeo.34.1352667414631; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.75.99 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:56:54 -0800 (PST) References: <1352660083.9849.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:56:54 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > i can call TRF tomorrow for the part number. > An old TRF catalogue I have shows RFK138 as an H6 kit that 'includes one pair of shafts and replacement bushes'. RFK138 Perhaps that is what you were recalling? Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 15:05:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF2B2D0A04 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:05:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.94]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AC52D085A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:04:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.8] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 22:06:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2012 22:06:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 89712 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2012 22:06:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352671563; bh=x0AzP47qoygDMckKM8hXAwaB0PUzCU4kEPbR/UyxNPs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s9lbbH6TcvAj/RnDu0JR6IbQAghEkRTissScm1dla5fWMq8HgYJHhBcxgr2zWlIhnpSQ/N9z8C6wbyZVmzDpS0EJt8mQSI0SlEy1UxSHQm64SPoLDWN3ErAjH5yXPC5/KlB+zFF6QDrIUNuMpcesEwXC1mLQQPkPFhnneL/DUvk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KcS18G08opyknybiP3bMT5yJ4E04oy1+Ba6loca1w93YxljkiTJb3cV9qcBNQJ85uEB2qKMb8Tk+DtVJwKZ1BQYoHnbZZkC3S/wtZoz2UgFj6UlsTnWSgD8I4PAGx4sHtKaPvp3tcYvqYtDmZ2Dzen19zmcD9TdJxI0FwQ++XtI=; HKpoDnWRYL8SpUxQK1CIMlma1x1kThxh_t.6J0H5h5bnR7yY74uWNiCFtp_U Eap51mXTiKK1os9.sf5L24PkAOXlain0iALAf4Fo0yoEmQj58gV5tF50je8Y 4lOb2HJM_HNe5g4hHhRR0mVX1VdL6JROu3w0tQQje4fgHtNWO8nmbB47chUE UEurLYEzVF0gEom_8jZumbgU1XZn1ReI6Fojcz00fvl0masl1sU0y_I8RHVX w4h_jydjw0eVcB0sO3WfwvxHQeemTeexqrRi4GJl8Rob4a1JV7pAChHRqDpT OJ2Cuxfll5ZLcFaY7mEKIQv46tpas6CL5BG5wPPMn9MQDw2L6lmAEWxviuWj v.yqg1nlIg64gcpxIv4Zt97rojTD3WBTyP56DQ5teEIhjyb8E9Zfv.pt.6_W zFyyixG9BFQcps8LK19E.TrpY3_RkUpEwVy1gsQze1mGJuAe2VohMceKcpqS OObeZQQWenuyQxyRzz9mJma8ky.qFkHG7gPVPZsiXe_lBr9ERx.SoW3JSJVv L7bH85ThfEQteGwM- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:06:02 PST dGhhbmtzIEdlbwppIHJlY2FsbCB0aGUgc2VsbCB0aGUgYnVzaGluZyBzZXBhcmF0ZSBhbHNvLgppbGwgY2FsbCBUUkYgZm9yIHRoYXQKwqAKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBHZW8gSGFobiA8YWh3YWhuZWV0ckBnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBGcmFuayBGaXNoZXIgPHllbGxvd3RyM0B5YWhvby5jb20.IApDYzogVHJpdW1waHMgPHRyaXVtcGhzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxMSwgMjAxMiAxMjo1NiBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1QBMAEBAQE- References: <1352660083.9849.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:06:02 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Geo Hahn Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net thanks Geo i recall the sell the bushing separate also. ill call TRF for that ________________________________ From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: Triumphs Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: i can call TRF tomorrow for the part number. An old TRF catalogue I have shows RFK138 as an H6 kit that 'includes one pair of shafts and replacement bushes'. RFK138 Perhaps that is what you were recalling? Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 17:25:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE7E2D0B1D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:25:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDF82D0A98 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:24:14 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Ee67gtBCPnUA:10 a=TinuBC64S97zGPXQRJIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/C5-01425-9F140A05; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:25:29 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Frank Fisher'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:25:35 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3APjAIlT2rYKn7Tjqrytpgd4jH0gAKcqOw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > some time back i seem to recall they had a carburetor kit that used > bushings instead of oversize throttle shafts. RFK138 is the kit with two bushings and one shaft. I don't know of a full rebuild kit that includes the bushings. But the price has gone up until it makes more sense perhaps to just send them the carbs and let them install the bushings. A pair of kits is on sale for $112, while the rebushing service (RBCB101, which includes the kits) is only $139. > as i have a brand new set of throttle shafts that would be a less > expensive route. The bushings are a standard hardware item I believe. I'm not sure what material is in the TRF kit, but it looked like solid bronze rather than Oilite (about $5 ea @ MMC). Or it might be entertaining to try something a little higher tech, like maybe graphite impregnated sintered bronze (under $1) or Rulon J ($10 but still a lot cheaper than TRF). > but it seems to me, i would have to ream out a lot more meat than the > oversize shafts. no? Quite true. In my case the wear was more than the oversize shaft would cover, plus the oversize reamer was way expensive, so I went with the standard shaft & bushing route. > has any one used these and if so how did you like? The bushing installation turned out a lot easier than I had expected. Lacking the tools to do it right, I cobbled up a center by clamping a piece of scrap wood in the drill press and using an extra-long 1/4" bit to drill a hole that I could mount a 5 flute countersink into, as a center. Then without moving the press table, I held the carb by hand with one side against the 'center' while I carefully drilled into the other side. Used a drop of Loctite to secure the bushing in the slightly oversize (but not much) hole. On the first carb, I had to borrow a 5/16" valve stem reamer; but the second carb came out perfect without reaming. I've lost track of when that was, maybe around 1990 or so. Anyway, those carbs are still in use (I moved them from the wrecked 3A to the 'new' TR3). Next time, though, I will use the "backwards reamer" approach. What they don't tell you is that the new shafts are not drilled for the pins that locate the throttle stops. Getting those located at just the right angle, and just the right distance from the throttle plate slot, turned out to be the hardest part for me. I just recently realized that the front carb stop was slightly too far back, and so was not locating the shaft properly fore/aft, leading to erratic idle rpm (that always seemed to creep up when the engine was hot). I added a .010" shim which helped a lot, but I think I need to go back and recenter the throttle plate again as it still hangs up just a bit. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 17:26:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E962D0BB5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:26:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD3E2D0B3C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.20] helo=mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TXhqk-00071Q-Jh for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:26:02 -0500 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TXhqk-0006mU-8F; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:26:02 -0500 Received: from webmail17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.17]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id NQS21k00L0N5H5E01QS2KZ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:26:02 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=Ee67gtBCPnUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5p73VxX04uhTDhcCdvYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=I9JNVUzGqAePsMaV:21 a=9TLTfKtBk1z0Ak0J:21 a=NXqU3YP/RUmPXXhrMXkjfA==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TXhqR-0006vm-OJ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:25:44 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:25:44 -0500 References: <1352660083.9849.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:25:44 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Frank Fisher" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have installed the throttle shaft bushings with good success. But you have to have a piloted reamer or a modified reamer with a 5/16 shaft long enough to pass through both sides of the carb. I do this work on a metal cutting lathe with slow spindle speeds, Remember not to ream all the way through. Leave about a sixteenth inch on the butterfly side for each bushing. Greg G. Osseo, MN > i try to support T-R-F every opportunity, but their web site and printed > literature just confound me. > some time back i seem to recall they had a carburetor kit that used > bushings instead of oversize throttle shafts. > as i have a brand new set of throttle shafts that would be a less > expensive route. > i can call TRF tomorrow for the part number. > but it seems to me, i would have to ream out a lot more meat than the > oversize shafts. no? > has any one used these and if so how did you like? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 11 17:41:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49042D0B46 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:41:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033DD2D0A41 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:40:57 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Ee67gtBCPnUA:10 a=EKiCKwLzaNfyoYtvIQMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=d8GmZs-AUzihSloq:21 a=87QxYkH6l4CJU-il:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B4/CA-21565-4E540A05; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:42:13 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:42:18 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3APjAIlT2rYKn7Tjqrytpgd4jH0gAKcqOwAAGRhYA= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What they don't tell you is that the new shafts are not drilled for the > pins that locate the throttle stops. I forgot to mention: Drill for the pins _before_ you cut the shaft to length. That way, if you goof, you can turn the shaft end-to-end and try again. The extra hole will be hidden under the spring, and won't hurt anything. Don't forget to deburr the hole (both sides) before doing a trial fitting. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 13:30:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C567F2D0EEE for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:30:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F42D0EB3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:24:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id lz20so2942275obb.14 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:25:32 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=lLHdqqomGFvdVhhcDRBB+rCsLn8SQbFlJcISkz5UDbs=; b=WRAkMhH1on/WbK/3jtkPkYQMWzublo7Q5Ky/havtGRm9WPnXP2pP101JgOhe9xQ1ug rlw8a7fUoIogqtP6cWYJVJOvIYfbuNlb23c5sIYiGsnpthZE1nZhS7nosgJtRn82pa4u 5bGS2GVJCxSubu2sk6InWEjfYXQXc/U4sXo/n9Bky+GlPa6IuGjcmT3Wd1zd1PfKb5uX Yeb9Ng1wMW23tMBMxpFP98Yf5Z01B5AEIzXUqA5svJULygMydNggQ4X07DQmBMXlsoYZ 4V/1kfO7g2N9xGWpqnOEvBmeobgk8dv4nCkPZKj6itFuLjB9BF53rlCv4JhlKFZS9YC2 jK4A== Received: by 10.182.21.135 with SMTP id v7mr16386844obe.101.1352751931977; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm7954663obd.18.2012.11.12.12.25.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:25:31 -0800 (PST) From: "James Henningsen" To: References: <509E85ED.3030506@sprynet.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:25:25 -0500 Thread-Index: AQKllYz/yCH+GKjU6qF7tyE7mC6wtwEpfZqIli2wDVA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] FW: [Marlboro_Raceway] Lanky Foushee arrangements and memorial comments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FYi - For those fans of Group 44, Lankey Foushee, mechanic to the team, just passed away. See notice below. Jim Henningsen Please distribute to all our friends. I plan on seeing you there Sunday. Lawton Langston Foushee, Jr * Lawton Langston Foushee, Jr., 75, of Sanford, passed away on November 8, 2012 at Central Carolina Hospital. He was born on September 18, 1937 to the late Lawton, Sr. and Vera Foushee. Lawton proudly served in the USAF from 1956-1961. During his time in the Air Force he was assigned to "Presidential Aircraft Maintenance" and specialized in maintenance and trip preparation of aircraft assigned to convey the President of the United States and high ranking military and cabinet level civilians. After his service in the Air Force he went on to work for a Pontiac dealership and then went on to work for Group 44 racecars, where he later retired from in 1997. He is survived by his brother; Gerald Ray Foushee; sister, Joan Foushee Lunsford; niece, Deborah Leigh Lunsford and nephew, Delano A. Lunsford; great-nieces, Amelia, Deanna and Sara and one great great nephew, Toby Alian. A visitation will be held on Sunday from 2:00-4:00PM at the Miller-Boles Funeral Home in Sanford. A graveside service will be held on Monday 12:00 noon at Buffalo Cemetery. Rememberances to: http://millerboles.com/lawton-langston-foushee-jr/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of lines.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 15:52:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FB02D1042 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:52:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095A22D0F9F for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:51:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qACMqIOj005030; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:52:18 -0500 Received: from core-dld005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dld005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.165.17]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5B1DBE000081; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:52:18 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net, MrGil@mgcarclub.com From: George Haynes Received: from 72.230.233.142 by webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.27) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:52:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:52:18 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352760738; bh=2kj+gDKBVJarIPP+05JmbdapRUcQ33OYNlXo0xnGMvY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bJCKdeyMqBYIKXXjMZ9S1B5mWEKP1aEosFXn/baQ4srNQxR3g1UFgdjqShzu0bdCq HXlUv0r3a8VDty3vyNykmebzhtB/HY2EcYgIr8UVTGuBwwzSud2QkT5syQGDquIdTI SE61N5NyIaAMvWHuJWe/FtjJ+FQMzgI1n+0aeK9M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850a17da22d51 Subject: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The car with the problem isn't a Triumph, but the best trouble-shooters are on this list, so: A 1952 MG-TD has a very random ignition miss. Like once or twice every minute or two. Duration is not long enough to stall the engine, just make it lumpy, briefly. We have a tester connected between one ignition wire and its spark plug and the little neon lamp skips along with the engine miss. So it's not a fuel delivery problem, but float levels, air balance and richness are good. As is the fuel pump. New: plugs, wires, rotor, cap, points, condenser and coil. We eliminated the ignition switch by jumping directly from the battery to the coil. Timing set correctly. Mechanical advance working smoothly, as tested on distributor machine. Compression good in all cylinders and valves adjusted correctly. When it's running, it runs great but... Still, the occasional hiccup. Someone suggested a defective generator, which might be grounding intermittently, shorting the ignition system. Is that possible? We have not disconnected the generator leads yet, but will try it. Any other thoughts? Many thanks. We have already spent wayyy too much time diagnosing this problem! George Haynes ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 15:56:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A612D102F for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:56:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD462D0CF1 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:56:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MDE00BXJD4470D0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:57:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Carl TR" To: "TR List " Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:57:42 -0500 Expiry-date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:00:00 -0500 Thread-index: Ac3BKR7r74nppwDGRhaACGPiU9R1/w== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] 1960 TR3a looks like a good candidate for a restoration. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Other-2-door-1960-TR3A-/190753036231? pt=US_Cars_Trucks &hash=item2c69c457c7 has overdrive (not mentioned in description) 1960 TR3A with new wiring harness, new brake and clutch master cylinder, new complete clutch, new electronic ignition, all new hoses, new intake and exaust valves, new pistons, rings and sleeves, new battery, new steering head, new distributor, new exhaust. Car comes with wire wheels. Frame solid. Engine spins like a top but won't start and I don't know why. Needs interior, top, and paint. Located in NJ so hopefully the hurricane didn't create any issues. NFI Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:04:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A82D10A2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:04:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2EF2D0E6A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:59:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294702E01B; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:03:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:01:34 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8CF8F3F803B98C1-B28-42B09@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> Cc: MrGil@mgcarclub.com Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try another rotor, we've had ones fresh out of the box cause problems. Also how much wobble is there in the distributor shaft? mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:07:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832D12D11C2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:07:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EC2472D0966 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:06:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 13445 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2012 00:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.83) with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2012 00:07:19 -0000 From: "Dave" To: "TR List " References: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:03:49 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] 1960 TR3a looks like a good candidate for a restoration. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net they painted the engine block red!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Carl TR Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 4:57 PM To: TR List Subject: [TR] 1960 TR3a looks like a good candidate for a restoration. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-Other-2-door-1960-TR3A-/190753036231? pt=US_Cars_Trucks &hash=item2c69c457c7 has overdrive (not mentioned in description) 1960 TR3A with new wiring harness, new brake and clutch master cylinder, new complete clutch, new electronic ignition, all new hoses, new intake and exaust valves, new pistons, rings and sleeves, new battery, new steering head, new distributor, new exhaust. Car comes with wire wheels. Frame solid. Engine spins like a top but won't start and I don't know why. Needs interior, top, and paint. Located in NJ so hopefully the hurricane didn't create any issues. NFI Carl ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:08:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EF22D1251 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:08:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4692D1123 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:08:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208572E055; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:12:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:10:33 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8CF8F3F803B98C1-B28-42B09@webmail-d137.sysops.aol.com> Cc: MrGil@mgcarclub.com Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another thing I just remembered. We had a Healey in once which exhibited the same sort of symptoms. After many frustrating hours I found the culprit by accident. The wrench in my greasy hand slipped and hit the wire leading from the coil to the distributor. Engine stopped dead. Bad crimp in the wire! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:21:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16172D1111 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:21:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952522D10F4 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:14:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so12330075ied.14 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FyLpNQ4cDECv4OHILyGKivXZnmSUzKWbqL06qhMo2QM=; b=oSQBwyCZ3wQtsUeNA8kojR7tE30xQunmHg1Oh/bPzKowDmikp/sbj/o0/o0RO7UlK/ F/KyIeWW4xGaYBihjvQVZaycnOhdsYtwzwC+H4IvazUl3mIaKjvgvkjNJ0NNefdp9kBU GUaOaT45I4Y34SLNZz0o9FfKpuUrOjsH1lMiaGUREed2uGyrHyK0xDDL06ix8u9EUT0j xOlCUn1JsKLRxwAmuqGmQ6LNfJ2WSTD+77qu4tTDZXC6IdtedPc0zfnc4dP3H/aQmkTg zmv7txiFEYALqOFDEuCtfaeGSBovEcpcYL0Usf5pwwuXWHwZnK3wUgt1oFeTg3E00L4b eSGg== Received: by 10.50.158.201 with SMTP id ww9mr9711271igb.22.1352765757429; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.251.204 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:15:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:15:57 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Forum Back Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In case you haven't checked lately, the BCF has returned in its new config. Can never have too much TR talk it seems. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:41:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FE82D1251 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:41:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1782D11E8 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:39:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6CB2E068 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:43:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:41:44 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Nice little note. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This showed up this morning on our local club list: There is a small group of old folks that meet for breakfast each day at the local McDonalds; so about once a week I fire up the MGB and join in with them. Today with the cold air (in the high teens) and some snow at the gutters I backed the MGB out of the shop just before daybreak. It is a thrill to hear the engine come to life, to smell the new interior and feel the strong firm steering as I look out the shortened windscreen. Each shift of the gears brings a smile to my face as I listen as the RPM increase. I am not too sure that life can get any better than this........ Pretty nice sentiment, regardless of the marque. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 17:53:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2162D11F5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:53:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512532D1193 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:53:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F2BA638000096 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mod003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.9]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CC756E000081 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:54:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:54:50 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352768090; bh=kgrjlMPX+GxuDJiTGtnBsy2S/x6KJgFRy9SV72viEWo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YCIUqScVbl+qZrTJnEvfFiqJoULBMZCQ0hlk2fo1o8ry2nQwjIRraQn5DmNJ43t5u Vrzggdu9wBxK6VwjQmo6eRGWqTA6AYgYexMllV7/PpXdSLTZ5/d+SCBjkN/UC5BIhg cUcvZjoie+o6wsGvahNEk8xGsygCWTwhHtcHEb+s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c750a19a5a0c69 Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How about the little wire in the distributor? If it is intermittently contacting the breaker plate bye bye spark. Dave In a message dated 11/12/2012 4:52:54 PM Central Standard Time, ghaynestr4@aol.com writes: > New: plugs, wires, rotor, cap, points, condenser and coil. We eliminated > the > ignition switch by jumping directly from the battery to the coil. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 18:11:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1A62D11B0 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:11:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA2F2D0EA2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:11:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from lb7f8hsrpno-svcs.dcs.int.inet (HELO pd5mr2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2012 18:12:07 -0700 cv=sH2rcTPMH8sZWJQugFiFMmIrvnKGGFDYU3zbfg3PZEo= c=1 sm=1 a=Ovd1GYT3SyAA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xsV4OPbWAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=304ZHnUKKyonJplhe-oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=jRWNFZ8fTgZZF6ly:21 a=LJ_xiNfoSZydkQUD:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds026.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd5mr2no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2012 18:12:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:12:07 -0700 (MST) From: Doug Hamilton To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/7.1.4_GA_2555) Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't been following this thread from the beginning so I don't know if this has been mentioned but Z Therapy used to do roller throttle shafts with rubber seals for most models of SU carbs. I haven't used them myself but have seen their work and it looks good. http://www.ztherapy.com/ Doug Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:42:18 -0800 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 carb bushings > What they don't tell you is that the new shafts are not drilled for the > pins that locate the throttle stops. I forgot to mention: Drill for the pins _before_ you cut the shaft to length. That way, if you goof, you can turn the shaft end-to-end and try again. The extra hole will be hidden under the spring, and won't hurt anything. Don't forget to deburr the hole (both sides) before doing a trial fitting. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 18:31:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC2F2D09FD for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:30:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E44B2D0FC2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:30:05 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=cjMwA6zxswoA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=cWo6MFG1zw1zU7NuQjoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7ziGmj9GWucA:10 a=n-RC-9wN4QvbaJEl:21 a=uVT5Az0uqhqP7MIL:21 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:59002] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id B6/0E-21565-8E2A1A05; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:31:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:31:20 -0500 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > How about the little wire in the distributor? If it is intermittently > contacting the breaker plate bye bye spark. I agree, but there are two little wires in the distributor, one from the points to the side terminal and another from the moving point plate to the distributor body. Either of them can be internally intermittent (conductor broken), while looking fine. And they both flex when the vacuum changes (the vacuum advance moves), which may close the gap. The wires are special extra-flexible wire, but you can use ordinary stranded wire as a temporary replacement. I won't say the generator scenario is impossible, but it strikes me as extremely unlikely. A healthy battery will put out 1000 amps or more while still supplying enough voltage to run the ignition. The lead to the generator simply won't carry enough to short out the battery (and will let the smoke out almost instantly if you try). Wouldn't hurt to check the wire from the dizzy to the coil too, if you haven't already. It is less prone to fail, but it is still possible. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 19:12:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F202D115D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:12:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BD92D1104 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so1085751pbc.14 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:12:57 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zZUneRTkSyNddSwXYhwN84RX2iYqMMX54M8Yby7F4Xo=; b=uTv5zmOSTtTYZTsBWAbIXPHAeCNUJSdqr8Ravh5hWmTA7D4ifrAsnhLkZcPnC7hYxz XlS9d+rZnyb2ewNZkExtpQ5Gv1Y/Ap2/WH94oyfcNJ/YQlaF3QTwT4c7DIuDoioPxlzn WezVmdMNbRVyFdNsHeWBQ9NQaRGqWFmnJV9bjBCf9/0nnhCixTW6kFTJEtyyqcpKHTtE e7k2I0b7GtcYKiVlu654SBzN8NflInzAITIMRM0f/k+KwjDtSpCHG3AgUlr/uBk80k7f Agq3Qv8unWFE9gfskfdbqjUzIbB+/SriviXRSo/wTzKCzfUk4MBIif9/FjaXQmfc5B3W cCNg== Received: by 10.68.137.136 with SMTP id qi8mr55717572pbb.148.1352772777353; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-32-170.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.32.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pf4sm5100621pbc.38.2012.11.12.18.12.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:12:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:12:54 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <20121113013120.0NAXH.198937.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/12/12 6:31 PM, Randall wrote: > Wouldn't hurt to check the wire from the dizzy to the coil too, if you > haven't already. It is less prone to fail, but it is still possible. > Randall Happened to me once. The wire was evidently damaged during the crimp (have since got a proper crimper to replace the multiple whatever crimper tool). The constant engine vibrations on the wire cause the wire to break inside the insulation. looked perfect but the ignition occasionally missed then as it got worse it missed enough to cut out the engine then started right up & acted fine again at an idle. I replaced a major part of the ignition before I accidentally bent the wire while the engine was running. From the outside the wire & crimp looked perfect. Since then shaking that wire is done early on when troubleshooting a miss. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 19:44:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D982D12BC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:44:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673CC2D1222 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:42:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121113024352.VZVS29577.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:43:52 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id Nqjs1k0064qRjhw01qjsZb; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:43:52 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zRjeNbbp_cUA:10 a=Rn9sGKXRkMEtCljNE6wA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=wAVxFcIZHdjvu0t2fSIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=v60wHomnRs5hItxT:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:43:57 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3BSLo1EFoRroHeQRqqWvqoC1vOeQ== Subject: [TR] Grill badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A few weeks ago I floated the idea of doing another run of grill badges for the Triumph list. Since the minimum quantity is 25, I would need substantial demand. So far only two people have expressed interest. If there are others interested in receiving one or more at a cost of $35.00 each, please let me know. Otherwise, I will not be able to follow through on the project. Cheers, Joe Curry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 19:58:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739DE2D1284 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:58:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAA22D1244 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:49:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 02:50:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.194] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 02:50:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 02:50:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 21093 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2012 02:50:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352775053; bh=TEjyC3N5siJyIXqkH3sR7Dx7XyXO1l5ibT73MMDLv24=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cRvaXQ2OPGN59fx5udHm9sJxp/nYFfmi0eosyBjzkUgR9zXYKTtQ+s1PMWppfA0KO19kh4SLOtAmKqPTNbQINgCXh10tBP8G9V+NCPq7iTdn67aNFrc4qcmfTBvOipWO5YgQREn2rHpy1FVzyAN1F9hf4KacTURRlZ9lyorkYWM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AbjDbfpIXXFV4jJA3i9Nj0M0vFOiwkBY3D62OQLi6C8JE+IBOResC8E0N3ipYL1ls7SUCOIUhng7j4GSuSgfjCpOhJa0X3puC3hwiolryOk8bOtbK2Ny3als2KB8YrmO9UAiMuW+GmesWZPU48vt4GpDka7laE5Pj7GLRYtprOY=; JpjHNbtBhPasQg3duJbG88EhnPc5nGZU7JvNwpbA7Bij_wnlXAKj.bBhoWp9 GzN.oVebGxGFsFW_caF4Jf0GHTwkHD4xxEmbqDEiwWOYPxYW5C2l9KXkbB6. anKeSdgFuRKSCRyhRfKO3a60njWWqxvIGssBkq.oBA06atbmftF1eh6BseNV u9xzzFc2cbXfqaQaxeCSjj.as8EkG1pIUZD1Zvt92K3zVFZGTrugqGu1MOAo ACf3lAAqIrg7jwWM1g6Vo6yOHMI90MzclgXdEYGdWi4n54gi1oTYZW313.fa vk4GOE79_AEIrtV3j.iUSGFjR.Hk1pMhqhUNWOFWpWktjveoHdWR3GVseJBf DAnWLFdS7lDfecilhSVVyy_4s3zX4b_KQM0ep2wq5LWXkBmiA2Hx8EggTI0z Fkh74C7ch65hR8k4OfX_RzXkJ_LY7a3LxpHhAxO3AdosqCyx4 Received: from [96.240.88.135] by web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:50:53 PST TWVzc2FnZTogNQpEYXRlOiBGcmksIDIgTm92IDIwMTIgOToxNToxNiAtMDUwMApGcm9tOiA8ZG1lcmljYXNAYXVzdGluLnJyLmNvbT4KVG86IHRyaXVtcGhzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0ClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gUmVwbGFjaW5nIGNsdXRjaCBtYXN0ZXIgaW4gYSBUUjQKTWVzc2FnZS1JRDogPDIwMTIxMTAyMTQxNTE3LjBLN0wzLjgzOTA3LnJvb3RAaHJuZHZhLXdlYjAyLXowMT4KQ29udGVudC1UeXBlOiB0ZXh0L3BsYWluOyBjaGFyc2V0PXV0Zi04CgpJIG5lZWQgdG8gcmVwbGFjZSB0aGUgY2x1dGNoIE1DIGkBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:50:53 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "dmericas@austin.rr.com" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message: 5 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 9:15:16 -0500 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 text/plain; charset=utf-8 I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing this job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop manual suggests is required. Can anyone comment on how hard it is to replace the MC without removing the brake MC and pedal assembly? Thanks. Dean 1965 TR4 ------------------------- Hi Dean! Well I did this this past summer for a friend. you'll need a 1/2" socket (I think that's the size), a Short Extension, & a Ratchet. Work on the bottom bolt first in removing the MC & revers it when installing it. Now if you are really patient, you can remove the circle clip & NOT remove the fork & rod hardware. No IF you feel you have to remove BOTH, then E-mail me & I'll tell you how to remove the Brake MC so you Do NOT have to bleed the brake system. I'm planning on having this thread (Removing Brake MC without having to bleed the system) in my 2nd edition of my manual (Cosmo's TR4/A E-mail Repair Manual). I just have to get around to install pictures for easier comprehension. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 20:28:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3441B2D12B4 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:28:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FF852D118D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:22:03 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 18855 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2012 03:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth12.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.35) with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2012 03:23:19 -0000 From: "Dave" To: References: <50A19748.1030105@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:22:52 -0600 Subject: [TR] door issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I actually have a problem with two different cars first, the 63 tr4, which I acquired about a year ago, and had sat for 20+ years in a shed, the driver side door is stuck. its almost closed, slightly ajar. this happened twice. the first time, we pulled on the inside door handle and it opened. then it got shut again, and now its stuck. I'm going to guess I have to pull the door panel, and hope I can pull the wire and the latch? any instructions for removing the panel? never done that. on any car. ever. second car - 75 spitfire - (we acquired this car really cheap, runs and drives, had to do floorpans, etc., and my son is getting it) - the door opens and closes just fine. sort of. sometimes the external handle works, sometimes it doesn't. the inside always works. let me guess - another door panel to remove? some adjustment on the outside handle? or is it the latch on the b post? thanks! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 20:44:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C562D12F9 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:44:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E01F2D1110 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:43:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id XOF01453; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:44:53 -0600 From: "Michael Marr" To: "Joe Curry" , References: <306975F21FBD44FE94E59D18927B772C@Vista> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:44:48 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Grill badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have two of the originals - one in the box, waiting to be installed on the 3A's grill (probably in 2018 at the rate I am working on it) and one on the grill of my F150. They are very well designed and are a quality product. I can heartily recommend them. (There, Joe, now you owe me a pint or three...) Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe Curry" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:43 PM To: Subject: [TR] Grill badges > A few weeks ago I floated the idea of doing another run of grill badges > for > the Triumph list. Since the minimum quantity is 25, I would need > substantial demand. So far only two people have expressed interest. If > there are others interested in receiving one or more at a cost of $35.00 > each, please let me know. Otherwise, I will not be able to follow through > on the project. > > > > Cheers, > > Joe Curry > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 12 21:14:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBD52D1320 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:14:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0E22D12E2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:06:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAD483xq026882 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:08:03 -0500 Received: from core-dlc005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dlc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.182.81]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 056AEE00008D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:08:03 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: George Haynes Received: from 72.230.233.142 by webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.219) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:08:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:08:02 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352779683; bh=xTIrtKI6UxhSI2hbvxoHehPYkjUQ1aOftKAVa2Tk0us=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MMPa681VNMl2GNy/f/vcwYm8fFhV2dg0yb19ikprdNJwcfebuckActThQ0w4iezfY ZiyybPDQe7+Q4/BCgo0hjvB0+gDs+CtrPKEl2JFvRcPl2HEVDSkXegnvz9LKMFSaYf Qk0++gZtabuFWbEkqduV4HEzmoSdCUA//1dtDato= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a50a1c7a349dc Subject: [TR] More: Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all for the assistance with my ignition problem. First, the MG-TD has no vacuum advance unit, hence no moving points plate and no small grounding wire inside to fail. Next, we made up a new low voltage wire from coil to distributor. with loop connectors soldered at each end. No joy there. We'll check out the engine and distributor grounding. George ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 06:20:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1924E2D142A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:20:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC2E2D13C0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:10:13 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YZuhW98S9CIA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=qHIeSzxQJHr3rQJ7DpMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:56566] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id D8/33-15169-10742A05; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:11:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:11:29 +0000 From: To: Cosmo Kramer Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cosmo -- I did the deed last weekend with no particular drama using a 1/2" socket and the shortest 1/4" drive ratchet and extension I own. The greatest challenge was getting the bottom bolt started for reassembly. Chasing the threads with a tap helped. The suggestion to leave the mounting bolts loose before attaching the hydraulic line was also very helpful. Since I was replacing the MC I didn't need to worry about disassembly of the unit itself. Amazingly, my pressure bleeder cap fit the new MC perfectly and bleeding the system was a snap. Thanks again to this community for the technical support. Dean 1965 TR4 1974 2000 GTV 1976 Giulia Nuova Super 2L ---- Cosmo Kramer wrote: > Message: 5 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 9:15:16 -0500 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Replacing clutch master in a TR4 I need to replace the clutch MC in my TR4. I seem to recall doing this job long ago without taking out the pedal box as the shop manual suggests is required. Can anyone comment on how hard it is to replace the MC without removing the brake MC and pedal assembly? Thanks. Dean 1965 TR4 -------------------------B B Hi Dean! Well I did this this past summer for a friend. you'll need a 1/2" socket (I think that's the size), a Short Extension, & a Ratchet. Work on the bottom bolt first in removing the MC & revers it when installing it. Now if you are really patient, you can remove the circle clip & NOT remove the fork & rod hardware. B No IF you feel you have to remove BOTH, then E-mail me & I'll tell you how to remove the Brake MC so you Do NOT have to bleed the brake system. B I'm planning on having this thread (Removing Brake MC without having to bleed the system) in my 2nd edition of my manual (Cosmo's TR4/A E-mail Repair Manual). I just have to get around to install pictures for easier comprehension. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 10:12:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9C32D149C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:12:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3F2D1468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 17:04:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.173.37] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 17:04:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Nov 2012 17:04:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352826277; bh=o27Te1KVjoii8eSndoYXbJQ0SOPUfoeL571df6ojynI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=JuFomJ80WDoeaPQ8f9FZqJAqIN6N2tsEUNcHXfCQcts3vDbisRIHUMThn08KRQMAcUZeMg+H8cc6pEaqiscuFa2XqmPFr+E0kdlPg+1/M0fni679+MAGA/Jbo+Ia46YV4GWq1OGKa3uQT4sEMUBl3hXoynQh8RSVZC2LpHt2PeE= mwecV1qY_VY4K9zJeRvPF.29DWgcRiOTLOGXM31cxo7yV2NqYLi2IMPua9wa LZvK53aHJXjS8mVfCHhyVMYqMQ9xi2IddS53OaTNFGAr8V9bGBnT5..8_1Am HXWNXGYwH4h1.F81hPDvcNN21hnwhoOwtZXXqAyDTt70TkNhgcOaG4jBH92I t55GXV3rQQFRYG5wjySh68XA6u6wfV8L0vADBvu.EiQiSitaHYz.W.kYfuO7 gYecwP.6Svc6FvcPVQiGmmiAOXuk8KhIhfRwz7ilhQrN_.4AFGtJ9UU.bWSO 9hY4_73.slaGZ23twfkhvMf85wgEOpSRmOkfNZadUtkFBieTHzR4fNnSDdkH eNL8sYsXVkIVkGexmNIqCQGcjZXdSn1en39JAdjhBq6nxgxpafbUKoyzVecK XKUikG8y2SBfUXYfyfX9kiklYs8AnoG4QhaFMrbXetE3BhyxMtwVDs1J.Q1f btXz9mbCTiAgTbO3TwWuo Received: from [192.168.1.148] (wbeech@24.35.137.133 with xymcookie) by smtp121-mob.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2012 17:04:37 +0000 UTC References: <8CF8F6B9C143EAB-4E0-46E17@webmail-m036.sysops.aol.com> From: WBEECH Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:04:36 -0600 To: George Haynes Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] More: Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't forget to swap out the rotor, even if new. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:08 PM, George Haynes wrote: Thanks to all for the assistance with my ignition problem. First, the MG-TD has no vacuum advance unit, hence no moving points plate and no small grounding wire inside to fail. Next, we made up a new low voltage wire from coil to distributor. with loop connectors soldered at each end. No joy there. We'll check out the engine and distributor grounding. George ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 11:18:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608C42D084B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:18:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424072D028B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:09:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121113181033.VHWO29577.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id P6AY1k00d4qRjhw016AY3N; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:10:32 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Cc5QnLz4O5EA:10 a=XFmrohW2AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sjtTwYOFIENqMqDCjTEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=1IY7wJxD-RAA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Alex & Janet Thomson'" References: <306975F21FBD44FE94E59D18927B772C@Vista> <000301cdc189$aa2600b0$fe720210$@charter.net> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:10:41 -0700 Thread-Index: AQIKMNbqu2Xe1q0UofcgvrKs4IwgAJdusXBAgAB+iGA= Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Grill badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://spitlist.info/Grill_Badge.JPG Here is what they look like. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Alex & Janet Thomson [mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:29 AM To: 'Joe Curry' Subject: RE: [TR] Grill badges Joe - For those of us who are new to the badges, can you reference an image? Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:44 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Grill badges A few weeks ago I floated the idea of doing another run of grill badges for the Triumph list. Since the minimum quantity is 25, I would need substantial demand. So far only two people have expressed interest. If there are others interested in receiving one or more at a cost of $35.00 each, please let me know. Otherwise, I will not be able to follow through on the project. Cheers, Joe Curry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 13 14:21:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594C52D0631 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:21:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DAB2D04F1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:13:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4D5D53800023B; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dob005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.145]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1E921E000086; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:14:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chip19474@aol.com Full-name: Chip19474 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:14:36 -0500 (EST) To: ghaynestr4@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, MrGil@mgcarclub.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352841276; bh=9Mu4c3EMTBJBv7qY08uj1IfP1GqU9gHHFEJvGeOXetg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D2DQWIKQInzzs/9dtXsFdeJI3r/ahG7vb07OQoRazYvKUHBg6PpLX8nbzsyGe4f54 GdDeCEqyveiPFDEn+6jmQ2rISpWPPlb25agEPJbXjsC9YA8v0qlSdeFR0T7YkaAPUV jqg3ip3IdQrgjcvdvSN5rN7ucJVeImwI7Z8iS2AY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290950a2b83c7a5d Subject: Re: [TR] Help with Ignition Hiccup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Check the spade (or ring) connector at the coil to be sure it's not loose or missing a few strands of wire. If that doesn't help, swap out the rotor for a new one....if that doesn't help, swap out the condensor.....all of my "favorite thngs" for gremlin misfires:) Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1962 TR4 CT2052L In a message dated 11/12/2012 5:53:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ghaynestr4@aol.com writes: Any other thoughts? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 09:29:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F19C2D07C4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:29:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5E52D079D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:25:09 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=n1JMsdJbwpb0v3KlfFC/funVol1IUcLsnALKyttlj+Tj36cHOOvAClJup4wP/tTe; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-12l25c1.cable.mindspring.com ([69.81.21.129] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TYfn6-0004LD-Df for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:26:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:26:12 -0600 From: Pat Fischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <50A19748.1030105@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Nice little note. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, that IS a nice note! Makes me want to go driving! Pat On 11/12/2012 6:41 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > This showed up this morning on our local club list: > > There is a small group of old folks that meet for breakfast each day > at the > local McDonalds; so about once a week I fire up the MGB and join in > with > them. Today with the cold air (in the high teens) and some snow at the > gutters I backed the MGB out of the shop just before daybreak. It is a > thrill to hear the engine come to life, to smell the new interior > and feel > the strong firm steering as I look out the shortened windscreen. > Each shift > of the gears brings a smile to my face as I listen as the RPM > increase. I > am not too sure that life can get any better than this........ > > > Pretty nice sentiment, regardless of the marque. > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pfischer@rmi.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 10:17:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508BC2D07CC for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:17:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C991C2D07A4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:14:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 17:15:46 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.157] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 17:15:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 17:15:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12380 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2012 17:15:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352913345; bh=4t+Z28RoLgwPHanEY9H09Mwut6v9zlmMnBpL+c7yu9Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0ARMfJCD1344slYTZY1flukP2vs9XqZF7hk8GEx0bVnaHsCygmpTScV1ZC+GnxKF9dUc+K9Ia4SK5a3ngRTILSFQ4J1ewWzx/mg3XZjZPKIZjRDCXvMuPpwy0yKwekzb6H/3gzB/qC81xrzTN+amhf5vlnJjEsWZbJMAhoHeBtQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4yFBPS9g+QFRQIs4P4myk7Bgo0/NmLk4ar1q3z+3K4+Bjgj2ihvKmAfeZ+wn5q0EM6AgugZ2fuJGF9zSM0HDLjoNZ9UzC7dnaM2lnRkZROrrzH/5CQFiQpPgzxGhQ4jMcFfoLPtSI1HYXif/YguSERFdlhPZr0mTcZljfMu4h9U=; xNNheMWzs_M2naGJxWYwStl0f.7mTTrGiOMZhcOMcZPU0C2aUiGSgq.mA9nQ GB5heBRBfpp_A5sw2Y9vxX6VqhMWXM_DIRXa7j5HnhJkGD4s6CQrPo_JcOMx J6eNGkaney3jM5rPxBXIg6OMjQ7PwbN3tHEmOGAxZ8SW81P1QTngld5z4t29 Z1XOVacZN3V.h6g87oFhzeQC9mNRB28glTXtSsFoWiJbAgjzzmfc7IrVYs.t as3o7.7cPhktRuayNRRApa4yx7Fh6qdTLzNFkKFJ18_oD1.OCUH8Q1aZeJNP TF._U0LrgqOXyjqGfwuV5YmUo5HwFjePZShMhvo5MCncUCV_k_0T6wLEx.qs 8x8JBR1aqVR4tSZqUuv2ug0GpKEZC9715JQeC8vcQJzd7CVIH2a_TFAH.QLf uyjyVYeVMojgO_cwK1GrwpCGncSXEeinrF3LtE.Fj631Hj7GU6o6EBz.K9RT 3b_ePVm0Ds3tJIsHEw5HOW3LUdqkwNO3Kl0eKYubHDP5LoCkLbmZPfFkUO5p 0WeG6BNhGWTPFC5mSNhCL0m2qKQMLlzeN2t.WKhlR0zR9Ee2AFGyKSUUZY9B GR3RxaD4F48tb0sLQINNNDUCVzpQQW1LmktFtUA-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:15:45 PST UmFuIHdoZW4gcGFya2VkICEhCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZWJheS5jb20vaXRtLzE5NTctVHJpdW1waC1UUjMtY29udmVydGlibGUtc21hbGwtbW91dGgtc3Bva2Utd2hlZWxzLXctZmFjdG9yeS1rbm9jay1vZmYtaHVicy0vMjYxMTI2MTk4MTI4P3B0PVNhbHZhZ2VfUGFydHNfQ2FycyZoYXNoPWl0ZW0zY2NjNTU5MzcwJnZ4cD1tdHIBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:15:45 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs , Paul and Hope Burrows , Curt McDowell Subject: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ran when parked !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 10:32:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777FB2C0D12 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:32:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDFD2D0288 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:27:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so537862iaj.14 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:28:27 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aHzz7uyczNvtUgoaXNMssWP1711fT7njjZLldp1oCa0=; b=MJ8cbvGJ43S0Ch2FdKwbeHIg8AR8uio+3GlnR0/etlxsdcGdb+Y3rFnCWV7T0it+/X ifeqqDWPggI2tf97HrxlYuZTDwH9UnVWLRZuefDRaeUfZN+F6tWrn7mwcABGxfBqyAQy 0dJO2eEAcVbTREQmJ5bOoTvho+ss8jSQJ/FMy0kcFRtuEobQF73s+6U0EI7BJylESYso NPi5lZzj8Ni+OCzWSq2dQg9dG64iuNB+wm3FlMmynXgjzdEX+3JMoRE0V/XwNdctPYf1 8WyaLWPBAXoeY2AWBroQI7wi7EXxSrcy5Gw6iWsvIL9sacpthT0edi6NdSxUX1mE1NoJ gQWA== Received: by 10.43.98.196 with SMTP id cp4mr24810379icc.25.1352914105769; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.251.204 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:28:25 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mercy! The photos of the Titanic showed less rust. Frank, you should really have a "Viewer Discretion Advised" on a post like this. Geo On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > Ran when parked !! > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 10:37:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59592C0B16 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:37:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E5A2D026B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:36:43 -0700 (MST) a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=dg3hAEBnQ7UA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=lmOvmFQtWB8A:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=G0pmz01do3aumhfQaGMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:54828] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EB/A1-00785-8F6D3A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:38:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:38:00 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And the ad says knock off hubs. I would bet they would have to be cut off with a torch. I have never seen such rust on a 3. I have seen rusted floors, sills, frame, trunk, fenders but what can account for the amount of body rust here? Was this 3 stored outside near the ocean? Bob On 11/14/2012 12:28 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Mercy! The photos of the Titanic showed less rust. > > Frank, you should really have a "Viewer Discretion Advised" on a post like > this. > > Geo > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > >> Ran when parked !! >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 11:19:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C522D0801 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:19:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BAC2D07D9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:10:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 18:12:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 18:12:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 18:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 77495 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2012 18:12:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352916729; bh=6VbGyE/OLWlYtdZ5O7/Z0fQeJ3ddQ5eUc+pZl7rU1mM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d+RCA9NrRfjxw4l4eJorBUH8mVfTiHwWQmNTxyNe9Kpq4ASFHREdRDrjqPTPzAeV+k7zfOftYRQBgvX+tc9mhiQTB1GDZ4dMB0iPI5c/gJFDQg+Acw2dM3d2LNLG07MbkNJJK2F4yf+tb7acFtFTi1diMd2mcXsMR+jT+7yO5yY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OmlqEPqCI0JIi5WfCVviX3/OLZYvSkLCbXRdQIJy7x6c8J3q9n4XSfXbaCQEML0Oz2I9FeZHzlHBBoCqmAz3v9DDuIUrKLmbgrFXoj+7rzyGlN/lW++/kFpe3XWwtUfVVxbs0YN417wgpESirmkCgTgQ6pPn82q/vSwCcFVm4sA=; YxEnwwLHsu.LQykbYc7EaSCvafJ_5hkoHciEQsh14P2Iuxr0KTt7zk8P0ki4 UwZTSQVA5lRf8hVGPJj3GjyHe_WVFOxaSAQwzQ7OLB5REytPYYinkKqww4di rEru0zzrekdPWRdnczWw9WQJBLb_G6Q16AU6NrT_VtAvQGOG2lrYoyafL2ZX ZSPRGVlzKI32.4J378na83LaxQLMTg77IEyvUBGM3jwUbTMgxt_DyR2ioYCo L22iqZFyY7IA2RiVFZ50vEyFXsGei3SYedZn5Fhia6_faeatOH9U.xoFvGBJ LYiknW.boOdOi51DI.YVLiDOT3HSpxUwWz.tO2q2YDNm1gxGDJq7dlBCGars NSPwEISBOr7VQncFXXRyVRBZjMLT0423_c9.mwojEs5QIT6w9.amORK9vjZb lxtFnfdBRf6BMcGOoKfwrXgkI6cI98bd8w8g40iocU1NjsC87ZisI7iI8nRq QwrI9AsO1HP8.jIShqBG_PJGD6UMv80Ms8.zmLBy_s2uLbYeW2KTU9r1MY3T diV77Ha8jsg.txr3WFzDTuSHQMSwn.1CiFeXeCLoHCLxDCvvHcnbnzvhYbMy 0Ty_UwTQMzjmyddzTcbuDMhPVAki3CvGTsvmDw7lBdoh1ItUSZt.lMxf2pw- - Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:12:09 PST bGF1Z2hpbmcKIndhcm5pbmcsIG5vdCBzdWl0YWJsZSBmb3IgY2hpbGRyZW4sIHdvbWVuIGFuZCBvbGQgbWVuIgoKRnJvbTogR2VvIEhhaG4gPGFod2FobmVldHJAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogRnJhbmsgRmlzaGVyIDx5ZWxsb3d0cjNAeWFob28uY29tPiAKQ2M6IFRyaXVtcGhzIDx0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgTm92ZW1iZXIgMTQsIDIwMTIgOToyOCBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1RSXSAobm8gc3ViamVjdCkKCgpNZXJjeSHCoCBUaGUgcGhvdG9zIG9mIHRoZSBUaXQBMAEBAQE- References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Geo Hahn Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net laughing "warning, not suitable for children, women and old men" From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: Triumphs Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Mercy! The photos of the Titanic showed less rust. Frank, you should really have a "Viewer Discretion Advised" on a post like this. Geo On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: Ran when parked !! >http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheel s-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc5 59370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 11:24:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B302D0811 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:24:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0872D07C5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:24:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PSx61k0050mlR8UAFWRfKB; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:25:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PWRd1k00P4L5TyG8XWReGH; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:25:39 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Frank Fisher Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:25:37 -0700 References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: Triumphs , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Surprising that the $0.99 bid didn't meet the reserve. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 11:34:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C93E2D07EF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:34:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262522D07CD for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:30:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PQto1k0041zF43QA2WXnDB; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:31:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PWXl1k00r4L5TyG8kWXmbd; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:31:47 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:31:45 -0700 References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <94331560-5190-4F0B-8ACD-D4E2F761AAE1@comcast.net> Cc: Triumphs , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I missed the car dollies. They are at least worth something if they are included. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > Surprising that the $0.99 bid didn't meet the reserve. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > >> Ran when parked !! >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 11:37:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878662D0820 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:37:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f169.google.com (mail-ye0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D7E2D0383 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:37:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ye0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q11so174887yen.14 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:to:from:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=ne85MBvoXL3DbgHn0nR9RoT9T7HcI6UpZpDyNFlSuqs=; b=Pz3ZWmZzFCc8henaFjycjg++r3f3se/xMAUU9Kp7DIKWiM74tyINYk/wOb7pPtkjnz lwVqLgIjQWh3mb/WvDZFZarDWiUPoFxUHyuf7h7IpZ1twNlp2dcmq7BUBds36GwmiiCB CTNFwFh+47XT/m8ubFHZJeLOimVU9dACsjSOM242rGCExvfbWucsN0XrgGeCi0EoYdDb ZfpmOdJyHJWqruO8zNEn8Au+qz4Q13TtGhaBMYpOpUXuNixGVcevDvGWk3P82gL7Rt52 8w1igNzAuJSrgDgjNU/15VMcsuda+LIsA3bwb+JIP3/quQ7Elu5ms2HtzxoIlau7PSP+ sTOw== Received: by 10.236.85.196 with SMTP id u44mr2410453yhe.49.1352918316188; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.142.236.224] ([166.205.66.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z11sm12233149anj.13.2012.11.14.10.38.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:38:35 -0800 (PST) To: "=?utf-8?B?RnJhbmsgRmlzaGVy?=" ,"Triumphs" ,"=?utf-8?B?UGF1bCBhbmQgSG9wZSBCdXJyb3dz?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?Q3VydCBNY0Rvd2VsbA==?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?QnJhZCBLYWhsZXI=?=" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:38:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?=28no_subject=29?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Diamond in the rough :) Sent from my HTC Inspireb" 4G on AT&T ----- Reply message ----- From: "Frank Fisher" To: "Triumphs" , "Paul and Hope Burrows" , "Curt McDowell" Subject: [TR] (no subject) Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:15 pm Ran when parked !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 11:53:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEA12D07C0 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:53:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42FD2D04CA for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:52:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([216.138.90.252]) by p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id PWtr1k00K5SgtPc01WtsyR; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:53:52 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "Triumphs" References: <50a3e52b.0b2f650a.33f4.ffffefc6@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:50:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net the best part is the $500 deposit required. there's not $500 worth of parts on this thing. in fact, I'm not sure there's $500 worth of scrap metal. -----Original Message----- From: Brad Kahler Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:38 PM To: Frank Fisher ; Triumphs ; Paul and Hope Burrows ; Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Diamond in the rough :) Sent from my HTC Inspireb" 4G on AT&T ----- Reply message ----- From: "Frank Fisher" To: "Triumphs" , "Paul and Hope Burrows" , "Curt McDowell" Subject: [TR] (no subject) Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:15 pm ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:28:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331852D07AF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:28:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.ctinetworks.com (smtp2.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F632D0860 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:15:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.214.12.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.214.12]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp2.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E3CB91D2112; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:16:35 -0500 (EST) From: "davewillner" To: "Frank Fisher" , "Triumphs" , "Paul and Hope Burrows" , "Curt McDowell" References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:17:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bet it was the fluid that ran, not the engine... Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fisher" To: "Triumphs" ; "Paul and Hope Burrows" ; "Curt McDowell" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: [TR] (no subject) > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:40:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202C12D07F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0521D2D0643 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:19:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:20:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.169] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:20:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:20:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 75386 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2012 19:20:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352920834; bh=5k9V0tD4csTx9Q419NRZ0vl9aTLeYipF7uz4PgGDQ0I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kw7uAaOHxZTTy0DrpvSRIXK29kgG+h527mdxhXazUqRAhwBhSNTwa0mdifmSe6IHvOmANEbqyV/HN8hPRKgUxr5iiat8hVkbxRp2k9rkEONLb0L37w3l/71MS6+Qu4rM2mvr9BXefbeBnZwQQsGN5KlRrWJzY7QIk9U6qwlSorU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nxs6Xf75AgrrSWvEwGx1Qx8turiQyAIzTNKT7o1IlMmBvptqLPNK0BC1OkkyCHZoJbIBBmjfqfbvoOiF3+DoSb1uwArXDCZ9zXW877Zh9ZWKvwtH8c4/NyqXZCnwQ1Hb27gLHAGZVvGVMF1C+UPR+p4XnCaCbX8/1TER82GcEyY=; Mtz7a4Kae3ZZpL4okzkTFnS6kdcK4.AqTq5ASi44n50D8SM9iGOeXfANFNnA 3skcIq872A5K7noRsdv7dpzJtfrbUoFk5Vu_dPvinJY8hrSQOfNLmGFJLBkJ SqPHEPDngQgs_GrFWcgdcKkymncNSUlLhrEPlsBigRmlG3QeBpfkJ.kGco2z wLgUyOLzF.HDZYrzZgaEaOHbKLr._k307T.sV64g..ODvnUwdiCY.O7IDCcT 9.BuEOtxGDVJj4K3uscstUonI1GLTZZw6MNCk_lhdHU1vaIN544ymSh_gwNO WwymtI48xSlP1UE5q3oSuVHoa27MrxpDdFvBC5IzTLvsot59tKvZKF4CfLEg LvmORkR.W5Fz54.2E__Yln1wwnPlnRrRV.zfABZlEqAvLRD5zbwTNJHmF4E_ 35M1cMc5TpywDb3wv_vrg94KnzP7toOjYtfkMHRTUZD9Cu5MG46dDfBZjIXT KsHmc4i3q33sm7PrrZ1jfOLmd4tSTaBf2tP0XnGTGALbfoVkNEAMzs94PluR tCkBmqX2k8VBdSaYQfVbvoU8_4WWVtSvfbWrdp1em57q8tJDy048d.05RDTD q.SvzhD0jpEuVqXhWscobs7Rs7iogaewq04LZitsdAb81yGlmn27viVtShPU ogt8l3KNW60kvOOrrUWRss7Sx6xkqa8cJMxso.kmWBGWdxcZDm_LePwy_Y7X bgwA- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:20:34 PST Uk9GTE1BTwoKCkZyb206IGRhdmV3aWxsbmVyIDxkYXZld2lsbG5lckBwYS5uZXQ.ClRvOiBGcmFuayBGaXNoZXIgPHllbGxvd3RyM0B5YWhvby5jb20.OyBUcml1bXBocyA8dHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.OyBQYXVsIGFuZCBIb3BlIEJ1cnJvd3MgPHBhY2J1cnJvd3NAYW9sLmNvbT47IEN1cnQgTWNEb3dlbGwgPGN1cnRtY2Rvd2VsbEB5YWhvby5jb20.IApTZW50OiBXZWRuZXNkYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDE0LCAyMDEyIDExOjE3IEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbVFJdIChubyBzdWJqZWN0KQoKSSBiZXQBMAEBAQE- References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:20:34 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: davewillner , Triumphs , Paul and Hope Burrows , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ROFLMAO From: davewillner To: Frank Fisher ; Triumphs ; Paul and Hope Burrows ; Curt McDowell Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) I bet it was the fluid that ran, not the engine... Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fisher" To: "Triumphs" ; "Paul and Hope Burrows" ; "Curt McDowell" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: [TR] (no subject) > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:41:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693092D08B1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:41:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4E92D061D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:24:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PTf31k0090b6N64A2XRmit; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PXRk1k0074L5TyG8PXRlU6; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:25:46 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Frank Fisher Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:25:43 -0700 References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: Triumphs , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Amazingly enough this car would have won 1st place at VTR this year in the Participants Choice TR2/TR3 (smallmouth) category since there was not another car entered in that category. I know because I counted cars in the PC categories for Beverly Floyd so she count figure out how many awards to give in each category. So we're talking about a potential award winning car here. Think trailer queen. :) Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:43:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA43B2D08D3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:43:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877C12C0435 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:27:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PUex1k0060FhH24ABXUQTd; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:28:24 +0000 Received: from [10.237.120.60] ([174.229.193.196]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PXUC1k00q4Eibzi8UXUFuv; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:28:22 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIExhYnV6?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:28:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?=28no_subject=29?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The listing has been removed. Probably because of embarrassment! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob Labuz" To: Subject: [TR] (no subject) Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:38 And the ad says knock off hubs. I would bet they would have to be cut off with a torch. I have never seen such rust on a 3. I have seen rusted floors, sills, frame, trunk, fenders but what can account for the amount of body rust here? Was this 3 stored outside near the ocean? Bob On 11/14/2012 12:28 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Mercy! The photos of the Titanic showed less rust. > > Frank, you should really have a "Viewer Discretion Advised" on a post like > this. > > Geo > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > >> Ran when parked !! >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels-w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc559370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:53:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C39F2D03DA for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:53:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92F32C0A3D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D3C2E05B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:35:28 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:33:41 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Triumphs References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In spite of its flaws, I'm considering doubling, or even tripling the current bid. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:54:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3192D088D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:54:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE4A2D026E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:47:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.52.190] by nm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:48:27 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.225] by tm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:48:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:48:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352922507; bh=x7iBTB7FmaLKhgxuKaCUT+JLufnf37c8BsRQ7fm44E0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=0zJedTWAyotPWLeGBAmTdUY+w6JVRnfr9FNNq14KBmeyPUxuSgiZZMlULQuCjCDcR9giZTiBk3Ex3g5nsrOwSH5sOdhsmjwbI1r1SWpsJh8q3ftOraiYr8ng983mce/CK0VrOk86zZBpBBnITvS45wNj9l8vlWP8rDolq7TPDsQ= kKjWC4xJg7YhT2mGAc6vAAiNbOhBtPKFiefxuOoN2OJs15onNnXFWLvlo2wg JjYOFz26qMhLpP2mPSxjEe7EE1TjesTEftFIzrDnLvPgUvirRVi4tY51Tjn9 yLwuEwRr9arTlazQuuHV9nXpcTOCNNXW7l7UUtDJThG78J39KPOVym8Gcnx_ njlxxCKsFP1MvXyz0i2aff5Ctvae0OoScA3mW_eFKMtfRLD0.M5PnR.NKRlD vaCxcNiBd8N9Gp2gnK9zp_J4LacJFvexrEvs92v13FILcKytJZvy6H7dT4gP vcmlBvyk7MhanWmGDiDP9yhj0VEcdLUJS65tVChWP2mRyj9JER8ueF3pClrX By5i5v2Mj3kG7_BZqVHNocFKC7Id9R4I5m2Vadytd_UbLJ9MsszGr1CY7TQn I_O0pBspVbSecO.wj.DmKtPq2OAAiYIRjTSXi_3nn..EMs_6KF_fVTRdyq0. xzyo8Pkejeqcm98kDw5cLXEbmLTVoCiw2YrbQxe56slla.M0pnMc0WTKW99L sREA0XlwNGlKVEUCTUqPLg8SB_x9r8P67NdVrtKB_4vp9z3CNe5xiZZWeQ4v mWpbc.cZHmSiDhbPHhZFxtffIr0yrgZPqDbjQhAHoUTZxmrUU4KWsH.TZI7V 0sdRrUjClFoAvv.IR8y6QWgQ1wGSWBHbnADWop9IN84XYOawVUy..WKnlqLa xAV5E4f3bG5DyQY9ranRIvjTrp77cmtJ2peBO Received: from [10.55.30.120] (wbeech@166.137.122.227 with xymcookie) by smtp104-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2012 11:48:27 -0800 PST References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5C320A7B-BEFC-4776-B209-55D51316B892@comcast.net> From: WBEECH Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:48:25 -0600 To: Bud Rolofson Cc: Triumphs , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Trailer Queen? Think, rail yard bum. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 14, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: Amazingly enough this car would have won 1st place at VTR this year in the Participants Choice TR2/TR3 (smallmouth) category since there was not another car entered in that category. I know because I counted cars in the PC categories for Beverly Floyd so she count figure out how many awards to give in each category. So we're talking about a potential award winning car here. Think trailer queen. :) Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels -w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc55 9370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 12:55:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AF52D09C1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609BB2D03B0 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:53:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.52.193] by nm19.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from [98.136.87.49] by tm6.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 19:55:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352922911; bh=krsr4hj5YwX3lof+fZaV2QHrlEXeJp3WxXXSnHFgzHo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=Av56T1PN9b3S6hyNPflj2T518mNXEK278KCwRsC2TBCOUn3Bfvu0fYT08E/EZNdKJw9QUH5prGqzviddoIcYh6Sg0kq4hvE2lNG3y3dr+rxV+oJ93APkfBCGFnQuJIwAD8ljy28eoRGogVWOs8xwdk38wjHvihtVnn/utznm7Ao= LzvuIe3FFqb6vOLglbUswXiLLaAtxhKWeW3dMngUocLLeyUczQHF6TxI1.mh zH.eA5Ecqq11B8SYhAI5jiDtfXPOLSleE9NyBQf.GyJR7CBYKDSbGKmDiCk_ VgZq1zHkv7ic9O_Lax6P2666yau3kpDm3F4NYMAu04DDrtkrrFIg.M48RvV7 bvCaC0Bx82IW.M0eYE3.1i48Kv53OOLwPuaPaHol63OOxZGli5RYVszOd6A. cBaEet9dEFrgGHkxv4A98vxtA5e7FhYM0zOvJW2B8QeuGXSlXwc0Duzu6XgI XygoJc.DM7IIP6BvMZJ4zSwePWX6V31biVQGtqFHCLcyCmmWfQ6igNL1pVUj dTddW31iN4Ty8VPpeBH2xtA43qr.Vadq2.ywt_mPvw85nCz6OArxRcXfU1O1 cf7k6Vc3N7RTs.51N8rl1e43FGckahuvDyUQKWGDlsM_oqsCaBemnw1ygpPj J73wfEIOgmr_hRPxYDPOWnQY8aD3kx2trxnz4xEcTKqbNbSU3c2ICL6qXSEq UPiEUmC600AhzNzTsHM4vBFleE0_RojopsOngC.0vL646sVKD03Ar.POoF.C _kxy8oIDu5KgQPN0Kra1vATosgwtgcv3M0Vro9Yc7a5QqHG2lzh.1ZZz1QKb l5bxbWE2MhOVKhbL6pD_YFa4C3IAZslHZK9eOd5BhFvhzxCj_C4sKt0UiUhR 1PLMhpMLr0vAVHRkB9A-- Received: from [10.55.30.120] (wbeech@166.137.122.227 with xymcookie) by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2012 11:55:11 -0800 PST References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <94331560-5190-4F0B-8ACD-D4E2F761AAE1@comcast.net> <6513E585-53D3-4780-9663-6EC1094BC94E@comcast.net> From: WBEECH Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:55:09 -0600 To: Bud Rolofson Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Curt McDowell Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Car dollies not included. I wish this posting was up last month during Moss's "Spot a Rotter" contest, a sure winner. Along with the VTR PC award this could have been quite a trophy car. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: I missed the car dollies. They are at least worth something if they are included. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 14, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > Surprising that the $0.99 bid didn't meet the reserve. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Nov 14, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > >> Ran when parked !! >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels -w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc55 9370&vxp=mtr >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 13:08:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E272D07A5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:08:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D33E2D0643 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:08:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail7-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.235) by AM1EHSOBE009.bigfish.com (10.3.204.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:20 +0000 Received: from mail7-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail7-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9A2001A4 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:20 +0000 (UTC) H:BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: permerror (mail7-am1: error in processing during lookup of domain of redcross.org: Could not find a valid SPF record) client-ip=157.56.236.85; envelope-from=Michael.Mack@redcross.org; helo=BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail7-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail7-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1352923758848687_26294; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.254]) by mail7-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BD4E004B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (157.56.236.85) by AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (10.3.207.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:16 +0000 Received: from BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.19]) by BY2PRD0410HT003.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.83.38]) with mapi id 14.16.0233.002; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:15 +0000 From: "Mack, Michael (Rochester)" To: Triumphs Thread-Topic: [TR] (no subject) Thread-Index: AQHNwowDNDcB/Ig5ykuOycl2khZMKJfpwg/A Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:09:14 +0000 References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [162.6.97.24] Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'd call it a Survivor, but really... Mike Mack - TR8, TR7, Stag, Spit -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:16 PM To: Triumphs; Paul and Hope Burrows; Curt McDowell Subject: [TR] (no subject) Ran when parked !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels -w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc55 9370&vxp=mtr ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/michael.mack@redcross.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 13:54:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCC22D07DC for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:54:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F53D2D0531 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:46:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAEKldLK007848; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:47:39 -0500 Received: from [10.244.62.240] (230.sub-174-252-20.myvzw.com [174.252.20.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 77177E0000A4; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:47:38 -0500 (EST) References: <1352913345.12162.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6A6C6BB6A374144385E5E3CF3864B545243CA187@BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> From: Lawrence Schwartz Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:47:35 -0500 To: "Mack, Michael (Rochester)" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1352926059; bh=U4NQu5Lh9W5slxaq3PegoBltUIv7V4Xi3BNovGT/HrY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Wi3SGou8+Xp0F7z4aCqMVFb1KxWoKdt1785Vx4cruVNjHkSG/Pe9zsTNgV/uniU2f F+pW3lILcKpMaTymGpDlXJYZm8XJY3fhDlkXRC1yhV+N2l0XPDav1lhRXzE4PRZhtz LaBheTImN5TbJdqHui0VX94qLPX2wAXDKLdV0kcM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290650a40368249b Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guys, have a heart here. Larry Schwartz Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Mack, Michael (Rochester)" wrote: > I'd call it a Survivor, but really... > > Mike Mack - TR8, TR7, Stag, Spit > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Frank Fisher > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:16 PM > To: Triumphs; Paul and Hope Burrows; Curt McDowell > Subject: [TR] (no subject) > > Ran when parked !! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Triumph-TR3-convertible-small-mouth-spoke-wheels > -w-factory-knock-off-hubs-/261126198128?pt=Salvage_Parts_Cars&hash=item3ccc55 > 9370&vxp=mtr > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/michael.mack@redcross.org > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/l1j1s@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 16:46:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7502D07C6 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:46:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF4C2D0787 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:42:38 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lmOvmFQtWB8A:10 a=-9lkeS-D5MsMW12IHOYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55008] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 74/90-00785-BBC24A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:43:55 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'Bob Labuz'" , Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:44:07 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3CoJ204gb+U6yRQKacxowgL8qRbQAIULsg Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The listing has been removed. > Probably because of embarrassment! Still shows up for me. Try ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 16:47:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70842D083A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:47:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A6E2D06CA for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:44:30 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lmOvmFQtWB8A:10 a=YthTdoGOAAAA:20 a=oct0km-vpmisjADgxt8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=gp6eKXJMehcA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55012] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 46/A2-00785-C2D24A05; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:45:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:46:00 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3CoJ204gb+U6yRQKacxowgL8qRbQAIVy0g Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The listing has been removed. > Probably because of embarrassment! It still shows up for me. Try http://goo.gl/fF0Zx (Sorry for the incomplete post before) Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 14 17:02:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BCE2D07CD for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:02:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513F52D0504 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:58:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 23:59:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.5] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 23:59:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2012 23:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 92367 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2012 23:59:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1352937565; bh=6hN5fl4M8IKlPVO3cV3uimBIZ9xJKzxgGeVNbFerHsY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AG3OsRgSFoHZazJ6lf0LtrKGq2RBLCXmuU1VqgeoWiGwKDKe66z57Rhty51L+AyVbHQ1edGEsA3Kj0LCv+UdsATkz5H+7BQWS9/FOZIdlzUJYA5u2z0CCJ1xZ4THUGoGkgmcAT9aC1hpBu9JQEhMZgBSXC4WeNjEH8dY9wqD4eY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v0K8TkX++g7a7mSpDy+SmhPKn1U2FNF/6Bni12IlKsSm1d+0NZ3SpynLxzYTUApD1ozf09bZ/zdzvkdB1WXb1Q09npnYTb3usaMkFW4VRhtuf6WqIeH9uiBVQPb9xMJJGlnxcH+mUVl0QWYur4WPkVXdqu2bDLGSDKsLte6SISA=; ZfBD0S_S75C.R2QAySoE0fawjoVBiUOigrY9i8J_tGxeK5LMlgECSho3Pvis TsaVfbqmFJ4bDdXXZHIeHL7uDXUoPcBhhoPKxzppWtmMN_pQkA6aazT2vfrU hLFxtGqQya_PZBYjx3yFKUKtuZsBSprKAybxiWEcpNGsCAMlden7K7MU3Kh8 AhwuO6TZqZqdge0Vwdyeg1z2aJboMmH_VOx3fwHheSADjwD_QBKpNq0YRNby XZPryUy8Z4NQw18M.5LvWWhqm8D_briwTbKb.QAuNHudj2Fdj.U_K.XCy62K UGMVsj_Ql51mCEWxbMO2ktK94LuMGuq.MRCdmowCRXTkhUFmhH9sUwBbEGRc xIgbBoEGfnRW8PWafCD5OXTN6kwz7V2SjbZ6_flMw4c9vj1xxHzE_yJpqs3b 71PjsoffYm8hxWThaf_s8boJ7Q5NTSnRmxFu2Tw1hXKdKtbscxng7uy3YNie nJb9NShSmODgnqD9H9B_mRRQbNO.wwmR0dCNEYL9WZt8MrV_yhQ-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:59:25 PST c3RpbGwgc2hvd3MgdXAgZm9yIG1lIDIKYW5kIHNvbWUgb25lIHRoaW5rcyBpdHMgd29ydGggNjYuMDAKCkZyb206IFJhbmRhbGwgPFRSM2RyaXZlckBjYS5yci5jb20.ClRvOiBzcG9vazAxQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0OyB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxNCwgMjAxMiAzOjQ2IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbVFJdIChubyBzdWJqZWN0KQoKPiBUaGUgbGlzdGluZyBoYXMgYmVlbiByZW1vdmVkLgo.IFByb2JhYmx5IGJlY2F1c2Ugb2YgZW1iYXJyYXNzbWVudCEBMAEBAQE- References: <20121114194357.09AD62D0901@autox.team.net> <46.A2.00785.C2D24A05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:59:25 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net still shows up for me 2 and some one thinks its worth 66.00 From: Randall To: spook01@comcast.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [TR] (no subject) > The listing has been removed. > Probably because of embarrassment! It still shows up for me. Try http://goo.gl/fF0Zx (Sorry for the incomplete post before) Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 16:12:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B532D078D for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:12:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E72D0746 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([unknown] [96.240.187.109]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MDJ00CTAV7LOS40@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:16:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:18:07 -0500 From: "J.C. Hassall" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] need 2 TR4 door pull handle spire nuts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Folks, My '63 TR4 lacks 2 spire nuts which secure the door pull handles. Here's the wrinkle: the holes measure 0.25 square, not 3/8" (yes, they were made that way, not a DPO issue). Moss' spire nuts measure 3/8" and TRF no longer has a supplier. Anyone out there in Triumph land have a pair to spare? TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 16:27:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AA22D08A0 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:27:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB152D086F for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:26:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (69.0.52.168.adsl.snet.net [69.0.52.168]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lx9Jh-1TF4ow3BWb-016jPj; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:31:55 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "J.C. Hassall" , "Triumphs" References: <50A56A1F.5080507@blacksburg.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:32:07 -0500 44p/5HDsp0wlugYyubzlSzPinxw3d4gsPF8SaNSa/iHie4Sao3 VV2LaqR4tU7uhLVqgl/km/FoIl9YGxEnc3KbKFzXvETdx+Pi7+ du5yCSauKHB91waNaKtvgcWhUf3V7FcQAFHqbalczybdNq1g/e y8e197p7tDz3ggku8vCGfse//bVkduFJJLlNgvrzJksdo/BIes U4xU8hZuGfmX6O/C8jMaRy6nvaJ0AwNFn/AslasIo13LG2dsOj NitCndJyXC3qFAH6md75EfYtd0F45b6xMEbjlSldBSgLKl9QCQ Vuhtrh5P0YfJ/7nU/VtMx5EgiVKB0H5pLNzpWRA98 Subject: Re: [TR] need 2 TR4 door pull handle spire nuts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I made the interior panels for my TR6, I opted for the TR4 door pulls.......... much classier. The old TR6 center door pull used a plastic square nut (Moss#226-030) that fit perfectly into the holes in the door for the TR4 door pulls. About 1/2 way down this page (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/InteriorPanelInstall3.htm) you'll see what they look like and how they fit. Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: J.C. Hassall Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 5:18 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] need 2 TR4 door pull handle spire nuts Folks, My '63 TR4 lacks 2 spire nuts which secure the door pull handles. Here's the wrinkle: the holes measure 0.25 square, not 3/8" (yes, they were made that way, not a DPO issue). Moss' spire nuts measure 3/8" and TRF no longer has a supplier. Anyone out there in Triumph land have a pair to spare? TIA jim -- Jim Hassall Blacksburg VA '63 TR4 in autox preparation 99% finished, 90% to go ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 15 18:14:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926072D0938 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:14:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8816C2D0937 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:12:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2012 17:23:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2012 17:23:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2012 17:23:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 43409 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2012 17:23:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353000224; bh=GjPLkA1yexiYC1/yS9LwGicIvnjyiJS4yfF4UQ5Nfs8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OwBFkqMUa62CZ1RVWaqW414n0eRTw6t7YpBjp/bMwAkOWfBZmTuf1adfhYlXxryJCQl5TZfkFu4nhNFB91IlCKPdKXY5rrTtgoGrPWIjPJMALeM7Tib1W1sp0d3dgnNyDatA8crgx9ZnadKtfjFuTb56Di6Toc+7tFOCDi2xztY= s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AsWjcAKLWC5JDUcnNLTY7F++kwFqb2tMzmVkKngg/cXcGMKLgPy3Pe0ll6vmPeHzhheUa7q99wbVPOvlbg4dA8Y+NcOpAtxW70FczzRKltIpUq7nE/PEkhLB2wVDKeBhO4fXkxAmLWuUShEUzqqtLmZhleArml8spTCpURu5ZeE=; yqSz0SikMQC87.e2TFJQbvFcICjQDBD.ZDpf1nF9.6ssLfRS8..kC85zXq1J GHUcR983kRqkZk9W8XbtbAiKVKjSNxZqz4q.2aThcv.nWEBJ3Z2yLR5OZYWm Orft1d1IFtsQsWarzisuFBFKG5yBsYP1XIFDhK3CWrRu3AIL_8fK3ayS2k9x zJwGQfflfsNJ5tUIh72fcx1JRC4KEiYEEhQ6pGW_KudaHLO2tIPo5KVHsxUl qi0w.9eHj1MzX7Xohh6pZhUW5CAigP5gs0hzouuLMG_mS4U5x9dl6nKMdJnu smEjNZSrn92YVASHu.ITybYu.Q_XqUyEu2lI.BUd2Utam.uNfAgtaR9qpKxy .8cDyrPxpOu1L0b7qwAtfYJIVwNWrksrMTMuor.HYBy3EmPFQWG4hhDZzLDA mYrVojO.pNQCDrhVB8A3QjNy7iEj797VM3Bgq8TjnOq59LQ-- Received: from [67.217.112.45] by web141006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:23:44 PST VG9vayB0aGUgVFI2IHRoaXMgbW9ybmluZyB0byBhIG5ldyBwbGFjZSBmb3IgaXRzIGFubnVhbCBpbnNwZWN0aW9uIGJlY2F1c2Ugd2ludGVyIHN0b3JhZ2UgdGltZSBpcyB2ZXJ5IGNsb3NlIGF0IGhhbmQuwqAgSSBtaWdodCBzdGlsbMKgc3F1ZWV6ZSBpbiBhwqBkYXkgb3IgdHdvIG9mIGxhdGUgZmFsbCBkcml2aW5nIGxvY2FsbHksIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSdzIHNub3cgb25seSBhbiBob3VyIGF3YXkgaW4gdGhlIG1vdW50YWlucy7CoCAKwqAKU3BlbnQgaGFsZiB0aGUgdGltZcKgZXhwbGFpbmluZyB0byB0aGUgc2gBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:23:44 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Merone To: Triumph List , 6 Pack list <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: [TR] DMV inspection this morning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Took the TR6 this morning to a new place for its annual inspection because winter storage time is very close at hand. I might still squeeze in a day or two of late fall driving locally, but there's snow only an hour away in the mountains. Spent half the time explaining to the shop crew the car's history, how it's different ("no there's not a catalytic converter"), and that it can be quirky ("yes the directions do run that slow"). Felt quite old (carbs?) explaining it all. And although it passed with flying colors, there's still that uneasy feeling that something will get uncovered that you didn't know about. Only down side was that it looks like we only drove 2K miles this year. I felt bad, and I promised the car that we'd get out more next year. Joe Merone South Burlington, VT CF18928 5-speed ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 17:27:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B319439CE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout09-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A09CF4398C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:27:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 27550 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2012 00:28:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.24.56) by smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.14) with ESMTP; 21 Nov 2012 00:28:01 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:28:04 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3Hfu9oHd1U8gpcTA6li7Jnrry3BQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3 steering column and gearbox mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Question: does a one-piece steering column have any securing pieces between the large rubber grommet at the firewall and the steering box itself? Also, what is the purpose of the welded bolt which protrudes from the front of the gearbox mount crossmember? Really appreciate the help. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 18:41:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19A43991 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:41:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE09643975 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:41:26 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=v4jI_gJ1DhAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=A66KwAs7ubAA:10 a=Vc_LnZqe_uGu13jtZ3MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BF/E1-21565-C713CA05; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:42:20 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:42:29 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3Hfu9oHd1U8gpcTA6li7Jnrry3BQAClDZg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 steering column and gearbox mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Question: does a one-piece steering column have any securing pieces > between > the large rubber grommet at the firewall and the steering box itself? No. The later 2-piece columns have several, but the one piece doesn't. > what is the purpose of the welded bolt Sorry, no idea. Mine just has a hole there. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 21:40:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7095D43B2C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:40:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E31439B4 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 04:17:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 04:17:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 04:17:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 11791 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Nov 2012 04:17:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353471479; bh=pmo2CLelu31QyZvrr+iSCG5MZDYyhgXdfHGS/6y6GkU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1qe2JFr6Umy1AACOiDdL8zTueuLtiJptJA7SkakXHLGytbHg9i1pDrlXEvS8VKMF/dYGdluakv4BHjAvcC//7agdr0nb1NJ7rogZZ4Dz6NjLcW8jamXL2jVW8BsEDdBUKLgICEg1s8X8CllVkQoWzhH0QWqE7DSVwFF2g0X2NIo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WgFNAvtqaJRMYTRE8FbE5od7we9JRkTogUkmGBwXcDi3ExnIKtB3oPOGpSVf/rKZIAWTcVIT4qSl24anuw/bKOTPgcjbGYirXH+putSr7kxOWsXidd0veG7ildXBZ6QvvY2ffQE5cnKWhuJnjfiM9m8TyeNBz2Byemf8/BK0++8=; 57rx.9nlAdAixjecx9GXo Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:17:58 PST QW0gd29uZGVyaW5nIGlmIHRoZXJlIGlzIGEgc291cmNlIGZvciByZW5vdmF0aW5nIHRyLTMgd2lwZXIgbW90b3JzPwoKdGhhbmtzCgpnYXJ5IG4uATABAQEB Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:17:58 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Am wondering if there is a source for renovating tr-3 wiper motors? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 00:32:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD86439C4 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:32:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F556439A8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:55:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.3] helo=mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tb4E6-0000yX-0B for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:56:02 -0500 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tb4E5-0001V6-Su; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:56:01 -0500 Received: from webmail05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.5]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id S6w11k00q06ZD22016w1MB; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:56:01 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=jtRYz__7H3AA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_eVpw1n09q_1YInWunwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=VvFq4pgRw0hsDbru1LvkIw==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail05.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1Tb4Dn-0004CR-AM; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:55:43 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:55:43 -0500 References: <1353471478.11066.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:55:43 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, you don't say what the problem is, but most often, the wiper motor suffers from old dried and hardened grease. Unless the armature is burnt, a good cleaning with new grease solves a lot of issues. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Am wondering if there is a source for renovating tr-3 wiper motors? > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 12:45:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C0443997 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:45:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24640439E5 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:44:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm27.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 19:44:54 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.210] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 19:44:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp221.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2012 19:44:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353527094; bh=g+cFxQKICD55k5VrzSIE1u35CPcQEDU9OG5J9Ym4v7o=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=uAKVhccY2lqkYPtNjFZnFWjb5QVOUhAb7hC8RSi78mCjMWmiX/1fF2JboAflkRmg0bM11SsXl0tXW5aeOopCYH78/DsllVDZOPvBuPxlBLO7M2mmfboqJn2tgMnVT7ovN3vEL9lu6sXXd52+foS3DgzzUvi90whrEkPpMqRmnsQ= FuEeP1_cvRD1LDSWnPusJq0kXB6LAgHtm6I13XDPMjJDOJWXOqKS2l3ZTht5 UpN7npJAYhO0jtsmTOYHma6K3j8kxffy.z3oTh4o8WlpJmrYsYtZnK1C3VWL nJCjmZv07DNWJKx0xXDUlz071NG2RTfICP.0Be1A_VSnwtVJNTXVk_3CskOk ClbUoLe6C_5Q3WqlC.b8uPB82xtQoAZE7hqLnVsEl2JsXh1HOVxB2L5Gc2rp GsEjHc_66uXPmocdqkL89pXilM10Sj5JfoDB12EAp4POmGtrJzK8OTzhQcbf GxeeGsGbzt2KxDuDVPI6jreulbTDfHG_Ea3R1UiFf1DnZ5lbVJMGheCOs3KL eij7Rx_2T5kP1_ndWxGeaIL7whdjtpjzSJkX5yBu8CHE_75QtgyteIVUU1b5 B4v_b.8u8K3sb5GYmBbDlaYDt9ZHKUDk.CCuZbaUx3xN1Ir.HjXZlkmKL7lr nZIVKeFkDRr8K9IOEO_vp6lKv441DOY1_dlt71NjI4bLvE.dtuchGKm_NqwN XsWA0FkfZ Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp221.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2012 11:44:54 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <00b501cdc77f$133e33b0$39ba9b10$@uprichard.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:44:54 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3Hfu9oHd1U8gpcTA6li7Jnrry3BQAoWUlQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 steering column and gearbox mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net <<>>> Andrew, On a one-piece shaft the is no support between the firewall and the steering box. If it is the welded bolt like mine then it is for the safety brake to mount onto. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 13:15:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95B143999 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:15:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2077943982 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:11:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.197]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qALKCRao020712; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:12:27 -0500 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 455E4E003597; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:12:27 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:12:25 -0600 References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, naftzigerg@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353528747; bh=uqP2S54OEZDzbhMAbU4r0sHQX/sENo1x9n+hNBvE4vc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=WmPjrPWH88HfIpVaIbEEdXwPlMtqQmbK2FEIiAWngkoM/7H81592mbRUbKWgAnYDO fMykoTxxvAb8vlqEfX046AUw2pb3p7wxmZnXuUOY8uNzji/w/kH2Idtqm7w6ylRR+t BKaW7dwWTCkzFTC7RrPC/fTQTTmB7PN8PAyRcXwE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c550ad35a94fba Subject: Re: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Find a local auto electric shop that rebuilds starters and such. The one here locally does all sorts of rebuilds and armature rewinds, etc. Good Luck Sam On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > From: Gary Nafziger > To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" > Subject: [TR] wiper motor > > > Am wondering if there is a source for renovating tr-3 wiper motors? > > thanks > > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 15:16:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2BF43A21 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:16:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB12C439C8 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:10:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SLzL1k0090SCNGk5DNBQ0b; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:11:24 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SNBQ1k00S2ymm843VNBQnM; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:11:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:11:24 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: Re: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >Am wondering if there is a source for renovating tr-3 wiper motors? Gary, it's been ten years since I restored mine, but do recall it's not really that complicated. Like others commented, the grease was, well, very very old. Because the cogged wheel inside is plastic, I used silicone grease. Maybe the plastic is nylon or something, so maybe I didn't have to, but it seemed safer. List Engineers here could advise better on that one. I seem to think I was able to source brushes that fit from a local hardware store that had an eclectic mix of such things, but I may be mixing it up with the heater motor when I redid that. I was, though, fortunate enough to scarf up an NOS armature. Probably didn't need to since I only drive in the rain when the lying weasels that pass for WMUR weathermen leave me caught in a downpour. If you get this far into it, I had some problem with one of the tubes that houses the wiper cable assembly under the dash. I think I lost it. A piece of gas line matched for size and cut to length seemed to work. Have fun! Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 21 15:41:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15FA43B66 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:41:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACF043AE5 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:22:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SMpD1k0061swQuc58NPHXX; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:23:17 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SNPH1k0122ymm843bNPHCT; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:23:17 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:23:17 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] General topics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rebuilt the engine on the TR3A this spring. Four point five thousand miles and it, well, just feels like the engine is loosening up when I throttle down beyond 3500 rpms. (I've pretty much kept it between 2500 and 3300 til now.) Thing is, with less th an 3.5 miles on it, the car was overheating this summer in 80 plus degree weather, when driven at a consistent 3,000 RPM. Nothing major, just to the 200-210 degree mark where it pretty much hovered. Question: would this be the new tight engine? Note that I put in a brand new radiator from Roadster Factory last year. Timing is spot on. Valves are adjusted right. Note also that the car runs actually cold at about 165 in this Fall weather of 35 to 50 degrees. It has a 185 thermostat. Thank you all. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 09:52:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D9143A4B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:52:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA0543B5F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:51:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.129]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4B0C238000074; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id D6A58E0000B9; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:52:19 -0600 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353603142; bh=14tNTFNYL4fiXLw8ZDsifA5gw72LaRG62srbNdNqGds=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=a+ft8ZhjwY07zue4pRILhGNrU1zC+2XCqKZDnbeadYiK4MBa/v+grXjaQdfmLin+j YjELvMsLGP3AG/Kd6IFksV13ROCZb+4WB5bIzOWNqd1EPl9tuw59r73Z3ACWbGlRsz m9c4OGOR2ZZWKQ+UWSlzCcoqcnOEYd4um7BEPWQ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338150ae58440f1b Subject: [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 10:06:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C764395B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:06:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6488843826 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:03:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id s11so1208994qaa.14 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:04:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=j3lMXWcqeNnQLJvm0YCN/ujeE7nkCLg1vkQlBGeYYWo=; b=TkVWOZWo4UsJOJIIS6GbPfyNIwoQpS4uD0mkPVvf9o0itpuLxdtz/Tn+JMiKrO1+p6 MSKhd+y8PtOov4Y9EVdsE9+dovG37caL+WQHWxPX6QtS0lpx8X0b0pHJ1IPA2Q48sQJI bAe1bT12G8QbvrTlFB05ukO554nJAlo2VQRARq1sPSchn4JWKWj4dixrtC3vgRKzRQCh vyZU5URIEBjy+96O4lFy95LrofFWm9TgksfkWf1dUQgSt1GETSOm6PanKfcr3J/WZLTN 9gK4K/wSAKDlwDkMkNh4sCNsVMS/AaECzLRV0lBskGIfA/HNfcbhzy65PtMPqIJ/+lT0 tXeA== Received: by 10.229.38.38 with SMTP id z38mr264942qcd.88.1353603859248; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.75.99 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:04:18 -0800 (PST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:04:18 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Sam Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sam - I run MT90 in the OD box and 75W90NS in the non-OD box. Not sure there really is a consensus -- but certain to be lots of opinions. Geo On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to know what > the > consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in a TR6 > and > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 10:20:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFAD43AD3 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:20:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F30439B8 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:14:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8BF32380000A3; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 07F01E0000A7; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:15:33 -0600 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> To: Geo Hahn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353604536; bh=HcE4U+eVbJkiJdztiSBumxankW5PwWwssOJZXHd6IU0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xdmTqasxFGy4F65HJN1jLzyi253q8ODQIgGwfjNG/IctejUp6krDVAseT7IClWsEI Jpiu9pSmRiLLi0TyyjLmGi12KHKDWbwVkI7epkWfJykualUjeBcqjwhTDQ92/1hGdf zddx3D67DXGGPENZ6Or86eUKmW69iBBCkvGth+VE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338550ae5db610d0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Sam - > > I run MT90 in the OD box and 75W90NS in the non-OD box. > > Not sure there really is a consensus -- but certain to be lots of opinions. Thanks for the response. Somehow I ended up with a quart of MTL and was wondering what to do with it. I am currently using MT90. Are they compatible or should I just go see if the speed shop I bought it from will exchange it? Sam ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 10:35:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A2F439AE for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:35:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CCF43977 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:30:41 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BD3J7WX9zGkA:10 a=mey-NGG3W1Q4ybBbr_UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A4/41-01425-F616EA05; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:31:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Sam'" , Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:31:39 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3I0gZrAVV5K/F2SuevHJJ/N9hUqgAAk+iQ Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I am running an A-Type OD in a TR6 and > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? The OD works on oil pressure, and using thinner oil will reduce the pressure under some circumstances. Might not be an issue, depending on how well your unit holds pressure, but why take the chance? Both Redline and Triumph (BL) recommend 90 weight. The TR6 box also has a known weakness in the thrust washers, and the heavier oil may help protect them. Anyway, I use MT-90 in all my street Triumphs and I'm very happy with it. But the difference is not large (roughly the same as 30 weight motor oil to 40 weight) so it may actually make no difference at all. If I were going racing, I'd probably try the MTL (for very slightly less parasitic loss). YMMV -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 12:52:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6243BB7 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:52:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0828143AE2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:02:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hj6so794782wib.2 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:02:58 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DjLxG5LpSKPtoiy0aSWAr8yn3OJf3vWXjK0QbcWBuaM=; b=RYGZAUToDcTQNKVcJ906oEMKhG9LX74k7zZhjkn2fbLxiUHB8Aigoa1WkGxjx86sza aWjoqPUwmqoocW2L8OB23MDN0AJJ+V7kq0BM6938E0TtuTGOaiNnBEoG3pZPtWCzDFP2 OlOgWgHajfADgR9Ffds+TJjB94/Yjk1m7fTA888B1/T1UaQSMo7zdjVZXO894RSm/ml3 drP9Egqk+kGu0krt6jZt1A28o3pexdkhynwsZOsd1WRCTULefaxpj4a0UDGjsQN/GKoD 8X+z3cvgpMiFzd3TtR7JhROnAhcI/EiQ/n3PBzFGjrXd0YVdDUwOGgFtC/5yCp18N8rQ xZMg== Received: by 10.216.52.74 with SMTP id d52mr737990wec.73.1353610977840; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.55.144 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.55.144 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:02:57 -0800 (PST) References: <1353471478.11066.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1118902844.440000.1353535884806.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:02:57 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I took the tr2 wiper box apart and it was locked solid with hardened grease. Cleaning and synthetic grease- works great! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 14:27:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08B243C1E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:27:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B7540ED6 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:53:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4943338000042 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-med003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.9]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 22685E000086 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Full-name: Loumetelko Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:54:12 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353617652; bh=AUJJf7A2dR7b8RiXvOHrLb0NkyeicrHg/F/0nbxw08o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sKyPasco7DQc7qR7m/c+D1gqlfljUuVdo0jYtidaUJNU2W1lT8YX46XkV9yflxBYJ 5Pt1f42XFPVVfogFXfDZC9hAvdrMTe/+c7SHf1x9H6ZM+B1JJYWAhh/23RijQBEHfy hlUb/ZB77FmxM2d4pz2ALhu5FVemWeZFVrPc65Fw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850ae90f42ecc Subject: Re: [TR] wiper motor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I took the tr2 wiper box apart and it was locked solid with hardened grease. Cleaning and synthetic grease- works great! Chris: Like I, you probably have the stock 2 speed version (slow and stop)! The wiper blades are just for ornaments since I use Rain-X for the unplanned times we are caught out. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 15:38:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F7D435C0 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:38:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B634399B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:24:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D503A1C000164; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.205]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9A208E000088; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> To: trdoctor@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, 6-pack@autox.team.net, fot@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-d097.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.8) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:25:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:25:35 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353623135; bh=2XdB9Fhv6hy3HOrF8/GrtF7IC/NkBKUMkKubMIj7Z9c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xzwlpJLMOxFxZ2bDTmdt2WBQbAYyMbxIy7Smg9sYrfhj9eH2StipISE4KZA1gO2v8 bi7l4B4dkjD9ZrEYx/5bWaTAzbW5LIaGZusoB/a2p0lQYNrh8/Cw+3FI8lqvQ8Jqlz Y6s8KUXWnnoDiQJERhKpvP7Zr5pk6ZA4eUq4BIS4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50aea65f1c17 Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've been running MTL in my J-type TR6 for many years with no issues. The only time the OD stops engaging ws when the level gets low. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Sam I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to know what the consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in a TR6 and regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 20:06:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2DC43BFC for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:06:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB98B43B82 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:53:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so15846956ied.14 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sRTD1X2n3hiSu7C6NYN+kcCCBLDredpWxeQSaA3Etas=; b=aVEAjeYZVreSj7UTW+JNGWuprLNtwdHR9suOTTooVvWm/S3sOzohoW1UdNM/JlQX1+ XlDKyrw6EVGg62JQAdlQSg/9AiZxrN5PWSv/tyfOzKC7nz+YJqxq9kp65gyviXlPdcP3 3/Q3kFCbylBjz94S/ztez0s4eBZgUDIibs2fnuHYD9e7OcxrnYzGfZehsKbWy5OCM/K6 0726dX0DTyH7UR8W4nDH9Sro/gcCTKUceU1n0EYhY7qJAkPWZXjSYrjBkXaDCLWyZKLo I77/NY04z5jExZdSjnmu83MtEzxM9SYplddBGSRP0wOTcck3fYaArWL2e6uuhODTFH/R qPAg== Received: by 10.42.54.211 with SMTP id s19mr2015730icg.34.1353639283557; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.43.201 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:54:43 -0500 From: Benjamin Zwissler To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 456 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, not sure I'd attribute it to a "tight" engine after a rebuild. You're saying its staying at 200-210 in 80+ weather regardless of operating condition? Idling in traffic, cruising at freeway speed, >90F ambient? You won't blow the cap until you exceed 215F (212 plus about 1F for each pound of cap pressure) - so that's pretty warm, but not really overheating yet. It didn't do this before the rebuild? Did you ever blow the cap? How are you determining the temperature? Using the dash gauge? If so, have you verified it with another measuring device? An infrared thermometer on the t-stat housing is easy. With an all stock system with a few thousand miles since a rebuild I rarely get above 1/2 on the gauge on my TR4A and that seems to be below 200 when checked with an infrared thermometer a the t-stat housing. In my experience a "normal" system will be coolest when moving and warm up most when idling in traffic. >90F ambients will challenge a stock system with extended idling. If you have insufficient cooling capacity (blockage in rad or block, eroded pump vanes, etc.) it'll heat up when you're at speed, too. If you've got a new radiator, a new water pump, and the clean block water passages that you should have after a rebuild and you're showing high temps under all conditions but not getting the cap blowing off, I'd suspect your system is normal and the gauge is wrong. Only other cause could be a faulty t-stat. According to the Stant website a tstat will start to open at the rated temperature +/- 2 degrees and be fully open at 15-20 above that. So, fully open for a 185 stat is 200-205F, so again that says temps in the range your saying may be normal given some error on the gauge. Once the stat is fully open your temp is out of "control" and will vary with engine load and air flow. Ben..... On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:23:17 +0000 (UTC) > From: terryrs@comcast.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] General topics > Message-ID: > < > 1865680048.440318.1353536597693.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Rebuilt the engine on the TR3A this spring. Four point five thousand > miles and it, well, just feels like the engine is loosening up when I > throttle down beyond 3500 rpms. (I've pretty much kept it between 2500 and > 3300 til now.) > > Thing is, with less th an 3.5 miles on it, the car was overheating this > summer in 80 plus degree weather, when driven at a consistent 3,000 RPM. > Nothing major, just to the 200-210 degree mark where it pretty much > hovered. > > Question: would this be the new tight engine? Note that I put in a brand > new radiator from Roadster Factory last year. Timing is spot on. Valves > are adjusted right. Note also that the car runs actually cold at about 165 > in this Fall weather of 35 to 50 degrees. It has a 185 thermostat. > > Thank you all. > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 21:07:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC63A43B35 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:07:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D0A43805 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 20:43:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTP id <0MDX009FO9217F80@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:44:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:44:26 -0500 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac3JLNWU/Cv0XURwQBeh0P93FDv7Pg== Subject: [TR] Completely off topic - Volvo P1800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry for the off topic post but I couldn't find a Volvo list on team.net. I'm going for a 2nd look at a 1967 Volvo P1800S tomorrow and hoped that somebody could tell me what the trouble spots are to look for. It was restored in 1997 (with over 300,000 miles on it) by the original owner but has been driven relatively little since (he died in 2000). It's been sitting inside in a garage since. Battery and carbs are missing so obviously the engine does not run. Was told it "ran when parked" (famous last words?). Car looks very straight, floors and trunk are clean as a whistle, chrome is good. What else should I be looking for? Any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 22 21:38:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD5843AAC for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:38:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337754381F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 21:23:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 04:24:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.2] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 04:24:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 04:24:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353644663; bh=B7J9lA+75ZkcbIi0fTK1W3JSESmw/SKETDnTL5BGtAo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=2q71BcXSqOrqIL4yQHW+CqFJHycyTgqGFnE9ZFJZTGCNL8crFyGs98StjOcfgLpF4yC92S6b4gHV0bX7cAlmJPhvMI7B+EYdQmNFPxhhnUbo85/+BE3DYmYIL9WEx9eo/yZ79Zd6McXAEy24MCRh02pkY5EqBcEUt9o6zPIZ9ik= WkoDgP3QjDBWLRuD5T.rAIUTcYk4t1qNMy0vnz9WFRR5759RUurIX2P3M0Ik sUa6prhAuCV3B8uft1WBfq9pyr.tG9JlarjCY6de_ty_rUQ7MFGQI9ZVPcSr b7vbhvFDJ7.Sxx_6pb_PCkfQrxfCKlwQaxukQtuSk5We5K74WCBOV6zzMZuW QA6D18stcQz3qaJTHisnbxhPApSAy1VnlE_gdIsk4gNm7PUk5tyEYToov55O L4WLgsodokR7MBWkROHvfhVJ6sOuVJvMU_VSjuUJfjtk2UHiCIFFW2ityecX uSAboYnMGUF2hUqeybDlSrDWFqQ9jbGpM5t3sYcaidzeZV.C1GDjtqONnTtW yqGcxDXXQqSfYUDnDQPNzIl4mdtoyFH5Boitcnbt4Xn.e8RbbZyQnyfMJjXd m9gPQ_kKFzKmELBy89v3XQ642dXL0NRBirBxoXRsishPAPrmG8z8.cgAZeZk jsoA5Ge5XFdngFkC0STs- Received: from [192.168.1.103] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2012 20:24:23 -0800 PST References: <000001cdc92c$d5e8f310$81bad930$@net> From: "Bbeecher@flash.net" Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:24:22 -0600 To: Dennis Culligan Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Completely off topic - Volvo P1800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rust, as usual, look in all the fender wells as well as the door sills. The one I had was rusty around the unibody supports out the the sills so look underneath. Engine/trans, 1800 if i remember correctly, is a good solid unit should be checked on every normal way. Compression & oil leaks just like the Britmobile. Fun car, wish I had mine back. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: Sorry for the off topic post but I couldn't find a Volvo list on team.net. I'm going for a 2nd look at a 1967 Volvo P1800S tomorrow and hoped that somebody could tell me what the trouble spots are to look for. It was restored in 1997 (with over 300,000 miles on it) by the original owner but has been driven relatively little since (he died in 2000). It's been sitting inside in a garage since. Battery and carbs are missing so obviously the engine does not run. Was told it "ran when parked" (famous last words?). Car looks very straight, floors and trunk are clean as a whistle, chrome is good. What else should I be looking for? Any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 23 00:10:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9707143A78 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:10:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C994399A for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:41:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 06:42:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.8] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 06:42:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Nov 2012 06:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 71720 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2012 06:42:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353652952; bh=O9UOP/kU7+4iT5HQCzpCudi4YALiXhb5oQ9zv5AEp5w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g3bMXdx/PKM7uAFPNzLHa/3deweYpPUjLk7Yd1l7ebUD6TrfBrMsjBMbGeuCJNpacjcOm+VYrfsRKSNVLMVv953ZMvWA5xgp53mQs/qECqLyQbKhbWJUKHIdnj4k8rvCG45hf81IbJdjhXg7d4nuV70+JUFeV57GDNIFpDR58l4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fZyazHCAj3DWP5e1PIRoe2KywryCZg9TLF0PmfAlx9hMvY3bPzJ+sx0y3V8JuVyxheHCaixOARx8eMBR4Veaezyk2fvzHYhBHcxIkOXcA+lmJj0AA1tmI42gChWVlgya3Ws9VWThZsdpOrhDn2DUO1UJBdzBmvotLHJJ8MV+lEI=; _iqPxY9w7lcAWlos7jgPqohrFUmHuBnnnlIRaGI.j62GtGgvA83O3ayu6dBJ EEgP.Fax_PHUwxZUunIfzFSRI5BpfDs8HyTdWyUZn25rScEr89s26mbl8OsU WNFADSDvdKoJALx48sMbPrJcULqbGKWcERzlCufLXAaoVWSxYWlrzoZpWp7t jgg5e2DwntJ4dW1bu.ctM.r3cRfCikexOpDQ6guHRg1EhBAS38m8cWhaQ29B W7dcqvDUTyQ0_ah0yq_tq1lef0ey2lBIOiJeUbSTHvqq_JtL94oXyMAeNuVx fzwyMqLWIwunUsRPzEoHR5id9DK4TGadi0zpcbhCo3VMcl5i0lmy8lhaI1dD GRon8dQnvvme3tYFIRnBYT08auveebcpBfEP6Vj81OoN7Ayo.q5PC9Zj2yvB Jl80hB9TMWKm2BvrmCqRSccyWyXfuqWTJQ7TAiI4tvGFGzBy3pZLjHdKlLqq _o7whVoYb69KnyD5swvrN_e3UHPzeFb3uB192PqD3OIaI7r8wqhmkwkWS.C3 kjVuAWZU- Received: from [98.184.156.213] by web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:42:32 PST TG9vayBmb3IgQU5ZIHNpZ24gb2YgcnVzdC9yZXBhaXIvY29ycm9zaW9uIG9uIHRoZSByb2NrZXJzLi4uLmVzcGVjaWFsbHkgbmVhciB0aGUgYmFzZSBvZiB0aGXCoCJBIiBwb3N0LsKgIFRoZXNlIGNhcnMgaGF2ZSBhIGxvdCBvZiAibGFtaW5hdGVkIiBtZXRhbCBhcmVhcyB0aGF0IGFyZSBhIGIqaXRjaCB0byByZXBhaXIgcHJvcGVybHkgaWYgdGhlIHRpbiB3b3JtIGhhcyB0YWtlbiBob2xkLgrCoApDaGFkIGluIFR1bHNhCiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBEZW5uaXMBMAEBAQE- References: <000001cdc92c$d5e8f310$81bad930$@net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:42:32 -0800 (PST) From: Chad To: Dennis Culligan , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Completely off topic - Volvo P1800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Look for ANY sign of rust/repair/corrosion on the rockers....especially near the base of the "A" post. These cars have a lot of "laminated" metal areas that are a b*itch to repair properly if the tin worm has taken hold. Chad in Tulsa ________________________________ From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: [TR] Completely off topic - Volvo P1800 Sorry for the off topic post but I couldn't find a Volvo list on team.net. I'm going for a 2nd look at a 1967 Volvo P1800S tomorrow and hoped that somebody could tell me what the trouble spots are to look for. It was restored in 1997 (with over 300,000 miles on it) by the original owner but has been driven relatively little since (he died in 2000). It's been sitting inside in a garage since. Battery and carbs are missing so obviously the engine does not run. Was told it "ran when parked" (famous last words?). Car looks very straight, floors and trunk are clean as a whistle, chrome is good. What else should I be looking for? Any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 23 20:12:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C775437D3 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:12:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A1540EDD for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:10:15 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=v4jI_gJ1DhAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=A66KwAs7ubAA:10 a=f2MAtMjoAAAA:20 a=S-NI-w2lCCKl12gsVVoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NU4pcTfrvgMA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 39/D9-00785-FBA30B05; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:10:55 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 19:10:56 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3Hfu9oHd1U8gpcTA6li7Jnrry3BQAClDZgAJm+POA= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 steering column and gearbox mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My apologies, Andrew. I had totally forgotten about the bracket that fastens the column to the front side of the shock tower. It's pretty much impossible to see until you get the apron off, but when I started to pull the column today, there it was. http://goo.gl/3OqB0 -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 10:46:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495A5437FE for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:46:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1774D437EF for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:45:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from 188-254.speede.golden.net ([216.75.188.254] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TcJnh-0005mt-4Y for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:45:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:45:54 -0500 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 steering column and gearbox mount Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Randall &List: Just wondering about the steering column mount that Randall identified in his photo. Was it an addition a bit later in the production run? I have a very original (and I think unmolested) TR2 and this mount is nowhere to be seen. Looks like it might be a bolt on addition added at a later date? Wondering as well, how important it might be to stiffen up the column and prevent some of the inevitable flex in the column? Thanks for any insights. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 19:03:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2068143804 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:03:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9130437EF for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:03:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 25 Nov 2012 02:03:57 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.3] (184-12-225-198.dr01.brny.ca.frontiernet.net [184.12.225.198]) by relay03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 716BC23AFA for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:03:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Tim Purdy Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:03:55 -0800 To: TR List Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 TR4 back together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to the body, bonnet, fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding to the radiator. Anyhow, the other day, I was asked a most refreshing question, instead of the status its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a clue. I will add a second question, though I could probably research it, yet I bet that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? Tim Purdy Susanville, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 24 20:03:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4BA43828 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:03:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0597043806 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:02:50 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bqFNajgOMbdC/98rEUID1+MRLeZYo53xXZt+HQBVO2X5Bv3fW5vMohIQnVF0N1bE; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [97.123.21.180] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TcSVB-0004kH-Dk; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:03:25 -0500 From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "Tim Purdy" , "TR List" References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:03:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry for your troubles, Tim. 40304 if the production line didn't skip numbers. http://www.vtr.org/TR4/TR4-production.shtml Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Tim Purdy Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:03 PM To: TR List Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 TR4 back together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to the body, bonnet, fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding to the radiator. Anyhow, the other day, I was asked a most refreshing question, instead of the status its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a clue. I will add a second question, though I could probably research it, yet I bet that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? Tim Purdy Susanville, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 00:37:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3E943833 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:37:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C334381C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:32:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.252] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 50626 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353828769; bh=h0lFXkLHMunAbw0uoLLIZaV6Meep4+EYGRj6NjrXmFY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4vmOpwG0mH/Jwdw080b6gVkTqTGxegWh4nmz8EJrVO0uqaAr9O5yDaw7bPeUhSXneXhtu3x8tQ2WWsSGWokqUwR6YBzTP+d8fnY1M3vjBiSzFcUxAevY736xOZvq9G8/zeQQN4aqrsAIGXys3xNHfcHc0F9CUexqmwebbCTi1I4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yI86cQjoGqrwUYrISZoqKn4iVgb71ctIZoy4bPUlV2UKU8PdHGw9600mULrAXNAt7fCWXScnUGwAxjmBt+LCMb0wIHYj8xQUbyGLTHuob/a6XL6CMaOOumlGAQySr0CRESp2C1Z1sulEYe3nec5FliRhfzjAUvqcIfKPbsOz3PU=; FnOlz6.yXaiNYYIoP7lo0zSqiC19IV9rygpOmIlqZge8V3i0RZ9Hl2xwrrP9 BdhRwN51x7Aa_lzE3VYU0Dt_5nMjE9lz7TXwsESYpErF10NV.R97DHj4fIUv mH_UbUN3ciCZgzfhDYJjKKVzZ0Q3BfLHzxamvckeIZbi_KotzIytibQd6pjh MatkOWs97mWj9ibkx5YLePeiilDiiRaCkD2HBgbCRCsLcLmTDn7wzXDQ2_mw qxUGwFpVkS2KG51nSexN81iq8eP4uzAJS8RWoCsWU1gT.067mv4JoqEGOeKN nzja9SW01OMXAunxCukvj77UxSBY.HSqjsKE36v1pijObkeU5W4WrxgSDmja E3cGozVTeYowTUI8Q_zHBiI.yeAF6Vw5faDclw1WwYM7g_XqmC4Jk153oTVX Ap4uE5BEZTtbUqjOKqWJkiiYLJlwm3cEXv1sGz7b4wUgTicFqTrtmEHEZWxc uUkaDRS5rpJ0DDwveUXslxLclXv1Xi1x1WxDSjTUWuhXZekMBTnu681dAsOp FLzVqun9I_TPtmsQlvTBaHPFTt5L9eE6kbmuOyALMzBPuGJsiHVEfNNKn6LS 9S_CbXr3oqlf958_LYNIX7jFc.IBz Received: from [90.196.181.29] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 GMT NDAzMDQgc291bmRzIGhpZ2hseSBsaWtlbHkuIE15IG93biBmaWd1cmVzIGN1bGxlZCBzb21lIHllYXJzIGFnbyBmcm9tIEJNSUhUIHNob3dzIDY4NzEzIHRvIGluY2x1ZGUgVFI0QSBpbiB3aGF0IHdlIHVzZWQgdG8gY2FsbCAiZnVsbHkgYnVpbHQgdXAiIGNvbmRpdGlvbi4gSW4gb3RoZXIgd29yZHMsIHRoZSBjYXJzIHdlcmUgYnVpbHQgaW4gdGhlaXIgZW50aXJpdHkuIEhvd2V2ZXIsIHRoZXNlIGZpZ3VyZXMgYXJlIGJ5IG5vIG1lYW5zIGZpbmFsIGFuZCB3aGlsZSBwcm9iYWJseSByZXByZXNlbnRpbmcgdGgBMAEBAQE- References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 07:32:49 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Cliff Hansen , Tim Purdy , TR List Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 40304 sounds highly likely. My own figures culled some years ago from BMIHT shows 68713 to include TR4A in what we used to call "fully built up" condition. In other words, the cars were built in their entirity. However, these figures are by no means final and while probably representing the bulk of finished cars out of Coventry, they *exclude* the kits built in Belgium for all EU markets, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. Coventry did not keep commission number info, with a 1 to 12 prefix and regarded as 12 separately numbered ranges on overseas built units. All that info mostly vanished when the various assembly plants were closed. The only place where I know that information is still likely to be available in an archive is in London and one has to be a motor manufacturer to access it - even for simple historical research. Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: Cliff Hansen >To: Tim Purdy ; TR List >Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012, 3:03 >Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > >Sorry for your troubles, Tim. > >40304 if the production line didn't skip numbers. > >http://www.vtr.org/TR4/TR4-production.shtml > >Cliff > > >-----Original Message----- From: Tim Purdy >Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:03 PM >To: TR List >Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > >I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 TR4 back >together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to the body, bonnet, >fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding to the radiator. Anyhow, >the other day, I was asked a most refreshing question, instead of the status >its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. > >The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a clue. I >will add a second question, though I could probably research it, yet I bet >that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? > >Tim Purdy >Susanville, CA > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 08:46:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12E94384B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:46:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EEC4383B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:43:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tpd51k00317dt5G53rk3AK; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:44:03 +0000 Received: from sz0151.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Trk31k00C2ymm843Zrk3qp; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:44:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:44:03 +0000 (UTC) From: suhringtr36@comcast.net To: Triumph Mail List Subject: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am going to be doing some adjustments on my 59 TR3A over the winter. One task on the list is the alignment of my steering wheel. When I am driving straight, my steering wheel is off center to the left by a good 20 degrees. I have a split shaft column. Is this corrected as simply as undoing the clamp on the split column and rotating the upper column in tack to align the wheel and then reclamping the split, or is there more to the process? Do I need to disengage the stator tube first? Thanks. Scott Suhring Mechanicsburg, PA '70 TR6 '59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 09:02:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440C94385F for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300064383B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 08:52:54 -0700 (MST) a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=dg3hAEBnQ7UA:10 a=jF9rCvEofmwA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=aR3G-wOw6HkA:10 a=67_AUIPvaX0rFw5lm4EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:57691] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EE/9C-00785-6FE32B05; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:53:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:53:29 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: Tim Purdy References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, I would speculate that maybe 10% to 20% of the original production. The 4 did not do well up here in the northeast with all the salt/sand used during winter. On top of that, accidents took quite a few I would guess. I have had my 63 on the road 4 seasons now since restoration and I have only seen 1 in all the shows/car hops I attend. I see a few 3s, many 6s, Spitfires, and even a GT6 or 2 but the 4s and even the 4As are few and far between. I was at Watkins Glen a few years back in the 3 during the Fall vintage races. Triumph was the featured mark and the only 4 I could remember seeing was Matt's, from Triumph Rescue, red 4 under the tent. There were many other Triumphs but not the 4. Same in the parking areas. The 6 was the most popular followed by the 3. Good luck on your repairs. Bob On 11/24/2012 09:03 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 TR4 back > together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to the body, bonnet, > fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding to the radiator. Anyhow, > the other day, I was asked a most refreshing question, instead of the status > its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. > > The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a clue. I > will add a second question, though I could probably research it, yet I bet > that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? > > Tim Purdy > Susanville, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 09:32:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735DF43862 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:32:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448844383B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:28:47 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=jF9rCvEofmwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=aR3G-wOw6HkA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=NUAHHQ-5wK1SHLGywTAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:64836] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 19/8C-01260-F5742B05; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:29:19 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Bob Labuz" , "Tim Purdy" References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> <50B23EF9.8010706@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:29:22 -0600 Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Bob, there was a time when people were restoring TR3s, TR6s were often 2nd cars and they led sheltered lives, but many survived in good shape for many years (I know many didn't but still I think a higher percentage the the 4, and 4a). In the late 80s and early nineties when I went to shows the TR3s and TR6s outnumbered the TR5s by 4 or 5 to 1 or more. People have certainly started to save and restore the TR4s at a higher rate, but I still don't think as manysurvived the bottom of the depreciation curve used car years as the earlier or later cars. Nothing scientific, just my observations over the years going to shows in the midwest and being an off again on again Michelotti TR owner. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 09:52:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3820A43841 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:52:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B779743813 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:52:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.5] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:52:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:52:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353862375; bh=+ZjSNgiQwhXkxE+lkbDQvPCIvDP5MOT7yfNGPQLIeOQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=4X2OYST+ExgFgj/9P29L1TeteSuiQy4f4CCi/9FNSO77IgPcwdWzgAKzD3XnD7aoB/yg6tEVRJqSONFeph90Up6QwZoUKkOvnTYhj2osBoe6nub28S5wiNH5ni9EReZoOUAEAxE9l4Lq0vpgNOJafLL2BMnObrZT81BGAcxDOiE= 2mT7BJYwk7gY37scGZid9t4.63IK5N5pSJFxXbedoP.JtxUQg5FzgK6Xqtlb hRdiSnq0vsqoCgJhWxLFqNwua1C09ldE3gjuBgQ5pIDlAx1gIikiWWsZZnxU ojTO1QOE11cxZvsMKr_xVIeDAS9dDXGrUBDvaWLE_Ko8.E6iJdl1GHjENFBz ERDAUI0A_xDyxGAPZmxgex2oRix2v7vFQSVQ3jSlBQ1Nnjqs.j4z4pBqlSUf 9sgBIigSyxI0Iky3e88XW15STpw.OOa6A7C2Rd8AiDm.Z_e26lIoFFhOkdYK A_ibSGOiu2wq9uBQiO2xRIcjFRkDuKiAJs3ASw7s9hH.IyNZrtToUgS2hJ1w .0gyAtjhqMxoXDZLABcT1YVo5dLcl4p61vqQRRB.86ZFgcbuq4L.SAmVVHV_ IXLD2UEdOiUa_NE3AlUbM7MQZ8IixuYb22arXhH2QNZoHS4kNbIwfGim.COt BjnKwLkOcDRiFgYOmox9RElg- Received: from [10.152.202.22] (wbeech@166.137.149.99 with plain) by smtp105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2012 08:52:55 -0800 PST References: <943618231.541364.1353858243148.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: "Bbeecher@flash.net" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:52:43 -0600 To: "suhringtr36@comcast.net" Cc: Triumph Mail List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 25, 2012, at 9:44 AM, suhringtr36@comcast.net wrote: I am going to be doing some adjustments on my 59 TR3A over the winter. One task on the list is the alignment of my steering wheel. When I am driving straight, my steering wheel is off center to the left by a good 20 degrees. I have a split shaft column. Is this corrected as simply as undoing the clamp on the split column and rotating the upper column in tack to align the wheel and then reclamping the split, or is there more to the process? Do I need to disengage the stator tube first? Thanks. Scott Suhring Mechanicsburg, PA '70 TR6 '59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 10:03:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DF443857 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:03:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE4740ED4 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:59:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:59:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.126] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:59:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 16:59:44 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353862784; bh=Uctm4P8/EwhUjChvWhssaNpmC7tSKSTEEoXfRJWcmnc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=IBAUCFm+JUvsWq+m4oTrYRyrtb6sRAy51LuV4UiYH/rl2xfqaIA6G3JGhN2nhU4J92PQaBtawiAAz8niMbdSKOdicM7KWtjvHw1cd7d/zflCWX2wWVw6S2K6WRN1Wd9TA0HP3DLKia/z+iRgmKU1u7cF6JjxCsl6lqQIpLFOBY0= P1Y6th78WCnUYhbrg42bbmY6p4nRh.4j3I1a8XACb8IqbMeO7hFshfsMkzH. yLhfOagMWAqN1zAJiZtQZiwi4YgFQ3gUFOrV1oYnKiByL85MpR6namCX_QLh Bl2F6EJKzD_E0GEn7UPdH1KaJZHCzi6JB4SbFET1NUI8ZwxfqYZZpwKfOJ4E SK_oaIW_AnCZam1KCiDnpt65V_0d6R8vVns9UZW8fmwjulLLhFkqurEss9B9 TVa3pvyRL00rBX73DV43NKipXlHlsLT0j6dobOhqOWCpUyRGbsKs26uPZH1a 1D6R2ZhdfbXuyOKeF4wvw6UijzGoWGJl.1HsXdY1O3rf6048o5DqvGfuJUq2 ocyX4TTuTmW_6qNU.Yfnm56.t.TOe7kFdzbedgRB01oyig2eHgmIhCIzRNQP 4hnPKIyHqYnns0Ad3RXqSH14ipST.vHF6v8PLJkjnoALzqi3TnHvfuX9nE.F c09swglDG_J9iHAvF6WozLQ-- Received: from [10.152.202.22] (wbeech@166.137.149.99 with plain) by smtp205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2012 08:59:44 -0800 PST References: <943618231.541364.1353858243148.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <236BF9EA-AA45-4D3D-8496-F4581BF0F5D1@flash.net> From: "Bbeecher@flash.net" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:59:42 -0600 To: "suhringtr36@comcast.net" Cc: Triumph Mail List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When they align the front end they straighten to wheel. I tried moving the wheel over on the splines, but it never worked out. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:52 AM, "Bbeecher@flash.net" wrote: Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 25, 2012, at 9:44 AM, suhringtr36@comcast.net wrote: I am going to be doing some adjustments on my 59 TR3A over the winter. One task on the list is the alignment of my steering wheel. When I am driving straight, my steering wheel is off center to the left by a good 20 degrees. I have a split shaft column. Is this corrected as simply as undoing the clamp on the split column and rotating the upper column in tack to align the wheel and then reclamping the split, or is there more to the process? Do I need to disengage the stator tube first? Thanks. Scott Suhring Mechanicsburg, PA '70 TR6 '59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 10:19:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8CE43848 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:19:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1D8437E9 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:17:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hm11so2219197wib.2 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6EmhSa7URx+Am4SZGnbsDn1NY1i8HD/A/riL3opqkoU=; b=I7F26ccemnT3RbIk5pcxpkRKEFCztbHnbxKt29aPNm/A7oGdfrJoMgwM5MPMUrzIZY xo4cfbqi34nUuYo+//efq8BP6tPAu2G3qVcIfyF1U6yZBuIPXa8gstEGKpRWbnVF1q50 QlCS/qVCCpZz1bIc8tV7ph2IEEF2I2oXDZOGrfl4qD6nnstkaMzhG3rRxAjzCZ06r9cX TU0nogEtRlZ5R7gwkVxwo5bXJO7ws9lG1ZUveIoSOBdm+6+PjziyRnoh8TACD8x2Ncn+ JMIHmZYhVlXzQe7fCM1cXzXwEhFQz2Ca7I6BhKNG0ARgpYF3+ODaYhfpfqUD6EJZSx2q zgBA== Received: by 10.180.86.7 with SMTP id l7mr13823249wiz.5.1353863859731; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.60.7 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.60.7 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> <50B23EF9.8010706@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:17:39 -0600 From: Irv Korey To: Bob Labuz , TRiumphs Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FYI, 2 TR4's from my club (ISOA) were also there. We had a green one and a red one. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF 22767U Highland Park, IL On Nov 25, 2012 10:02 AM, "Bob Labuz" wrote: > Tim, > > I would speculate that maybe 10% to 20% of the original production. > > The 4 did not do well up here in the northeast with all the salt/sand used > during winter. On top of that, accidents took quite a few I would guess. > > I have had my 63 on the road 4 seasons now since restoration and I have > only seen 1 in all the shows/car hops I attend. I see a few 3s, many 6s, > Spitfires, and even a GT6 or 2 but the 4s and even the 4As are few and far > between. > > I was at Watkins Glen a few years back in the 3 during the Fall vintage > races. Triumph was the featured mark and the only 4 I could remember seeing > was Matt's, from Triumph Rescue, red 4 under the tent. There were many > other Triumphs but not the 4. > Same in the parking areas. The 6 was the most popular followed by the 3. > > Good luck on your repairs. > > Bob > > On 11/24/2012 09:03 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > >> I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 TR4 >> back >> together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to the body, >> bonnet, >> fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding to the radiator. >> Anyhow, >> the other day, I was asked a most refreshing question, instead of the >> status >> its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. >> >> The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a >> clue. I >> will add a second question, though I could probably research it, yet I bet >> that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? >> >> Tim Purdy >> Susanville, CA >> > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/emanteno@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 10:19:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698514392B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:19:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718AF40ECA for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:19:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so9275938iaj.14 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:19:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8zd4SBdE4GRX6vHKHZtPc4kg3EToY0LKPZWmBuev2Lw=; b=THejSKCynm3r7Tb51YxJOt9jLEeMyTH2zs89zXMkT9bLD2NqAS7O8kGZx7Fe2CRjye g7pOo0zCgOHVfvGrYqybpu0jUk6HSapbn7E+iBFFo60jgWJM06qbUjOCB0adohe7vu8Z dmBhpUIzi19ba7v1vm8ad5qr3K+xMkMyn4NaUUKsc9/VBz2krkYtuW7Z7VeEds8L5ZxP 0MjxvnB+pzce/mvxyCHWZ2rZddE6c8Kd1vVwQNrxj05GncG8BZTTXm0Hcr7GpwBzQf+4 T3R8E5R8phQxeDH0OVaXlRth6uYwJlmDl9njFkryfSxmu7GWj70V0yo3eCq9QqCPEogG LhYw== Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr11323084igb.44.1353863991515; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.133.136 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:19:51 -0800 (PST) References: <943618231.541364.1353858243148.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:19:51 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: suhringtr36@comcast.net Cc: Triumph Mail List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How you fix it is going to depend where you are 'off'. You want the car aligned and the tie-rods pretty much centered to get the correct steering geometry. Once that is in order (and perhaps it already is) then the wheel itself can be correctly positioned. I have always positioned the steering wheel by removing it from the top end of the column and reinserting it in the desired position. If there is no one position that is perfect then I get it as close as possible and then tweak the tie-rods for the final bit. Fussy work -- probably only worth it if a crooked wheel bugs you (it bugs me). Geo On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:44 AM, wrote: > I am going to be doing some adjustments on my 59 TR3A over the winter. One > task on the list is the alignment of my steering wheel. When I am driving > straight, my steering wheel is off center to the left by a good 20 degrees. > I have a split shaft column. Is this corrected as simply as undoing the > clamp on the split column and rotating the upper column in tack to align > the wheel and then reclamping the split, or is there more to the process? > Do I need to disengage the stator tube first? Thanks. > > Scott Suhring > Mechanicsburg, PA > '70 TR6 > '59 TR3A > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 11:50:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F874384A for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:50:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4996843820 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:47:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tugh1k0021wfjNsAEunfWW; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:47:39 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tune1k00T2xZMJ48juneHK; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:47:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:47:38 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: suhringtr36@comcast.net Cc: Triumph Mail List Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Either you or your alignment guy should start by measuring the adjusters on the right and left to see if they are the same. B You want them to be the same length so that the bump-steer on each side is the same. Once that is sure, set the front alignment. At this point, check the alignments of the actuators for the turn signal cancellation. B If they are adjustable (not that any of the British cars I have checked have adjustable ones, but I don't know TR3), adjust them now. B If they are not adjustable, someone has messed with the steering train in the past. B You will now need to open the clamp, and/or skip splines at the steering box or whatever one does on a TR3 to change the relationship between the steering box and the turn signals. Now, without moving anything in the steering linkage, see if the wheel is straight. B If not, move it on the splined shaft until it is close to straight. Normally, the alignment tech sets the steering wheel to center first, but most cars have not been screwed up in this way as most cars have a single-angle-fitting steering-wheel mount unlike the wherever-you-want setup of britcars. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: suhringtr36@comcast.net > To: "Triumph Mail List" > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:44:03 AM > Subject: [TR] TR3A Steering Wheel ALighnment > I am going to be doing some adjustments on my 59 TR3A over the winter. > One task on the list is the alignment of my steering wheel. When I am > driving straight, my steering wheel is off center to the left by a > good 20 degrees. I have a split shaft column. Is this corrected as > simply as undoing the clamp on the split column and rotating the upper > column in tack to align the wheel and then reclamping the split, or is > there more to the process? Do I need to disengage the stator tube > first? Thanks. > > Scott Suhring > Mechanicsburg, PA > '70 TR6 > '59 TR3A > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 13:24:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B3C4385F for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:24:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D82E43822 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:19:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 20:20:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.198] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 20:20:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 20:20:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 75547 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Nov 2012 20:20:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353874813; bh=++xmHph16cuNR49Rp6E1e9AK6Ck19ZGDDi/40BnJMzA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jmj57wxJANNop1sY/JH/3zKSFqQj3zr65AFkQdyiMW5DN0GowL8JxssDtH0zNhU5VsJQfyRrr57f275Z6FfSIOQ+G2LBnLFIJLT0K2x9f/vkyr48BwsijBoPPWcuCa3E6bBxVPXBPqVGiLNkirLD4Yj5MmJx++UtY2qxXxRgYZ8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DZq6lGzMujvGMsf1oH3YXfBaGTo/h2wYJYPwzEYG58PSts0k8p6GdTTMDfJpeIdgntR6WVwpBSb4FmebOSD+BmNXNQp78QTF/qFd6J6UXSciQNmLb5Ke64ANAi+uad7T1CGweXO/YiwtvKyS5L8ypgZNfydsZQ2LIcW4pHdoRas=; .UwYDwPNVr9x_tE2wJE83tcDyqL6YaMVE3EktUYJH09phdppFz3.RdOexA3A .zbwO3EnmgZBr6icsZfcqIGeRHBj4S6Qz6u0Nzg9CEp1snqhyvvxQDszGQil cfBCL6PV2Bpvx0FiKr0uWqM3Lvq9m0IZOexfeG3fMJl6085JYpG6fNuSNoWJ Wh7BFeQQ.lALHsbIdRFhE4_xyB3.KasxG5HJ1GFdjbtlvFwEhUOFmOBpyZ83 kj4EnKSJWzses4UYQrOh0NAZu2GYA7q3eQpjKU7EhE0eadgDvAJvFL9BfoVm Vk8V5rGcg342x.K7WL4Dg8l6kX1.g4eGxnLjaqPn1zTgev2SEzBQwe9BYW_Q GNPC5pAGx6InN4W1NAW.e0gWs_tElytIK571VAGmcVHxzQ3rX8.DJtHWCuYQ KzVCVeGlUIUuRUD_tSlGA.YJ4VpOsy0sppUGY0eXunWozHyHwYHQ20cc5CDK Vu7cu08y57mwd6VGmhMYbTZJTva3UBDCVW5md_WK.ohgqs3ih Received: from [24.233.34.48] by web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:20:12 PST SGFwcHkgSG9saWRheXMgTGlzdCEKMS0gVGhpcyBpcyBhIFZFUlkgdHJpY2t5IHF1ZXN0aW9uLCBiZWNhdXNlIG1hbnkgcGVvcGxlIGdyb3VwIHRoZSBUUjQgJiB0aGUgVFI0QSB0b2dldGhlci4gVGhlcmVmb3JlLCB5b3UgbWF5IG1lYW4gT05MWSBUUjQncywgYnV0IGFub3RoZXIgcGVyc29uIG1heSBiZSB0aGlua2luZyBUUjQsIFRSNEEsIG9yIGNvbWJpbmluZyBib3RoICYgTk9UIGtub3dpbmcgdGhlIGRpZmZlcmVuY2UuIFNvIHlvdSBjYW4gc2VlIHRoZSBjb3VudCBjYW4gYmUgV0FZIE9GRi4gVGhlbiB0aGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:20:12 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Holidays List! 1- This is a VERY tricky question, because many people group the TR4 & the TR4A together. Therefore, you may mean ONLY TR4's, but another person may be thinking TR4, TR4A, or combining both & NOT knowing the difference. So you can see the count can be WAY OFF. Then there's the factor of what Jonmac stated earlier [which I was not aware of, & Thank You for educating me (AGAIN) on that bit of info]. 2- When the TR6 started coming out, many TR4A's where in high demand as PARTS CARS. Because of the salt deterioration (as mentioned previously), totalled or cost of repairs, many people would purchase this car, NOT to drive or restore, But to cut up & sell for a profit. The person would sell the Engine (2.1 L about) & the tranny (Syncro in all gears) to the TR3/A owner. The rest of the car to the TR250 or TR6 owners, because of the IRS (A TRUE TR4A, not the American version with the live axle). So you can see why the TR4A may be fewer in count, running on the road, than the TR4 running on the road. Then you have to take into account of the people who try to counterfeit the TR250 by taking a TR4A & dropping in a 6 cylinder. Because of these reasons, one can see how a simple question can become VERY complicated in obtaining the correct answer. This is one reason that Randall Y. would type TR4/A when meaning BOTH TR4 & TR4A. At first this was confusing to me, until Randal explained what TR4/A meant when found in his writings. 3- Regarding Watkins Glen '08, I know that there were many TR4/A's there because of what Irv & others have stated, & I know that 2 more (that weren't mentioned until now) Mine & another Greater Rochester TRIUMPH Touring Club- GRTTC member's where there. How many TR4's vs TR4A's (counting TR4A live axle as different from the True TR4A's) are in each American car club? Because there are TR4/A (org vs live axle) that are NOT in TRIUMPH clubs, or in any club. On one GRTTC ride that I went on, had at least 5 TR4/A there which out numbering the TR3's or TR6's that day. I made a comment to one of our club members, that I believe that GRTTC may have more TR4/A's than the Toronto TRIUMPH Club (TTC) does. They an older establish TRIUMPH Club than we are. The question I'd like to ask: Does ANYBODY in that TTC know what their count is for TR4/A's running is? -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 13:56:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E274F43866 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:56:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0098343842 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:51:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id TwsC1k00253lu5001wsDEu; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:52:13 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <1353874812.75410.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:46:17 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 15:12:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8186B4384C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:12:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF7B4383B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:00:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TwuK1k0030QuhwU51y0bJR; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:00:35 +0000 Received: from OwnerPC ([IPv6:2601:2:2480:62:fc2d:ee0e:62a6:2389]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ty0a1k00Q1zcV1p3Ny0bHN; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:00:35 +0000 From: To: "Dave" , References: <1353874812.75410.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:01:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 62. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 15:13:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8AA438FE for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:13:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9509A4357E for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:03:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAPM3vTL032067; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:03:57 -0500 Received: from core-mae002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mae002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.28.133]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EA9FEE000086; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) From: TR250Driver@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) To: dave@ranteer.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353881037; bh=J8uCJRWo1DB8gZmJfHrhg4zPvjHTIpwtdMyL4GQfUio=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MYZuMJysFwM0IGTpEPq9dQpoy6uiHawX8qJIeYerNXXeOzkwaSuO0hLnHm0KMOSz2 lxo2RtNGCb/8NeUcEgeGogyV+S7hrZ50+34HnI1P76CuYRXoFs045u8X7zCaArx/Ua 6SG8mhcH1WIx+uxZ9NAFALszSeZLkiDsGBw+TGzs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338950b295cc3cb7 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, I have two TR4's. One, a 62 is sitting in the garage all cleaned up and prepped for winter storage. The other, a 63 is scattered about, some pieces are in the garage as I build the chassis, other pieces are downstairs in boxes, still more including the body & motor are 60 miles away and yikes I believe some of those pieces are in various locations as well. Still yet to be acquired pieces are currently on ebay, will soon be on ebay I hope, or perhaps at the various supplier's or breaker's warehouses. Darrell I probably need to exchange this all for a decent TR4A driver In a message dated 11/25/2012 3:57:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dave@ranteer.com writes: perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 15:29:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00A14384F for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:29:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8083540EBF for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:28:48 -0700 (MST) a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=dg3hAEBnQ7UA:10 a=jF9rCvEofmwA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=aR3G-wOw6HkA:10 a=_GLSuxTAKJ3dZ0mOLsEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:59992] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 21/56-00785-4BB92B05; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:29:09 +0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:29:11 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <138c.6b044462.3de3efcc@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 63 AKA the "White" car. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 15:59:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C484A4384B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:59:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669F5437FB for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 22:59:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.246] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 22:59:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2012 22:59:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 78083 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Nov 2012 22:59:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353884377; bh=lFDoVMn3k2dVl1v/JzYp6mzuQGXhX1R/vDMAfIzE+18=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fGwYfaQ5UPwKGzgkVz7LzNh1lwdgfVccpRgyJFOM9ftBR5YOZA/LVhi2g0Tm4OcrC/nLxl+vLzkdsxtfxFkP1Cccf+Oj5VBADZXVD7tHOr+2lgkA2cL6eIabpO6gXf8plXpR21YD8ULf1ApTOJS3mN3yPrBOLa25TCnT6TdIBAc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i9KWbpk+OjwrraQFpVMBS5cwuTCiEIhL6wm+xtiYm5UZqVPjfvTBSQxCGBUF0JCFS4ICr9JJt0URqEHlbYuuBi55j85W+tZ5VDl7hfc2BMiTt776OzkeCTlIV+jaUaSoFwi+bMXg+JC0nj67dp6Xcxyhwf44ooQhdPet4azp2tQ=; nN.5SS9y0lZ1UkSsOQiszSNoyL8wiYdVv9vaQ3pbRIxf4jsI5hkHSHI9PQ9m 9rAYaiK47D_vOaC3LbxC3mzP_7TNCCc97jMhajBFDWG3a5BEmbV5hLFinW27 pkYP4QLWCFdNLLDVawLw3_94ZZBLHk7pk7CyNGsjz4sKXjG.Y72nqTkzAaBv ZVSBKiUrSBkobPNc3qOTS5BlXypCXPwAJL49U7sMuGOXkRwWRo4pHCIxPAzt vYOFXo4Noo3F0K1te7OKFz7BPpz1xyUhBM0xMlISL0j4bUmVdrVb24zI8F05 ip8dM5rwnYyEKlb44CKzHyyzuVbUwQPU9xKN2hHHt98Apkarc_eMrbX57f0Z WJlYk.QYdC06lIHTDcQcDHTh4djm7Mzhi7peWMhO58cemuoOmPmkLZEXf0MA VKZ_cdvW4EzClOFEhB4eLB6BHyxwam44JfTEJCZuH0G7BYwJ93C6GxIxdrT6 uHFNiNLtUlHdmyO7MHFldv7BblDsRzJ3RaCIMeXuuo56aDGXyuoX3148KSi0 tAUoqYLe1dxkLDmcdq_4erWbEFcI6axcV.nlFZ5ciXt9Fkb1VS5yArzL77ju iC4MYtbY- Received: from [71.103.140.143] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:59:37 PST CgppbGwgbGV0IHlvdSBndXlzIGRvIHRoZSBjb3VudGluZyBhcyBpIGRvbnQga25vdyB3aGVyZSB0aGUgNCBmaW5pc2hlcyBhbmQgdGhlIDRhIHN0YXJ0cwrCoApodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRycmVnaXN0cnkuY29tL3N0YXJ0L3JlZ2lzdHJ5L2h0bWwvCsKgCmZyYW5rCsKgCsKgCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBCb2IgTGFidXogPHllbGxvd3RyQGFkZWxwaGlhLm5ldD4KVG86IHRyaXVtcGhzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0IApTZW50OiBTdW5kYXksIE5vdmVtYmVyIDI1LCAyMDEyIDIBMAEBAQE- References: <138c.6b044462.3de3efcc@aol.com> <50B29BB7.5000608@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:59:37 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Bob Labuz , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ill let you guys do the counting as i dont know where the 4 finishes and the 4a starts http://www.trregistry.com/start/registry/html/ frank ________________________________ From: Bob Labuz To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? I have a 63 AKA the "White" car. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 16:44:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E9B4384D for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:44:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7569843800 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id lz20so13188482obb.14 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:35:42 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=CGTFTaGF2KZGOAEr9ODHjufvD7imCrgnzYYW+9nuGZo=; b=FAXClI43I0aFST5RXUOVaxH4G6Aj/Y+huilU+HIs+urKNrhloUzekV5gbIc2lmAWxJ Fz3ZDzHenlFoZwH57LUSFfRa6EKddmXpo2i4ZTQHioMhu4HRu2edg8GqqdCM4g3HoAA6 GlFjqfLI9LGtqtuKFUWyZg5es3TJCMy0COdmM79Jd08vhtl4fQ+Q9u7/9/gJ/SE3OBw8 9GDIDI8rSgk93w9tFPsKrBKWj0i/bkBk+TTqfRLJMbEL5wqCDGOu1hGgKs7vnDeIe7e0 d5eDUf1hnCwnPdcMAOAWfc2LFg42I6oyIu9zamIeftbzfo+ouaRz9H4260RsGrLl6lKZ X8iQ== Received: by 10.182.184.102 with SMTP id et6mr7727500obc.102.1353886542521; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip98-180-74-162.ga.at.cox.net. [98.180.74.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm12703302obi.22.2012.11.25.15.35.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:35:42 -0800 (PST) From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , "'Tim Purdy'" References: <56B49FA2-32C2-4213-A8B0-9E1A77418741@citlink.net> <50B23EF9.8010706@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:36:08 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFS8e1FPCxAjofowKMO/Y4gwSeTNQFcTqjLmOYE8PA= Content-language: en-us Cc: 'TR List' Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 62 in the garage just out of the paint shop and ready to put back together. It is just like the old Monogram model kits, but the adult version! Jim Henningsen 62 TR4 CT5212LO 75 TR6 Miss Molly Ocala, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:53 AM To: Tim Purdy Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Tim, I would speculate that maybe 10% to 20% of the original production. The 4 did not do well up here in the northeast with all the salt/sand used during winter. On top of that, accidents took quite a few I would guess. I have had my 63 on the road 4 seasons now since restoration and I have only seen 1 in all the shows/car hops I attend. I see a few 3s, many 6s, Spitfires, and even a GT6 or 2 but the 4s and even the 4As are few and far between. I was at Watkins Glen a few years back in the 3 during the Fall vintage races. Triumph was the featured mark and the only 4 I could remember seeing was Matt's, from Triumph Rescue, red 4 under the tent. There were many other Triumphs but not the 4. Same in the parking areas. The 6 was the most popular followed by the 3. Good luck on your repairs. Bob On 11/24/2012 09:03 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > I am still going through a living hell, in putting together my 1964 > TR4 back together when it got wrecked while parked--the damage was to > the body, bonnet, fender, etc, not frame or engine, but a slight ding > to the radiator. Anyhow, the other day, I was asked a most refreshing > question, instead of the status its been 5 1/2 months since the wreck. > > The question was, how many TR4's are still on the road. I have not a > clue. I will add a second question, though I could probably research > it, yet I bet that someone knows the answer. How many TR4s were produced? > > Tim Purdy > Susanville, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 16:59:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA8943857 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:59:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F343845 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 16:54:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tytw1k0041zF43QA3zuxai; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:54:57 +0000 Received: from [10.231.92.251] ([174.228.67.8]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Tzun1k00W0Ahyfi8kzuqin; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:54:55 +0000 To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:54:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?How_many_TR4s_are_there=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net According to state registrations, there are 26468 TR4's/4a's in roadworthy condition. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: tfansher@comcast.net To: "Dave" , Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 16:01 I have a 62. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 17:14:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88B543859 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:14:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7718743845 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:06:58 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=jF9rCvEofmwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=aR3G-wOw6HkA:10 a=MSBlJsNhgkUzCqGA2tIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:61114] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 82/92-04063-0C2B2B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:07:28 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , References: <20121125235916.10B5F43868@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:07:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just curious as to where you get that information, number sounds a little high, that is about a third of those built surviving and roadworthy right? Thanks Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 18:00:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529B54385C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:00:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856643841 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:50:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U07a1k00F1afHeLA10r1D0; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:51:01 +0000 Received: from [10.231.92.251] ([174.228.67.8]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U0qp1k0010Ahyfi8d0qseu; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:50:59 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?R3JlZyBMZW1vbg==?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:50:59 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1353891061; bh=KcaMFRw2dugwEUkxNuqBqRMbl1d7xWnfc8JL3tax4BY=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WLj5GpAuzTUX9ktpqXo4Tk3AgwP1gjJEak2xGzxVLgxmPtbC2W1/SuZYaR0xauWzq gicCAqyOz1v9ONbKGPwMg7xMNuWpq1q9HgqHp/7mkqngUe3GZffV4Tf8HIhXwVcp9O 25H808P0Uw0+iRLeSN5fQkv1zUjONZ3W9Eeh2bUuwmpC+jGDWs0HRtsY2CDcvcpFo9 zrDTkwa7HiPt7/D72v5dSB+L4pc98DcT2YMtrSYz21/Zsd1cGdSx5uaJihZZuhiJyq 1vSCy+L9U8B8wc+TOHUbzXghHvvHS5LHehpJ+fSqzn3PwFkOFg2eR5PIR88tB5pozz tQEWHoAVQ67bQ== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?How_many_TR4s_are_there=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net State records online through a buddy at dmv. Apparently, its about 50%, but 250's are TR4's in some states. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: , Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 18:07 Just curious as to where you get that information, number sounds a little high, that is about a third of those built surviving and roadworthy right? Thanks Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 18:46:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BBA43859 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:46:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2644F43836 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:35:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ME2002WVN36J500@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:35:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:35:29 -0500 Organization: Carl Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac3LdlGSiW5GZs27SpmpSkTian694g== Subject: [TR] TR3A hardtop fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have some images of the installed hardtop fittings (without the hardtop). It looks fairly straightforward but some reference shots would be appreciated. Thanks Carl Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 19:47:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE68E43854 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:47:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A83A4383C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:45:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS7 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:46:21 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: , References: <20121125235932.AF29343866@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:46:19 -0800 Thread-Index: AQFrkOeDQxqqLpOoblrkFXw2yZOfg5i/3mkA Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[3792EA80:01CDCB80] Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Pray tell, How does one figure that out................legally? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of spook01@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:55 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? According to state registrations, there are 26468 TR4's/4a's in roadworthy condition. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: tfansher@comcast.net To: "Dave" , Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 16:01 I have a 62. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 20:18:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE0B4386A for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:18:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A8840EDD for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:13:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U2g31k0021smiN4AB3EC2y; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:14:12 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id U3EC1k00F2xZMJ48g3ECml; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:14:12 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:14:12 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Dave Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:46:17 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are > on > this list. I have one. I *had* one. I think it is going for sale again in San Antonio Texas. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 20:49:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374CB4385D for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:49:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DDC43811 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:37:42 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=jF9rCvEofmwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=aR3G-wOw6HkA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kXfpRUhvV45XuQU9l8QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=eiNksUESGWIA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=7Oz06dzoJ-vGT-uD:21 a=ZlJ4G2fig1IA_RsK:21 a=gkWl9WaXHsrPD-MB2JsA:9 a=1OYjWPoBdSvLQdsv:21 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:61912] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1C/22-18789-324E2B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 03:38:12 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , References: <4B.E2.00611.7FCB2B05@hrndva-mxlb.mail.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:38:13 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I was gonna say, the DMV stuff is locked up fairly tight the last 10-15 years under the Federal privacy act. I will add that when I did a search on myself and the cars I had titled in my name, some of the cars from my past were still on the list, if they "die and are buried" without telling DMV, I think in my state at least that title record lives on even though the car is dead and gone. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: spook01@comcast.net To: Greg Lemon ; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? State records online through a buddy at dmv. Apparently, its about 50%, but 250's are TR4's in some states. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: , Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 18:07 Just curious as to where you get that information, number sounds a little high, that is about a third of those built surviving and roadworthy right? Thanks Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 21:08:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4704843881 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:08:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BDD43847 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0700 (MST) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 141690051-1739096 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:52:31 +1300 From: "ashleys" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:52:28 +1300 Subject: [TR] Fw: How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "ashleys" To: "Frank Fisher" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > Hi! > From the TR Register NZ the list is as follows. > TR2 79 > TR3 26 > TR3A 62 > TR3B 1 [for sale] > TR 4 50 > TR4A 52 > TR5 22 > TR6 190 > TR7 102 > TR7/v8 21 > TR250 8 > Sidescreen 1953-62 168, 1961-1968 Michelotti 132, 1968-1975 Karm 190, > 1975-1981 Harris-Mann 131. > Not sure how up to date the list is,there are cars not on the list still > being rebuilt. > > Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 06:01:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E82743859 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:01:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDE240ED1 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 05:53:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAQCsARR012117; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:54:10 -0500 Received: from core-doc005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.209]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 223F8E00008F; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:54:10 -0500 (EST) From: Chip19474@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:54:09 -0500 (EST) To: tfansher@comcast.net, dave@ranteer.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353934450; bh=A9jWLtky+BOvRBkIaYhM+6C8vOy72hG9ZcSlGoK6oow=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pQnB12wqRx7X7Nuz6kSaUSicMvFQImAdV/smh0Q1aui30twx6N7lX/TkqG8ZjGW4K GI2szt3dH0l6dw+KH9r6Q4K46OJV1C9mwHMcJp8P6cWvaRIKXNU6WXt4MtgKXeWhlY 64j2aiPUtfCfsqVLNncNqkQx++ZdQG37NrHNpdR4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50b3667201a8 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net if someone is starting a tally.....mine is 1962 CT2052L Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1962 TR4 CT2052L In a message dated 11/25/2012 5:12:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tfansher@comcast.net writes: I have a 62. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/chip19474@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 06:17:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29D843869 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:17:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351BE43857 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:17:10 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nJszNhFNxHkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=-dX6rcL2y2gHnLGsIu4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=TVqSkL_cyAcA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:57810] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 86/D2-04063-2FB63B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:17:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:17:38 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 65 TR4. Dean Mericas 1965 TR4 1974 2000 GTV 1976 Giulia Nuova Super 2L -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 06:31:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576534389E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:31:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEEF43820 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:19:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UCtG1k0081ap0As5FDKbSg; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:19:35 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UDKb1k00Y2xV5no3iDKb0U; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:19:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:19:35 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1353935975; bh=oGt4tNRyLG9ZxVZIFmsiaVphhDPU93DjwE5pzaXkFIA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HERt3I7lsZFQvEC3bhEsJkhh7/JeDlrVGpu4kWMEhUl0yhkKvfsdodCIlh5NU1Iae Md9cipQ/VN3vlBrjox7f0CZvP4LaHGTctWqiEyz0OunQ5JquAD+j5WZoVBP6CoIvh9 04EIGGua5eM+upVmb7JHkllKxNCL31hFIOHbR8b2g5KyGuUY5+oyyTASGTR5oXzQ5L Kns//vYe95g4zmAjdLXbTGcV22eF/XRERUg+sTERPXSgbXhuDYyQ1V5vqqmDQh6OC+ 1Pfp+I52jkGLCPnWBGCnnvY0qU52Lklidb7BzG1e1I4VoUESHUG5en+btY5AedibcY JorpYlFOLqVng== Subject: [TR] electronic ignition vs CEI, HEI vs CDI - a little technical Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have been thinking about adding transistorized ignition to my TR4A. I had thought about adding a transistor switching unit. I have a Pertronix right now, but I am not at all sure it really adds any real benefits over a good condition points system, other than not having points. But with a failure on the road it,s a pain in the neck to reinstall the points parts. Plus the push-on magnet ring does not fit well on my distributor. I was thinking about going back to using points and add a transistor switching unit like the Boyer-Brandsen Kit0069. That way if there were a failure, it would be real simple to go back to points alone. With the transistor switching unit, the points will not arc and the contacts will last essentially forever (maybe not the rubbing block, though) I have the Delco HEI sysem on my TR7 and I have done a bit of research on it. It is a really nice system but requires a special low resistance (and lower inductance) than the normal 3 ohm or 1.5 ohm coils. It limits current to 5.5 amps for the stock HEI unit and adjusts the dwell to JUST get to the current limiting state before the ignition fires. This minimizes coil heating so it won't burn out at these high currents. I thought I might apply the HEI system to the points triggered TR4A distributor. But if that is done, then dwell control is lost unless you use some fancy electronics to convert points into a reluctor system. But then I saw that the Lucas CEI ignition has the GM HEI module at its heart! What coil does the CEI system use? I have not found reference to any special HEI-style coil being used with the CEI. Does the CEI system have a special HEI module that limits current to something less than 5.5 amps? Or does it have a special HEI type coil? Or does it lose the ability to adjust dwell and current and become a plain transistor unit like the Boyer? Here, I am going to get a little technical. I was thinking I could make my own pseudo-HEI system by making a regular transistor switching unit, but then add a current limiter. This would be a "12 volt" system, but would use a 6 volt (1.5 ohm) coil without a ballast resistor. The current limiter would replace the ballast resistor. The current would be limited to that which the coil would get at idle RPM with a ballast resistor.This allows the coil to saturate more quickly (or at higher revs, just be closer to saturation) and therefore would maintain spark energy to higher revs somewhat like what the HEI system does. Also, this design would allow more current to get to the coil when battery voltage is reduced during cranking, similar to the ballasted systems. From my calculations, I think I should be able to have double the spark energy at 4000-5500 RPM. And then there is Capacitive Discharge. I can see that CDI would be a good design for very high RPM, like well over 5500. But I am skeptical that it adds anything compared to a well maintained Kettering (points or transistor) system at the RPMs we would have on the street with a maximum of 5500 RPM. I suspect that the very brief spark(s) of the CDI system may not ignite the mixture as well as a nice long 2-3 millisecond burn of an inductive system. The other reason that I am skeptical is that auto manufacturers continue to use inductive systems. They have gone to great lengths to do so, resorting to things like one coil per plug, coil-on-plug, etc. If CDI were superior, it seems to me that it would have been a LOT cheaper to use CDI than make these complicated inductive systems. I am looking for people's thoughts on these ignition systems. -Tony ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 07:18:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5957043890 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:18:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C143860 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:11:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UDFX1k0081ZMdJ4A1EBp2g; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:11:49 +0000 Received: from [10.231.92.251] ([174.228.69.235]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UEBc1k00h54aBkm8cEBfWl; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:11:47 +0000 To: "ashleys" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:11:47 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1353939109; bh=jX82PYA5sGADsDG0rKG+yurvtYWn2y5oyONdy1Qe4Kw=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l2NAxSFU+Q1wEd9wzFls+QNzz7IG6A+y5/jO1YO5LKhSmnoBVpLneM/5bLLVX1rH0 poLKsD8qMPN/7zg66c5AN4ZwjjzHpIpCpjD7nQNzaQ5pwgnZ7HvRp+BcFpeJv+nmMu sztIHqU22IKgm8HmGKMhC7pZHjLumALMyNRKR9BbXXGsDPd8zqMTdzOgm1OGvqh5SA pTavzNBbKloQyNZRNmo2HEVxfFq4+Tkyrg0y5xsNXCxQBa1JpZG0MTjvfnVsXwN4/7 8zn9HPGtWX5pxoTvw6fIOb1IBk3zWussLwc692QC+uG+SD33ICA77eIArS0zMSYnFq o7IajjE+FsBHg== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A__How_many_TR4s_are_there=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would think that's a pretty high survival rate. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "ashleys" To: Subject: [TR] Fw: How many TR4s are there? Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 21:52 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ashleys" To: "Frank Fisher" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > Hi! > From the TR Register NZ the list is as follows. > TR2 79 > TR3 26 > TR3A 62 > TR3B 1 [for sale] > TR 4 50 > TR4A 52 > TR5 22 > TR6 190 > TR7 102 > TR7/v8 21 > TR250 8 > Sidescreen 1953-62 168, 1961-1968 Michelotti 132, 1968-1975 Karm 190, > 1975-1981 Harris-Mann 131. > Not sure how up to date the list is,there are cars not on the list still > being rebuilt. > > Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 07:34:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06021438A4 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:34:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF48743820 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:33:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail42-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.233) by AM1EHSOBE008.bigfish.com (10.3.204.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:19 +0000 Received: from mail42-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail42-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12A13401CF for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:19 +0000 (UTC) H:SN2PRD0202HT015.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail42-am1: domain of uga.edu designates 207.46.4.139 as permitted sender) client-ip=207.46.4.139; envelope-from=mathews@uga.edu; helo=SN2PRD0202HT015.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail42-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail42-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1353940457162547_22670; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.247]) by mail42-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C21D3C00FE for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SN2PRD0202HT015.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (207.46.4.139) by AM1EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (10.3.207.151) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (50.96.95.191) by pod51004.outlook.com (10.27.51.109) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.15.129.3; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:34:07 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 64 TR4. Doug +63 3B ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 08:20:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A6843865 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:20:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from rhombus.bright.net (rhombus.bright.net [209.143.0.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62B8437D0 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:19:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from spamtest4.bright.net (spamtest4.bright.net [209.143.0.182]) by rhombus.bright.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAQFI1NE012612 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:18:01 -0500 Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by spamtest4.bright.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qAQFJcBQ005711 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:19:38 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.2.4-GA) with ESMTP id BQC28564 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:19:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:20:02 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <20121126131738.S208I.262211.root@hrndva-web02-z01> refid=str=0001.0A020207.50B3888A.015D,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-09-13 19:33:14, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a '67 4A. Ted On 11/26/2012 8:17 AM, dmericas@austin.rr.com wrote: > I have a 65 TR4. > > Dean Mericas > 1965 TR4 > 1974 2000 GTV > 1976 Giulia Nuova Super 2L > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > > perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on > this list. I have one. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tedtsimx@bright.net > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 08:50:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A8743897 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:50:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC7B4383D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:46:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS3 ([65.54.190.200]) by bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'ashleys'" , References: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:47:08 -0800 Thread-Index: AQHuCCN65jemghXexyCAoSIamsWNJpe7yjxQ Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[4D742F40:01CDCBED] Subject: Re: [TR] Fw: How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Seems like a lot of TR2's Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ashleys Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:52 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Fw: How many TR4s are there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "ashleys" To: "Frank Fisher" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > Hi! > From the TR Register NZ the list is as follows. > TR2 79 > TR3 26 > TR3A 62 > TR3B 1 [for sale] > TR 4 50 > TR4A 52 > TR5 22 > TR6 190 > TR7 102 > TR7/v8 21 > TR250 8 > Sidescreen 1953-62 168, 1961-1968 Michelotti 132, 1968-1975 Karm 190, > 1975-1981 Harris-Mann 131. > Not sure how up to date the list is,there are cars not on the list still > being rebuilt. > > Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 09:06:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AB143863 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:06:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93D43857 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:03:18 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=eTDwC1C4WhoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CmATSI17WPUA:10 a=-WQTSZh30V08D4fpGLEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C6/45-21565-0E293B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:03:45 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:03:49 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3L2qLn624X2I33SMq58YDmTlcMBAADqgQw Subject: Re: [TR] electronic ignition vs CEI, HEI vs CDI - a little technical Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I ran a point-triggered multiple spark CDI system for many years on my TR3A. There were some teething problems, but overall it worked very well. I eventually tried some other systems, mostly because the bushings in the distributor were getting pretty badly worn and I was seeing a lot of spark scatter from the points. I can't say there was a significant change in max power, but with the MSD the engine always started a lot easier and throttle response seemed crisper at low and medium rpm. When (and if) I revisit the topic, I may try a Pertronix pickup combined with a MSD module in hopes of getting the best of both worlds. As I see it, the multiple coil systems are mostly to eliminate the spark plug wires and distributor (cap & rotor), all of which are problematic from an emissions point of view. There has been a lot of pressure from the EPA to build engines that will continue to meet emissions targets without having a tune-up for 100,000 miles or more; as well as eliminating "user" adjustments (like distributor position). CDI systems are always more complicated (and hence expensive) than Kettering, which is why most car makers stick with Kettering. And with precision mixture control, the ability of CDI to fire wet or fouled plugs is much less of an advantage. The teething problems I mentioned seemed to all be related to the MSD delivering much more current and voltage to the plugs. I found that plug life was shortened unless I ran colder plugs (or platinum); and the high current was apparently resposible for the suppression resistor in the distributor cap burning out. Apparently, even with all of the carbon burned out of the resistor (it was literally white), the spark continued jumping around the resistor until it burned away the tower in the cap. The first time I noticed anything wrong was when the spark started jumping from the center tower of the coil to one of the side terminals! I was able to limp home (actually it ran fine) by fabricating a replacement button from a paper clip. On the new cap, I removed the original resistor button and replaced it with a chunk of relatively pure carbon (carved from the center post of a flashlight battery), which was still working fine many years later when I decided to try a Crane XR3000 (optical triggered CDI). I could be wrong about this, but I think you will find that a GM HEI module will work just fine with a 1.5 ohm coil; at least on a 4 cylinder engine turning no more than 5000 rpm. Due to the current-limiting nature of the HEI, it will still saturate the 1.5 ohm coil, it just takes longer than with the lower inductance 0.7 ohm coil. The longer time to saturation means the spark energy will fall off at higher rpm, but since you only have 4 cylinders to fire, that will be twice the rpm where it would fall off with a V8. And still higher than with the stock points & 3 ohm coil. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 09:39:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D25043913 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:39:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.clking.com (72-0-139-103.tvc-ip.com [72.0.139.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0CC43820 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:26:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from clking01exc02.clkingw2k.local ([192.168.0.238]) by clking01exc02 ([192.168.0.238]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:26:57 -0500 From: "Mitch R. Meisler" To: 'Ted Schumacher' , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:26:56 -0500 Thread-Topic: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Thread-Index: Ac3L6YAHk9+Xp8sYTlSZ1AAd+rrUMgACVDAw References: <20121126131738.S208I.262211.root@hrndva-web02-z01> <50B388A2.8070609@bright.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have 66 tr4a Mitch Meisler -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ted Schumacher Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:20 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? I have a '67 4A. Ted On 11/26/2012 8:17 AM, dmericas@austin.rr.com wrote: > I have a 65 TR4. > > Dean Mericas > 1965 TR4 > 1974 2000 GTV > 1976 Giulia Nuova Super 2L > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:46 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? > > perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are > on this list. I have one. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tedtsimx@bright.net > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Holidays List! "Dave" wrote: perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. Well, I know of a white TR4 that was purchased in OHIO from a list member. The present owner WAS on this list for a short period of time, but dropped off because he still hasn't gotten the car on the road. It does run (very roughly). He's very busy with work & hasn't had time to do much work on this 'True TR4'. Now, would that be able to be counted as another TR4 car? I'm really NOT trying to make things complicated or confusing. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 13:26:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE80438A4 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:26:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBB643863 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:05:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:06:09 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.197] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:06:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:06:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353960369; bh=DY4/OFDJ5up5rc/PabUz53Ek+ogj88dseR9TcMvg16U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=Xh2naS1Rj/Bn3fCRZV5jRR1tQsHDJsPGVa2wIjSMnstB3d4yfGioChxLc2KWB1r7aNLcx8WPpeg+R6OExUNuePy0Ohm+MiS/C/mi9bhxcZHA61HhAuNWgx3FikWSgdtx0+b/i5dtg5mLiVT2jkHBd025kr2GcBy8R4GHf1wpwxI= SZ807UVWV8bQ8LzpupDAqW9Tez74ptY5mzkyY3kOZXeJ9H_kOnDtT8iih.5b gPh2y__Dgb6ip09acPws8U5iHzNRck_EFx35GNrPK7qA7F9Gdy9ZpScOtkxR eb1YOXp4uxsD2HxUeNd1VeFWqfPESDM0MQsCVqPkFP4ORv6mT7Lbo.7AMwsb H8UAHQ3Hovu529scFoZ3jdXThGYIBnhqxKDMMacaz3HY5w8VeihL4TdEcrzN f09LM0exiHvSIWNS90_7GJYIfUSnJhCYJHeUw2Ug7soPC9O7Rasb3bsRmAL7 U1oAmuui3P_HwTwmC2idlv5s7TqFpyM0u9GBwk1nX6bZ8Em.Olf1v1eyNkj4 iOcFlBlUxAS2QVXODM4thf4cZAjLHu1Q4SJ3k98KUgZ_JPowPTzIyVMso8O7 S1EucRwqFZGzAeZH1FmVeAh3nWTKDTZ_pv9eR5IoX4ps8aVVpFK_aU2YtCVM 4kmbWzdwSSdWDCzbM Received: from [192.168.1.103] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2012 12:06:09 -0800 PST References: <1353956189.63165.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Wb Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:06:07 -0600 To: Cosmo Kramer Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We have two early TR4s in our club plus a parts car. One is a one-owner. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Cosmo Kramer wrote: Happy Holidays List! "Dave" wrote: perhaps it would be interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. I have one. Well, I know of a white TR4 that was purchased in OHIO from a list member. The present owner WAS on this list for a short period of time, but dropped off because he still hasn't gotten the car on the road. It does run (very roughly). He's very busy with work & hasn't had time to do much work on this 'True TR4'. Now, would that be able to be counted as another TR4 car? I'm really NOT trying to make things complicated or confusing. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 13:58:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD71F4388E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874E4437E9 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:53:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:54:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.227] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:54:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 20:54:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25535 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Nov 2012 20:54:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353963259; bh=sN3TtPFgjDxOvJzQuve0q/Jk8dn+2JmCk4Fmy7i8jYw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vdye2zcuAceJjoZsSTpPm5HW/PpMbQDfktpeu8O0hEZjHiyJZewmXiC57ZU23YzUu6/urUYyo4X1M1OrvgK0VmveH6ElVGKf3Wki2awrdH7eJBw7uVzBmvlspA9IJ+apn5DYftHsZwANffS63UVLNz0PN9NeNHbEcaY8i5lXKiY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KqCrYBzWElrnFjYq+s5NrND2754+YonaeNZzhCn/6ihQlL4inQ9ffaZtJQaOvzreHFA6pRSblDLzZ86fKCY/5cYMUYbksSxaOYeJtN21WQYS8FEe1Hp7+wTadCaNV4UuDrJJrPaxaprNQlG7XfwNz1vNV+8afIu0+jOKkWlVtQA=; SFixonSGG4.1o.N6jb4iJxtnUNFxUxFFgNBbL.THKTvh48rfRxwh6Ft0uVDk d9wpSusAKH35.OIRU98k4M6XBhP5MomuAX_GI5u1UvlWmRe2bYE7dG7py1Zi mAjFGdElwLz7t3h4QR5rRCSsgx3dMn0Jy4zymZPin6FImNgJCrmPr14qp1GV _fKEM3RyskIVL5kmsjQs5t1qCk0sM.IS1ackFHhZVdvm4QyNDYB71OWn5Uui xnGPoNCFPZc7gYOlDAwY5v.esqgbCa6RXsTVrcMmbJMBr61oy.A6_XEB2LEW lgwPcrTkJlhIyNjoR4.8pKikhrmyX64Lxk_9U3PMGsEA7KiO_srw3wAYiJAY aMo0OgstpyiGXKdbMneJmz0jDYLUhLtJpa0hxSmq08hG56zaVvdBZqSTdh44 s1ajaIg4F14pf7TW8Eq.mFCHfzAj2EcWrsQj01G8r Received: from [24.233.34.48] by web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:54:19 PST SGFwcHkgSG9saWRheXMgTGlzdCEKSXMgdGhlcmUgQU5ZT05FIGluIHRoZSBFbCBQYXNvICxUWCBhcmVhIG9uIHRoaXMgbGlzdD8gSSB2aXNpdGluZyBteSBncmFuZGNoaWxkcmVuIHRoYXQgbGl2ZSBpbiB0aGUgd2VzdCBlbmQgKGhpbGxzKSwgJiB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIHZpc2l0IG9yIHRhbGsgVFJJVU1QSFMuIFBMRUFTRSByZXBseSBBU0FQLCBiZWNhdXNlIEknbSBsZWF2aW5nIHRoaXMgVGh1ciAoMTItMjktMTIpLiAKwqAKUExFQVNFIHBob25lIG1lIEA6IDcxNi0yMDEtNzI2NS4gVGhhbmsgeW91LAoKLUMBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:54:19 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Looking for El Paso TRIUMPH owers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Holidays List! Is there ANYONE in the El Paso ,TX area on this list? I visiting my grandchildren that live in the west end (hills), & would like to visit or talk TRIUMPHS. PLEASE reply ASAP, because I'm leaving this Thur (12-29-12). PLEASE phone me @: 716-201-7265. Thank you, -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 14:30:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27704389A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:30:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A86437E9 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:13:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm31.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 21:14:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.206] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 21:14:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 21:14:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5081 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Nov 2012 21:14:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353964463; bh=fuWxxpcO4gl3+Kb3WTdOKiF19uO3Rn36xDWkAAydOck=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=njQ6O/q5azdHolRRY5CdXUWFA1PFY1VnFziciJB9WhvpuUA89H2c0jxfBP3zez2IzigtpoFz4fEclanS0st9fLPM04fhDshpfjBlzmRgVkTzKGAdRC1mv6thGN4itw3M5MAVZd5OriR0nlkuIXN5ljMorMtUKY242bII9oUzgHE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fx6L6TFseVDGWPBElfrtCdw4J1wS/T3J0EeotwkCi5rOdNNRIURHv1XB3K24UnAazMCdGhABKQrl4HAWy+XDOG4AK7vXKc6Nz15L8/s7gQ9a0VxJey0es3zX5/bbSCj8JbB+heYSC5X4kKC13Xg7he6TP1mmPdBcN18B2NhehOs=; _troDib8jjRU9u6.uOVvrE9_JuWraVkCh2qc4oT6t3E4B8IrebNmub9.TJjc 5shfvHJlJbGvxZXeqb17RVkouWgRfMnIc6QUIF1Cm6Xr1aaBlGHDOT.xO8EL mO0KgiBQ2Dy1zlrRlluli_onOzMIp68oyyQiUTw1vhUCteG5Z33zAsdDljiY S4kOp3caJp70xJyOhUsL6OTRt7gIpExWOtBAkva_WtKSQxhqk0zwsNoVlzla QXcJsgP62Pu0VcNKmJ_2hlIXJHC5HwpYOEtYGuEtCbtyxuOTci8dC2rSGppX My53G8Kjw5oYDy7Yy0Vf3VvLB0mpBg_NstQRMQdB1J96Ua1BQdq0CbZoPJYq XkbeyYEZhTIvcuFsLhsDj110K7O3bVVev.zoNzcmdkJK_ZNaGuu3RoL5Tufw o31yxyIKI2DngeS1p8zukSFBqC9xgCtlvYKyAKgmlhw-- Received: from [24.233.34.48] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:14:23 PST SGFwcHkgSG9saWRheXMgTGlzdCEKSSB0aGluayBpdCB3YXMgVG9ueSB0aGF0IHN0YXJ0ZWQgdGhpcyB0aHJlYWQgJiBhc2tlZCBmb3IgaW5wdXQuCsKgCkkgaGFkIHRoZSBQZXJ0cm9uaXjCoHN5c3RlbSBpbiBteSBUUjRBIGZvciBhIHlyLiAmIGNhcnJpZWQgdGhlIENPTVBMRVRFwqBvcmlnaW5hbCBwb2ludHMgZGlzdHJpYnV0b3IgaW4gdGhlIGJvb3QuwqBBZnRlciBhIHlyLiBJIGhhZCBhIGhhcmQgdGltZSB0cnlpbmcgdG8gZG8gYSB0dW5lIHVwICYgd2FzIGdsYWQgSSBoYWQgdGhlIHBvaW50IHNldCB1cCABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:14:23 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] electronic ignition vs CEI, HEI vs CDI - a little technical Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Holidays List! I think it was Tony that started this thread & asked for input. I had the Pertronix system in my TR4A for a yr. & carried the COMPLETE original points distributor in the boot. After a yr. I had a hard time trying to do a tune up & was glad I had the point set up in the boot. All I did was to move the Engine to the TDC mark, unthread the 2 nuts holding the Pertronix clap & distributor unit, install my points distributor set with the clamp, & drove off. Never got around to check timing until the next years tune up. I just used the vernier adj of 1 or 2 clicks to get it back dead on. I still haven't had the desire or time to check out the Pertronix unit to see what the problem is/was, & I think I'm going on 3 years. It takes me awhile to get around to doing things. :>) -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:01:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062D0438D1 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:01:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA1A43882 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:34:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.196]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2F5A638000057; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5749AE00009B; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:35:04 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:35:02 -0600 References: <18A4FAF7-DB37-4453-B59A-DE966EFDE1BD@aol.com> <7FB2D465-E473-4CD3-966B-070AEBD44583@comcast.net> To: Robert Deanes x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353969305; bh=0JlgCI2XsLuJOdMUrpwjdkQa2SK2eO883g0nSR05prc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sU5AYMp++/qUrbuwkbf7fRO8BeP/Mtv4OIxhpWfo4He3+yH91LyKb4VNNKbiLJmQG C+wVTh6nlFfMmp5iv7CVP2Vq1+srAcdwju9UD6QxkcN+KgUa6nP0kdFa6CFmULJXCH mqDZPID6U0R4aRT54c9MEHx5njWRE7FPL316NI8s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c450b3ee962319 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , "6-pack@autox.team.net" <6-pack@autox.team.net>, "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] [Fot] Transmission Lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the response. The more opinions I get the more I find there is not a consensus. In the early '90s when we got our TR3A I was reading the Bentley's manual and I found the spot where they recommended the non detergent 30 weight oil. I have several TRs and two of them use the A-Type OD and the GT6 is, at this time, non OD. I have an OD unit for it in the shop so that is a future project. When we got the GT6 the previous owner used MT90 and I realized why. Second gear, if rushed, barks on upshift not on down shift which, to me, doesn't make sense. Syncros, in my experience always barked on down shift. Any one that can enlighten me on this? I was just looking for a "one size fits all" solution. The MT90 works good in the OD so at this time I guess I'll continue to use it unless there is a compelling reason not to. Thanks for all the responses and keep them coming! Sam On Nov 26, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Robert Deanes wrote: > I also run 30 weight in my A drive recommended by two old TR builders Dave Crane and John Esposito with no failures since 2007., got to love those old "A" drives....the fun in the button ...as close as I will get to F1 gear changing ! Wooo Hooo > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > I use Valvoline 50w racing oil in my TR6 A-type OD/tran and have for > 15 years with never an issue. I switched to it as a result of > recommendations from this great list. > > > Bud Rolofson > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) > 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) > Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Sam wrote: > > > I'm sure this has been discussed ad neauseum but I would like to > > know what the > > consensus is for Red Line lubricants. I am running an A-Type OD in > > a TR6 and > > regular tranny in a GT6. Which is suitable? MT90 or MTL? > > Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rfdeanes@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > rob deanes > TR Racer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:20:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3A2438D2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:20:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E959B43882 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:46:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAQMl5Z8000933 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:47:08 -0500 Received: from core-dbe001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.69]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D2C5EE000091 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:47:07 -0500 (EST) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 99.173.25.240 by webmail-m140.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.11) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:47:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:47:07 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353970027; bh=PiASBNsYDMgATVfv1oo7DIojf01kcD4+EIQbO0DfjBk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P+AArO29yPZosutyeURSIbuo8eASVk74zZ3mJ9qvKVRdA7uFWHUy0pIMsgDBjxDdh fXXb1pWi37VUZWc3BbVayJXcOzPTSkt1I/WiL7cgdP5PSXKMJv4VqUmAFf+ML3iKLW +i76DC1O48eZTGtcaIVka9cVghifk7F6tEx6tqQo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850b3f16b73db Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 461 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I still have my complete TR4 .. organized in boxes! Carl '63 TR4 since '74 CT22326L interesting to see how many (true) TR4's there are on this list. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 16:36:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9828438A2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:36:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F2DE943889 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:12:35 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 9231 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2012 23:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.0.207) by p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.82) with ESMTP; 26 Nov 2012 23:13:00 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:13:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3MKyn39QR8jCg8TJOThEsz8+vYWg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:01:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F3E438B5 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:01:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE3A43811 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:42:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:41:19 -0600 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:42:24 -0600 References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just accepted the fact that I was going to scratch the paint, and that stress went away. For me, adding those damned window seals to the doors, with those eff'ing clips, gave me the most stress. On Nov 26, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I > think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various > reasons: > - Worried about scratching the new paint > - Worried that the panels won't fit > - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time > > Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this > takes the prize. What thinks the list ? > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:01:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40D3438D0 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:01:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from sysfx.com (sysfx.com [204.107.12.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DA44388A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:44:08 -0700 (MST) s=MDaemon; t=1353973471; x=1354578271; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: Organization:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Reply-To; bh=Zw0aqLFgChmvE8GdsjEAcuSqxzUtpzk03n0zJPLvRe8=; b=L8i 1wt58WzlFSOYoTwEybCd8D+71QNDU5d0Ymw3CDXBnENXKlFa0EWjxuNhNz5D+arO rAT8Z+bLGXfryuQeYD+cA0RDx73DAOjlYLKC2d+UWxK+Mtrj5DVMw7d6qci6Giuw vvxaAjTQ48xXsbeXgCE20vw/+sO0png0ZF71SebU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=indiefilmnet.com; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=LSNYgP7GtLDCzNAa9JxjwtGoK3tg7lCUrQACNi1jtgiPL04bDFeKRoxdKaaL x8KrCCdS+OZzZtA6jCN8CWzLqQt6tamg2zagWv4uq/IWbifmOj4Q3gHmA Dvk/w8GJZnVvXCw4Q1AYzf6/yYtLPGqbfKspuNJB8TYaWaxNNRyEb8=; Received: from MARK-i7.IFN-MTL.COM by sysfx.com (Cipher TLSv1:-SHA:128) (MDaemon PRO v12.5.8) with ESMTP id 61-md50000121840.msg for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:44:30 -0500 processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:36:00 -0500 From: Mark Hooper To: "'auprichard@uprichard.net'" , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Organization: IndieFIlmNet Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Crashing it? :^) In my case, it was dropping a bicycle on the newly painted bonnet. Mark Hooper 1972 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: November-26-12 6:13 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:18:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4353543886 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:18:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934CC437D2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:49:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UNBQ1k0041ZMdJ4AFPpWnA; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:49:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.72] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UPpU1k00F4L5TyG8cPpVj7; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:49:30 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson To: Andrew Uprichard Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:49:28 -0700 References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> s=q20121106; t=1353973770; bh=e7Q2tLa9Y80hWoZNQxJ9dmLs7zGSOnx24hStrE4WYNo=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=F/qxhbiiNoJjNYXLEMaUF9kbm8VdlBCr4kBsmn/2qbXE1fSsf0aopfAAXUdamjOEn zcBOCdnGZ5KTFJj7x/WhFcsfc1Gr6v9YEx8SjxCGSrONufhv+6N48wegWayYfhPXy3 cYbh89S1j8U5TP/NQfdfUw81U1LPge/l38P9ZovopIhzCyuZJAm3937k35nl8KdBdh E7lfV44JSpSmnbVlwdxf31Vohx823YtDvkvNQ6Y0QZDQxblFVuT+kFRcrHubmo6ViS Alm7LhcHziiTKa8cUW7FBOTNOtcFS6WYLs0eDHJzrvSxHI5/00f1vc6a3jrkcAN8Sa 5bG06n3QsT58g== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Trying to attach the battery ground cable to the proper bolt on a TR6 transmission housing while it was in the car was by far the hardest thing I've ever done. Facing defeat for something I thought I'd do in 10 minutes but took me hours and the use of every socket extension and trick in the book, was stressful in many ways. My back still isn't the same. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back > on. I > think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for > various > reasons: > - Worried about scratching the new paint > - Worried that the panels won't fit > - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time > > Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think > this > takes the prize. What thinks the list ? > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:19:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C9843958 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:19:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F6743886 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:51:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so4564762ieb.14 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:52:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ipllI9+4w8v/j57Fnmq3QkWzpLw8yxtQaV0QWc1o8qQ=; b=XG2akzKDO6DlkmY/qoDcuoEd749GvvZTlHg56x3GNl693cCGd026ROgNNdIUin9bI5 j70XL+/ItH2+NVIf/v+osUOGifspz+p63KjrYFjoPDNVlSJG4uz1vsSEO787SdrXIBSw LVM/edxRVVO1CQu+4xX3QWuugRsQH/YEj2Fo/GuheQmp8Qv/iOFudFkXwTkkBr1iCb0x jtpexYauuK2ahIckrsbXjLtF+PD5vD/GGiVRLU7VBVkBCuLqgYTXnxZwd4Zso8ax/V8q Gy845RE3daqkUjiv0SRXy5pCzGaF2LtllKmphzc1sE28YE8jt14dMxr4f4QRkVgoEWDu ePhA== Received: by 10.50.159.170 with SMTP id xd10mr13527262igb.44.1353973926800; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.133.136 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:52:06 -0800 (PST) References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:52:06 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought an eBay TR4 sight unseen that was on an island in the Pacific Ocean. Somewhat stressful though all I had to do was wait & see -- but no match for your assembly of newly painted sheet metal. That truly sounds like nervous work. Geo On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I > think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various > reasons: > - Worried about scratching the new paint > - Worried that the panels won't fit > - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time > > Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this > takes the prize. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net oh yes From: Andrew Uprichard To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:13 PM Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:26:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8943A17 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:26:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E551435A1 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:59:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 23:59:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.7] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 23:59:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Nov 2012 23:59:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21799 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Nov 2012 23:59:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353974378; bh=9bg/5TqfSDZ8UUfIrA9KjFihbGTMFuuZtWk5P1cJ8wE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=osSkntWl1Jis1Km8d2URqXmPUULBZiQDIBhDbNCnE9xRog8/whsd8kxIIon0VZD3bI/KGLu7p+FBF8B33Eh0ku82P9ip7qYVnfrsSO5eXGv3/+9erimQp67qSsYiin5HMnX7ZrVBw6Yf/iYNtQ8fkfiynDH56seLKLThN32XucE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vayeFNPUilz7SysRWm7R9S9N7EcmES2/YvCVpSEjdUeHog/YUMchFmFt3nucY2yQh7TX5POAFkAYu49+ewIi8Lk+EWGxq/B5hGm7SpUr53c1sWc/Ktj1ElKlDZNc1FIG5JZ8bMp4geawT1JiQV4jx9JVo6mvxxC5UXYFBY18Bq4=; PMp8YD4Aln8xtKaVrIQOLoVd78pyANB6_1__eveGoABk6jL1lsI0vPNK6Bhx uxscnxosxINmPpQg.dUl0VFubfKHROokPzoSvI.n4vuoA1Aw9upirANOLLEA uWt8MWwdtgSE4xthJ6al8nXXdeXpVrP8nDPu.3M58G3umgcbZ1xzXpy.AtQg ZxOW4f2jY.nx3FPD3kB89odhoA35CGOXK.RBI9haAKEBxbdlBPa5r09cxo81 EjF0Q4MaMXEovuOvi5qmUIZwwgyIrz4fHbdfEglZFnnWGtgXWp5TQZDh5I27 08HJ9ee_H70DGwsh8SWv6qavUMjvNFWbqP8mmCdmjlaC24UEKrel6hV9fwoy p12gwcvxQK7jiM6gwfPC21h3nlKp9hSp9t3vqh0y4vKWnb88f2elPvLWWeDU z8f8qTXSqvpFWbB0kZ_22pw9iWoLp9_1NxOfKx7QOr1NpAzy_ThG.bl.UQ43 1o4GqL_7_lgp_ZioXp.rcDHfzr7YFl8rVTQ42VVLh6om8ctRTBdQRgGEhIBc BuXCf7x.vswNL6Yo- Received: from [98.184.156.213] by web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:59:38 PST QW5kcmV3LQrCoApOZXh0IHRpbWUgeW91IGNhbiBjdXQgeW91ciBhbnhpZXR5IGJ5IGZpdHRpbmcgdGhlIHBhbmVscyBmaXJzdCBhbmQgYWxzbyBydW5uaW5nIHRoZSBjYXB0aXZlIG51dCB0aHJlYWRzIHdpdGggYSB0YXAuwqAgVGhlbiBhbGwgeW91J2xsIGhhdmUgdG8gd29ycnkgYWJvdXQgaXMgc2NyYXRjaGluZyB0aGUgcGFpbnQuCsKgCkNoYWQgaW4gVHVsc2EKIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEFuZHJldyBVcHJpY2hhcmQgPGF1cHJpY2hhcmRAdXByaWNoYXJkLm4BMAEBAQE- References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:59:38 -0800 (PST) From: Chad To: Andrew Uprichard , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew- Next time you can cut your anxiety by fitting the panels first and also running the captive nut threads with a tap. Then all you'll have to worry about is scratching the paint. Chad in Tulsa ________________________________ From: Andrew Uprichard To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:42:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4A7438D3 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:42:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA7C43886 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:02:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS11 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:02:44 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:02:41 -0800 Thread-Index: AQGkru5YTr9Y5RezKFbGZYtd+hcO0JhPBgfA Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[86E26EF0:01CDCC32] Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Most stressful - Every sound the freshly restored car makes in its first 500 to 700 miles. Run a tap through the captive nuts while its still apart and chase the threads on your hardware if in any doubt. Use painters tape and clean bedsheets on panels to pad them as you get them on to prevent scratches, or worse yet - dropping a wrench, screwdriver or bolt onto them :( Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:13 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 17:55:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1262E438CF for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:55:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF084387D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:32:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 00:33:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.128] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 00:33:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 00:33:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353976380; bh=eHqw2OmTWBpAkwVoRPh6NzRRMK0p1whxP4DsZ7B0nZo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=gJdhOkbHX7roIaWC7BG/YLiKUawIj1bMQpGS5ax0raCSXtR0hG2d/en6MLx3hCAQ+9o8u6LR1iXXF+LfGurUjsIQLN6Q0giDBcXPqUe5SWll+4/RlH/HdcNckb0lZ4AKyVB7gx0AJPp3D2czFxbv/b4uhjxbYmT4HWmJWthJ+Lo= GynQZ8tdFa7s2lTqDO65Kcz4HQVsZjw04QAFGYV087TY4QBpDmDh3OcWVmC5 EuRP4OwCPVqZvX4r88h9h4FG5hWGQ4J6YDUl4t2FbmYaAknjOR3cpwJcCzVc u5vDbhNHUswTvBFisezj8be6_VcFOHl9U0SamimIcAmPmdorsgun00LG3ArP s1bJvPGRpVi2ZS37msp_kmfVvJGQb1U012Ce31juIRDh71qoNITLoqqoz48H AejQ3JhdJ6LrnEKfIsvFCWoBYtlTLQfUMnYHVnCJ6b.PP7IKf5MGIBKB2Oa8 dxortaYMwXaHITzStVA2zrp_c59GXppCb1Js3TVZPHepC0ljMIrC8dj3OMjR i6AAZuLhGSe7SrNn_eefXhjxkaFKOQNWAGIeRzC9Vy3E6QtNhMNkwEkZ2pdT 0wtuisJkCtT43PXBNyiJeEBp32joH99LNEfMdK7eytHb5_kqKuK.gZxmFjQd d3U2T9JRNPcotg.UmUBQ.K7AlAceL84k6JiWFlJ4Qd9wIWCcruq1EY_95i7P 5NzbGR_4E.5oQQbPGYirLNaHqPw-- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp215.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2012 16:33:00 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:32:50 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3MKyn39QR8jCg8TJOThEsz8+vYWgAC16yw Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Add to that getting the SS beading in place with out scratching the wing paint. HINT: Run a 2" wide strip of painter's tape along either edge before you start and have a steady-handed friend to help. Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:13 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:07:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C2843897 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:07:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F2C43882 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:54:51 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=uf4o1ZcJ0pMA:10 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=IL9lVhkRTAqn5Lo1mC4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Xy_FUz828SIA:10 a=1tS1eBUFBm8Db8rH:21 a=BNJPSiWuBJpLqK0Y:21 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:51898] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id B9/74-21565-76F04B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:55:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:55:03 -0500 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Andrew Uprichard Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hitting a freeway exit ramp too fast and learning the hard way that the left rear wheel is no longer securely attached to its hub. Or maybe starting a downhill ramp at 70+ mph and discovering that not only the foot brake but the hand brake are both ineffective, and there is cross traffic at the foot of the ramp. Took a long time to regain my composure after that one! Lots more stressful than worrying about some scratches in the paint, to me anyway. Of course, that probably explains why my car has lots of little scratches and dents :) Randall ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I > think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various > reasons: > - Worried about scratching the new paint > - Worried that the panels won't fit > - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time > > Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this > takes the prize. What thinks the list ? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:36:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE30438D3 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:36:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239C043875 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:12:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 01:12:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.161] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 01:12:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1062.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 01:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26091 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2012 01:12:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1353978755; bh=nAEupNOQdnjSekN73D9e8UuSeKsFrD0FF+/w/MdQpfE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EgKZWOfMlCpVA4tKkKh9d6YTr2bf3sariDb85daqcC3JdKfUGTnLH4cQ5zqJYSuWMaXIg0b0MyNNnhTnizdOFQTZCOgYehyKpY1rYPQSxgflJdYe+LZCngBRWqD5HiwMTT/dZQeJ58DuBPUbUVrHCD9MH/0SkANxi/ZVF4npX2M= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H+wSp8aA3eErpPSbPMPw6pbVwKDnsCSQatLT2T8XBTKDRiG4M4FLgJgSi4CxTuJ9PG1s4db+Fv2LlKNdhoV4WNMRGlrgYe7mAmT2LKnOn+X3GMc+UHBpucfxZjrFDmdm4uv4wjHhYCvDNXQvh2RZCK/LnTKpKTyU0VCHY3Xg7Q8=; HFoCKj.wGVTs6Vl_542uj9sW5LZRzHsVJr6wlqktHtIN9bd0BJAYR5hFpNSH d1gSnI_f1JLCD7Udq4.H8YfS6X2Axw1vz5jsne_Z_gW127AoQrM4hyec1lo7 2UcbizaqlOMhpCbcDSNcphbMxGImoU8zVuJJI6KBOYArR6a.En.AO1R1PKeJ rDifvrHGeKTinAMzl1CMxCguiam_sTcvV91erTbn.287oFUVts4ty11JoCgE KpterYxJ07vzy5n5hVCtScgiCzTKUpO.acKmxi7w_rV_W3CGZczvPpGRUNkX XaDIXYg_xy9a8hf_vOBsZEce8CcWypJRyzQmLytldRPfTA9Fj3S6rjj90QyU Jy62J5JCpA8i1YKmVHiCNJU3D_61gfC9HapBxivzezdtphl4NdNst.8ZexjL nMmXD7Bdd96W05i27m0dA Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:12:35 PST SSdkIGhhdmUgdG8gc2F5IGluc3RhbGxpbmcgZmVuZGVycywgZG9vcnMgZWN0IHdhcyBjbG9zZSB0byB0aGUgbW9zdCBzdHJlc3NmdWwgYnV0IGZvciBtZSBnZXR0aW5nIHRoZSBlbGVjdHJpY2FsIHNvcnRlZCBvdXQgZXNwZWNpYWxseSB0aGUgZ3VhZ2VzIGVjdC4gd2FzIHRoZSB3b3JzdC7CoCAobW9zdGx5IGJlY2F1c2UgSSdtIGEgY29tcGxldGUgbmV3YmllL2lkaW90IHdoZW4gaXQgY29tZXMgdG8gZWxlY3RyaWNzKS7CoCBUaGUgbWV0YWwgZmVuZGVyIGJlYWRzIHdlcmUgYWxzbyByaWdodCB1cCB0aGVyZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:12:35 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] most stressful Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'd have to say installing fenders, doors ect was close to the most stressful but for me getting the electrical sorted out especially the guages ect. was the worst. (mostly because I'm a complete newbie/idiot when it comes to electrics). The metal fender beads were also right up there for stress. After a 3-4 yr. restoration one gets so "antsy" to get going that the last few tasks can really become stressful, especially with winter approaching and wanting to get at least a few miles on. Getting the engine running well and 15 miles on relieves much of it. Now I'm looking forward to nice winter work of installing the top, tonneau and stick cover. Again, this list is a true lifesaver. I'd never ever get through a restoration with out the help and encouragement of the list. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:51:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF33438A8 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:51:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2E043890 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:24:16 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=GG3qEsE4G-oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=uf4o1ZcJ0pMA:10 a=ncUuzqw0vb_5kEDqK9QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50077] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BC/08-18789-95614B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:24:42 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Wbeech" , "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:24:45 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net First start of the motor you (or somebody else for that matter) is always stressful. My most stressful moment in the TR250 restoration was painting the stripe on the hood. Lots of fiddly work getting the tape right, fear of if you mess something up can you fix it or will you have to re-paint the hood. Most frustrating was fitting those stupid little pegs in the door handle and window winder, spent the best part of a hot Saturday in the garage fitting them, tried a needle nose vise grips, regular needle nose, tweezers, some sort of surgical tool like locking tweezers, very frustrating. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 18:51:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5C4438A2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:51:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D4A4388D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:32:22 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=eTDwC1C4WhoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CmATSI17WPUA:10 a=D3OvnCp7h1Fd69ceZw0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50078] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/CA-01260-04814B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:32:48 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Randall" , , References: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:32:51 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] electronic ignition vs CEI, HEI vs CDI - a little technical Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net " I was able to limp home (actually it ran fine) by fabricating a replacement button from a paper clip. On the new cap, I removed the original resistor button and replaced it with a chunk of relatively pure carbon (carved from the center post of a flashlight battery), which was still working fine many years later when I decided to try a Crane XR3000 (optical triggered CDI). -- Randall" OK, you live in California, right? did they use you for the inspiration for the old show McGyver? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 19:07:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFB143897 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:07:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BD74388D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:42:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA4A138E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:43:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:43:41 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <1353978755.25710.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] most stressful Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Under dash and exhaust work is what I like least. But I've not done much Triumph work lately. One stressful time was when I was at Bailey's and we had TS1 in for some work. I really, really, really did not want to screw up *that* car. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 19:26:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A381C4388F for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:26:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDA4388D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:05:07 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=GG3qEsE4G-oA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=uf4o1ZcJ0pMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=gFv25p1Svm9r5QYEhPIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50508] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 93/4B-01260-CEF14B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:05:32 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:05:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net oops, neant to say the motor you "rebuilt" below, most of you probably figured that out > First start of the motor you (or somebody else for that matter) is always > stressful. > > My most stressful moment in the TR250 restoration was painting the stripe > on the hood. Lots of fiddly work getting the tape right, fear of if you > mess something up can you fix it or will you have to re-paint the hood. > > Most frustrating was fitting those stupid little pegs in the door handle > and window winder, spent the best part of a hot Saturday in the garage > fitting them, tried a needle nose vise grips, regular needle nose, > tweezers, some sort of surgical tool like locking tweezers, very > frustrating. > > Greg Lemon > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 19:51:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760E5438B7 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:51:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48FD4387D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:27:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAR2RLwZ024599 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:27:21 -0500 Received: from core-ddc004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.141]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C24BBE000087 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:27:20 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1353983240; bh=7/I/h9TZ+dt6H8TVG5kNl8T1skXyhedP9lWIk5EF9Lc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fiIOm7JDIQs0sNeMCArZDXOKW4up6mM/0xd8yzSubUJX9Pja7dr7bFjL92AtVUqE2 sv0/D8YjTi9H3r1clObO73r9j5ygzVn3uA0i+yB1BH0QP+VaCIXikG1x5vJm5uHGKA NkwbKVPTDdMFzIjpGHt+qOtB3UCuOfu+uJgI+F5Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c50b4250836a7 Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For me it's trying to get the windshield out of a TR7 or 8 without breaking it i'm 1 for 3 Jack Mc In a message dated 11/26/2012 7:43:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jagmog@hotmail.com writes: Most stressful - Every sound the freshly restored car makes in its first 500 to 700 miles. Run a tap through the captive nuts while its still apart and chase the threads on your hardware if in any doubt. Use painters tape and clean bedsheets on panels to pad them as you get them on to prevent scratches, or worse yet - dropping a wrench, screwdriver or bolt onto them :( Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:13 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 20:08:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4A2438C4 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:08:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-04-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B62F43889 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:50:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from d23-16-27-236.bchsia.telus.net ([23.16.27.236] helo=[192.168.1.70]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TdBGE-0007Af-KR for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 02:50:58 +0000 http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:50:56 -0800 From: Allan Reich User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Blue Upholstery kits for 1975 TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings: I am planning a new coloured interior for my French Blue TR6. I am installing TRF's Shadow Blue carpet set and Shadow Blue Interior Trim Panels. I am also planning to do TRF's Shadow Blue Seat Belts. Then I have to do the seats and have a few questions about the big three and their seat kits. Anybody have an opinion on which is best? Also opinions of foam kits and strap sets. I am leaning towards Moss's "Blue" leather set, but not sure about what "Blue" is, as they don't say Shadow Blue. They are sending me a swatch but interested if anyone on the list knows how dark it is and how it looks with Shadow Blue. Also wondering if anyone with French Blue has a Shadow Blue interior? Would be great to get some pics if somebody out there has that combination. I don't think the factory had those two colours matched but maybe subsequent owners or special factory orders exist. Also interested opinions on if I am wasting money on leather vs pleather! Allan Reich Vancouver Canada 1975 TR6 - CF30255U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 20:24:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D1543895 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:24:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E5BB043875 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:08:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 29293 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2012 03:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.5.154) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2012 03:08:54 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Chad'" , References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> <1353974378.21055.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:08:50 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGkru5YTr9Y5RezKFbGZYtd+hcO0AF9ebWHmENOdmA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oh - I did. Fitted the panels so many times I was sick of it. But they still "move"... And I tapped or replaced every captive nut. Then one of the three on the lower door hinge gave out. Murphy's law. But at least there the repair will not be visible. And I agree with all the replies, too ! Andrew From: Chad [mailto:triumph74tr6@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:00 PM To: Andrew Uprichard; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Andrew- Next time you can cut your anxiety by fitting the panels first and also running the captive nut threads with a tap. Then all you'll have to worry about is scratching the paint. Chad in Tulsa From: Andrew Uprichard To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various reasons: - Worried about scratching the new paint - Worried that the panels won't fit - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this takes the prize. What thinks the list ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 20:44:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB79438B3 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:44:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF2143886 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:15:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-W130 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:15:48 -0800 From: marty sukey To: , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:15:47 -0500 References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net>, FILETIME=[7F36FA70:01CDCC4D] Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup, I'll second that one. :) Marty ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:36:00 -0500 > From: mhooper@indiefilmnet.com > To: auprichard@uprichard.net; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? > > Crashing it? :^) > > Mark Hooper ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 26 23:13:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162C1438C3 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:13:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31624387D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:58:13 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=eTDwC1C4WhoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CmATSI17WPUA:10 a=frVgQYKuuevjhxCFG3QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D2/09-00785-C8654B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:58:37 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Greg Lemon'" , Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:58:43 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3MPxuAxfNEuV0/TBOvKnfFvkDx+QAJCXzQ Subject: Re: [TR] electronic ignition vs CEI, HEI vs CDI - a little technical Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > OK, you live in California, right? did they use you for the > inspiration for the old show McGyver? Beats me. It just seemed like the thing to do at the time. No cell phone, no AAA card, and I still don't like tow trucks. And I had learned to cut brushes out of battery posts way back in the 5th grade (when I used them for slot car motors). They didn't last as long as the commercial brushes, but the price was right. Necessity is a mother, or something like that. Unfortunately alkaline cells don't use carbon posts, and the carbon-zinc battery seems to be a thing of the past. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 01:29:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E388438C8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:29:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D231143892 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:58:26 -0700 (MST) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 141869754-1739096 for multiple; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:58:48 +1300 From: "ashleys" To: "Cosmo Kramer" , References: <1353956189.63165.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:58:38 +1300 Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi! I have a one owner 1966 TR4A. Done 67000 ml. Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 06:02:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CE2438C8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:02:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpb.amphenol-tcs.com (smtpb.amphenol-tcs.com [164.109.34.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635744389C; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:34:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from odin.atcs.ad.amphenol-tcs.com (odin.ltd.amphenol-tcs.com [131.101.178.204]) by smtpb.amphenol-tcs.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qARCZDO4014680; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:35:14 -0500 (EST) References: <1353956189.63165.YahooMailNeo@web39405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: "ashleys" From: John Dunham Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:35:13 -0500 HF45|April 10, 2012) at 11/27/2012 07:35:14 AM Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net, Cosmo Kramer Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mark me down for a 62 TR4 - CT8056. It's been doing a great job collecting dust in my garage since we had our third child... John D From: "ashleys" To: "Cosmo Kramer" , , Date: 11/27/2012 03:29 AM Subject: Re: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Sent by: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi! I have a one owner 1966 TR4A. Done 67000 ml. Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.dunham@amphenol-tcs.com ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. To report SPAM or other related email issues please send an email to Postmaster@amphenol-tcs.com ______________________________________________________________________ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 07:04:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E573438FC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:04:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.ctinetworks.com (smtp2.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056664389C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 06:35:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.214.12.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.214.12]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp2.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 261B41D20A7; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:35:45 -0500 (EST) From: "davewillner" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:35:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 1. Fender beading 2. Grill 3. Stone guards 4. Rebuilding the control head assembly 5. Sorting out the electrical gremlins after installing a new harness Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? >I just had a car painted and am putting the fenders and panels back on. I > think this is probably the most stressful thing I have done, for various > reasons: > - Worried about scratching the new paint > - Worried that the panels won't fit > - Worried that the captured nuts will fail this one time > > Driving a restored car for the first time comes close, but I think this > takes the prize. What thinks the list ? > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 08:22:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C698438CA for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:22:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBFD438BE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so9447884pbc.14 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:07:19 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=NrWjG/s0HUT7dhasJuaZTULr5MjFOGTPPKuvpurtfCY=; b=oydc+KM+f46WEnf8x/WpvAmocnY3wtG2au2XgamkuwGokSpesDntDvoZ4+/6BzooYW 2kQyosv+dmHoceh9qqZP8fzyUNkIiLk0ykyfcm6uxkH22sKZ5NTFYG4E/7f3/eAfCkSu LM+9v7cp60cV9E1GvGjmkK8xtxxI80F6Es2Nb9GpNybViPh97Uof1hDr5BMf3xW1h+23 hnpeyLGpxofJMSCsPB/xqRql4Y/W65YyWwsdLb9WuFhUwVB6e75GjT46ixNO1SUtMVFf ausVMMaaS099LXgVeRTIBJgGhunPqje5sIqv0+okwk36DS5T0ScilsXs0m9n/lnK+LRj G5cA== Received: by 10.66.72.100 with SMTP id c4mr43131858pav.64.1354028839164; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tm5sm10756395pbc.64.2012.11.27.07.07.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:07:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:07:12 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <006c01cdcc2b$9594f640$c0bee2c0$@uprichard.net> <1353974378.21055.YahooMailNeo@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <008601cdcc4c$8a9788e0$9fc69aa0$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Never having taken a car down to its individual parts and then reassembled it before, *THE* most stressful thing I did with my TR3 was drive it for the first time after reassembly. As the time for the initial drive approached I stressed out more and more thinking of all the things that could go wrong such as the rear axle assembly to fall off, the steering wheel to come off in my hands or somehow for the front wheels to turn independently, or the front suspension to fall apart or a wheel fall off or any number of things just to fall off, break or any number of catastrophic failures. I have a very active vivid imagination. The first drive came and about 3 blocks from the driveway a front headlight rim fell off and promptly flattened under a tyre. That was the only part that fell off. But I did experience intermittent fuel flow problems which exercised my AAA towing card a few times until I traced it down to an intermittent fuel flow interruption at the fuel tank. I pulled the fuel tank after draining it, removed the sender unit and looked down into a tank with dirt, oak leaves, dead pill bugs and ear wigs. When I rebuilt my TR I did not have a garage so I put up a steel pipe frame and a tarp for a shelter and rebuilt the car on the dirt under a big oak tree. When the fuel tank was taken off there was deep rust under where the felt like padding sat against the tank. I sent the tank out to be boiled out and to have patches welded on. Afterwords it sat for a while on a pallet along the edge of the covered tarp area while I worked on the body. Once the tank was cleaned out and reinstalled the fuel system worked properly. About 3 months into driving the car locally to try and build up some confidence in the results of my work there was an unhealthy noise starting to make itself noticeable at the front left corner. I pulled over and looked for anything out of the ordinary. I touched the knockoff and noticed it was hot. Another flatbed tow later the TR was back home had I pulled the front wheel and started disassembling things. A new front bearing had failed. It seems I had set the front bearings up as to the instruction in the main part of the workshop manual which was for front drum brake TRs and had not noticed that there was a supplement in the back for disc brake TRs. I redid both sides to the supplement specs and was off again. And those were the sum of my TR's teething problems at the end of my very first and hopefully very last total car rebuild. Though it still took about a half year before I would trust my work enough to throw the TR through tight mountain corners on the side of steep hills or drive outside my 100 mile free towing range. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 13:16:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E9D438F9 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:16:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B7F438C8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:58:54 -0700 (MST) a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=amMdxWkm_WMA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=KKN65-vDE6QA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=eiy5GcRZhjwA:10 a=u-nz8HqAmE6ATCuAmN4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:59974] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7C/5B-00785-39B15B05; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:59:16 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:59:12 -0800 Content-language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac3M2aoT0Lfbvl2sTcan5MXpJSae+g== Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I didn't say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer (figured it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow the bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid and the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy work. Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. Stepping off the box now... Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 14:13:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDD34390F for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:13:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5864438E1 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:59:31 -0700 (MST) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 141933207-1739096 for multiple; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:59:45 +1300 From: "ashleys" To: <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:59:44 +1300 Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi!, Fitting a rebuilt engine to a TR6.When running in at 2000 revs a bad harsh sound coming from engine,oil pressure normal,not good so out came engine had a good look at shaft,pistons etc no fault found.Went ahead and rebuilt another TR6 engine only used rebuilt cyclinder head.While the block was away getting rebored/shaft grind i spent more time to see what was causing this strange sound. Guest what,a simple fault was found.When i pulled this engine some years ago i found that the short oil pipe fitted to the oil pump was loose at the lock nut.When refitting the shaft and oil pump i did not check to see if there was clearance between gauze and bottom of sump,so on inspection the gauze had a flat spot and shiney,like wise the sump bottom had awee wear mark. At 2000 revs the oil pump gauze was beating the sump like a drum- get the drift. I went ahead with the fitting of the replacement engine,now run in and no such noise,a pleasure to drive. I now have a rebuilt short block TR motor for sale. When rebuilding TR 6 over 8 years i had to by in [19] new inner panels,rear and front panels ,rear deck,b posts,sills,not one panel was correct size,one inner left guard was 32mm short in the arch area,my supplier told me that the other 5 inner they had in stock were the same,the supplier didnt what to know.I was given 40 UK pounds credit for me to correct,as for the other problems,tough luck you get what you get. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? > Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement > body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I > didn't > say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. > Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer > (figured > it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to > totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a > little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow > the > bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid > and > the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy > work. > > Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. > > Stepping off the box now... > > Brian > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ashleys@farmside.co.nz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 14:28:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A924390C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:28:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F0C435B1 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:01:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 21:01:28 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.121] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 21:01:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 21:01:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 86167 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2012 21:01:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354050087; bh=X8rbuyyiNn+YIKttG90xZRAv8PjeaTQSogsznE3MXtk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Huuae6C754QWG1VqSOvXxVpTvN4AdNz/J8X/7vzne+CcWLM3SQUMpfcCV9fXjoVQFj+dnVafXU/wU2ROSkWlMCqBdusgAmHBdAkyDfKmrCpABds6OqvA2LFWKdGztYyOUabTTt1uhkRA85FV3OvL43JLPficTerQGTx6ITx7sSU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s38uy16sEKkZb8pkjbGYptfvjw8aAdjus4SUPLJHkCtPaO+j7QOv90+gjCygscSUOe8y+wAyqKywmm2ySA0pe14kjTIbmAXcRa4PBz+CcmuMMQprOE25+ButXRmiB58BpRbQu4O3EHBTMS97NVHbk0ywOEU9IsgQspDmKjLeUkU=; x9CWIKWf6yd4YHhwJRoV6H7YcGcmbIQb3tBK_rar4shuqqewd9Ddf8Kf.BBe FR3oI8yxPmwm0KeJ0Axs16AIeIhibhGbz2Vabx_fACiIFGK9Az8_QC3GFOsb 5isKYOa1UOPKVHFT8E0wCu1CYM6h78FwsbgYgq2X1bcmjr8BrVMTVhZVA7z3 MAf1iB9SXF_b6A7QZi8BzFWYROxGMY28mp5lK0fuGD7qRdg2YvJZni08jXNj bPVwbYDR4npcpmFx.iLrZuR2qqt4d9KCC99BdFI1HBQQIZU5Xd.Qr87CgtGY O_Ar8pCDicgfzEQ37pDloA1t16c2wXpIYVDuKXdebb06irX51RjqTCx_gYzE eh013CHynKIRGE020x7S.QNWu0_uSSYlMQKeWM8hAgHmyQLOf5wug3nvSXc_ fyqKb1uBVvrbQXlDWMYUCxM.BucWk_WtQB8U- Received: from [90.196.181.29] by web29404.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:01:27 GMT QUZBSUssIFJpbW1qZXIgaXMgYSBCcml0aXNoIE1vdG9yIEhlcml0YWdlIGF1dGhvcmlzZWQgc3RvY2tpc3QgYW5kIGNhbiBzb3VyY2UgdGhlIHNvLWNhbGxlZCAnb2ZmIG9yaWdpbmFsIHRvb2xzJyBwYXJ0cyBmcm9tIEJNSC4gSSBndWVzcyB0aGV5IGNhbiBhbHNvIHNvdXJjZSBub24tQk1IICd3aWxsKHNvcnQgb2YpIGZpdCcgc3R1ZmYgZnJvbSBvdGhlciBzdXBwbGllcnMuIEFkZGl0aW9uYWxseSwgaG93IG1hbnkgcmUtc2hhcGVzIC8gbW9kcyAvIHdoYXRldmVycyBkaWQgdGhlIE1HQiB1bmRlcmdvIGluIGkBMAEBAQE- References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:01:27 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: "308gtsi@roadrunner.com" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net AFAIK, Rimmjer is a British Motor Heritage authorised stockist and can source the so-called 'off original tools' parts from BMH. I guess they can also source non-BMH 'will(sort of) fit' stuff from other suppliers. Additionally, how many re-shapes / mods / whatevers did the MGB undergo in its 500,000+ model life? And in the middle of all that, you have the human factor of incorrect part labelling / computer failures et al. After 40 years in the parts business, anything can happen and usually does. Jonmac PS NFI or any other involvement with Rimmers or anyone else >________________________________ > From: Brian Induni <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012, 19:59 >Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? > >Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement >body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I didn't >say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. >Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer (figured >it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to >totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a >little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow the >bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid and >the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy >work. > >Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. > >Stepping off the box now... > >Brian > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 14:57:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F19143920 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:57:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B5840ECE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:31:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS23 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:32:05 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'ashleys'" , <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> <6FA38A6B1B6942CE9C217132A211A140@AshleysPC> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:32:00 -0800 Thread-Index: AQGMVwnIcSsAXpZHgzzgbbUTQwU6hAJUGqXAmG58J+A= Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[A59B1180:01CDCCE6] Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Last December while on a shakedown run, the harmonic balancer on my new AH 3000 engine broke at the woodruff key slot. It then chewed up the lockwasher and then dognut came undone. The dognut exited through the brand new radiator and then to the bottom of the freshly painted aluminum cowl/shroud. It also chewed up the end of the crankshaft. All told the damages were about $1,700 on the freshly restored car with 25 miles on it. I am restoring a customers AH3000 now, and received the engine back from the machine shop last week. Out of curiosity, I pulled the damper, sandblasted it and sprayed it with some pb blaster to look for any cracks. It had a crack at the woodruff key slot.................. I have recommended to him that we replace it rather than suffer a similar fate. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ashleys Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:00 PM To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Hi!, Fitting a rebuilt engine to a TR6.When running in at 2000 revs a bad harsh sound coming from engine,oil pressure normal,not good so out came engine had a good look at shaft,pistons etc no fault found.Went ahead and rebuilt another TR6 engine only used rebuilt cyclinder head.While the block was away getting rebored/shaft grind i spent more time to see what was causing this strange sound. Guest what,a simple fault was found.When i pulled this engine some years ago i found that the short oil pipe fitted to the oil pump was loose at the lock nut.When refitting the shaft and oil pump i did not check to see if there was clearance between gauze and bottom of sump,so on inspection the gauze had a flat spot and shiney,like wise the sump bottom had awee wear mark. At 2000 revs the oil pump gauze was beating the sump like a drum- get the drift. I went ahead with the fitting of the replacement engine,now run in and no such noise,a pleasure to drive. I now have a rebuilt short block TR motor for sale. When rebuilding TR 6 over 8 years i had to by in [19] new inner panels,rear and front panels ,rear deck,b posts,sills,not one panel was correct size,one inner left guard was 32mm short in the arch area,my supplier told me that the other 5 inner they had in stock were the same,the supplier didnt what to know.I was given 40 UK pounds credit for me to correct,as for the other problems,tough luck you get what you get. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? > Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy > replacement body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can > supply decent (I didn't say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have > to slice, dice, and reshape. > Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer > (figured it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended > up having to totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it > wasn't just a little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off > that didn't allow the bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the > gap between the boot lid and the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, > and so on - all the same crappy work. > > Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. > > Stepping off the box now... > > Brian > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ashleys@farmside.co.nz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 15:18:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E894438E8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:18:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4188E43897 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:51:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1319C1C000206; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ddb004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.77]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CD641E000088; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:51:25 -0500 (EST) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Full-name: McGaheyRx Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:51:25 -0500 (EST) To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354053086; bh=ByCE9R1prperzTBLDSAQ7gqRHVRJ3nwvgMZsPYmH5RQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cUfxr3q5CfDy29bZIJ3aaPoCjNiHqCmXLYafm0Heuv7Z5A3sIq78JQX24MunDYMcQ Ezf+4QQobwRVeTYcPKPVTnsazC5V+fDlljcQn8J/9q96lawunC4WQ5V3RtXPv/aMRL Vj/nGHbUtDVjNlg0fCYJGF5bzONpJqudP7HIAK7g= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b50b535dd353d Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have fitted at least 2 of BMH approved TR8/TR7 front spoilers from Rimmer which I am certain were produced from original tooling to exactly original specifications - They are just as ill fitting as the original and all have to be warped in the same direction as the originals were, to stand any chance of getting them on. YMMV with other parts I suppose, but I wonder how many fit incorrectly BECAUSE they are EXACXTLY like the originals. Cheers, Jack Mc In a message dated 11/27/2012 4:28:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: AFAIK, Rimmjer is a British Motor Heritage authorised stockist and can source the so-called 'off original tools' parts from BMH. I guess they can also source non-BMH 'will(sort of) fit' stuff from other suppliers. Additionally, how many re-shapes / mods / whatevers did the MGB undergo in its 500,000+ model life? And in the middle of all that, you have the human factor of incorrect part labelling / computer failures et al. After 40 years in the parts business, anything can happen and usually does. Jonmac PS NFI or any other involvement with Rimmers or anyone else >________________________________ > From: Brian Induni <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012, 19:59 >Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? > >Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement >body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I didn't >say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. >Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer (figured >it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to >totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a >little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow the >bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid and >the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy >work. > >Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. > >Stepping off the box now... > >Brian > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 15:19:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865B243937 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:19:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from grief.its.queensu.ca (grief.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB15943897 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from bc400a.its.queensu.ca (bc400a.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.70]) by grief.its.queensu.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id qARLrC7x004586 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA (S26.N12.queensu.ca [130.15.12.26]) by bc400a.its.queensu.ca with ESMTP id PxGKpkeVBUwD3XUR for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from MP-DUP-MBX-02.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([169.254.2.49]) by MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:53:12 -0500 From: Brian Thomas To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Need "trashed" TR4A Driver's Door Thread-Index: Ac3M6PtFALKTurPPQrqtFHQ6GXfP0A== Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:53:11 +0000 Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [69.7.251.14] TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Subject: [TR] Need "trashed" TR4A Driver's Door Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, I'm looking for a "trashed" TR4A LH door with a good check-strap pickup - body shop wants to cut it out for use in mine which has gone through a number of fixes welding in part of a washer - this just doesn't stand up. Anyone have something appropriate? Cheers, Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 15:49:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A395D438FE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:49:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A0E7643949 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:33:27 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 21425 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2012 22:33:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.110.68) by p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.237) with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2012 22:33:42 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:33:44 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGMVwnIcSsAXpZHgzzgbbUTQwU6hJiBLxNA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I restored my TR3B I bought 4 new fenders (at around a grand apiece) and had to cut, weld and fill them. Maybe the car was the wrong shape, but they just would not fit. For my latest restoration ('57 small-mouth), I decided to keep the original fenders and accept a lot of bodywork time and a liberal amount of bondo. TR3 doglegs are the worst - I ended up returning several to the usual suppliers here and sourcing alloy ones from the UK. Let me know when you start making your own panels...... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Induni Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:59 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I didn't say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer (figured it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow the bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid and the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy work. Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. Stepping off the box now... Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 16:29:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4287343907 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:29:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D03438A5 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:09:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 23:10:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.5] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 23:10:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2012 23:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 88097 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Nov 2012 23:10:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354057813; bh=rYz8pxSBbNsKLyk2Sx6iXjOxtCOcBQXGp4GxECFqYfA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EAcBY8deAsE7iYHsa1/2hD27cC1z/Gl3nt9R+w99MEDdZlxWnEim57YGhIfVX8ywlnSKgJDRjhWskFO/uUlxIw6uyDYdN+KnBrC/ElD34/+T9f3BG1fEm4EM9ih6z/60tSmoLwIZd0vpK8hzqdLQV5G1hbqjxJtNX0E0MyyVH4I= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nk+2C2wygezn/H3IFQgSJk03qgnJivsX/jjCVbIn57u/YUldYXbchcadlXEMHZZIK7D28pA2lWGb0i4xxxCnt/88fpV1takNV3ACVuQYLxfp8q3UYGByO4TpKGgbSHanzL9o0BCnB/ljwFTNX+likho/2hUa8iX9LH0NVyuDVm8=; XFQdIt8Q69ja5p4UJm_alvR1h7PYeteZyfBFGoOPRpFP8CuALkh4dZTcKgyx 3EynH0TVXZUSUUXGYgJ3OEi.31rYTZl36eAQCjKakb1PwACZTrVdJpP3RQ_9 KgzYoDPdT3EpoGJ4gQ2ehnpZ0Uss5hA8bUJ8bqsBZ4aedJU50OMNkuEzeiKn NAmktHrH12JZjmrszEEzVwdTIfHa2XnsauvEGhHaBxT.z.ojqTJ5P.66k3gC aQyJUklL9ATghXO4hc85ZAwOyHnU4hioSkMXiNlWz15YaDgtQ_SdOjHMQ4e8 AoFHiz6DVqggYwsDzB2s2anw2.XkGeIdnAT81bssZIKZY1_4e76T.X_Y6MIS jVVYLq1PTS2_mAAfyDpbafB6ufprKfhY4uodxOaZW2IjkiUWFtr3a2AOLG_8 US.s8SQJfF4.JElHdGLSUKlsKsZLF6oxrRJ81u47Vsv5Kf2ETiWQ1VjukZL6 lnhAez4omIcpYdgeyEp_OnJ1l4K_8 Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:10:13 PST aSBhZ3JlZSB3aXRoIGEgbG90IG9mIHRoZSByZXBsaWVzIG9uIFBJQSBwcm9ibGVtcy4KwqAKc2ltaWxhcmx5IGkgd2FudGVkIHRvIHB1dCBhIFRSMiBhcHJvbiBvbiBteSBUUjMuCm15IG9yaWdpbmFsIGZlbmRlciB3YXMgbm8gd2hlcmUgbmVhciBjbG9zZS4gbGlrZSAxIiBvZmYgYXQgbWlkIGN1cnZlLgplbmRlZCB1cCB1c2luZyBSYW5kYWxsJ3MgZmVuZGVyIGZyb20gaGlzIHdyZWNrZWQgY2FyLiB0aGFua3MgYWdhaW4uCsKgCm9yIHdoZW4gc29tZSBmb29sIChtZSkgbWl4ZWQgdGhlIGhpZ2ggYnVpbGQgcHIBMAEBAQE- References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> <00bc01cdccef$435cfcf0$ca16f6d0$@uprichard.net> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Andrew Uprichard , "308gtsi@roadrunner.com" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i agree with a lot of the replies on PIA problems. similarly i wanted to put a TR2 apron on my TR3. my original fender was no where near close. like 1" off at mid curve. ended up using Randall's fender from his wrecked car. thanks again. or when some fool (me) mixed the high build primer 2 part with the epoxy primer and sprayed it over completely finished tub. it never did dry. but stressful...defiantly putting the painted panels back on. all that work and effort could suddenly be ruined From: Andrew Uprichard To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? When I restored my TR3B I bought 4 new fenders (at around a grand apiece) and had to cut, weld and fill them. Maybe the car was the wrong shape, but they just would not fit. For my latest restoration ('57 small-mouth), I decided to keep the original fenders and accept a lot of bodywork time and a liberal amount of bondo. TR3 doglegs are the worst - I ended up returning several to the usual suppliers here and sourcing alloy ones from the UK. Let me know when you start making your own panels...... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Induni Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:59 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Most frustrating thing for me on ANY car I restore is crappy replacement body panels! I haven't found one source yet that can supply decent (I didn't say perfect did I?) panels that I don't have to slice, dice, and reshape. Case in point - I ordered a rear valance for my '63 MGB from Rimmer (figured it was close enough to the source to get it right) and ended up having to totally reshape it to get the correct curve in it. No, it wasn't just a little off - the curvature of the panel was so far off that didn't allow the bumper to fit and I could stick my hand in the gap between the boot lid and the edge. Dog legs, fender repair panels, and so on - all the same crappy work. Seems to make sense to buy a shrinker / stretcher and make my own panels. Stepping off the box now... Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 17:37:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199DC438F6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:37:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849194393F for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:28:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ME600B819BEL5A1@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:28:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:28:22 -0500 Organization: Carl Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac3M/0XFjLdDeZ7XR2WgiIOYdP3QVQ== Subject: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Was looking for a switch and came across this online electrical catalog at http://content.yudu.com/Aydsc/HoldenVintageClassic/resources/1.htm They also have a Triumph specific portal at http://www.holden.co.uk/displayProductsByMake.asp?carMake=Triumph &carMakeCode=T2 I wasn't successful on my switch search but found the site and resources interesting. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 17:51:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4643908 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:51:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7537438D4 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:45:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hj6so3887484wib.2 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:46:16 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JkxEdDDf5TmCQQH/1B/fbPiqSMkUUf29eETy2Bdn/Y8=; b=Qqc5W1ZIh41ZZdzZs6tZFz3zPpQwOvAjRuPP2ytJOKh1W7qLXl64wmaL/Cvt8HxQlI 8feku8MpOWybHrl0yxZQ0O8NVwMZgE89cjwmI9lAr6mxiPiOXeRKBW3kfveDZcYQ4SRR Ij4C5N7gr27l49zzWe+dk3s66OllZoOrCq45Y7vfSkVzCRKxwIWJSLTCLEtmk/NL23NU CIdPinBshuxWjuFN19E0S+/K3KrvfcLmx00Szfu7Q8DCXS4m8mC9gVPKDy5Krz8S2EJG rwj9DNtpG/pk3iOIjf+hvihkR/8of/COWZH14sAYob2CH1pJal9zCFaqlOSy+ZbtkqbL xr+A== Received: by 10.216.52.74 with SMTP id d52mr7271871wec.73.1354063576525; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.55.144 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:45:56 -0800 (PST) References: <003d01cdccd9$ac9025f0$05b071d0$@roadrunner.com> <00bc01cdccef$435cfcf0$ca16f6d0$@uprichard.net> <1354057813.88022.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:45:56 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] what is the most stressful thing to do on a Triumph? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Most of you know I had my TR2 in high school..... so the most stressful thing to me was trying to get to 2nd base...... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 27 22:45:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32099438F9 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:45:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc2-s3.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s3.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AC143873 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:36:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT133-W38 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s3.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:37:17 -0800 From: Dave Murphy To: , Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:37:17 -0500 FILETIME=[6DE4BCC0:01CDCD2A] Subject: [TR] Blue Upholstery kits for 1975 TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Allan, If the colour swatch looks the correct shade, definitely go with the leather! Leather is worth the extra $225 for the unique wrinkles that appear as it ages and for that wonderfull smell. And I think it breaths better than the original "vented" vinyl. I had the seats redone on my '76 TR6 in the spring by a pro. The foam started disintigrating in 2008 and by 2012 the seats had become extremely uncomfortable. I think the pro (Pete's Uphostery in Taylor Michigan) charged around $220 and he did a perfect job using materials I'd purchased from Moss (on sale at 15% to 17% off) - I bought the black leather kit & seat foam kit for 2 seats and a diaphram with mounting hooks to replace the straps and hooks on just the drivers side cushion. Vicky Britt and TRF don't offer leather. The black vinyl that came with TR6 is extremely durable and I I could have reused it, but I wondered if that vinyl (or even the new vinyl) would look good in another 5 to 15 years. I also added seat heaters which makes top down T shirt driving on chilly summer nights or fall mornings possible and the standard alternator handles the load just fine. -Dave Murphy Dearborn MI ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- Allan Reich wrote: Then I have to do the seats and have a few questions about the big three and their seat kits. Also opinions of foam kits and strap sets. Also interested opinions on if I am wasting money on leather vs pleather! Allan Reich Vancouver Canada 1975 TR6 - CF30255U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 03:24:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F9243920 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:24:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9D143914 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 10:23:11 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.223] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 10:23:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 10:23:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354098191; bh=en76KIzv8RDhVEK6jyaeDiM6FN6jyUTkVikz+jqPhRA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=DRDcVYxuWXYhFrCtWZOASaEgbtZN5D8y1uV9U9ziwvhucIW2CSzijNWbmSGH1W96R8py1/EDODKl8OsEz0W1sZ/rez9Tu6WVMFXf2sk/RBFGOR+bPRP9UNfaiKZeZlUHAme7U8bfXjZMrlftw1PS5PXQxd0KrWMtAdaO1X0iUh8= K9m8eGcuNzqWUpC9HyIbvEzvPqSe7aJVXRlpLZw7qG1j8_gwWtQpmVRaY51s XleLatxAotz8NMKrQ.IS66Gsu9Hnl1siEkeNfHTQKxRyrcqvbD_tfRS.tk9s 1ff4aJkUa8b3X_1dLwhZuvX5aBdoJL4oDPwfa6QK_.sEElN6ZNJnSwtfBDbZ 6.MQfh6YwCTF1p2WfGlx56IMysCTZZc3RDLSaXS7ZArBSSMx3_2o5BNK_9Un RKxMVtB19T96cTg7Z0j61Ix2UmggHQkH6alYmS9TEvntIZGl7GoiVVzpKbWZ Hi.mojcTDz7bVLK3hWglQvnUGuGVECBPOVXWt6DAh5sB_6XG3vJHT1LJKFS7 pTgMnvP8VqcUzT1d663n3xllJficyPuYURGk2CGblR2Jkef3ElM..uF4mIh1 ydWTm8eTNthx8EVtLN08b4VIa9hP1f76MLKaQ3F4wZsiQoBk1YQRXi4UXVJ3 q2DH0E3gSDA-- Received: from [192.168.1.105] (lgmtr6@76.29.134.85 with xymcookie) by smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 02:23:11 -0800 PST References: From: Triumph List Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 05:23:08 -0500 To: Dave Murphy Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Blue Upholstery kits for 1975 TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave Ive bought a few seat kits over the years. I currently have a French Blue 74 TR6 which I restored about 9 years ago. My car had no interior when I bought the project so I went through the same drill of choosing interior color and style. I choose the TRF seat kits in black vinyl due to the faithful reproduction to original patterns. After many trips and miles they still look new. I had put shadow blue seat kits into a prior sapphire blue 74 TR6 and red kits into a 71 white TR6 and they looked great as well. (TRF as well). The only problem I had was the shadow blue carpet faded very quickly. I also used the black leather kit from Moss on my first TR6 restoration from 20+ years ago and they were very nice, and wore well, but did not have the original pattern. That's a long time ago so they are sure to have changed since then. I've not used Vicky Brit but have seen their light tan seats (not an original color) and it is beautiful especially on the BRG car I saw it installed in. Finally, I just reupholstered my Stag seats with new kits from Rimmer Brothers. While nice, they are not the same quality as I have seen from the US big three but I was limited as Rimmer was the only affordable option for the Stag so I wouldn't go with them for the TR6. So, I think the answer is they are all quality kits and to go with the color and style you like best. IMHO. Larry Miceli Mount Dora, Fl 74 TR6 (done!) 73 Stag (at the painter!) 58 TR3 (in boxes...) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Dave Murphy wrote: > Allan, > If the colour swatch looks the correct shade, definitely go with the leather! > Leather is worth the extra $225 for the unique wrinkles that appear as it ages > and for that wonderfull smell. And I think it breaths better than the original > "vented" vinyl. > I had the seats redone on my '76 TR6 in the spring by a pro. The foam started > disintigrating in 2008 and by 2012 the seats had become extremely > uncomfortable. I think the pro (Pete's Uphostery in Taylor Michigan) charged > around $220 and he did a perfect job using materials I'd purchased from Moss > (on sale at 15% to 17% off) - I bought the black leather kit & seat foam kit > for 2 seats and a diaphram with mounting hooks to replace the straps and hooks > on just the drivers side cushion. Vicky Britt and TRF don't offer leather. > The black vinyl that came with TR6 is extremely durable and I I could have > reused it, but I wondered if that vinyl (or even the new vinyl) would look > good in another 5 to 15 years. > I also added seat heaters which makes top down T shirt driving on chilly > summer nights or fall mornings possible and the standard alternator handles > the load just fine. > -Dave Murphy > Dearborn MI > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------- > Allan Reich wrote: > Then I have to do the seats and have a few questions about the big three > and their seat kits. > Also opinions of foam kits and strap sets. > Also interested opinions on if I am wasting money on leather vs pleather! > Allan Reich > Vancouver Canada > 1975 TR6 - CF30255U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/lgmtr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 09:22:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FCC43923 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:22:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc3-s14.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc3-s14.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737B6438FA for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:21:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from SNT133-W26 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s14.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:21:32 -0800 From: Dave Murphy To: , Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:21:32 -0500 References: , <3D48F234-6B83-440B-83EE-27A4E7196C91@yahoo.com> FILETIME=[6DBCA870:01CDCD84] Subject: Re: [TR] Blue Upholstery kits for 1975 TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Allan & Larry, The upholstery pattern on my black leather kit that I bought last year from Moss for my '76 TR6 is identical to the original vinyl pattern (same number and size of horizontal pleats, panel sizes and piping locations, etc.) except there are no diamond shaped angle-cut vent holes in the horizontal leather pleats. -Dave Murphy, Dearborn MI > Larry Miceli wrote: I choose the TRF seat kits in black vinyl due to the faithful reproduction to original patterns. Dave Murphy wrote: > > If the colour swatch looks the correct shade, definitely go with the leather > > for the unique wrinkles that appear as it ages > > and for that wonderfull smell. And I think it breaths better than the original "vented" vinyl. Allan Reich wrote: > > > > Also interested opinions on if I am wasting money on leather vs pleather! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 10:50:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2234393F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:50:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6AC435C0 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:45:05 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=CnlRxOKYQjIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GZ4EjAzlR5sA:10 a=hVajpjXaAAAA:8 a=NBJ3RStrQyMuKuOBpAMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MZtLLAFhdjIA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 99/73-21565-2BD46B05; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:45:23 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'Triumphs'" Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:45:30 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3M/0XFjLdDeZ7XR2WgiIOYdP3QVQAkJYWA Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Was looking for a switch and came across this online > electrical catalog at > http://content.yudu.com/Aydsc/HoldenVintageClassic/resources/1.htm Watch out for shipping, though. It can easily cost more than the part and I have even had a customs broker wanting more after the fact. (ISTR that order was from Rimmers though, not Holden.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 11:05:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209F643936 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:05:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44B443875 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:57:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.233] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 17:57:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 17:57:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 82696 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2012 17:57:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354125452; bh=RUvbtqVwySCy8FUAy1mAicVITjoEHxIl/G7xvzk3/Qc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fa+qAWHMZ2DpPQB0qp+obR36Fb8ZjDjPNJRopOUFGlyAobsmCJ87zjKANHZLCEPOi+oQVuEan1G4AKRrR5LpJgop+r9Ewq/xX4U814yV0Bcwpcqzx54dpFlxq3QPtEluNHG4KxMll+vgQk5Ue1hZsVHoD6rf3Lk1UhEjdFjrbKc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ApZpX5/fFHoGqiO93dAA4aw4NeHCi0MRQiwGZkEf32nXsqtkwFDNyyrz1m7bPF1E4ufr4+rb8ztaD4ZPtrsLoh0Q/Bd8qyp73cawQK+Q6ZCQKmrgYuiTpLg48KqeOCcttWVntlLTeeAHmyXcEBV50hRk+2bLQ/3e4Lb31oCw6TA=; nzzd2FlWmyqVUzsVq6J.EMcOkECmvs_SohjvGsItNnjsvyCLmjnyCUAfb2Tq 2ccx5Wigliux8x4qe2OHGeZdCjt1txVLx5N8Qp2yCTApV3T77ez38QzxxCXt IIxFnlFTpWqhRI1U3dGTe1aLcJQ6pqd6qfSRpi9pODvGvxKGsnB2RyxsXTl5 AdQqBfVSI5mu5sx27kWgv5ugaD0u4SXDYXuq78wGhjPd89gxpyV82Mz_grt2 1ealDmmxBr_8hkB5zwKn9QGk961M4i9TExF5hc4YzOq2vLcwXtmVSZbjAaeI zgz0c1VRUhMezHL.3rM4lkGRdzkdN0V_ZHPN5hGSrAdR753lIme7GD..Qcnt YCPbBNVbr4JWuorw1pZ.lRwTasH8sUMZdTnUOisetIQyIWMmXPfztNIx22yk PoUQRdzGrFEuEdTnBsIddKG2rG7vxlHyBCfqNazNE7Qhrz4y_JzGBqGMSxFM bhUKh0BqB3Dj59wZjsmqADYj4H5sAeKo3ezdVwz_WsHGY4LEA.QerAKBHjUN mpCqylxCWWeHzu70vOHUnSqTbCuyhVcJf1R4tn5Kfclwyu5gLketYql4ZgYO SyPRw6KW_njzPxKgqNTVXEokpMU4SoAkF3Xcn7A-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:57:32 PST aSBkaWQgbm90IGxvb2sgdG9vIGNsb3NlLiBidXQgcmVtZW1iZXIKQnJpdGlzaCBoZWFkbGlnaHRzIGRpcCB0byB0aGUgbGVmdCwgd2hpbGUgVVNBIGhlYWRsaWdodHMgZGlwIHRvIHRoZSByaWdodC4KwqAKCkZyb206IFJhbmRhbGwgPFRSM2RyaXZlckBjYS5yci5jb20.ClRvOiBjZm10cjNhQHZlcml6b24ubmV0OyAnVHJpdW1waHMnIDx0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgTm92ZW1iZXIgMjgsIDIwMTIgOTo0NSBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1RSXSBIb2xkZW4gVmludGEBMAEBAQE- References: <001901cdccff$464f2090$d2ed61b0$@verizon.net> <99.73.21565.2BD46B05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:57:32 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , "cfmtr3a@verizon.net" , 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i did not look too close. but remember British headlights dip to the left, while USA headlights dip to the right. From: Randall To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net; 'Triumphs' Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK > Was looking for a switch and came across this online > electrical catalog at > http://content.yudu.com/Aydsc/HoldenVintageClassic/resources/1.htm Watch out for shipping, though. It can easily cost more than the part and I have even had a customs broker wanting more after the fact. (ISTR that order was from Rimmers though, not Holden.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 12:44:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E6643940 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:44:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D021E43873 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:44:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj3so6196208pad.14 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:44:19 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=Q8ZsPqAze5ML3T7QIQS2LJjZtbBcpG9HJnewTkMuhTs=; b=ErJ+uz3OIUyg3NEHzn/KVvco8QKVlxtXb86VXGtO4M6dhk2dwBItJH1K2yLOGnII+G EAIm+QSSySm/Yk4flO5O2owqb0nXjr7F0KbY0dp6ce4HtIjqayZTAMRESnyeKjG66krD GbztswDW5CNYE+zoeG4N+/HOpFmxP2BnOG4gJ5JonpsQ6EJg9mu9Wm5R7fkFHdIL3zfm jC1ifzHzidw7CIJYTT9QGlQnIw/SSdSJAAhBoYR44r/osSxhKzok2yaTlWCHf6Y92YKZ OcZ214/cr3epqJT41wuvZ/2yb9AUDVu6bewfrK4y13f4XfDpD9pyf9+UHtvjgh4OHMw1 GeQQ== Received: by 10.66.73.135 with SMTP id l7mr55371040pav.55.1354131859256; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMD5400 (122-59-245-167.jetstream.xtra.co.nz. [122.59.245.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o10sm12972254paz.37.2012.11.28.11.44.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Vassiliadis" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:44:17 +1300 Thread-Index: Ac3NoJ6LbemroIacTd6AtpYjEbp6eQ== Subject: [TR] How many TR4s are there? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A bit of progress at last. My 1962 TR4 is back in my garage after being stored in my mothers garage. After removing the engine to have it recond and taking some of the car apart I ended up doing very little on my car. The engine has been recond (only did 20,000miles on the previous recond) and the car now sits in my own garage with my wifes Honda del Sol CRX on the car pad. I have started to work on it again. I need to brush up on my welding skills. My excuse is that I was busy painting my house and starting up my new business. Heres hoping I continue as I miss driving my TR4. Its a 1962 with the original engine and box. Jim and the black TR4. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 21:07:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430574398F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:07:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215A643913 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:04:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 04:04:34 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.251] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 04:04:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 04:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 42370 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2012 04:04:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354161873; bh=GINjhYPyGZNre/1pg1PI+6zVTs/KyM17ijlUoTBxIAo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q+qwFIsLo7syAlIv3MMSeDiDIPbaVAeGkq87xy/c0fg7PscUwkNzKJ3YUy/0yJmq8oX1LD+SIhZmzQwWtMBh5NLwEEDhsZgHa7BaLjEycNh0rv5LQddFkV/s1j/Ia1Cnv8wxhKq/w9dL1dFYOarMs2p8EKj12J4SH2EJD2L0iNU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g5rqjZbFou8k5kVOkUR3CPdL2K25k17dmFga0kj9bSE1DM9ylfvYbJSMeqNMvhjohECpHHbQa58Rb65wZaSxJkUTGvxGU4jYUm3rADmFAEFT3VIeUMBLbwJnYGNoOV10TFBZa19BTVN9ducA1Jp0iV+nBvkAWoSPT5oC8bOXMsE=; Io1LtO2xXoyLID8ouStVgJaoBBOVx6vAK3QsZ7inu1kYhx67R5E9XO1mVcWa biOArIipaqCmDNmCkpxhUfFUfkXJMI9K0GkTbs3BF_KKCW8v923ajT4a7jdM b692PhC9mEOXfBAQaZy8BTf5PJ1nWBHyvzCm5mYYdI0cSx_FwE_yzMXQ8nXK HrqcLGq1josMHHFuplAoxoTrZHSrCT2lfMRi4HweP.Ngln3xq2.rH_6MJd1S ejR_rzjc07H_kuAU6nwLQAxvUXab5EgJqyIypGyMPIzYJwAxUnLIQf8CTsH8 V3hC4JF8t42odVHxSuLvcA.GW.F8Tt243UDnl37Rs87luJek.bbcBq4BFkqv WGjl0dLAfsAAPr4KCd4jxSC2U_ZsjN9cD5PulzVTUQ2yBm.1gKCoZvuNaPwW JS6wqeN1nRj9d12RBANZlkbBsCMXZEb.g Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:04:33 PST UmVhZGluZyBvdGhlcnMgZXhwZXJpZW5jZXMgd2l0aCBib2R5IHBhbmVscyByZW1pbmRzIG1lIG9mIHByb2JsZW1zIEkgaGFkIHdpdGggZmVuZGVycy7CoCBUd28gb2YgdGhlIHNhbWUgZmVuZGVycyBJIHRvb2sgb2ZmIG15IHRyLTMgd2VyZW5lZWRpbmcgc2VyaW91cyBjaGFuZ2VzIGluIG9yZGVyIHRvIGdldCB0aGVtIHRvIGZpdCBiYWNrIG9uIHRoZSBjYXIgbGF0ZXIuwqAgT25lIHJlYXIgZmVuZGVyIG5lZWRlZCB0byBiZSBsZW5ndGhlbmVkIGFuIGluY2ggYW5kIGEgZnJvbnQgZmVuZGVyIG5lZWRlZCBhIHcBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reading others experiences with body panels reminds me of problems I had with fenders. Two of the same fenders I took off my tr-3 wereneeding serious changes in order to get them to fit back on the car later. One rear fender needed to be lengthened an inch and a front fender needed a wedge shape cut out to make it fit tight against he body. Amazing.............they must have changed shape while stored for a few months.LOL gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 28 21:22:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A44397E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:22:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8604385A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:15:26 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=YQGrUKQdc5QA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=gyIszlyzSK4A:10 a=F1fML1aMKBMiG38qUV4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:63138] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 71/FD-18789-D61E6B05; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:15:41 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 22:15:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The stressful or at least frustrating thing for me in fitting the body panels to my TR250 was having a panel that fit fine, then adding the rubber seal and having the panel not settle "home" by a good margin. Real trouble with the trunk lid seal, even tried a 2nd seal from a company who advertised theirs didn't have that problem, it still did, and the scuttle seal, tried a couple of those and the thing won't go anywhere near flat with either one. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 02:36:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6224343964 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:36:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8E4435A9 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:35:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.230] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.117] by tm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21105 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354181740; bh=V9TwEhX40+LiDugZkrSPT880Vh3wZXAHzBGzHLAjf/w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D7rio3FVZU25pmwkFQi+NdwSJEb3THC2akQOEqcVILveP6eJ0nOM/O6M6W6rB626eNmK41NIHSXTM9JjJxR+LALWrFJpdv63ZYpjdbwNGO4BrvL5R6vxOdUWtdmBeMBCL0RwtkcLOROk1w4SstqmnXWc6m1//YWrOJf9qeUV/0I= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cbHTkyZisLB+kmIbpED7EIs1M0eIru1qz0q0w7Lo5/MQhPBarwvXJHLLJq15x5h4VR6aA48A4tS3fv6cYeZNrjGZ0JtD8Fs4RVj59IWPdlgJvEk/+FlizTHQNuFo2L9yl5tc95azfRSgBTnybzFZ77xxVlfu77PhG40Du6BVtxU=; Received: from [90.199.100.181] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 GMT VGhlIHRoaW5nIGZvciBtZSBpcyB0aGUgcmVhbGlzYXRpb24gdGhhdCBtYW55IG9mIG15IGZvcm1lciBmcmllbmRzIGluIEVuZ2luZWVyaW5nIHdlcmUgbGl0dGxlIG1vcmUgdGhhbiBzYWRpc3RzLiBUaGV5IGNvbXBsZXRlbHkgb3Zlcmxvb2tlZCB0aGUgZmFjdCB0aGF0IG1hbnkgYW1vbmcgdXMgZG93biB0aGUgeWVhcnMgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHlvdXRoZnVsIGluIGhlYXJ0LCB0aG91Z2ggbXVjaCBsb25nZXIgaW4gdGhlIHRvb3RoLiBXYWtpbmcgZWFjaCBkYXkgYXMgSSBkbyB3aXRoIGFjaGluZyBqb2ludHMgYW4BMAEBAQE- References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:35:40 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The thing for me is the realisation that many of my former friends in Engineering were little more than sadists. They completely overlooked the fact that many among us down the years have been youthful in heart, though much longer in the tooth. Waking each day as I do with aching joints and perhaps a little too much 'circumferentially' - I especially curse all TR Spitfire, GT6, and certainly curse Little and large Healeys, Morris Garages variants and those things from Jaguar that look like a flying bedpan. It's not that I'm jealous but simply because whenever I have the opportunity to ride in or drive a sports car, it's raining and the hood is erected. It's bad enough getting in - but getting out is hell on earth. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 05:37:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757AF43937 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:37:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC554357D for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:37:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D5D4D380000D8 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moa002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 885D1E000086 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:37:35 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354192655; bh=Up5UKtwxxATEeEXdE+TfChV46TtLdfOuJLGq0fGCNFw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DIXnM5R+8kh0WN5K90wP+PIZGj74a6OeZKvzwU/m4+XoenNAtcFRwUHySE+64/vyY evTmuT0pjPkxVRZkW/Wce6f4dNTydGLyfvKnEghwLd+SMW0H3K39P36CdbJTfsQrON aYe1ynaHD35GFViF/PItGR7MvSyAuJ3S4g6LJ5lg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50b7570f1153 Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I fond it ironic, to say the least, that a country infamous for having rainy weather produced the most popular convertible sports cars in the world. With the most fiddly tops. Dave In a message dated 11/29/2012 3:35:58 AM Central Standard Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > It's not that I'm > jealous but simply because whenever I have the opportunity to ride in or > drive > a sports car, it's raining and the hood is erected. It's bad enough > getting in > - but getting out is hell on earth. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 06:09:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E7343952 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:09:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B7C435A4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:01:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so10219545ieb.14 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:01:42 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e1nfTmdJfW5cIaXNrVEo+mE1i1N9y/0UVvqE02UNEkQ=; b=fdOAp1SdM2li2cGjM8LCTqCNMRQfMPOq/cSuMLBd6h5cjXblrVFyjfExCnAHdPgxdw AE+PPVPGhkBKt3j7bSKqrmjHSUPgJGXl+T11UoC2RIKtoIgpwZpgm6YklWx5MPCYb1oH TQnzczzyAGT6mtCoO6siwuQGj5K84XBaAj6wAwDpbM8jKn/DXCIkHPZAy5xYfM5HLixo ytK10hGkprLejqfgJb95SoSAIyPsbCa8xJEiafkUSM88FYxhdUqh4Tpx5XkhM0qvcCNS CRtWlsiQqCeJKUBjbAv6fAH0ZKdvtumgGyTCFaHLiU99yUqUm0V/0NOOyU7RhoMbp9VW f1lg== Received: by 10.50.56.139 with SMTP id a11mr22353239igq.3.1354194101834; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex10sm1389286igc.15.2012.11.29.05.01.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:01:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:01:38 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/28/12 9:04 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Reading others experiences with body panels reminds me of problems I had with > fenders. Two of the same fenders I took off my tr-3 wereneeding serious > changes in order to get them to fit back on the car later. One rear fender > needed to be lengthened an inch and a front fender needed a wedge shape cut > out to make it fit tight against he body. > > Amazing.............they must > have changed shape while stored for a few months.LOL > Did you have the body off the frame? When I rebuilt my 3 I took all the removable panels off the body but left the body on the frame. Both floor boards and sills were replaced, one at a time, with the body on the frame, and the rear valance was replaced with a new one. All the body panels just bolted back on in place. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 06:22:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B7B4382E for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:22:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE71740ED8 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:19:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.101.111]) by p3plsmtpa06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id VRKX1k00B2QCWJm01RKYFC; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:19:33 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Greg Lemon'" , References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:19:38 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFPe3V3U8uQx/o/ocsKPABJZ67jEALO8KFbmOb5rwA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Aarrghhhh - how true ! Trunk lid now sits proud and I couldn't get the spare tire cover back on after fitting the new seal............................... -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Lemon Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:16 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph The stressful or at least frustrating thing for me in fitting the body panels to my TR250 was having a panel that fit fine, then adding the rubber seal and having the panel not settle "home" by a good margin. Real trouble with the trunk lid seal, even tried a 2nd seal from a company who advertised theirs didn't have that problem, it still did, and the scuttle seal, tried a couple of those and the thing won't go anywhere near flat with either one. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 06:39:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC93A43984 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:39:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD064357D for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:30:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so10277888ieb.14 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OxHFAppJJ/bWxRF6DoR7myOV7G49GqpdGCeGocaO2/s=; b=CUpWavsw0c/dSaSk+pLbGw16mFthDTtKlFirg4GLZ6qhQlHmIeo7HXZgypSqdaMNiX OOR/rrvYS5jCqNjwmrScpeSdgJmsES+IYxE1xhJl6+KG9AgvD2vozVoDRT+ssi5oGg3q T4rM8emYd6IbSV+14gcuZ46N1xUadf+rCZ6FJdY1OuJj0XMvWvaLdQfCH4Ai3dhmwXWU TcRSDYj/ItuvyUsu0pETcgfg9e79qCE1b73SJUUvt9qBy9QtOzGjRIrJafkKKWPaxGfl s+6TkQ2LM0tj+7CR9a6C0FOlCar7F+YyOmMtzmz5g+cVqjVd1YA6lvS3IqtAEVKOIXGv wq7g== Received: by 10.43.14.135 with SMTP id pq7mr20053428icb.8.1354195837322; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm7150881igb.12.2012.11.29.05.30.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:30:33 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1354181740.13508.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/29/12 2:35 AM, John Macartney wrote: > The thing for me is the realisation that many of my former friends in > Engineering were little more than sadists. They completely overlooked the fact > that many among us down the years have been youthful in heart, though much > longer in the tooth. Waking each day as I do with aching joints and perhaps a > little too much 'circumferentially' - I especially curse all TR Spitfire, GT6, > and certainly curse Little and large Healeys, Morris Garages variants and > those things from Jaguar that look like a flying bedpan. > It's not that I'm > jealous but simply because whenever I have the opportunity to ride in or drive > a sports car, it's raining and the hood is erected. It's bad enough getting in > - but getting out is hell on earth. > Sadists? I always thought the problem was that the folks who designed many of the cars were height challenged and designed cars that fit their short stature and short legs. The cars would have been different if Donald Healey and Colin Chapman were around 6 foot 2 or 4 and the average Brit male was at least 6 foot tall or taller. First time I sat in a BJ8 I was heartbroken to discover that my knee hit the bottom of the instrument panel before my foot got high enough to clear the clutch pedal unless I angled my leg sideways. I had thought a big Healey would be a grand third car until then. The only time I tried a GT6 I found my knees on either side of the steering wheel. I figure if I ever got one I would have to remove the front seat and sit on a cushion or something instead. They were not meant for people with long legs. I have just assumed that the fun of driving a British Roadster would be a proper inducement to keep the personal circumference small enough for easy entrance and exit. Though I have to admit getting out of a 3 with the hard top on is a tad less than graceful when you are on the tall side as I tend to back out of the car. "A Jag looks like a flying bed pan" That image would have never occurred to me. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 06:40:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C3439FE for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:40:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE864357D for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:33:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so13357118iaj.14 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:33:59 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b4Kj0i0Ait10A2Nxci8vk68klmwGi6ByD6nptKVsDUU=; b=cVGwXRyWcEXVtWiOIB2rnRJdp23+Xlu6/Plm294NioMSc/zBieWm2fmhNFAmHADxmx UsXvRdgkGwcr3itBzI6GqbZfnwd39s9cnwQJi2+BEI2R+/KhQSSOR5SBtpN7y8S9rSHq EOsQq7LMFNr/t0Es8svw6Vy1o6RNTfGIrKovm/XDFxgIoAKVXvAnmrcC8mvYMOi/P8Aa qSk74JNGKJgroF9FwqEIsGFeQSkY0FP6KHr3Du94ufzcD5r/neMppEU/kGXMyoQiuqkB Yonr/eNrSdJTqzRP3hQAVzOPMw279G9nf7bESOkZ0kpHFzBnO/xC+RLFSrkg0YmD8ZQu xq0A== Received: by 10.50.152.240 with SMTP id vb16mr23233691igb.45.1354196038997; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-153-251.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.153.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eo7sm1475241igc.12.2012.11.29.05.33.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:33:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:33:57 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/29/12 5:37 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > I fond it ironic, to say the least, that a country infamous for having > rainy weather produced the most popular convertible sports cars in the world. > With the most fiddly tops. > > And don't forget minimalist heaters. I guess that's why most of them were exported to the warmer U.S. States. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 07:09:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A36443560 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:09:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC1C40EDC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:03:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 37FAF380002EA; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (164.sub-70-193-2.myvzw.com [70.193.2.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AAD76E0000AE; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:03:35 -0500 (EST) References: <1354161873.39988.YahooMailNeo@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1354181740.13508.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:03:33 -0500 To: John Macartney x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354197816; bh=DC3RhvyVX0qkxCl5XAXd3/XpEtyHf1DZ/DdixVvM7E0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=sqLp+zQXBG7Bh3vQ9GrplwB9w6mvHdKeNIgDQdbZRodXQCcAwRbQfuXKIT2r05O1F 4DVQlfeXb/mRovw0FAkLO5mL1fsVntr8JwaMLUyXCFDdHXc9hLOlAt0LJhHsYMCLSa UnYDn46RuG6LWDaWYJHsaXhNldba6R3RZel7KKkE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290150b76b36015c Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The prototypical post war British sports car must have been designed for former RAF fighter pilots - smallish, wiry, rugged survivors accustomed to being in cramped uncomfortable places and just glad to be alive and on the ground. For decades I thought I wanted an E-type. A recent drive in a 1970 E-type convertible has cured me forever. My eyes, which already dry out easier than they used to, are just about even with the top of the windscreen, and my size 11d foot can't hit the go pedal without also brushing the stop pedal. I still think it has a beautiful shape, but the bedpan analogy fits when ingress and egress is attempted. Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:35 AM, John Macartney wrote: > The thing for me is the realisation that many of my former friends in > Engineering were little more than sadists. They completely overlooked the fact > that many among us down the years have been youthful in heart, though much > longer in the tooth. Waking each day as I do with aching joints and perhaps a > little too much 'circumferentially' - I especially curse all TR Spitfire, GT6, > and certainly curse Little and large Healeys, Morris Garages variants and > those things from Jaguar that look like a flying bedpan. > It's not that I'm > jealous but simply because whenever I have the opportunity to ride in or drive > a sports car, it's raining and the hood is erected. It's bad enough getting in > - but getting out is hell on earth. > > Jonmac > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 07:40:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9AC4382A for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:40:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA2240ECB for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:35:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VQnS1k00D1YDfWL55SbKe0; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:35:19 +0000 Received: from Desktop ([76.100.209.245]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VSbK1k00T5JDEd03gSbKQB; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:35:19 +0000 From: "Craig" To: "'Frank Fisher'" , "'Randall'" , , "'Triumphs'" References: <001901cdccff$464f2090$d2ed61b0$@verizon.net> <99.73.21565.2BD46B05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <1354125452.76908.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:35:16 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3Nkw8MhJJ17/5uQHO+irtRHIJgJQAq3chQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1354199719; bh=4lLRK+o5HWfucPyHW/5dvavQGSCVErTepqqoU5jFFg8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=JHld0dmpwzHt+/zbIaTGgOPeX9375/t4J67bnrTu7dvOBEVEXkKA2u9sNt6uJjFe3 JwCMk+3N9OtlT0AG1amhEX17KQQpQof9gGm9X6Jx8AEg/bHU3ACn9MtWb74Jg5Vz4k ofqwWnBpHRA2j74glMv7q2QyqZxVRO9kgIZO3e13UPJ6kFVGn0r1v5kDXoH7IFy8tl RLCPWWH9+nEqrROaAgIqawr/2B2I43GRHLkkWm3PwUdbr95SIEkctbVPF3Ce2mLbzH cMVnSu8cTmgEPC4QGUb/z62aPcG/tgMdPm/uYxs6P8KoC1wcsfH4ewGULen5SqXNvb kywA4xVks3bnA== Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wow...I never saw that coming Thanks Frank Craig -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:58 PM To: Randall; cfmtr3a@verizon.net; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK i did not look too close. but remember British headlights dip to the left, while USA headlights dip to the right. Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK > Was looking for a switch and came across this online > electrical catalog at > http://content.yudu.com/Aydsc/HoldenVintageClassic/resources/1.htm Watch out for shipping, though. It can easily cost more than the part and I have even had a customs broker wanting more after the fact. (ISTR that order was from Rimmers though, not Holden.) -- Randall Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wensley_tr@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 07:41:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8FE4398F for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:41:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A3940ECB for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:36:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VRZW1k0021ei1Bg54Sd4yq; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:37:04 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VSd41k00c2xV5no3kSd4Jk; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:37:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:37:04 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: triumph list s=q20121106; t=1354199824; bh=F+sD0yUf6m4JcXqgJ9P11SEBiU0lhVcbjQdp1+WcO8w=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Dy7mRG6kWvuqLxWMzm+rL5yJ40gWuL37+qxScb9YlfSTkeaonrY4qChd8S6Cq6GnE lv8nGIemo5LAm4Pmur+hIwmVGwQWBpqz/+rDIHa2TytinOg6Y5sdQR7qU1Vrj+Vfv+ /YDKLnKtrkp08feQYAWK1qFB68sWgpHr92it/PvUMzHsIjbbUrq6Rc0RSuxvkzf4bv FqtXTQHj1gDdEViDVw0r8HjviuBuC5htSSqdy5hO/rKJ+/N4jcgcclUYSmlfnBq+ZF vEw+Ux3iyJqlwGsmdpm2Qe0XLlxLUQjs7I15D6Txo2ZYv55sR1pTWGGiyrIUzAu67r p1EiSs/M4PDWw== Subject: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Manifolds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Will a '76 TR6 exhaust manifold fit an early (TR250) cylinder head? Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:12:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D19437DC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:12:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from relay4.bu.edu (relay4.bu.edu [128.197.27.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F6C437D7 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:10:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from BUSDM801RL ([155.41.214.97]) by relay4.bu.edu (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qATF9Rq6007388 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:09:27 -0500 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:09:27 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac3OQ4Nn3Rkkt6eUQ+WoX7QyXbYlAw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] height challenge(d) and TRs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At barely 5 feet tall, I can truly say that the cars are not made for those of us who are normal height. I use a small booster cushion on the seat and have had the brake and clutch pedals bent forward a bit (Triumph dealer in '71) used a torch to heat the pedal but forgot to have the brake light switch removed first. Doh!) I actually raised the seat of my '58 TR3 with 2x4s (probably not the safest thing to do) but did not change the pedals. The seat was very close to the steering wheel. Mechanics and vehicle inspectors cursed me. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:16:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38E943937 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:16:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4B0437DB for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:15:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VSxY1k0040cQ2SLACTFygv; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:15:58 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VTFy1k00D2xZMJ48WTFyiR; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:15:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:15:58 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Dave1massey@cs.com s=q20121106; t=1354202158; bh=9ybnKautTX1OK3HDPkf3TTtNuL4D5ZFyJmGhcB6yu+c=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BJ9n9gYA8NaTcgt//WSt87wos9rXb016YAkBHN9NgXsGjCRAXcyRWu6B9Pi/iPUa0 gjlaZEh65mKTpxCt9wIeSFztwfwpT5u7Awm+sb437BOF7jiVXhufu6kCw0bG9icGZ+ 8WQmELDBcEklSkJetRBwj3yg/uZP8+iiK5VJFai5fqgI8knpDxbqp15Zmjefeql8h6 suJ3zZuKzKcKFe1N6/fYuy8ZgLFIndxRecf1Ghuv+1oOUZQFGAS5bkdhnW8EbUdHnR 19kq7KPFDJDDNAr6BJzEtzu7GWEyUtnZT+0yjgJ2J24Eprf5jLU0WZm7c4IPs3Wtdo KkQPl8Mcl+jPA== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dick O'Kane beat you to this observation. He paired it with the fact that the epitome of desigen in sunny Italy was the coupe. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:37:35 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph > I fond it ironic, to say the least, that a country infamous for having > rainy weather produced the most popular convertible sports cars in the > world. > With the most fiddly tops. > > Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:28:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CEB43805 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:28:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE10437E1 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:21:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170170pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ME900CA89BBV9D5@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:21:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from 131.247.90.134 ([131.247.90.134]) by vznit170170 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:21:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:21:11 -0600 (CST) From: Carl TR To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Holden Vintage in UK Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net JFYI - Much like other resource materials, I think the catalog and TR section will be useful when I am trying to find something or see what that particular piece looks like/installs, etc. I just found the site very well put together and user friendly as well as informative. I realize shipping may be an issue for many of the parts offered by them and others in GB. C On 11/28/12, Randall wrote: > Was looking for a switch and came across this online > electrical catalog at > http://content.yudu.com/Aydsc/HoldenVintageClassic/resources/1.htm Watch out for shipping, though. It can easily cost more than the part and I have even had a customs broker wanting more after the fact. (ISTR that order was from Rimmers though, not Holden.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:29:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CD943A6D for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:29:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8248B43927 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:28:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EC57E1C000072; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mhb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.187.193]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6C223E000085; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:28:23 -0500 (EST) References: <50B76445.3080108@gmail.com> To: tjwakeman@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 149.10.144.120 by webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:28:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:28:23 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354202903; bh=ILVtsSBYfd4yu3SwZI4KbVy/Obemry23ZTXrjSOq1ms=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z05P0Z2dbDGNdIyVnsFmh3wTQPDGTxDVawgxkIL2I/Yo8XLBCSk6cNc5p+77fFCu2 58QmtLSc7quL9D/u9OPrBNauxqSZa6J0cc4QcxKmeCCEgAvoXKSjGxsQNyKwUQPdGQ JdzRy+SechksuQnDhP4TlXU0QRHCN6j3d3ML7SJU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50b77f17037f Subject: Re: [TR] stressful things in triumph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know what the sales percentages were, but New York and New England also saw an awful lot of British cars. Up here, we're not exactly known for our palm trees or cactus! ;) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: TeriAnn J. Wakeman On 11/29/12 5:37 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: > I fond it ironic, to say the least, that a country infamous for having > rainy weather produced the most popular convertible sports cars in the world. > With the most fiddly tops. > > And don't forget minimalist heaters. I guess that's why most of them were exported to the warmer U.S. States. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 08:57:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BFB43913 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:57:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D256437DC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:52:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so11860041lah.14 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aCmCx8dEPScPz24D1TaOZ2AYJUNcIMTw7vXGvqLisFY=; b=kw11Dh3c+V7OjxtSPsVz0tKPrmEAxqDLLZICniMWRtNW5PT8V5KqoESASGT6b9rY2R yDVOaJz+u/o8xL7Hv1gaBaVz938OvxVxQk6aBXKrP6hbKyG6P95jktSe0B6VfZtCZxvI dq4spNpuhgPrjRsnfkzQOV+hTc0hoh2PKxnxgROq+c/4sG0NTZ7YecFg9Ue00YQ5dPLn FGGLIcQB4/qeMGkmN+4VNej5D3H+96wqr34ShnioCTvZBDGDKpnFcnN2BCiGK9xiF+jB 5yOPlPc96Rz3UEFfoEF6zljq8kwBJK8EyLZPvH/SDfxcotQe7Fdic/UndOvsgr2bQ8NM WTRQ== Received: by 10.112.43.161 with SMTP id x1mr3804989lbl.32.1354204335159; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) References: <00c901cdce43$862980d0$927c8270$@bu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:52:15 -0800 From: Don Hiscock To: "Ron L'Herault" Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] height challenge(d) and TRs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At six foot six, I gotta agree with you about TRs and height, Ron. It only took moving my TR3B seat back an inch or so to give me enough legroom to stretch out straight! Here's the modification underway by John Mangles here in St Louis at All British Car Repair: http://www.smugmug.com/photos/1143349206_tshwV-L.jpg Don On 11/29/12, Ron L'Herault wrote: > At barely 5 feet tall, I can truly say that the cars are not made for > those > of us who are normal height. I use a small booster cushion on the seat > and > have had the brake and clutch pedals bent forward a bit (Triumph dealer in > '71) used a torch to heat the pedal but forgot to have the brake light > switch removed first. Doh!) I actually raised the seat of my '58 TR3 > with 2x4s (probably not the safest thing to do) but did not change the > pedals. The seat was very close to the steering wheel. Mechanics and > vehicle inspectors cursed me. > > Ron L > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 09:44:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E81043952 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:44:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B701F40EC4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:36:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121129163650.ZLZC29577.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:36:50 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id VUcq1k0084qRjhw01UcqRn; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:36:50 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zRjeNbbp_cUA:10 a=GZgYCfmx3JSesG2jUaUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=YKgbXpjop_YHLHGnvAwA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=v60wHomnRs5hItxT:21 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:37:08 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3OT8XpvF+mDjYxQiati8yMvcATuw== Subject: [TR] Grill badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Since offering to do another production run, I have had very few people interested in these things. Therefore I will not be able to do another production run. Perhaps in the future this will come up again and I will receive enough interest at that time. Cheers, Joe ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 10:46:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0C34391F for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:46:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E8D437EC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:46:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VSth1k0020EPchoAAVmPsr; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:46:23 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VVmN1k01J2yr1eL8MVmNoR; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:46:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Joe Curry s=q20121106; t=1354211183; bh=lWxQDos6oLFKtaf2Is2EV8AbLlOMqgPkztdqKG26a6A=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rQgnjan71g7mlP2Wxdu0vfTmn4n/AgJuIpUDlUMdTVWgK8tzluvZA2KIz8kWtzDB+ xvD7fxPWczZ/P5+UV8rEL18fnrshIuy1L1KgfVhH3/hyFVpb7dsdd5mtNXU/PzFj72 XVU7kngPS8uLNUQxB2pDGVZdAejGW0rlu5Fl1uKhG/jADqQvHUbHH5/SxgnvrfHIpW CpdbP2rBh9tngvFEo0zwQeTDBd88xiKpbDaKJVdfvgcp0LvB43uF7gagSfqGi/3lx9 jlbOAgSuZGv/ZY3LJ6SfWpt047x+lWpE1YnWZfoXHW/0TTRbemww38Iesk0e2SPz49 LDnWHx/Jbd9kw== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Grill badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For those interested, I think I have one extra triumphs@autox.team.net grill badge. I had ordered one, and then I bought a car that already had one. Send me a private Email if you are interested. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Curry" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:37:08 AM > Subject: [TR] Grill badges > Since offering to do another production run, I have had very few > people > interested in these things. Therefore I will not be able to do another > production run. Perhaps in the future this will come up again and I > will > receive enough interest at that time. > > > > Cheers, > > Joe > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 12:01:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51B04397E for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:01:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DF889437FF for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:59:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28427 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2012 18:59:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.104.29) by smtpout07.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.230) with ESMTP; 29 Nov 2012 18:59:15 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , "'triumph list'" References: <1385536541.785244.1354199824319.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:59:18 -0500 Thread-Index: AQI4CwskT4zEPE/w2PkKO3Om7rsRaZcssRQA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Manifolds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Possibly. But not one with the closely cast inlet ports. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fogbro1@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:37 AM To: triumph list Subject: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Manifolds List, Will a '76 TR6 exhaust manifold fit an early (TR250) cylinder head? Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 15:56:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74443999 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:56:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A106B43855 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:56:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 22:56:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.196] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 22:56:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2012 22:56:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354229791; bh=zU2Lkuk1l4z0ykciy/tfiDfYeujYMsAn1/wGUZHzUxc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=aJc9cvgyhxdEJB/IWNTW2Dw4dVY21iYFIp7mFJRaXO/ebRPadg9WU7vACl80luSAEm8PTj0QFpTQgJDSdjkxkt9AOHlI3AmciBCNh6gfP5GvoazrvLPJxkluxSLR+o8cy3JUvPg+rKeXzJ/XHjZSxdk9FJMXZKi5aRX72WZO660= NyCOf48CI9eONo9VmIu3ES4Klkzn55vLGEusC3hO0UB4eIyD8oVKguypvfRs R6lysNt2wkUAqRTyRxXKh_1rsKUEGlPWmsdjQ1I8Tf3XeJ__06n0WnlQHnEq 4gKO09ge6sEPdUlcA.5jJA138JJdVMeCk9CeZoC3AQzf0XQ5LyiL0xnT8MRQ Xr2w2EPzLgiiNRkryd2cAF3HRYU5n6NfLx2uZ89F.iEjrjnLlSq4XcX6SGWi cTdy6o64.od81M1vFifG3cjOCOmokxQxmHfY1iYUmjKu.vpzX6ibIXtgoDYP uyPrIdtjgmdd7pU6lSyOz9AH.XInDkZ_WpV3nwBvioh_aUD.ABGFrL3wf60q WIKdBf2hVIiTQl5Dtb93DeL6vud4qT9YwaCfdrcUV0usxh1f1xuvFZIF7iWT Uk_iTlC0Xy5AE7NDogYaFoG4knMCStZLw.JR_EavDB_Y.ba64qa_bQhO5.wp _Dle8Mr4hYriLkmPxqywIk6Fq_kaxdYITZNqZVPXwpb6DbeoVrik- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 14:56:31 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:56:00 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3OhLJEFR8KWu2qTXeHsqJbQ72WLQ== Subject: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thinking on this current project that I am going to paint the beading between the wings and the tub, saw a TR2 at VTR and it looked good. ISTR that TR2's & early 3's used a black rubber bead in this place. Has anyone used any alternate materials in this application? I am thinking there might be something that would have a more of a flat profile than the rounded beading that is usually seen. Many thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 16:23:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B96A438AF for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:23:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC99C40EC0 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:15:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host.home ([unknown] [96.238.190.118]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0ME90027NVAOZW60@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:16:01 -0600 (CST) From: Dean Tetterton Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:16:00 -0500 References: <1385536541.785244.1354199824319.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: fogbro1@comcast.net Cc: triumph list Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Manifolds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I installed one on my 69 TR6 with no problem. The intake ports are different not the exhaust. Dean Tetterton On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:37 AM, fogbro1@comcast.net wrote: > List, > > > > Will a '76 TR6 exhaust manifold fit an early (TR250) cylinder head? > > > > Ed Woods > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 16:39:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFDD43975 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:39:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B7E40ED6 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:33:34 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YIwZNc6HnmUA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=ne_7L7x0AAAA:20 a=x79XAGTORVJkK-GNt1gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=qshDsIoZH2UA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:46915] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 96/A5-00785-9D0F7B05; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:33:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:33:45 -0500 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Wbeech Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Wbeech wrote: > Thinking on this current project that I am going to paint the beading > between the wings and the tub, saw a TR2 at VTR and it looked good. ISTR > that TR2's & early 3's used a black rubber bead in this place. It was only TR2, and the bead was normally colored to match the trim. My SPC lists black, Olive Yellow, Green, Red, Geranium and White. > Has anyone used any alternate materials in this application? I am thinking > there might be something that would have a more of a flat profile than the > rounded beading that is usually seen. The original TR2 bead did have a head that was rather wider and flatter than the later chrome beads. There is a photo of the profile at http://goo.gl/7Y8b2 (courtesy of Nick Morgan). According to a long-ago list post by TR Householder, Moss sells (or at least sold) a fender welting for MGA that is a good match (after you paint it). Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 16:40:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F024C439DC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1742040ED6 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:33:44 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YIwZNc6HnmUA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=ne_7L7x0AAAA:20 a=x79XAGTORVJkK-GNt1gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=qshDsIoZH2UA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:46920] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3E/75-21565-3E0F7B05; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:33:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:33:55 -0500 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Wbeech Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Wbeech wrote: > Thinking on this current project that I am going to paint the beading > between the wings and the tub, saw a TR2 at VTR and it looked good. ISTR > that TR2's & early 3's used a black rubber bead in this place. It was only TR2, and the bead was normally colored to match the trim. My SPC lists black, Olive Yellow, Green, Red, Geranium and White. > Has anyone used any alternate materials in this application? I am thinking > there might be something that would have a more of a flat profile than the > rounded beading that is usually seen. The original TR2 bead did have a head that was rather wider and flatter than the later chrome beads. There is a photo of the profile at http://goo.gl/7Y8b2 (courtesy of Nick Morgan). According to a long-ago list post by TR Householder, Moss sells (or at least sold) a fender welting for MGA that is a good match (after you paint it). Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 19:02:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D1843838 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:02:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260F4357D for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:02:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS3 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:02:22 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Bill Wellbaum'" , References: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:02:18 -0800 Thread-Index: AQJnV6x7OVr4E+DN9/B4dLz9I19POJbOjdbg Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[BC7807F0:01CDCE9E] Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll pay for my folks on Sunday. Fuckin' deadbeats....... Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 From: Bill Wellbaum [mailto:wcwellbaum@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:08 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jagmog@hotmail.com Subject: Those who haven't paid up: Adashek Berent Bowen Carleton Erwin Guzman Hulshouser Stan Jones Neill Newbold Ogle Payne (senior) Scearce Spencer Stroncek Zehnder Goodman I don't expect Hulshouser, Jones, Scearce, or Spencer to stay on. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 19:13:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D70B4391F for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:13:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74F440ECC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:09:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAU29ndL023074 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:49 -0500 Received: from core-meb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-meb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.46.133]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 08D8BE000086 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:49 -0500 (EST) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:47 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354241389; bh=Pt0hY1GhX0AeqEeN9sBszXA6QO0VTJdIHmvVTC5bJJM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wOA5kQ1sjyVJh1YKssi25erlJobOCTqQ50KpZVtY9Rrqq5QFALXOBmOqvitZP8Lmk wtk2CcCMi86VHcryDiAVofrNJb4PIN29CLdV2jhB5BgrkZ0HrN5EHqybYMJbftftKY gkojjKEq9InPYlbmbTEkSevi70x4FRHWYfPW3BAo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c50b8156d4bf3 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It was only TR2, and the bead was normally colored to match the trim. My SPC lists black, Olive Yellow, Green, Red, Geranium and White. The beading on all TR2s were painted body colors and the colors listed above were the body colors available. All of the 2s that I am familiar with had the beading sourced from an English company named "Woolies" with an Internet address of _www.woolies-trim.co.uk_ (http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk) In late 2000 I ordered 7 meters of part number 274-WH from Woolies. The shipping was more than the beading but the total cost for the seven meters was about $20 (in year 2000). As I remember the only colors was white and black and I was told that if the body is to be a light color then order white and if dark order black. The beading on my TR2 was painted off the car and now some 12 years and 32,000 miles later not a hint of any peeling or dings. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 19:14:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DA5439A4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:14:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A0B437E4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:10:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS10 ([65.54.190.200]) by bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:10:27 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Bill Wellbaum'" , References: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:10:22 -0800 Thread-Index: AQJnV6x7OVr4E+DN9/B4dLz9I19POAK3ScaflrjVVrA= Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[DDAA4D60:01CDCE9F] Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net To all that received this, my apologies for the language- apparently we had a snafu on our "autopopulate" the email recipients. My parents aren't really deadbeats, it was intended as an inside joke. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jonas Payne Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:02 PM To: 'Bill Wellbaum'; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: I'll pay for my folks on Sunday. Fuckin' deadbeats....... Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 From: Bill Wellbaum [mailto:wcwellbaum@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:08 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jagmog@hotmail.com Subject: Those who haven't paid up: Adashek Berent Bowen Carleton Erwin Guzman Hulshouser Stan Jones Neill Newbold Ogle Payne (senior) Scearce Spencer Stroncek Zehnder Goodman I don't expect Hulshouser, Jones, Scearce, or Spencer to stay on. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 20:00:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49B943855 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:00:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF509437E7 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:55:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 02:55:12 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.44] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 02:55:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 02:55:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354244112; bh=fk5RhnKMh6tP9TiBut8jYz8+aDPM0h31paorFrRzgXw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=hk00EXC2pSTHMa2aeW7+RIreWd1syPm+1JIhU53zk0tM+8Kc6rJ16+5SAAUwt+6winmFvOoQW9ZyQw2wPnz3pylf0QkGL4fhyBXnRw1g6J9hBJ/Mi/WKMH43o1a6qO1HhqFsGGZ4t4HAxB+pKYgW/TwS/3r5CCkAPYZoFtTrcT4= RfQqgaYJ8nfOZGYRbTq5rseru5FjVaQcvNt.aRYi6LYVut3TU1Opt7i2DEAB 87F7AvC_Of7qDWccE5HaFPLuK_7o48bDmtK9hD7ih0YEceP27B3UErbZeJ5q m___KhHquE0qHKy.cR4pSpTcCxCQQT4qdhCmKy.3J0K0TYllreDFlqD_tJ52 Jp2M_TdxZBhA.n61DxvCyT5CpMkmWN3vsjG38KpVVo2hyt_bG18inTI4rLRO oiHfQE5t1lC4uru33YNQ_Cp1hyyawYRwr_sMu0cQH9m1RG85bO6j8wY2Erxy uR3Bi7RMiqATeavjEx4KV7RLV56pjVUbJ11m0tM96tDUx3l_bt4hWeAVtLDg pPzf6ilOpybEgEhn_Vym4Xf3vn0bcRcdnL0w7D9VzBBw7h9SoLuIVqz1.rtq 5.cx1lv9BJwf7OMeJ5eHrveKSoP4X8kr2FchhLGdT0VzqwMUvZ_eVjR5z1Ds fA85KixLRp0JmWwSa_jxhJFOrRA-- Received: from [10.114.16.211] (wbeech@166.137.120.18 with plain) by smtp112.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 18:55:12 -0800 PST References: From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:55:08 -0600 To: Jonas Payne Cc: Bill Wellbaum , "" Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Paid for what? Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: I'll pay for my folks on Sunday. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 From: Bill Wellbaum [mailto:wcwellbaum@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:08 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; jagmog@hotmail.com Subject: Those who haven't paid up: Adashek Berent Bowen Carleton Erwin Guzman Hulshouser Stan Jones Neill Newbold Ogle Payne (senior) Scearce Spencer Stroncek Zehnder Goodman I don't expect Hulshouser, Jones, Scearce, or Spencer to stay on. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 20:05:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DF443938 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:05:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.185]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DED5437EA for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:05:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:05:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.163] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:05:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp220.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:05:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354244713; bh=9VKnRRBjczVt+S/9EUCDddV1DFieInoUxIjQ3koo93c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=vxgx5TqMbmFYANqYnkkMf7WK26Lx6ENfLkjCAkNZmzCmCh5rM9BjxvuxvwtO9jAC4rzuOxKA/DPU/u3/aIIMI+8C14kvKdsnP3sscsd6u5aADLZItYTGCXUoaSLIO5mzPHtjv/vSG6xYv4I12uFl+Xj9NnTR2LthP5g0CaO56mk= hebdy3iW.PaMC7PchKmUFAN8_jrjpYo949lKLJxwI23g_JCiVEjNhxLbtI2L Dc9MUIAB20WWJ2CAN.XdDdpeKRAejXe_au1h3koam5ohuShM_z6kuEtwLZqc LTGUixY3i1jfkyznSmdjVRUUK_cullTXitRsYr5h9bBjhDCKUdLY_5T5VBtJ NBN_g7a3Eq02wNg1011ddyfvZakg4YKaRgXPV1R0X7uvdp_WoKAfMTHTaJnI ed00lLqbRziUX_eM9QZ3lcRpGrkkbAbS7uzkoib7JpvVtgkG8ODhTL7pY4TD 6ty.NB2rZy6z74Eo8sREGx41t2cFr7nK.TtHHzsXE.wjcNzgWCYkmYbA5UAy cUbFIueBKO1QIYO8Ky6Jx3_mXqMOFcYbVJE46MpLnm6lCwfUasesAw0uQ3f8 _0LPfVv7mZ_msZsVupRHntdtQ9hknMA1e8utWffHIYgR3zJ9kLcG.MvubCZ2 lhbnfUBpUp0usUr9yAadOFWRRkF44cw5EmzvawYcIhCIObKldRHIMpVGC_m5 VsKDimnvj1iRjtR3gx0Lwrd6ljGwN Received: from [10.114.16.211] (wbeech@166.137.120.18 with plain) by smtp220.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 19:05:13 -0800 PST References: <1cd1b.38fb9342.3de96f6b@aol.com> From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:56:31 -0600 To: "Loumetelko@aol.com" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is this the same trim that Moss sells? They list it as gray. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Loumetelko@aol.com wrote: It was only TR2, and the bead was normally colored to match the trim. My SPC lists black, Olive Yellow, Green, Red, Geranium and White. The beading on all TR2s were painted body colors and the colors listed above were the body colors available. All of the 2s that I am familiar with had the beading sourced from an English company named "Woolies" with an Internet address of _www.woolies-trim.co.uk_ (http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk) In late 2000 I ordered 7 meters of part number 274-WH from Woolies. The shipping was more than the beading but the total cost for the seven meters was about $20 (in year 2000). As I remember the only colors was white and black and I was told that if the body is to be a light color then order white and if dark order black. The beading on my TR2 was painted off the car and now some 12 years and 32,000 miles later not a hint of any peeling or dings. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 20:15:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5440943876 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:15:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5328540EC0 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:09:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A831A136B for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:10:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:10:44 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "" References: <41B60090-B77C-4D74-BD83-1F28DA42DC3D@flash.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net WBEECH wrote: > Paid for what? > > I imagine he's talking about the $500 a plate Team.Net holiday dinner this saturday at my house ;-) mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 20:45:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5043947 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:45:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D3E437E7 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:38:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:38:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.38] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:38:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 03:38:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354246723; bh=+fTz/Zl2YEx6qQLtUiAw/v9ZweyxELXfqwPQRrHH3d0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=j1fi0m9B3MDoAvGRjtXU342taCKCiiHiUl5fAN2UdIJBqQdJFUxSxfDOzWNxGnrcW35rkCcLA45eDNXe4TU0FmWIp5AW6Tcr9tZx8fyxiqubVDpEt+9u9EDkBlwW/xk3QA3jFFsofB+E7/oWO1XMosX/X28670t8XjGqpAq0/1M= M_X7R5Pxmdj7Q7N6PAXe.gVjmyu5jWfs7KKKxGU5sFrWmcJOVVzdLPch1nfP dymkGJGzn18DoAi9Xlx9PJeyiIHlqJsNjA6TrTCL1A62HZ2uPNkND3lLcGue 68ZkwBsfMAqFZwTm8Wg3I4FL887NfJiz16DI_o_6VLUPg1D3Lb4csKdbMgsB UYaXFAkKmlE6ZkJYGCdBEW18jT4iGXVuJ4L0ko34YEIt08z0RtEn9oQjxzkc MMpYLTB5IM6o.4nBD9AMHbuHPWBSX512iaGctot3FPbojmZGNu0JiBU5NQfM XZuPRieE3V67AuzzFaHR5_MlExo6gBq1e0NwWa9vJJwLlgoOPTM9QJSEY9lw uE3bH5nHsJZYLwIwIOv4WA0GpG0kGMVJ7rP4n7ezlaR9q2MiFIbauNm8qSTP zBFgrtzhADLU5w3m9r32Qa3xMBZMwrTfiq_NKSIuqwRek1k5qipo5j7g8.QK pvfYehK9mBTPwpzn4 Received: from [10.114.16.211] (wbeech@166.137.120.18 with plain) by smtp106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 19:38:43 -0800 PST References: <41B60090-B77C-4D74-BD83-1F28DA42DC3D@flash.net> <50B823B4.2050703@bradakis.com> From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:38:40 -0600 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rubber chicken? I'm there!! Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: WBEECH wrote: > Paid for what? I imagine he's talking about the $500 a plate Team.Net holiday dinner this saturday at my house ;-) mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 20:47:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58213439BA for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:47:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6098437EA for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:46:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961A9A1388 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:47:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:47:20 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: "" References: <41B60090-B77C-4D74-BD83-1F28DA42DC3D@flash.net> <50B823B4.2050703@bradakis.com> <3532CA0A-324E-4D8C-A0B1-8A4D709B64A9@flash.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net WBEECH wrote: > Rubber chicken? I'm there!! > > Obviously you've never had a chance to partake of my cooking. It would be the best rubber chicken you've ever eaten! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 21:16:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906A6437F2 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:16:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C4140EC4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:09:33 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=vYwVtY0-BGAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YIwZNc6HnmUA:10 a=ZW8kzQ_uvAgOdCu79hcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4E/40-21565-68138B05; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:09:43 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 20:09:55 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3OoGzbBcP8eEIXTj2rcTo+jPVfBwAD/8tg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The beading on all TR2s were painted body colors Sorry, I meant to say body color. Thanks for pointing out the brain fart, Lou. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 21:54:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D7043804 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:54:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A85435A4 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:53:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 04:54:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.131] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 04:54:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 04:54:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354251245; bh=Obg9vWRzgB7051PzyHPPR49+jYNx4bjHz7GsfZjXB5Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=mdSCgtTQ/ztJbnxvd1mseji9Nw5YiITfn3NWCPy4ZWHZdBCvNeiM0iLpvriQ5k/vQV18BrkHMujCxUeIbPzIwlniuFjGT7PIzkErfEZSS4PhB7zAklb9Faczj6ITFq1r84LWL8eaUPPWxXip+yhGdzaKBN6jTfNjgn5bT35/oFA= Tq2K_yN0Mx5.zltewXjkdNyV5WevkjvMLj5qbG37UPg4LR235MCZhgOy6Qxk o_M.BSQKgJ5EJtj6YMDxNqEXMGOAVj_YgVfNNuE_ukhRsiC0u16dwl26CDo4 lmj4dtdyGANR8SFZBNu7ymWzqUqUrKMd2Imttk0URd6UlGleHjz2VUK1gFDH KaZzl3BhJ9BkUkLFrl82SCZ1rhBu59UWrHcPYdhoFNWbWiHKXY.EtGRlS0nm 89GZ4a8oMkEOMAXfjVlZf77Z1Lfs7I39QGPuY_L7Ko3gFyxhFxGBJ5PSVkUb w5s_jlsPwdcNF4xbdW9sQq4rI0.DpNy7l0sv3bQTpTk.ADGpLrNjncS.p25z mWTId9iSHph5QxuUpEIUk71DZ0hegKM2Cv1ICR3RrYobzKYqe10TRoooWjDu hyulVkAqNRS04d_44kKOkds7hD4LNRYiE0GAexg5_0tvm.atgDjc9H_I4aKX lX19ojjIb7B8- Received: from [192.168.1.103] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp218.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2012 20:54:05 -0800 PST References: <41B60090-B77C-4D74-BD83-1F28DA42DC3D@flash.net> <50B823B4.2050703@bradakis.com> <3532CA0A-324E-4D8C-A0B1-8A4D709B64A9@flash.net> <50B82C48.6040803@bradakis.com> From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:54:04 -0600 To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll have to pass, but thanks for the reminder to put a little something into the Team.Net stocking this month. Thanks for everything you do for us, Bill Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: WBEECH wrote: > Rubber chicken? I'm there!! Obviously you've never had a chance to partake of my cooking. It would be the best rubber chicken you've ever eaten! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 29 22:34:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200D8437FE for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:34:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E16D437E0 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:32:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B3A1388 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:33:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:33:26 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Triumphs References: <41B60090-B77C-4D74-BD83-1F28DA42DC3D@flash.net> <50B823B4.2050703@bradakis.com> <3532CA0A-324E-4D8C-A0B1-8A4D709B64A9@flash.net> <50B82C48.6040803@bradakis.com> <5E86B7C6-10DF-4900-BDBA-4A3FEFCD0121@flash.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Those who haven't paid up: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net WBEECH wrote: > I'll have to pass, but thanks for the reminder to put a little something into the Team.Net stocking this month. > Thanks! A bit short of the $500 needed for the rubber chicken, but I'll let you slide this time ;-) mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 05:48:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA25437F3 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:48:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A63C437DF for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:41:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAUCfUCI026132 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:41:30 -0500 Received: from core-moe004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.77]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1C480E000082 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:41:30 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:41:29 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354279290; bh=k/wRxdaNb2xfyTZtgIY67xxc1uR+pBP0r4oXaNUvsP0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZzHn0zpKZMT2ZoW0mKYgcSltegyLQ+lMR2ag0ZK0DlmmeLY6rqzllA34BilgT/7iD VFb9x2P8JdQVwEe1SuqLKfwMfJlw37ojO/HEA0VmSRQi03hVBEl6QMG4BdSnPQSOjw faXplbDb1Z7+sPkf3Y8uJuUVUJtJxNqyXOo3HrR4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a50b8a97a62e9 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Exhaust Manifolds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure but I believe so. The exhaust ports did not move between the early and late TR6, it's likely that they didn't change between the TR250 and early TR6. Hold a gasket up to the manifold and the head and see how the ports line up. Dave In a message dated 11/29/2012 8:41:33 AM Central Standard Time, fogbro1@comcast.net writes: > Will a '76 TR6 exhaust manifold fit an early (TR250) cylinder head? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 08:41:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D3B43814 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:41:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B1C43564 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 08:40:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7A5EE38000213; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mhb001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.187.193]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5499CE000094; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:40:41 -0500 (EST) References: <4E.40.21565.68138B05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 149.10.144.120 by webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:40:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:40:41 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1354290041; bh=45t3dyu3Ql1Qy4wcWPf/z5Jybmi+ddApCfwccLweHCI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mGwodcLe2kYisvFJF5J2XI3EuSbAiTZ8imRKa/Stkh9XoWvbH+FzZchiDvcP2w7wm HO47+qtYAWiN8+Hqz/q0jYSnHislqwnzhQVW1Qv3nDyAJB5PI2tMqP+uvp0qSXWzpf w/MLdAiBnDj0uQKLtlcjEdXM6SdMnWXp+Az96qj8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294850b8d3790ca4 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Technically" speaking, wasn't the original beading actually molded in the body colors (rather than being painted)? --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall > The beading on all TR2s were painted body colors Sorry, I meant to say body color. Thanks for pointing out the brain fart, Lou. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 09:11:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9404381E for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:11:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB00438C3 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:02:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:02:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.161] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:02:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2012 16:02:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354291350; bh=Mqi/xqbpSgjGEOZr4sg92/VxTi8KOGJ8qyrfNfH5Hbg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=53VuaJSP50ARrGFmavZHYnNlmAEM6X+yFERAD81POQzBLYABQzgs7tWZFnXY0npfINSe4lbLiY3udhKnrFXDMAR/LfW+kKpDWrlMJquemq69Fs2RzlaxAdDoeicmiTZfRvDQYzw20ELaHF3YfsDlQjl03gQwoODEQetzQADZaaI= 7go04eIWk9qAW4hoMKM73EvnOiJtmowE934LpqFZBNW2lPnoyoVRPK1K.qI0 GV5LU4GhtE8xW.RHk_Oo5vadhOXU1Fc9osFppVwmhVZtRBS1uQ9uFb1L3pR8 VPLmS3xRSrwLV3DF5MSWA4CFTkyX15wS_nTA_6dUVdLwU7jfKrGsVz.b7zfM FiHNcr50TTe2IhOwzf0lAQ5kdLvosC8DDc4NNMAf6vmH9CZ5dfyOAkbEia90 3EISUHokNNCKJhwJ_JEUxOF5nnKLjUM3dqNpPwvOaw_6LHawA30_HZZi97os EbbdY7t5XHubPG52Pq6CABP77_NohYC6j729aMaA0ruCd94HoRFe17xAoSHV aVxQqTglGGC0CpiL0merFNr6K8OxfJumHSAdQCkK4YwyV9n0NOXXXhDDu67q Sp4DbcouV_2P19EjyQnt3EiJ3AqNTWB9chMWpR0bM1UiN30.XveP0Ht8.vGi ew6zXOPN_QVaQk9z3s7L52g_2FwxDyQp0hblPD9Fr5oxmtObIp3bGCD7g_am bUdX69Qjpx9zy.twHgodXsesztXKzqZPiNDaoVcJAuxfgg9TwEQ-- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp218.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2012 08:02:30 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew S. Mace'" , , References: <4E.40.21565.68138B05@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <8CF9D282F7126AD-1F80-3888E@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:02:26 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3PETXxZH0VzV67RDemS0UWXXyDbwAAKHfA Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Woolies web site carries a variety of colors in the beading/piping, presumably to match, or come close to, the paint choices. I, however will go with the flat "T" molding that they offer and paint it Signal Red along with the car when the time comes. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Mace Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:41 AM To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 painted wing beading question "Technically" speaking, wasn't the original beading actually molded in the body colors (rather than being painted)? --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Randall > The beading on all TR2s were painted body colors Sorry, I meant to say body color. Thanks for pointing out the brain fart, Lou. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 10:50:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629B24380B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:50:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E9E43801 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:50:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 766351C0001D2 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.193]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4216EE00008E for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:50:11 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:50:10 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354297811; bh=uvzoA2cQzIJntLjQqklzzMyjHGuHu0AQNK6UGymfep0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aylaAd8/530tZ09Jh1suxs0spsBw5XKMtD0f/8tNnA12D046ZcPtFVAo7OfPBR1d7 0u0S/xDNwxrcLUVoSzlykMmUnltd3ETKmwJEmj/8XdpqcwD8ekoGVhMLDQBad7DQGi MMam0FJX0lN8PBhIO1Cl7oaDTlEWTTlZOx37b/Ug= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850b8f1d301b5 Subject: [TR] Restoration source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was just put onto this outfit. It looks like they only do horns and wiper motors. http://www.british-car-part-restoration.com/index.html Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 11:01:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A84E43801 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:01:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout09-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DC71240ECD for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 2377 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2012 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.199.107.191) by smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.14) with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2012 18:00:52 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , References: <374f5.2304e385.3dea4bd2@cs.com> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:00:59 -0500 Thread-Index: AQCrArZzNZZs9J9HIBATqxAbJf9KOppIQp1A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Restoration source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "This outfit" is Lawrie Rhoads - a WW2 vet. I know Lawrie well - we went to the same church when I lived in Massachusetts. He does great work. All my horns and wipers are a tribute to him. I don't know if it is still the case, but if you sent your wiper motors or horns to Moss, they subcontracted it all to Lawrie. If you contact him, say hi from me. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 12:50 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Restoration source I was just put onto this outfit. It looks like they only do horns and wiper motors. http://www.british-car-part-restoration.com/index.html Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 12:48:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846EB43823 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:48:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B185740EDA for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:48:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id m15so836855lah.14 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=N8n0Qc/nQYZQioftoeupsoQkT3JYHyJF2GhF/Lf6k8I=; b=X9+WnnIhO7qcxAR+KDD8Fa2VNrm4bn2E6Cg+u3UEgnKzGu8PmL4nEEddSY5aw1VbRY Zv2PN8hkru7SRXXZL5vZvxQ/Fc+3XC+Xk0BzJVi1TkZj13f3OrG8A30yGFGdRRxSoZz/ RrMMn2xBqPxP8rNA3+e6aFmhTzgWr7Z+lVmGN8WDw9uruH2XjREEHj4LKhtN+MD0FUOv 2+jgttkT7J/h8tYq1hxIznyGrch7x5tB7FbwFTUqkY+pb7vq8kHbDGop1aWHTd/dMpxP N638/5nepfloFvqpaRumTvPbKO0DKEf2PKvoT5m8XpU/Ohui5ao/y6p8tJPtry1Lblqd yWWg== Received: by 10.112.25.99 with SMTP id b3mr1268774lbg.80.1354304891642; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.138.195 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:47:51 -0800 (PST) References: <374f5.2304e385.3dea4bd2@cs.com> <005601cdcf24$ab5d4080$0217c180$@uprichard.net> From: Don Hiscock Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:47:51 -0500 To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Restoration source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Lawrie recently rebuilt the original Lucas DR2 motor from my TR3B, and did a fine job. It had a heavily corroded end plate and frozen rear bushing. All of it was taken care of perfectly. Before: http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-M4DpN4X/0/L/i-M4DpN4X-L.jpg After: http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-3hTH63j/0/L/i-3hTH63j-L.jpg Don On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > "This outfit" is Lawrie Rhoads - a WW2 vet. > > I know Lawrie well - we went to the same church when I lived in > Massachusetts. He does great work. All my horns and wipers are a tribute > to him. I don't know if it is still the case, but if you sent your wiper > motors or horns to Moss, they subcontracted it all to Lawrie. > > If you contact him, say hi from me. > > Andrew Uprichard > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave1massey@cs.com > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 12:50 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Restoration source > > I was just put onto this outfit. It looks like they only do horns and > wiper > motors. > > http://www.british-car-part-restoration.com/index.html > > Dave > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 17:34:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AA44380B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:34:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E431740EC1 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:09:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qB109cEI021515 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:09:38 -0500 Received: from [10.231.219.98] (163.sub-174-252-2.myvzw.com [174.252.2.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 4C4F6E0000A1 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:09:38 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence Schwartz Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:09:34 -0500 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1354320578; bh=yWmV/ZNEF7RLfnBdy4LXc6pXLkOyzk0jvEeppCstswQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=HjpSqlIafNuGyi9HPNWsdxsAzfBGF2iXSFOvm/f79ETLCE1WsXRRONJwptac07Miz oSxC2i3y4fRQBcVo7TqAz/sWysonIPhZTRnAl9MQZ06moilWrhDiTaOahxxTRpEwaU twyLJvFDN/xLGbR+Bggs+T+xJa9Q15cnmCqmOvjE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290650b94ac05fd7 Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3-a Part WTD. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I am looking for a lower radiator protector bracket for my car. If anyone has one please contact me @ L1J1S@AOL. COM . For reference my car is a TS77317 OL. Cheers, Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 30 18:40:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379614381E for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:40:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76B437F8 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:17:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2012 01:17:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.45] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2012 01:17:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Dec 2012 01:17:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1354324653; bh=71GbeicQX26tJkk9Dy7YfDBJRK7+1Dj/SmNvn8/Jhck=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=Oz7B40R/tMN0Jttmxb7buxp07CV6La4rUwPs2+ow+BzlrQo9TJ2zvRE3LhN6S3NjT743Paa8UFvl6/yhdt9rUAGwYOiDQz1U1slAOWDVXEw9BrwVX9V79pyMtj0mSYfNL+mdvHEBGAfkVQ3co15FTA2WvW4Yx5GV1bUJBwK+ey8= UqD35xhofTJmxbjoOPn7MsY9W2hD.czJB6pI5a4SdhrBVNYqNezRIIHO_std 4PmQcqwaxJIKAjyhIcQouF08msZNGxIF.0L54iT8Z4SFEhLxUeSzYcjoXx7J 2u9YRL.7QXQMKDK4I2XhgSTYkt3GFZhKcFGYu2o_spOVqrLDWu._0rm.3Rad loqCdHvKjW1ROQ6xAOxeYdMznenb0cHr5VssHO4v6oVJnvFCMGEoRFO_mCnP Lnm2TJBScAtThgpZJRi0MjuQV0GZyOY2i14eKb6TiPjiyz4InzmlXCf9Lyft yb1YqbU0RN8hvpHVvVTX8C5q5C8hGeajvvcqIsNLQaw0KkqiNC8RofzR6sjJ tJwNA1Bc2Rd11RnOhxDAcUIH6OEZrrWfiFpOciaKjshwKV0wqtSbWwzGN5Wa wy51VJEAtqmK1bIeLVz4SbtKZiPqVnI5aeGdhn48Ekz6__gB3tnuwx5gjjqv Onj29HTEpANk5AkxkfEFGdKk8mwp5S7p_7Lkp3r2JfKojuCh.M05TMPgxQiu c Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2012 17:17:32 -0800 PST From: "Wbeech" To: "'Lawrence Schwartz'" , References: Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:17:42 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3PW7Ryruy+50eKRgGI1kI8xFpB9QABdOgA Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3-a Part WTD. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's one on eBay $54. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lawrence Schwartz Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 6:10 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3-a Part WTD. List, I am looking for a lower radiator protector bracket for my car. If anyone has one please contact me @ L1J1S@AOL. COM . For reference my car is a TS77317 OL. Cheers, Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive