From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 07:01:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3452F406B6 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 07:01:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D29440449 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 06:55:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHL00LNKIGE5XE0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:50:40 -0600 (CST) From: "ptegler" To: , , , Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:50:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] [MG-MGB] not MG but collector related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone in the Baltimore area... Crazy Rays yard down Hawkins Point has three Corvairs all in one row. Two look totally restorable! There were two Metropolitans even (*neither worth a second look other than the oddity of seeing them there. Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 13:19:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17542C1A for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:19:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0205B406ED for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:12:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 20:07:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.5] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 20:07:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Feb 2013 20:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27486 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2013 20:07:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359835627; bh=UCHmwCpyR8xQcny3++qR0c2dL9lwOO672n+bzZXMnPw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SoZH2DaJ3RrvsSGW9z+sUirsCMITS5pygm5ltegLzKRW30e1WNun9ZSCa8d4Ww4yrzpfXan7B7C5qbICuuMlZ9+S4VVHsUNDktgRlHf0uTiNDzJ1QV3NLQv0HIZLkMkaY1hMVNuqMl6iBLk01g6V3de4qg59uDSMKErLp1d0mS0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TkJ9e2Aez0IBimGL64CaciNc4vZqCrOLmgtdUUgOKV1A3HOm4xAuY1K6VhLtlywp0FConb1iW1Kd+geYYl5MGpXkQOB3L8E6PKP3WPFvIGU5Jur3cEtQbJTGWhjkY8mq3Gklnt2/qbtyxsIM8V0extfUQSta61eo4qiS56+p1Q8=; BZ0.R.KtIyzTYyiJgwijFHI_bbLaxBMo3NZpuO2KYgzhN.UZO5neTmKSxrKj DfmlxH8B.VRKu.4NpbDe9fJW0RiXa_80WO1LuB716Ziu1nVZMcA65WTkom3F iSAAULcxHRqxJ0XKp_oLpgFgmpKiO61hlb3x6NN_21slGJEQkJ7NbzYqo6FS N_M5joO60uSvjN5VUZptlfplWI6Ps2KXvnBM9LGqcjHGCiN1c4tz1Hm2sH6Y AvTPK2WWffo3yKvCS4EuRJ_1.Ldn14gsXBEb_ovII0kv9Q2OthlKYajjNAgw mBpRd.d2PTeJ56Mkki8ZN7vP9HVqKWBeh2RhSgIcJfjgOvtzA.qK5GsovtSg 36Jbvajhe4_AYpKiU9LHAxAwpW6lPoPg1M8YISeXehnivWya7NTnVn8M- Received: from [98.112.193.78] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:07:07 PST aW4gc2VjdGlvbiBNIG9uIHBhZ2UgMzMgb2YgdGhlIHRyaXVtcGggc2VydmljZSBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbiBtYW51YWwgaXQgc2hvd3MgdGhlIGFkdmFuY2UgY3VydmUgZm9yIHRoZSBpZ25pdGlvbi4KaW0gYXNzdW1pbmcgdGhpcyBjdXJ2ZSBpcyBtZWFzdXJlZCB3aXRoIHRoZSB2YWN1dW0gYWR2YW5jZSBkaXNjb25uZWN0ZWQuIG5vPwrCoAp0aGFua3MKRnJhbmsBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 12:07:07 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 advance curve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net in section M on page 33 of the triumph service instruction manual it shows the advance curve for the ignition. im assuming this curve is measured with the vacuum advance disconnected. no? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 18:14:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC6242C23 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:14:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DDE40E42 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:09:53 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2QPeHqsNNYoA:10 a=KtG--inuiETWyJ1KS8gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55007] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 5A/60-25866-EA7BD015; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:04:46 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:04:50 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4Bgdn9H0h7DCoOQjKC9lmDT6KeHAAJXEEg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 advance curve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > in section M on page 33 of the triumph service instruction > manual it shows the advance curve for the ignition. > im assuming this curve is measured with the vacuum advance > disconnected. no? That's what I would think ... But the chart doesn't seem to match the numbers given on page 19 either with or without the advance included. Nor do they match the numbers for the later 40480 distributor. So ??? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 21:08:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC29242D47 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 21:08:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from ewout03.consolidated.net (ewout03.consolidated.net [206.123.242.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6A240646 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 21:07:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.251.169.90]) by ewout03.consolidated.net ({7f4c37df-33fe-4041-bc97-39fcf9138839}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTPSA id 20130203040216045 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Sun, 03 Feb 2013 04:02:16 +0000 References: <5A.60.25866.EA7BD015@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> From: Home Consolidated Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 22:02:09 -0600 To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 advance curve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I remember looking at this four or five years ago, as I recall the various Lucas numbers all had different advance curves. And different numbers were used at different times. Mallory sells their MGB distributor as a direct replacement for our Triumph Lucas #. I am guessing that any thing that can be made to fit can be curved close to the original setting (or any other setting your particular engine might need). Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Feb 2, 2013, at 7:04 PM, "Randall" wrote: >> in section M on page 33 of the triumph service instruction >> manual it shows the advance curve for the ignition. >> im assuming this curve is measured with the vacuum advance >> disconnected. no? > > That's what I would think ... But the chart doesn't seem to match the > numbers given on page 19 either with or without the advance included. Nor > do they match the numbers for the later 40480 distributor. So ??? > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs@consolidated.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 07:44:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E442498 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 07:44:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CB440E1F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 07:43:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id n8so5967435lbj.3 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 06:38:28 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=iiJPEjoI0NSec6+u90XoHgBzB7qgKIC/Conqa9qEKKA=; b=RYLdFAEUM8Xcb/FrOL1mcEVm3rWOdfUIgK/dBCDm9kJ64vPoCvfIE0dp/2sfa/gA0D 5Q3pb00ygwOqGxhn1JVg6y8Nbyk20oa1DDm+v/6r1l/fRS/flCol4mMUKKd84tGnO6NR kaEziGzVw4BnwVEDeh6i52q2ov1SYyRert9aIVoRC71CWNg1DjmtsWcP/WXkFe8UFrn6 LQphfVHLsEpE3buy8NhiOmr8w7qfPpH0xIrXkXT/M2oIlhzNgNFe5PkYaZzfFuuKLpW5 rEzGkELjvcSdFDMK24F7am+cImwK+BSjCm9unf8P/lXIVOORTn4ZYKK9/lLAiiHuv7Yz PAkg== hu18mr16247725lab.12.1359902308428; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 06:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 06:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:38:08 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Team, I've looked on the web and in the archives - (Buckeye, RedRiver, 6-pack, other various message boards). Other than wire brushing and blasting - are there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, common problems I can avoid later? I've been doing some mechanical work on the 6 - I've welded up the diff mounts front and rear; replaced the ujoints; and am waiting for my diff to come back from my gearman (that and rear hubs are about the only thing on this car I did not want to do myself). So while waiting, I figured I'd tackle the interior - dashboard and seats primarily. I removed the seat cover from seat 1 - no rips or tears. And dumped out a pile of crumbly decayed foam all over my bench, floor and feet. The frame was covered in duct tape and a few pieces of foam here and there, so the covers have come off once before or are replacement covers. I also made 11cents and think I found a half of something that resembles a hand rolled cigarette... oh the tales our cars could tell. My plan (for now) is to replace the diaphragms cut some hi density foam for the seat and middle density for the backs and put the covers back on. I intend to keep the covers a bit loose to reduce the chance of them splitting apart once the new foam applies pressure. Fingers crossed. There are two knobs on the side of the seat.I hadn't figured out what they do as neither one moves. The chrome one is for reclining the seat - after alot of PB blaster, this now works. I think the other pointy knob is for sticking in your butt cheek as you enter the car. That hurts!!! i'm hoping that some foam in the seats will reduce the pain. So - back to the original question: Other than wire brushing and blasting - are there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, common problems I can avoid later? Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 08:11:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317042B65 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:11:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E554540697 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:00:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:55:30 -0600 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:55:25 -0600 References: To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes. Cover or round-off any sharp edges that will press against the covers. I learned this the hard way when a sharp edge tore my brand-effing new passenger's side seat cover. On Feb 3, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > Hi Team, > > I've looked on the web and in the archives - (Buckeye, RedRiver, 6-pack, > other various message boards). Other than wire brushing and blasting - are > there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, common > problems I can avoid later? > > I've been doing some mechanical work on the 6 - I've welded up the diff > mounts front and rear; replaced the ujoints; and am waiting for my diff to > come back from my gearman (that and rear hubs are about the only thing on > this car I did not want to do myself). > > So while waiting, I figured I'd tackle the interior - dashboard and > seats primarily. > > I removed the seat cover from seat 1 - no rips or tears. And dumped out a > pile of crumbly decayed foam all over my bench, floor and feet. The frame > was covered in duct tape and a few pieces of foam here and there, so the > covers have come off once before or are replacement covers. I also made > 11cents and think I found a half of something that resembles a hand rolled > cigarette... oh the tales our cars could tell. > > My plan (for now) is to replace the diaphragms cut some hi > density foam for the seat and middle density for the backs and put the > covers back on. I intend to keep the covers a bit loose to reduce the > chance of them splitting apart once the new foam applies pressure. Fingers > crossed. > > There are two knobs on the side of the seat.I hadn't figured out what they > do as neither one moves. The chrome one is for reclining the seat - after > alot of PB blaster, this now works. I think the other pointy knob is for > sticking in your butt cheek as you enter the car. That hurts!!! i'm > hoping that some foam in the seats will reduce the pain. > > So - back to the original question: Other than wire brushing and blasting > - are there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, > common problems I can avoid later? > > Thanks > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 08:43:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34B4246F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:43:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E18240695 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:37:23 -0700 (MST) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=dKHUvbe2BiAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=k4t7T-jHKjwA:10 a=4GKs6HCzaArAMzBqdVIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:52560] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id ED/B7-27917-DF28E015; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:32:14 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "G.D. Huggins" , "Chris Simo" References: <6FB6C22C-86AB-4442-B2F5-D644C12B332E@genfiniti.com> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:32:16 -0600 Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if I have great words of wisdom as to how to preserve the seat frames, but I will say that I know they can rust, my TR250 frames were mostly crumbly red flakes on the bottom portions. I spent quite a bit of time fabricating and welding and grinding up some fiddly little bits to repair it. But this was on a car that had been stored indoors and outdoors and who knows where for many years, unless you live in a very corrosive environment, such as down by the ocean the things should last pretty long with a fresh coat of paint. I like to use Rust Oleum rusty metal primer followed by the appropriate top coat color from them, and have painted many parts as well as rusty cast iron outdoor furniture with the stuff and it seems to hold corrosion at bay pretty well. Or you could use epoxy primer, but that may be overkill. Let us know how the foam replacement goes, I put a 1/2" thick foam piece in the seat base to bolster up the seats (which worked pretty well) and to try to control the crumbling of the stuff that was in there, but mine still leave lots of little bits of foam rubber under the seats. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 08:58:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9551D42D73 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:58:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01B140426 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:49:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS24 ([65.54.190.60]) by bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Feb 2013 07:44:00 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'list Triumph'" Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 07:43:58 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4CJUfPjKDkEDYDTWO4cshIUjki+g== Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[497171A0:01CE0225] Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems - TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On a somewhat related topic, a customer brought in his TR3 seat bottoms yesterday, which had the spring and horsehair monstrosities replaced with foam and a wire grill at the bottom. I'm kind of partial to the spring and horsehair setup in my TR3. Has anybody purchased the re-pop ones from TRF? Are they any good, are they worth looking into, or should we just stick with the foam? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 09:14:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B959242DB5 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:14:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE3C40E1F for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:12:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hm14so2120757wib.10 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:06:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EW2QoLxzdFwyWN1NbQwgWw1XK9yhONjDNvEfzkgIhjg=; b=qDVDwqOInoCLT/zp+jIJGlYV3D5qQKsHY2k+ueU3EaHmAfTeuj15OXhyURNKwpwKTu IFEIFRbI9/ujc2G5XqAzw0w7rQF/GxqMftq1gvuY3qjPymGTmC6hiOYMwp4tekHZHAlZ dVwpNOeYatO55AemkGtQ7S2bpxGM5CtwaulOdvS9AnZQ+N2vamq4wrM9V+bsj27duml6 FyvaCQ5EbFo3J4hYSWWIPFSrZ6lPfoeqD7H6Pw7XXZVHYSZnfCzq+GSZFNHGNVKLE2OP 7L5W7pHSKPbNoHci9GGalXoKM1bHjULMOEpmodAr1UyJvsFwUhtvUiewfbVUKmOa6A9Y sPzQ== hq18mr6297123wib.0.1359907611137; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.15.73 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:06:51 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:06:51 -0600 From: Don Hiscock To: Jonas Payne Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems - TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I put the TRF horsehair/fabric kits (RFK258) on my TR3B last year and am perfectly satisfied with the results. So close to the originals one can't tell the difference. http://trf.zeni.net/webcatalog/specials8.6/7.php Don On 2/3/13, Jonas Payne wrote: > On a somewhat related topic, a customer brought in his TR3 seat bottoms > yesterday, which had the spring and horsehair monstrosities replaced with > foam and a wire grill at the bottom. > > I'm kind of partial to the spring and horsehair setup in my TR3. > > Has anybody purchased the re-pop ones from TRF? Are they any good, are > they > worth looking into, or should we just stick with the foam? > > > > > > Jonas Payne > PBR Consulting > 702-882-6711 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 11:50:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157BD42491 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:50:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEB442480 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:45:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4C9571C00004D for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moe003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.73]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2254AE000089 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359916826; bh=ENjwymWxmlPcgl8WuEsrYib7Lg7thxYWfxIxiBrq45I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M8AESrFFIdqycjlAaG2TNSg3b8iMb32H3vKSIpzl4WCJ5PurAq0e8s35uhX3LJAuR +Zo1h1wuyJsQttl2lgo+KS5YyAgvvNBMA0TbfyOAGc+dEODwRPynbHzlqcCb4X9P0z VS9UtzDAdgcAV0CQwk8p1wLv0c/oVS0cOvtBGptA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a510eaf1a75e9 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems - TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The new springs from TRF are much better than the originals I had (which may have been much degraded from how they were when new, but I don't know) The new seat kits come with padding as an intermediary between the springs and the upholstery and seems to work well enough. The new seats are more comfortable than the old seats but the old seats used to bottom out. And I ain't all that heavy. Dave In a message dated 2/3/2013 9:53:17 AM Central Standard Time, jagmog@hotmail.com writes: > On a somewhat related topic, a customer brought in his TR3 seat bottoms > yesterday, which had the spring and horsehair monstrosities replaced with > foam and a wire grill at the bottom. > > I'm kind of partial to the spring and horsehair setup in my TR3. > > Has anybody purchased the re-pop ones from TRF? Are they any good, are > they > worth looking into, or should we just stick with the foam? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 18:32:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AB742813 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:32:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A54427DE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:31:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id w1Pl1k00A0EPchoA71SBYl; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:26:11 +0000 Received: from RCA ([24.13.184.232]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id w1SA1k00F51Fouo8M1SB3L; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:26:11 +0000 From: "Bob and Trish" To: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:26:20 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1359941171; bh=BuMhlse1L0jbD3n9ZnPZvPdijcXY2aNR/8+fjPz5yzE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=OilSORkVG+lGMtg7cZIk2/W2YWWFPaGJF5tdqCcnbNsfeZdIzXXZfvVm0NxY/xkAn dtQ4iblp+G1e33WGaZWJU0lYzPVlnhSLVKe6dfYnpr7qIkgnzW23kaT3cSu4LtH0P2 Yjze6OJefnon70hmfvbcy09TdidDGkOePPw0/MdM0tPdsktQnlbmvT4R1mYvuCDZZW CDvUqKzIUhZdqHznNyyFY8xAYdpmNKaSMNvDH725m8cidA6IWiUWPUUpSzTXku3trc cA1djV4XGX5vzq0U6zlqKW8VU3ii0KEOR7qz/WrIJatirfSPU82MgmrzlWIEO8wjVp N9neTeMCqmUVg== Subject: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net We on the MG enthusiast pages have seen some MG's previously identified as storm Sandy total loss flood damaged salvage showing up on ebay as a "clean" recently restored resale with no notice of the flood damage or prior branded salvage title. Titles have been "washed" thru New Hampshire. So if you are in the buying mode please be diligent if buying a vehicle out of the NE and especially if it has recent NH title documentation. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 05:53:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05B540422 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 05:53:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE534041C for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 05:53:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 12:48:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.34] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 12:48:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 12:48:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359982087; bh=ROBBATutRftLNDyti3XNioJB5dSceNj9MpPybGqjTws=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=0a4zCJspSnKwMIpbanSmEQfRDvRUsROgU5FyKOQCeXB84DEUzA9k8vQ8WET8DFIOco3Qzx5YZSdS49ofAMKkcc4hupAXlYd7wT6LFmmO0K6ivJdw3v0ssjOIp8j46rDTG1IUeL/gibKqy9A+Zh1OhhRMHzNHhSEMdk3jg+9KFHs= YoA3Ectpq9PEui1BFR20S_TmRvI5iFgsgXb1M7S_MqpXuGl8JNChkzvfT6uV 6gs2ebQ78432knQ30u5fdBI54LWdiU4Z3DOwphWPbRwkQ51QeXNZFSA1JQ2. _NobPALGc6Bqg2uEejYD8Yi0_AuA2HTKPjuYKR8teejpaINrqIkTUVBkJLGO nhhPBv_f6H.XZTfIYBrJaFkRpHtjsmW_B0KGQd2LAK72CwFYckYehlB8QbIK DxAshlrvhUOukQssZuFoV4.mPjyGrpd0c6Ivixyydxu.baSx4WqrdymbwPIY ImlJxgM3QAThN.bqlbUyI0BXIekLAJzKrm0dpJ2IWpGbF4eQzj.BfQbg0tSk 3vTBn.gUbjmxlvvtmFldrqTbTcnPW.9MpeDcO29G0s74XwY2MqdquzStnDYq j_fD3KMLVxDuPvx7txl_I8byToOKzEuahJwEXc9TT6XzmKVMFFSOONTPKNIZ B3HEKDSfSyA-- Received: from [10.242.196.122] (lgmtr6@174.228.194.145 with xymcookie) by smtp101-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Feb 2013 12:48:07 +0000 UTC References: From: Triumph List Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 07:48:05 -0500 To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chris I've done about 6 sets of TR6 seats and I can say that if the frames aren't rusty you should be fine. Sand, prime, paint and lubricate the hinges. The "butt cheek" sticker is to disengage the seat from the rear catch so you can pull the seat forward and give access to the area behind the seats. You'll have to fiddle with the adjustment to ensure the seat actually locks down to the runners. As far as using old covers, I've done it and don't recommend it. While they may seem in good condition, once you start using them the stitching gives way and they usually fall apart. Now you end up doing it all over again. I would recommend replacing them while you have them apart. The old saying of "do it right or do it twice" has bitten my more than once and it's too big a job to have to do twice. Also, Victoria British used to have a very nice booklet on reupholstering TR6 seats which was part of the catalogue. You may find it posted on line. Larry Miceli Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > Hi Team, > > I've looked on the web and in the archives - (Buckeye, RedRiver, 6-pack, > other various message boards). Other than wire brushing and blasting - are > there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, common > problems I can avoid later? > > I've been doing some mechanical work on the 6 - I've welded up the diff > mounts front and rear; replaced the ujoints; and am waiting for my diff to > come back from my gearman (that and rear hubs are about the only thing on > this car I did not want to do myself). > > So while waiting, I figured I'd tackle the interior - dashboard and > seats primarily. > > I removed the seat cover from seat 1 - no rips or tears. And dumped out a > pile of crumbly decayed foam all over my bench, floor and feet. The frame > was covered in duct tape and a few pieces of foam here and there, so the > covers have come off once before or are replacement covers. I also made > 11cents and think I found a half of something that resembles a hand rolled > cigarette... oh the tales our cars could tell. > > My plan (for now) is to replace the diaphragms cut some hi > density foam for the seat and middle density for the backs and put the > covers back on. I intend to keep the covers a bit loose to reduce the > chance of them splitting apart once the new foam applies pressure. Fingers > crossed. > > There are two knobs on the side of the seat.I hadn't figured out what they > do as neither one moves. The chrome one is for reclining the seat - after > alot of PB blaster, this now works. I think the other pointy knob is for > sticking in your butt cheek as you enter the car. That hurts!!! i'm > hoping that some foam in the seats will reduce the pain. > > So - back to the original question: Other than wire brushing and blasting > - are there any other preventive measures I should take with the frames, > common problems I can avoid later? > > Thanks > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/lgmtr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 12:35:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5F040440 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:35:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F85B403FC for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:30:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wBmu1k00216LCl055KRU7z; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:28 +0000 Received: from [10.229.235.155] ([174.228.0.221]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wKRH1k00l4m5que3SKRL9i; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:25:26 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIGFuZCBUcmlzaA==?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:25:25 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1360005928; bh=mi/d3ZvKNmsbdYIPcbu5F/BrqhKrAL/8KiNLaWoRpRI=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g1w0DvVZcdimnhvHgFROXgtIXuEusDY8ORvApZ64j2YxZVzuwebbMZ/k/Jplr+RPk RYrssBo8opk8zGWkTiMwpAFebBhGcamnJA3IU0B3HQpzwdnpr7T4A0WhywVzin95zp jl2KmbJlp4KE6bX295c0CvcRT+IZTs+P1tGC4PMiCDlEodqA3I2b822RClEfZpEM71 w88Rc+H4Cs6zKIRri4YEfFUhQFO2WakHV5we4uZygfpItF2cTST0pe+AbH1c5Pr1yF RMeChv3CixYIh5y9BEWIHwejiBR19MKZVTalF/zQodnbTBhXg1OpVosy06mWrkJLA9 FzPcLn0MEk1Sw== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Storm_Sandy_Flood_Vehicles?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What's in an mg that can't take a splash of sea water? ;-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob and Trish" To: Subject: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Date: Sun, Feb 3, 2013 19:26 We on the MG enthusiast pages have seen some MG's previously identified as storm Sandy total loss flood damaged salvage showing up on ebay as a "clean" recently restored resale with no notice of the flood damage or prior branded salvage title. Titles have been "washed" thru New Hampshire. So if you are in the buying mode please be diligent if buying a vehicle out of the NE and especially if it has recent NH title documentation. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 13:23:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAC74043D for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:23:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434FA40433 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:22:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.231]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id wLHg1k0064zYseW01LHhwq; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:17:41 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:17:42 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4DFK9asXQDvKywThqw/W7gQ0N5IQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I see aluminum radiators being advertised on eBay for not much more than the cost of recoring my old one. Does anyone have experience with these radiators? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 13:52:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C65740440 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:52:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E5540432 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:51:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (69.0.52.101.adsl.snet.net [69.0.52.101]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Ljr9d-1UeGVz3GMD-00cHUI; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:45:46 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Bob and Trish" , , References: <20130204193446.75AC940432@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:45:42 -0500 twmI8AXyCP9C1vqeC9odzOAa4zTTgHqUDXmox2XQszYaakT2zV XyphHbnk43DqyqnQ3WMA3dG6syGyv++T0KeB/nr8xHs9mP6SRB 1vjY5KuAttSjVdt2YUCQriAMuWD9qq8UqMeQ2VmfMsmbs5+JAs 9OnjLU+WXN2rtfNv5xMrI/RlvRPn8UyNf5GygPmyS0j/Zeu9VS a/CnfnGhBfwKQ+bt1m83JGgLlQMNXW54qh8kKWGoNknVs/CGcN kCCmNyPNXnmVUGsw0yMhpLXGVIEhZuZBCh03gFXLjk4+sjevwr lfX3yImHqM0vSt1PJ++Hjle55pMm2LEw+T1wwmtzE Subject: Re: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It was also posted to The 6-Pack Forum as a buyer beware........ The guy was selling the MGB on eBay with a clear NH title (someone washing titles?) but the MG guys found the car had been bought at auction as flood damaged with a salvage only title. Same car right down to the VIN and mileage. I think they started questioning the eBay guy who then pulled the listing. Someone bought it at salvage for $975 and he put it on eBay for $5400. Here's the two links: http://www.insurancedirectautos.com/StockDetail.asp?StockID=27123002&YardID=135&DSID=4 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGB-RED-1977-MG-MGB-ROADSTER-NICE-CAR-SORTED-WEBER-CARB-RUST-FREE-ORIG-COND-/271147038649?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f219f77b9 eBay link as a Tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/ckbz4km Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: spook01@comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:25 PM To: Bob and Trish ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles What's in an mg that can't take a splash of sea water? ;-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob and Trish" To: Subject: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Date: Sun, Feb 3, 2013 19:26 We on the MG enthusiast pages have seen some MG's previously identified as storm Sandy total loss flood damaged salvage showing up on ebay as a "clean" recently restored resale with no notice of the flood damage or prior branded salvage title. Titles have been "washed" thru New Hampshire. So if you are in the buying mode please be diligent if buying a vehicle out of the NE and especially if it has recent NH title documentation. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 14:07:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D540435 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:07:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EC340430 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:03:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wBUH1k00117dt5G53Lxo5Z; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:57:48 +0000 Received: from [10.229.235.155] ([174.228.2.112]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wLxa1k00o2R0AW63ZLxd7e; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:57:46 +0000 To: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>,"=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIGFuZCBUcmlzaA==?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:57:45 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1360011468; bh=ZyKaGpm1pdZsoyb2SyTQTSx/S37hFLDVDyJLKy3g9kA=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YKnI/96y8dyo7awO+Ky5MboF7lkGRTVyukSoC1AfZXu1e+9Z258jQQ7dWhIifN0a3 W+6V1mSWAwYHKtksKXG6MCtl+zE+E5axzKEwfWwFiGzTQnlO/JIuS68ohWN8VoH00h jfryXXHnESZO5NlK8Flx1pTNOB9Y8cPymc020yh5uZH/xhyP4xK9ZQ/ciEqFmATDwH IqMyORcGd+jC1KTlTO7YNDTdmvFXdg+shYr/M3LAamZcGCQrZCUHt9Ir08Wh5Oaq5t xlNLKGr9fRuAHIpDmVEUMdu9InNNB+Gm7YWxAZFqM97lbpvoQw7XeevGEXoxygUUqs YTdc2Xv7wFWwA== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Storm_Sandy_Flood_Vehicles?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah. This happens everytime a 'cane comes ashore. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Bob and Trish" , , Subject: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 14:45 It was also posted to The 6-Pack Forum as a buyer beware........ The guy was selling the MGB on eBay with a clear NH title (someone washing titles?) but the MG guys found the car had been bought at auction as flood damaged with a salvage only title. Same car right down to the VIN and mileage. I think they started questioning the eBay guy who then pulled the listing. Someone bought it at salvage for $975 and he put it on eBay for $5400. Here's the two links: http://www.insurancedirectautos.com/StockDetail.asp?StockID=27123002&YardID=135&DSID=4 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGB-RED-1977-MG-MGB-ROADSTER-NICE-CAR-SORTED-WEBER-CARB-RUST-FREE-ORIG-COND-/271147038649?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f219f77b9 eBay link as a Tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/ckbz4km Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: spook01@comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 2:25 PM To: Bob and Trish ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles What's in an mg that can't take a splash of sea water? ;-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob and Trish" To: Subject: [TR] Storm Sandy Flood Vehicles Date: Sun, Feb 3, 2013 19:26 We on the MG enthusiast pages have seen some MG's previously identified as storm Sandy total loss flood damaged salvage showing up on ebay as a "clean" recently restored resale with no notice of the flood damage or prior branded salvage title. Titles have been "washed" thru New Hampshire. So if you are in the buying mode please be diligent if buying a vehicle out of the NE and especially if it has recent NH title documentation. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 14:54:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7154940529 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:54:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EAE40435 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:53:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 21:48:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.12] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 21:48:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2013 21:48:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23391 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2013 21:48:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360014522; bh=gbKjCHhjOKdDJRMMOdddbUjTvod7AOHzDQg0bGmY30Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2P+K40FKqf47P24OX8tNh91QE0H+ThsWLC396Lkc8VhxNICfvJvKDKvv0KzeKHlxDDnnjlLwJTouepiZ4ZFF6sswXPnfYnHk75ojqAQATKvJK6bJGlbTkcge3wzRj2Y5GRmranLp2BFqAJquVm1XViEB07Fo601U3bQAPqXL81o= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eIm3/P8dfXflO8WjRT/2uaIsoIM/UIDx8WCXRHqRLDv40IY/4IwrSdEojEqZZE6Kw4g478GOg4ituacJXjXAkmIk0Pu5RYOhuu4H7fuNiUx8+MPW+VKAS+CqbuMK3Xn05P5voHMEyFt4jPPyAU/vE1zUn+nkcEFgdaLi41rv414=; CbSPcY.TPq6RRfw0rjZv1gbNCRygcCyiniLVq7qLwLheOw9bhl.YX.ZIVdtQ 10tiP.t5ZB89PiuALuYxG1HdmjdHL71kwHeJsarTebKB4efoHo7_gdZpgphr QXvillsgV6JBsokH0bDtgdZDRNznxwvi6QSfaDi8MKgnGV0YNX8.ipCvEsbL 1Np0X8AbyxnEjewUi8n7Wci7YveTZCaAPk9VsUBH5RR.HCnrB3TEnkZzUFga nhmz3o7QubToFZuB2biv5tiRl3MXXTBJ5twzQXWdN_ocSX8QZZ9C6h5e3tpu x58mtzQbNpdlmEpg6YXQwmyeJ3r2Mq9FFn2DI3wV5oU6jEZIPKwywp9fDXuP B51Y0WUeTHmvjm2LLBtwrcFXkSXh8XsbxzZwJXb1swUC82tbS2Hk6.Mu0WjD QmBvgaR.950I4_Vzwam0pIowu0xVQjzAQmYAQxfNsJQ4ikD6sEoEoDDX8.aT Ek4AITIaml2moehiasU4- Received: from [98.112.193.78] by web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 13:48:42 PST QnVkZHkgQ3VydCBoYXMgaGFkIG9uZSBvbiBoaXMgVFIzIGZvciBhYm91dCAyLzMgeWVhcnMgbm93LgpubyBwcm9ibGVtcwp5b3VyIHJlc3VsdHMgbWF5IHZhcnkgISEKRnJhbmsKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBBbmRyZXcgVXByaWNoYXJkIDxhdXByaWNoYXJkQHVwcmljaGFyZC5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCBGZWJydWFyeSA0LCAyMDEzIDEyOjE3IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gYWx1bWludW0gcmFkaWF0b3JzCgoBMAEBAQE- References: <019201ce0314$b0aa8ec0$11ffac40$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: Andrew Uprichard , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Buddy Curt has had one on his TR3 for about 2/3 years now. no problems your results may vary !! Frank ________________________________ From: Andrew Uprichard To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 12:17 PM Subject: [TR] aluminum radiators I see aluminum radiators being advertised on eBay for not much more than the cost of recoring my old one. Does anyone have experience with these radiators? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 17:13:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85240447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:13:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C810B40410 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:06:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mommystoy ([unknown] [173.69.208.181]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MHQ00IIG01WVFE1@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 18:01:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary Klein" To: Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:01:08 -0500 Thread-index: Ac4DM+YdUF18L8UUQzaWvZBy8xyprw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] Digest Attachments? What's UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know why the Digest is now sending a cover email and the individual messages as separate attachments? This is the body of the message: Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to triumphs@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to triumphs-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at triumphs-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." It used to be one file. This is very inconvenient. Gary ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 17:29:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7E8400A5 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:29:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A2B40411 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:27:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89002A0AD3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:24:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:24:11 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <010701ce0333$e69baae0$b3d300a0$@guy@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Digest Attachments? What's UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I didn't change anything, that I know of. I'll take a look, though. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 23:24:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7BF40E11 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:24:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72914069B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:21:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B23BA07B8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:17:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:17:48 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <010701ce0333$e69baae0$b3d300a0$@guy@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Digest Attachments? What's UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary Klein wrote: > Anyone know why the Digest is now sending a cover email and the individual > messages as separate attachments? Didn't find anything out of order, subscribed a test address to digest mode, will see what happens. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 06:05:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DFF40E01 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:05:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9404051B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:01:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E39363800037C; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moa001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.1]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B2CF3E00008A; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:56:23 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:56:23 -0500 (EST) To: mark@bradakis.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360068983; bh=pwWAzXm+lE32dJNgOT/xCglPr16ibxPCQTadiLavGgg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DytWVlNoh+gJYZN5DQNx3UW2qyVl4ACQQG5jXsn6Rbvl4UH+0QLDZDSA75S8ZphdV wkXVvE67/EA9jGZcCjtuRy6QeABUEpE+hCrnQD4zKesMfcCDhXCWHMtVVr0TY/1nKu 91z8pwVrWUWw+h+80xrtj2MS5Hv53CuozhuitEYA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca511101773383 Subject: Re: [TR] Digest Attachments? What's UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It could be his ISP. CompuServe will send photos as attachments which were originally embedded in the text. BTW "UP" is that part of Michigan west of Lake Michigan and north of Wisconsin. Dave In a message dated 2/5/2013 12:18:30 AM Central Standard Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Gary Klein wrote: > >Anyone know why the Digest is now sending a cover email and the > individual > >messages as separate attachments? > Didn't find anything out of order, subscribed a test address to digest > mode, > will see what happens. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 06:35:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92914069E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:35:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F834051B for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 06:34:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with ESMTP id QPH74448; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:28:48 -0600 From: "Michael Marr" To: , , References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 07:28:43 -0600 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac4DoLUz+EsqOjnfSNC8I4cQXYXpTgAAy1DQ Subject: Re: [TR] Digest Attachments? What's UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave Massey said: "BTW "UP" is that part of Michigan west of Lake Michigan and north of Wisconsin." The (da) UP is one of two homes of the Cornish Pasty in the US (the other is Mineral Point, WI) and home to Da Yoopers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb9yhhflmvY Mike (ex-cheesehead) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 17:47:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1E1406AC for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:47:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com (mail18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C184F403F2 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:30:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.13] helo=mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2sot-0007PY-2q for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:24:59 -0500 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2sos-00028f-Qr for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:24:58 -0500 Received: from webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.1]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id woQy1k00G01NXgy01oQysb; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:24:58 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=GI9VqYgoun4A:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=n1JymDe185h_xVpAk9QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Gw14LWMJN2Ai2xpvMnFLiA==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2so2-0005Y5-KW for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:24:06 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:24:06 -0500 References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> <020701ce03a4$b7d5b900$27812b00$@com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:24:06 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: triumphs@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Subject: [TR] TR wheel bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have lost the list of cars that the wheels share the Triumph 4 on 4 1/2 bolt pattern. Does anyone have that list handy? I remember 6 cylinder Ford Mustang on that list. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 18:02:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8096340437 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:02:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3F940047 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:41:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2szW-00059o-Tv for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:35:58 -0500 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2szW-0003Al-Pq for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:35:58 -0500 Received: from webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.1]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id woby1k00E01NXgy01obynM; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:35:58 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=HFNPOL7OhSQA:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=cAleKxkf2FvDysQVNvoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Gw14LWMJN2Ai2xpvMnFLiA==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2syd-00064u-0A for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:35:03 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:35:03 -0500 References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> <020701ce03a4$b7d5b900$27812b00$@com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:35:03 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: triumphs@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Subject: [TR] TR3A Battery hold down Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have access to their TR3A? I need the length and hole spacing of the bar used to hold down the battery. I wouldn't mind getting multiple replies. I'll use the most common dimensions. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 18:17:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E71B40547 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:17:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFA2403A0 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:56:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 747731C0001B5; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.5]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 10349E000085; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> <020701ce03a4$b7d5b900$27812b00$@com> <597fa4903fa16692c0f9555cd71bca9c.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> To: greg@gelhar.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-m182.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.139) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:51:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:51:17 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360111878; bh=anBWc+N3CzxogoZpr2e3dbubynK7dwlC0RlcswgmZi4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YHURhRHCNb9/cQNoRyhtr904fQpct/tjkJKAx4JoLiAFeb8rctuZfDwRS0qTJM6B7 kvfVnukco+9PaBoJlN8o0r4dFXydF5fEbsfqF/Dotqzi6RtqXs+7/zEiJ5/y3KWw2n RaHLXdgjQjtPOEaLZTJeAJoQRX2LTblP689FV5fo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c5111a90611db Subject: Re: [TR] TR wheel bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does this look familiar? Wheel bolt circles: The TR's (all of 'em....(except TR7/8)) use the same bolt pattern (4 on 4-1/2) as the following cars: 1989-85 CHEVROLET - Sprint 1996-92 EAGLE - Summit Wagon 1993-84 Summit 1994-89 FORD - Festiva 1996-89 GEO - Metro, Sprint 2000-92 HONDA - Prelude (15") 2000-90 Accord 1999-91 HYUNDAI - Elantra, Lantra 1999-90 Accent, Excel, Pony 1999-89 Sonata 1995-90 Scoupe 1989-81 MAZDA - 323, GLC 1987-85 626, MX-6 1998-92 MITSUBISHI - Expo, Expo LRV, Vista Wagon 1999-84 Galant 1993-84 Mirage 1991-80 Tredia 1999-93 NISSAN - Altima 1995-82 Stanza 1991-84 Maxima 1990-78 B310, Pulsar 1986-82 Sentra, Sunny 1999-84 PLYMOUTH - Colt Vista 1993-84 Colt 1985-79 Arrow, Champ 1999-89 SUZUKI - Swift 1991-83 SAAB - 900 1991-80 TOYOTA - Cressida 1985-80 Celica (14") 1982-79 Tercel(4WD) Acura - Legend '86-'89 Buick - Special '61-'63 Chevrolet Corvair all 4-bolt Chevy II all 4-bolt Sprint '85-'87 Nova ('61-'70) Datsun/Nissan - most models to '89 Dodge Colt '79-'88 Dodge Colt (early) Ford Mustang all '65-'68 4-bolt Falcon, Maverick, Granada all 4-bolt Mazda - 626, RX7 '83-'87 ???? MGA, MGB, MGC Olds - F-85 '61-'63 Plymouth - Arrow, Sapporo '79-'88 SAAB all ??? SAAB - 900 to '87 Toyota - most exc. MR2 and P.U. to '89 Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: greg To: triumphs Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 6:42 pm Subject: [TR] TR wheel bolt pattern I have lost the list of cars that the wheels share the Triumph 4 on 4 1/2 bolt pattern. Does anyone have that list handy? I remember 6 cylinder Ford Mustang on that list. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 18:47:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D364052E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:47:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp07.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp07.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C0D4040C; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:30:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from b2.c20.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.102]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r161PAxk019584; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:25:10 GMT Received: from 172.29.213.191 (cmp21.c20.bise6.blackberry [172.29.213.191]) by b2.c20.bise6.blackberry (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r161P9Of022269; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:25:09 GMT References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> <020701ce03a4$b7d5b900$27812b00$@com> <43fcb865f9289362371d39407e36e896.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: greg@gelhar.com, triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Bob Annand" Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 01:25:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Battery hold down Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 14" long 13.5" centre of holes Bob TS57799L Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyi sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le riseau de Bell. -----Original Message----- From: greg@gelhar.com Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:35:03 To: Subject: [TR] TR3A Battery hold down Does anyone have access to their TR3A? I need the length and hole spacing of the bar used to hold down the battery. I wouldn't mind getting multiple replies. I'll use the most common dimensions. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 08:35:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B8D403E7 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:35:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from aurora.ties2.net (aurora.ties2.net [198.22.19.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFEF403DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:30:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (174-20-111-232.mpls.qwest.net [174.20.111.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora.ties2.net (8.14.2+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r16FPQUG006254 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:25:27 -0600 (CST) From: Joe DeMuth Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:25:26 -0600 To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Annoying seat belt buzzer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 09:54:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCFA403FA for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:54:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3F9403DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:45:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m4so1362745lbo.28 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:40:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9qKolbxwNFCSTUKATsejIY7EiZhBTUNvkFX/dWuaxzM=; b=eazgJfePeEMF490EpsvAtzdWoEcEokSIkNSEIOUpVxei/PuYLVEqy4y8aQ6jBVjPrw qTmhx/E9l/FvKn3N+pXh/8BQ9TmvQ5uAI2ruQPyV5VkvtvwVW8xduCRvQckYfOhiJYPQ pDIRdX+GojeNkC9uj11N0XafyI9G+XW9SEv695fRK+nZD4KBC+Sf/E0khm5xz+luSxpU X74jqLZabv38YRlCDsReWTh7uSXZ5OJKu1XdUFR5ZoNMsFt+nknejvA1s2NWnpWKCLEZ v73FMmmaGv90zvVtwnAfjANcd5oya3FeKtHQoiyvt6H8kPAdt4rb2wmI40xdihjzf2B5 mqKQ== fa7mr5450572lbb.28.1360168806270; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:40:05 -0800 (PST) References: <386DA52F-C4A4-4D38-9F53-56F2489CDDB9@ties2.net> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:40:05 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: Joe DeMuth Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Annoying seat belt buzzer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Almost as annoying as messages with no content..... On Feb 6, 2013 10:30 AM, "Joe DeMuth" wrote: > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 10:38:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FED403A6 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:38:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from aurora.ties2.net (aurora.ties2.net [198.22.19.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D876440396 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:37:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (174-20-111-232.mpls.qwest.net [174.20.111.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora.ties2.net (8.14.2+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r16HVopK024285 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:31:51 -0600 (CST) From: Joe DeMuth Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:31:50 -0600 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Annoying buzzer, plain text this time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 11:55:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30D54052D for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:55:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from pop1.greatbasin.net (pop1.greatbasin.net [207.228.42.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0895403EE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:53:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from ownerPC (rno-pppoe1b-229.gbis.net [207.228.61.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by pop1.greatbasin.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r16Ilcav015740; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:47:38 -0800 From: "Skip Gurnee" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , References: <019201ce0314$b0aa8ec0$11ffac40$@uprichard.net> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:47:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew Uprichard wrote- "I see aluminum radiators being advertised on eBay for not much more than the cost of recoring my old one. Does anyone have experience with these radiators?" I bought an aluminum radiator (from Griffin Radiator in Piedmont SC) for the TVR. It was expensive, and it works better than stock. I'd say you'd take a big chance buying something advertised as aluminum for near the same price as a recore. Aluminum, by the way, doesn't transfer heat as well as copper, so unless you go bigger/thicker, you save nothing but a little weight. Skip Gurnee 64TR4 66TR4A 67 Lotus Cortina 70TVR ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 12:27:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAA640E23 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:27:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CD5403F4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:14:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY173-DS7 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:09:14 -0800 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Skip Gurnee'" , "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <019201ce0314$b0aa8ec0$11ffac40$@uprichard.net> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:09:11 -0800 Thread-Index: AQGIIEE3Y5VPcSOIYB97JT0uw6gulgMm4+CSmN/DI7A= Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[7404EEE0:01CE049D] Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guy in our club just got one for his AH sprite - neat piece of work. Can't beat the price. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Skip Gurnee Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:48 AM To: Andrew Uprichard; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Andrew Uprichard wrote- "I see aluminum radiators being advertised on eBay for not much more than the cost of recoring my old one. Does anyone have experience with these radiators?" I bought an aluminum radiator (from Griffin Radiator in Piedmont SC) for the TVR. It was expensive, and it works better than stock. I'd say you'd take a big chance buying something advertised as aluminum for near the same price as a recore. Aluminum, by the way, doesn't transfer heat as well as copper, so unless you go bigger/thicker, you save nothing but a little weight. Skip Gurnee 64TR4 66TR4A 67 Lotus Cortina 70TVR ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 12:28:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC57E4069C for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:28:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D5F403F4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:16:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id x1Jx1k00117UAYkAB7Aq1Q; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:10:50 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id x7Aq1k00E2xZMJ48Z7AqSW; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:10:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:10:50 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Joe DeMuth s=q20121106; t=1360177850; bh=uywZjogBlWXkNtOanHVmkuKLDZNcwM03L/BZScbyS4M=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CUUVoiYzvCuLkqJeNQU1lu55AtDXpPtzDoH7KChyq1uJlClsxjOr0IFBKBnWm6kSp djmY70h1C/tcBKlc3ohljyTutDTBjFuDKzL240163dEKHCZKKD8+2369lz7ruhMLpO Oz4VcLM9f2KnSUionsGvWdIw+m0cdkq9u/NsDRNtEC+lnbIQbO8ZJ2FL32E9psbzxU e8MCXgjGbCegiU+nuC+Z6A9MiDdU1E2bCskwBK+w4FKnFnrSqpt9jWyE1a1hxIW4PL dtajtK9yKXdxuvDxVBvmbJFa7PMJfu9aJsWsVtQL2o0C26mwDsUKtPGClN12sbCdIE EBqMoqnwjzR+g== Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Annoying buzzer, plain text this time Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net More like NO text this time... Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe DeMuth" > To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:31:50 AM > Subject: [TR] Annoying buzzer, plain text this time > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 12:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1840532 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:55:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com (mail-ia0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0AF403E9 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:45:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o25so2002969iad.19 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=48a0+omcgoKiKLhA2VvwZn6rE3qmoaTG2ARzkduNZx4=; b=BYfKSNhDe2ZoP83sUJu21Ok6B07ZLB6V6NdxisGIwQO6Xylu9vogkaxhDG1qCQ+hVH rqoUA4rh885XUGgvZc0RgGbkG/UwfCBk3pLhhwkajtLoLFdFZ9MRERneNF4hPs/Ik0eP syJ+RIV4OE51/RfB5arL4gCBPLdxIn/3Jtt7vUR5g0A9c9yXV/+nxw4eZFTW8dNyvBry JaH4E3jJgAxG3TNrtZ8UoDAepASeXb8PBgF14W3uantob7NUHbcTlilQ6KqwY/C4MOcH sOYW16sFHW8keoPi0Ts9BdiHlxDvWeNbPcI1znPnhhzmh39p6C5FtD5+RSDJy3FydAHf ZYcg== gt9mr7277718igc.80.1360179590003; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm3481572paz.17.2013.02.06.11.39.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:39:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:39:43 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <386DA52F-C4A4-4D38-9F53-56F2489CDDB9@ties2.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Annoying seat belt buzzer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/6/13 8:25 AM, Joe DeMuth wrote: I wouldn't have anything to say about seat belt buzzers either. Never heard of them. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 12:57:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F474042C for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:57:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDE4403EC for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:52:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l20so1963444oag.9 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:46:44 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OlFLErnKTMZt2VnkQ2rEE6Onlzwj0pUxmvxo+O3ztdA=; b=lK3KjCed4rMbijRkM+sQJLhNfu4VngcnTI3X94KS+dSadX+2jwFsOb2icggVrzS1aH shiiuA76XncWHz+utR55QHNZ9I0X7ze5Eou8PP+kcmeOB1qCno3XIB6AOoBSA2JPz9Tj ZN3Bp9CXnE379249bbsKYj2Ubr1Rg1WSYHmiPjyHSn3NalsY9CdzuD4Hp84fEDMenplK V+KkaG8jBMfP2ew68fl2Vq9rLirS6AH5hE4ltoizNaxxXZmJwuL4YbuQohfic+zF6oF5 ci/Gu8YQUTCH1MgAvEBaYRvpv8YGRMyE9b8/bdmaprPEsUlHQu4tiJRbBFz7L0A0gypT 8ltQ== Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6sm39983984paz.11.2013.02.06.11.46.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 11:46:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:46:37 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <019201ce0314$b0aa8ec0$11ffac40$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/6/13 11:47 AM, Skip Gurnee wrote: > Aluminum, by the way, doesn't transfer heat as well as copper, so > unless you go bigger/thicker, you save nothing but a little weight. No but it does transfer heat better than brass. Maybe one should be looking for a sliver radiator. I got my aluminum radiator about 2-1/2 years ago off ebay and it does help my 3 stay cooler in hot weather. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 13:43:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F644052B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:43:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com (mail-ia0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9E3403DE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:40:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id u8so2092916iag.17 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:34:35 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=0FVeQgH4cKsJeyNHlBm/eZyY+2OX3gA9fNSr8e4J+ps=; b=vhy+n2+agBuzjVSoGqCSjFB/NopCkJoBnQ7Kty+yZ9gb7bTgVkZfrYT5iwdNtAHrSA 4E/epkIMu/4bCJAMHFP8sF+wFETZEBSTLMRHf4nzpOtsdbJppqRpn1y7m7tO8NiBAWvV vn/Ou20Csw7rPGXYpLUOncFe0zLOZOn32nbmxsfJnjXT3QTyu+kEJqFCtPueaUS+HW7Z TM3xHWiEfCYYlnWnjmkMjpNJecSjDYuN/inwvZJgMnMXEMDvtv74BmncgsNilDXeRwO7 sB2raeCq8Go27IIq9iqg11DTo60RmXikuzFpw3NKaf1DTVWDa7DfLXkK8831shMuYmIj GugA== x7mr8987980igk.79.1360182871156; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwaws006 (75-149-51-150-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [75.149.51.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm40247043pax.23.2013.02.06.12.34.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:34:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Roger Wilson" To: References: <019201ce0314$b0aa8ec0$11ffac40$@uprichard.net> <5112B31D.80600@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:33:58 -0800 thread-index: Ac4Eo2kcERuD4VsURnyHZGtEeH9N1wABO7oQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Replace a radiator with a crank hole in my TR3 with an aluminum one w/o the hole about 2 years ago. I think it stays cooler in the summer, especially in traffic, probably more due to better flow w/o the crank hole. Roger -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:47 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators On 2/6/13 11:47 AM, Skip Gurnee wrote: > Aluminum, by the way, doesn't transfer heat as well as copper, so > unless you go bigger/thicker, you save nothing but a little weight. No but it does transfer heat better than brass. Maybe one should be looking for a sliver radiator. I got my aluminum radiator about 2-1/2 years ago off ebay and it does help my 3 stay cooler in hot weather. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rjwilson1250@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 13:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E263F4053A for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:59:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DB0403DD for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 13:52:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B1B4B38000062; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dsc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.81]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 76073E000086; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:47:30 -0500 (EST) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Full-name: KingsCreekTrees Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:47:30 -0500 (EST) To: rjwilson1250@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360183650; bh=6+NJEnsxInramxgajYdyDQvP33jHC2D/5TJMXzfC4AY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UT/1XDaGwwTAH3EJGgZP+xAIovF9UYFJVrA+rhAFqq191G9j3eqvVW1CwSCfJewgT t0rzUqp6781R/apB9jslHvse1pp8lLq7rxy/E6u9b89DXjeGO0jUcuwB5XkIG9Jhq/ CSrTfMoTlZVWSBcPh0uC52ueT04Z2XKDpFNmdx6k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5112c16256e6 Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm changing the topic a bit here, but I had my original radiator re-cored with a thicker core and no crank hole, only because I fitted a gear-reduction starter motor and thought the new starter would be reliable enough that I would not need the hole in the radiator. I always kept the cooling system well-flushed and full of fresh coolant. The engine now runs much cooler, but I have also incorporated a high-output water pump from TRF, which is a brilliant product in my opinion. My understanding is that aluminium radiators not only cool better but last much longer. I am delighted with the cooling aspects of my re-cored non-aluminium radiator and I am hoping that, with the mileages and care that our vehicles are subjected to, an aluminium one may not be necessary. Tim TR3A TS22930LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 15:00:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D36B40434 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:00:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6742B40551 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:23:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 -0000 Received: from [212.82.109.129] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 85523 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1359573522; bh=4U88+3CQLtxh19P7sSqe7/6tiJpElUqNYNo8J27mM/w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jA9BCMmrQQIxVq0C8zTjrvxxQCxTJoGD5z8KvPsWB31uBwqbHoErEzRIBNrdHmlS5zAoehKwf7JBG7euYlHvCAhEjLZFX5/g7yOpFlhpMCOt+lvSSxj6Wq7O8glby5t3WpRy8MppRn9+3Dcebzo7Oq2E7029+FUBHnx8n6wTdEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ooCcWG7timJo0xlAIF/6bY6XLtbsUzTfGAzYhOwsEuLnlHHUIWy0tRLxdZ2sFtDw7v6jnxCfd/8QHytsa+2fpValCVvEzyNelI9Ki3i/CEAgjXfc4O2ALHpF4v/oFuhjfVGRwrRiEwLkxL1BYnh6MIRqBzX8IgkAgasSAul+4Fo= ; 4fj7Hekj0Ji.TKg1EjNA5C5ndlSADQU9B4QoE704jRgF3pNsEW.6yhGjpcrQ iF9f23_0nDwNgPTC5mwbCRwz4hEOFnPkh6lnkEQ.j77dN8srIp673hkWRs6M zMmyijcrpZyFeDDU27abG8bW.B.Zh0OSaJoXhuWsq4ZQ6g5Qxr9ulGPLL_5M sR1FDNUiE73f5QRzMl7G4Uon02Ctuog3SfhkREBzxaz9IOHsdkitXsbeeCJo LuKl2L8eDWuZy61lnxscMHnHim6o5B3yGJNx.CF9kj5rZSBdbuc7_NRuEb0k 7qOKhoAs9tqjfAnFV.v2TR9gQOAJhuGoKqqpzF94xTasS6tRqyreugYMuPCi uNjIuLlm8pq3jHnOdadraEWgzednm5nlleXxfyVGG4w-- Received: from [90.199.100.51] by web171905.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 GMT TXkgc2luY2VyZSBhcG9sb2dpZXMgdG8gZXZlcnlvbmUgd2hvIHJlY2VpdmVkIGEgdmlydXMgLyB3b3JrIC8gVHJvamFuIEhvcnNlIGZyb20gbWUgb3ZlciB0aGUgbGFzdCAyNCBob3Vycy4gSSd2ZSBubyBpZGVhIHdoZXJlIGl0IGNhbWUgZnJvbSBidXQgbG9va2luZyBhdCBhIGZldyBwb3N0cywgaXQgc2VlbXMgSSBtYXkgbm90IGJlIHRoZSBvbmx5IG9mZmVuZGVyPwpGb3IgbXkgcGFydCwgSSd2ZSBydW4gbXkgdmlydXMgY2hlY2tlciB0aHJvdWdoIG15IHdob2xlIHN5c3RlbSBhbmQgY2hhbmdlZCBteSBlbWEBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:18:42 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Apologies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My sincere apologies to everyone who received a virus / work / Trojan Horse from me over the last 24 hours. I've no idea where it came from but looking at a few posts, it seems I may not be the only offender? For my part, I've run my virus checker through my whole system and changed my email password. Hopefully that will sort things out? Apologies once again. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 15:14:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDB140553 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:14:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9690400A4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:03:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 78FD61C00009A; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dsc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.81]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4A4D1E00008D; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:58:26 -0500 (EST) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Full-name: KingsCreekTrees Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:58:25 -0500 (EST) To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360187906; bh=55iu2y4WEYT1/tidt5lEgdaivJxkNe/Va+SX4oDdovI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wdyj0Lu6Lh05pQNHiqjqpRPervAFCAJN82v9iesjYHTNJ1L/TBWdCt3PADPvg6wGm CN/6GaF7/turybw5/vj2kRlCSqpv6ODyOZCqZQmdhk8baQfj+25Zj33E9bfZt8HtT3 QakJRDtKiAWFQdeZxdrscWTZPdifOHtAZLpXynF8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85112d2020d6e Subject: Re: [TR] Apologies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It happens to the best of us. In fact, it happened to me about a year ago. You're definitely not the worst "offender" (wrong word, in my opinion). If you've changed your password, it's probably sorted. Tim In a message dated 06/02/2013 4:55:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: My sincere apologies to everyone who received a virus / work / Trojan Horse from me over the last 24 hours. I've no idea where it came from but looking at a few posts, it seems I may not be the only offender? For my part, I've run my virus checker through my whole system and changed my email password. Hopefully that will sort things out? Apologies once again. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 15:30:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD9B40434 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:30:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway15.websitewelcome.com (gateway15.websitewelcome.com [67.18.44.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326A2403EC for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:22:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 4788F6F541AD5; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:16:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway15.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C15F6F541AA2 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:16:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U3DIU-0004eP-4W for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:16:54 -0600 Received: from 208.87.137.231 ([208.87.137.231]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:16:54 -0600 References: <1cfae.64dc40bb.3e425b77@cs.com> <020701ce03a4$b7d5b900$27812b00$@com> <597fa4903fa16692c0f9555cd71bca9c.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> <8CFD21B34E4415B-860-25ED1@webmail-m182.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:16:54 -0600 From: "Lee Daniels" To: triumphs@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 with any abuse report /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php Subject: Re: [TR] TR wheel bolt pattern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I have lost the list of cars that the wheels share the Triumph 4 on 4 1/2 > bolt pattern. Does anyone have that list handy? I remember 6 cylinder Ford > Mustang on that list. I have a moderately comprehensive list here: http://www.automate-it.com/lee/WheelApplicationChart.pdf sorted by # bolts and bolt circle. It covers approx. 1960 - 1990. Lee ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 16:23:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE0440532 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:23:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f49.google.com (mail-da0-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AA8403D7 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:18:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f49.google.com with SMTP id t11so868275daj.8 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:13:16 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5AFhmuzE/NPgXe91F+eauB+nHZlLScgIMVcsSTyBnGQ=; b=RUCg2h+VfH8WNsdCkArcXrMQP8syrrgk2OER3kOH4yoW/Ol19rQbO8CKeeGIh5yTcI RrhGe4Sgr4XgK4h4a1OgPq2ckps7BXl5AUe5873upd/oHRCvOdiQq8Qc+iEnPulALC9b /HmNgFhd6bizjOLCrglWTS2hMD1KENwJNJuNuVcxs6mr2G8TgxYa4OmW6euL3hVtcgiR pofMaJCTDN6HcPUd327bmlALd2uIDKQPYSO17vWNh9c8NZQZ2rVeQhbp0pCpfyV/OWHr 25jckMbbEniTXtvnsE21U6mwzTdsVsvpAi2Extxrx9Ik6KNgR9C1Lmvn6yQ8DkLhw9Ov wIhg== k8mr79544620pay.56.1360192396694; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm4508391paz.17.2013.02.06.15.13.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:13:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:13:09 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <7a71.c8f0328.3e441b62@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TR] aluminum radiators Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/6/13 1:47 PM, KingsCreekTrees@aol.com wrote: > My understanding is that aluminium radiators not only cool better but last > much longer. I am delighted with the cooling aspects of my re-cored > non-aluminium radiator and I am hoping that, with the mileages and care that our > vehicles are subjected to, an aluminium one may not be necessary. > It helps aluminum radiators if you install a sacrificial anode, make sure you have a very good ground strap between the engine and frame that has clean tight connections and use the correct antifreeze. Now that I have been reminded, I have a used brass TR3 radiator sitting in the garage for the past 3 years that was re-cored with a thicker core that is not partially blocked by a starter hole. It has spent 5 or 6 years on the car before it was removed and put in the garage. As I remember it was in good dirty condition. Anyway it is looking for a new home. If anyone is interested please contact me. It is located in Flagstaff just off of I-40. Any proceeds to go to my side curtain rebuilding fund. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 17:33:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA7E40E2F for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:33:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFA5403F6 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:29:40 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ycbVy2QcHP0A:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=vaSIwvMeeRSNAKT6rkAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=fecXxnoC4hcA:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:51224] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 85/D9-22260-D24F2115; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:24:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:24:13 -0500 From: Randall To: Triumph List , John Macartney Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Apologies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- John Macartney wrote: > For my part, I've run my > virus checker through my whole system and changed my email password. Hopefully > that will sort things out? No apology necessary, John. We know you didn't do it. But this does seem to be happening with distressing frequency, only to those who use Yahoo and att.net. If you want to be certain it's sorted, you might want to consider using another email provider. I don't necessarily recommend Google mail, but out of dozens of these messages I've seen, not one has come from a Gmail account. On the other hand, now that they are getting a worldwide reputation for letting hackers in, perhaps Yahoo will finally do something about their security. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 6 17:48:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE0740520 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:48:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AC2403F6 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:42:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eb20so2050992lab.3 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:37:12 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y7mY0VkPpNlFSKMWYB+m45fAXOM2TlLJzD7p+r7zeTk=; b=JYlUKaYLPdTE0Sq4EhTkC4WE0uG8m0s+fAjqm/xQ2Gms2mBfFDNng3EcUG8ePQ3IE0 4D9QfG4NQiEWPpaVnOjfS973yO0tnFAlM1pGGOsuAxAA38vVugL0/qgola/2dp6wWMYT rqClmZZm3QrkBJuBmHk+yDMaBK7JUObIqHVxSXbQOvFQz2MLGmBdSCueEL5lqN0sGCni ztr+PUaCVl1uJCRjb8Q1eP392DoEmq1fLym9d7yHI+f8hPfXUZkV+cNld19t77jTSko1 JsaTYOf1y8q3pK1wJ6NwQQ9TdATU7lBmzQNrWV4w8KHjBtu8Enx6iXHfaKxbp6Dw3UsV adYQ== o10mr7002903lbk.23.1360197431917; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.61.5 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 16:37:11 -0800 (PST) References: <1359573522.71349.YahooMailNeo@web171905.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130207002413.9T4EJ.10686.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:37:11 -0500 From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Apologies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good point. I *will* recommend Gmail to anyone thinking about it. I've been a user since the start (when one had to be invited to open an account) and it's a superb email service. Don On Wednesday, February 6, 2013, Randall wrote: > ---- John Macartney > wrote: > > For my part, I've run my > > virus checker through my whole system and changed my email password. > Hopefully > > that will sort things out? > > No apology necessary, John. We know you didn't do it. > > But this does seem to be happening with distressing frequency, only to > those who use Yahoo and att.net. If you want to be certain it's sorted, > you might want to consider using another email provider. I don't > necessarily recommend Google mail, but out of dozens of these messages I've > seen, not one has come from a Gmail account. > > On the other hand, now that they are getting a worldwide reputation for > letting hackers in, perhaps Yahoo will finally do something about their > security. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 16:01:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A23C40E34 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:01:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0495640525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:00:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.96.240]) by p3plsmtpa11-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xav41k00A5BAirq01av57V; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:55:05 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:55:11 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4FhcA24Mgcw/GXTPWeCQzGKA+vtA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Triumph Carburetors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know the TR3s used the SU H 6 carb and the TR250 and 6 used Strombergs, but what did the TR4 and 4A use? I am thinking of building a faster-than-my-other TR3A, and think I can get more out of SU HS 6s than I can out of SU H 6s. I have Webers on my TR250 and don't want to go there. All that dyno stuff... What does the list think of H6 vs HS6? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 16:16:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E4540E54 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:16:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.177.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 514E740525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:13:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.191] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:08:15 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.192] by tm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:08:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:08:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360278495; bh=RMJxHpxWhfw/o7JotVJ7BuiTVeZkxE6LKN7Jr9Gaj48=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=GVmS1jsGQc81RS0jV5VHjHQx9mBo6/GswuUfQXb+6YX0khCsbNQmLM76+lqterCCzM5L4soobr/H7k4BVNWsxZ3ardACsYaHVoJNfyKTFfF2GBWN1QwISeVXJRrWl2O8RE+ntBUbD9MHexSQ5VUkiyRHLXm6Q63cqVkOetsfqww= qVLfbPB02xUryfrBt1jm94XXyc.eMBPf4KZgb0lo4G2_PTU7SI.oMPOKh3SQ xFJdYax64JMsg3waqJdqqcfMCQO46zgktIxKjJV5aOW_SPJ_eV3erREPjuqV gfODzzhItp__tyO9eHWge0z6GkmB_dtji2i1KfOcTpUwxglVXXbpL6dBMpSh G1.7trpiOs.qHexRU8KKtS19oa8KK2S0JsUIxaiR268rf6fRRkXki4o5PKGj qvP42HaNXLg95_vsZyM7OK39hD5RcOq8pkC1YydGX_R4sTVvoM23_LfPPJm5 Gde2xAhaGWQQ2QMSU74vd4NuB7YWAwT4JhxPRYnSaJtBz1vQoT2uJagPIjDE uBGWkZgEXzFeN1xzD7UP1QDf2zZDAhzNhHWs.rXxdHXRe_PVGrs.BowjAH_V RG3aRQf0hdWXdiO3r149TmVKEN2XjVmerVx.rZJ_hprKdEDfOY_.o2DR1dQ6 5rTs34wHrx7JgYCpoNaV1U7rKqy9QFsZPQSaESyM- Received: from [10.227.135.38] (wbeech@166.147.69.27 with plain) by smtp203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Feb 2013 15:08:15 -0800 PST References: <033801ce0586$30087420$90195c60$@uprichard.net> From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:08:11 -0600 To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Carburetors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, >From what I have seen on the list TR4-A ran the progression from H6 to HS6 to Z175. I have always run H6 carbs so can't advise on the best for max profit nance. Sent from mobile Bill On Feb 7, 2013, at 4:55 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" wrote: I know the TR3s used the SU H 6 carb and the TR250 and 6 used Strombergs, but what did the TR4 and 4A use? I am thinking of building a faster-than-my-other TR3A, and think I can get more out of SU HS 6s than I can out of SU H 6s. I have Webers on my TR250 and don't want to go there. All that dyno stuff... What does the list think of H6 vs HS6? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 16:32:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677CB40525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:32:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.172.220.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D52403D0 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:32:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (75-175-70-220.ptld.qwest.net [75.175.70.220]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MHV00E6KIG2DV80@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:26:32 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-07_09:2013-02-07,2013-02-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1212290000 definitions=main-1302070249 From: Darrell Walker Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:26:26 -0800 References: <033801ce0586$30087420$90195c60$@uprichard.net> To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Carburetors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I know the TR3s used the SU H 6 carb and the TR250 and 6 used Strombergs, > but what did the TR4 and 4A use? I am thinking of building a > faster-than-my-other TR3A, and think I can get more out of SU HS 6s than I > can out of SU H 6s. I have Webers on my TR250 and don't want to go there. > All that dyno stuff I think a single HD8 will give you the best performance, Moss has a nice adapter kit: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=100964 :-) -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 17:03:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAE040E3F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:03:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB3F40525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:57:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.98.164]) by p3plsmtpa09-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xbrb1k00F3YoDc601brcyK; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:51:37 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Darrell Walker'" References: <033801ce0586$30087420$90195c60$@uprichard.net> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:51:42 -0500 Thread-Index: AQJ+lDCRiuRX0x9vtMRp/rhy5royzAHYz3YWlv8sywA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Carburetors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ok - we're on the cost versus performance curve here: otherwise known as the college tuition versus TR restoration, or supercharger versus staying happily married............ -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Walker [mailto:darrellw360@mac.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:26 PM To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Carburetors On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I know the TR3s used the SU H 6 carb and the TR250 and 6 used > Strombergs, but what did the TR4 and 4A use? I am thinking of > building a faster-than-my-other TR3A, and think I can get more out of > SU HS 6s than I can out of SU H 6s. I have Webers on my TR250 and don't want to go there. > All that dyno stuff. I think a single HD8 will give you the best performance, Moss has a nice adapter kit: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=100964 :-) -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 17:03:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB2440E25 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:03:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030B440525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:02:29 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=XsZmavYKK2gA:10 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=WewfOCcveogrdxZSxDoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Xy_FUz828SIA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:35401] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 06/D4-22260-A4F34115; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 23:56:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:56:58 -0500 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Andrew Uprichard Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph Carburetors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I know the TR3s used the SU H 6 carb and the TR250 and 6 used Strombergs, > but what did the TR4 and 4A use? Early TR4 used H6, same as TR3. Later TR4 through middle TR4A used non-emissions ZS carbs, then late TR4A used SU HS6 carbs. The HS6 supposedly flow the best on a flow bench, but I understand the difference is almost unnoticeable on a dyno. The carbs don't appear to be the limiting factor until significant other modifications are made. If you really want low restriction, go to port injection and lose the venturi (which has to present some restriction to function) altogether. > I am thinking of building a > faster-than-my-other TR3A, and think I can get more out of SU HS 6s than I > can out of SU H 6s. I have Webers on my TR250 and don't want to go there. > All that dyno stuff... Unfortunately, those significant other modifications I mentioned are going to have the same effect : the stock needles won't be appropriate any more. You're still going to need to do some development to get the mixture right; although you might be able to do most or even all of it on the road with a wide band O2 meter or perhaps a 4 channel EGT meter. I haven't tried it myself yet, but I understand that "laptop dyno" works pretty good as well if you have a road to try things out on without attracting the attention of the local gendarmes. Or perhaps your cousin Daryl could help. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:30:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D91040E9F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:30:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from relay12.bu.edu (relay12.bu.edu [128.197.27.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E8740690 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:29:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from BU-AUTH (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay12.bu.edu (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r18FNEfs020899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:23:15 -0500 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:23:10 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4GEDPmGNIKrh9TRuWAZIvc5vsDfg== Subject: [TR] off topic question about 1993 Oldsmobile Sierra cutlass Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listmates, My daughter is driving the above-referenced vehicle. It has less than 80K on it but is quite rusty underneath. Not unsafe as far as mechanics can tell. She's been told that the fuel pump died and the shop wants close to $800 to fix it. I guess its inside the fuel tank. Would it be possible to add an electric fuel pump somewhere else and leave the dead one in the tank? Which pump? Where should it go? The old tank runs well and she drives it around the Boston area so who wants a nice car in the nasty city? She can't afford one and neither can I anyhow. Thanks, Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:59:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD5040E96 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:59:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB67403E4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:49:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so3432405vea.1 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=23aT7sDhcw9JCEESzjvfJUtCHymHlTan8haKFEDA/uc=; b=nmLRpXNn4rZMixWqf9mCn4+10Hq6zhVsHXS3AUjO9Xk/I0BOilrGLSqXSG8N2IQlXa aPD+pWFmghYu09KNspNv70DTN3PCq7Gq6iPlL4Cpp19dHIwDVF+2JKK5Kx+zzVSnerzR pCzMtQ1QLrfJZqXHhFnglTfH8jPqAi/e8cdqut9czFBx+kOWzaQYzsi5an1JF8LyW+Mz WyvjuxwhYUkrlS/cdKU/xP5KYjtjyLYsp6IXF6vhgS8R0lRjcwHN+w01Lgx/J2zuYhKs eJU1oMq5Cc/QmyQSiEx9rqrmg9Whz4m+nYgbahB8ZdF6FH1Nrd9XAoqDJXLVr/RTmCD4 W4VA== pz5mr7316009vec.30.1360338215268; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.117.9 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:43:35 -0800 (PST) References: <001c01ce0610$346068e0$9d213aa0$@edu> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:43:35 -0700 From: Jody Kerr To: "Ron L'Herault" Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] off topic question about 1993 Oldsmobile Sierra cutlass Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think you can install an inline pump. The pump in that car is for FI and it draws up. An external inline would require gravity feed from a surge tank of some sort. The cost here is primarily in labor. It's not necessarily a tough job, just an annoying one. :) On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote: > Listmates, > > My daughter is driving the above-referenced vehicle. It has less than 80K > on it but is quite rusty underneath. Not unsafe as far as mechanics can > tell. She's been told that the fuel pump died and the shop wants close to > $800 to fix it. I guess its inside the fuel tank. Would it be possible > to add an electric fuel pump somewhere else and leave the dead one in the > tank? Which pump? Where should it go? The old tank runs well and she > drives it around the Boston area so who wants a nice car in the nasty city? > She can't afford one and neither can I anyhow. > > Thanks, > > Ron L > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jodyfkerr@gmail.com -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 11:16:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC22140EAC for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:16:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6192840E6B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:06:32 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=g1YJfHSYqwIA:10 a=DkvaMsQ4LXJIk5NyiZYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:64086] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 00/F7-22260-95D35115; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:00:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:00:57 -0500 From: Randall To: Ron L'Herault , Triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] off topic question about 1993 Oldsmobile Sierra cutlass Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'd try a different shop. I had the pump done on my 95 Buick and the charge including the pump was under $500 just a couple of years ago. In my case though, they discovered that the tank was bad as well. Had to scour the country to find one, and it wound up being another $500 with shipping. Might be worth a try installing an in-line pump. The in-tank pump is probably the same as mine, and it is a centrifugal design, so I would think that an external pump would be able to suck enough fuel through it and the pick up screen. Be sure to get a pump that will deliver at least 40 psi, though. Install close to the tank and down as low as possible, to make it easier for it to suck enough fuel. I don't recall offhand if my Buick has a return line or not. If your daughter's Olds doesn't have one, you'll probably have to add one. The reason they put the pumps inside the tank is to keep them cool, but an external pump is cooled by the fuel flowing through it. With nearly no fuel flowing at idle, the pump may heat the fuel enough to cause vapor lock. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:51:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1EC40EDF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:51:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68CA40EA0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:51:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E384E1C0000D6 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dbc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.48.197]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id ADB97E00008A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:45:56 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 99.173.24.75 by webmail-m141.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.27) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:45:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:45:56 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360352756; bh=AX4LgbegdcznqcmflODBDk6T9yo5xVdArkFXyHPhVAI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tMsSwG41HnmOocSAHxAcNRNwDAqg3ErCc1JCRIDpvhYj3yvK1fcjki2OtLb64pSi9 DfeWw72wtdFYztBV4Y2SNfnwTMpl9rB3e4zN4LWz2kQTZ2N1SxLGi5PdOZ1KNXdnBD H1bbMI9PoDG79jPEtNFjzxl9ElX92sKl6/bG0n2I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7511555f46461 Subject: Re: [TR] non-TR fuel pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, Only as a point of reference, 3 years ago I bought an aftermarket in-tank fuel pump for $95 and brought it to a neighborhood car repair shop and they charged $190 to install it - and the gas tank is buried under trunk area on my '88 TBird here in CA. $285 total cost. Good luck, Carl '63 TR4 since '74 (with original primer-levered fuel pump!) My daughter is driving the above-referenced vehicle. It has less than 80K on it but is quite rusty underneath. Not unsafe as far as mechanics can tell. She's been told that the fuel pump died and the shop wants close to $800 to fix it. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 11:40:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5109C406B5 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 11:40:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCB340413 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 11:40:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yJWq1k0030SCNGk58Jaq1V; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:34:50 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yJaq1k00P2ymm843VJaqcD; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:34:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: triumph list , Friends of Triumph s=q20121106; t=1360434890; bh=vlDF7VbjSxFocV7hOywVM/5tC4xUMJMk4zvx/dNXIdM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=fVBoqaXmtx0tuy+7yEA817oSVBimLZwKhMgvB2buE5ZtRzhbrI+6daaRBOmxHpc// GdaJTfJSGRF9p/iMqOz5HtioMJ0SNEwErMM0bCEz85DYRtQ5qre1XQvy+N8u14RcpM Wz4jSKRrKEVvzTgXrAEeCAu9aVfA2YigSVWmAkMuNFdx5IiJ/iWMxIhAE8SRThEaNs OrKRxPdad9nMFY2BWEfFkcV7z6EP2UeJV+04X2VJEIjf/Kte1shZ7zgFxMXFFaMAwb w1bia2RCat4d7/d6NYzLFXY8QcC9FllbrYfbMpETnbgKo77lhcHEuWGvPjQ0fK0P94 BIuPfcWD6/gSw== Subject: [TR] TR6 seat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have a nice pair of TR6 seat tracks/mounting brackets they'd part with? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 16:02:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2889440432 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:02:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AE24042E for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 15:54:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yMuo1k00127AodY59NoWFL; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:48:30 +0000 Received: from [10.255.206.72] ([174.229.193.107]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yNoK1k0132KVlvy3fNoPe9; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:48:28 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?dHJpdW1waCBsaXN0?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:48:28 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1360450110; bh=b7luxakFALGY4UE3wm/s1JNVxecGN92jxhBQSmTpxg8=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HO57hYHIUplX8SYQNZw5qz1zZAukq/TNJZyVu88RIP7pTt3FiamVqxbhM2ijqnCUZ RXBwZlDbo+5UxvsdmTL/XhVmjClBsY9bz6ui6qns9Wr65c/ReE9SjDmYcWdv8jsjP2 fI9dsXH/hZj+U6d/HdnBv+kwQ2dRwqh0NI2/C6TGKOH1hBhchpbjC7qRcJZqkuDH5z fClVHIeAUTvmfCF6QWHdevWoY05dhfnioTSyXwR93pIHqLW5Qb6JNkifwUowQb0bCH I2DOG0XRX44PVmVnuDNafamtFyJ4e+ldTBN1Jl2JxjfUN+1bUsDegdWJ4RA0ihMWPw lkeEJv8OfDljw== Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Tr4_starter?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, I got a reduction starter for a early TR4 when the old starter began to head south again...figured it was lighter and quieter. It's pretty loud, and when the engine lights there's a pretty pronounced sound as the bendix disengages. I had thought it was a case of an old ring gear, but the reduction engages from the front. I also wondered if the starter gear was shimmed improperly causing it to not fully engage. Any ideas? Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: "triumph list" , "Friends of" , <>> Subject: [TR] TR6 seat Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 12:34 Anyone have a nice pair of TR6 seat tracks/mounting brackets they'd part with? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 16:03:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A7440E43 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:03:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F7E540E5D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:32:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 11:26:30 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.121] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 11:26:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 11:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 30929 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 11:26:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360322789; bh=Tmt/ug92J0t7CbhqFdshD9a95dxW3AdpTxQ1BzMKMJI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qmSI4XtQuRQX4qNlAOHDXxCSVdGmwprWA9o0+nZ6e7M+mvzNOr4KPqXFTXxoib/I4ZjoDR9B6EPwCbTMtWVG2rwHdP0ITUPxLjoirXQjhtVoiCjR80iFoQS4+9lQ6XzfGdMl+KMm58MesvlmbDLOEiZixskCNlTzAqqTmCV7390= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G923CvN7P2+9lbDB/YmNQ12yIq6ZkxutAp6ub4lufDj06kxn1WlXefEfHt8oGtY4TIx4i8c2BBi68f5DfCSqK6qAI4KLpc0hNT/m6+s1GqUQnXsJQpx1T17wttCro6i/Rm0NP2hmmJun2VOoV9rGaZanr4BjgxzBKN0gCWPdMEM=; eOs1DjZVz8k0TySf..S8wn0csOVBDp.kNSYGLOwmqRRWdhG_xQxdB1RnmtKD 0HWRw99KlINgHIHlteri3UyJYQLTQkHwOAVsKzLTerEHnr_de6R5B2cW1agl LmPLkOuXvsZjguu4cuShYgcrFpSYKst7ITgnrdZ0te0qW6Q5JNeLjcdfvWXc MJIpQ0aIoCW.dIJMBGWV_XCuvdonogUbJMrStXGihFAWqpN7eHzyoCy12pBe LoJhlsPbl6tstRv4HttSqINDlwJeFqnjxXS3oWxL.DR9nc5cmE2du9hKHBRa vjXB6tGX0RyJFNZ_zoyE5qXdHfYwzVa3lHekJTEyGOh3rmEEsTzLzqBtawFx 1ZXe6o3TIOyGo4RbFLS58AcFu3iX7kk0cDanOcY2fb18- Received: from [90.199.100.192] by web171902.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:26:29 GMT U29ycnkgdG8gJ2JvbWInIGxpc3QgYnV0IGlmIEFsbGFuIFJlaWNoIHJlYWRzIHRoaXMsIGNvdWxkIGhlIHBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0IG1lPyBJJ3ZlIHJlcGxpZWQgdG8gYW4gZW1haWwgaGUgc2VudCBtZSBidXQgaXRzIGJvdW5jZWQgYmFjayBhbmQgSSB1c2VkIHRoZSBhZGRyZXNzIGZyb20gd2hpY2ggaGUgd3JvdGUgdG8gbWUuCgpKb25tYWMBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:26:29 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Calling Allan Reich - British Columbia Triumphs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to 'bomb' list but if Allan Reich reads this, could he please contact me? I've replied to an email he sent me but its bounced back and I used the address from which he wrote to me. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 08:43:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FA64052A for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:43:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B19D40406 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:38:10 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fj20so5033818lab.6 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:32:25 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=wDrIe92b7X+SpoJaCV1YvkOHHOO4JY9VVNP6QiFXXHk=; b=W4yNpavTwzFwtkuJ55rU+M0ZjGWB8R5TRN6D1WL05xbqoqe5JYgAAOOfvXUg/rZnzu PMGj4p9ZmQFDtceRWsYKJoX9O/RiCkD4HoSodp6J6aNSAAeZ6OHkI2jZbCbFZG7IjCb9 J8Dju6QjW/9qbId3LDqqUrx4TpTIclH0sGLXkgL4isDwESWp6tiO0/ds1/WITzA5hGBW +4jey18lAyFaCqUv327YXsJJE/GMmwX4LCFAqBST2RG5I9Bp2T1wQSVXoi3wgAgqe9z9 ZKJi5n0wltWFujgTUgNpqFl3n56n3lZihRvzWaWHDMmWgb3GM5XgRogWvHXsCetKSHHz JBog== fa7mr4603869lbb.28.1360510345515; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:32:05 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] TR4 steering rack - steers and tracks nicely - but steering shaft can move in/out 1/4 inch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Had the 63 TR4 out yesterday for a club Chilli run. Was chilly for sure. Top down for the first half of the ride. Got cloudy and went for comfort for the second half. Even at 70 mph the car tracked and rode nicely. In getting the car ready, I decided to look a little more at the problem with my horn button - It kept falling out. I fiddled with the springs/keeper and snapped it in place. Done! Not Done! I sat in the seat and made Vroom Vroom noises and was steering back and forth and the horn button came out again. I hadn't noticed but when I pull/push on the steering wheel it moves away from the dash 1/4 inch or slightly more -- That movement is enough to push the horn button out. So - Steering wheel is tightly attached. the shaft is moving in and out of the steering gearbox. I guess the thrust washers are gone. But the pics in the book don't look like they are that thick. Has anyone had a similar situation that they were able to effect satisfactory repairs? Or am I in the market for a rebuilt rack? The lack of a horn is enough safety reason to repair now vs later. Thanks Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 10:47:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B7A4053C for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:47:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8A040511 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:39:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ybzt1k0061ZXKqc53hZaBD; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:33:34 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yhZa1k00T2xV5no3hhZa1w; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:33:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:33:34 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Friends of Triumph , triumph list s=q20121106; t=1360517614; bh=3/WgiPSwtX09BrX+zfYZScez0eVYqEtZ1EaO8X3ZKRc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=dzyiG2LDtl090tMZFNXqaLXdHlg9oaPgYGnKGdS9ZpGTp/8x3Ah0qYUUm5+ExthRt HvN/j4ZgxNU+Z4/wUDXK3hUmxzVz5ioZBo1Tu0ncl1EdhiY5cuzXx7rQ/z2khsPuYW +fUeP5cBQM4XpAxSaHlE31tAmPfWXWE2DHyUFp8PVF5TOUaUp1I1cJy+A/4ebXb8tw FFdUQaWpTOuqHR+Bg/ou2ocA/hh7MhhhhzSvqI+zTss1eGhAk+NhFXB6lRut/yHHro rp8QIESK9kJRkDNHfZCXi5tayK7nMyKJ/7k7aKYWV+IHAuqisUxZhlv9UcS5KFnxLJ cu6zxAYrZ1HCQ== Subject: [TR] TR6 seat tracks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, B Found 'em , thanks to these lists. Thanks for all the responses. B Also found that new ones are available from TRF (and perhaps others) for around $80 each. B Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 17:12:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBD840EAA for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:12:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0440697 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:11:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170132pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MI100JO449J2I10@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:05:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from 71.101.255.163 ([71.101.255.163]) by vznit170132 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:05:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:05:43 -0600 (CST) From: Carl TR To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Finally getting around to putting in the OD switch. I must have 20-25 pictures with the switch visible but none that show whether the 'script' faces the driver or the outside. Did the normal search of the internet and found images of both and references to both (as well as the question of whether it is up off or on. The toggle location is on the opposite half of the switch which means that if the script is facing inward, the toggle is on the outer half. Is it just a matter of personal taste? Thanks Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 19:28:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115C240652 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:28:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12B940513 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:27:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.1] helo=mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U4j1t-0003wU-Gw for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:22:01 -0500 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan01.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U4j1s-0005Ma-BE; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:22:00 -0500 Received: from webmail10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.10]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id yqN01k0050D1ajN01qN0B4; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:22:00 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=ee9gyDNwiiIA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AlN0qaX2d27KHtaOS2cA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=0YmFfWKhO/n0x5ScFAFiQg==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U4j1L-0005NI-B7; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:21:27 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:21:27 -0500 References: <1986857.1419869.1360541143613.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:21:27 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Carl TR" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It would make sense to me that the driver be able to read the script. The switch has three teminals inside and can be wired for "ON" in the down position for either mounting, but the dash has a "D" shaped hole with a flat on the bottom that might make the decision for you. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Finally getting around to putting in the OD switch. I must have 20-25 > pictures with the switch visible but none that show whether the 'script' > faces the driver or the outside. Did the normal search of the internet > and found images of both and references to both (as well as the question > of whether it is up off or on. > > The toggle location is on the opposite half of the switch which means that > if the script is facing inward, the toggle is on the outer half. > Is it just a matter of personal taste? > > Thanks > > Carl > 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO > mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a > Tampa, Florida > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 21:30:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5827040513 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:30:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF9440453 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:25:38 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ee9gyDNwiiIA:10 a=y8nbQE_gyEtY9GOI3awA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2E/14-22260-76178115; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:19:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Carl TR'" , Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:19:57 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4H658zjmX/RlkwRg2jf5Um1OETwwAIMGEg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net IMO there is enough confusion over this topic that no one can say with certainty what is "correct". So might as well suit yourself. Just to illustrate the confusion, Piggott clearly shows a switch installed in a RHD car, with the lettering on the right and hence the toggle on the inboard side. The caption mentions that the switch is in the "correct position", but doesn't comment about orientation. However, the photo on page 8 of "Practical Hints" shows the toggle on the outboard side! (on a RHD car of course). Personally, I prefer the toggle on the inboard side as it puts the lever just slightly closer to my fingers; so I don't have to move my hand as far to flip the switch while driving. I think there is no question that down was on, originally. But TS39781LO had it reversed when it came to me, so I kept that arrangement. Even though the original hole in the dash is D-shaped, you can achieve all 4 configurations by removing the 3 screws from the body of the switch and assembling appropriately. The mounting shaft will engage with the case in either orientation, and the wires can be moved to get "on" in either position. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 06:43:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601CA407AD for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:43:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071A140453 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:39:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI200BGP5O6SIM0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:33:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Carl-TR" To: "'Randall'" , References: <1986857.1419869.1360541143613.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> <2E.14.22260.76178115@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:33:20 -0500 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQJ6/edcWItRp8s2vVbAhMj1v0VTb5cauo7Q Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My panel hole is round so it can be mounted sideways if wanted.... (not). I 'played' with how it felt last night. I decided that it felt more natural for the switch to be on the inboard half which means the lettering is facing out. I haven't completed the wiring connections but based on Randall's comments below it can flip either way. Up=on is normal convention in the states so I will go that route - no need confusing this old brain any more than it already is.... Thanks Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ "Sitting in the car - steering wheel in hand - getting so close I can taste it." Tampa, Florida -----Original Message----- From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:20 PM To: 'Carl TR'; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] TR3A OD switch question IMO there is enough confusion over this topic that no one can say with certainty what is "correct". So might as well suit yourself. Just to illustrate the confusion, Piggott clearly shows a switch installed in a RHD car, with the lettering on the right and hence the toggle on the inboard side. The caption mentions that the switch is in the "correct position", but doesn't comment about orientation. However, the photo on page 8 of "Practical Hints" shows the toggle on the outboard side! (on a RHD car of course). Personally, I prefer the toggle on the inboard side as it puts the lever just slightly closer to my fingers; so I don't have to move my hand as far to flip the switch while driving. I think there is no question that down was on, originally. But TS39781LO had it reversed when it came to me, so I kept that arrangement. Even though the original hole in the dash is D-shaped, you can achieve all 4 configurations by removing the 3 screws from the body of the switch and assembling appropriately. The mounting shaft will engage with the case in either orientation, and the wires can be moved to get "on" in either position. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 16:17:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301BF40430 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:17:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5F3403F7 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:17:17 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:17 a=_ZgTX3weOtwA:10 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=BwOnXazkVcwA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3wg2r08VxEvh5LGZR3cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SI64Hy9uxBH7axp3:21 a=SRgxV_kAW2qCo50T:21 a=Qx-H1hSLdhomhq397ZMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=mgNLC7SvOpZS7K7N:21 a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 64.121.239.224 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [64.121.239.224] ([64.121.239.224:49199] helo=[192.168.1.138]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id BC/C5-03470-F9A79115; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:11:27 -0500 From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:11:26 -0500 References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 steering rack - steers and tracks nicely - but steering shaft can move in/out 1/4 inch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think it is the thrust washers or the rack. There are four splined joints between the wheel and the rack (two for each rubber u- joint). This is what I found, also on a '63. For whatever reason, these splines wear and try as you might, you cannot tighten the bolt to clamp the shaft. It will be "good enough" because the bolt passes through a groove in the shaft and the joints won't come apart, but it will be just loose enough to push and pull the steering wheel about a 1/4 inch. I got another joint from a friend that was a little bit better. I don't know what is available new. Allen On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > I hadn't noticed but when I > pull/push on the steering wheel it moves away from the dash 1/4 inch > or > slightly more -- That movement is enough to push the horn button out. > > So - Steering wheel is tightly attached. the shaft is moving in and > out of > the steering gearbox. I guess the thrust washers are gone. But > the pics > in the book don't look like they are that thick. > > Has anyone had a similar situation that they were able to effect > satisfactory repairs? Or am I in the market for a rebuilt rack? > The lack > of a horn is enough safety reason to repair now vs later. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 19:16:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD7640439 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:16:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA7E403DF for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:09:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73154A1025 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:05:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:05:51 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Another note: digests Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've had a couple of test addresses subscribed to this list, digest mode, for a while. No evidence of problems. No dropped issues, formatting the same as it has always been. So as far as I can tell there have been no changes on this end. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 20:32:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB32403F2 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:32:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2801840403 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.233] by nm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.243] by tm14.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 83893 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360591414; bh=DIg+cLVfjbZANQaEH4fOevwzVpuJdzGK2jpQ7M8jn5A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XWOx7015s1WcFdLRjX7TGcmIEBqhR9MPlgcZBSDAOl1jXcMhNMYsMFQ+APUqXOBS7vfq8orTSiCqMdAkea+2TeWVMhpwLPuyA5YpU70+4zhQgA8LT0FwO2b/rY8LIy8+aCzxIYHDZLuJUdiMhdzaQ0gVLfOi6+p0moL1j5QoSkE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ga6vtYfSChyYhU+kaFypgYrS9DJE5O7jXeYik4qp24tWIc2Mj3aVSSWESQXX8o3DsW/232vKQ3kJjja65KO5Rd9X/asaTgru32c6h8EWvFJfF1LD8LsYYfXojLxZozsS9IifjcMzZ00P0jbATi/beSx+bm9exS7tYecxh0jSXAw=; W1o4CKE58LsqYJO8cXjE_TcqU48P8sJ2q405oKLWoWj2Q51RO75.3Er9GKwC 8qEzx0dRD7X24esVLbE6yooUxVycFTFSBXupL8XhrXOHh5eJJgdT1UywaU93 3PemxFaEcNfSJQqqZYryh8fKzmNgeodBnO_nOd0I.E3g5gQ78GIIf8rB.0Qq IJrVdSnVitGbTBGc1yVCxA5.FCrqNVs9nvk11HNOQ27HNZOwcU_5PM_ElY5h 9HZ.OF3UVSGKyb5CGwWrYyC46T7gixnsrzcMOrfcUVN9zE5iVFLcNK3f6qkk V2Rh3O4AvuErpsJANqyRY6xl8FvOLwMDi7inND.MsFd9TAq5ZeuDjJbt7g0t oyU3468xyyXK3asYayUCzrDfozTZL6wFDbf.wx9IpdFT4MlCjE3veU6nm6O1 e3iintZf5nR1cHvTtNwmBHRzl3FAWXf8bNRQ6xkMp50UXtUhHGwnQasLw.6G duQ-- Received: from [90.199.100.81] by web171905.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 GMT U29tZXRpbWVzIHRoZSBtb3N0IG9ic2N1cmUgb2YgcXVlcmllcyBjYW4gYmUgYW5zd2VyZWQgd2l0aCBhYnNvbHV0ZSBjbGFyaXR5LiBSZWZlcnJpbmcgdG8gcmlnaHQgYW5kIGxlZnQgaGFuZCBzdGVlciBzaWRlc2NyZWVuIFRSJ3MgdGhlIG92ZXJkcml2ZSBzd2l0Y2ggYWx3YXlzIGhhZCB0aGUgbGV0dGVyaW5nIG9uIHRoZSAncm9hZCcgc2lkZSBvZiB0aGUgc3dpdGNoLiBBZGRpdGlvbmFsbHksIHRoZSBzd2l0Y2ggd2FzIGFsd2F5cyBtb3ZlZCB1cCB0byBlbmdhZ2UgKGFzIGluIGNoYW5naW5nICd1cCcgYSABMAEBAQE- References: <1986857.1419869.1360541143613.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> <2E.14.22260.76178115@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <025801ce085c$5c175710$14460530$@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:03:34 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: "cfmtr3a@verizon.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sometimes the most obscure of queries can be answered with absolute clarity. Referring to right and left hand steer sidescreen TR's the overdrive switch always had the lettering on the 'road' side of the switch. Additionally, the switch was always moved up to engage (as in changing 'up' a gear). The switch also was moved 'up' to engage overdrive on Vanguard, Ensign, and Standard 10 models. It was only with the introduction of 2000 saloon, TR4 and Herald/Vitesse, that the overdrive stalk was steering nacelle mounted and the switched engagement was 'down' to engage o/d. This obviously continued to later variants whether the o/d switch moved to the gear lever. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Carl-TR To: 'Randall' ; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 13:33 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question >My panel hole is round so it can be mounted sideways if wanted.... (not). > >I 'played' with how it felt last night. I decided that it felt more natural >for the switch to be on the inboard half which means the lettering is facing >out. I haven't completed the wiring connections but based on Randall's >comments below it can flip either way. Up=on is normal convention in the >states so I will go that route - no need confusing this old brain any more >than it already is.... > > >Thanks >Carl >1961 TR3A - TS81802LO >http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ >"Sitting in the car - steering wheel in hand - getting so close I can taste >it." >Tampa, Florida > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Randall [mailto:TR3driver@ca.rr.com] >Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:20 PM >To: 'Carl TR'; triumphs@autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [TR] TR3A OD switch question > >IMO there is enough confusion over this topic that no one can say with >certainty what is "correct". So might as well suit yourself. > >Just to illustrate the confusion, Piggott clearly shows a switch installed >in a RHD car, with the lettering on the right and hence the toggle on the >inboard side. The caption mentions that the switch is in the "correct >position", but doesn't comment about orientation. However, the photo on >page 8 of "Practical Hints" shows the toggle on the outboard side! (on a RHD >car of course). > >Personally, I prefer the toggle on the inboard side as it puts the lever >just slightly closer to my fingers; so I don't have to move my hand as far >to flip the switch while driving. > >I think there is no question that down was on, originally. But TS39781LO >had it reversed when it came to me, so I kept that arrangement. > >Even though the original hole in the dash is D-shaped, you can achieve all 4 >configurations by removing the 3 screws from the body of the switch and >assembling appropriately. The mounting shaft will engage with the case in >either orientation, and the wires can be moved to get "on" in either >position. > >-- Randall > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/macartney.john@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 20:33:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4618A4069D for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:33:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732AD40425 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:25:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:19:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.165] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:19:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 18479 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2013 01:19:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360027195; bh=R2aRQr+3xoHdCkpcpHyY1ar2Z32zM0lf+6IYKZu4MIk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OACm31QZR8EwdZp99QlNMFAsAAymgINusySrKmiJwqcKzhaHFZlyGZdf0TuFoYQw/ZqUQqR40fJUiDLeKPO/wzW6vUdApgQ/qQJ/ZsPyOViyjK2FCK5w1m4fpezw2hZ0TyblBaRYJqTsEU5Jq1Zt72TKHJhvHfs4vQbVeTorp2E= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MNlWn5GvILkV0Vgx+ajB2+wAb2CaFAy4KKQESogradltNnt+y5FvoB2sfO8m6HywVRerbBygJ1pQoztySrJKDZ4RRGgFUcVFX33L6i4XxcXKYcSdPwSfv/OfVivb88QijYqbCp6OU2whd2KMr/QyKn2wxqXdwNMJkCyG2vwmr1E=; S3yKDlnbGTHlR22AHue818gc_QCj5yWA4vw6_XiB4k6fv0jO.rkiES2CyO_M Rt8laltM4QN32LOp6nIaRnmXMYFjHqHKBmphVTprJDivijnweP0uOziZzLex ltPtx29AAc6uUxlM.CSKZXQDrKBOft_DAvlmZzkOgV8mMtiLzhqsBNgwN5Bh 5NeQ8xgcYUQRLUU7BDlY00b6If79R_vG3AGd8nyxU0j6FhFTGKXHteRqzAxX zqKxAVhNL_dYRJmlEKA.rcGEirekWg0AHc8zR84wJvElP3tIwWOCpUjsbNkY 4dO51pZicX0m0FN2xffWUCXOHHdWO9Cp_Bok26lv8OCaxcaFKyYTILuVzyk. R6l0KLeo6v42.BoXuWQ4kzIiZ7E5segn7ilCIPK5s6B7LTsE7_yIyBzHX2Ox orVf8HQYyHsxHogyMBFBAicxYqOPJQ123 Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:19:55 PST d29uZGVyaW5nIGlmIHRoZXJlIGlzIGEgd2F5IHRvIG1lYXN1cmUgInBsYXkiIGluIHVzZWQgd2lyZSB3aGVlbCBhZGFwdG9ycyB3aGVuIGF0dGFjaGVkIHRvIG5ldyB3aXJlIHdoZWVscz_CoCBJIGhhdmUgc29tZSB1c2VkIGFkYXB0b3JzIGFuZCB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIHVzZSB0aGVtIG9uIG5ldyB3aGVlbHMgYnV0IGFtIGF3YXJlIG9mIHRoZSBkYW5nZXIgb2YgZG9pbmcgdGhpcy7CoCBJJ20ganVzdCB3b25kZXJpbmcgaWYgYSBwZXJzb24gY291bGQgbW91bnQgdGhlbSBhbmQgdGhlbiB0ZXN0IHRoZSAicGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 17:19:55 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] wire wheels fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net wondering if there is a way to measure "play" in used wire wheel adaptors when attached to new wire wheels? I have some used adaptors and would like to use them on new wheels but am aware of the danger of doing this. I'm just wondering if a person could mount them and then test the "play" and if that would be a valid test? Has anyone "been there done that"? gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 20:48:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36C14044B for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:48:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219F9403E8 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:42:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2013 03:36:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.6] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2013 03:36:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2013 03:36:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360640202; bh=iuz1NltZipKYgpy13hr1W9w96Wk0mtRfeYurzJHLShg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=jWhV67a3bplEeCdtNqzI1HdwkFpPGsN7zmrGSh702MgSLwLTPeE9/v7hdjv+Z0YQspwh1xzDoV62o6gHzbgFJKf5jk+yQCZJVvgh0FjRMIphI0R6j1fRXHdgoMJK3HeJKUel7ZSp6RGB2kke777bc/CwrzlIYnotwCJZ7dNcGD0= Wk2xX4TEUpKZVkNR0buMTKzb8IEHY84bIZehiFwu3pzW6.2ScNUQPebY8eEo IWvWBI9u4ieDsTQLVA.3xALZumbUhRdoudn4sV5X7L1oHL9fT_pG3_HJhW.5 GNs0e_EknYmFziF1.nOebHHDaCFLSkLThlevt2V7Zsk_kWQlVZJUd5iiW3oD lwkq98pTDhvVCxEeMwQxANUTA_be.f74FkUaSP4IBmicp4S6by7QiHlv9BRx SC8IYDZvwoHAMZSjPYT7p2.nbX.gR.1JV6cSM_CxAOmqCcgVAK1xIWlW3c39 SfQKxEak5ULdmLxSHI1NHJ0DZQ20S1uZF8lL96asaCbwUmbH9_PlR5qnk7el LD8R6PWbabEXTm7YKoRH.3rPrHnZbJELUQDk9qU4CrEn39RCe4Lz.9knmXPM LM90pShKqdmMzcyrQMstRgxd7wuoBrDHcF6DmiM1pdtCXYA.ORVDDVxj.Oka CGZeQoQNL0yEu4Suvr7vzRitk Received: from [10.122.179.10] (wbeech@166.137.145.175 with plain) by smtp106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2013 19:36:42 -0800 PST References: <1360027195.18012.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: WBEECH Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:36:40 -0600 To: Gary Nafziger Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] wire wheels fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No play at all. If an adaptor is used to the point where the splines are worn down and allow play, I would toss them on the scrap pile. Not aware of any process to rebuild one. Sent from mobile Bill On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: wondering if there is a way to measure "play" in used wire wheel adaptors when attached to new wire wheels? I have some used adaptors and would like to use them on new wheels but am aware of the danger of doing this. I'm just wondering if a person could mount them and then test the "play" and if that would be a valid test? Has anyone "been there done that"? gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 20:54:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B864040C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:54:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21538403EA for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:54:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zBN31k0020x6nqcABFoX3y; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:48:31 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zFoX1k00B2yr1eL8YFoXjs; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:48:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:48:31 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Gary Nafziger s=q20121106; t=1360640911; bh=LmOS2CDRlCFwQoyPyjrmmNGNkV20ETWqWtOIivCD3+U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rocpzcaBaZIjJApeX7GFXiXnxC5Zb0br7eVmTiAdRB92pydVrInLD0p0s/bjWrI6u HdvMFouF4hAAqbAi7Liiy1+omPGbFF2IuAwY3okN33ml197qwFXbva859XyzSxpKIg zKOsquNW9aUwQddmUKf9Ex5O7PK8qBOcttn6l+jYSA+mkOOK+U3947Ysgv9eM0Y0dd fj0L7AnHkNWeyk4nk0oYMEdsGQi6kUn73iuQ2dqa2/g27Ng09PxU+sQBqwsKv1q5pW TrO6XYJnrGSzZWOKqApRYIIBxlAXIisIanMr9RicLpXsF5fLonYbar7GOad2AYJmTg oxuPO8HPEprPw== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] wire wheels fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you buy new wheels, buy new splines. You will save money in the long run. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Nafziger" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 7:19:55 PM > Subject: [TR] wire wheels fit > wondering if there is a way to measure "play" in used wire wheel > adaptors when > attached to new wire wheels? I have some used adaptors and would like > to use > them on new wheels but am aware of the danger of doing this. I'm just > wondering if a person could mount them and then test the "play" and if > that > would be a valid test? > > Has anyone "been there done that"? > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 22:05:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEF2403D8 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:05:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC6F403ED for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:00:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hz1so3420928pad.24 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:54:31 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6+2ZTQYHaL+sRurmag+FnWMFtI6aqB0UEkUVJ+8abhA=; b=QBImQNE8iLYzix6eJPZsMGeijILd9Oap9vGhGk9x0sWHkDG8aqaBbOGWLdnb3rLQdc r16UySMUetXaSq+lFdH/Z+pf0LPiV2tel12cjowiBySviP2WGa0edKHEU5bv9lpakA7a PDnHQ6BUM0KPlhZExS8cwlP3smI5ALxRLpnzveYZNn1r3zmGuPapcIqEIga6t20ZyQN8 OeIdj0G+w2o2jipWe7N5IeDbmMvh9ONseHjM1Na+yIhW6QXmVRmkaa3SxzlD16/rp2WP wH64o/kS7t0RpvBr/iyzZ4XvD/S94kZvnjaNDq93Oc248Qc1hSqOnQmPw4ZufBE7DHxn hNAQ== b3mr48502826paz.30.1360644871393; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4sm30508213pax.0.2013.02.11.20.54.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:54:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:54:25 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1360027195.18012.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] wire wheels fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/4/13 6:19 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > wondering if there is a way to measure "play" in used wire wheel adaptors when > attached to new wire wheels? I have some used adaptors and would like to use > them on new wheels but am aware of the danger of doing this. I'm just > wondering if a person could mount them and then test the "play" and if that > would be a valid test? > > Has anyone "been there done that"? > First there should be absolutely no play. Second, the condition of a hub spline can be checked visually. The individual splines on a like new hub do not come to a point. There is a flat area at the top. If the splines come to a sharp point they are badly worn. It the point is tilted a little to one side they are desperately worn. Compare the part of the spline that the wheel does not ride against with the part that engages the wheel and look for wear. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 22:52:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7416740527 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:52:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3964E4040C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:46:15 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ee9gyDNwiiIA:10 a=0PfiqW-xtYzA5aQtAbAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 38/D0-26261-7C5D9115; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:40:23 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 21:40:31 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4I0N+5+zOI+evtSnaCMzX6CEyYoAAEJcIw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A OD switch question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Referring to right and left hand steer sidescreen TR's the > overdrive switch always had the lettering on the 'road' side > of the switch. I'm sure you're right; but how do you explain the photograph in Practical Hints? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 23:13:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233140439 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:13:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295984040C for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:07:17 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=_ZgTX3weOtwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BwOnXazkVcwA:10 a=ha2276DhxfJDPfV2VqQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DE/03-25887-4BAD9115; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:01:24 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:01:32 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4IrTRKj1lpjv1EQeeFjE93lySHswAOQ8kg Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 steering rack - steers and tracks nicely - but steering shaft can move in/out 1/4 inch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > For whatever reason, > these splines wear and try as you might, you cannot tighten the bolt > to clamp the shaft. Hmm. Time to steal a trick from "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 04:30:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15140454 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:30:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFFC40439 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:29:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eb20so6822523lab.17 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:23:31 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=MdyAG1UssLtalOU9jge0uyQgnnmymh+RIdMu1UKwzHM=; b=KmZaoOIBdSalwAvrFUtOytBesplUbsfFrXrWWBA/TGJo653pF0+JFFBruO3wfXrDxq l6z9eE6b+UjnwhuMX7g5bZcdgRV9VNE+TN3Ul1kGuDeGdXw3RKO5RgvOibwtsGi6/g5T MYlUnlqRvFhE4ls32f/7z8GLsjPMbpU3n95e6AFbyqhwpLTa/M5NqkeIRIQ+I3WSXWr7 pffTNbCwmnO/XQh4C1g25QB/jCEI0npcrzQfbT7RqJvhNn8eessC6mVlI0IBv/SrkfkE bT/HVPD71KbKXITgPMistY3+dIobB32oJCYE87Ry5CB66gfuBnjMIo3sFRvp0cR482uc dP/g== fa7mr7088061lbb.28.1360668210777; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 03:23:10 -0800 (PST) References: <6D00562B-4082-4894-8659-2557DA2FADDC@mgcarclub.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:23:10 -0500 To: Allen Hess Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 steering rack - steers and tracks nicely - but steering shaft can move in/out 1/4 inch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just rechecked. The shaft is definitely moving in and out of the the steering rack. The joints are solid. Thanks for the response, just the same - someone in the future with a similar problem will find your answer in the archives. All the best, Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 06:32:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73CF4051C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:32:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EE34041A for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:32:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 775281C000050 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moa004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.13]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4D2D9E00008A for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:26:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:26:26 -0500 (EST) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360675586; bh=yxFSpyYvuPsuZFFOTGkmIsae8upHN8l0w2HlAVdGwF0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XFl3wRBeqELX0wG3NG7OYmbXXw1mkGr3hwDYZwfLNC2Y6MRiHXC5/gS80FvGpUMzo Yb2zL4QRbeWcR/PdWZVXP0KxWE1RaZEiCyeqh+ZhzMWdd9hw5otghR5+Em2j25Gck+ BZWCAGHyvts/ie+MPQq1Ou5VsTlucMU0vHL786Zg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c511a43024e7a Subject: Re: [TR] Team.Net notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Or... we could delete all other recipients leaving the list as the sole recipient, as I do. A habit I picked up from when the listserve was not smart enough to delete duplicates. Just my opinion. Dave Massey In a message dated 2/11/2013 7:58:01 PM Central Standard Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > One thing I have done to counteract the recent flurry of hijacked email > addresses > sending bad stuff through the the list is change the list settings for > number of > allowed recipients. Most of them include at least half a dozen or so > addresses, > maybe more, in each message as they go through the victim's address list. > > I've lowered the limit to 3. While this will stop a fair amount of the > bad stuff > from getting sent to the lists, it will also delay some legitimate > messages. > If folks send off nested replies with many recipients their mail will be > held, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 09:06:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B11C40542 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:06:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAE340411 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so228478lab.9 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:54:00 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=AjvJJrVefw2DW2WM5Z1b5N+I11Cq8NFjZ9xHJhkdt2k=; b=agOlzsRVQSuFgNvHwS6C63pah0hwsnDyVDf1+1C8/s/M+fML9gN2D4HyEbCyfyEDX1 NTM+Bvmpec0MZ8eQsoANWvaJ4KlMtoJbkga7LGl1oJUD39y9a7BGzqPRkWeIGr8Qwb+I vuHvyEloAe84kOSgbxqzon+RXfUYMwNV5EmNl0XwgpR/TV2FgSU4GRN7urT2ocnvvglX o217pQL8468h9v2OTHTt8ptksVKHbP83gKHhiNVvj7HYBNdrHmoUbu0Se9tFUqrdPKH/ yhFJYg/kleFnFb1VVuWYmlHyAtt638+hMKgLq4xxPd5VQnyay6y8IKj+ILd86wWlxGr3 D7Gg== y7mr492707lbk.12.1360684439837; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:53:39 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org? My club site is hosted by VTR and it's down as well. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 09:23:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5314407AC for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:23:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC02403EE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:18:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (69.0.52.101.adsl.snet.net [69.0.52.101]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpjc-1U5IT11Oi0-000Ejm; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:12:25 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Chris Simo" , "list Triumph" References: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:12:23 -0500 Yl7Bxw1y5ZP04JqnzTQFyjqb9Yy84u3gVwauepz3dPeZWUutKR L4WFD6y6hajByNZlWoLpaCoDbAUA2ZVlR2KKUZWoP5GoKKg3c1 j19iqz1ENyzGrs2n0i8MPqbuug2doegzWvxEp6FUuP0/ifksmE Zj6lyWX7tQzpwpeegrpk2ybOOCOpS4Fx5Kt69ip7S4kta5MNA9 jgkhJv1nP0Q7Yefi7jGNzhGesRcTuJy560+Aw17pYRZ/4I1ylN NdknQnhcsfJe9zaKZr5fAr1SB4i00Ycp3V1hgReKbqOtvY/j1L Q/fWxpdsyOuUOtpEQlrw7kuj/MzWSw1JcwXc8MCNk Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Can't get to it either....... -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:53 AM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] VTR.Org down? Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org? My club site is hosted by VTR and it's down as well. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 09:24:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18F340563 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:24:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC16C403EE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:20:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EC8B538000090; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mhb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.187.195]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AB882E000090; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:14:44 -0500 (EST) References: To: ccsimonsen@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 149.10.144.120 by webmail-d160.sysops.aol.com (205.188.252.86) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:14:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:14:43 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360685684; bh=gWyEjkb6mFbihPqV7+tRSsPlvvOPwlI02W6UcbWdFGw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ugsVfmOLtjF/9URyWV7ivq/XnAc7D52r88k2LzLODe/p3tqgoc80ICENGHG8GVnXt ZXVhkB4oSOUmz6tE/g33hL14ek1gD1fxerVZnPajsR6m1TkT5D5qcjo9RIoeui2/7j napYQEzv6uv1GgTGuXOSQm+5rkk7dIOQqJrdmdYg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c511a6a74787f Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not working for me at the moment, either (said moment being 11:15 a.m., EST, Tuesday 2/12/13). --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2013 11:00 am Subject: [TR] VTR.Org down? Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org?mphs/zoboherald@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 10:38:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207D540547 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:38:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway13.websitewelcome.com (gateway13.websitewelcome.com [69.56.148.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E914040C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:34:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by gateway13.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 519F94C290912; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:28:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway13.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433B34C2908E2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:28:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Jem-0003YI-Ug; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:28:36 -0600 Received: from 184.169.163.153 ([184.169.163.153]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:28:36 -0600 References: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:28:36 -0600 From: "Lee Daniels" To: "Chris Simo" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 with any abuse report /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well it's not completely dead, the server does respond to a ping: ------------------------------------------------------------ Pinging vtr.org [69.174.114.172] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Ping statistics for 69.174.114.172: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 36ms, Maximum = 37ms, Average = 36ms ------------------------------------------------------------ Also, the domain name is paid up through Sep. 24, 2014. May be just a hiccup in the http server on that machine. More info below: Domain ID:D2520-LROR Domain Name:VTR.ORG Created On:25-Sep-1995 04:00:00 UTC Last Updated On:16-Aug-2012 14:28:12 UTC Expiration Date:24-Sep-2014 04:00:00 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR) Registrant ID:CR37341030 Registrant Name:bob bownes Registrant Organization:web9 Registrant Street1:8 ribbon candy lane Registrant City:troy Registrant State/Province:New York Registrant Postal Code:12182 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.5182378573 Registrant Email:bownes@web9.com Admin ID:CR37341032 Admin Name:bob bownes Admin Organization:Seiri Admin Street1:8 ribbon candy lane Admin City:troy Admin State/Province:New York Admin Postal Code:12182 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.5182378611 Admin Email:bb261@web9.com Tech ID:CR37341031 Tech Name:Domain Registrar Tech Organization:Register.Com Tech Street1:575 8th Avenue Tech Street2:11th Floor Tech City:New York Tech State/Province:New York Tech Postal Code:10018 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.9027492701 Tech FAX:+1.9027495429 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:domain-registrar@register.com Name Server:NS1.HALKOSPHERE.COM Name Server:NS2.HALKOSPHERE.COM > Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org? > > My club site is hosted by VTR and it's down as well. > > Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 10:55:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007FF4054B for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:55:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D59403D5 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:48:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170136pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MI4004LWBVCI4V6@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:42:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from 131.247.90.72 ([131.247.90.72]) by vznit170136 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:42:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:42:48 -0600 (CST) From: Carl TR To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Team.Net notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I agree. Respond to the sender [ONLY] or to the list. Preferably to the list unless it is off-topic. Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida On 02/12/13, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: Or... we could delete all other recipients leaving the list as the sole recipient, as I do. A habit I picked up from when the listserve was not smart enough to delete duplicates. Just my opinion. Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 14:13:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1385F4054A for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:13:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E491A4042C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:09:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so744579ieb.15 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:03:18 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=p4BjFvf5hK9j2bNtT/8DoAxPWIqv9w1KwLsJbAZlZWw=; b=m1tPwcZmbosmSTAC03iFQ6GakLHgNALQBsjrEES8lLYhdxw/BptQLnwuTfwG6J2Y6U joSMy6g74P2wLdTOiplVwQucim92BHt0l2z9fpvjuwfV8A2YODXxB49R/wr40mRXfl0N TSIognA2CyhHGIIaGTTmwBQPFW9wyR1kJxhaB5ngsbVyo98e4kzMcr7VJUQsmdb6o7wr EL/LRPaPdfoguEVXn1V5Jw0s35WKLOsCFTraaA7aJnvC1Q8HM7sdSCxAR4l0nNU9chNO GK/KQUhYoEVG1l0CAsDQeDwlXuKgle3POa1zcvR0NMUl8Jl1QqEDS3aX5D1VaH9isMQe TJ6g== j6mr6389872igq.21.1360702997925; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.223.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:03:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:03:17 -0800 From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Wiper motor issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have attempted to repair a wiper motor switch/ stalk for a Mk2 Fed. stag. The wiper motor appears to fit other Triumphs. The only speed working is 2. When switched off, the wipers do not park. >From doing a quick Google search, to get two speeds, the windings are tapped at different points in the motor, if this is the case; does anyone know which color wire from the stalk drives speed one and which color wire drives speed two? Sujit ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 14:48:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161624053F for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:48:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC6C40402 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:48:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host.home ([unknown] [96.238.190.118]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI400H6EMYTTG10@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:42:30 -0600 (CST) From: Dean Tetterton Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:42:29 -0500 References: To: Sujit Roy Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Wiper motor issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just went thru this on a Stag. The wipers park with speed 1 so if that isn't working, no parking. In my case the plug that goes into the motor has a green wire in the lower left corner as you look at the plug. This should have 12 volts. on the other side where the wires attach to go to the motor, the wire was broken. You have to take out the 2 screws that hold the parking switch to the motor and turn it over to see it. The wires had hard insulation on them and break very easily at the connection. Be very careful when moving the parking switch. They break easily and none are available. Good luck Dean T. On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Sujit Roy wrote: > I have attempted to repair a wiper motor switch/ stalk for a Mk2 Fed. > stag. The wiper motor appears to fit other Triumphs. > > The only speed working is 2. > When switched off, the wipers do not park. > > > From doing a quick Google search, to get two speeds, the windings are > tapped at different points in the motor, if this is the case; does anyone > know which color wire from the stalk drives speed one and which color wire > drives speed two? > > Sujit > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 16:33:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775784053A for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:33:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602F440569 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:32:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k10so906888iea.33 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:40 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=enLFtEU2w5eIk2TqJujQEigV2Q/+Ws9y71eCLPafACM=; b=nyXHjYM4cJnXQVS7t4hap5VqDTcEDiJE3IDj/sViX3e2o2ZGgraVtrjxH9h+Yec0Vh R+vo6cBc1VqJZaGkqxDjf+InsUAgNNq/op3k3VVSUuknLtBxNJapCxk7AQNMtFbznxMH gENuhoxlLu5BblsDBMF96+u/QRRaWrUVpQ1iW3c4XRPKejo6dWHAjfjWQOfETORCs68l a92jFmbzZIrrMEQXIhi0ElnuYXSFG1cBk9/y29AKXQ5zXvVOk7GLzqDi1/pD2f8Hc6os Dv7RNW2JuvXN7rParWQAgoNQ76xYbD+aNzo0Aq50AD1cY8/aap3vLw0fyz2FICbN7jiI ctkA== j8mr26498331icu.37.1360711599848; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.223.8 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:39 -0800 (PST) References: <1360027195.18012.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5119CB01.4070807@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:26:39 -0800 From: Sujit Roy To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] wire wheels fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I went through a similar exercise with my '71 Stag. In addition to the 4 wires + spare I have a handful of spare hubs and wheels they all show some play, but I minimized them by swapping hubs and wheel combinations. As much as I like my Stag with wire wheels, when they really show signs of major wear, I'll for for something after market/ way cheaper. Sujit On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 2/4/13 6:19 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > >> wondering if there is a way to measure "play" in used wire wheel adaptors >> when >> attached to new wire wheels? I have some used adaptors and would like to >> use >> them on new wheels but am aware of the danger of doing this. I'm just >> wondering if a person could mount them and then test the "play" and if >> that >> would be a valid test? >> >> Has anyone "been there done that"? >> >> First there should be absolutely no play. > > Second, the condition of a hub spline can be checked visually. The > individual splines on a like new hub do not come to a point. There is a > flat area at the top. If the splines come to a sharp point they are badly > worn. It the point is tilted a little to one side they are desperately > worn. Compare the part of the spline that the wheel does not ride against > with the part that engages the wheel and look for wear. > > TeriAnn > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/triumphstag@**gmail.com > -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 22:12:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1642540553 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:12:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205454053D for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:11:37 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Y69zM6yojWcA:10 a=HTms6nFJAAAA:8 a=L0fNLXe-n6KHGJ4IpvMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 47/9A-22260-42F1B115; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:05:41 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Sujit Roy'" , "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:05:51 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4JZPtuT+MO/0deSAK6GO6kpoLRGAAQhGtg Subject: Re: [TR] Wiper motor issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > From doing a quick Google search, to get two speeds, the > windings are tapped at different points in the motor, if this > is the case; does anyone know which color wire from the stalk > drives speed one and which color wire drives speed two? There were different designs used at different times. I believe the Stag uses a third brush rather than a tap on the field windings. This should be fairly close I think (except for the wiper delay module on Mk II Stag) http://www.vtr.org/maintain/wiper-problem.shtml -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 07:55:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4036840E93 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:55:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.172.220.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E3340526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:52:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (75-175-70-220.ptld.qwest.net [75.175.70.220]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MI700FCET1NWU10@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:46:38 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-14_04:2013-02-14,2013-02-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=2 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1212290000 definitions=main-1302140094 From: Darrell Walker Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 06:46:35 -0800 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net List" Subject: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For your amusement today: http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:20:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BA340418 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:20:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E3D403C8 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:33:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI4007QCM9VM3M0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:27:32 -0600 (CST) From: "ptegler" To: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>, "Chris Simo" , "list Triumph" References: <776CC8A34CED4159B7E8B49F027E958F@BobDell> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:27:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 4:30 pm here in MD...site works just fine. Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Chris Simo" ; "list Triumph" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? > Can't get to it either....... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Simo > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:53 AM > To: list Triumph > Subject: [TR] VTR.Org down? > > Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org? > > My club site is hosted by VTR and it's down as well. > > Thanks > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E79640526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:21:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 55C81403D5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:08:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:01:59 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.132] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:01:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 43992 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2013 15:01:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360854119; bh=9d8wGSy7/REpkgTX5Xz6IqA4U8s62et/yyOw4y17SOs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6NZPcR0qmY4P6uUWNprZ4e+mTlASCcwv/Bpv9V83xn6i6kmoYcVDDs4/FkwY2WxzgbgwQPr8KPH5GIj/LAOIkLM+JsxCAamT//Z+eYSCmzBwsnywPLqTRysKcPRMBuUB2dCjqLqFw7wQiC+0dBytDL5Uxrz8XQzf3u11JueKdng= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jri+WZAc4QoMTaXitTGzrQMa4rGtxZJtCAfh9KXXAmoDmVDPHHRGTRbANZrm971f7gok7ykS4vYzIPNEnxn9rL738n4hz52pPczqWDC7vBHyRIZQpKSyh1B085lztcwH0uW4O0XB1wtrdSK/yyQ66cEEf7sTWvIkf4mcVh19sx8=; q2Q4GFiCxtXXT2EBX5NoFZbWZba0xr7Ukh0N9UprMsasqajzr.nfI3U9hljx tThxRlx5FZ6YvZiIJmE4vQdWzy2VpkuHH8NOqhs7kaoU0sbBNKMJHY66.3QN 6cE4r6_MCset7qdSMT_s0q3NrsyM.GucJa53AFxbXHBvNQTeW.dxjFC0A4kn 3odrmwWDMiMZOnUvMnQU52D2XFkpmbL5FspCyhfqsxXpr4PrbpxhDFb0ZQST 399DaChad4UpBgjU_gc8YvdBvhieu5Mq1hirwVz.anSRDfR9F6TQ2FPYiJSQ lXoPn3nlAUcHIM96RS_uN1B2oUBURZguTBky5xmPdX3iht_2WRCcnZdeIAEp kF.BPBnSRI7vTXuKFckQ3Ag31U5.KAucTd400.lPP1_rlc6QTVn.qRT8shbU AOWQcBJeECJAPP0h8M8geYXslsctNyK.iuSytr6TAxmBvzLmZhqxm5.qLFOm vVhf8OKxU.XpvPpvfeiGuC2WmPkSjKNYcOqvvIqoAubhHJhl1kFXYKLS.Ujt v_a6.giYeMRt6BS7Y6TJWu0Nqmw-- Received: from [90.199.100.244] by web171904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:01:58 GMT RGFycmVsbCdzIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIHJlbGVhc2UgY291bGRuJ3QgaGF2ZSBjb21lIGF0IGEgd29yc2UgdGltZSAtIGZvciBtZS4gSSdtIGp1c3Qgb24gdGhlIHZlcmdlIG9mIGxhdW5jaGluZyBteSBtdWNoLWltcHJvdmVkIGFuZCB0aG9yb3VnaGx5IGZpZWxkIHRlc3RlZCBCcml0aXNoIExleWxhbmQgRXh0ZXJuYWwgRW5naW5lIE9pbC1TcHJheSBzeXN0ZW0uCsKgCk9oIHdlbGwsIGJhY2sgdG8gdGhlIGRyYXdpbmcgYm9hcmQgdG8gc2VlIHdoYXQgYWRkaXRpb25hbCBmZWF0dXJlcyBjYW4gYmUgaW5jb3Jwb3IBMAEBAQE- References: <77905A62-79ED-43FF-8755-395ACEDB459B@mac.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:01:58 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Darrell Walker , "triumphs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Darrell's information release couldn't have come at a worse time - for me. I'm just on the verge of launching my much-improved and thoroughly field tested British Leyland External Engine Oil-Spray system. Oh well, back to the drawing board to see what additional features can be incorporated at little or zero cost. Shouldn't grumble too much I suppose, as my patented choke lock system (now in polished mahogany with a tooled Moroccan presentation case) is certainly helping to bolster dwindling pension income :) Jonmac ________________________________ From: Darrell Walker To: "triumphs@autox.team.net List" Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013, 14:46 Subject: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit >For your amusement today: > >http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm > >-Darrell > >-- >Darrell Walker >66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L >81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 >Vancouver, WA, USA > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:22:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C836D40EBF for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:22:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30E54042C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:16:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from JoePa2011 ([unknown] [96.249.153.70]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MI4005ZGLIBKVC0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:11:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph Laurito" To: "'Lee Daniels'" , "'Chris Simo'" References: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:11:00 -0500 Thread-index: Ac4JRv0o0KmO4PkuSSyylmlj3bgNOgAHkNVA Content-language: en-us Cc: 'list Triumph' Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Lee; I just got done talking to Inmotion Systems and it is back on like now. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lee Daniels Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:29 PM To: Chris Simo Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] VTR.Org down? Well it's not completely dead, the server does respond to a ping: ------------------------------------------------------------ Pinging vtr.org [69.174.114.172] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Reply from 69.174.114.172: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=54 Ping statistics for 69.174.114.172: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 36ms, Maximum = 37ms, Average = 36ms ------------------------------------------------------------ Also, the domain name is paid up through Sep. 24, 2014. May be just a hiccup in the http server on that machine. More info below: Domain ID:D2520-LROR Domain Name:VTR.ORG Created On:25-Sep-1995 04:00:00 UTC Last Updated On:16-Aug-2012 14:28:12 UTC Expiration Date:24-Sep-2014 04:00:00 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR) Registrant ID:CR37341030 Registrant Name:bob bownes Registrant Organization:web9 Registrant Street1:8 ribbon candy lane Registrant City:troy Registrant State/Province:New York Registrant Postal Code:12182 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.5182378573 Registrant Email:bownes@web9.com Admin ID:CR37341032 Admin Name:bob bownes Admin Organization:Seiri Admin Street1:8 ribbon candy lane Admin City:troy Admin State/Province:New York Admin Postal Code:12182 Admin Country:US Admin Phone:+1.5182378611 Admin Email:bb261@web9.com Tech ID:CR37341031 Tech Name:Domain Registrar Tech Organization:Register.Com Tech Street1:575 8th Avenue Tech Street2:11th Floor Tech City:New York Tech State/Province:New York Tech Postal Code:10018 Tech Country:US Tech Phone:+1.9027492701 Tech FAX:+1.9027495429 Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:domain-registrar@register.com Name Server:NS1.HALKOSPHERE.COM Name Server:NS2.HALKOSPHERE.COM > Is anyone else having an issue accessing www.vtr.org? > > My club site is hosted by VTR and it's down as well. > > Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trglory@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 13:49:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E9E406B5 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:49:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4681440526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:42:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A889C1C0017B6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8FB9AE000088 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:36:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:36:35 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360874198; bh=njvaAMNRKBoiobXcvBlpwPYqCKMXbqFBa1izlxNjrTg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UsPfwBjOjnoOBRIwaPkTvBYspNN3YwKLruQZ6fCVAXae46+UW5YOgkWHxOH96f/Il 8V8H/gTa3ydJtzM2UY/PdBW2TylXYtA4Tt6vn27DfVvJKF1xKTwfpI655wWxN00QcQ IvWdvoVkurUQP4Ndt32RpFB3YUKI//OVpnej4h70= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b511d4ad338de Subject: Re: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How about the random function ignition lockout? In a message dated 2/14/2013 2:15:32 PM Central Standard Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > Darrell's information release couldn't have come at a worse time - for > me. I'm > just on the verge of launching my much-improved and thoroughly field > tested > British Leyland External Engine Oil-Spray system. > > Oh well, back to the > drawing board to see what additional features can be incorporated at > little or > zero cost. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 14:39:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62E440690 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:39:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C358840526 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:29:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from Officedesktop (host-74-211-0-30.beyondbb.com [74.211.0.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LhOBc-1UjqrG18dc-00mxiN; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:23:11 -0500 From: "Jeremiah@curryclan.net" To: References: <10551502.779363.1360690968297.JavaMail.root@vznit170136> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:23:08 -0700 w21BQNJhfhT2Dml7BEEgHxBtbyxG313oZ18b+kD5TY/v1jYQ/8 UvrouFmoklThPe1KSpmcIZ8RN/2epyxaoYKvaCR9hwAbIca66g j43fez3+pspDOMUQJeZxx26eoPaGwlIen1C3RrB7D/B0ghZSYY 0TkkU2NdB3anAF4+pehs/zvIDSvTRJaBfvb8qwbW04ix7NPknE FjrWgNQmF2stPOrxB0bZEYff79e/QOzEdwfqHLwNFaWlxQJlrs V+nJRg5E+VorMtDrppxE04Osm6ghXvbxdmX0JLfQz03clvzvDt lxDB0Ok5zbbSQfc5gtKwz0dGZCYzVRPNIfNRj6CFe Subject: Re: [TR] Team.Net notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One reason to reply to the list and the person you are specifically talking to is because some of the email clients flag emails where the person is specifically in the to list. -----Original Message----- From: Carl TR Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:42 AM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Team.Net notes I agree. Respond to the sender [ONLY] or to the list. Preferably to the list unless it is off-topic. Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida On 02/12/13, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: Or... we could delete all other recipients leaving the list as the sole recipient, as I do. A habit I picked up from when the listserve was not smart enough to delete duplicates. Just my opinion. Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jeremiah@curryclan.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 17:15:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8404054A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:15:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC04403D4 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:51:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n3so2164183lbo.6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:45:09 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qNqG8Psnbig11oTeUUpkJBEyoEuRcuy5mU4zobFn86U=; b=Ccm1f02eYfMUtM+wChSSAxVqY8UiI8RmIsWmmWzjlQ/DJR7jmOY+73JTJfU0lhzjqP AfwALmlDZTNQV4KGOXmjnRSmJBsBND2S6WuREC2stkt+QQxt0qn/tZCqjS8vnToYj+ZI m1pj9E5aYTyfT8L0fKwCZCDfjQmlWt0hk+K7I2oBs5HHNDqW0fVM/4mDqK/IVWu2L6o2 aDZ4HPFgoUP/Uk+Dk70P+f7XRZmxvk6bdz2UWz0USr5KtV/efOCML1KO2bf6iBLVAy76 9xTQkxPtJqTYab9fLy2KNgog6f/8CH0Zvym737yGdsD/kxIKVbI7qiEh65iweflPQ5jS ERtA== k6mr1352262lbh.51.1360885509241; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.27.164 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:44:49 -0800 (PST) References: <77905A62-79ED-43FF-8755-395ACEDB459B@mac.com> <1360854118.41770.YahooMailNeo@web171904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:44:49 -0500 To: John Macartney Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The original external oil spray system is what kept my TR2 pretty much rust free for all these years. I can't wait to see the improved version! On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:01 AM, John Macartney < flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Darrell's information release couldn't have come at a worse time - for me. > I'm > just on the verge of launching my much-improved and thoroughly field tested > British Leyland External Engine Oil-Spray system. > > Oh well, back to the > drawing board to see what additional features can be incorporated at > little or > zero cost. Shouldn't grumble too much I suppose, as my patented choke lock > system (now in polished mahogany with a tooled Moroccan presentation case) > is > certainly helping to bolster dwindling pension income :) > > Jonmac > > ________________________________ > > From: Darrell Walker > To: "triumphs@autox.team.net List" > Sent: Thursday, > 14 February 2013, 14:46 > Subject: [TR] Lucas smoke replacement kit > > > >For your > amusement today: > > > >http://www3.telus.net/bc_triumph_registry/smoke.htm > > > >-Darrell > > > >-- > >Darrell Walker > >66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L > >81 TR8 > SATPZ458XBA406206 > >Vancouver, WA, USA > > > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 10:19:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDDC4042B for ; 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Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:37:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC46403F1 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:34:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fo12so3748411lab.0 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:27:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NlpP9VIjqqIqgHYUzCpyYmZeLgVXIDiYpHV7MGiMbB0=; b=v3ZFbXFQaHQIb7SNJ5h2wOYXqkb/AR6IztnDGoVRYve3yUILl26uCIrJXML093p5lI QsXIfQb4QAMQa9IwY/sitiE8ZongpOknUXQjw+jxopgGeUaRPOezvj5m7rWhlFeJpom1 jsc40eD19Edphw/Ma1iH4DImkdH2ASTUQCqWlq6wUvX6I/hI6pkdBGqNBLJFfQKQDOjU il+6883YuQ2tpUeKYrXV4skc6tMqzeDshqniBcxVSvyXaAabyIT+u7NV/m9BY2XkKxSX Q3Frilqr3U3uL6cGlAvCP6di0s9tNy9gtmIwlQMzfepB/6pN87LdiHjy4UYx0irFjBXM Swrg== ez6mr2467487lbb.86.1360952874618; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.170.230 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:27:54 -0800 (PST) References: <20130215100819.eacca00412c4e976446146f9b5e47255.5463ad5a6d.wbe@email06.secureserver.net> <1360950557.49913.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:27:54 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like both -- including listening to the Doors while driving the TR4. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > i believe they had 2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 12:13:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7B54043A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:13:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE17D40424 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:10:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so5285634ieb.15 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:40 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uAkfKA0VCx8d/EcU2Tw5tnwyUA0KMiAWMy+68/y+22g=; b=mwHvzxzy0avJ6ZL08p0OBupIP3Ah5B/VWs4px3EU/fsAedp2FQZIyg6KnUMcmTPCHE iA047munV3i84r9grNYCvQuiVa+rHjTnZO6W9BQKRuUZ4HWVtnN2xCMVcDsiwMkVco+3 b5922MHN60JfvoznZZWqCY2DU0VOLuA5F4L++wJnmjNjFRRaZ2UTvxm6bugwM0ipfcvn 4TyxtY9AyV6JjQxcGisOvjGe0fpRkg31l6FYCSAd9LSHUGaB/Jfj+tzwYzkmtv9SwK5E S6yFy5lPcAS64c20UiQO1kOW5rMKzQhTZMXOz95RQIholJdplWuYaBmJhs78ZjP0buEK KOoA== rf8mr3427892igb.21.1360955079788; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.223.8 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:04:39 -0800 From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] heli coiling aluminum cylinder head. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Im planning to heli coil the threads on my inlet manifold on my Stag. To make sure the drill is perpendicular to the surface of the head, I plan to have someone make me a 1 inch thick block and drill a perpendicular hole in it. I plan to use this as a guide. My issue is how to I make sure the Recoil brand of tap I have goes in perpendicular to the hole in the cylinder head? Im not sure what a Heli coil tap looks, like but the recoil brand does not have a long taper. Should I make another 1 inch block with a hole, tap that first, and then butt the 1 inch block up against the cylinder head and then tap the threads in the head through the 1 inch block block? Is this part over kill? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 13:23:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43A04043F for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:23:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E44403E2 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:18:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan06.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.6] helo=mailscan06.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U6RdZ-0008CK-L8 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:12:01 -0500 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan06.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U6RdZ-0000d4-Gk; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:12:01 -0500 Received: from webmail03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.3]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 0kC11l00303xsMW01kC1nx; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:12:01 -0500 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=ALmAinFlkV8A:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=HgmT5E2YGo0A:10 a=z11iiSUz6FKWJw8bj3EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=5mrclwhhXz8A:10 a=nAe1T1EFY5wA:10 a=gRhGp7LnpAQA:10 a=6bWqj1cAyGwgzdQj:21 a=uCRIeqstbUrtrlO0:21 a=P6/a/9HhigYI3usPxuwpQA==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1U6RdJ-0003HR-9p; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:11:45 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:11:45 -0500 References: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:11:45 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Sujit Roy" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] heli coiling aluminum cylinder head. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Why don't you simply drill two holes in your guide block? One to match the drill size and one to match the tap diameter. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Im planning to heli coil the threads on my inlet manifold on my Stag. To > make sure the drill is perpendicular to the surface of the head, I plan to > have someone make me a 1 inch thick block and drill a perpendicular hole > in > it. I plan to use this as a guide. > > > My issue is how to I make sure the Recoil brand of tap I have goes in > perpendicular to the hole in the cylinder head? Im not sure what a Heli > coil tap looks, like but the recoil brand does not have a long taper. > > Should I make another 1 inch block with a hole, tap that first, and then > butt the 1 inch block up against the cylinder head and then tap the > threads > in the head through the 1 inch block block? Is this part over kill? > Sujit > > -- > Sujit Roy, Realtor > Cupertino, CA > (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 16:28:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAE64043A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:28:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DFE40329 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:24:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 66BCE38000043; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mod003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 14643E000085; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:18:32 -0500 (EST) References: To: triumphstag@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com (205.188.91.205) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:18:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:18:31 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360970312; bh=L87ef2FpU4i4J9jacURL9VRMTypUKBwvb1ULiOq8YsY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fMD8S3ItCpr/mbHlb5k4yb9aUffaonQWPMjOj5lo0kFkLChlb71zHGikRJA6GwQb7 6RyoIz/eEV4Szkk4pFAXO3HIm4DQwV3qlPgDn9xTzQgwgpJDSTXnYScKr8syAjS3Lj 5xdheWkTWkfA/gTC9ylZ7oWb/CUkrpLyXg4uRIDI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948511ec248086f Subject: Re: [TR] heli coiling aluminum cylinder head. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Same thing. Have a hole that is sized just big enough for the tap. BTW, a piece of square tubing works just as wall and is much cheaper. I've got one for 1/4 and for 10-32. Any drill press with the table squared up will do a fine job. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 1:07 pm Subject: [TR] heli coiling aluminum cylinder head. Im planning to heli coil the threads on my inlet manifold on my Stag. To make sure the drill is perpendicular to the surface of the head, I plan to have someone make me a 1 inch thick block and drill a perpendicular hole in it. I plan to use this as a guide. My issue is how to I make sure the Recoil brand of tap I have goes in perpendicular to the hole in the cylinder head? Im not sure what a Heli coil tap looks, like but the recoil brand does not have a long taper. Should I make another 1 inch block with a hole, tap that first, and then butt the 1 inch block up against the cylinder head and then tap the threads in the head through the 1 inch block block? Is this part over kill? Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 16:30:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E441E403D4 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:30:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AE7403A5 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:30:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5746B1C000091; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mod003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.9]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 05491E00008E; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:23:57 -0500 (EST) References: To: triumphstag@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by webmail-d056.sysops.aol.com (205.188.91.205) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:23:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:23:56 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360970637; bh=vwjcsLXhoUAMFUvLToscCCVnswdja7xbryU2L/j1PGc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a1HMkkw95XZsHGOV+DmPEctOIdkhIx3zxoc9TNxCLaoxNSRWjP395HvgEAd9Np0X1 eWV3EruR0sQcxLTI9WSs6hvMPiVLNx3y6xtaqGmbw+pEwr2UpyKCFeXLucqnXjpuQi fEnx5N5bB+3hPGxkymfDhPxFafshz3LYfoqvIYBA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc511ec38d1558 Subject: Re: [TR] heli coiling aluminum cylinder head. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, sent too soon. Yes, that is overkill. Jjust make a hole that is sized just larger than the tap. I have a block that I have used for years with a hole sized to the following taps: 4-40, 6-32, 8-32, 10-32. I just recently make a similar block using 1X1 square steel tubing for the helicoil job I just did. BTW, using these blocks sure reduces tap breakage. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Sujit Roy Should I make another 1 inch block with a hole, tap that first, and thenbutt the 1 inch block up against the cylinder head and then tap the threadsin the head through the 1 inch block block? Is this part over kill?Sujit-- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 22:26:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9036F40442 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:26:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFBC403F1 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:25:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0sfV1l0081vN32cA1tKH83; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 05:19:17 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0tKH1l0072xZMJ48itKHJH; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 05:19:17 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 05:19:17 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Geo Hahn s=q20121106; t=1360991957; bh=up1Td9LRYChLtbfO6kYsD9Sdaui1p7xp2G4EDYdGr2Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LKj30AaQimW9WGwkaoo5vqZ2Oj6Odcoc0VRUbQ0P+6nNsFj7jD5LaDqsqj3ZFXu4X mKqIAsYut/DDUHmLQjYjf6fXQxNRVezlFFLt+hnF38Cixj2XYZbN+zhMwPgZbEv1DC H1CXK3XNcOpINAaaUWgQhlbUM8F7e0F4RqD9Ud+7XHL7KN2oveykD7HRjibo9d9xhD tvd3kwllu4HZdC4uR+1wKzZ0NTLMDz/+HvFxlalHMLuGhZIHnqrUmk5xK9GMjeCiR+ NMBrkJm2XFiVoqGzYg4p+DbezEmtv0tyfGLRgrWr6ynUhgJW10mFDCe17K0pOtZGXf SBskoUb59CW4A== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geo Hahn" > To: "Triumphs" > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:27:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors > I like both -- including listening to the Doors while driving the TR4. People are strange. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 23:16:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13AB4043A for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:16:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f42.google.com (mail-pa0-f42.google.com [209.85.220.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AD6403F1 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:16:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id kq12so2030779pab.1 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:10:02 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=RHhMK+zjTukzBKoaLc/qCF8cpR3X7OIYR+H2OaHg+zU=; b=yQgzf96toPAYW6lyoDyp3kpWzQCrRqVXdhiIna0/ynRBSq5pxlM8RaROuim1adR69h QQTydVcPybtTKHzlXFVYWOzhVcV9TX4yDy5DXQmuQcAXL+pT/98+KDzu5Y3V6j7Rp3Zx 7CG5itnLIF9mouIAofYmhzr1Wz/SPqhLH0A79nh+vc10XqNw5aXeGrJZ0oY/QF9NiFbF f3hnfOmC48pXYNgBeZP2/P5NH7J8KNeTTgQAzkoHwItMx3BinBaaFAT5WhsahOxpKH4f yEszO65oHYTviE1rhyts/7f/qGTxsEwIidUHYxc83oW4uDHWY9obWyKR7pobs55cYKNF PZHA== c7mr12298846pba.24.1360995001924; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5sm96036190pay.5.2013.02.15.22.09.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:10:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:09:56 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <818136751.472662.1360991957318.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/15/13 10:19 PM, pethier@comcast.net wrote: > People are strange. > Phil Ethier ... when your a stranger Faces look ugly when you're alone Women seem wicked when you're unwanted Streets are uneven when you're down When you're strange Faces come out of the rain When you're strange No one remembers your name When you're strange What is strange is trying to drive a car 50+ years newer than anything you have that doesn't even have a clutch, has a knob instead of a shift lever and doesn't have wing mirrors. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 07:53:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F84042E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:53:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F218440406 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:50:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id l12so3248499lbo.5 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:43:55 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3Y15LN4iiHj7bCL71gka1eKhNNFNtzYm78r5XVO5/Mw=; b=B9KaIZ1YPVkiSifJyUctsbipPuj58kAl71TbMYBRbHrxoSdGdW455/XywW2DT7JorC WZSDIxw+PtyzzmhQ3CadeR14kgwx6d2DWcZ6HfsX5djOs5YnkizfeKcVhZr4m7bDSoYR yr06tNpaiP//EnS8PGO6Ov51cJW5Pce7HYnGtGs4XWne178+XZGaFVxd+z2Rbcm8ZRol 3BrACRFRn/oa9dMEFsL2k0LzHUbjnmhBLBwcE+f24l9jes3gfclkTwt/tRYgrctQL8m7 8ThFsTBItq6yC7ROZslm40hMbBXjdf2E5Ld6z+nM9HzhHfnjMkDHlvaGiR9vk5OaML7S neng== te7mr5314489lab.23.1361025835187; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.170.230 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:43:55 -0800 (PST) References: <818136751.472662.1360991957318.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <511F22B4.7030905@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:43:55 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At least push-button starters have made a comeback. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > What is strange is trying to drive a car 50+ years newer than anything > you have that doesn't even have a clutch, has a knob instead of a shift > lever and doesn't have wing mirrors. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 08:23:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628F840442 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:23:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com (mail-pb0-f48.google.com [209.85.160.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A93C4042A for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:22:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id wy12so1008383pbc.21 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:16:17 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uRWc3Ku01Ex5xGquILsSPegCfpFn/Zc8Bj3pIa7+DDI=; b=mgSD0GFEMVoxIl6SUkIv7yPjbgcOyXnXXto/K9XoRUfHkqdmXzC7nWBikKmq4OV+le vXsB0FE2Ta1/x55gRj8Ab/drwCVh94PizyjoSjCiswLzBI7vrBSe2HOas7uwSPrLkDvK zyfkHw7Yk8b/QFbhrItDGLBdBmnHNNDGLmPWSgXMVexgP+BgFsWXzcNL4bVyTHltckaQ HTKdlSaCVBt3ogXm6JqjofaP3osXBplxprMknUsmnuN/0NxR1UwAyxOB5CyYyAzuq5oJ oQex+ArTctoEwJTuGKWksCBmnvkgcna5fI1axUdRzKldNVmU7odnpcyHNXZe3RPZBQN9 CL7g== gk7mr14865985pbc.164.1361027777023; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-43-22.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.43.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9sm97335532paw.1.2013.02.16.07.16.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:16:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:16:12 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <818136751.472662.1360991957318.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <511F22B4.7030905@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/16/13 7:43 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > At least push-button starters have made a comeback. Which makes things easier for car thieves. Used to be they would have no idea how to start my cars since both have starter buttons. But yes I'm glad to see that the auto designers have come to their senses about something. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 08:27:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D49940510 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:27:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1014042A for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:27:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 12so1638639wgh.1 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:21:14 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=K/TZBnybkOG/xD7e363BLdH8gpTOYtC6cI/mXZrWkTE=; b=DSBMTecWGBcU8HIsrNJUT9EYmra6lzmG5UzlS8G0a+fTDRqX2rxuWT4k27biSaIFhF QXxRDA3oBxVgWWhU3fla5wMPWRb7EBQf3L+QIuNVm21j+rYOzWjzCsT9rwNNRQwTDJua agLRb3BvBKdJQJ/McYKzRnpeYqRHoU166oMVqWEAQ2glIwIKEkyb/k0l1ExD3g2bk8E9 N31VUGH98Ix4oXwmhdnT5El9xDTMmCfEMs53HC0RAef1c/3O9o3Lz9y1eGPF1h3QCGhh 1VD9mY0NFjrSP6mJgZx+RU0as5pTFTVcjix3Lx+K+iw8vf8E3Ktjb5aKUPIdv8OGuqyZ /VBQ== az10mr9841436wib.3.1361028074473; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.15.73 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:21:14 -0800 (PST) References: <818136751.472662.1360991957318.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <511F22B4.7030905@gmail.com> <511FA2BC.1080308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:21:14 -0600 From: Don Hiscock To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, but won't that obscure and unrecognized "third pedal" on the floorboards keep today's theives from driving away pretty well? Don On 2/16/13, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 2/16/13 7:43 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: >> At least push-button starters have made a comeback. > Which makes things easier for car thieves. Used to be they would have > no idea how to start my cars since both have starter buttons. But yes > I'm glad to see that the auto designers have come to their senses about > something. > > TeriAnn > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 08:39:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CB940431 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:39:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com (mail-la0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBCE4042A for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:32:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id ek20so4253984lab.2 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:26:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s2Oi/zsrbg1fOi/vP18jXiSpcu8MJDIiw3GBCNMfKlw=; b=EdzZtvjGMWGlvU6tUxcqMY26RbX5RzzvHJDu5ogtQ8C8fVOl1iv14QPhCHWH4vFXzu JBJsXZ23U/lOrLEMBVsCme5TqM7SSuli0xgpt+lDIPQZdRMYnSIyqSudVnshMbCoLQqP vRoXpYeTb3cmio96eaV+da90PNAW8HfTaaMm4YtTWXvlJgBANs692IpIs3RPMXNsRZ3V K0YmHSZOUx1jYH1T/HhWqr8WDnHx6RYGs6ET2/4lS4cU9rU/XYSmaWr4MUIatPCGkLWd bm0jt1ddZA8NEIN26n+GVpWOMymVZ55418Qo9NO2hYbadJZ+lUK276xPO7LRl3ZUmmXE Ding== u9mr3452831lba.97.1361028393852; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.170.230 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:26:33 -0800 (PST) References: <818136751.472662.1360991957318.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <511F22B4.7030905@gmail.com> <511FA2BC.1080308@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:26:33 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A local club member had his Sptifre car-jacked at gun point in a parking lot. The Spit owner got well away, phoned the police and watched as the car-jacker tried to find reverse. He was still trying to find it when the cops showed up. That guy is now a guest of the State of Arizona for a few years. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Yeah, but won't that obscure and unrecognized "third pedal" on the > floorboards keep today's theives from driving away pretty well? > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 09:40:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6182F40511 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:40:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D32E4043E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:39:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 16:33:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.231] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 16:33:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 16:33:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 53421 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2013 16:33:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361032392; bh=RIWzx0ZXqBVKd6Qk7aaqaAMzVOtYLhexOEuOFS02wyg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sejcVYWCa/ixuRhz/5dQM7TJP34lDnrVtpoZrD47Hg0z+Rfv/IUDRYg5+V77oQWvkWopkTB8uicNoZRPnDuAgRh94ApGTQOOFcUdaXG7jZoTpD2a3vviOIOdZAmId5UMpEE9RWE6Dlww/vzN+cU0acdtDa8DxQvo/GMnWsKXPVI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p+Moy34TMhd4jKFfFvSMbLtlNVeDxDfHkqDHH8CZIhB6xyYaMrI74A9Gndlxk6ivm3t5ke+UJ8lAMjHULpSJGuGm/ywvMa8DEzlzuoVt9GJyeFPphVYSA2qLknQEN/VbYIKqc2SH1T+9GsY6GKY0ltRx7252NDfQv5kB4XR8Sig=; lUNkWTDWHQ3AJP_su9iGI7z.rfn2mgw.HZ.OnkFNS5itJBV2mYBCU9EVOXTF Ol4JkNpJTq0i3qKEkSFhnPcubzqQISlzZqDo6yuobOy7RaarJWgwHXyquaB5 Pj2UHtRo2_gkXXGOIwPRM6U0kYbaeApmZl1jaKFy1bARyCZxZN9slaob0olK Tm6WBiP7hcckkcKYBbNGCqlRH9mM75VauszqgagUcguSgria.taoqi7_j7QO 11u6eOJXwZkbcgo4sl2.q2xTnyYOSxWqZxZHdoqKRVJY4aCGlIkTGmgNpisP puLrqhreLsGll21MHX0W2sVuoXpVuhMFK_DCIC.hQCsMVD2ddEUBv9wsZ59_ uTntNVp53g9IGYGph7wPjiuZQ0vCrXr2HU.z0ARVjBaBeOe5bV8nAlxT5JnM oKdZ.MQN2PgWPc6ycnIVtU24L8PQt4qQ_IuFZwlVWqolUm4_uNN5T0A-- Received: from [72.45.201.74] by web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:33:12 PST RGF0ZTogRnJpLCAxNSBGZWIgMjAxMyAwOTo0OToxNyAtMDgwMCAoUFNUKQpGcm9tOiBGcmFuayBGaXNoZXIgPHllbGxvd3RyM0B5YWhvby5jb20.ClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbVFJdIFRSNCBkb29ycwoKaSBiZWxpZXZlIHRoZXkgaGFkIDIKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KSGkgTGlzdCEKV2VsbCBpdCBhbGwgZGVwZW5kcyBvbiBob3cgeW91IGxvb2sgYXQgaXQuIFllcywgdGhlcmUgYXJlIHR3bywgQlVUIHRoZXJlIGlzIHN1cHBvc2VkbHkgYmUgb25seSBPTkUgbGVmdCAmIE9ORSByaWdodCBkb29yLiA6PikKCi1Db3MBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:33:12 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 doors i believe they had 2 -------------- Hi List! Well it all depends on how you look at it. Yes, there are two, BUT there is supposedly be only ONE left & ONE right door. :>) -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 13:51:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD5640452 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:51:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC28403F8 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:43:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 18Cd1l0041smiN4A38dW8J; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:37:30 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 18dV1l00X2yr1eL8g8dVoz; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:37:30 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:37:29 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" s=q20121106; t=1361047050; bh=we//YxuEmSJBFz2WND1tQBP6Efb1Fof46DwSU8VLJXo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=V6FE4Gmv3DTHxeTWTt/Xv7I1sN8CzWLJghNyentCTyCdYeneHQ7Zs4FLF8Cb8WJYz j8cIWTm8UuX6Czmnwns7n8vFmXeuQb9bjTBC8oEo5PpDlh0BnTJZY+bartIoGbTyps uMBc5Iky+gYUqhbpzmD/KteeYOxxJBodoOCxyrzaoI6buwNVOoNgbW8x3Woj3QFdgl GRgwCVVVWXp47+eiHr3FlkL4sY7P5Vjn9jQKn7+jgw4E4ALZEAVyKuO9f2gKleMAu1 1pVgDZhpDJCsauRYHmZE7TfH/1K5Q/fSiWwEcClC5B5V18UQwz5jOznltZsY9E5nVM NPai13ue3R91g== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Unneeded message. I already had the earworm. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:09:56 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 doors > On 2/15/13 10:19 PM, pethier@comcast.net wrote: > > People are strange. > > Phil Ethier > ... when your a stranger > Faces look ugly when you're alone > Women seem wicked when you're unwanted > Streets are uneven when you're down > > When you're strange > Faces come out of the rain > When you're strange > No one remembers your name > When you're strange > > What is strange is trying to drive a car 50+ years newer than anything > you have that doesn't even have a clutch, has a knob instead of a > shift > lever and doesn't have wing mirrors. > > TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 17:41:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05C54051E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:41:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7553540323 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:34:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:27:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.130] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:27:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:27:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361060876; bh=Ai8P9vZYJ265V8Lo0R+i4N30brUl667/MCbgnSXkEXI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=WhKUluWauqjYNxjwuikLGcTknTS0Zf1QpLpuzynDr6oJu+CNfD8Q7SuQJek+MVSqcNNaPvS1vaT/5LbMIa01fyjsz4L784Yza2DUCfeErRn63B1IvRmnau10U7hTMX/55TgFplBOkzNXKrQuAFI3KifF+ABGsm8BkYQ+cjy2gQE= UosC7zCsm4vW7nKKUfZ_Th6k2AIQDtjXeggQ2qSg1_P7kZdEa6wK70tq0XJs h9fvVfnjXXoPAsmI_yoo6MOu8xLpxjF4poHMOrSdqUNqMTKd2DbbzUgFiD.W 9eK3vsBgBiQusp4e31Lvobq786VjRxFPPK7dhNYGMyT4gJiaFOI_lnFJjKOq yYqnBWQVGGEsuMmkxUgzWgnSbBtiYciX0NDbMFh.fjCnBAHFdccvaFCcUGbe Gdrxj4fXYVHdDLphJNzpVBoTVZF63U8BibtnM0lnJAOq4JhJYR.HsmID9eOQ jIlwWhBtEmMksEmxYVaNffEllH3Bt8WURVuSsy0KeTNzDj2jY9i7Qu.4dDrF .ukeug42WPEIaTEpKIMJgAJ7jfgdiFQxaHS3ObNkppege.nDX2ZKW6xADwye yi2.8AFOiSM95PkkQ0ZBNORaoHmR6tABpuNaC9UvZ_Ojq41bMfNVFpvkK21A nD2JXrHjxCvVRmafysZyh_xTRVyKJWG.rojdTg1.KRkgDxb58Nw-- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2013 00:27:56 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: "'list'" Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:27:39 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac4MpZapJU0+Q75TSJqWfUfSk2iUmg== Subject: [TR] TR4 Trans Gears Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just got to the transmission on the latest project, TR3B w/TSF transmission, only to find a series of nicks in the input shaft gear. While the gear itself looks sound with no teeth missing it appears that possibly a foreign object got in and caused these random nicks. Also a few smaller blemishes on the opposing constant mesh gear. Looking at the Moss book and see that these are N/A, don't have a Stanpart number to search at TRF or anywhere else. Is there a source for these gears? Many thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 19:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DE140450 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:00:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2603840406 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:59:43 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=S0loVsGEG3QA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=XEQZ5UZxPTYA:10 a=3xE22L0zAAAA:20 a=l4wEztDFAAAA:20 a=DukEo6mE9nhJ6ZTwBwoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=3Xp-wK698P0A:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CA/CF-25866-71830215; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 01:53:28 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Wbeech'" , "'list'" Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:53:31 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4MpZapJU0+Q75TSJqWfUfSk2iUmgACzt8Q Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Trans Gears Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You can download the TR4 SPC at http://goo.gl/RtLeq Input shaft doesn't seem to be available, TRF has the mating gear (105626) listed for $250. Might make more sense to look for a used box to rob parts from. Or I think I've got an input shaft that would be usable, but you'd have to have a machine shop modify it to use the later center bearing (the bearing surface inside is damaged). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 07:06:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3308E40421 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:06:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01992403D9 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:06:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q12so3683662lbc.11 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:00:16 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=GPT0oiZD23jf0JHM7/Nj5eMGGEuZknyeqJvVoIxMQOw=; b=h3g6l8OpnWv8b2cNOTVgCtDyGtO+d2DXe+IJDx8b5CNb3rMtKfBWDJaUka8SPyUyNU yLE2xyMnSlpLITj71gkVYvhH4AbMwXyvtsBAjn7HD6i6qmsGm0zamRPuFzSiV4aiaU8U VFH7t9qExGxgQ46O7tU46sbsu1RbnuR6hVCq8DyUg7H5eb/NwIxxkSPuNMrF0J/Beoi2 NViifWbpKu2SMAmJZT+p/4ZClH7Gz9OscQ+Zh3zAVQslrFI8DKPh5OFM0ybsQ60TvXH2 mME0ueIuILSYa8vWp5gaOAQaIMES+1At+3O7GAITB19OhUqyD08HgFkRrpTkzncoZ20/ aLKg== u9mr4417658lba.97.1361109615986; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:59:55 -0800 (PST) References: <442456B0CCFC4FCE8B78660388ED65F8@bboffice> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:59:55 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Trans Gears Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'd look for a used gearbox, swap out the layshaft and run it for a while. I was the grateful recipient of a free TR4 gearbox from a fellow list member who was moving to California. I replaced the layshaft (quick, easy job. it had light grooving in it so I'm glad I did it) and it's gone about 3500 miles in the TR2 since. Plenty of noises to sort out, but none from the transmission!!!. Thanks again! Good luck Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 07:13:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946A7403E7 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:13:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F43A403D9 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:09:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so4714202lab.11 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:02:43 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=GMTlLPyFEeSjQQRiEYJ8W+CI3vo6jn5qs6AD/5mJ5l8=; b=sGPEuoAIQn2Hz2bGh9SozTmQNX+DScmO1a3mxeMvLDXvT8Kvl/epXGz1t3ETNZNcma iy6jtJ/unksoy8/GD5X0WFzFc3K2FPu4scDXyk/wKy1pTsXVFmV1RZBveBDDXvcZUdta YEkVujEE8E291gns6dDBVi6ur3Sry+h+0LfQbyN4jNUgL1KutqhYSc1Wu6nns1XneH8K 31dZ5arH4tfpf8Fmo8/+JEKbjbrO0o2ZNMN39+HreQZO+FDZkI5SUrByUDY+1cDLA9mI hpqVXEi99KIFik261lIhdCVaxlPUnzdiyCOcs4vrn6mQhJ41t7v+crS3UZrQbmSMqJIr TSbQ== y7mr4528200lbk.12.1361109763420; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:02:22 -0800 (PST) References: <442456B0CCFC4FCE8B78660388ED65F8@bboffice> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:02:22 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Trans Gears Source Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Of course - your results may vary. The transmission I received was in very good condition and was replaced because of an upgrade to the HVDA 5 speed setup, not because of wear. On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > I'd look for a used gearbox, swap out the layshaft and run it for a while. > > I was the grateful recipient of a free TR4 gearbox from a fellow list > member who was moving to California. I replaced the layshaft (quick, easy > job. it had light grooving in it so I'm glad I did it) and it's gone about > 3500 miles in the TR2 since. Plenty of noises to sort out, but none from > the transmission!!!. Thanks again! > > Good luck > > Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 14:54:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D940551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:54:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6A440540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:53:33 -0700 (MST) a=5e7VMBvhA0tZemR8N+TV1w==:17 a=Ir91I79I2C0A:10 a=-7eIIZy9PNkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2LOCR9VN9JgA:10 a=roD6tIcZIjKo6zWr4jYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xKcg41fyCdljX-57pGwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Cju4-hrlvUzsrVWw:21 a=5e7VMBvhA0tZemR8N+TV1w==:117 Received: from [75.114.210.80] ([75.114.210.80:42570] helo=[10.0.1.2]) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A2/5C-20480-D51A2215; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:47:09 +0000 From: Dan Cronin Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:47:07 -0500 To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Replacing Sills & A-B Posts in TR2,3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers I am pretty much totally rebuilding a 55 TR2 and am puzzled by a couple of things: The A posts seem to be at 90 degrees to the sill while the B post seems to be tilted in the direction of the A post very slightly. When I measure the steel box outs of the inner door at B post side it too seems to be tilted between 1/4 and 3/8 of an inch in the direction of the A post.....and not at 90 degrees. Those of you who have been there and done that, what has been you experience? It seem like they should both be at 90, but.......both inner door frames exhibit this slight incline towards the A post. Dan Cronin adcronin@mi.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 15:05:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1DA40571 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:05:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B440542 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:05:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.98.227]) by p3plsmtpa11-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 1xyz1l00A4uMasu01xyz7j; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:59:00 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Dan Cronin'" , "'Triumph List'" References: <4017D907-08A9-463B-A955-6CAD39F6C434@mi.rr.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:59:01 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFh/ZbxCGy4uQUil3Sr6cFta+9aVJlYSdTQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing Sills & A-B Posts in TR2,3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dan - go carefully as you run the risk of losing all your landmarks if not careful. One suggestion is to brace the A and B posts and then replace one at a time using the brace to ensure the new ones assume the same position. I would also suggest you rivet the posts and then check everything fits with good lines - front fender, door, dogleg - before taking your welder out. Final point: B posts differ depending on the manufacturer so panel fitting becomes the guiding principle when deciding position. Andrew Uprichard P.S. I have a set of made-up TR2/3 braces you can borrow if they'd help. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dan Cronin Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:47 PM To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] Replacing Sills & A-B Posts in TR2,3 Listers I am pretty much totally rebuilding a 55 TR2 and am puzzled by a couple of things: The A posts seem to be at 90 degrees to the sill while the B post seems to be tilted in the direction of the A post very slightly. When I measure the steel box outs of the inner door at B post side it too seems to be tilted between 1/4 and 3/8 of an inch in the direction of the A post.....and not at 90 degrees. Those of you who have been there and done that, what has been you experience? It seem like they should both be at 90, but.......both inner door frames exhibit this slight incline towards the A post. Dan Cronin adcronin@mi.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:06:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADD540567 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:06:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C2E40551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:06:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DF6831C000196 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-deb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-deb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.137]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AFDAAE000097 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:59:53 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: l1j1s@aol.com Received: from 64.131.128.239 by Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com (205.188.146.16) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:59:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:59:53 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361228393; bh=ngC6MhoVFy0owLSnVsZeG+sSkN1rnM+iB/C5wR40n00=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QsGxxHI3r8iyDZi+6Z3WO7hmLvkf4pVZnrfHBhIQ0kRLaV727mwujxYvD18myXePf NsU7wCY6v2hXxdZccWkCy5yfenpCAx6sBTYPueR9LMxXxExmyvjtcnUQz3etcKNmOG 98ECMeCKfjSF1oiQfKQDkPCg6P2Ownj5aBJ28DNw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c5122b2694266 Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, with reference to the Tr-3 engine vent pipe i have a question. Yes we all know the benefits of the engine vent tube( it lubricates the engine bay and the chassis), but if one wants to keep the engine bay and chassic clean can one incorpoorate a oil catch can for the engine vent pipe? Are there any drawbacks to this added on item? Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:29:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244F440570 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:29:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1FC40551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:29:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:23:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:23:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:23:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 58622 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2013 23:23:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361229794; bh=PSHfFkhs/L7AH0wRlKvFLyDBI46d4OQh/dyb01ybEfQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yo4rPWedXBhjMpecSgyMEqOKqX6Ktr849XssnTGuzMdROw3grMKNgLhSnXl4FwRvE/P/Gbc/861/ZjHhrsjz84fx2zEfNA3WN0tfdHXGHe3NUsdes94ke2PmgYQ7EKBbuelMyK3x1rmj3ij+Fqh1mhtorSUbsgApqXTPUZpD0Y4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aq1RZPgyhJUYhOOiNcV7xgnF8Askx6yzi73RyUNjOxOhwuLBUKUlmnSgFDpS8V72bt8Kg8b99c1WsfIJkoew4SM0qCiA65cPW6HOSThKPcg3Ba6YIrwTkw11efTMsjq8Am7dRLBgcVZ4EPPMrl76laaDllu/vNRFFzG1wyok5e0=; imvVuoAQown17cX1kS849cJysh_ScJrxChfBYoq0cJxW7XEvhfS90QQFqPc6 LptXgpisR69E_q41eeeXCNoHi4jSzpgtgJ93Ou9jbBsACyc5cd69Rmqujiwb iIYOEPc_w82DLHD1PiLIQbhCs6iOTJDSFtvnHkEHzZDG.7Mwf.LJDpGUPVXp Ffmq.33gsQKQJDTvbJQSUc4bVZvWO9WmEHMvKVXk4c51p7su3yWgvILI76YU 6gVoD..Dri23icuFOtkHpUMuNMplstcddRfkA6OzQvYOneH9TAQk4tCHX6bt clwkWWobI7zBwVI3jqoia0wi7ld9.dP2F9fCgta6eeQE4iEiNdxdE1PUQruI KllMXbS_OU5WEZcnnvft5wyA9xtuQRJx5AkarlbrVmjI3iXCTQIgIykiIA5H rnK4LRy3GryOGDr7i0YMK_6FiZGblNlQ3fv0mjrbWDorDdHGifejh601gJQh f9.1SZbax2F_k2AiUp3ln Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:23:14 PST TGFycnkKdGhhdCdzIGV4YWN0bHkgd2hhdCBhbGwgdGhlIHJhY2UgZHJpdmVycyBoYXZlIHRvIGRvLiBjb21wdWxzb3J5LgppIGhhdmUgc2VlbiBtYW55IHdheXMgb2Ygcm91dGluZyBpdCBpbnRvIGEgY2F0Y2ggYm90dGxlL2Nhbi9mYW5jeSBjb250YWluZXIuCkZyYW5rCgpGcm9tOiAibDFqMXNAYW9sLmNvbSIgPGwxajFzQGFvbC5jb20.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCBGZWJydWFyeSAxOCwgMjAxMyAyOjU5IFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gVHItVHIzIGVuZ2luZSABMAEBAQE- References: <8CFDC42CBBE6D01-1484-DD5B@Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:23:14 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: "l1j1s@aol.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Larry that's exactly what all the race drivers have to do. compulsory. i have seen many ways of routing it into a catch bottle/can/fancy container. Frank From: "l1j1s@aol.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:59 PM Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe List, with reference to the Tr-3 engine vent pipe i have a question. Yes we all know the benefits of the engine vent tube( it lubricates the engine bay and the chassis), but if one wants to keep the engine bay and chassic clean can one incorpoorate a oil catch can for the engine vent pipe? Are there any drawbacks to this added on item? Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:35:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B702340561 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:35:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050194006E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:34:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa07-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 1zUB1l00A53lu5001zUDJk; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:28:13 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <8CFDC42CBBE6D01-1484-DD5B@Webmail-d115.sysops.aol.com> <1361229794.57594.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:28:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net wouldn't a filter accomplish the same objective? maybe some kind of hose clamped on thing? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:23 PM To: l1j1s@aol.com ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Larry that's exactly what all the race drivers have to do. compulsory. i have seen many ways of routing it into a catch bottle/can/fancy container. Frank From: "l1j1s@aol.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:59 PM Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe List, with reference to the Tr-3 engine vent pipe i have a question. Yes we all know the benefits of the engine vent tube( it lubricates the engine bay and the chassis), but if one wants to keep the engine bay and chassic clean can one incorpoorate a oil catch can for the engine vent pipe? Are there any drawbacks to this added on item? Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 17:09:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1773E40568 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:09:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B214055F for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:08:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1q5W1l00L0cQ2SLA102NaG; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:02:22 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 202N1l00K2yr1eL8W02Nrp; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:02:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:02:22 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Dave s=q20121106; t=1361232142; bh=GPObp+X2JZ2M4qyD5mO6Rj3wsTBT/YKMr+4Vve0xDKg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=l3OfcHOyYoeUNH6FUneFU1VLNFKoOnB9MYP0VtMccb7zTqwEOG0foWwHJMOWntSVq buk2fcHYNpTsJX0KGNkBZo+sGj7ET2Z3gE+r7qY+J0g1NP8jd1ngSQUMtbnbl2OUkY DFN4fJanVh8u2LERHc0LOAnM61d9MRoYstvrDAbo4LYWY3u3APwHh+3N0ZTQxCNhXM cpQhHbJuC9aswT7jrKgmJe1HKG+cxoVwuM7j9Z0Mc+cBA1m3xl7tOIlrE/f6bVHBls oISf1o2DXAxJuuovTfhLDArV/v+N1RlbHzg8x+uLRNN2cFr77zy5fvDl6kKeYgout1 0IXvA7Bdojj6A== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, Very funny description of the vent tube benefits. The stock tube will still supply oil to unwanted areas even if you run it to a catch can. The trick is to seal it well at the block connection. This is very difficult to do with the stock tube. It has a split in it and only a slip fit for Pete's sake. I made an steel fitting with an O-ring seal and welded it to a modified vent tube, then ran it straight up to a catch can. I can't imagine oil ever finding it's way to the can. Unless of course a serious motor problem arises or the car is upside down. Good luck, Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:28:05 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe wouldn't a filter accomplish the same objective? maybe some kind of hose clamped on thing? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:23 PM To: l1j1s@aol.com ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Larry that's exactly what all the race drivers have to do. compulsory. i have seen many ways of routing it into a catch bottle/can/fancy container. Frank From: "l1j1s@aol.com" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 2:59 PM Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe List, with reference to the Tr-3 engine vent pipe i have a question. Yes we all know the benefits of the engine vent tube( it lubricates the engine bay and the chassis), but if one wants to keep the engine bay and chassic clean can one incorpoorate a oil catch can for the engine vent pipe? Are there any drawbacks to this added on item? Larry Schwartz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 19:23:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AF840569 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:23:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620A640567 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:19:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130219021311.OYWU24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:13:11 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 22DB1l00W1bBNls052DB0w; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:13:11 -0500 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=Fi4Lu3y0RDsA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=mYauxWCmOPgA:10 a=zItAuvE9arVj5bU6Q8YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:13:15 -0500 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <188321991.1198690.1361232142232.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/18/2013 7:02 PM, davehogye wrote: > I can't imagine oil ever finding it's way to the can. Unless of course a serious motor problem arises or the car is upside down. In which case you can easily oil the bottom of the car yourself, instead of using the complicated draft tube system... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 02:33:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1858040550 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:33:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A365740438 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:32:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail171-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.246) by TX2EHSOBE008.bigfish.com (10.9.40.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:04 +0000 Received: from mail171-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail171-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E984C00ED for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:03 +0000 (UTC) H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI Received: from mail171-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail171-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1361265962285295_9578; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.254]) by mail171-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378A32400D0 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by TX2EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (10.9.99.127) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:01 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 86C9F68003 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A05900815FA; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:01 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E66E68003 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:01 +0000 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:26:00 +0000 Thread-Topic: Demister hose Thread-Index: Ac4OgyE/cinzId+eQMyaN4uw7+6cvg== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US VDF=10.130.61) Subject: [TR] Demister hose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TR2 demister hose, is there an alternative to the paper and wire affair that unravels under the dashboard, and refuses to go back onto the vent or feed without crumpling up! I'm all for originality, but I bet the original stuff was of better quality than this. Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 06:25:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F857400A4 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:25:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com (mail-wg0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424534044D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:24:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 15so5342291wgd.28 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:18:24 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=SLzI5ZcRVDIIQuK13lJzFrNM7dlgVdDM5wc7K5hkKmY=; b=y0tpKpDrLrH5YlD8/fVVwNZUZmO9BotL4FzCUSlZzaYGhz4f2FRV+gqCqcR9xkVw5U X7liywEQkQsvoKureRUMf9by4PpmRzbxoe5+qH2aIfnssxnLwefL6/9s0r3jKumtPq8Z cxUG+vENVAOvI8nsPewbowIgtAG0ZxBcJ+3Mo9yPTqJ7vEOuLgO9qsXrr7ZkZp8UJYuP uev9HDKNtX5jFJwKKhBah7NhCpT1LceMuFAPkRGQJFRFYCPOII3qERtbGHHltopLEYyO K+67epC0U2QBJK2KX0iVg5ektvKZbuQzAmK48fe9lz7OjMP4W8ymKAIIjHKzq68WzEKc LNIg== az10mr25705285wib.3.1361279904151; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.15.73 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: Don Hiscock Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:18:03 -0500 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Interesting TR3 Mistral special in Belgium show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Neat looking car: http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/classic-car-events/one-off-triumph-special-steals-the-show-in-belgium ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 06:35:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A5340570 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:35:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B14403E3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:33:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ma3so2233708pbc.11 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:26:52 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=qsAvbs7+IeqrCNEAn9i9oOLtq4m9J1Gh40d/kTj1Vsk=; b=Qhss5g3zrbHG16Ctld79t10PUepI1OBGPLkZM8nuUrZn+Mmfvnf/xEBdSLawAERTF1 /GYYRd8ID2Hp/IGNQYZy6Wj1nf4ls74OKUMxfeqnu8fwK7llf5rAFYiEggfod71QRFwP jIkvHBW44GHX4znsUgF1dc+JU1OnrQULn23BiFegkYYDp6PXy9cIlQZ7yHiv/GVH426b FJTq4YPnwQwkXDlVyAB0nUmoPlqhWbaubjITxHkoBo3kg8OgTow7bZXBSfxhny/BSuGN rarIwHSKjG5nnNfk/AUftHm/q/KiMIeA0Wszq6yGXzUKvtKUyguuTkdRZuhBt+jw25OP 9sSQ== Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-32-24.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.32.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pn9sm11235444pbb.22.2013.02.19.05.26.49 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:26:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:26:47 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting TR3 Mistral special in Belgium show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/19/13 6:18 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Neat looking car: > http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/classic-car-events/one-off-triumph-special-steals-the-show-in-belgium > > I have long lusted for a Devin bodied TR3 but the Mistral bodied TR3 is really nice as well. I wonder why no one has cleand it up and given it a new coat of paint? TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 06:38:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6095240646 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:38:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB00403F6 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:38:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from BobDell (69.0.52.209.adsl.snet.net [69.0.52.209]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MUYOp-1UFfFJ1nyV-00RKsu; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:31:49 -0500 From: "Bob" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "John Gillis" , References: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:31:58 -0500 tXpKl3f7PgmPRxod3aiWY4enNp3jZHesPSj+1phCrxGXFWp1F6 W9YejVjum/f2CoD+VS4z37lA+KAVZTHEe/U9DZ2Vg/Hhm1tRaa qSmb+pboxZ/wz/QZMqBCdTpzDWTglAwNtcjLgaxMrRgA2mE0+J al6j4eixqGd2srDBZaVhhut5CU4uoLIt2xD5RidpU5AEZ1SEXg 7fcfiGV43/943w3kBlHHGZmKhYiXOy6hro9qVe+GcWt1ASNLQr 7I0MPCkIFAblwoNBj6nnBfBpzGZUpcJadedxADF8Ji5givuvam Y/XC34ig4gvh89u/Hlh7i6fVdxJ7VvcX62IT+yeR2 Subject: Re: [TR] Demister hose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net McMaster carries a wide variety of flexible duct hose......... I got the Tear Resistant for Dust http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/238/=ljnnig for my TR6. Much better quality than the old stuff. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ 1975 TR6 modified with: -Throttle Body Injection -Toyota 5 Speed -Nissan Differential -AAW Wire Harness -CVJs... and more -----Original Message----- From: John Gillis Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:26 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Demister hose TR2 demister hose, is there an alternative to the paper and wire affair that unravels under the dashboard, and refuses to go back onto the vent or feed without crumpling up! I'm all for originality, but I bet the original stuff was of better quality than this. Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 06:41:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BDB4068C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:41:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980AE403FE for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:41:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail62-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.227) by DB3EHSOBE007.bigfish.com (10.3.84.27) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:36 +0000 Received: from mail62-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail62-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1227B3600B1; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:36 +0000 (UTC) IPV:NLI; H:BY2PRD0210HT005.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail62-db3: domain of uga.edu designates 157.56.236.245 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.236.245; envelope-from=mathews@uga.edu; helo=BY2PRD0210HT005.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail62-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail62-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 136128087449490_23592; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS007.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.251]) by mail62-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099FC320132; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0210HT005.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (157.56.236.245) by DB3EHSMHS007.bigfish.com (10.3.87.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:31 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (50.96.146.180) by pod51004.outlook.com (10.255.90.168) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.263.1; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:34:25 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" , 'Triumph Mail List' References: <51237D97.70400@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Interesting TR3 Mistral special in Belgium show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not certain where I heard this, but I've heard that in a lot of older card still original that leaving them with their accumulated patina maintains their value more. Obviously non-drivers though. Doug On 2/19/2013 8:26 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > I have long lusted for a Devin bodied TR3 but the Mistral bodied TR3 is > really nice as well. I wonder why no one has cleand it up and given it > a new coat of paint? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 09:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8588540E49 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:15:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A609F40412 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:14:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:08:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:08:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 16:08:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3339 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2013 16:08:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361290111; bh=bCumt9Xwl4yPM018zBSkQVgOxFBuhS+54XPun0Topv4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0hUt4ZFA+mglT0h0/3IbuBMd86iy2Vlib1FkGX0KSYoun7N7ajeUoT6w5WUurO+mOm0oVlhnGYvw+5P2uX+AVUtMtWrME/kWZQTNIfB/Hf4yGax+gDrE4IhNQYSPdEANhf75naw8XSvODz7uIoPo+MQJY7+4t3vB7+mA1BRIP6g= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eQWX8lF1qF/fDBZx1I1HHxC5atr7diWFVuSVEVAGJbctRx2VY2EMkk705lnKiORUmEayWzQiU3HOBMyC+4CXCtZ2dsN7s8TrJJLXYavh3oTS4kw0vLoHpS2jY6IsUXIJzrioShOrQQOanA86Mt7a36Fm2qNqFWX83T1ZfHcGOmQ=; uch82HQ1v.NKcF3iVeEHuAfT4QTlIXlYYFgzvkAxdu0nEvtf2oZE8WrpqHuJ QFBDDuZAyJMAg2Z40uqqsve7QKDSGk2usPvClwbR6eL3yyMK8tQsFvttM0Md TAsjMMU.reMpoSP0dci4a_9YxxTQOFV4EzbDtpGMRkZLCJ0oaFkQNB0.L1sM SR4zxUO6KoRshEtFlK6p4eQ4G3rfLIglIxQTwo6TDGqMyKZvAA9emPJTmLfz ujq5DGRJcZR4M_L9bW1OyMmx0GURcW9T2S8.HTIrIR2MH.EkVdKUYzCct7BO H.tUjCiR4a_68w9mPxpgHAhCd1sknpwx6mOSDZfJ11dHtcu8OiGTNIRaXQ2e EbaHpW9HYm9O2DET0O8ZFkFPU7ZL83hgPFZsoL0P13IO4rijZ7m5sUA3jjlt 11NOJbxrKyEXR8Zc23s8h0vScRFBdkZdFauOCZj2KO2.AliurXpBwpZiWZNF 6gC5u2JKV4V_N5RK4ZOXDd6qRoEiRLrqnZ5BY6tw3PizcqmbWS2H0ErK_fjk xLaEy87Aza1H0aK2csBT84s_3RCcMDGOuZ5afN.Jk0B4kkJg- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:30 PST eWVzCmxvdHMgb2YgYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmVzCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWNtYXN0ZXIuY29tLyNkdWN0LWhvc2UvPWxqcG9lZgrCoApGcmFuawoKRnJvbTogSm9obiBHaWxsaXMgPEpHSUxMSVNAdGNkLmllPgpUbzogInRyaXVtcGhzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0IiA8dHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBGZWJydWFyeSAxOSwgMjAxMyAxOjI2IEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtUUl0gRGVtaXN0ZXIgaG9zZQoKVFIyIGRlbWlzdGVyIGhvc2UsIGlzIHRoZXJlIGFuIGFsdGVybmF0aXZlIHRvIHRoZSABMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:30 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Fisher To: John Gillis , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Demister hose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net yes lots of alternatives http://www.mcmaster.com/#duct-hose/=ljpoef Frank From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: [TR] Demister hose TR2 demister hose, is there an alternative to the paper and wire affair that unravels under the dashboard, and refuses to go back onto the vent or feed without crumpling up! I'm all for originality, but I bet the original stuff was of better quality than this. Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 10:31:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF69040E33 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:31:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DD40C02 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:30:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 17:24:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 17:24:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 17:24:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 60197 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2013 17:24:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361294665; bh=sv4NdJb7DHFzAz81G0Ge21+cd/tFy0v1qqIHvBXMdPo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nrxS//bklG/FPm6OgYg+n1NqwhAG976yGdZdqHkby2sbG3dVE5C00hLLYj4ZEQO/LgF8MiSKghulBKg/1oByagTJbZGY1faELVatWjXJyLOxbc7+7YOvn8Ftz0zHBnu4sDDJLh/hwV6HB3ewNx0pz/OchXUNnFAzmnP5l7girmM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pzw9AUQXKlEEhrPdQrHEDS51do93wyucyS6RxQLbtfICD37qzRTGzZnTJT7Qi0VXdgR9eS1YWHQ5Nqzd8YBXCB8Ej8aHd75d6OaPE35U9CvGTot6Ccpmc+zeRA4VCiKQ+2tpJZHA9cH3VTNEs1X47FRFAtGu8XnR18dSyM81EE8=; XeUrvkyhZ4HyEZcgd_.vJA_3QGNtHToubiEl2_fwlVHYsG3oIOU68vqOGVOC 8P852NvAd5UhCFP6HXT3WeYavZdAgjBbP2i4r9zBQxCrNswh1uhg2BLbwC.o V65GkX5bVN9qlWTlJE5Z1xRKKdati2oW2glVj8pYTiz_7yH07slh1vj8KKTW lMxiLtdcIzakRLvWGC4iSo.1jQbwJz88VUsLaKPQVF6c7jkdzygf2vsTNGZu omrcBa63OnSt7JZum4AVjdE2dWKvOMdZK.fQEfENQusMOLPdHPf7XfGHYXJs 7boaxb.M68d9pXCNSRlE1p.dUDENfIsiFy.jo_WNr3vCTP65cYvsR7zlJJyI bW7gm1oLeK.vgqikO9fysXPk8y30xq6HeMXe4H7GC7X2G4s.qTCn._DXTqdL yTxr4GJgKvhfR_mffmFVHAdzQ2ivdhwsKs6AN.icLzmsQHKbUV84s Received: from [72.45.201.74] by web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:24:25 PST SGkgRGFuIQpZZXMsIGl0IGNhbiBiZSBkb25lICYgSSBoYXZlIGl0IHNldCB1cCBpbiBteSBUUjRBLCBOT1chIGFzIGl0IHdhcyBtZW50aW9uZWQgaW4gbXkgbGFzdCBkaWdlc3QsIHJhY2VycyBkbyB0aGlzLCBidXQgaW4gYSBkaWZmZXJlbnQgd2F5IHRoYXQgSSd2ZSBkb25lLiAoSSdtIE5PVCByYWNpbmcuKQrCoApJIGhhdmUgYSB0dWJlIHJ1biBVUCB0aGUgZW5naW5lIHRvIGFtIEVtcHR5IDEgcXQuIHBhaW50IHJlZHVjZXIgY2FuLiAodGhpcyBoYXMgYSBmdW5uZWwgdG9wIHdoaWNoIHRoZSB0dWJlIHJ1bnMBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Tr-Tr3 engine vent pipe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dan! Yes, it can be done & I have it set up in my TR4A, NOW! as it was mentioned in my last digest, racers do this, but in a different way that I've done. (I'm NOT racing.) I have a tube run UP the engine to am Empty 1 qt. paint reducer can. (this has a funnel top which the tube runs into when upside down. On the bottom of the can (which is really the top because the 1 qt. container is 'up-side down'.), is a brazed on pipe that hold an oil filler air filter cap. Everything is clamped so any excess oil can run BACK INTO the engine & ONLY the fumes can vent out if need to. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 12:41:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DDD40E3D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:41:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FBF406B2 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:40:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from JoePa2011 ([unknown] [96.249.153.70]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MIH00CMPFOT7YG0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:34:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph Laurito" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:34:06 -0500 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4OgyE/cinzId+eQMyaN4uw7+6cvgAVMsWA Subject: Re: [TR] Demister hose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TRF sells a wire wound polyurethane duct which is quite nice. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Gillis Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:26 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Demister hose TR2 demister hose, is there an alternative to the paper and wire affair that unravels under the dashboard, and refuses to go back onto the vent or feed without crumpling up! I'm all for originality, but I bet the original stuff was of better quality than this. Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trglory@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 19:51:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737C84054C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:51:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72BE403D0 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:51:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id fr10so7149793lab.40 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:44:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fcJ+PT1yGOwbct36EI1LVn6DUgSuo+Q5jT1JDGm35iM=; b=DRiDh4YrfkFPnnsHoexS8LsIsx4YAZotQdqUOgPXffRaaObN3J89YKkpBenWSWb7CD Q0kypBjxytQhMSjoSAr2wcB9ZiiN8A2C7IuWaEZ3ST/G0hX78mdIz7ziDC/JKj+Dbm1B OfRGLX3+AQXNEsqYdCdhct3P3hkxhf2cpamkiogBZu88/THkRu+cFPz6hWKZn/8JEpED VFt9f0ZYE2G62uWoXIQiyWAe/l68U+QQZyKE9vSmBn7Dv9OzgCI0jIkfDerAmwydHmpB LFf+H1itDz4pKq6HbAdkFCTl2JVIw7vWFQHWzYZmvMnyIlDh16ohjjXNsYIFLBcPTzoD Mb+A== oz20mr16198353lab.30.1361328274578; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:44:34 -0800 (PST) References: <005301ce0ed8$1596c410$40c44c30$@net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:44:34 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Demister hose Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I do like mcmaster carr. Just placed an order today. Bunch of hardware, rubber bumpers for the tr6 seats and a knob for locking down the spare. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 00:59:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23942488 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:59:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E82540E35 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:58:47 -0700 (MST) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 9941894-1739096 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:52:08 +1300 From: "ashleys" To: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:51:53 +1300 Subject: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi!,What does one look for changing long door TR2 gearbox with the later 1970 TR6 overdrive gearbox.Ie clutch/driveshaft.Any thoughts would be welcomed. Thanks, Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 02:14:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD764248A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:14:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3310242459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:12:32 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=XsdWs8m4oxgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GTdXuQbn9XIA:10 a=-_qA-0WG67zsLuitL7UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JUvjY3VjW9qdOANH:21 a=Ba7QvF9BxhhtgMbD:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 89/FF-25887-373E5215; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:05:56 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'ashleys'" , Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:06:08 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4QCHWn0TXvVkBSSTeSHvjKBPlCowABONHQ Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Hi!,What does one look for changing long door TR2 gearbox > with the later 1970 > TR6 overdrive gearbox.Ie clutch/driveshaft. Keep your old clutch setup, it will work with the TR6 box. You may need to do something creative with the clutch slave cylinder mounting, as the TR6 box is thicker in that area. On my TR3/A I just made up a shorter pushrod to account for the difference (but it has the Girling slave instead of Lockheed so your solution may be different). I installed the TR2/3 brass bushings to carry the clutch operating shaft, and added zerks so they could be greased. Not necessary, but should reduce wear in that area. The driveshaft will bolt right up, the sliding spline has enough range to cover the slight increase in overall length. Be sure to replace the Nyloc nuts. I prefer to use all-metal lock nuts (aka Stover nuts) as I've found that even new Nylocs will back off sometimes. Note that the bolts are specials but available from the usual suspects. Slot the holes in the rear crossmember, to allow for the extra length (about 3/8" or one bolt width). I also had to fold down the lip at the back so it wouldn't rub on the mount. You'll probably need longer studs and bolts on the back of the engine. The studs can't be too long though, or the output flange will hit the tunnel when trying to R&R the gearbox with the engine still in the car. Although not necessary, I swapped the TR6 shift linkage components into an early top cover, so I could keep the dipstick. If you do keep the TR6 top cover, you'll probably want to install the TR2 shift lever, which may require drilling out the holes on the sides. The TR6 lever will work, but is longer (and curved) and just looks odd to me. Of course you'll need the OD wiring if you don't already have it, but that's covered in the manual. I added an in-line fuse in the hot wire to the relay, so the fuse will open if the solenoid gets stuck in some manner and the cutout contacts don't open. Hopefully that will save the solenoid from overheating and letting out the smoke. Of course that means the OD will drop out, potentially over-revving the engine, but I figure that will happen anyway when the solenoid burns up and my engine doesn't seem to mind brief excursions to 6k rpm. I used an 8 amp "slow blow" fuse just because I've got a bunch of them, but an ordinary 10 amp (or even 5 amp) fuse should do fine. The original relay lasted a long time; but replacements seemed to fail quickly until I added a snubber diode from the load terminal to ground. Not being a stickler for originality (obviously), I just used an ordinary Bosch/Tyco type automotive relay from the local parts store. It's probably worth doing a pressure test on the OD, and replacing the isolator switches before installing it in the car. I put in an iffy switch for 2nd gear and I'm regretting it now as it stopped working the other day. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 15:11:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27A42498 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:11:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9A74247E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:11:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 95A2D380000FA for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-med001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4D1EBE000085 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:04:32 -0500 (EST) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Full-name: Loumetelko Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:04:31 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361484272; bh=9SCYvfsmdGZCTIDKEqxySxCnzsJf6S3c+U6Tg7NX7B4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Rjhv86vI1ErfEJQ3iEgIynUvsOq96E03uhvfSwcJqLslNPRxzd5OU6XIFfhCGVUe5 YaFpY20HJ25rPqT2XVAdiutQ9RJHW5+NXEyvpgH0JhNBCE74zCtp271fjcn531lSXt 9gRTjHU60TjsEZ78TMc6dpT8owTn6WRID6Gt4+ns= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c512699f01adf Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi!,What does one look for changing long door TR2 gearbox with the later 1970 TR6 overdrive gearbox.Ie clutch/driveshaft.Any thoughts would be welcomed. Ashley: Let me get this straight - You have a TR2 Long Door and you want to use a TR6 transmission. Why would you purposely ruin the rarest of the rare? Sounds like someone just gave you a free TR6 transmission with overdrive. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 15:43:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0883424A7 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:43:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9661D4247A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:43:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gg13so118672lbb.30 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:36:35 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=yHv5F0fRug6388NLNocUZIiuqqLWT4vLO9akrirxQ2E=; b=pjF/K5mi4Vv1k1o2oYwEoip+FbbTG5DFf3z/3blkcJlqn+CYjcfRcCFl0RosIg9vai PdofuZbjr6ElISLGfPg/1VnUPhqsTaak/nvXp7K/Zqk89EEY3Q1XjYo2WB17jugVqLwY Nqq4aGHa/AC+yRgklvSnRj81CkggqJcgzMbwGHOTuJtmKxljO9TrvnNN6PzyzLloZ/+R pCzg246JOfqv/uZkjepKHGN4jk6foIXYPw2VNj4gevK0hASTskGUy2ghLxAu75krcAG+ epLlKjNMxS90ILL2PsgSvZpynC8bUdU/4iq7AjSeh82XJPUvb6IthUO6VGU20aqs4QDA EZFw== tk2mr22801815lab.24.1361486195602; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:36:15 -0800 (PST) References: <475b1.693347af.3e57f3ef@aol.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:36:15 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a longdoor TR2 - The original transmission is not an overdrive and was, well overdue for a rebuild. I put a TR4 transmission in the car for now and I'm looking for an old overdrive I can rebuild and I'll put that in there next. I've saved the original transmission for the future caretaker of this car. I've kept all the original bits and boxed them carefully for the future owner. I recommend you do the same. The TR4 transmission was still a bit of work to fit. Slotted the transmission mount and also loosened up the motor mounts and pulled the engine as far forward as any slop would allow. It's just a bit longer than the TR2 but fit and all covers bolt down nicely. Clutch slave cylinder bolted up just fine . I seem to recall the TR4 transmission flange is thicker than the TR2 so it may be a similar exercise to fit the tr6 transmission. No issues with driveshaft. If unsure - I'd go ahead and replace the universal joints while you have it out. Since you have an early TR2 - you'll have the push pull overdrive switch that fits into the dash vs the toggle switch version. I'd connect that to an external relay and control the overdrive wiring that way. I still want an overdrive, I feel so bad when I take the TR2 on the highway and the RPMs are over 4000 to get to 70mph. It must have a low gear in the diff. Until then, we'll motor on and stay off the big roads as much as possible. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 18:49:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276EB42492 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:49:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6EA40446 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:49:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr13so108986vbb.31 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:42:34 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gNM7+m0nXqOKj/+kCtF9htGAXpy3iVd29CsOWcsrirs=; b=F8nFdiihoN+0hzDq6hIqOSQX9pULl5xroBwT23ezo8bqTKMs1DqVWVbZr1BEP8sy6/ xx6CTpmOTejKVepxXpiU9F+fUF09Nbm5nASZKZomIDVV5fdlKTO3zyJlVnsUzDcTObAx Qz3exzlAtsJIiWIezSHaeENKdnsJUFmg/3Wk5gv+0gWGCphbVKpKcPnIGXhBVIU/x8TL Qa044v0ASNCgQN7pUK3zsXl8zmcwSG7EYFmRzP2sAodytQxtnyEOYxDIIrDBGdMyimrD ebzmHx2ACg5FcsPnTp8Bvjyu7aSJuXZ4uo1I5Ud1xWdzvzH7pAo8ZdOQL1evI/w+1vmI NYzg== k7mr330242vce.12.1361497353928; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.147.81 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:42:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:42:33 -0500 From: alan salvatore To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any shippers. I'm not familar to many; I've used uship.com, but I think he might want a regular carrier. TR6 from SC to Houston, Tx. Any suggestions? Thanks, Al ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 18:56:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81164249E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:56:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BADE40446 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:56:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3Djh1l0021ei1Bg5BDq4Z8; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:50:04 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3Dq41l00R2xV5no3kDq4dD; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:50:04 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:50:04 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Loumetelko@aol.com s=q20121106; t=1361497804; bh=raj/CUjIzb9GTwJJk3JKnFyMS7Bui8AlBSqgkX8xsYQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Y5UcNSisBuLz+UTq/omL3whsddkAdQoI0TQjNpc9FV4JWCVprfkiioxgFdFkOTvnv +d555bPL2Cht0zQXrYy06NP+dUhc3e4i3ThfiXgUVPNKxUUw3TmYR6mY9aCYqb0vXo Ky9JAshTZLE8Gn5VVZhVhd/R4laYQZEZ9YRubmiavNuI4EUnaESIdyxhHTgGDVKjOT VyUOf31fCkiuk3kNMpekQHqtK4SsLYy8mIYXiFGZ2bC+LaC4ARWgqgTDectmGs7QVH hi7JuQcSniuZ+JZYCw/5wfa3tGkYPbI7pbci1dpUJ06zpLXOywdwZo2dN0d+ED3Tqx JDKU2uYMWncgw== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Lou, Would you be happy if the TR2 gearbox was converted to o/d? One could remove the o/d from the TR6 'box and install it on the original TR2's. Just need a mainshaft. Ed ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 21:44:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A6B424A8 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:44:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0995B4248B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:43:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3GaP1l0030QkzPwADGd2lB; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:37:02 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3Gd21l00V2xZMJ48NGd2LN; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:37:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:37:02 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: alan salvatore s=q20121106; t=1361507822; bh=w+U+tBYzbGdiQ2toFgHW+Flj1TVoxJ5dD55Bl9nn468=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Ukq7ZZQDd8qxGGgXg/EmsbWy+IKmGbiURooSjLOgALmsfzfqil2mw0cLNwjI0stIF baKzUcUt7+PCKh8kGSFaQI/61huY1vU/kNe8C6A+l4XhAFoBXg1JaJ/0tN2Okobs9B eklOfF07Uj2XG6TO8Kr1SIsDsLCN0ND6kRMwF3dVbht7tx8YRd4qZTcDMKXVvA0J9A KDR1Tr1mjH22kvh7Gg8b7/oXam0Gx3+OedH/ActCx3VNLvDY2VAu1Ho9sbZYKTARmK HZP4jsw8OaiyXEIkhNKKD6Dd4KRWmkXuAeKb0RLJw9khVsSjOQouhcqI3ems/Mr6O4 rntdxuitNcVxg== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like Passport. Actually founded by a guy named Pass. I've shipped a few cars with them. Do NOT go through a broker. You wind up with Bubba and his girlfriend Darlene. I have seen this happen. Always deal with the company that owns the trucks. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alan salvatore" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:42:33 PM > Subject: [TR] car haulers > I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any > shippers. > > I'm not familar to many; I've used uship.com, but I think he might > want a > regular carrier. > > TR6 from SC to Houston, Tx. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Al > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 21:47:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E03424AD for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:47:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F236E4248B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:46:56 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=XsdWs8m4oxgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GTdXuQbn9XIA:10 a=10PaRiiHnqZh7V_maDEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55037] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 9E/2F-25866-0B6F6215; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:40:16 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:40:31 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4Qnv0/qzn5LjDFQIaNUaR2P2GiPAAFlGOQ Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing TR2 gearbox with TR6 gearbox Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Would you be happy if the TR2 gearbox was converted to o/d? > One could remove the o/d from the TR6 'box and install it on > the original TR2's. Just need a mainshaft. "Just" he says, like changing the mainshaft is as easy as changing a tire! And some light modifications to the adapter plate IIRC. The difference wasn't much, but ISTR that unless you remove some metal, the TR6 plate won't sit properly on the back of the 3-synchro gearbox. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 02:36:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8614424A1 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:36:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F43403D4 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:36:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8b84b.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.184.75]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MIM002UM7P1E220@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:29:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:33:15 -0500 From: George Richardson To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1371857968.563448.1361507822248.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I can second this, I dealt with a company in Florida that took my payment and scheduled the pickup and delivery, but nodoby showed. Then we began a dance that ended with the truck (Land Rover Discovery) being picked up while no-one was around, and delivered to my driveway at midnight while I was asleep by two Russin guys who barely spoke english. If it hadn't been for the fact that I managed to the get the supposedly non-operting truck started, I think they would have just dopped it blocking my driveway and left. Plus, they wanted additional expenses "for their trouble". George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 2/21/2013 11:37 PM, pethier@comcast.net wrote: > I like Passport. Actually founded by a guy named Pass. > > I've shipped a few cars with them. > > Do NOT go through a broker. You wind up with Bubba and his girlfriend Darlene. I have seen this happen. Always deal with the company that owns the trucks. > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "alan salvatore" >> To: triumphs@autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:42:33 PM >> Subject: [TR] car haulers >> I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any >> shippers. >> >> I'm not familar to many; I've used uship.com, but I think he might >> want a >> regular carrier. >> >> TR6 from SC to Houston, Tx. >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Al >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 07:20:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB256424AB for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:20:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13126403D5 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:19:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so664168lab.9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:13:07 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=y6Cggf5FC48AbbKNIyqo3ZufSwk/jBkua43sz7vuetQ=; b=lL+vRbXMGFLEw8mlQVEmMiqK9nzgqUGijN7uuN4dIkElrrzfRw7jfZtcxpDpFSIXHT P53PxZYVB4aRhf5Dk0QcPnf2tLUW0XPF7Qh3bHuqrUIkcvtH+h5Fk6wXbM+DlvmuuhES n1+/t+OsCSCdEH92sfIXoYSaUk/rSNzmvaif18spb7LNmVz8VmeDGaaJIqTgunGS/PGt LsL1PSP1Ok7JSyLm1kM3+i1dOO0na8zLqk+l0/54caKmd2/om7LsA3AYsPeQBk1pv/WA VIh3VLGK6w9Fw7IMiIp+qr2pVn8nSr1+kMYI1JVCILIiR/XT/iCww+sR3yShp98fwDRe Wcug== ie5mr1896277lab.31.1361542387341; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.199 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:13:07 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:13:07 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: alan salvatore Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Certainly a service we often need but rife with risks and incompetence. The big names (Passport & Intercity) are pretty sound choices for enclosed transport but may also be the priciest. I recently shipped a car using a sole-proprietor set-up, a couple of brothers with an enclosed 30' trailer. They picked up the car in Oregon on a Saturday afternoon and were at my place (Tucson) first thing Monday morning. They could have been there Sunday evening but I didn't want to unload in the dark. My car (and some boxes of parts) was the only thing in the trailer. I liked working with just one family, no driver/crew changes, no unloading & reloading en route and no '68 Camaro leaking oil on my new car. The outfit is Double D Transport based in San Jose. The contact is Bruce Daniel (though his brother Myles & Myles' adult son Christopher did the delivery). They are federally licensed and insured (I ran the numbers through the govt system). Bruce's number is 408-340-0864. Some info here: http://www.uship.com/profile/doubledtrans1/ There are probably many competent, honest independents doing this sort of work but they can be hard to find. Geo On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any > shippers. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 08:04:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7C4424A9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:04:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD92403DB for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:04:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 14:57:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.129] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 14:57:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp216.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 14:57:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361545065; bh=Q5QcTT/h5EMoltZiK59ap6JdJ9U82QFb2KcTrpSRNes=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=J6KTrj1QBMvdTieeXWSAC3VplqQk7E6Ssy3jJ23kFYXt0EQiCUT1mz5vzHOZOOxPHvyK9zPyaF+o/fcKNfIRP4IRDc4T2pTeR6elB5GrOmZfc4y7fA3tOK1+vQSKP3mBrAkoNlXNt0mHt3mXdxUZMddiBxbps2Z677CZr9Nqi8g= HWdg749j97Jj2FG7Uo1Kcj.vTgsjeGD98sP3HdHLdu0SNGcEI6GI36NfiMd2 L.1Cvb0yUBDpCu18O.U_8xNqWyBMRBlMZ5XVLQWeUacd1wOxPPtx5dPi834U UHBMN_pdiBOGeZimtjZi34duyqU6Z5EJJgMt_1GPzqhf2eUYsK3peXnIrFpo PPQy4y7TVxYiDyZfS8y9iRnXAKTG_iBYxuUF7wirSc_BoSrjVf95kBiGudNZ wgjyTlBvtKb14VnjNxEXMQCDTjxIHhXHqMO.yqkPq3tsEKkmmzaC14hL821Z 1klrfc1HdmRn0qAOcmFZoGKPtl7n1uxz1Pc9yeMzXRV28raOfQ93QdOPxFCe eyPwMMeJFTYFY_l9PPkt_t4EcR4BKKLqsRMcW_7icyh6xr8LbMvdsPAiEwzC IvH1lv3Gdrv7GmOBK8WyDiMXYQoTe3fByyCESYPknkQTIrkVEIhv8wxadbb2 M8FUcAzTqI0pnS0DMrmWIO8gzQ.pXbdxcZTy2tQr02xgivV3zJYVsfs50iuw RgblVkjuVY8GvpwzKfGxBNDPwJ5eVkB5aEYy7dEaA9.EQULNovnz1gFFRYlZ a9Pwq5SIeF9ylF14prfczXx.UT5FX61tHNWwQHyRGcqZQHA_SlIsuAbOKfdb YUMB_9kyeapYUAWTkD75ldc7d08qgKR.jD5pGkycP5JcmvIhcfiHejQlHxcn E Received: from [192.168.1.103] (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with plain) by smtp216.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2013 06:57:45 -0800 PST References: <1371857968.563448.1361507822248.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <51273B5B.8000103@key-men.com> From: WBEECH Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:57:40 -0600 To: George Richardson Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Whether you use a broker or owner-operator, get recommendations. I have done both with excellent service and no problems. Most recently a broker arranged for eBay-purchased Land Rover, he did a great job bringing it from SoCal to Texas in two days with great communication all the way. Sent from mobile Bill On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:33 AM, George Richardson wrote: I can second this, I dealt with a company in Florida that took my payment and scheduled the pickup and delivery, but nodoby showed. Then we began a dance that ended with the truck (Land Rover Discovery) being picked up while no-one was around, and delivered to my driveway at midnight while I was asleep by two Russin guys who barely spoke english. If it hadn't been for the fact that I managed to the get the supposedly non-operting truck started, I think they would have just dopped it blocking my driveway and left. Plus, they wanted additional expenses "for their trouble". George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 2/21/2013 11:37 PM, pethier@comcast.net wrote: > I like Passport. Actually founded by a guy named Pass. > > I've shipped a few cars with them. > > Do NOT go through a broker. You wind up with Bubba and his girlfriend Darlene. I have seen this happen. Always deal with the company that owns the trucks. > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "alan salvatore" >> To: triumphs@autox.team.net >> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:42:33 PM >> Subject: [TR] car haulers >> I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any >> shippers. >> >> I'm not familar to many; I've used uship.com, but I think he might >> want a >> regular carrier. >> >> TR6 from SC to Houston, Tx. >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Al >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 08:21:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937E540441 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:21:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com (mail-qc0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B13D4040B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:21:28 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id j3so680508qcs.20 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:14:41 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3HPqt2g9ACqxYhi+Jrd9+CSve6hqhL7+c9Rj6o21b8M=; b=WDb0H+GVf1CGWOlmiSgbjPSC+Bz7fEv5umZ+GJlgamxIEzjsm3Qf0ZBaqs72p3QOmG DOV++f/sIZCAIzvAFsU9ssaJUaH8kg/4o6XTPQuRW9LV/9q4pMmwsH8Q7PuBrkSTSOTh VKHeyWJQ/MgFcZFLKMD5T4U4K46uh61AIttXzqSvVrF5ETs4MqHo0uq0blZX4pIBQUcz u/vdX3Vy8Qp1ZEaYCWJH/1MPkvgjnjSiKF595tsXM0OkUFqYPZ4/haZhMonzgwphAd2u A2TadjZkffc4Mey8QDW9NOjiCyUof6oMWZoV3nRUql5G6abQ6WS5aL7lvsZuU7Eh7FTq Yo7g== nr7mr3056047qeb.49.1361632481336; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.118.4 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:14:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:14:41 -0500 From: darrell floyd To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Judson Supercharger wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I am searching for a Judson for my 63 TR4. Ideally, I it would be a complete, ready to bolt on unit. If anyone can help I would ready appreciate it. Please e-mail me off List. Thanks, Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 10:08:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C5540515 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:08:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E23D403F3 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3sYv1l0021ZMdJ4AEt04lL; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:00:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.81] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3t021l00j4L5TyG8ct03G6; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:00:03 +0000 From: Bud R To: alan salvatore Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:00:02 -0700 References: s=q20121106; t=1361638804; bh=9OYjdFPgIq69Sv/GxOv2VUWZViGGFGCwz5BUUYweMyE=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=lsoDclTKIU1ljbp5QnFLd+YZuXTCk0yQIlwxV1uQqVguliJBuVmWv9ngV9QJlwuOP EhOeeYq8b2UFmBq+z/BlKUaahgc/5Une1/Rf0uCYwgc+wCx+5cOQcHdUoeacPJSZSi cfDx4WpZT0gXSHrIkBQr0hpW3P8CpFIwpl1uyQLorb7lDzAfZlag+HmogCpDEpIC54 xRX4Mj98N02yGmpsmDdkZ9wWXvVk+rBOKMR423XHQaKQdkEgX52Zvf8PSmEht8JbPJ HRPqabR9oyYpjkLKGy+IXO1ddNNUnibu2ajS2HEW+KobvqHAByPW2e2AoW1oodmDxH mISNrlI3nlSeg== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Lamb Transports hauled a car for me recently from New Jersey to Denver. I wanted lift service (car is low to the ground) and covered transport. I went through a broker which was OK but the hauling and delivery was well done so I'd contact them directly if I needed that service again. http://www.lambautotransports.com/ Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:42 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > I've sold my long time friend and the buyer asked me if I know of any > shippers. > > I'm not familar to many; I've used uship.com, but I think he might > want a > regular carrier. > > TR6 from SC to Houston, Tx. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Al > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 09:37:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C58740513 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:37:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A1B403C8 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:37:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.96.156]) by p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 4GWC1l0013NSEVS01GWCVQ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:30:13 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:30:12 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4SrATVPXXJfmCtS9qdy82SK63qhQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] door pull needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: I am completing the restoration of a small-mouth TR3 and all I need now are the cable door pulls which I can't seem to find anywhere. Does anyone on the list have a pair ? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 12:18:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444840531 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:18:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3694051E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:17:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8b84b.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.184.75]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MIQ00B24NXIVQJ0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:10:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:11:04 -0500 From: George Richardson To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <020d01ce12ac$397ab120$ac701360$@uprichard.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 Subject: Re: [TR] door pull needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Macy's Garage has these: http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/Parts/other_tr2_3_parts.htm#TR2/3%20Door%20Latch%20Pull%20Straps George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 2/24/2013 11:30 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > List: > > > > I am completing the restoration of a small-mouth TR3 and all I need now are > the cable door pulls which I can't seem to find anywhere. Does anyone on > the list have a pair ? > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 12:45:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB54051D for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:45:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BA740453 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 12:42:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7A0351C000111 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.137]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 433F3E000088 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:35:12 -0500 (EST) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Joe Alexander Received: from 66.75.115.101 by webmail-d093.sysops.aol.com (205.188.255.4) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:35:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:35:12 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361734512; bh=WVgPz0qkgLO/f/55WABYWZVp7DgKvgvJZJc64C6Dl6M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nLyrR0Wx7KZoqhmYBt47khgmdoTa+1fEgN8IDuwJ+ZzP3rVbBdhksoNmrEIuGD4oP jLpaih8eFYfuoQan0+SrQ79p5qUR/yzEEl8atxiOu/POH1U/8/xQiCUrpfWcFHB6LN br0V11GAZANooICXMZ5AaPsJqd7UeDYYQ5bU1H6M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908512a6b7045f0 Subject: [TR] Door Pulls and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, I got mine a long time ago from TRF. It also occurs to me that they could easily be made up with cable and black tubing. BTW, Andrew, we have Detroit folks coming into the Kastner Cup at Road America in September. AND I am looking for a TR250 to show at the Gathering on the Green. There is a selection committee and, if true to past years, the selected owner gets two weekend passes. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-request To: triumphs Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2013 12:54 pm Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71 Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to triumphs@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to triumphs-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at triumphs-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..." Today's Topics: 1. door pull needed (Andrew Uprichard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:30:12 -0500 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Subject: [TR] door pull needed List: I am completing the restoration of a small-mouth TR3 and all I need now are the cable door pulls which I can't seem to find anywhere. Does anyone on the list have a pair ? Andrew Uprichard ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Triumphs mailing list Triumphs@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71 *************************************** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 13:03:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C35E40526 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:03:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F2D4044E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:02:55 -0700 (MST) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=8b7V8x78XGIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Nw0xvuWKqWMA:10 a=GXyLqLoOkN8bYgP8LpQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FC/AA-00734-1507A215; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:56:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:56:02 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4Sxox6gTKuH6g/RnimEhHcdyS0igAAajMg Subject: Re: [TR] Door Pulls and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I got mine a long time ago from TRF. > > It also occurs to me that they could easily be made up with > cable and black tubing. The early cars (TR2-TR3 up to TS22013) used a different pull, which consisted of a leather core covered with finished vinyl (or maybe the outer was leather too) in interior color. Since they hang on the outside of the door panel, using the later 'cable' pulls would look funny IMO. I don't know of a source of the early pulls already made up, but I believe Mark Macy sells the finisher on the end and it shouldn't be too hard to fabricate the rest. If you do find a source, please let me know as I need them too. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 14:26:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B273A40653 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:26:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F0F40536 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:26:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4DRm1l00F0bG4ec53MK7yu; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:19:07 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4MK71l00G2xV5no3PMK7kW; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:19:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1361740747; bh=j4E7EndWxtKHbadFIn4yo0+cZVhnbsUkgY94APfAPwA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=g2HyTKT6RIzmMATAPPemzaSGwWIMMPWg/1MQ3I6aWW8B9rs2+tnqjs46o0jbsswrt 598c6iACx7Dz8RSIS5YD296mJE7eDpav2yAGCKQ2Von2C9j1u65ShtMDnkYMu7hXGr YZV5pQTsO0p1uJAJ2bGRCu8JNkgCuo1ebukin2ld92Q8zJEsmAaA+ubzKuHEFFNm51 Gbq/1lvrtHcCOBADI0jsLfWEODUsgJD/LkMPLu7B04sCoOUzKzmjL15S3PU7KfuJG0 6UQ4oOlPeNED5hJnlPj18oiqkGDkutjpHIv4D3/Plv5UuBZ6FUNtNexegYqSF4FoS9 8imYGpE/cnmsQ== Subject: [TR] TR3A Air Filters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nearly March. Spent part of the day using my John Deere 210C loader to out our our driveway that's three football fiels long. Spent the other part of the day changing engine and tranny oil on the 3. Wanted to change the air cleaners. Have run paper for the past several years, but forgot how to source them. Ones I have are oval instead of round, so don't really fit too well (get in the way of the gasline). What paper filters can I get that fit the standard SU's? (Nope, don't want the K&N's.) Thanks, everyone! Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 17:09:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40314065A for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:09:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EDA40535 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:09:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8b84b.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.184.75]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MIR00LVV1FTNUB0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:02:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:03:02 -0500 From: George Richardson To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 Subject: Re: [TR] Door Pulls and more Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Macy's sell the entire kit. You just need to cover it with matching fabric. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 2/24/2013 2:56 PM, Randall wrote: >> I got mine a long time ago from TRF. >> >> It also occurs to me that they could easily be made up with >> cable and black tubing. > The early cars (TR2-TR3 up to TS22013) used a different pull, which > consisted of a leather core covered with finished vinyl (or maybe the outer > was leather too) in interior color. Since they hang on the outside of the > door panel, using the later 'cable' pulls would look funny IMO. > > I don't know of a source of the early pulls already made up, but I believe > Mark Macy sells the finisher on the end and it shouldn't be too hard to > fabricate the rest. If you do find a source, please let me know as I need > them too. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 17:10:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E334D4068E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:10:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f51.google.com (mail-da0-f51.google.com [209.85.210.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CD340535 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:10:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f51.google.com with SMTP id n15so1189886dad.10 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:03:33 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=463CuENVdTRGxDoxhFKIqsKm5wwpTlYPquC7GmuUJPs=; b=Nnnxijt6KM0TCk76DQwq9fo+HAqp464NvRxDZZfhcG1Ix6s/P+YAqUIf6F/nWJLPyo dbKc5/JTUHGiZQViQuWKSSd8kp8nfNNEOPr0r3elkmN2Bk0urSFi4KjvUKu4qQ6CvfzI Z54UYg6LNTwlnVEK7URsC1d7A0NXl8Glbtxf3g+aCVVJxX70/GElkCE78BjQ8AWwhPTp vMpQGYti71Rzzun5mjQb+x8003UH+im40HyTOoPnTaNt/oDRJRCPIt6F16YeAyL05WtZ 7uIysOm7rxxYb8rq71q6JhWdk8Q4YuyuTyg8VyHGliEBJQqTuTWTFS5aOSWAVneGcCbQ xPQg== ch2mr15985441pad.152.1361750613886; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-32-24.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.32.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9sm11512708paw.1.2013.02.24.16.03.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:03:27 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <020d01ce12ac$397ab120$ac701360$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] door pull needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2/24/13 9:30 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > > I am completing the restoration of a small-mouth TR3 and all I need now are > the cable door pulls which I can't seem to find anywhere. Does anyone on > the list have a pair ? > > I used bicycle brake cables. Cut them to size and installed them. They work just fine. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 18:52:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1384A4069D for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:52:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5564055B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:51:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id m18so1438472vcm.8 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:44:53 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4ZS720KYgySzL+/wRCoZhlV7gNPAUL9H6kxJmpwnXVE=; b=sgPJdVfUJ65T16mNCyXGu4I4Z3b7p6t2zJc0XEjBnd3SQ//LRyCbLP282nl+l1nGYg 5ilnGVIoM3i4GUk8NzKQTEL3kuv4nQqjikYJuS32CCtyJJcr/pz1tF1sSCQ9eXw/C4po OvspMwFKvRoNOVtCUtaAzeC22AHLjHWwU95nvfN1vEwtSK8kRE2GDB35Ud+NVQ51zJo+ tvg+CKZ/J9xBcwth5IK+GGO/4AhCpcglat1JhNhfXaIhvMhfWT+rMVFcoZ6HGzYYVcTJ +GKcfuxCwzBHHWjhFp5A7j+VRpFjJIJtfHHEXOqZv97h/B8/RSo1zCO5zLp6YT6drsaM yQ7g== r7mr7857047vdj.108.1361756693217; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.147.81 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:44:53 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:44:53 -0500 From: alan salvatore To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] car haulers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for the evaporative loss coupling which connects the plastic tubing from the gas tank to the carbon canister. It was used on 72-76 TR6's. I can make up the hoses, but I really need the restrictor ; Moss # 379-260. www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32758 Mine must have fallen off the car on the transporter from the body shop. If you have one, PM me with a price. Thanks, Al ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 18:53:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09E040563 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:53:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4914055B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:53:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ft2so1420584vbb.23 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:46:48 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=h/Qcu7ISwmu6GBKM65bTluDiYEVjAnGg+1i73l1MLFg=; b=kWWCORGWLGSwWavo3UCqi7tpGB6xIk2zfFnlWsi/jJWKBDoVcpiQLBvE9grJAPExEW ZqFaTodhFQBnoAtBXZ9EJ4knqIg9vz927Uxug59TSHxHC97N8vzfW0Tb0Gh2Oj5SC1C2 SE+Lr9OBafLDcnbqIzbW2Mv4UtyJDFau0Kuv6skUJtO8yJSDRCMc8G8QLxI1Co0P7Den jsWroGO5h7DOPon48L/5txuXP5TiT3xZGsw0k2a6S21W/KMJrgdz8+ZuivSHdVi8WQhZ 0H8xK62D6N7ZxIKiQMid5En4a8NHsobt1KTUMPok7+gAyl2uv8JZmOpFk0j7TiHrzrbz nqFQ== i8mr7966129vdg.113.1361756808028; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.147.81 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:46:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:46:47 -0500 From: alan salvatore To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Evaporative loss coupling Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am looking for the evaporative loss coupling which connects the plastic tubing from the gas tank to the carbon canister. It was used on 72-76 TR6's. The hole thing is about 6 inches long. I can make up the hoses, but I really need the restrictor ; Moss # 379-260. www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32758 Mine must have fallen off the car on the transporter from the body shop. If you have one, PM me with a price. Thanks, Al ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 19:59:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236BD4054B for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:59:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1B04044E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:59:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from smithsPC (ool-45719ee9.dyn.optonline.net [69.113.158.233]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MIR00L3L9B6NAE0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:52:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:52:20 -0500 From: WILLIAM SMITH To: tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu, triumphs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4TASckmsRW9rlYTWiKiHa+oSsRzw== Subject: [TR] Wedge Tires & Rims For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Someone who contacted our local club got rid of his TR8 and wants to sell tires and rims that didn't go with the car. I went to see them, but passed on them - they all had been sitting outside and I was looking for some that were pristine and ready to go on the car. The items for sale are: - 4 stock style alloy rims - 4 new (stickers still on tread) Hoosier 205/60zr13 tires - 4 Goodyear Eagle ST 205/60R13 tires (date code in 2008 and very good tread - looks to be hardly used) They are located in Caldwell, NJ and the contact is: Greg Cowell 508-436-0374 cowellgreg@gmail.com NFI Bill Bill Smith 1980 TR7 DHC 1972 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 20:44:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BE64044F for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:44:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D465403FD for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:44:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.199.98.184]) by p3plsmtpa08-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 4Td61l0073yhgMS01Td7iN; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:37:08 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <020d01ce12ac$397ab120$ac701360$@uprichard.net> <512AAA4F.3090501@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:37:08 -0500 Thread-Index: AQKWI5YHBpc9DqOrwvFhPp/X7Xb79AHKum8Jlut1cRA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] door pull needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry if I wasn't clear, but this is for a small-mouth TR3, not a 3A. Bicycle cables don't work here. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:03 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] door pull needed On 2/24/13 9:30 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > > I am completing the restoration of a small-mouth TR3 and all I need > now are the cable door pulls which I can't seem to find anywhere. > Does anyone on the list have a pair ? > > I used bicycle brake cables. Cut them to size and installed them. They work just fine. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 22:07:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75C04051D for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:07:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1294041E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:07:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id 4V0Y1l00953lu5001V0ZV7; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:00:33 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:58:50 -0600 Subject: [TR] webers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net hi, all. my mechanic recently sold me, very cheap! a weber downdraft to replace the anemic single zs carb on our 75 sptifire. herebs a picture of it: www.ranteer.com/misc it seems to us that at full throttle the butterflies should be open, not closed. when you pull on what we think is the accererator, it close the butterflies, not opens them. what am I missing? thanks! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 22:11:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34C340518 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:11:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E82E40066 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:11:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCE2A07F3 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:06:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:06:32 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: Triumphs References: Subject: Re: [TR] webers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Those plates at the top are the chokes, not the throttle plates you are thinking of. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 23:29:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524EA40516 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:29:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154484044E for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:28:33 -0700 (MST) a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:17 a=xkgW_vOJTMkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=hFM4dKeOtqAA:10 a=WStUv0MaIvmkWTvKRsMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ah2uuwNQbHCDlgzV:21 a=CxkngaY_RDdIbtrf:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ptCbTxHMTH2LYklOmjYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=GIF-X1gpOjEHIzfF:21 a=jDkdnrkWstximMMY+JpnFw==:117 Received: from [72.130.69.175] ([72.130.69.175:59952] helo=Lambert1) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 61/BD-02677-1F20B215; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 06:21:38 +0000 From: "D&B Lambert" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:20:40 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4TIDwfs7eOMexcQRew6SWb3Uakvg== Subject: [TR] TR6 Door Skin Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After removing the paint from the drivers door on my 71 TR6 restoration project I find that door has sustained accident damage some time in it's past and was apparently repaired by the cheapest, fastest method: plenty of filler. No rust on the door, just lots and lots of bondo - about 3/8 of an inch in places. Can anyone comment on the difficulty of installing a new door skin? The door frame seems to be fine. I could try to tap out the dents and shrink the panel back into shape, but my body working skills are somewhat mediocre. Any been-there-done-that experience in installing new door skins that anybody can relate? Door skins are not cheap, but I'm not wanting to simply re-stuff the door with bondo like some DPO was. As always, thanks. Dennis Orange, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 25 05:49:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E69940518 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 05:49:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C724040F for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 05:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail154-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.221) by CO1EHSOBE021.bigfish.com (10.243.66.84) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:09 +0000 Received: from mail154-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail154-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4FFC60206; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:09 +0000 (UTC) IPV:NLI; H:BY2PRD0210HT004.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail154-co1: domain of uga.edu designates 157.56.236.245 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.236.245; envelope-from=mathews@uga.edu; helo=BY2PRD0210HT004.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail154-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail154-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1361796127632564_27658; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS009.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.199]) by mail154-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E15A2004B; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0210HT004.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (157.56.236.245) by CO1EHSMHS009.bigfish.com (10.243.66.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:07 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (50.96.70.188) by pod51004.outlook.com (10.255.90.167) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.263.1; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:42:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:41:58 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: D&B Lambert , 'Triumph Mail List' References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Door Skin Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Door skins are not that hard to do really, especially after the first one. Usually removing the old skns can be more difficult. If you are not going to have the door painted at the time the skins go on and wilt repaint the whole car once the body work has been done, it might not be too expensive to take your doors and new skins to a body shop and let them do it. If they are the ones that might do the repaint, you should get a pretty good deal. A good body guys should be able to re-skin the door in a morning easy. Doug On 2/25/2013 1:20 AM, D&B Lambert wrote: > After removing the paint from the drivers door on my 71 TR6 restoration > project I find that door has sustained accident damage some time in it's > past and was apparently repaired by the cheapest, fastest method: plenty of > filler. No rust on the door, just lots and lots of bondo - about 3/8 of an > inch in places. Can anyone comment on the difficulty of installing a new > door skin? The door frame seems to be fine. I could try to tap out the > dents and shrink the panel back into shape, but my body working skills are > somewhat mediocre. Any been-there-done-that experience in installing new > door skins that anybody can relate? Door skins are not cheap, but I'm not > wanting to simply re-stuff the door with bondo like some DPO was. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 20:00:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A9F40537 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:00:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1E2403DD for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:00:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id fq13so74358lab.7 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:53:13 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7nLG9iA1YKIjVOFgXJwRUjexErrZhrTBSOsvYNlNXPA=; b=VyZYVEru8dlEPi87LjdZipVcrUZzBR01HecWIKE0sMGz4G2P0jZxFtxwePoA9I5Nju N7XZSRkmG/RTtFIKhAqaC7nA99L3BqRHMh7s3RxQIGyW6fMmek4vphNT1/VllEjOf2eP im9Ihb+aBaXxn3yG5PS+1qL0k1NeQeQJRm8SwogPKrIW+NhKOR6lFrHOmYhyZnA6/AZa D8knYjQtJQ+rsgYYW81l8TKZfFgL+GTjrxACpLPI23o8feFHPMrDFJgFZRnLLYUahHuM 0bR2FeVkJVyXGk5ojJSa6e89FYtF1DRW+kdPsso5+QjfswvrrgiTUPyenxaSudy+xd7O gXmA== y9mr1419932lbg.133.1361933593158; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.69.134 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:53:12 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:53:12 -0500 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat frame common problems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The seats are done. I had to reweld two nuts and weld a frame member. I paid 45 dollars for foam. I cut it with an electric carving knife. They are back together and looking good, not great. Based on input from the list, I left some slack in the foam and in the covering. The sit very good. Lets hope they last a while. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 12:55:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317440560 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:55:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC16440414 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:35:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail66-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.253) by AM1EHSOBE009.bigfish.com (10.3.204.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:30 +0000 Received: from mail66-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail66-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D796E0173 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:30 +0000 (UTC) IPV:NLI; H:BY2PRD0810HT001.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received: from mail66-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail66-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 136199330752762_22258; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.247]) by mail66-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0062820090 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0810HT001.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (157.56.237.101) by AM1EHSMHS017.bigfish.com (10.3.207.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:23 +0000 Received: from BY2PRD0810MB367.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.139]) by BY2PRD0810HT001.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.94.36]) with mapi id 14.16.0263.000; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:22 +0000 From: "Landis,Ronald" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Waking a sleeping car Thread-Index: Ac4VIJblupxCiv/YR0yxTZjYaKnYCg== Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:28:21 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [205.142.59.250] Subject: [TR] Waking a sleeping car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List A short time ago someone posted a link for a check list to wake a sleeping car. I think it came from an MG page, but it had a detailed check list of what to do to prepare a car that has not been run in years to start etc. I printed out and misplaced it. Whoever posted the link I would appreciate you resending to me off list. thanks Ron ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 22:05:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE3040E59 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:05:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CDE40E2B for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:34:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5c1Z1l00A1vN32cA3gSuKe; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:26:54 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5gSu1l00R2yr1eL8igSu2k; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:26:54 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:26:54 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Ronald Landis s=q20121106; t=1362025614; bh=JtgnedTH9MrONpVPFhMiTv+9X2ot6FsRmvURXSGZZnE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=MljYMMwTrbiBTCr6OIlE44K2Q577HIKE6ZJ8oB2Cpk+EUUU8dq6eJqIr0ZEDWiV6X f6VSNCOx4de58sRDXzsGK9UOQUE9xSslgC+ogEaJ5b/tqavS4gXBivwxubyst4CNhm 2FeIQyOKrtEJjj5I/cQHbdkSJpPgHMOsA+aC86ODi+4HURSl6owfjsjo/J3EBwVxY9 u/4ec0+G0GpDfAx4oOXOratQSQJKxWs68m3VlZ0ki+m8Je4oCHCkIndfhefQIO7osV c9ySJ7+0+i/yWyVwEz5stEJztPQbKCnvo21ovQJsVgiWtHttcz9EuEeG/post2qezS Jh5TEzKVimHZA== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Waking a sleeping car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I recently started a car that had been in storage for at least 12 years. Relatively dry storage in my garage/shop in Santa Cruz, Ca. A 1963 Ford Galaxie 390XL that I bought as my first car in 1979. It didn't start immediately, probably a good thing. I had drained the gas when I parked it, or periodically siphoned it for use in the garden tractor, and ran the carb dry. I put some fresh gas in the tank and primed the carb before cranking it over. Cranked it for a bit, but no fire. Fiddled with the points with the key in the on position. No spark at first followed by good spark. I replaced the cap and it fired right up, just like it had the last time I ran it. It's been running great since then. So I'd say put some fresh gas in it disconnect the coil wire, make sure that oil has circulated though the motor, reconnect the coil wire then give it a go. If it doesn't start, check for spark and fuel. Good luck, Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Landis" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:28:21 AM Subject: [TR] Waking a sleeping car List A short time ago someone posted a link for a check list to wake a sleeping car. I think it came from an MG page, but it had a detailed check list of what to do to prepare a car that has not been run in years to start etc. I printed out and misplaced it. Whoever posted the link I would appreciate you resending to me off list. thanks Ron ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 08:23:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFC840E4F for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:23:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18F740E3D for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:01:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so1875078lab.9 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:54:44 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5uRvx+c0YLTK5SbdyEwASo5F12GIiL5sW3RK4aQMyAE=; b=DpwBMDjkuRSc9WCUKEq8LdnwisQlNwA3iwahtxsraFVsueHoQLcnzExvwxL2q/TzCJ aU0sIw12drtlkCUfbnqwFPcoZXEmyohK/N6U8hTrLXnMX5YMHyOuQ7oP16Z9whUf/fjP 5CxXJYuuTJXQ5dexfywaRCRxsfvupeEMZDc0KsryG/DRl+t85ULhU8AqA1xUChF60wUD mMU67QaLdu4zQ2DtdNwlEDiNkmd3x1PQNPhW4m+8wCytU5lGmgZjc3x00j8ZMGVkp1XY Rr2wBwdOzVEbl1/5bRXbRTujlP5Q/MXPoJoGV4cDEiikEl8z/tzXXDDfPW6U+TRm/6aw GQYw== ga18mr5869363lab.33.1362063283991; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.121.38 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) References: <221148838.1548990.1362025614230.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:54:43 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Waking a sleeping car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:26 PM, davehogye wrote: > ...So I'd say put some fresh gas in it disconnect the coil wire, make sure > that oil has circulated though the motor, reconnect the coil wire then give > it a go.... At a minimum I'd take the valve cover off and rotate the engine twice to assure no valves are sticking (old modern fuel sets up like glue). I'd also pour fresh oil over the valves & rockers. Our club does these 'resurrections' from time to time, the record being an MGA that had sat idle for 31 years... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0cLnCdetxg We take a few short cuts (e.g do not bother with coolant, feed gas directly from a can of fresh, etc) but we know the engine is coming out for a rebuild. In any case, have a fire extinguisher handy. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 12:35:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D55840E98 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:35:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A31840421 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:06:17 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=FSJzd7yWzo4A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=KZ9YsBg6OZYL31uhDoAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:43640] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 70/BE-06772-9F8AF215; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:59:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:59:05 +0000 From: Randall To: Triumphs Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Waking a sleeping car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Geo Hahn wrote: > At a minimum I'd take the valve cover off and rotate the engine twice to > assure no valves are sticking (old modern fuel sets up like glue). When I woke my current "barn find" TR3 from its 33 year nap, I also pulled the rocker cover and shot some oil over the rockers but proceeded to try to start the engine. Since this is a non-interference engine, a stuck valve would just result in one cylinder not running, no real damage. And my main interest in leaving off the cover was to make sure the rockers were getting oiled through the shaft. It did, and there were no bad noises, so I buttoned it back up and drove to TRfest 2009 that way. Since then, all it has had is new rod bearings (oil pressure got kind of low) and a new head gasket. A previous TR3 (literally found in a corn field) had apparently had the rear cam bearing installed wrong, so the rockers never got oil through the shaft! I don't think the previous owner drove it much after the so-called "rebuild", but I drove it at least 3000 miles that way. Strangely enough, the wear in the rockers and valve guides was extraordinarily bad ... - Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 16:14:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8BD4055A for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:14:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C6B403F2 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:47:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5yTb1l00A0QkzPwA2yg4ED; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:40:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.81] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5yg11l00T4L5TyG8Nyg3Wl; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 22:40:03 +0000 From: Bud R To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:40:01 -0700 s=q20121106; t=1362091204; bh=l6at0vQo3UTGt9E12tjUxfWCYvJ46jhxidqnLl+S50o=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=TZilV703R3gvL5xQYZgedLLY5C5qYtdVUdiWlSuAvCJgrO1Eknjfmt+TgzakQlVOd Mut2U2TEeb8auy1HjXZRc7j0CwaTmS1WMhX/RL+clHo24YJDNKjNx/IhZZD82qzwYc VZ73iJpk/cTmqdVm9hkXBSqRzoObUeA4D3eoT45IgWvNLESAmTvpr+f8uivmT2/hYZ 8enzbtTTD4KtTqZT5DMmRN3cw2xgEDwjGD1fAV9RxybPND+Q5EQXsiK5FnrireVjPH 4f9M33XOQ1yRT33KQd6HdkfC2WqSkGL3IJAn4eyRl17o1pL2tFEE5xMG7htoJejuzx CKOb6/j7LoncA== Subject: [TR] Carroll Shelby Slotted Alloy Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thought there might be someone in this group interested in these wheels. http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/3648642834.html You get to look here before wading through all the duplicate ads on eBay. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 28 16:43:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0648F40561 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:43:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EC403F2 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:26:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5qZj1l0090QuhwU53zJwD2; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:18:56 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5zJw1l0072ymm843NzJw9H; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:18:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:18:56 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1362093536; bh=Vi+ZuImM7C+Rnbkw24a6FWJzLqY0Qwd/9n9yRbj7M7M=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=LF/1f3ZfhuU6WGxhLmT0ij0LfAfvxrJ63RzpVJktPAqtxQXH/UZ5+uLkqWM93vBlB kOiYatarIGjHZQuVp66KoEWFfxCGDaVK9DM0UTgV6NhRuXWc8gZ4v3mF08SFPD6Ufn MYNPUZHBxgL/aderwtb3p9dOr4an3MAhI/lC2sryfElVUdvAvY9sT4Sk9dxN1ZcsN2 zNfcDNLtaGT/+22UuH+x3wh4XS7NGauw64a5xLfAbNZSGXJ7kCMSZdIxZqP3S1dUqi 3NKerb8+BMr4VmBeCU5k1T/rO/pCMCIzDXW8Tudr6ow0ZOlOqxLR0GE89cnP6WIa5b 1hE7mAygqxcqw== Subject: Re: [TR] Waking a sleeping car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >A short time ago someone posted a link for a check list to wake a sleeping >car. I think it came from an MG page, but it had a detailed check list of >what to do to prepare a car that has not been run in years to start etc. I >printed out and misplaced it. Well, a number of things come to mind. One, of course, is never run the old gas. Even if it starts, it will varnish everything in sight to some degree. While you're at it, stick a magnet in the gas tank to see if it collects a pod of rust. Two, change the oil. After all that time sitting, oil can get pretty moisture-laden and sludgy. You'll want the best lubrication possible on initial fire. Make that ANY fire. It wouldn't hurt to put a little oil in the top of the cylinders to get immediate lubrication on fire. While you're at it, check the spark plugs for rust or old fouling. If anal, pull the head cover and pour oil over the rocker. If you're going to drive the car, change the oil in the transmission and differential also. If you have grease points, chip away the rocks that your old grease became, and re-lube all nipples. Don't forget the drive shaft. Three, check the air cleaners. Clean or replace. Mice have a habit of roosting in them. You can chase your tail wondering why the engine doesn't run right, otherwise. Four, check the throttle linkage to make sure it hasn't stuck itself over time. Don't want to race the engine at 9 grand on fire. Five, do not...do not...do not...trust your brakes. Anything other than silicone brake fluid absorbs moisture and rots brake lines from the inside out. You might not even know you had a brake problem until you're stretching your hand out to shake hands with St. Peter. Six, have a home brew. Have two. Softens the blows that are to come. Your experience may vary...etc...etc...etc. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive