From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 12:42:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C144295F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from grief.its.queensu.ca (grief.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D59240448 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bc600c.its.queensu.ca (bc600c.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.73]) by grief.its.queensu.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r31IbPQR000511 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA (S26.N12.queensu.ca [130.15.12.26]) by bc400c.its.queensu.ca with ESMTP id y1ELETpjMcEdxhUf for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MP-DUP-MBX-02.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([169.254.2.66]) by MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:37:24 -0400 From: Brian Thomas To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: 3 point belts in a TR4A Thread-Index: Ac4vBZXox54oxa6sTFWWUDNL/eseYQ== Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:37:23 +0000 Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [69.7.251.14] TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=BSF_RULE7568M, HTML_MESSAGE Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.50 BSF_RULE7568M Custom Rule 7568M Subject: [TR] 3 point belts in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi guys, When I restored the '67 TR4A in the mid 90's, I wanted to replace the clapped out lap belts with a 3 point setup. At that time not much was available, so I went to a wrecking yard and got a 3 point set out of a Toyota. I even got a good match to my light tan interior. However, these belts do not have inertia reels and consequently wind up closing in door frames, etc. I decided to go with a set of 3 point inertia reel belts offered by TRF for the TR6. Now the belts have arrived, I can't figure out where the inertia reel is supposed to mount. If you have reels with a stock TR6 setup, can you explain where these attach? My TR4A, which is very late (CTC78390L), has factory mounting positions on the floor (2 per side) and the top of the rear wheel wells, so the other attachment points are obvious. Thanks, Brian _______________________________________________________________________ Brian Thomas E-mail: ThomasB@QueensU.Ca Holliday Point Phone: 613-385-1947 Wolfe Island, Ontario Toys: 54 TR2, 56 TR3, 67 TR4A, 01 XKR, 75 John Deere 920 CANADA K0H 2Y0 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 14:15:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5465842991 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.tor.radiant.net (smtp.tor.radiant.net [66.163.0.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667B84284F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.ecomcanada.com ([66.163.0.125]) by smtp2.tor.radiant.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-1 (built Feb 24 2005)) with ESMTP id <0MKL0032BESNRA60@smtp2.tor.radiant.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DSOKNACKIPC1 by ecomcanada.mail (MDaemon PRO v13.0.3) with ESMTP id md50000533392.msg for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:12:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:12:16 -0400 From: David Soknacki To: triumphs@autox.team.net Thread-index: Ac4vFTSJq4OMX/ycT/SSsArIWJMDhQ== (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) Subject: [TR] TR6 lower outer rear valance panel Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fm David Soknacki 74 TR6 CF22072U Hi list! 1. Does anyone know where I can get a TR6 *lower* outer rear valance panel? It's the section from the bumper downwards, as it curves back under the body. 2. In my search for a replacement, the parts suppliers I've checked offer the full outer valance panel. But I was hoping that someone has fabricated just the lower outer panel as a separate part since it is the section usually attacked by rust. 3. By the way, I asked about making the part just by itself, but because of its complex shape, I've been given a quote at about the same cost as a full outer panel. Thanks so much. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 19:16:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F3D40E5F for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7D340523 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130402010740.TBLQ6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 21:07:40 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id Jp7g1l00p1bBNls05p7gsW; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:07:40 -0400 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=f5b0H3g8muEA:10 a=Td8VH_-h37kA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=SlofE_9vz3oA:10 a=eyuWQ4QerAXe8TnqABgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:07:40 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] 3 point belts in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/1/2013 2:37 PM, Brian Thomas wrote: > Hi guys, > > Now the belts have arrived, I can't figure out where the inertia reel is > supposed to mount. There's a mount on the inner fender just above the rear shelf. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 02:11:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE35840E37 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB9840531 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKM000OLBHC8760@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:58:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "Triumph Mail List" References: <006701ce2e42$8aff7600$a0fe6200$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 03:58:24 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQDWgKssarTsARAELD4lyKcuAuflEAIKGRqUmqGZvNA= Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am now thoroughly flummoxed ... found two relatively new lamp holders and re-did all of the wiring - making sure solder and fittings were tight. Same thing happens. When 5 are in the panel or instruments - all is ok. Plug in the sixth and it flickers. Doesn't matter which location. To make sure I had a good ground I added a ground line from the center panel to both the speedo & tach. (the dash is powder coated). So - out they all came again. On the bench, I hooked up jumpers to all - the same thing happens. Also tried it bypassing the fuse holder. Re-checked all of the holders and none have any broken insulation; the bulbs sit squarely on the connections; Really getting frustrating.... I put them back in and will leave one tach lamp out for now. I need to keep up the forward progress. The other issue now is that the starter just whirs. I took it out sometime ago and got the bendix working but now it seems to be stuck again. Any suggestions so that I don't have to pull that *&^%(*)^ out again. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl-TR Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 4:20 PM To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 It seems that if 5 are connected - all is ok. Plug in the sixth - regardless of location - they start flickering. Followed Michael's suggestion... found one that had a cracked separator between +/-. Without that one in the mix - all is ok. Of course, the spare has been re-used many times and the tines on the backside are completely useless. I'll go digging for another but at least I know the problem. Thanks Michael & Bill for the quick response. Carl -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl TR Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:04 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] panel lights on TR3 I am pulling my hair. (not out - I need all I have) Installed the 6 panel lamps on the '3 yesterday. Two circuits - one with 4 holders/bulbs for speedo/tach, the other with two holders/bulbs for center panel Bench tested all six at one time - all ok. Problem - one holder/lamp in the center panel pair - when installed causes everything to flicker. I unplug the offending holder/lamp and no flicker. I connect a ground and it is back. Switched out for an older holder/lamp - same thing. Switched the lamps around - same thing. Same location. Not sure it matters but It is the center panel lamp below the turn signal indicator. Any ideas. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 06:15:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03D240EBE for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:15:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D2440544 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 05:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ADAF11C000096 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:47:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 843E4E000081 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:47:25 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364903245; bh=9aPYOZR2hCcID6cjt49bw7LCnaTjBIw0RlHPrKgWnr0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K3wRAViOr4cfnQDfh/vspCGhJfAzMfN+/ZuQSUSe0CrCSR0fxyqbaxOVo/yXmKhw9 QK2Vb7vNhnVn9mritO1QrxhWt/epYdW9RZ20Km+hg0f/curk7lKFS1geaq0FjCmRHM 9Q2zeDqUWjjS69Dr4gP6/Y9qiJh7lLUCLwRPd2vk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389515ac54d1e3c Subject: Re: [TR] 3 point belts in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought the inertia reel belts from Moss and mounted them using the stock TR6 mounts. The inertia reel mounts on the wheel well just above the parcel shelf and there is a belt guide that mounts higher up directly above the reel. The feeds the belt over the shoulder. The other end of the loop bolts to a weld nut just below and behind the lower rear corner of the door opening. The other part of the belt set bolts to a weld nut in the driveshaft tunnel. I do believe the TR4 has different seatbelt provisions but I am not familiar with the TR4A but if you don't have the weld nuts you can drill holes and use nuts and oversized washers to prevent pull-through which is what I did for the guide loop on my TR6 since the 71 didn't come equipped with inertia reel belts, just the fixed length three point harness. If you can, study the mountings on a TR6 and try to approximate as closely as you can. I'm sure the factory spent quite a bit of time optimizing the seatbelt mountings so it would be wise to ride their coattails. Cheers Dave In a message dated 4/1/2013 1:39:06 PM Central Daylight Time, thomasb@queensu.ca writes: > Hi guys, > > When I restored the '67 TR4A in the mid 90's, I wanted to replace the > clapped > out lap belts with a 3 point setup. At that time not much was available, > so I > went to a wrecking yard and got a 3 point set out of a Toyota. I even got > a > good match to my light tan interior. However, these belts do not have > inertia > reels and consequently wind up closing in door frames, etc. > > I decided to go with a set of 3 point inertia reel belts offered by TRF > for > the TR6. > > Now the belts have arrived, I can't figure out where the inertia reel is > supposed to mount. If you have reels with a stock TR6 setup, can you > explain > where these attach? My TR4A, which is very late (CTC78390L), has factory > mounting positions on the floor (2 per side) and the top of the rear wheel > wells, so the other attachment points are obvious. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 06:32:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7336A4254E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140B2403C8 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 06:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9DF721C000164 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 756D2E000086 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 08:12:39 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364904759; bh=R/1DsHziUN1iF8sC+4qXdC7stlO5Z/B1uRgOzxET2lE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DgtkIbehTizFMuzNBzX9MPIgvYywo3YE99VTHfdjFcYYgJ1/iJ9q9qINhQaQKiZK5 fp1EKZlMBzfaYtN7uZV8yRmZEyu5pndtgeM83ZQtS4qvvh5dtpCnmSO2NtiKsSowaL WkT12dN7IIvSqso+mEHGSRWA4fQ/BphvEqquxcRw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b515acb37086c Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Boy, all the descriptions sound like there is a current limiting device in there (other than the fuse) but that is just crazy talk. But it sounds like something is overheating with sufficient current but if the current is reduced below the threshold all is well. Do they ALL flash in unison or just one or a few? Your starter problem may be one of the two following things. The TR3 Starters The bendix extends by riding out on some reverse acme threads. It counts on inertia to spin more slowly than the motor to do so. If there is insufficient lubrication (grease) the friction will be greater than the force resulting from the inertia and the bendix will not deploy properly. I had this issue on a 65 MGB and applying grease made it work like new again. The other problem is that your (and my) starter has a rubber coupler in the bendix. If the bond between the rubber and metal parts fails the motor will spin and the rubber/metal interface will slip and the engine will not turn. I have a starter on the shelf in the garage with this special feature. You may need a bendix. Does it spin as if totally unloaded for does it turn as loaded but still will not turn over the engine? Dave In a message dated 4/2/2013 3:08:20 AM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > I am now thoroughly flummoxed ... found two relatively new lamp holders > and > re-did all of the wiring - making sure solder and fittings were tight. > Same > thing happens. When 5 are in the panel or instruments - all is ok. Plug > in > the sixth and it flickers. Doesn't matter which location. To make sure > I > had a good ground I added a ground line from the center panel to both the > speedo &tach. (the dash is powder coated). So - out they all came > again. > On the bench, I hooked up jumpers to all - the same thing happens. Also > tried it bypassing the fuse holder. Re-checked all of the holders and > none > have any broken insulation; the bulbs sit squarely on the connections; > Really getting frustrating.... I put them back in and will leave one > tach > lamp out for now. I need to keep up the forward progress. > > The other issue now is that the starter just whirs. I took it out > sometime > ago and got the bendix working but now it seems to be stuck again. Any > suggestions so that I don't have to pull that *&^%(*)^ out again. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 12:49:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918FF40E46 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760140E60 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=HokRlUTIlMoA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=ZYMJorrTBZL_3k9YiUEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=UDgt33SSotRKcxEV:21 a=yOWfLaCnmKUjCjXZ:21 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:37598] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 14/66-06772-B822B515; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 18:25:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 18:25:15 +0000 From: Randall To: Triumph Mail List , cfmtr3a@verizon.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Carl TR wrote: > I am now thoroughly flummoxed ... found two relatively new lamp holders and > re-did all of the wiring - making sure solder and fittings were tight. Same > thing happens. When 5 are in the panel or instruments - all is ok. Plug in > the sixth and it flickers. Can you describe the "flicker" a bit more? It almost sounds like you have a mis-wire somewhere that is powering the dash lights through the turn signal flasher or something. > o make sure I > had a good ground I added a ground line from the center panel to both the > speedo & tach. FWIW, I believe there is supposed to be a ground wire there. Single black wire from the clamp on the instrument panel, to ring terminals on the mounting posts for both tach and speedo. > Re-checked all of the holders and none > have any broken insulation; the bulbs sit squarely on the connections; The "arm" that supports the bulb bends slightly when the holder is inserted into the hole. I've had problems several times with it deflecting enough so that the bulb no longer securely contacts the base contact when the holder is inserted in the hole. But that would affect only one lamp, so not likely to be your problem. > The other issue now is that the starter just whirs. I took it out sometime > ago and got the bendix working but now it seems to be stuck again. Any > suggestions so that I don't have to pull that *&^%(*)^ out again. Sometimes the starter doesn't get enough current to move the Bendix. A low battery (run down perhaps from all the light testing?), poor connection (don't forget the ground strap at the LH motor mount) or bad solenoid. I finally got disgusted with all the starter problems I was having, and upgraded to a gear-drive starter in 2001. (Got mine from TRF but lots of sources offer essentially the same unit.) Still works great. > 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO With that commission number, your starter should not have the bonded rubber drive that Dave M. mentioned. If you have an early starter installed, that might be the problem. The early starter used a smaller pinion gear that will just barely engage with the later (smaller) ring gear. After just a little bit of wear, it slips. One of the things I did to make the starter easier to change was install a Heli-coil in the transmission flange for the upper starter bolt. Not having to mess with that nut makes the job a whole lot easier! I just ran the tap in through the engine flange (where it cut threads that won't hurt anything) and then turned the insert in until it was entirely in the gearbox flange. I'm not sure it would work every time (I run a TR6 gearbox with a thicker flange) but it sure worked a treat for me. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 06:36:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C3B40ED5 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C086540333 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:13:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EA00738000061 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C2B24E000086 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:10:12 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364991012; bh=thIxoL4sw9Cvj2Rp8udnHo0+3FKNOyRjKVw/MKNK6Rw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ep/Y7Pvc7Cey3kAqHC7vl4EKHYy7OawXjE12V9LUFaAh3B+YlFKC3gUf37HP/8uui uzyGRRcVSo0noWfor+1rolRvKssym7RUO+y5DIZkUWL4ovQxt6lD/M53oUXqpQj/Ad N08SvXnB5PaCrZj4kGgrphrSI/8Z97wt+fDf84qA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b515c1c247f83 Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 4/2/2013 10:46:27 PM Central Daylight Time, cfmtr3a@verizon.net writes: > >>1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO > > > Randall=With that commission number, your starter should not have the > bonded rubber drive that Dave M. mentioned. If you have an early starter > installed, that might be the problem. The early starter used a smaller pinion > gear that will just barely engage with the later (smaller) ring gear. > After just a little bit of wear, it slips. > > Dave= The other problem is that your (and my) starter has a rubber coupler > in the bendix. > > > > I do not recall a rubber coupler. Without taking it out, is there a way > to tell if I have an early or later starter? Lucas Part number on the box > was 25550 (it was new in box b date stamped July 1968). My bad. I blinked twice this mooning and realized I misread your commission number. I saw the TS and then I saw the 18 and made the connection that your number was close to mine (TS18xxx) so you probably had the same style starter. Please disregard. Although readers with early models may take this to heart. > > > > > Randall=One of the things I did to make the starter easier to change was > install a Heli-coil in the transmission flange for the upper starter bolt. > Not having to mess with that nut makes the job a whole lot easier! I just > ran the tap in through the engine flange (where it cut threads that won't > hurt anything) and then turned the insert in until it was entirely in the > gearbox flange. I'm not sure it would work every time (I run a TR6 gearbox > with a thicker flange) but it sure worked a treat for me. > > Something to think about but maybe not now. > > > > Dave= Your starter problem may be one of the two following things. The > TR3 Starters The bendix extends by riding out on some reverse acme threads. > It counts on inertia to spin more slowly than the motor to do so. If there > is insufficient lubrication (grease) the friction will be greater than the > force resulting from the inertia and the bendix will not deploy properly. > I had this issue on a 65 MGB and applying grease made it work like new > again. > > > > Is it possible to apply grease without taking it out b or should I just > plan on taking on this task this Saturday. It might be obvious if I was > looking at the starter b but where? > > > > Dave= Does it spin as if totally unloaded for does it turn as loaded but > still will not turn over the engine? > > > > It just spins b appears to be no contact with the ring gear. Then I would hope it is a reluctant bendix. I don't see how you can apply grease to it without removing it. That's what I did on my MG many years ago. It might be a bad spot on the ring gear. Try pushing the car in gear to turn the engine a bit and see if that changes anything. Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 12:44:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7542E2C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3D7400AD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:22:41 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=HokRlUTIlMoA:10 a=mBmpUV3DAAAA:20 a=bvQGMMoFGqSxPrQLtkYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=5tiCUA4wI7oA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:50316] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 39/9E-04559-8C27C515; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:19:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:19:52 +0000 From: Randall To: Triumph Mail List , cfmtr3a@verizon.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] panel lights on TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > First - the problem occurs when the holders/bulbs are completely out of the > car connected to a 12v power source My next step would be to start probing while the "flicker" is happening on the bench. Does the current go up or down when the lights go out? If it goes down, there has to be an intermittent connection somewhere, like perhaps the power lead is broken internally. If it goes up, there must be a short in one of the holders. > I do not recall a rubber coupler. Without taking it out, is there a way to > tell if I have an early or later starter? Lucas Part number on the box was > 25550 (it was new in box - date stamped July 1968). 25550 is the later style starter. Has an exposed shaft some 6" long with a big coil spring at the end. That coil spring provides the cushion effect, in place of the bonded rubber drive used in the earlier starters. The earlier starters also have a cast iron shroud over the pinion gear. In this link, the upper LH starter image is the later type, the upper RH is the earlier type. http://goo.gl/OAVnc (the photos aren't scaled quite the same, the motor section is about the same diameter for both of them) > Is it possible to apply grease without taking it out - or should I just plan > on taking on this task this Saturday. Sounds like you'll be busy on Saturday. > It might be obvious if I was looking > at the starter - but where? Turn the pinion gear with your fingers. One direction it should force the shaft to turn, but the other direction should move the Bendix first. When the Bendix moves, the gear moves closer to the motor (assuming you have the later type starter). If it is at all sticky or the shaft turns easier than the Bendix, then you've got a problem. You can also test it on the bench using a battery and jumper cables to power it, but be certain the starter is securely anchored. It's probably best to use the starter cable from the car to make connection to the post, as otherwise the high current may damage the post. The Bendix should extend the instant you apply power to the starter (while it is trying to jump off the bench and land on your foot). It's also possible the drive has come apart completely, but hopefully that is unlikely. Happened to me during a 2000 mile drive many years ago, and by the time I got home the big spring had exited through the side of the bellhousing, causing a crack that ruined the entire gearbox housing. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 14:46:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC7142E4E for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f170.google.com (mail-gh0-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCA142BE0 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:13:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gh0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z2so312584ghb.1 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=xnxSSjue5CavzwLPvyo15gCb2WhyJBxSugVKz3/0YSY=; b=wkM+13bHdz/Z9L+ZsIHDO8pI4y/NcR9wRc2V85AAduyQlrBJ1UU1VegQoqBFduuiyL BHYinO57+d6Av8+9PYRD+S1EqxBaP54AO45XSxwFSlcBf7TbqLTFon9GvvswuQas/T7R qKXv+qDxF3IO4JJwi71Vx2GxVbmJT0AQmX8ES/QCzoFWgI9xRq9az/r1h6ent6sUyy67 u84vsMhyj5+Nhs94zXd81Nja52mBX3kKEzf8/iL0oa5FSYyAWCHywzqjPX8QW+lOUhc7 U2lJwjA8wPheKhQSAxj0emGpU+43C7Z2KXk1I9UmkbpKlmG7KFdh/e6aRmhC0SyDGtL3 7wag== g70mr1948420yhe.84.1365019814656; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (c-68-53-186-5.hsd1.in.comcast.net. [68.53.186.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v48sm11378247yhi.26.2013.04.03.13.10.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Will Daehler" To: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:09:59 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4wpzfjK0F6KZnqTFi/3pbq20JR+g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR4 Finally tooting my own HORN, Triumph days of MUTE are over. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Last fall I started trouble shooting my TR4 horn circuit to see why I wasn't getting anything more that brief inaudible chip. At that time I did post a request for help, and did get four excellent responses from this list. I investigated and tried all the suggestions, still to no avail. The more I measured voltage drops, resistances and currents, the more it seemed that the OEM circuit design itself was flawed. Just feeble. Pardon my criticism, Sir John Black. A relay was needed! So I lashed up some jumpers and was able to put in a trial relay without cutting any wires in the existing harness. On this first attempt, the horn personality changed. Now instead of one tiny peep, I got a whole series of rapid fire little peeps. Yes, the coil in the relay was chattering. I was close, but gave it some more thought for another month. I sketched up a better way to connect the relay so that there was more complete separation of the coil signal circuit and the contact power circuit. Then I worked on reducing it into the easiest possible implementation, meaning cutting no existing wires, just adding jumpers with the correct crimped connectors. It worked ! Absolutely amazingly loud ....HOOOOOOOT ! A picture right now would help, but here comes a thousand words instead. The OEM circuit has a P (purple wire) and a PB (purple wire with a black strip). At the site of the driver's side horn, I mounted the relay underneath the little sheet metal stand that the horn is mounted to. So its hidden from view. To the extra tab connector on the P side of the horn, I ran a jumper wire to one side of the relay coil. From the other side of the relay coil, I ran a wire through the firewall and underneath the dash. There I found the little three way connection point where the three PB wires meet. I unplugged the one going to the steering column, and connected it to this new wire coming feeding from the relay coil. So here we now had a signal path that when the horn pushbutton in the steering wheel was pushed, this completed the P circuit to ground. The load on the P circuit was the coil. (No blue Lucas smoke). That left how to hook up the power circuit, which was connecting the PB tab on the driver's side horn to the first side of the relay contact, and then another jumper from the other side of the relay contact to ground. When the coil is energized by the signal circuit, the contact closes, and the electricity rushes unimpeded through the horns across the contacts and straight to ground. Elegant. Faithfully submitted, Will Daehler ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 16:00:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BEB42F4D for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:00:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758D442F0D for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:34:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA567A07E8 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 15:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:33:23 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So the annual fund drive is coming up, where I beg for folks to support Team.Net with monetary contributions [ http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often ;-) ] But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of value. What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to pontificate. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 18:19:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A927B430DD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:19:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from sysfx.com (sysfx.com [204.107.12.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90A042F13 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:55:46 -0600 (MDT) s=MDaemon; t=1365033176; x=1365637976; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: Organization:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Reply-To; bh=/slzJ5c+stFqhAz2pEc2/sISdlAZ9T17Pvz8LTOoF34=; b=Qly X+nC8HPCbo3CdFI7MFIps1UY38GWyIKow3ebPnfMJMe7k+IxnMYV5C2YW0ufCA5Z IOhNiAUUJnySKPp6zyg8jeZOcq5cEBt2jER6bV20FGyNfTJAhu19v7YFr5qg+IKG 8VoeaX3SIiv4KDztFDlx118tHWJX/QGcw9gkW6So= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=indiefilmnet.com; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=awRvyyFDA8tg9ZEcurAvcMaWu4vAaw8PDUA405G86pMmnIWCQiqtHNAc8f/6 3VRCN86EiOxFcZQBYfKDMmjviLqewKxy9R6PrlM77vVJQVsJUXTMwQDZn nSmcVtaUjixzwR+53TluxztctUWsJCi9Ik3snOzQOmOMxxLYI/GvX8=; Received: from MARK-i7.IFN-MTL.COM by sysfx.com (Cipher TLSv1:-SHA:128) (MDaemon PRO v13.0.4) with ESMTP id 03-md50000131729.msg for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:52:56 -0400 processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:54:00 -0400 From: Mark Hooper To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Organization: IndieFIlmNet Subject: [TR] Goodparts adjustable brackets - question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've been considering the adjustable trailing arm brackets sold by Goodparts for my 72 TR6. They should allow me to get things lined up without crazy shimming. During the frame repairs I did about 20 years ago I replaced the rear and bottom sides of the trailing arm frame sections with lengths of 3" angle iron. (I seem to recall shouting at the sky "Rust that you son of a b...!") Anyway, the right side camber is a bit off on one side and the tire seems to be farther out than on the left. I'd thought I might have the body on the frame a bit off, but things seem OK. Thus, the adjustable brackets look like a good idea. Can anybody opine on their experiences with this mod? Do they stay in position? Solidly made etc? Mark Hooper 1972 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 20:05:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2995443238 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 20:05:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C430E431BD for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2C20F1C0000BC; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (209.sub-70-197-164.myvzw.com [70.197.164.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 76D1CE0000D8; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:40:38 -0400 (EDT) References: <9f95479d.1ce30c6.4443fe90.ce@indiefilmnet.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 21:40:38 -0400 To: "mhooper@indiefilmnet.com" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365039639; bh=ElhlUo50pj7gyuonWFKif+8z+OUut3PGV5IOnByizGU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=HGkJRW79UaWMSa0DXf33J4skN6mnhHi1KZks6wOH/s8GjFDlIEDQeLpnTb+TpA0Cm YMBBiqPOdOIJIbwsp3wrTXXr7JT8ca8v8CLwTysN+FTLu2SqpJHC0kafq6Lf3XDM0a b0X31i7BaXzEBI+Qyc4led8o+gnXWfdn0zqFPW/o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2944515cda161791 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Goodparts adjustable brackets - question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net They are a great product - well made, absolutely will hold their position - but they are not a substitute for shims behind the brackets for toe adjustment - if you needed those before, you will still need them - the adjustable brackets allow for precise camber adjustment Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Mark Hooper wrote: > I've been considering the adjustable trailing arm brackets sold by Goodparts > for my 72 TR6. They should allow me to get things lined up without crazy > shimming. During the frame repairs I did about 20 years ago I replaced the > rear and bottom sides of the trailing arm frame sections with lengths of 3" > angle iron. (I seem to recall shouting at the sky "Rust that you son of a > b...!") Anyway, the right side camber is a bit off on one side and the tire > seems to be farther out than on the left. I'd thought I might have the body on > the frame a bit off, but things seem OK. Thus, the adjustable brackets look > like a good idea. > > Can anybody opine on their experiences with this mod? Do they stay in > position? Solidly made etc? > > Mark Hooper > > 1972 TR6 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 06:32:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70BE42A6E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:32:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62694256A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 95E871C000052 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 19D7AE000088 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:02:55 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365076976; bh=Ag9048gtYOoHcXjaCgxrplIAeiqss8Wd+7oxQ606ZN0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n5/Gl76EjftLSOXt+59ThImUGsvKlH54YOnmzM34WvdaZMD7ZvWKPEbvHL3XRDDij o4kXyhY3uMDYWqfWOllPG7RyWEVtZqcArosFKWZSqZFvHbgIufa7pZrRfTYE1/jGFf HzYWf+ybz3Rhr7mDqSrozhiWLAQ5xPUo3YmvsSLc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948515d6bf077a2 Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't change nothing." Dave In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of > value. > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to > see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > pontificate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 06:50:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD46642ABE for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from grief.its.queensu.ca (grief.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BF5424B8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 06:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bc600a.its.queensu.ca (bc600a.its.queensu.ca [130.15.126.70]) by grief.its.queensu.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r34CRiJW026406 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA (S26.N12.queensu.ca [130.15.12.26]) by bc600a.its.queensu.ca with ESMTP id lDMHLY5GnHf4M7K2 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MP-DUP-MBX-02.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([169.254.2.66]) by MP-DUP-HTS-01.AD.QUEENSU.CA ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:27:40 -0400 From: Brian Thomas To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [TR] 3 point belts in a TR4A Thread-Index: Ac4vBZXox54oxa6sTFWWUDNL/eseYQAZFk2AAHFJjuA= Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:27:39 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [69.7.251.14] TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=BSF_RULE7568M Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.50 BSF_RULE7568M Custom Rule 7568M Subject: Re: [TR] 3 point belts in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded to my query regarding where the inertia reel mounts. ... and special thanks to Dave who provided a couple of pictures. Cheers, Brian _______________________________________________________________________ Brian Thomas E-mail: ThomasB@QueensU.Ca Holliday Point Phone: 613-385-1947 Wolfe Island, Ontario Toys: 54 TR2, 56 TR3, 67 TR4A, 01 XKR, 75 John Deere 920 CANADA K0H 2Y0 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 08:05:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3A43953 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C11442AF4 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 07:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with ESMTP id PRK07937; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:32:37 -0500 From: "Michael Marr" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <515CA023.7020300@bradakis.com> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:32:27 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4wtjwN/txGibHsTlW4sCr5Ii7+OwAglzxw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would like to see more puppies and kittens. Mike > > So the annual fund drive is coming up, where I beg for folks to support > Team.Net with monetary contributions [ http://www.team.net/donate.html > - donate early, donate often ;-) ] > > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of > value. > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like > to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > pontificate. > > mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 08:40:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3853843A07 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B6F4009B for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2013 14:09:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.130] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2013 14:09:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2013 14:09:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365084568; bh=94QQIABoijl66xrl3Pb1ASIBwgdALG/20C+wVG88gSw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=2/oeEgxTXMbMlLJxpdAuGwLQ/8+FDWHEPppWJHrEcsOkqdviVH//MwTBKRzhYE2MZXTk0M5htDkxr7F39D0e6qZHoLXlL5u8BuodT0JmLB1XMVG2m8uskAcPg5+HmytLVK4S9Isw2qrKrQKouX42DkUuU3HlUeC5Rf/zsycUSfY= QD0SnwFAwX3IW5GrCUhoBDdPwb4HOwLtYkHqcZjOD4gCJ9TYtXGHfNy4r9qD v.GX4P60lBQUYQ1MpQH9ewNSp75S3XixGyv7rVuMjdsvWfsIhKHnNa.UxH.I IAgqPcsa4qYmeb5YrOBNLFN7x3_l2ed2ntmgk1ArJJVDFe3wdEAwSkkIgERY jw_cKshDsBgz6eSCy80UKgCdKSBmABK01Fa6p7FHjwiKa3iYgoQuhDk6kEVG fN71p1A0WQ1yHZlJy76nDuX9ENN2KLZVeKtUEWRAd6tyTZ_g_HC6EZM.ZECF uucU7vR_XHv5s1LGgx7tTJxcSzv4OknPcAuDp0dhjLPZR0_7GHSN_r7KH3Zv ZwR6epKl7xzW24tnEaDtCeXBwM9Q.HGu6.7atZ8LChHprgqH50rVjY5mhlFL 4BZ_A7ykfjr6f4EYGeF27LY._QJf2qcIcjGW79whTGso9M9bMihNl5Bn8RFD yMCXOU7npT2xNfclC plain) by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Apr 2013 14:09:28 +0000 UTC References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> From: WBEECH Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:09:28 -0500 To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The list's email format is perfect for me. My only problem is searching the archives, headers and emails don't alway match up. Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Dave1massey@cs.com wrote: I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't change nothing." Dave In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of > value. > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to > see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > pontificate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 08:41:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A31B43A2D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C1C4255C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id KqGz1l00453lu5001qH01e; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:17:00 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:15:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net if it ain't broke . . . . -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:02 AM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't change nothing." Dave In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of > value. > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to > see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > pontificate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 12:07:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1831D40ED6 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 12:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1A439F8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:49:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KpDL1l0040b6N64ACtmppK; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:46:49 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ktmp1l00h2yr1eL8Ptmpva; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:46:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:46:49 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Triumphs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1365097609; bh=Rw4C8WRTqEsY7jqXju1fsP6q5BYzFs8vmknv7aZoI1g=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=SXxSBwpz00d3BEg8IH/mHPASdCSqXtAQHCOGp4hVTJ1yCtyUTRJNgUZUg/lS10CAD AqRPT0wKeMWPyqbIjgfhn2tzTK+V360H390d91Wo3Ty4R4jVNVv6qyVsfmzEdnkTzU MW2YWlLQvwrv/d1JuC0vA2uKCVJROvDBnrEPvddG3NJVICYdczS860gRaHaXt3dk/B CQSQTj4Gq+h0ZcSKZ4oP4yKU1CPpsqKC/eN/hHDaFHuLpyTD3J9J71jmpfFJu1nu5/ 92jzx5tvEd5vafHItgoDddA5a+R7xM+0wbK85D0dBu3SZHJyQX/tOf4URnIsfKBIn2 AMgFoAIywYmIQ== Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If it is not broken, do not repair it. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > To: Triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:02:55 AM > Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? > I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't > change > nothing." > > Dave > > In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something > > of > > value. > > > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you > > like to > > see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > > pontificate. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 14:43:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0620643004 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76CA42AD8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 14:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id c11so3094642wgh.8 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:16:57 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Js4GCjjaQyk6KX4/OvDsaniE7bcfRVrR3GUAm5pr4zQ=; b=zLhdDv/M83InMN81HfKN1ggwmPDJOqbbffvNVHRc3woMoJZMrCvg3Eyh286fN/XOys hUc/B48W0rYyDM9HnaP1Z0QBrvmpGGq+xNk/+er9CNR0BmLyxQmj0kKmWhOs9K60ZZ0g 7gJo2Fzo6VBTUED5UeuRnmgdEG1uVMNTCZw7bCmC6y4Gv5GLnP9R9rU/ozhjFH0MqBb2 t7U/ChXqF5FeFlTX0u9VkhBVXzyYmFE6mu+Y/PhhFDqkiQWC8R0nNdsm6WXum/6eHmAq j2ZCEbmX1imtX5E/+3Nbm6Lv7fqSpKdpZtw5LBNuKJalz/jmOa1Cf7sA+Eb9lBoCZOp8 hZ8A== t10mr12026168wjq.4.1365106616909; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.15.73 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:16:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: Don Hiscock Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:16:36 -0400 To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "If it ain't broke..." So all you guys with gear reduction starters, with aluminum radiators, with thermostatically-controlled electric fans, with five-speed gearbox upgrades, with rear main seal replacements, with radial tires. You all replaced those because the originals were broken? None of those were upgrades because better technology was available? I doubt it. The list is useful. But it's antiquated and almost non-functional in a graphics- and photo-oriented world. I appreciate the dialog and the information -- best in the TR world. But the interface is antediluvian. A modern forum would be much better. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM, wrote: > If it is not broken, do not repair it. > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > > To: Triumphs@autox.team.net > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:02:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? > > I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't > > change > > nothing." > > > > Dave > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something > > > of > > > value. > > > > > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you > > > like to > > > see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to > > > pontificate. > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 16:13:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFC2434A8 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D2543112 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130404215333.XVAM24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:53:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id KxtZ1l00T1bBNls05xtZTj; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:53:33 -0400 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=QTFOEh9fAJMA:10 a=Dvz7_ezy4v8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nIMSLE6L0fQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XxN4H96YM0HSzOMjZRUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=I1_pxw1SyxcA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:53:35 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/4/2013 4:16 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The list is useful. But it's antiquated and almost non-functional in a > graphics- and photo-oriented world. I appreciate the dialog and the > information -- best in the TR world. But the interface is antediluvian. A > modern forum would be much better. Yeah. Somebody should do something like this: http://www.team.net/forums/ That'd be better. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 16:43:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C587A42EC0 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AE542FC6 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KntF1l0010vyq2s59yN44v; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:22:04 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KyN41l00U2ymm843RyN4Uu; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:22:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:22:04 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Mark J Bradakis (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1365114124; bh=ckle4xxDnKGX0mlBYtxo/i+8pXRR/iaCZ4c1ah94I+Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rtGiHjrKqP+if9EB/j5tEm6LXdN6FSLsesmec9+SWM4oKPl+MZqD7Su1GUtWcaZKu mHnbSh47rtEcuvsC1m22Sl+3c/O1qKCZFQ9NyRR3dneYYee2NT46Mndq0ue1f79jTQ GTdcZP34DGGQ0hUkCDr0eSqQIvuZ9yXhO4orHeAJZ5pFOixN8CkKRiuPMFPAJpocu6 d/KE01rcFfY4mF9+sxy7PZU+fuRJtS+2uvoPxWpkCiyFf8d2R8ymoCbabfNbIEt1vZ iKfApQzMVTJtz98IPR8dckzXzUYhhVODqUY1O9JUQU3hByNr9u0elkd9IKdt3Z6sAD ZQL31Tr7QWkKQ== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to >see changed, added, reworked? I'm thinking a recorded log-in with a sultry female voice that pouts out, "Good afternoon, Terry. You are a fine specimen of a man. Every blind woman in the Western World wants you." Terry Smith, '59 TR3A 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 18:31:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C6E44269 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D730843A43 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:02:36 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=o-kwPdBbNX0A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=_N74xHNwb6wA:10 a=-WAJzA6hjnYkh0MtO3oA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nMsdhSRCwBpVdTgNnDUA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=m6k6p1-45OmDE6sg:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50110] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id F7/3D-11341-BE31E515; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:59:39 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:02:16 -0400 Subject: [TR] Thoughts on steel vs copper gas lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I can't believe I am getting close to completion on my TR4A finally after 12 years but here I am! One of the things I need to do is run a gas line from the fuel pump to the carbs and the short piece from the fuel pump to the line going back to the tank (about a foot I guess). I am thinking I should use a steel line as it will be less likely to crack. On the other hand, I can remember on the old cars (1920's) that my dad and I restored back in the day (1960's) all the gas lines were copper. I know, they didn't have seat belts either but that's another story. Anyway, steel or copper? I know it will be harder to bend but I think it will be safer. Also, what dia. should I use for the steel vacuum line from the carb to the distributor? I am also considering installing a shut off valve between the pipe from the tank and the fuel pump, (maybe right on the pump) for the long winter nap so gas doesn't leak anywhere. Hoping to receive my wire harness soon, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 18:48:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46343443F2 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588940E1D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id L0JL1l00b53lu50010JMcD; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:18:22 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:18:19 -0500 Subject: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net hi. I just brought home a tr3b. guy really didnbt know what he had. no rust (really!), decent interior, trunk fine, hasnbt run since? but b bwas running when parkedb donbt you just love it? supposedly still positive ground, no side curtains, lousy paint. 2 questions - they claim itbs a 59? is that possible? TCF 1402 L and there is nothing behind the little dzus covers on the spare tire cover. how do I get it open? thanks! ps b will post pictures later tonight. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 18:48:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09B04450F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FC442BE7 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F1FB01C0000A6 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-med001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CB112E000081 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Full-name: Loumetelko Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:21:11 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365121271; bh=nwW5ztryi/lS0rgvP1CcLJuAXhszVTxRKVGRoqnTMGk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LNWAfOFpITZUjmASfogAnNR2dHceTG8Dt4SIf5ZNGv2CzMH9pgulwyHHJjKNdSy8Q B9zIqo1ApSbeOZwmaO2nqYeCmd06S+3WyCzw35B8q3S4lkWixH2UHJhUgUwbF9FYZn v58F9yNib2cqE4Q2xE9lOE6ZgsorEgCcG1UKn7c0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c515e18f7398c Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net But the interface is antediluvian. A modern forum would be much better. I will be glad when the pseudo intellectuals leave so that we unwashed can continue enjoying Mark's labors just as they are. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 19:33:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D91744586 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558FA443F7 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170019pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MKR002N3CFA26P3@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:06:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.241.109 ([96.255.241.109]) by vms170019 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:06:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:06:46 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Being able to not have to remember to change to plain text would be a plus, and uploading of pictures would be a double win. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 Vienna, VA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 19:34:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE441445A0 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:34:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com (mail-ve0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499A9431E0 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:18:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id m1so3222689ves.27 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DuvudrwmDrJ1BG/79mSEgd8D41PDPOUaujGh9m1KSYQ=; b=V5YW74HFyn5HAMGd/PWAw0rlc52n2lZpSwr6V5XwTDem6t0usKK5YXpqN0DRdnCx/S 2i2upTp7xX/JWipInhb41B4nq6G8iccml4BO0pvSM6Yyfw2tAAg7lC4IcTSRQmn0KAzj Imx//PhViXsFeQHGwERebGJGaAorUs95KJOM7FLIYzU1n+XPr7N9yRx/Bb++8T7fw2lb YAkBWzGiOQc/E81dQd6kY2Rmz/Z7oLpFFbPBBNt9trqq2VDHi7AjqRBhQFoEbz6gqZwn MfuwmTC2fV8TK3oV3gTRxV/6fv37lHOORJfcaA5Jh2vdSpWknL7JOpR1FLT261KE5+DC +FRg== z7mr5667238vdh.56.1365124534326; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.31.234 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:15:34 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave - I don't think it can be a 59. You can't really see much when you lift the toilet seat cover on the spare tire lid -- try just sticking the Dzus tool deep in there and see if it engages something. Congrats on your find. Geo On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Dave wrote: > hi. I just brought home a tr3b. guy really didnb t know what he had. no > rust (really!), decent interior, trunk fine, hasnb t run since? but b > b was running when parkedb donb t you just love it? > > supposedly still positive ground, no side curtains, lousy paint. > > 2 questions - > > they claim itb s a 59? is that possible? TCF 1402 L > > and there is nothing behind the little dzus covers on the spare tire cover. > how do I get it open? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 19:51:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E5C445C4 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:51:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F51944532 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:29:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKR008LYDCA41M3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:26:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "ptegler" To: "Dave Connitt" , References: <4BE2C73AA93148628A8C53337BEB3181@DaveLaptop> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:27:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Thoughts on steel vs copper gas lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'd stick with steel under a car these days. Copper dents way to easy. Hit a couple stones/road slag dent the pipe and it reduces fuel flow. I personally used coated brake lines as fuel lines. I just cut the ends off where I'm using a flex hose, and or screw connections to join stock ends when longer runs are needed. Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Connitt" To: Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:02 PM Subject: [TR] Thoughts on steel vs copper gas lines > List, > I can't believe I am getting close to completion on my TR4A finally after > 12 > years but here I am! > One of the things I need to do is run a gas line from the fuel pump to the > carbs and the short piece from the fuel pump to the line going back to the > tank (about a foot I guess). I am thinking I should use a steel line as it > will be less likely to crack. On the other hand, I can remember on the old > cars (1920's) that my dad and I restored back in the day (1960's) all the > gas > lines were copper. I know, they didn't have seat belts either but that's > another story. > Anyway, steel or copper? I know it will be harder to bend but I think it > will > be safer. Also, what dia. should I use for the steel vacuum line from the > carb > to the distributor? > I am also considering installing a shut off valve between the pipe from > the > tank and the fuel pump, (maybe right on the pump) for the long winter nap > so > gas doesn't leak anywhere. > Hoping to receive my wire harness soon, > Dave Connitt > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 19:51:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87724461E for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:51:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6D044532 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Kpp21l00B0xGWP8551Tcvm; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:27:36 +0000 Received: from [10.242.150.78] ([174.229.192.113]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L1TQ1l0022TFVlJ3Y1TTkw; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:27:34 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?RGF2ZSBDb25uaXR0?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:27:32 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1365125256; bh=q/Kwywyl9NjoGWph42Kt4NFD3a+t5MSv54MXRIa2+O8=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pn9FgUqi3fiHwzWN3sOxlsud7+LT5XRHqe8LOkMYkhUgOWYkDkRrgUHDHM9E6a9wH Sa6aXqdRKfezXX7wdJ03EU30EiJEa8OCdqGDq2OF8wnmS4arvz4tIP+otMiGbmNaPH cQbiVVUVxZrhtY7PIS9/VEr8z6e3fmEzc9jr35RqCZFFc42MGxDzuhO817eoGwKyrS KV7noXZ3Wdka9UfwhvvW8K1SODZezM766cSWGskCqlJ7SqT4lktMH5GoSoOFDJ/sA+ g3hAvfPj8mcnJva7fYfDK5qshpe89PmFcCFv7zsVlnJqJb7mDQ2YMKa9c32rKk2IA5 elA0wbr7ltY5A== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Thoughts_on_steel_vs_copper_gas_lines?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno. The copper ones on my '32 mg and '29 morris are still in fine shape. Just checked the '39 MG TB : both copper fuel lines and the four central oiling lines are original and perfect. Hmmmm......Just dunno.... Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave Connitt" To: Subject: [TR] Thoughts on steel vs copper gas lines Date: Thu, Apr 4, 2013 19:02 List, I can't believe I am getting close to completion on my TR4A finally after 12 years but here I am! One of the things I need to do is run a gas line from the fuel pump to the carbs and the short piece from the fuel pump to the line going back to the tank (about a foot I guess). I am thinking I should use a steel line as it will be less likely to crack. On the other hand, I can remember on the old cars (1920's) that my dad and I restored back in the day (1960's) all the gas lines were copper. I know, they didn't have seat belts either but that's another story. Anyway, steel or copper? I know it will be harder to bend but I think it will be safer. Also, what dia. should I use for the steel vacuum line from the carb to the distributor? I am also considering installing a shut off valve between the pipe from the tank and the fuel pump, (maybe right on the pump) for the long winter nap so gas doesn't leak anywhere. Hoping to receive my wire harness soon, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 20:06:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2008C44581 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C62344532 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:39:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20047 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2013 01:36:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2013 01:36:16 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=60415 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UNvZg-00010k-4q for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:36:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:36:13 -0500 To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <515DF65F.2030806@charter.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would only use a forum type of site if it would send me e-mails of all new posts and let me reply to the post via e-mail (without having to log into the forum and especially without needing to enter a Captcha to finish a post - one of the forums in my work life works that way and consequently isn't used as much as another forum I'm in which allows e-mail replies). Personally I like the list exactly the way it is. The inability to send attachments is easily dealt with and I'm sure prevents a bunch of people from getting viruses and such. Tony Drews ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 20:53:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F574472F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:53:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9AD44613 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L2FN1l0011GXsucAE2TEPn; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:27:14 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L2TE1l0022yr1eL8U2TEtR; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:27:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 02:27:14 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Tony Drews s=q20121106; t=1365128834; bh=L5y7YK8C1catbjjpIKAtvEpMQGLbgMawU9sIk9Z/bzg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=BrfqfuB7TBB73METRBVVhIBlmacvqgeWQ67PcMHEpqtiU+4pFskzRsra0qfUP5zRu TTXjXjMTQam3X4nijY4wcFF393FAisIJFM2gHSVttQAbEs8KSWxYJ+2pQIWtaEo7Y5 TEx3MGZ7THuIU6GFKX7indwIK1GAhBameutPsxSe/tVLiBXYtVdcN3wF6IGB+//1Qt ZlZcvB4vOz8/pb5/UnOk6jQoh4id825QID8pbcaivqAuG5uB7QjDwex+pwZF2gqVsp vcdpxyLu/oZIxooZDgb6U6+OyoQIa9zFq0Wc3AghcClzi5id0W0DALverBT+OIcRJf 0ZSSzDSuXnRmA== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What he said. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Drews" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:36:13 PM > Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? > I would only use a forum type of site if it would send me e-mails of > all new posts and let me reply to the post via e-mail (without having > to log into the forum and especially without needing to enter a > Captcha to finish a post - one of the forums in my work life works > that way and consequently isn't used as much as another forum I'm in > which allows e-mail replies). > > Personally I like the list exactly the way it is. The inability to > send attachments is easily dealt with and I'm sure prevents a bunch > of people from getting viruses and such. > > Tony Drews > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 21:08:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DD544794 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F97445DD for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:40:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with ESMTP id QGQ64554; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:37:54 -0500 From: "Michael Marr" To: "'Tony Drews'" , References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <515DF65F.2030806@charter.net> <20130405020556.92142445AE@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:37:44 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4xobXObAsnFCs9Qv+fqvK6QEfhJAABJE8A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was being facetious, of course, when I demanded kittens and puppies. I like it just the way it is. We can always go to Facebook for all the bells, whistles, kittens, puppies and political discourse. Mike > > I would only use a forum type of site if it would send me e-mails of > all new posts and let me reply to the post via e-mail (without having > to log into the forum and especially without needing to enter a Captcha > to finish a post - one of the forums in my work life works that way and > consequently isn't used as much as another forum I'm in which allows e- > mail replies). > > Personally I like the list exactly the way it is. The inability to > send attachments is easily dealt with and I'm sure prevents a bunch of > people from getting viruses and such. > > Tony Drews ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 21:08:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEF5447DD for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EE24467A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:44:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 994291C000073; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mhe001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.129]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6CD2EE000085; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:41:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> To: dave@ranteer.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 68.237.136.146 by webmail-m296.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.37) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:41:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:41:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365129689; bh=wUALglkEUEbXc7GhLEzD+C8drqJCUvw36c9JgyJnqg4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vP9Irgn9nHX00V6mVNfnG35FeCHfWvcNmQ/bPdSVs0I5BitVUXyMm2Ri4tVzk+8jj Ksvc+Crzxc/zwAjcTble7X8rZNnwZrOqrlwAf6QO6JQpoOd+rQ0DbWQrXPppagFJN7 cPzJIUegogeN1uQcNf+sb1BI+flJo/y4GbDCMZWM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c8515e39d9171f Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Seeing as all the TSF and TCF cars were built between March and October 1962, a 1959 build date just doesn't seem possible! :) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Dave To: triumphs Sent: Thu, Apr 4, 2013 8:45 pm Subject: [TR] tr3b hi. I just brought home a tr3b....they claim itbs a 59? is that possible? TCF 1402 L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 21:24:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE1F4480A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:24:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCD344731 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id KuDn1l00H1GXsucA12sn4V; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:52:47 +0000 Received: from Dell ([24.5.127.12]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L2sm1l0070GAcNo8U2smwG; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:52:46 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'Dave'" , References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:52:47 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4xltNJrCqoEimlT9a3AL9b2/JqhAAEU/tg Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1365130367; bh=XOljv/YGdW7n7myxuoJIsNQnuyUs2I0tw767sGtuLoU=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qq46XeT9pzKi4+hs2W712hG8mxYnfnHW1h0WGiEvNsgoi5+mj98AYTvZcxzoOhzao TLTCBkoTL0wB3BBX8stKRbw0ZPVQmJJ0TSwEVkrVkK4c3sXl5MBKQnag0tuOV63WmB nDEYH0JN+9V+ovDWmV3lLkJot+YNAtoAtleVPa3gvBa3n1XCz0ZnVq9eFDr71N65sK t4eRmC6cwH9Qbxne31RtjgZVTY8wx0+Q9YBA6i1XtRv2vG0v1du8S64fPSiGDmsP7L HSaZ8lUJJ2ZRQzULX8LFY/dnkYZoIaj7QmJLagJqJ9C6Mbe/UeZy5Gh+B9ZYK/paK5 WIDYDsfm4ZQEA== Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Congrats on your new find. If I were doing it over, I would put a shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. That would allow working on any part of the system without draining the tank. Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:18 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] tr3b hi. I just brought home a tr3b. guy really didnbt know what he had. no rust (really!), decent interior, trunk fine, hasnbt run since? but b bwas running when parkedb donbt you just love it? supposedly still positive ground, no side curtains, lousy paint. 2 questions - they claim itbs a 59? is that possible? TCF 1402 L and there is nothing behind the little dzus covers on the spare tire cover. how do I get it open? thanks! ps b will post pictures later tonight. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 21:24:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23244851 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01424473F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:03:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L0rm1l0071Y3wxoA1309C1; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:00:09 +0000 Received: from Dell ([24.5.127.12]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L3081l00C0GAcNo8b308oZ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 03:00:09 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:00:09 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4xdLhmPtB6DsbDQ32nm1SEe9N0mgANAb2w Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1365130809; bh=lwGpZ8ATw2E2o2a4IO/Er8//BSLpZQ7iKDaJLWN1gnw=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b/7KpTfBSZLHXIIJTmsmEFsgUh1yd/8vpxKcPyrtsTstcA97wQUyxZD1G9HCIs9v/ rqPaadrblksS1UhyRU2r7ZUNTcBIzLGRVMrsPpIl5q/0/MTD6HOeG+CrKKPZrM2E3x /gBLmSJ7mURaVaKRQxjoUA0RPGsj4yHH/FhIpCTtkB6KzgAQ3nWlorihL9GGYjg5w4 vJSwA8yd+mWTgvCgWZLyPNBgOkvYdG9S5X3nhiUyr1Ee6sxMNK7pm1WWAzW3OLBLNo YwgHfCte0lfnysYrcwwvAlHdHYnKppSIcNWtS5HZR5ZmMFj+nH2PwXQ0YqIzRECtG2 3own0YdWaclyA== Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nope, pretty much all were because something broke. Don't have much experience with forums, aren't they basically "pull" technology - you have to go there and see what's new? I like this list because it's a "push" technology, if something is new it comes and tells me. Embedded photos/graphics would be nice, but including a link to a photo sharing site is easy enough and keeps the size of the messages small. JMHO, Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Hiscock Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:17 PM To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? "If it ain't broke..." So all you guys with gear reduction starters, with aluminum radiators, with thermostatically-controlled electric fans, with five-speed gearbox upgrades, with rear main seal replacements, with radial tires. You all replaced those because the originals were broken? None of those were upgrades because better technology was available? I doubt it. The list is useful. But it's antiquated and almost non-functional in a graphics- and photo-oriented world. I appreciate the dialog and the information -- best in the TR world. But the interface is antediluvian. A modern forum would be much better. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM, wrote: > If it is not broken, do not repair it. > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > > To: Triumphs@autox.team.net > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:02:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? > > I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't > > change nothing." > > > > Dave > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something > > > of value. > > > > > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you > > > like to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel > > > free to pontificate. > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 21:52:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1127942B90 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f54.google.com (mail-da0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D066A4479C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id p1so1405831dad.13 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=pPcMtoXhG/8Vxf5STk6eqTH6AhXezngqiYCwqKvAXyU=; b=Le5i6g2cYWpguvFkpoHlm8thOBjUnklWzV+9osEEPBLRuqAC9nHthft6n731iLXjnY ZkSqPN9+TP9pgm3QnM5aHzcm2w9QBvhEnveBZzVDDgJgrB2CuRdf0Za2pY2tgTWmd4k5 CgWGHTHjW1VPQnA/PKKZx0JGbVxTFpUWuU2jlF/rgEiCFfUhQxh+/um8qkoCY01924/4 cQL5DwkH0akZwdTQ2I7eDhy9fj5pQ6lMtN3qICcO1SJ/1zo4y4cfsMg3Bfpp4Va8dD/U g6VQuQ+LViT2CZN8AQKhE8iaaRJbjwmVgLFG2Fq+aEIabX0EgxnEzf1g57jPKqHftkHJ osZg== ap3mr13085705pad.102.1365132253817; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwaws006 (75-149-51-150-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [75.149.51.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ij15sm14013973pac.4.2013.04.04.20.24.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Apr 2013 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roger Wilson" To: "'Dave'" , References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:23:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4xlsknO+qpcTGZTVas9sneiiPA4AAFbSXw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From my information TCF 1402 L would be a 1962, manufactured after May when they started installing the 2138cc engine and all-synchro box Roger '60 TR3 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:18 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] tr3b hi. I just brought home a tr3b. guy really didnbt know what he had. no rust (really!), decent interior, trunk fine, hasnbt run since? but b bwas running when parkedb donbt you just love it? supposedly still positive ground, no side curtains, lousy paint. 2 questions - they claim itbs a 59? is that possible? TCF 1402 L and there is nothing behind the little dzus covers on the spare tire cover. how do I get it open? thanks! ps b will post pictures later tonight. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rjwilson1250@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 22:08:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42574485F for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35BA4479C for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKR003TDJIWJ723@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:40:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <000101ce31a9$af674da0$0e35e8e0$@net> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:40:05 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQL6ZjEI073NvCA4/6Q477913FNEsQF3r/BqAdz7jcsBhu5LM5ZHtL6w Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I agree on both points. I belong to several forums for a variety of topics. It is just too time consuming to go out and find nothing of interest or value. The m-list is simple (like the TR) and easy to view, reply, delete. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kinderlehrer Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:00 PM To: 'Don Hiscock'; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Nope, pretty much all were because something broke. Don't have much experience with forums, aren't they basically "pull" technology - you have to go there and see what's new? I like this list because it's a "push" technology, if something is new it comes and tells me. Embedded photos/graphics would be nice, but including a link to a photo sharing site is easy enough and keeps the size of the messages small. JMHO, Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Don Hiscock Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:17 PM To: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? "If it ain't broke..." So all you guys with gear reduction starters, with aluminum radiators, with thermostatically-controlled electric fans, with five-speed gearbox upgrades, with rear main seal replacements, with radial tires. You all replaced those because the originals were broken? None of those were upgrades because better technology was available? I doubt it. The list is useful. But it's antiquated and almost non-functional in a graphics- and photo-oriented world. I appreciate the dialog and the information -- best in the TR world. But the interface is antediluvian. A modern forum would be much better. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM, wrote: > If it is not broken, do not repair it. > > Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA > 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue > 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch > 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl > 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red > pethier@comcast.net > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier > http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica > http://www.mnautox.com > http://www.mntriumphs.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dave1massey@cs.com > > To: Triumphs@autox.team.net > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:02:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? > > I like the consistency. As they say in my neck of the woods, "Don't > > change nothing." > > > > Dave > > > > In a message dated 4/3/2013 4:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > > But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something > > > of value. > > > > > > What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you > > > like to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel > > > free to pontificate. > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 23:05:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370344890 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 23:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from davesource.com (davesource.com [66.135.55.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A679F4484D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:41:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dave by davesource.com with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNyPr-0000U1-2p for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:38:19 -0700 From: David Ljung Madison To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:35:06 -0700 References: <515DF65F.2030806@charter.net> Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? (Don Hiscock) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Yeah. Somebody should do something like this: > http://www.team.net/forums/ That is fantastic. I really love what Mark has done, but it's time to move to a forum where one can post photos and follow threads easily, I'm glad Mark has implemented this on team.net, but we need to move the entire mailing list population over to the forums for this to work. And we can satisfy the old school folks who want a digest if Mark was able to install something like: http://phpbbservices.com/digests_wp/ Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 ----- You can have my UNIX when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers ------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 01:07:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7365944943 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC0448D1 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:44:22 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=Dvz7_ezy4v8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nIMSLE6L0fQA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=OVWMTOK2NjpoLuRwvwUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 79/50-11869-4127E515; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 06:41:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 23:41:31 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4xdLhmPtB6DsbDQ32nm1SEe9N0mgANAb2wAAeGskA= Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Don't > have much experience with forums, aren't they basically > "pull" technology - you have to go there and see what's new? All of the forums that I visit offer some sort of "push" option. Most you can configure to deliver an email with the contents of either the first post in a new thread, or each post in the thread. Some also offer 'digest' mode. The Stag forum even has an email list more-or-less integrated with it. It used to work quite well, but then one admin got tired of it and somehow it was never quite the same under the new admin. Which is one of the things I really like about Mark's lists; they always work the same. Don't have to keep re-learning where the knobs are and what they do. Kind of like the old Chrysler "push button" transmissions, which were great transmissions (for their day) but if you learned to drive with one and then got in a car with a regular PRNDL, you could be left wondering how to push the 'Drive' button. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 01:38:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11D744971 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE61444710 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:10:11 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=Acsjzsuqqm4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=gOGM_DbXuPgA:10 a=bmu8gwlv39peDVILbSAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55022] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 5E/70-06772-2287E515; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:07:15 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave Connitt'" , Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 00:07:21 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4xlH/Ww/c05/KgRkqxUhKUdVKRGwANIpiQ Subject: Re: [TR] Thoughts on steel vs copper gas lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > One of the things I need to do is run a gas line from the > fuel pump to the carbs and the short piece from the fuel pump > to the line going back to the tank (about a foot I guess). I > am thinking I should use a steel line as it will be less Steel was original, and what I would be inclined to stick with. One problem with "copper" is that nothing is really made with pure copper. And what alloy you get is important to things like resistance to work hardening (which can lead to cracks) and so on. > Also, what dia. should I use for > the steel vacuum line from the carb to the distributor? The size isn't critical, just whatever works easily with your connections. IIRC the original line on a 4A was about 3/16" od and had push-on fittings. I did use copper there (alloy 122 I think) because I couldn't easily source steel line in the right size for my TR3A (with 1/8" compression fittings) at the time. Now I believe the usual suspects carry it. > I am also considering installing a shut off valve between the > pipe from the tank and the fuel pump, (maybe right on the > pump) for the long winter nap so gas doesn't leak anywhere. That was standard equipment on the early cars, but the valve was mounted to the frame and had a hard connection to the line to the tank (so you could turn the valve off to replace the soft line to the pump). Seems like a great idea to me; not sure if they discontinued it to reduce costs or because the valve they used was more prone to leak than anything else Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 06:45:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2244483D for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 06:45:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7882A44827 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 06:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 10BA51C000044 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DF81BE00008C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:22:19 -0400 (EDT) References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com> <2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: Triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-d153.sysops.aol.com (205.188.58.133) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:22:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:22:19 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365164540; bh=/H4kKJvbImGVTf0IvXy3kf7Fe8YVjN3LKdDvYi7dJp0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uuOWrjB8iQyisu8vfNoIt0fb/P+Zyg6emyiBgLxzHoAqz0Fdtt5+k3/z6YjsUvNRf nLQFWu6UXtyzyncRvHYYuj4PfMfICbkIPJfMQSOtRUgykaoTMiy1sQvXECTSQAsovU ZLZFt0PzAt3fHRlJQPkFuKrhm4a52fjcHhwa6rqo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948515ec1fb1fd6 Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3 is still all as it was. That is the whole point of a car that old. If I wanted something more modern I would get a TR6 and install an electric fuel pump, and electric fan, electronic ignition and a gear reduction starter. Actually, I've done all that. The point is there is room in my garage for both and there is room on the internet for both forums and this list. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Don Hiscock "If it ain't broke..." So all you guys with gear reduction starters, with aluminum radiators, with thermostatically-controlled electric fans, with five-speed gearbox upgrades, with rear main seal replacements, with radial tires. You all replaced those because the originals were broken? None of those were upgrades because better technology was available? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 08:02:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DF044A3B for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E80446B2 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:43:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6204D1C00010C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (user-108707f.cable.mindspring.com [64.131.128.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id E7E5AE0000A0 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Schwartz Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:40:56 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365169260; bh=nxaclV65NZp1GFikLyDvA/3+U3sOKYuXlqVOXy1oQvU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=rZyegFCscFXT/PmZJDadCI60GITpL2b12unzRSnHoiOvkDvwNuOyTSmkTzcNAryLu tmY+nWNJZju/jx8Pmd2CTpQFWWU293JiLUQ1YuoUkT+bkYeOysjzcYWI+7s3qzoU7y MDDmAWYB+LdJoh/kulKbNSA1pf7VdzoXXUhZ8jfg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2945515ed46b65a9 Subject: Re: [TR] : Tr3-b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello , my is a 1962 Tr3-b . Comm # is TCF1222LO. Car is very nice and is equipped with a judson supercharger. Car will be for sale in a few weeks. Larry Schwartz. l1j1s@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 08:32:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77399430A6 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E40449AE for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130405140248.OCGL10448.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:02:48 -0400 Received: from UserPC ([96.32.2.169]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id LE2o1l00K3enFnk05E2omZ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:02:48 -0400 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=Dvz7_ezy4v8A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=nIMSLE6L0fQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JsryDh5uAAAA:8 a=x3cXccTDBcAbiPdKsEcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ororg4E4qSYA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <515CA023.7020300@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:02:46 -0400 Thread-Index: AQH/hMktfzzFKYqnnDW3wHJaprifiZhlAZ1Q Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like the current format. When I need help or suggestions, they show up within a day or less from when I post to the list. Also, I can very quickly decide if other subject areas are something for me to follow or not. It's simple, quick and to the point. Thanks to Mark for his time in running the show. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:33 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? So the annual fund drive is coming up, where I beg for folks to support Team.Net with monetary contributions [ http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often ;-) ] But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of value. What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to pontificate. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 09:48:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F109344A78 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF2944698 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (host-74-211-0-30.beyondbb.com [74.211.0.30]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LngZT-1UpER62fjb-00hnEf; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:14:57 -0400 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" From: Jeremiah Curry Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:14:14 -0600 ffmtaJPpVNUjQwgqxNtjW7YltUx/jyMPUfNnMG/wtf9HRe4O9Z PQ3zoh7mbStrGHNdaEEB5dsl2Unw6jDuIppU8OdPPeEhlN8iku yBBUc/hE03+KoXmkXzedCaIOjlvmzwH2yZiyR9k3hJss2trhgo k60pUiRZBd4+b6zuMuvaFKxCdGmNB2iePJh+Hv/zkYSkOiuiOq 65vWNVuRvAfgyciJ+MM/+UokpyT30CNu5uJ59oT+I1B5QoLXOz LoT6WXT9ZerH0hTb9nvj3Hy2eqp29mJqxxRcSHwpvU3cfaNyoL BKzGaSo7C5o9Yw/k6JOtNIIIMK4dL170EpFIvJ7Wt Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I prefer the list format when asking a question and the forum format when searching for something. -----Original Message----- From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" Sent: b4/b5/b2013 8:30 AM To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" ; "'Triumphs'" Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? I like the current format. When I need help or suggestions, they show up within a day or less from when I post to the list. Also, I can very quickly decide if other subject areas are something for me to follow or not. It's simple, quick and to the point. Thanks to Mark for his time in running the show. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:33 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? So the annual fund drive is coming up, where I beg for folks to support Team.Net with monetary contributions [ http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often ;-) ] But I want to make sure that folks feel they are getting something of value. What do you like about the current Team.Net setup? What would you like to see changed, added, reworked? Comments, complaints, feel free to pontificate. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jeremiah@curryclan.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 10:05:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985E244AD3 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s9.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s9.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F4644A38 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:47:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W43 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 5 Apr 2013 08:44:04 -0700 From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:44:03 -0400 References: <515DF65F.2030806@charter.net>, FILETIME=[66CB3050:01CE3214] Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My opinion. List good, forum bad. Our local british car club has had a list going for years. Not gobs of activity but pretty much weekly postings. We tried switching over to a forum last year. The silence on the forum was defining. After a few months we switched back to the list and activity came back. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks I guess. Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 10:33:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A68044B0C for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from sysfx.com (sysfx.com [204.107.12.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F7C44A3D for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:18:24 -0600 (MDT) s=MDaemon; t=1365178524; x=1365783324; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: Organization:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Reply-To; bh=RSyAjAvQj8+C3JOx25Dg7PR9piP/6ndpibcc/QjpncU=; b=kX7 W6JCbbLwwNzHsUXIqJfu+bXQ2AKtQj0RkjM4rrsnORi9QWUK9tl6rpBKZFGgowTr 0ZkWY7IX495UPBpQ6UDx8vBhAeaBx4FbAjHQvhTOBJUWM8Kry2hnExNajr1oSzDY jWC8ryEFad/HvZYp9Eo3CgO2L7Iz8sm7HFeB6Q0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=indiefilmnet.com; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=goP2ggtaE+Pju7QouFZlQNGQPZ/mReOyxaYSi/UsMEzUaDNokBrUX58cJQgM w0LrE1aIszf4MP9LgCGAX7cQj5OUtVbCFJ/8NgPNLG5udvIEukM8snD8T c8aDGx1Hr98Y3DHr27JF1M3hhQcq5ArAioAI3cCYo1dwTEYxgxGWI8=; Received: from MARK-i7.IFN-MTL.COM by sysfx.com (Cipher TLSv1:-SHA:128) (MDaemon PRO v13.0.4) with ESMTP id 42-md50000131486.msg for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:15:23 -0400 processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:17:00 -0400 From: Mark Hooper To: "'trmarty@hotmail.com'" , 'Triumph List' Organization: IndieFIlmNet Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I understand that experience Marty. I like to see the conversation going on, even if I have nothing to contribute or request at the moment. It's a bit of a virtual club, formed by people with a real common interest. And the occasional off-topics are fun to watch and sometimes participate in. In a forum, I jump in to find some data and then get out. Not a community, just a reference. Mark -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty sukey Sent: April-05-13 11:44 AM To: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? My opinion. List good, forum bad. Our local british car club has had a list going for years. Not gobs of activity but pretty much weekly postings. We tried switching over to a forum last year. The silence on the forum was defining. After a few months we switched back to the list and activity came back. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks I guess. Marty ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 10:50:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210F644B32 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:50:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4250644A88 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id yuJ0Jnba4usg2BCP for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:15:22 -0700 From: Pete Arakelian To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:15:23 -0700 Thread-Topic: The good, the bad, the ?? Thread-Index: Ac4yGMYKmWgcWKEFSpe6zAUy4tcThw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I too like the current streaming style of this list. No need to go to a forum, pick a topic, find a thread, etc. Here it all runs along like a stream of consciousness. Plus I learn about things I had not thought of, and have used things I have followed without needing only to use them later. Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 10:51:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA3E44BAF for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5A544A81 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-457eebd9.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.235.217]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MKS00LCSIYEX7S0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 12:25:20 -0400 From: Bob To: triumphs@autox.team.net Thread-index: Ac4yFMz65JtCdF2EQ2Sy+68wLwNRWQABKK+A References: Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "If it ain't broke..." Gear Reduction Starter - YES. First - When I acquired my TR6 I had know idea how many "starts" were left on the almost 40 year old starter. Second - Gear Reduction starter sure works well in sub-freezing weather. The original starter is safely stored. Regards, Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 11:05:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E756344BBD for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f178.google.com (mail-gh0-f178.google.com [209.85.160.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6225644A38 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gh0-f178.google.com with SMTP id g24so633296ghb.23 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=K9p8PWT838nkgYN9dss/1B2Tf+cCI3lg1aWO8lLnWIU=; b=BBPFED5ImV3ZUyxLGEfJqMHlbuv/QQu3NeK8OhMGL0zz7xbL8hKJQS533qqcHqgJeA kAMuH5qp9mMoSLA/G24uyx243EhWzzHhkSnpbe3w4LvjQc3CWaR7LJCrT21D5aetm58l 8c5HbMECcY6p+vxD5SuP2INEiMZ8N4BB1g0/VG+uf4Aelcfqklwn5ksly9lm7CQ33BSc o2cZ4d/XXt5UyJNAA3a24+2+x038JphWFOSpjDEFNQ8NK0mvc3ARug46LmDN4HzpA0SC PPT54I2tke8XuJ1vggxIgbWVNHPkKYWwGnhOkrHSEqJLuFe5KbuTHQq42hI3D4NkY58j B9XA== m32mr6841216yhe.198.1365180292745; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([184.88.120.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d49sm7921586yhc.27.2013.04.05.09.44.50 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:44:51 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:44:49 -0400 References: To: mhooper@indiefilmnet.com Cc: Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 5 Apr, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Mark Hooper wrote: > I understand that experience Marty. I like to see the conversation going on, > even if I have nothing to contribute or request at the moment. It's a bit of a > virtual club, formed by people with a real common interest. And the occasional > off-topics are fun to watch and sometimes participate in. In a forum, I jump > in to find some data and then get out. Not a community, just a reference. I come at this from a strange perspective: a university professor. To me that are two different products from this list: 1) I have problem X, can someone tell me how to fix it, and 2) wow, I never thought about X that way. To me they are both of valuable, but for the most part, I probably learn something weekly from the "I never thought about X that way" and that sometimes helps me avoid a potential problem before it happens. JAW John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 12:52:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517B743A04 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DB244C9D; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:38:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c7f8f.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.127.143]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MKS006GNOYDSQ20@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:35:00 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4yLEeO23xLCMd8SVmghr8OSEEHfw== Subject: [TR] Windshield from Moss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Folks - I bought a windshield from Moss Motors back in January 2013. It's for my TR6 but it says it also fits TR4, Spits, GT6s, etc. Well, it doesn't fit a TR6. The glass was cut unevenly and the passenger side is too tall. Moss is sending a replacement & it is hoped that it will fit. Just a word of caution. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 14:08:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F89542AF0 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0E440079 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:38:21 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=CZhAJbgv3ykA:10 a=DuTKlRpJ1fsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=Q5EUMm4jEQwA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=fNymzI8Upmux_DNdo1YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:42016] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DF/29-25887-A772F515; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:35:22 +0000 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 15:35:27 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: Dennis Culligan References: <001b01ce322c$47e6f030$d7b4d090$@net> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Windshield from Moss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, To late for you but I got ws glass for both my 4 and 6 from TRF and the fit was perfect. If the 2nd glass is no better you may want to ask for a refund and get your glass from TRF. Bob On 04/05/2013 02:35 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > Folks - > > I bought a windshield from Moss Motors back in January 2013. It's for my > TR6 > > but it says it also fits TR4, Spits, GT6s, etc. Well, it doesn't fit a TR6. > The glass was > > cut unevenly and the passenger side is too tall. Moss is sending a > replacement & > > it is hoped that it will fit. Just a word of caution. > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 23:24:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9E242C17 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 23:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9761403D9 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 23:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170158pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MKT008WX5219IJ3@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:22:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.101.255.163 ([71.101.255.163]) by vznit170190 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:22:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:22:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Starter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I pulled the started this evening - not as difficult as I thought it would be. (pulled carbs and came up through the top rather than below) it is dated July 65 not 68 - not that it matters. On the bench - the starter turns like a champ but there is no movement of the bendix (and no 'launching'). Is it supposed to pull back into the ring or push out. The gear is extended from the starter body my starter: http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/Information%20Items/Lucas25550BStarter.jpg.html image from web with bendix partially back toward body. http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/Lucas25550BStarterBendix.jpg.html I tried to move it but nothing... but I am not sure which way and how to turn it. Is that the issue. it is stuck 'out'? Suggestions? Thanks Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida On 04/04/13, Randall wrote: > I do not recall a rubber coupler. Without taking it out, is there a way to > tell if I have an early or later starter? Lucas Part number on the box was > 25550 (it was new in box - date stamped July 1968). 25550 is the later style starter. Has an exposed shaft some 6" long with a big coil spring at the end. That coil spring provides the cushion effect, in place of the bonded rubber drive used in the earlier starters. The earlier starters also have a cast iron shroud over the pinion gear. In this link, the upper LH starter image is the later type, the upper RH is the earlier type. http://goo.gl/OAVnc (the photos aren't scaled quite the same, the motor section is about the same diameter for both of them) > Is it possible to apply grease without taking it out - or should I just plan > on taking on this task this Saturday. Sounds like you'll be busy on Saturday. > It might be obvious if I was looking > at the starter - but where? Turn the pinion gear with your fingers. One direction it should force the shaft to turn, but the other direction should move the Bendix first. When the Bendix moves, the gear moves closer to the motor (assuming you have the later type starter). If it is at all sticky or the shaft turns easier than the Bendix, then you've got a problem. You can also test it on the bench using a battery and jumper cables to power it, but be certain the starter is securely anchored. It's probably best to use the starter cable from the car to make connection to the post, as otherwise the high current may damage the post. The Bendix should extend the instant you apply power to the starter (while it is trying to jump off the bench and land on your foot). It's also possible the drive has come apart completely, but hopefully that is unlikely. Happened to me during a 2000 mile drive many years ago, and by the time I got home the big spring had exited through the side of the bellhousing, causing a crack that ruined the entire gearbox housing. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 00:21:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E230E42EC9 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 00:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC16E42E39 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 00:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.51]) by hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130405224005296.UXCG19596@hrndva-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:40:05 +0000 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=Dvz7_ezy4v8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=nIMSLE6L0fQA:10 a=V-Zs9heSLy_fR31DHn8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54849] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FE/B0-15190-C425F515; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:38:05 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" Cc: "Triumph List" References: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 17:38:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I sent this once, but don't think it went through (my mistake, nothing wrong with the list) Mark has stuck with the basic concept and just kept making it work better (Unlike some software service providers who seem to think they need to reinvent the wheel every 18 months, and make us relearn how to do the things we want to do and could do fine on the old system) , I remember when there was a significant and somewhat unrpedictable lag in posts to the list In the past sometimes I would see responses to my question before I saw my question on the list, but it works pretty quickly and consistently now. For those that want forum style they are out there to use, as pointed out Mark has created on, there is the British Car Forum, and others marque specific, and many of my fellow listers use them too, I too like the the "push" technology of the list, the daily "conversation" with my list buddies, who I feel I know and respect, even though I have never met most of them face to face, and I guess I feel it is somewhat appropriate that we soldier along with (ahem) old fashioned e-mail while we soldier along with our old tech but oh so charming LBCs. If you need to send a pic you can do a link, or send a pic direct to the person who needs it, I am fairly new to the triumph list, but have been on the Healey list for quite a while, the lists are a great resource. Greg Lemon TR250 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 00:36:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B322343068 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 00:36:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F220542C0A for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 00:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id l18so4307127wgh.13 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 23:10:29 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=baZk/4ACl9KkiL+nhcMOgLud/DfZQjWkcnNHsM/Gmic=; b=C76E+vqIzuXelqFlallS6f8loZ3/OhTkQs+JHlW0nwwJAZm6Qz0EBbeI/H9xPNXWkd pLiDCbwYjZ5HmeYqcjDzVoQ9ETHSHFQzK1yapDs+p7N3jgjrJtlrk90gR/l0wlHywU+p 1WIRZJ1icqDjSnaqXO8ABeIlFC8NSI1g/5nthp30t4bIWKR2hy1CsywOSXZCM0HthgrR dplitOwhSx1jz7HCEwoxxLBvXe02Lg0xt6klvmJTdPIXcwR85kpKq28gXu9pV8TT6U7h mRZmFzl55qUlwM7ccqn682ehFqDWbkKjKCpSoIsO6Rpjx6ZYcs9+/uSGKmvXssHkKZea ZB6Q== pf8mr6428198wjb.31.1365195651141; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-3.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fg6sm6612279wib.10.2013.04.05.14.00.47 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.31.21.143]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 21:00:48 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dixie4" To: , "Tony Drews" References: <5530c.12170df9.3e8ec5ef@cs.com><2084071899.145699.1365097609597.JavaMail.root@sz0220a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><515DF65F.2030806@charter.net> <20130405020605.0062A4461C@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:02:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My sentiments exactly. Adrian !966 TR4A CT64306 O Wales UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Drews" To: Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? >I would only use a forum type of site if it would send me e-mails of all >new posts and let me reply to the post via e-mail (without having to log >into the forum and especially without needing to enter a Captcha to finish >a post - one of the forums in my work life works that way and consequently >isn't used as much as another forum I'm in which allows e-mail replies). > > Personally I like the list exactly the way it is. The inability to send > attachments is easily dealt with and I'm sure prevents a bunch of people > from getting viruses and such. > > Tony Drews > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6226 - Release Date: 04/05/13 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 09:25:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87913428F6 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E94344287C for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 09:16:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 712 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2013 15:16:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO just64.justhost.com) (173.254.28.64) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2013 15:16:05 -0000 Received: from [173.22.113.197] (port=57844 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UOUqa-0005CK-Oy; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 09:16:04 -0600 Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:16:01 -0500 To: Carl TR ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews References: <19360428.381549.1365207769928.JavaMail.root@vznit170190> {sentby:smtp auth 173.22.113.197 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Starter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It appears to be in the proper position. With the shaft sticking out the right side of the motor (as you have it in the picture), if you try to move the top of the gear toward you (anti-clockwise if you're looking at the motor with the shaft extended toward yourself)), the gear should move down the shaft toward the starter motor before it turns the shaft. You should be able to push the gear toward the motor and have it slide down the shaft while turning a bit pretty easily. Tony D At 07:22 PM 4/5/2013, Carl TR wrote: >I pulled the started this evening - not as difficult as I thought it >would be. (pulled carbs and came up through the top rather than below) >it is dated July 65 not 68 - not that it matters. > >On the bench - the starter turns like a champ but there is no >movement of the bendix (and no 'launching'). Is it supposed to pull >back into the ring or push out. The gear is extended from the starter body > >my starter: >http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/Information%20Items/Lucas25550BStarter.jpg.html > >image from web with bendix partially back toward body. >http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/Lucas25550BStarterBendix.jpg.html > >I tried to move it but nothing... but I am not sure which way and >how to turn it. >Is that the issue. it is stuck 'out'? Suggestions? > >Thanks > >Carl >1961 TR3A - TS81802LO >mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a >Tampa, Florida > > >On 04/04/13, Randall >wrote: > > > I do not recall a rubber coupler. Without taking it out, is there a way to > > tell if I have an early or later starter? Lucas Part number on the box was > > 25550 (it was new in box - date stamped July 1968). > >25550 is the later style starter. Has an exposed shaft some 6" long >with a big coil spring at the end. That coil spring provides the >cushion effect, in place of the bonded rubber drive used in the >earlier starters. The earlier starters also have a cast iron shroud >over the pinion gear. In this link, the upper LH starter image is >the later type, the upper RH is the earlier type. >http://goo.gl/OAVnc >(the photos aren't scaled quite the same, the motor section is about >the same diameter for both of them) > > > Is it possible to apply grease without taking it out - or should > I just plan > > on taking on this task this Saturday. > >Sounds like you'll be busy on Saturday. > > > It might be obvious if I was looking > > at the starter - but where? > >Turn the pinion gear with your fingers. One direction it should >force the shaft to turn, but the other direction should move the >Bendix first. When the Bendix moves, the gear moves closer to the >motor (assuming you have the later type starter). If it is at all >sticky or the shaft turns easier than the Bendix, then you've got a problem. > >You can also test it on the bench using a battery and jumper cables >to power it, but be certain the starter is securely anchored. It's >probably best to use the starter cable from the car to make >connection to the post, as otherwise the high current may damage the >post. The Bendix should extend the instant you apply power to the >starter (while it is trying to jump off the bench and land on your foot). > >It's also possible the drive has come apart completely, but >hopefully that is unlikely. Happened to me during a 2000 mile drive >many years ago, and by the time I got home the big spring had exited >through the side of the bellhousing, causing a crack that ruined the >entire gearbox housing. > >--- Randall > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 14:16:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C903042981 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D19C403C7 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 13:52:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([216.25.141.235]) by p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id LjrT1l00854vo2Y01jrXW8; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:51:32 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> <000901ce31ac$f114a100$d33de300$@com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:50:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net now it makes sense. the vin tag http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/DSCN7198.JPG clearly says 59! funny. for those of you who want to see it, http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/ no sidecurtains. oh, well. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 14:48:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5C0446CB for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C5E44344 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:28:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.43] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:28:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:28:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365280093; bh=ljneJ5Mov2Jgd7OBSQVu2JhaWX06gALg2K5Rb8sV9YY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=hCwgRlunv8DK5b7mU6Ieaxj7wn0spKisEEzugPPIZkHBYrDEiqqidP7fCDFaMuuDdcHtPWuYSrF1b2PC3vTQzgOrBovl3Cz+SeP4oIjAzLdSx1E6cLIVWKD0WaurkO7uyHeN352yRcLC8HZ8y8Zuf+gEguDQ8Z7STVRIU9HFhKQ= madr4dCBc46g4U9SCrysdSRjhcNyyXK_9OGsVOIdxuKBz45xFg9SBbi7NfuQ bzuSRi9GDmhhH5AlH.yomfv.EMMLjeHkFl.sR3SfwpqDQPAcP_ahlvvpWUSn J5zsBMN9iyJAF9apKbawXjwSMWSKEDbL7HU_WHLBirtEHYK1NmSaxjTnZZeF 5wdDwPNW9PduwY.UraDBc1aRuc9.oTQr9OdeUTNDEWdcEM_2g7GI8pUVC7EE 1VuI6gjEh7F0IBwLx5dX2mRht_wa5.nkjGWjd28AFcfAdUHrseJUqIsSHiV0 1kbclHHsrkR7LHjGbDEkVUGMn9xImvDuBjd_hiqHsTLwPIJyQTd9sZh7oaN4 yZoXZYjzvLBT9f0i.h88FHte2uQ6FdVztQhMows3hSyqtAaRpUB7YVktaVYE SAqa2Dmu9hWCVX3UspTApPKs1mk7vlWOwHjG8bdOgtdVeTTe2kCUDlNp9BC3 huTMdEBV7VZ5w_SpG7mwY3Q-- plain) by smtp111.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Apr 2013 13:28:13 -0700 PDT References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> <000901ce31ac$f114a100$d33de300$@com> <54A7DF523F3C40FA8EE78594C02375C1@Datsun> From: WBEECH Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:28:11 -0500 To: Dave Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave , How did you manage to get 1959 plates for a 1962 car? Looks like a fun project. Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:50 PM, "Dave" wrote: now it makes sense. the vin tag http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/DSCN7198.JPG clearly says 59! funny. for those of you who want to see it, http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/ no sidecurtains. oh, well. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 14:49:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96E6447D7 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7148E44478 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:33:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.205] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:33:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2013 20:33:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365280404; bh=+/lPIC+D4KABqhPPVJ1USGp8EwIIlrAwK4bq5ris5Zc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=CPStFST9wRKMAPNOf2/Y2Ete1oTN0mTipnkwZpWypNMcQUvEunSCcYjaXVunMLlNAxsdUfN6sbkcCVxwiBZVnxpEt3yYEDcPQRkRZ5CgOfPk3wvF2RuolheiN5SBtBwx2/DD+bwCLmKwPXIvwwxhm705M19rWNk2m701It3ZBvw= cxb2ip6Le_LwfJxbWxQWFPChMjznDPLiX08AhPWSLFaZtXcuJF.dNAUWMQZB SRhLIWz.e421WwBp.dDiGDL6cY7brUMg1e.faDgXmrMXMf7.XFjJnY8BpXo9 TwgKP6EWocvVhz1f3Qgnc5PBSJvCn2.1qkytWNT204nJVhfo2J0ZIptQdLxK 9okcA92ag5VYQM4elXS53xsvfUTB9VR0K1g0rKTo_1LB_gxTw5r1eGSYxWBz 9tRs3kM9YYpbASIx5.y.smCMhnvChH1B9utxe6xBAFfyjYHOlvh6Xv808LBn sltc_DHBkpCsPRjv3le.AiihVKkXJ8r1EdLoVwdrmzmgA1Hnd9KghbsH3q2K gVHfnYnCqrg6kQB7_UMbqIUGQpp9ejKyLqHDFy8EyBO6Ehvc9lflzA.p8cqi 723cSBrbEv71tpQyqBIt0httFc7GZvBw0w_1sjuw46_z6sSjX648KfRJnv9u u0ocruNjXAJV6c3ON1AOOEw-- plain) by smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Apr 2013 13:33:24 -0700 PDT References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> <000901ce31ac$f114a100$d33de300$@com> <54A7DF523F3C40FA8EE78594C02375C1@Datsun> From: WBEECH Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:33:16 -0500 To: Dave Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That car is a dead ringer for Tarbaby when I brought him home six years ago. Looks like you have a good base for a fine restoration. Bill Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:50 PM, "Dave" wrote: now it makes sense. the vin tag http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/DSCN7198.JPG clearly says 59! funny. for those of you who want to see it, http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr3b/ no sidecurtains. oh, well. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 15:28:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBDF443DE for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:28:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809AB442E5 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LjW81l0040QuhwU59lRlok; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:25:45 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LlRl1l00V2xV5no3NlRlxt; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 21:25:45 +0000 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:25:45 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Dave (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1365283545; bh=G1FI/MSuPcZK4rH6P5ZI5l7cv6EglEsuXf85mD4vwz4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=GwrWwqt/en04zMdlIZN3Rada5ebnWyAjeFJtScsaB69yoO2ROt7Ck7d91oyIxceek RFkHLCVzvmHr5Y5YI7U9dryHg26j4EJ1Rcky9AvCUViHd8ojs04xQn8k/kNFDXuO7z bpNJ3Kdhu7WoThq21xwnUa58rK+UJ3G9t3XH/agPFKYHlJDvBewMgcKhzqBoiQEk2m BAI7cTqwAbb0d1kJcfp7N528Mz7RPzvcV4S2939Sz52QJ+wKrGk/J7/djr0uBhp/aE ex3civSYGIGhWMoDwc869McGZJwiYH5h2/XHTiB7C0NrAU7imQX+naYxiE51SAN1PO JsbDJ2Nb7RmvQ== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You do have an appreciably better car to start from than the usual, it seems. Question to the list: Weren't the original engines painted black with, I forget, some kind of number 3 or something painted in a different color underneath? Anyway, does the color of the engine paint suggest it's been rebuilt at one point? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire...Where I drove twice to work and back, and on the way home Friday, the top was down! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 16:28:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABA74485F for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:28:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AFA4443B for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:18:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([216.25.141.235]) by p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id LmJ11l00W54vo2Y01mJ2Hl; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:18:03 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <4190671562ED41C6855A052E518A2C63@Datsun> <000901ce31ac$f114a100$d33de300$@com> <54A7DF523F3C40FA8EE78594C02375C1@Datsun> <7ADA8126-B9CA-4005-B3B1-9272A1C18E5D@flash.net> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:15:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net they believed it was a 59, so they got 59 plates. and this all happened years ago. -----Original Message----- From: WBEECH Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 4:28 PM To: Dave Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Dave , How did you manage to get 1959 plates for a 1962 car? Looks like a fun project. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 16:28:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA3C448B6 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E356144422 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 16:18:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([216.25.141.235]) by p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id LmJ11l00W54vo2Y01mJ3Ho; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:18:03 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <484766113.600108.1365283545418.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:16:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net thanks, I think, for pointing that out. that car has obviously been restored. and, most unfortunately, they painted the engine red. perhaps they thought it was roses . . . -----Original Message----- From: terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:25 PM To: Dave Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b You do have an appreciably better car to start from than the usual, it seems. Question to the list: Weren't the original engines painted black with, I forget, some kind of number 3 or something painted in a different color underneath? Anyway, does the color of the engine paint suggest it's been rebuilt at one point? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire...Where I drove twice to work and back, and on the way home Friday, the top was down! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 17:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD504437E for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7924E4435B for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EEACD38000059; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mhe001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.129]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 98F65E000087; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:28:58 -0400 (EDT) References: <484766113.600108.1365283545418.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <6995E27F031C456C8C7ACFBE5B8068D8@Datsun> To: dave@ranteer.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 69.195.51.156 by Webmail-m122.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.212) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 06 Apr 2013 19:28:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:28:58 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365290938; bh=a77KHFDxmrWNWhKrBwmcS37tzt8eXROUl+QqqO3PdM4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LNoc2nZKkxHYNyGTm4kcyiVhxxeZC1Jz5BEYhHscmEBJqojPryfjTT5ZsRhieSmP3 UC3Q1Uzr5jvWTxuezLxI6klqnQL0oNHLcH0GftMjlDuRdUGyRTIo1KtMA0E0RTtD3H Sxfxl1Jro0uNsRkHyHjw6hkv7vAs08uVpt8wpx/Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a5160afba71b5 Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I knew of one pretty original TR3B out of Long Island whose long-time owner swore the red engine was as originally delivered. I've heard other instances of this as well, so who knows? As for the "1959" on the commission number plate, I think that simply indicated the year that that particular Corporation was formed (possibly having something to do with the end of the agreement to build Ferguson tractors or something like that? I know I've seen references buried somewhere in one of the Triumph history books). Nice looking 3B regardless! --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Dave thanks, I think, for pointing that out. that car has obviously been restored. and, most unfortunately, they painted the engine red. perhaps they thought it was roses . . . ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 19:28:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B386B44B29 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s7.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s7.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3291644385 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:25:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS10 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s7.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:24:38 -0700 From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:24:43 -0700 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 18:24:43 -0700 FILETIME=[AC09D200:01CE332E] Subject: [TR] windshiedl from Moss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, but I have to... I have had two windshields from off the shelf put into my TR6. One last summer. Fit was perfect. Installed by glass shop in about 20 minutes. I'm not saying things don't get screwed up, but... Does or did the windshield have a manufacturer's part number label on it? Peter Arakelian - '71 TR6, Daily Driver ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 20:57:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37344C8C for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE814044D for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:54:08 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=X-EGFHOpRY4A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=2EHT11OPP-4A:10 a=T-AEFsyNr5biNzieOQcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Bmx43bwYduAVvKq-eikA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=qpPupn5Fami35t6H:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50242] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 31/FE-11341-3AFD0615; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:53:23 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:56:03 -0400 Subject: [TR] location of radiator overflow bottle in TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Can anyone tel me where the radiator overflow bottle bolts on for a TR4A? It's been many years since I removed it and for the life of me, I can't remember where this goes. I have tried to match up the bracket and the closest place I can see is either on the passenger front side radiator mount but the angle of the bracket is off a bit. Thanks, Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a Just got a set of Miata seats! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 21:15:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D344CFA for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:15:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5032644C3F for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:14:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:13:45 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:13:41 -0500 References: To: Dave Connitt Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] location of radiator overflow bottle in TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, The bracket mounts under the right-side foot of the radiator. On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > List, > Can anyone tel me where the radiator overflow bottle bolts on for a TR4A? > It's been many years since I removed it and for the life of me, I can't > remember where this goes. I have tried to match up the bracket and the closest > place I can see is either on the passenger front side radiator mount but the > angle of the bracket is off a bit. > Thanks, > Dave Connitt > '67 TR4A IRS > http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a > > Just got a set of Miata seats! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 06:48:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2A94432A for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 06:48:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C9143995 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 06:47:49 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=k8E4DPN7BIAA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=E7HUa3k6rrsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Hqk9H_ReAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=oLQHDZddcvI-RBhBCPgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=SjPjmvP9_5AA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=EMxVC_BPFZceE-M6:21 a=KOrdt_SXfHSnhQVJ:21 a=pqDIuF9CS79n4zx9dc0A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=LUGdSHaYEaYA:10 a=Fc10riI6Hu5LZEEm:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50052] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id CC/77-07167-5CA61615; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:47:02 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: , "ADRIAN DIX-DYER" References: <40AF1371-714E-4BCF-8FE9-0832A6FAE2CB@genfiniti.com> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:49:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] location of radiator overflow bottle in TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Adrian, I was telling Guy yesturday that I didn't think of "under" the radiator on that bracket.. My oldest grand daughter was about 3 when I bought the car, now she is 15-1/2 and wanting to know when I will have it done :).. Today I hope to finish installing the transmission tunnel. (Wish that was done). Dave Connitt '67 TR4A Cincinnati, Ohio USA ----- Original Message ----- From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: G.D. Huggins Cc: Dave Connitt ; triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [TR] location of radiator overflow bottle in TR4A Yes Guy is quite right the bracket mounts on the drivers side of the radiator in UK passenger side in US. Adrian TR4A CT64396 O Wales UK. On 7 April 2013 04:13, G.D. Huggins wrote: Dave, The bracket mounts under the right-side foot of the radiator. On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > List, > Can anyone tel me where the radiator overflow bottle bolts on for a TR4A? > It's been many years since I removed it and for the life of me, I can't > remember where this goes. I have tried to match up the bracket and the closest > place I can see is either on the passenger front side radiator mount but the > angle of the bracket is off a bit. > Thanks, > Dave Connitt > '67 TR4A IRS > http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a > > Just got a set of Miata seats! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 07:38:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4544D9C for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB810447B4 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:38:46 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=PnWrl0rQdBkA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=rWhN1FKIcNMA:10 a=ejsxg3FPSII3GnaFzgYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=iGKm9_UxpBmCyINf:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50768] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id E3/83-07167-7B671615; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 09:38:00 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 09:40:40 -0400 Subject: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I have another routing question. Last night when I was getting things ready to mount the transmission tunnel, I noticed the speedometer drive fitting on the transmission and thought it would be smart to run that cable before I installed the transmission tunnel. Can anyone help me with that? I am thinking it comes up the inside of the tunnel and then double backs into one of the holes in the firewall. Also, looking at the firewall, driver side from the engine compartment I have three holes that are about 3/4-1 inch in diameter. I think the windshield wiper wires go in the right hand one, tach cable in the center one and the speedometer cable in the left? Is that correct? Thanks, Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 08:18:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404244EE1 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26944ED9 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:17:37 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=kGeqBfKLlk4A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=rFncw0BV9QEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=mgSbTIV3emFMMFHEQ2YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LUGdSHaYEaYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=oOTqdXxoDDffX7yrlqEA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=VYs6ETwAUhoNkY3y:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50962] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id DC/6A-07167-2DF71615; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 10:16:51 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: , "Geo Hahn" References: <27E422DF4B774A51A441DF20CCE1D2BA@DaveLaptop> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 10:19:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks George.. George Hahn brought up a good point.. I don't have a overdrive. Dave Connitt ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Dave - You probably want to mention if you have an overdrive gearbox and if you do, whether or not you are using an angle drive (short cable) or no angle drive (long cable). Geo On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Dave Connitt wrote: List, I have another routing question. Last night when I was getting things ready to mount the transmission tunnel, I noticed the speedometer drive fitting on the transmission and thought it would be smart to run that cable before I installed the transmission tunnel. Can anyone help me with that? I am thinking it comes up the inside of the tunnel and then double backs into one of the holes in the firewall. Also, looking at the firewall, driver side from the engine compartment I have three holes that are about 3/4-1 inch in diameter. I think the windshield wiper wires go in the right hand one, tach cable in the center one and the speedometer cable in the left? Is that correct? Thanks, Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 11:21:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E60645090 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8424944FA9 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKW0030EASY1JP0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 12:19:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: References: <54A7DF523F3C40FA8EE78594C02375C1@Datsun> <484766113.600108.1365283545418.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:19:44 -0400 Thread-index: AQLdz+ajG1kmfAkF9By2REXebHIV8JarxJJw Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not from a 3B but a very late 3A... Markings as original: http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/TS81802LO/00-EngineMarkings. jpg.html I masked off the lettering when I painted the engine and then repainted them trying somewhat successfully to match the brush strokes. http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/TS81802LO/05-EngineRe-marked .jpg.html I have seen one other '3 engine painted red. According to the owner it had a different numbering code that indicated it was factory rebuilt. I can't remember for sure what was different about the engine number. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:26 PM To: Dave Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] tr3b You do have an appreciably better car to start from than the usual, it seems. Question to the list: Weren't the original engines painted black with, I forget, some kind of number 3 or something painted in a different color underneath? Anyway, does the color of the engine paint suggest it's been rebuilt at one point? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire...Where I drove twice to work and back, and on the way home Friday, the top was down! Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 11:36:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319D5450E5 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4BF45077 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKW00KH0BIIP921@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 12:35:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: , "'Geo Hahn'" References: <27E422DF4B774A51A441DF20CCE1D2BA@DaveLaptop> <753701BF862649FBA3800116E5091553@DaveLaptop> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:35:04 -0400 Thread-index: AQGY0RZPLUGMQtgKn7+yjABrUSXPYAG8U79kAkflKQaZFaZsMIAAAcwA Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Duh = tr4a not tr3... but I believe they are very similar. Tach & temp gauge low - speedo up near brake cylinders. C -----Original Message----- From: Carl TR [mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 1:33 PM To: 'Dave Connitt'; 'triumphs@autox.team.net'; 'Geo Hahn' Subject: RE: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Offering kudos to one of our own.... TeriAnn Wakeman has a diagram of the bulkhead(firewall) holes http://www.tr3a.info/Bulkhead.htm (You have been quiet TeriAnn... out taking photos of the beautiful mountains?) Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Connitt Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:20 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; Geo Hahn Subject: Re: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Thanks George.. George Hahn brought up a good point.. I don't have a overdrive. Dave Connitt ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Connitt Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Dave - You probably want to mention if you have an overdrive gearbox and if you do, whether or not you are using an angle drive (short cable) or no angle drive (long cable). Geo On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Dave Connitt wrote: List, I have another routing question. Last night when I was getting things ready to mount the transmission tunnel, I noticed the speedometer drive fitting on the transmission and thought it would be smart to run that cable before I installed the transmission tunnel. Can anyone help me with that? I am thinking it comes up the inside of the tunnel and then double backs into one of the holes in the firewall. Also, looking at the firewall, driver side from the engine compartment I have three holes that are about 3/4-1 inch in diameter. I think the windshield wiper wires go in the right hand one, tach cable in the center one and the speedometer cable in the left? Is that correct? Thanks, Dave Connitt '67 TR4A IRS http://home.fuse.net/davestr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 12:17:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419794526C for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6D94515E for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c7f8f.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.127.143]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MKW00ER8DG6N500@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:16:50 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4zvBLQ7or5BJXeRGyK4EPi91e9vg== Cc: peterara@msn.com Subject: [TR] Windshield from Moss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Peter Arakelian" wrote: >snip >Does or did the windshield have a manufacturer's part number label on it? Peter - I don't know - I delivered the windshield in the box to the Restoration shop. They started to install it and then noted that it would not fit. They took pictures of the old windshield laid over the new one to send to Moss and the difference was obvious. Moss even said they did NOT want it back - they are sending another. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 12:28:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9134528F for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:28:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEC845252 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170015pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MKW00FCGDRVSFB0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:23:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.255.241.109 ([96.255.241.109]) by vms170015 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:23:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:23:55 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: peterara@msn.com Subject: Re: [TR] Windshield from Moss Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If it make you feel any better, I purchased an original XXX from NOS liquidators for installation in my 1972 TR6, it was broken in the process of the install and had to buy one from Moss. If it was me, I would buy from TRF. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 Vienna, VA On 04/07/13, Dennis Culligan wrote: "Peter Arakelian" wrote: >snip >Does or did the windshield have a manufacturer's part number label on it? Peter - I don't know - I delivered the windshield in the box to the Restoration shop. They started to install it and then noted that it would not fit. They took pictures of the old windshield laid over the new one to send to Moss and the difference was obvious. Moss even said they did NOT want it back - they are sending another. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 12:59:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7A04536A for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1545299 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:58:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 72F3B380000F4 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mue004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mue004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.197.205]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4E1B5E000085 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:58:02 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: davgil@aol.com Received: from 67.141.243.97 by webmail-m139.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.26) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:58:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:58:02 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365361082; bh=0AGqgHSkfgLW+4FcykFClZFPyMfJLvkN7MvmoB59oz0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T7U6cHbLcEGenUiDt681sgBScWuoVTi3964+PQpQO+A4dVO6yKCdxvPdoessAJ2y9 Aze2e54tIVL/HlX/ostvEIfsgMbxLuIQMHs2MJIN1uVhfndlviP4Af5IBt90yuUzE7 oxSaIaUKNRfnVY9BVP7Wsd3AgkvjItILf89kAZXg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85161c1ba35fb Subject: [TR] List structure Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am a digest member who has been a list lurker and very occasional poster for approximately 15 years. I can say that I would not change the format. I read the list posts for the same reason that I occasionally stroll through home centers. I like to find solutions to problems that I don't yet have. Forums just don't give that same broad view of Triumph ownership. Just my $.02. David Gill 1976 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 19:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC1545962 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81B9458F9 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:49:45 -0600 (MDT) cv=GLqYwptGXHjY6tPk5kWRtHXJM/YfZPTWiIs1znw4zms= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=eBX+wxaJKp5uaOL40NPQLQ==:17 a=Wpix_l9RDgX_wFOA38QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=2XszH81s-ZUA:10 a=Q7DfHhvTr4Xqo_HVb20A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO OwnerHP) ([68.144.199.245]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with SMTP; 07 Apr 2013 19:47:58 -0600 From: "Mike Coe" To: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 19:49:00 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For sale. 1967 TR4A. British Racing Green. Pirellibs. AM/FM, New Battery. World Hub Caps. 13,444 miles. All receipts. located in Calgary. This is a really nice model that just requires tlc $16,000 OBO. Mike. 403-281-0363. coefront@shaw.ca ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 20:15:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABAC459D2 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB83644F5E for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE21A0CFE for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 20:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:16:36 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <5FB14126708B43A19EAEC650E12141D9@OwnerHP> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One of these days I'd like to get another 4A, IRS or not. But first I need to get rid of several projects I already have on hand. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 07:30:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44C042B8B for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 07:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B1B429E6 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 07:30:04 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:17 a=Dvz7_ezy4v8A:10 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=nIMSLE6L0fQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_w5btruFxg8Fvabp7uYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yStDZZS2uyqdtWslYxwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=fslGTT3Em0VLzn3M:21 a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 64.121.239.224 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [64.121.239.224] ([64.121.239.224:49384] helo=[192.168.1.131]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id B7/AC-27032-726C2615; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:29:11 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:29:10 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [TR] The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net These are the reasons that I prefer the list too. There's a wealth of information, answers to problems that I have not had yet, that comes to me with little time or effort on my part. A quick scan of the digest, and I save useful info to a simple database for future use. Allen On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > I too like the current streaming style of this list. No need to go > to a > forum, pick a topic, find a thread, etc. Here it all runs along > like a stream > of consciousness. Plus I learn about things I had not thought of, > and have > used things I have followed without needing only to use them later. > Peter > I come at this from a strange perspective: a university professor. > To me that > are two different products from this list: 1) I have problem X, can > someone > tell me how to fix it, and 2) wow, I never thought about X that way. > > To me they are both of valuable, but for the most part, I probably > learn > something weekly from the "I never thought about X that way" and that > sometimes helps me avoid a potential problem before it happens. > > JAW > > John Wise ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 08:12:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ACF43260 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:12:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D753C42CD1 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.101.133]) by p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id MSBK1l00f2shHke01SBLEN; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 07:11:21 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:11:21 -0400 Thread-index: Ac40YvJE0Ki/3W2lTmKgwOmLkbQ7sw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3 negative camber vertical links Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: When I rebuilt my first TR3, I installed negative camber vertical links, available from Moss at the time. The car handled beautifully and I had hoped to do the same with the next candidate. Unfortunately I cannot find any. Does anyone know where I can get a pair? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 08:34:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC79445FF for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:34:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED70442EC for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:34:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.101.133]) by p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id MSZT1l00C2shHke01SZUhj; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 07:33:29 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:33:29 -0400 Thread-index: Ac40Zfb+n/yeDBH4Q3KSjmkK1peEqQ== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] H6 or HS6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I should know this, but does the stamp AUG878F imply H6 or HS6? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 09:00:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6782447DD for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:00:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA87443B3 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 14:59:55 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.108] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 14:59:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 14:59:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365433194; bh=Jtr5U3TGbrokoCFJ1K40ZwPWw8JaeyjOJ5UL8J69Of0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-index:X-MimeOLE; b=GOqU/Wim+QahQrXIoXV4Aa/++JE8WL/EOh85TXUz2PK46mUhcRfyjiquotgRu4rEZMIrx8nDt3suMNuHyfGzjzdzIX7EkFSBnniwNBcZuZGXhFpnZ8eP7uH777j67oi+kTjU7XXokiQ5SM55Jd2zVpl37xChl6DoOCyG7XUvQZA= CgOAb1JcC9zKgrqn3jKsqO37DZDsm8bNMs6m5PDTDUh80mF7kktlFP1o5jW0 kBwQO5XTaRXRG_wCDlqw5ioTPQRllG4LFvhQZNcxXyBaK4Yg_UeFIR0l_97W 4cuprzV24jdG8gye8HeNeciHAO2lZbAAXwXAJBd4aPH36T84gfGLIK519yt0 ZagRg.2PWvbyt9GENIB6wCsLyT_xT3v7w6ZGe3QBNvIuZod90MNoU1hgVHFI B5f_auG33Ls2PKs01fTgSIVrfOZgGeqaMijVBY3HlIQExhuFxtOjcJ2XEy0Y dSW4TFN3QNc9x51Ffmwy.cw1mrUy3h.QfSm_W3NVOveEv2kNdapb8zkHGdbE Eg1bH4m9n9aF0zmA5nPQCzlRAggrsMc9eSaKw0Msn6RMpk1IGwAGh63taY4V oZhHgLEw9JNgRCO9wSxCY4FIKP0.znwdrEBLQA2xkG1M0PlLVBAun6FrvaB1 pQZDFhf7yYCTTUvI3IwpE89Wr8leGt0MJwzuvq4RWzagD4EFCgH.9WH3HK_o wphOWVWlHQKN5FWr1PHfkehm4CQ-- smtp105.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Apr 2013 07:59:54 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <005501ce3466$0ab27860$20176920$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:59:29 -0500 Thread-index: Ac40Zfb+n/yeDBH4Q3KSjmkK1peEqQAA37SQ Subject: Re: [TR] H6 or HS6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That would be the H6, Front Carb, the style used on late TR3A-B & Early TR4 cars. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:33 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] H6 or HS6? I should know this, but does the stamp AUG878F imply H6 or HS6? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 09:35:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBE442BCD for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1A94226E for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 15:33:21 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.116] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 15:33:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 15:33:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365435201; bh=bwOxgrEHnbSOD58D873VUEAc2fa5dQuBpN3lOPHgZPI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-index:X-MimeOLE; b=z0dcHo61WkeewoLTU+kG4CPT/zd7ZoaWkCH74jOcA/YynMUai4WsUUBJZ229ChnPgNDPNKvoQqOcIwp+tfPTxPgtQPqvxnvfMY3I7rDcTakg8nPD2YgjBdf1s7rlytkXIDKPZGFfhq4bddMeZfIhSi379cfk2+Orq8mfRdFtEkE= GVzEejNDlcwNXi85GYNbNA9qlUSX52guYCYmvNKFv1Z0RLd5.ysCTZDU8vb4 qTo6dU5ltGZ.ubceBNZpUjh9cF.84bxS.hoRVYrAa6KQlb.qhhRB7CUep5Ao M87Kderadjt6_vTvcWW6yBkJ6E8wGADyQiqfDRCxT2YDQaA1lawzHELkFvMu mrW3PD1ILUryLpDIhiR6aMuqpg1e0M9wJNGe5dPvX8mCyzby_VzT.R.z1T4P g9ltlHWbiO_RV6WXLV543NiQbxk84lY3dvlnsjUNeo89Qzxp1X4_9F.XpIX0 i3OZZ6KT0N6VUqgZ1vxNPOLLmfF5BCScEi5Phci58JEFUEwb1mAlKAGRutF8 hn5cS1sQqLsC0cfnQHnKG2BIRxzxTR7bQDeyBpxYBXo1bWyz15mg1QcdJRLU DM6yCQHZWNJqLLhSOF1W3nUuRDV81fQ9OoK4pSJ9fSYCd3NPVCH69UlKX1Fu J9UbFY1Kt.byremNVrL2ACmFHuedwGtQVseU- smtp111.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Apr 2013 15:33:21 +0000 UTC From: To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <002901ce3462$f3b2e530$db18af90$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:32:57 -0500 Thread-index: Ac40YvJE0Ki/3W2lTmKgwOmLkbQ7swACMHkg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 negative camber vertical links Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ISTR that using the vertical link from an early TR4 achived this. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:11 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 negative camber vertical links List: When I rebuilt my first TR3, I installed negative camber vertical links, available from Moss at the time. The car handled beautifully and I had hoped to do the same with the next candidate. Unfortunately I cannot find any. Does anyone know where I can get a pair? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 09:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9D244867 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:53:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8685042C21 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ib11so5025108vcb.35 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xGcYvdtBWhj6BJ5X6zyabmYxRZlVCK2hjZyX1JdnMQA=; b=gcut1wA54h2oGVmqxfhzLyROxWs9aUFMmOMLO2I+ha1VXOSG6G+I1WcClnWDot+t1G H5NM5yU9ezBdCivkW3LOR/YlTw+uQZZWJNROUKeV5I4H+lEzloXY2aEL8PGKvGoa8GNZ mC25HZud5M2NRLZCJUtT2MW2buiUj7TSZ/jsbWa7rvtmHnZqdFu/41ZangHrC992eg/T Y+/p0ff+Ifd9GsrwIJM2nPFXXm6SadhqcW5Mn7YPCJIjsZFiS08ZZRHjY2Xrn2C7iV7N +UeMSIHYdKF95y96dtQLywK5R5IV8dCzRbH9qw8djeqs2pOH8I0TKlxqBRvj7C2658OO 0sfQ== jw2mr13831488vdb.69.1365436342085; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.101 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <005501ce3466$0ab27860$20176920$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 08:52:21 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] H6 or HS6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I should know this, but does the stamp AUG878F imply H6 or HS6? And I think that should be AU*C*. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 12:17:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2942BEB for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8401C4295C for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY150-W65 ([65.54.190.200]) by bay0-omc4-s18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Apr 2013 11:16:09 -0700 From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter To: Andrew Uprichard , Triumph List Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:16:09 -0500 References: <002901ce3462$f3b2e530$db18af90$@uprichard.net> FILETIME=[2522DEA0:01CE3485] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 negative camber vertical links Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew- Moss Europe still shows the negative camber links available, pn TT3003. Regards Randy >> > When I rebuilt my first TR3, I installed negative camber vertical links, > available from Moss at the time. The car handled beautifully and I had > hoped to do the same with the next candidate. Unfortunately I cannot find > any. Does anyone know where I can get a pair? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 12:20:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8741644F2B for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from de08ip008.honeywell.com (de08ip008.honeywell.com [199.61.24.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5466242B49 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Received-SPF: Neutral (de08ip008.honeywell.com: domain of davis.heglund@honeywell.com does not assert whether or not 10.216.34.43 is permitted sender) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=10.216.34.43; receiver=de08ip008.honeywell.com; envelope-from="davis.heglund@honeywell.com"; x-sender="davis.heglund@honeywell.com"; x-conformance=spf_only; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None (de08ip008.honeywell.com: no sender authenticity information available from domain of postmaster@de08ex5004.global.ds.honeywell.com) identity=helo; client-ip=10.216.34.43; receiver=de08ip008.honeywell.com; envelope-from="davis.heglund@honeywell.com"; x-sender="postmaster@de08ex5004.global.ds.honeywell.com"; x-conformance=spf_only Received: from unknown (HELO de08ex5004.global.ds.honeywell.com) ([10.216.34.43]) by de08ip008.honeywell.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2013 11:19:27 -0700 Received: from DE08EX3004.global.ds.honeywell.com ([169.254.4.181]) by de08ex5004.global.ds.honeywell.com ([10.216.14.77]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:19:26 -0400 From: "Heglund, Davis (ETS-Elec)" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: re: The Good, the Bad... Thread-Index: Ac40hZjuyzQmVj4BSaijr50DDCboZw== Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 18:19:26 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [146.167.154.173] Subject: Re: [TR] The Good, the Bad... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This may not be a democracy, but, I vote to leave the list as is. Never had any issues opening up links to files I was interested in. I like being able to scan the subject list for interesting topics, then continuing on to the text, or deleting as desired. I don't post very often, but since I donated (a little) to Mark's Guiness fund, felt I could cast a vote with a clear conscience. Dave Heglund '69 GT6 (somewhere in my garage) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 12:35:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B3342CBC for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D15425BF for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7C16F1C000051 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-med003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-med003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.9]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4FE10E000090 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Full-name: Loumetelko Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:33:45 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365446025; bh=e4whqhP7XheUqx7NKTPIA9R0cWynY2IuWH+xU5ZKeNg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wkP0MAhFUDIT8MCTDkoOHDWxtqn2o1dwIblBWfGRo+2GMd1mbwr9ffqzVBN0/bEPA bpt0mj3j0eMorTBm3yPG04CDPS8QcCS+xqhp1U/4AJFwylw9GpnUVQTKejFb1sC7NH PJrVZR0QPdpDAhbYHPFX6GDD1Gl+Qo7h1Zf6Yd/s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e51630d891193 Subject: Re: [TR] H6 or HS6? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I should know this, but does the stamp AUG878F imply H6 or HS6? Thanks! Andrew Uprichard Visually there is much difference between the H6 and the HS6. The H6 was used on all of the side screen cars as well the early versions of the TR4. Later 4s and early 4As had the Stromberg CD-175. With the introduction of the 4A came the longer and slightly curved intake. When Triumph wanted to fit the H6 (at approximately CT or CTC62000) on the 4A, they found that the longer intake resulted in the air cleaner banging against the right inner fender. All that said the visual difference is the length of the distance between the butterfly and the air cleaner. The HS6 was only used on the later 4As with, I guess the S standing for "short" throat. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 14:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6D742ED0 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm36-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301FD4299E for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 20:58:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.195] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 20:58:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 20:58:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 20087 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2013 20:58:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365454716; bh=cbmZpc8wUERfbLRanOJIkaHXL0C6v1PR3OhernIwru8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JnIoEw4k7/DWn3WzkALfPSc2qqQZ+HfHgHIlBO3gL+4tr+ch62Q2MXGh+63SDPsTtk4tznfVFelPPXyhMWs2/52qI4qWl9UX1iWWrJcmwOs/s1LXns9SE9ScLh/HTxOQ60GWIA/Ix6e4p/8sHYMrbsQ87MSFNFjjeRumFom2FOI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v3E+DmPM7TtBAh1MSf4CrvA2bXooGJc+K9GIo3AvKPVuy9ixB/eYjInePUjunJhbyFNhRcGNflpxzaTRriN4WBVmOeOEG4l4XmKaCHjJygHtd5rvhu159fsMCvs94/3QakYJCRlAuuHqB7LQFLZIMoAIgIezvOZzbgoWpJhjuWw=; W0YJU0vdtPmVIGxxP7GGFzdM0bQMPPt1qp0AYl40izAy.PCJHOwbcVXtSzTW pgj2lYi4UyWsShpXMTqWXwGngB6Ztn6NN.SPeOCXBckkLhgkQdxgocFRQ_RE WvoauYTUuUqtTncqAukkPTxeF7MqM1T50Kh2oaXm3u1AMh8WX3Z6VEjRS.gm 9JEBdAdSKc17gxyewiDAAOEQVlJS2wxG1o2nhyIrBZzm7lKeuIZxkym0lbNV bOwG0bR3Wkk530eDOOJM2hsyy3dQ8BQ6enNmweezBxjJfNa.4AkigZ7v35Iu 1PTCOuLMKcZPnOyyXxGrjOYh7sB4Q4X.AsozIPqa6bFBGAd3.Bx86fzV3aHZ gQr3JYowsdVXJ2EEImJ5qBnCRq6099t8jgsnrx6pEE6fbbgRLFnodpq2xnFK xI5ZLhe.Ls11OCV6YjsU3BOyxHEPdq3eeXDdBUcEDwHAwy1AFhH5i Received: from [72.45.201.74] by web160104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:58:36 PDT SGkgTGlzdCEKV2VsbCBJIHRob3VnaHQgdGhhdCBpIHdhcyByZWFkaW5nIHRoZSBsYXRlc3QgVFIgRGlnZXN0LCBidXQgdGhlbiBJIGp1c3QgcmVjZWl2ZSAjMTE4LiBJIHNlZSB0aGF0IHRoaXMgdG9waWMgaXMgbm90IG9uIHRoYXQgb25lLiBTbyBzb21laG93IEkgZGlkbid0IGdldCAjMTE3ICYgSSBjaGVja2VkIHRoZSBTcGFtIGZvbGRlci4gSSBoYXZlIG5vIGlkZWEgaG93IHRoYXQgaGFwcGVuZWQuCsKgCkFueXdheXMsIEkga25vdyBpdCdzIGxhdGUgdG8gcHV0IHRoaXMgaW4sIGJ1dCBJIGRvIGFncmVlIHcBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Subject: The good, the bad, the ?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! Well I thought that i was reading the latest TR Digest, but then I just receive #118. I see that this topic is not on that one. So somehow I didn't get #117 & I checked the Spam folder. I have no idea how that happened. Anyways, I know it's late to put this in, but I do agree with the list vs form style. I, like Peter, do feel that the threads FLOW. I'm glad you pointed that out, because that explains why I don't check out the 'British Form'. There isn't that 'Family' touch of togetherness. I do agree that's wise for mark NOT to change the format. Keep it as it is. I find it much more enjoyable to read this style, because you can look & Do NOT have to participate. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 15:17:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E7D42F0B for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD8E42DCF for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 21:16:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 21:16:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 21:16:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18868 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2013 21:16:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365455774; bh=a5IXWS1GnDycBS7K6eSNu/Awy5RqHaUIyNo5BrEBY8o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=baNBwCvAapIHu2B5p2KyQzxl3NPY9RH9Fugy3uVUCGVzHA12+h2Pc9BfmbErQrdw8lPQ7W2yh9hog5bgABYmNGdPONIHNgGlb4OMWgdd20bG7JG4EepTPHi7RCf0WYPSElrrElUKQr6tOv+CuXgXIk0fJdXuTMs+P8RMDFrDYAQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v5ttFZIN4WfMGt9M5wYiEwzcF7nFWITWh2EMK4mZL9H/wkT96/tA4fFjP1EqUnyYQOt413QXknsxWk7xUzCBeIMpkEFAx0GDBjGJtxddcbb+cjcRd5JZiGOSUKayL087qR1FsCRc87hxx5eaUFkk/0Hcp8JUy8H9uDOvxbMgNsE=; 4kK2C.LwYUYBplLd_BXtCz5EnhGMvrr8j._rSh7PDqQzp8iYN31K6QAQCx7P TnRErq9t4dA61Kri8.r55_aYee65YdrDgMSbMQToC6HpHcrt5ZxLrW7sKQfV PHAfslbnXcxvJKiTnV2v3E2XKGVIPCUTmZn8ETaSiguCm..W.oZE0dQM9VxZ 9tFUF8QC5hS_anq8Z8WQ_huSDfeNFQvpUUfRcurD2OV0gCeSF86YNyFNeo8B 03vYJq_rEkfO5NoYqt1Bhxd3CA2Dt4aBPtsF9xO6GL8OrfX1OrnM8U_2pBg8 MngM9LKpnNqESIewqbehyblpuo8xDzkkwtpHA1fLg1uxGrlYDqFOrPVOhBaD IK194Zamw1zfF4hMoS8GbjyQpXkwyxF5B1eOk5aIDPoA.FzvBa7qGfc8tYnu GEs08LwY2d6WqPalV1E_dOywhYslzly27SOrQtwR3JOfssmOr07vPEw-- Received: from [72.45.201.74] by web160106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:16:14 PDT SGkgTGlzdCEKV2VsbCwgYXMgSSByZW1lbWJlciBpdCwgdGhlIE9EIHRyYW5ueSBoYXMgdGhlIGNhYmxlIGdvIGRvd24gdGhlIGJ1bGtoZWFkIHRvIGNyb3NzIG92ZXIgdGhlIHRyYW5ueSwgZG93biBhbG9uZyB0aGUgcmlnaHQgc2lkZSBvZiB0aGUgdHJhbm55ICYgSW50byB0aGUgYW5nbGUgZHJpdmUuCsKgClRoZSBObyBPRCBnb2VzIGRvd24gdGhlIGJ1bGtoZWFkIDcgYWxvbmcgdGhlIGxlZnQgc2lkZSBvZiB0aGUgdHJhbm55LCB0aGVuIGNyb3NzZXMgVU5ERVIgdGhlIHRyYW5ueSAoaW4gZnJvbnQgb2YgdGgBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Subject: Routing path for Speedo cable on TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! Well, as I remember it, the OD tranny has the cable go down the bulkhead to cross over the tranny, down along the right side of the tranny & Into the angle drive. The No OD goes down the bulkhead 7 along the left side of the tranny, then crosses UNDER the tranny (in front of the tranny mount) & into the tranny (NO Angle Drive). If I'm wrong, I'm sorry, & I know this list well enough that they will feel FREE to E-mail me to tell me the "Right Way"! -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 16:08:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA2142FC7 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:08:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm22.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3231042F19 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 22:07:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.50] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 22:07:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2013 22:07:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365458822; bh=Btac2Ct+ihuTi4+ZygG4WeOHEyXF/1tySqYtH4Uhsn0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=jMkcQLgdyZpVkwamkZ3rbzQZpgBuN+j2VLHZEWLH9s6MT1TeRmZjJUUCxEddyk5kmeJa5GhPgEnNcU+vFJg2D+ZOky1CRDNIYUNfPL9Fj0TV5yxThs1q5LMdd9r3aZhwWbVOUOtUaMskqus8TGulXzklj8hjoW4LVjp9Wn1NA18= LipFEebK_qqcAfLWly3dKi1Fh.QvhSnhtKBmrxKFQpvoagU7PCbmKAQcSVnY V21TPY.WC16g8cHksFHbXGY6_xyLmgvac.kz5TA19T7T8IE4XcglBnuqRPwq VS5VYObEC0OsAJPlpv8U8s7.l9bXW79WYCDK9byIFl235Tt5sA7R5OB4iweF bW0dOHKXLMPLfI9JHWDMSxdBbRXFQyRtpuywd1gQajNiRSQpp_3xojjqNWES SNwJP4xmhQdCSo7dpBIWcehWcJbjaJQo2OqDVcC4IqIcBmnlrMyKMhq6SB31 apJ2KwHrABdFsHkkmcKOG7vib_XPXHFap3AR3NcqZOp_.Wnb0dqUtuesxmnp nbNY0aeX5jM.IEen07Jed.zzctTP_3e2x_TTUJYGlVzsSEPV2Yi6Wg1FQVDs Amy.RWRycJpzd_k2TKQ-- smtp112.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Apr 2013 15:07:02 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 17:07:01 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac40pWR9vcWdbuSGRdeOmdsvtESOew== Subject: [TR] 60's icon passes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Along with our iconic LBCs of the 50s & 60s were the countless "Beach....." movies with Frankie & Annette. Just read that she passed away today. Never saw her in a TR, but who cares. BB ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 16:28:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65E44FD4 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:28:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B1342FC3 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:28:21 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=CZhAJbgv3ykA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=a8uOm1TkKPYA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=9b2qyKz0GrWps0QvROsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:59215] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2B/C4-06772-F4443615; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:27:28 +0000 Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:27:28 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <541CAA9EFC8949F0ADAE43768F22AA8F@bboffice> Subject: Re: [TR] 60's icon passes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, And believe it or not she was born in Utica, NY, about 3 miles from my home when I was growing up. I dont think she stayed in CNY long though. Bob On 04/08/2013 06:07 PM, wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Along with our iconic LBCs of the 50s & 60s were the countless "Beach....." > movies with Frankie & Annette. Just read that she passed away today. > > Never saw her in a TR, but who cares. > > BB ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 20:31:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD410431F1 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com [67.231.145.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927104314E for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 20:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0030016 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id r392UauQ021977 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 22:30:36 -0400 Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1bm7mv85uq-1 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:30:36 -0400 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43eb94dd) id dm0206.515dc7eb.768dd3 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 19:30:36 -0700 From: Robert Jones Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:30:34 -0500 To: triumphs@autox.team.net engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-09_01:2013-04-09,2013-04-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1211240000 definitions=main-1304080310 Subject: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net HI I have two bellows type thermostats, one that opens at 160 degrees f and one that opens at 179 degrees. Any suggestions as to which one I use. The car is in Florida and has a TR3 engine with alloy radiator. Thanks ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 21:16:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F9B4349A for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:16:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BB24306B for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:12:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa09-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id MfBu1l00J53lu5001fBvXZ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:11:56 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 22:06:26 -0500 Subject: [TR] cockpit covers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net hi. I remember at some point someone was selling a cockpit cover that completely covered the windshield, top, and sidecurtains. does anyone have a link to this site? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 04:35:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1FF429D8 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 04:35:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B931429CB for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 04:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c10so4806578wiw.4 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 03:33:58 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=ENKrzqALM6E9qz1JGYnMM5jy+KGma1q10E6qOi68VcU=; b=UOnz9mMFxYHLCR4aC0bS76nfn0VrQ3ufDjx/QzIdkejUHpKTUKPg3PwhGHiL37eaAo AphXZDUKWy5qCU+3nAWqwyJBTyxNpMpOge4BpMgiC3nl4wMdIB1Bel4CcOq4ippUM1G3 UUnhTV6AkItCOK/YJjcgmPlkx88gtTIxdAIP29L8YEXPh+BMTK8AJSW3hJZ1BaPRDO/v enwyX57vMPFGIdl+E0fxggFo4bMOQdrSUqdLJucQ5kKZZPcyK8uc6iLcd694IKLN5lnC FsWsGwTSLV8cooiWe3yjR8KBIAHEfp1V0D6cNH+HBW+OC2DbVXKhSvk6+kG36pF1pDEc 8GLw== b7mr18866041wie.15.1365503638640; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 03:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-1.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id du2sm24927917wib.0.2013.04.09.03.33.55 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Apr 2013 03:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.31.21.143]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:33:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dixie4" To: "Robert Jones" , References: <71B38EAA-887B-4BC9-BD26-C2AFD3146263@wfeca.net> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:35:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As I recall the recommended temp range for most cars of 50/60s era and later would be 180 so 179 would seem right. Sometimes a different temp would be recommended for winter and summer same as oil viscosity. Not exactly sure of the temp recommendation for the TR3. The lower rated of the two you have is the type that would probably be originally fitted to diesel engine cars and trucks where the requirement is for the stat to open earlier owing to the extra heat generated by much higher compression pressures. Also it is a possible short term fix if a petrol powered car overheats easily. The right opening temp improves running efficiency and economy. Ideally the TR engine requires a skirted thermostat to restrict the flow though the bypass. On a final personal note engine rebuilds are expensive and bellows type thermostats were and are notorious for failure so I would not like to risk it. Junk the bellows type as it must have been manufactured 40+ years ago and fit a 'Waxstat' type with a suitably modded skirt. Many ideas of how to do this have been discussed on the 'List' over the years. Adrian TR4A CT64306 O Wales UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jones" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:30 AM Subject: [TR] Thermostats > HI > > I have two bellows type thermostats, one that opens at 160 degrees f and > one > that opens at 179 degrees. Any suggestions as to which one I use. The > car is > in Florida and has a TR3 engine with alloy radiator. > > Thanks > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6231 - Release Date: 04/07/13 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 06:45:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F2E42A39 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 06:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFB2429ED for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 06:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DellLaptop (c-98-208-239-81.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [98.208.239.81]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M9qqm-1UIyJx30si-00B27o; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:43:12 -0400 From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Dave" , References: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:50:48 -0400 aX5oS1L8gSDJ8ELtV13NRR2EOh4DR9xYM47MRHJx4X+CIPLwBY 7qxAE8s4XqMrF0bRpELtoPUiNk4cZT5O2KIdFu5EI7OnMViYgb pcYwdw9wH1RYHu51y2jSlNiat8vLo/ROWxFx4ndFAfOzqUFHR7 L7XPeYbZEZhcOP9z5cfad2qbcPPx0Jd+QHBwavcIuAyoyI/5nW 80ZRCCREJmGmv5I3cGQGQqjTJYPPO9Q+4pAeCXOOtndxU0dTsd U54soEuNQ+/pRgjC3STh7zwv7LV+u0bx3rJJiZc9Ch4QyxDirr E+cuWhictuocHDTmFs7x/yl2OjVpKavQUvvUXuBFCdQJ1EYGzU 5m70jp63aQvZQ== Subject: Re: [TR] cockpit covers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Moss is were I got mine http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29544&SortOrder=10 www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 11:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] cockpit covers hi. I remember at some point someone was selling a cockpit cover that completely covered the windshield, top, and sidecurtains. does anyone have a link to this site? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 06:56:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEFA428ED for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 06:56:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BAE42563 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 06:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q11so3782585pdj.39 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JVAkKrZP3CltFFSfz3jf03un3gAQu5kLmzuNLjGYnMw=; b=jj6UMJcjV8bl1ohZhZph9UdOYHg+1jgtCfEs/USgSi0KB772GQbcbq31iv2/tk9xoT 3LKiOt0J05hon8vvWmdTS8Bp+7tErvzedcdoClakyRpOvJeN7yS//iUuaY34116txNKw 7dXfFQQe3zvKVaf18jB2tWckp4a0MPpC6UZwiAELSb6cD6Qcy7s6gl6FjfEKLeiPWP5K QVDeoE/zTs4RndG6eDeb7sShCsRNQNSHIzpl7CG6K4ym8ESeJ9FIzaUI2oNIWn4KYwqB 4+AzJLb4ZHPrQ6J9felwjxF35Tj9IYcJb94Vvg+znS+7eYaFVnzosGD5AbVAQlsWW/Lw M9UQ== by9mr43293509pac.191.1365512113904; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 05:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-47-34.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.47.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mt13sm2132278pbc.15.2013.04.09.05.55.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Apr 2013 05:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 05:55:08 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <71B38EAA-887B-4BC9-BD26-C2AFD3146263@wfeca.net> <0D429316948A4B6CAF719E9B79ACCF84@AdrianPC> Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/9/13 3:35 AM, Dixie4 wrote: > On a final personal note engine rebuilds are expensive and bellows > type thermostats were and are notorious for failure so I would not > like to risk it. Junk the bellows type as it must have been > manufactured 40+ years ago Really? I had not heard of that nor experienced it. Both my cars came with bellows type thermostats. I have had the Land Rover for 35 years as of last March and the TR3 since 1986 and have yet to experience a thermostat failure. I hope metal parts do not go bad sitting on a shelf in a protected environment as I have a lot of NLA spares for my cars sitting on shelves, including at least 5 new Smiths thermostats. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 07:00:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAC842840 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:00:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0E840EA3 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.246]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2013 12:59:47 +0000 Received: from EasyEd (74-46-211-48.dsl1.chtw.wv.frontiernet.net [74.46.211.48]) by relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4D19E9410A; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:59:47 +0000 (UTC) From: "Ed Oot" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , References: <541CAA9EFC8949F0ADAE43768F22AA8F@bboffice> <51634450.8020709@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:59:45 -0400 Thread-Index: AQKrI1cDx+dI92d6bQVUrSu5PvkKvQJONIgllwGLIiA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] 60's icon passes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Having grown up near Utica I also felt that connection, along with having a heck of a crush on her when watching the MM Club. It' sad to see the video of what MS did to her, but she never lost her inner beauty. Ed -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:27 PM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] 60's icon passes Yeah, And believe it or not she was born in Utica, NY, about 3 miles from my home when I was growing up. I dont think she stayed in CNY long though. Bob On 04/08/2013 06:07 PM, wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Along with our iconic LBCs of the 50s & 60s were the countless "Beach....." > movies with Frankie & Annette. Just read that she passed away today. > > Never saw her in a TR, but who cares. > > BB ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/eoot@citlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 08:39:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9F2450C6 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599D1434C0 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:39:06 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=V9latSD0IlsA:10 a=4W1r-26cKxaS96VkoowA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 33/7D-11869-1D724615; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:38:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Robert Jones'" , Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 07:38:10 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac40ylS85SFP9gS8TBGRW9IVq1vWfwAZN2RQ Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I have two bellows type thermostats, one that opens at 160 > degrees f and one that opens at 179 degrees. Any suggestions > as to which one I use. The car is in Florida and has a TR3 > engine with alloy radiator. If I was going to use a bellows thermostat in FL, I would definitely go with the 160F (as original). The bellows move relatively slow (compared to the later wax capsule type), so they won't be fully open until a substantially higher temperature. According to the Bentley, the early bellows-type thermostat started to open at 70C (158F) and wasn't fully open until 92C (197F). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 09:06:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF5D45212 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E043997 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:05:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Mr4g1l00853lu5001r4gcd; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:04:41 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:04:47 -0500 Subject: [TR] car cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net any recommendations for an inside only tr3 car cover? just like to keep it protected a little in the garage ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 10:29:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786E04526B for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D469448C3 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hj8so3873660wib.2 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-proxyuser-ip:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=AHlcmJQTuGCk8da9PtQ5FyMwNnmo2E5rok6WC+zUUsg=; b=awj9mE+tisjSsQWv0A+xqRtQMyVJ3OgUJkutGA0RuyvZeOmEp+rq4SlFAOXyAUDEQi d2tTI1ZuAEyBZVKafhAJkunF6pi340EYiesE7F+Mv7W/7HsQzc9nlmYJcrNErbx37NxZ 1fOR0xYbzfCd+PMW7WEthGKV8pv4jreY8euZCKYVI1yRshefyoyC3tBFyNUsGPQJOQ5p e44EwQUNBeotoepnksrkm3N3V507FFbnAVuUFIYytEbuqY4bs/vm0nEJNz0WKVpNZ6Bw Jz1h6CTlbIkdOg+pStRLvzpWE5u7McCyyk+rsHEw7WL0L0DC7l+IuKy5Jy3eKjHQJ68C 5lBg== mb8mr39493739wjb.24.1365524909258; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (know-mailgateway-3.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id er1sm26759648wib.5.2013.04.09.09.28.26 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Apr 2013 09:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([86.31.21.143]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:28:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "Dixie4" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" , References: <71B38EAA-887B-4BC9-BD26-C2AFD3146263@wfeca.net><0D429316948A4B6CAF719E9B79ACCF84@AdrianPC> <51640FAC.4010908@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:30:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I did say it was on a personal note as I have never had much luck with the bellows variety, almost every car I bought in my younger days had a faulty one. It does make you think why there was an almost universal change to wax type thermostats in the sixties. Could be cheaper to manufacture or just new improved. I do not know the answer. Randall has pointed out that the bellows type open slower so this may be a factor to take into account. As an aside I do not remember seeing a production skirted wax type thermostat. I am sure someone will tell me if I am mistaken. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats > On 4/9/13 3:35 AM, Dixie4 wrote: >> On a final personal note engine rebuilds are expensive and bellows type >> thermostats were and are notorious for failure so I would not like to >> risk it. Junk the bellows type as it must have been manufactured 40+ >> years ago > Really? I had not heard of that nor experienced it. Both my cars came > with bellows type thermostats. I have had the Land Rover for 35 years as > of last March and the TR3 since 1986 and have yet to experience a > thermostat failure. > > I hope metal parts do not go bad sitting on a shelf in a protected > environment as I have a lot of NLA spares for my cars sitting on shelves, > including at least 5 new Smiths thermostats. > > TeriAnn > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6233 - Release Date: 04/08/13 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 12:43:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DB344421 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:43:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DCB5340534 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.175] by nm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 18:42:01 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.203] by tm14.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 18:42:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 18:42:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365532921; bh=0IL9bumFtqarWIGC8N8SMRykNIjyvFBEpRz0Y247L0s=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=gzAW9OO7BB35wxlaKg4rYc+XABcHUdAYmCIk1nW/04gqT6JK1w07lMAsLQdMShgkE1MTIHA9crsg0Ab8p1ouoMaAx4DMqd3JCQ2tPiIBdc/u3fZ2YAYp9BabzJZtr6eAzzqZRtrub0yOT4Ot2CqaH3lDFVXcFDTonioLo00GEZ8= 6K3ggpu8fvW281K0pz.Lr20qm8rjVJF.0.JR9236vsYCVNOqtBNN1vPtaC9E NZ3YAerA3tpexgSix0zWt19u4aTCG04.yB3TjRpWqR_uZOLlaY9Z3tOK6ziY NZTOyg5Ib5UWa3bB6rx7f7_KlM6TuN5gnZNSnqJJJnF2nSERet8CjZ4e7ueu lijwHhj_053neOp2vrUcRj8t5oSB8EKMCfsybCOcyQtz.7qleM7W0Xin_dsF EvzrJivlqXb.pCHQJaz2F8tZGXgwBwdzx28U5CYcbEJxSpq67AN7JRmTzNry RSA95bLeTBdJoW9V30lYUkLksrwvj8RtWbwKPsCeSz7JiQWOjajTt7S.2Jel vFpofloUIZhaSKzVw.AyeYicBniCjKmnGxO2U7wcSlVTLIUQtkyPgUQ4Dx.S scKs5pIuS7lDmfDyqWk8lXA-- plain) by smtp214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Apr 2013 11:42:01 -0700 PDT From: WBEECH Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:41:57 -0500 To: "" Subject: [TR] Empty trailer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know this is a long shot but is anyone coming through San Antonio with an empty trailer headed toward Fort Worth? Thx, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 13:31:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23E7444DB for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B5944299 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c10so5403202wiw.2 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dPGlMOiDb+gEzuVxTIH/x6pFr++GYibnNb/7nTYhyko=; b=kiqj9mM4DjhmQVNBqbCVbH9mvrgjX94PFY3C12vqN4Ydidc1GESFJWCLaxM1b8y+Xs roKPD5F3UoNW3uD+iVOhHtKbDw/w3vZ48fBOrl8q++bFeXA7an8Wj+/b3c/eVspPOEE1 08//Aji8YOQhApY0+muoa7yVq2M5tdJ2zZ2QcS/jSi45olTrUk1qi2oU2plfEfoLp2Ut alDEg0BBOQn+nvKJ3a6qoYNdetOPCZN4hO7dCRNy/DO9pUt/kCaDgOGmmZXH+zWYbMwq PNNL26EIW59iB1bzIitOzD7wFLoKqAZE+ArJ6z9u3cgZnrtagF2VQzEt+fj1r/sC/17N Iovw== lu7mr6094402wjb.34.1365535809520; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.138 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT) References: <6E7AE38417834F80988CEB4E0243967A@DellLaptop> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:30:09 -0400 From: Brad Kahler To: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] cockpit covers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oh well, would have been nice if it was water proof. Tonneaus are pretty good for rain but something similar to what Moss sells that is water proof would be the cat's meow :) Brad On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org > wrote: > Brad... they are not waterproof....more like water resistant..... water > will pool on them but eventually it will soak through. > > Bob > > www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org > 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: > Throttle Body Injection > Toyota 5 Speed > Nissan Diff > CVJs > And more.... > > *From:* Brad Kahler > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:49 PM > *To:* Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> > *Cc:* Dave ; Triumphs > *Subject:* Re: [TR] cockpit covers > > Bob, > > Are these covers water proof? In other words will they work in the place > of a tonneau cover when it comes to rain/moisture? > > There was no mention of moisture in their description. > > Brad > > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Bob Danielson < > 75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> wrote: > >> Moss is were I got mine >> >> http://www.mossmotors.com/**Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?** >> PlateIndexID=29544&SortOrder=**10 >> >> >> www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org >> 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: >> Throttle Body Injection >> Toyota 5 Speed >> Nissan Diff >> CVJs >> And more.... >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Dave >> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 11:06 PM >> To: triumphs@autox.team.net >> Subject: [TR] cockpit covers >> >> hi. I remember at some point someone was selling a cockpit cover that >> completely covered the windshield, top, and sidecurtains. >> >> does anyone have a link to this site? >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.**danielsonfamily.org >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/bkahler1@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 14:53:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE4A455B2 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49A442C5F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E75B51C0001C3 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbe002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.70]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3FBAAE000089 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 99.153.217.130 by webmail-d190.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.94) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:52:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:52:09 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365540729; bh=jn3tPiNofDLGl5h9poq+Ck1o8nGyG0zKzGbgpOlNGCQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QSBmLUfMiFaaDH5X1Rwniizn859rWNWUXMHheepw75JO+Y3AHq9YgwwaIr9vxo63L ld4DDWeOt0jrHLlMQC9+eQ0WabILAcc/Aw+X/aKETyhH2sYyRajKUk77va7N5WQcHG cXNFnHejeLVft74yFvuxyOBd3uEQeXAVuBpqZ0EM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d51647f794b93 Subject: Re: [TR] modern skirted 'stats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Adrian, Yes, the benefit of older Triumphs having something in common with older Jaguars - someone with Jags in mind had bright idea of taking the very well made all brass Robert Shaw pellet thermostats and having tooling developed to stamp and turn, a heavy brass sleeve and then have sleeve soldered onto the stock Robert Shaw thermostats. The sleeve action is opposite direction, but ends up blocking by-pass just like the original bellows sleeved SMITHS thermostat does inside my TR4 housing. I did a side-by-side stove-top test with this new fangled one and an original SMITHS bellows/sleaved thermostat - effectively the same result. I bought mine from http://www.xks.com in the US for $35 about 15 years ago.. Then Moss picked them up about 5-10 years ago and sold them for about $45 I recall.. hmm.. now I see they're listing one in recent catalogue (not sure if same or a bellows type one) for $109.95! Regards, Carl '63 TR4 since '74 I did say it was on a personal note as I have never had much luck with the bellows variety, almost every car I bought in my younger days had a faulty one. It does make you think why there was an almost universal change to wax type thermostats in the sixties. Could be cheaper to manufacture or just new improved. I do not know the answer. Randall has pointed out that the bellows type open slower so this may be a factor to take into account. As an aside I do not remember seeing a production skirted wax type thermostat. I am sure someone will tell me if I am mistaken. Adrian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 15:02:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A7345647 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E539403A6 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 21:01:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.60] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 21:01:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp211.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2013 21:01:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365541291; bh=K0E/X1QtzMCwzmdpX8IexwORKW1v0o6Wro/7D+SUGJw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=CTsOTE2dRuvPpBXo/s3vBEPH/yXw5qJ7AKEd/wehBwHiWmjfRpwNsgfC8tp7isY7mFlC0AUSBfzvMkVH0GQ1ghp3qEqMloShBxoc7+PY08NdosiJwl8ufozFQi8uCRouEzXeF7nNyFTJ21rE8JTwn8nZ1q3gqkC/g0E19PwHqzY= I8Vd4foOuJFyv6ssm0HrcheLC90t9NNuCOanTwZ9N8lMa0wGO74JHyp2rDKc chBg9doqknj431C9cEMd5u_NLlw6GE1p3rKgxe37nsOWgHrA8lKDa2FJkuiM WZiO0ASWtSZfGbZIJ9C.Y6hQ1J4llVB25g4oGVMODVHBYnHiJJZevnwgKWtF wBe6lqXFy_XNmRneqB2Yx3OfNbaLqVXHvZ9XK48Z8ipxVQJaIayo10aSUVlN sunS50HtuScR2qgXYz9LC0VlK9Jm1MfysWALPf6n9lqLh9mFctG2Hf0JRVhU ohK3MkqNuGcpLVQoSgPRM5iqUmKiHHoEnpsxODivr2qp6YkH36rqmpzQk34s XP2aVP9NnzgK7TP7bYrEphbDBTQeIcePLgrSAs92UJs_5ST_442XyXxd1a5T GbzWQlFju8fBYPX9bL_oCY6o- plain) by smtp211.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Apr 2013 14:01:31 -0700 PDT From: WBEECH Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:01:27 -0500 To: "" Subject: [TR] VTR2012 DVD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At VTR last year there was a guy taking pictures and he also did the video show at the banquet. He said he was sending copies of all the pictures to whomever wanted them, I left my info for mailing but no DVD. Does anyone know who this was and how I may contact him? So many great cars and I did not take near enough pictures. Thanks, Bill. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 15:05:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA1045679 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039ED403A6 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=V9latSD0IlsA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=yZM0oBzVV_ude6h2Q2gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:41836] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id AC/A5-04559-24284615; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:04:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:04:02 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dixie4 wrote: > It does make you think why there was an almost universal change to wax > type thermostats in the sixties. Could be cheaper to manufacture or just new > improved. I do not know the answer. Maybe not "the" answer, but I know of several reasons. One of the biggest, IMO, is that when the bellows type does fail, they fail closed. Instant overheat! The wax type used to be known as "failsafe" because they generally fail open. (Not always, I have had them fail closed or partially open, but usually open.) Another is that the bellows (and hence the thermostat setpoint) is affected by coolant pressure while the wax type is relatively unaffected. Higher coolant pressure tends to hold them closed, not a Good Thing. And of course, the wax type is at least somewhat cheaper to make as well. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 16:44:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67384313F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:44:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E973B42B37 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Mo7v1l00B0mlR8UA3yiecv; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:42:38 +0000 Received: from sz0220.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Myie1l0052yr1eL8Xyie2t; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:42:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:42:38 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: WBEECH s=q20121106; t=1365547358; bh=wBBuBDgwtc32FZMBdR/tq4g93dybdkoPZJAMvobe52Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=EUCkEbjP7Bu5Yi/TrRe6rJLdUdmPqBbWS3ZiMT2IGx9a+GiA7/MUunlEpJsA+au8m RUyRneZFPtvFG+SaIPLsgCZ6vNboWHHIQZaRnVuNYzGfzyjeV6qODtzU7BK/+8C6VT 46jk2rUdQYpTtXNep6OO+J/4w8kXlTqNvnNUkG4adNoibAqt0yWGLqsj37YRTwmudf OQIdALmvMPh5/i6wp5fqqxTsCHNvpPD0JrlQrnXvVpQHxocdXUEKxnsLZHdFoIrjWH kcd+pU0YIxWO8CA6tl/XNC9h2So1EBoVMX2dJ0tdOFwQU4xuKW73ddSMUOrN+pwNeV mzs5PSPCzcGXQ== Cc: triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Empty trailer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What are you up to? Sorry, not scheduled to be in the Lone Star State in the near future. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.flickr.com/groups/triumphtransamerica http://www.mnautox.com http://www.mntriumphs.org ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WBEECH" > To: "" > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:41:57 PM > Subject: [TR] Empty trailer > I know this is a long shot but is anyone coming through San Antonio > with an > empty trailer headed toward Fort Worth? > > Thx, > Bill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 10 12:40:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337B44CD8 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036C844B9C for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.33]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id HpGgNHKApGOzhETx for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DR-EX-04.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) by DR-EX-00.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:38:28 -0700 From: Pete Arakelian To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:38:28 -0700 Thread-Topic: modern skirted 'stats Thread-Index: Ac42GpfqOBRYZOozTO+BBtYD7OyAiw== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: [TR] modern skirted 'stats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just F.Y.I... The Moss $109.95 is a true reproduction of the original. The sleeve is not "soldered" at the base of the stat. It is as illustrated and as original, spaced away from the bottom of the stat and is a true bellows type. And yes, you must preserve the lower pressure system or the bellows will collapse. Moss does offer the fail-safe type that always locks open when overheated. Peter ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 10 18:02:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9EB45B86 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FAF45B76 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lD45NTE5H1AA:10 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=OayH2dClwHJWbSeYerIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gyUl2z4khcIA:10 a=aoZ5M6P00hm66gzMXFyOyw==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.107] ([10.128.132.107:54969] helo=hrndva-web16-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 07/F8-15679-E1DF5615; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:00:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:00:30 -0500 From: To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" , Pete Arakelian Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] modern skirted 'stats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Great discussion on thermostats. I have the original one (I think) in my tr250 and I put it back in after I tested it and it seemed to work fine. Still not planning onswapping it out, but will put a spare in the trunk. Greg Lemon ---- Pete Arakelian wrote: > Just F.Y.I... > The Moss $109.95 is a true reproduction of the original. The sleeve is not > "soldered" at the base of the stat. It is as illustrated and as original, > spaced away from the bottom of the stat and is a true bellows type. And yes, > you must preserve the lower pressure system or the bellows will collapse. > Moss does offer the fail-safe type that always locks open when overheated. > Peter > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 10 19:31:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC05145B9A for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E648045B76 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lD45NTE5H1AA:10 a=1y7PHJpih6PyUC6qW8MA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:57621] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id AA/55-02984-A3216615; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:30:34 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 1:30:34 +0000 From: Randall To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] modern skirted 'stats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- glemon@neb.rr.com wrote: > Still not planning onswapping it out, but will put a spare in the trunk. Your TR250 would have had a wax pellet type (no sleeve) as original anyway. Hardly worth carrying a spare, when you can pick up one that will work just fine at practically any car parts place (Autozone, O'Reillys, etc). And actually, the engine will run plenty well enough to get you home even without a thermostat. Heater won't work very good, though :) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 00:31:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A691645C54 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1B42C25 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F073A0CFE for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:31:37 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] 22 and counting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A number of you already tossed into the hat based on my message about what you'd like to see, or not see. Thanks, you're off the hook. Here's what I'm sending to the other popular lists: April 11th, 1991 - Team.Net becomes an official domain. For a few years before that, though, the basic foundation was getting built up. It has been a long ride from those days until now. We are still here. And we can continue on for who knows how many more years? If you'd like to help Team.Net continue, consider putting a few dollars towards keeping it on the air: http://www.team.net/donations.html mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 05:53:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9968243472 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:53:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FE443472 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 05:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6F1A71C0000B2 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.5]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 46DCFE000087 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:51:02 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365681062; bh=Wrozx4i4uizkIwvpx5Ba0GcMmmyaKFWL21DSDJRIT1o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Lywkg5dp/AlNqG5YCSizLWRAj1IB/yXK7CtB2LrAOflFbhwZYOlxOtxBqWpE1YBMz zl8OyErtycr/tI9NhRkAA7LTXPgsHRdBZEhn7GdKP1gT2c3Pp4fGIRPVNc4UOic7gK BNFtKJvQueyvH2i5cvffITmGWLqCAQ3bJytjByKs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e5166a3a65a1d Subject: [TR] Skirted thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All this talk about skirted thermostats is just silly. A real man uses a KILTED thermostat! Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 06:45:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413B445EF9 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 06:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F124245E85 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 06:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NZmw1l0030QuhwU53chHLK; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:41:17 +0000 Received: from [10.237.5.10] ([174.253.128.106]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Nch51l00i2HsQ0m3Nch8KX; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:41:15 +0000 To: Dave1massey@cs.com,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:41:15 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1365684077; bh=NeEqRdpUaHnhdCZbFwRIJfisyUxqGEa9467TEEJBhJs=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tpuxszPxVPj1X0rS0Dte1buy3v5NEHbDlizXgUcDNpru0LQxsk+3TlIWuWj2PaN1o PuIvvDObdVMJd6eGmSt3WJ5l7kr8zFIaxi9mmOoan4AXuO1AtB/AbF9fmrlA1182Bz k3t7GUm9Y9f0yormsYmxUnNIm9s2uyoQJnthDGkhaoerf2MLkxmP1bcfmiz5RyFBKp 0WRuM4kGeBCnQ7zkLedl6ChQQEVkGspJHlzdGYb6GBIiSoJ/O9GOtVep41/IsyHLnI V1djvIh7aRUQPOih4ZF2sRLVi+7wtM6Fep9JE6g6cGuLA6QUOxu9vD00U0FVOohOTM 71UxqXU9xFCoQ== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Skirted_thermostats?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Let the wind blow high, let the wind blow low, down the street in my kilt I'll go, all the lassies say hello. Donald where's your trousers? Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com To: Subject: [TR] Skirted thermostats Date: Thu, Apr 11, 2013 06:51 All this talk about skirted thermostats is just silly. A real man uses a KILTED thermostat! Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 09:06:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0843075 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:06:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E234427C5 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:06:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2013 15:05:13 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.99] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2013 15:05:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2013 15:05:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 62034 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Apr 2013 15:05:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365692713; bh=sknft956xFfGPYGXq4mAcpYdD4UAdIVSTlgsgL7X3mU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HIZ/dqU3uQfmd0wkYoh6tyDshQn/1WjB+tzhi4opaPXRhvl1ZM7nRFzUHDTc7W8LQK/6WykhwAqYQTTlki2KF8/7wilrFPDMfNNORO3gHYUq0eQ+txLEZze5LXi/VBfT8gWpE0V0FdyMKa2UdrqUx7gcVmZ3bmGKeqmSTETl9Ck= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QdE1kb2EmmvHuVkwzFTt2FW2iyjFYUjZz6vfcODh22yo0+QOmTpu7Y+5mOk7kKnCOQLmKJ5odSItK8QmRLvlx3+AyYAbB8Ixg0OhgowBu1E7QDSj8Ss7gomsKVTjwJ6cYw59JMKiec28IayCQlz1afAK+TDSLIWyogpcSVOc1Fk=; AAeakNwK2H8Sgn4zAdJyzMVoFI6RetKfCBdqu0y0_0euqEjY6HhTRl8dm2Tg DK7infHdd8MJQ_wz9YoOypBq_H1TzkSIpyV60Uf9VGVU4fYUR8e74oSZi7gJ WSdzosWnWg69b1BoaxMT6xfd8SlNoXl9qYI.bAehCz6XJdZ_NN6DsTFadzW_ z8DyGmRiKpAFWMw82BwvZVERZbvzNoMyCWH9Pgi2u9dIl65PzQglKap.DRZ6 4RgPE0hAEx.Ln6hSHg8iY.CSP9v5H2UGYU7xjSKR0VvXVw5rJE5L4WcUpJmX _4oNAgPCj6_dG.nY4RzecVtgjgBBj.8nvBunpK8jjJPdCGIBEgZXp_jm5_55 G7XUHmc3XsMMYDGLuMX8QvpEkj6m5vam7zQdigCAYlWbB0Obe..9rfYx5fOv z2DL0GJJQyAh4lp7u2QjG7cHqX1fcUAU1qgzQJOG5pcB2ZBhwp..WpWBe9GB ArNa9xHgn Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:05:13 PDT wqDCoMKgwqAgSXMgdGhlcmUgYW4gb25saW5lIHBkZiBmb3IgdGhlIGNhbGlicmF0aW9uIGZvciBhIFRSM0Egc3BlZWRvbWV0ZXIgd2l0aCBvdmVyZHJpdmU_IEkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBkbyBhIGNoZWNrIG9mIHJwbSdzIHZlcnNlcyBzcGVlZCBpbmRpY2F0aW9uLgrCoMKgwqDCoCBUSUEsCsKgCsKgwqDCoMKgIEJpbGwgaW4gVGVoYWNoYXBpATABAQEB Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR3 Speedometer Calibration Graph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is there an online pdf for the calibration for a TR3A speedometer with overdrive? I would like to do a check of rpm's verses speed indication. TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 15:25:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AB14431E for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:25:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052B42A18 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:23:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP9 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:22:40 -0700 Received: from HPlaptop ([70.26.92.170]) by BLU0-SMTP9.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:22:39 -0700 From: Mo and Dave MacKay To: , Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:22:40 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac42+rBTq94lu8zfTpSpIrALYCmUQw== Content-Language: en-ca FILETIME=[B1F1A290:01CE36FA] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Speedometer Calibration Graph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bob Danielson has an excellent write-up on his web site: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpeedometerCalibration.htm I created a little spreadsheet that calculates the speed at any rpm in a particular gear when I was contemplating installing the HVDA conversion in my TR3A. I'd be happy to send it to anyone on the list who might find it helpful. After installing the HVDA transmission, I found myself routinely speeding so that I figured I'd better re-calibrate my speedometer. I sent my speedometer to Margaret Lawrence at Mo-Ma in New Mexico. She charged US$150 to recalibrate the speedo and had it back to me in about 2 weeks. I'm happy with the work that Mo-Ma did. In order to calibrate the speedo, Mo-Ma needed to know how many revolutions the speedo cable makes in a mile. My speedo was set for 1184 revs per mile. To determine what the revs are now, I measured out 59 9= (1/100 of a mile) on the road in front of my house. I marked the wheel and pushed the car over that distance to see how many revs the cable made. I repeated that 4 or 5 times. I came up with 10 complete turns and a partial turn of about 215 degrees, which works out to 10.5972 speedometer cable turns over the 52 9= distance. Consequently, I asked Mo-Ma to calibrate my speedo for 1060 revs. Regards, Dave MacKay 1960 Triumph TR3A s/n 68639L near Toronto, Canada >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:05:13 -0700 (PDT) >From: William Brewer >To: Triumphs >Subject: [TR] TR3 Speedometer Calibration Graph >Message-ID: <1365692713.60557.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Is there an online pdf for the calibration for a TR3A speedometer with >overdrive? I would like to do a check of rpm's verses speed indication. > >TIA, > > Bill in Tehachapi [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 16:25:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F35F443EC for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF1444394 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e12so1662307vbg.17 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XwEZxpeaM5dIdExOSMgVUYDhS+ViUBlwG8O3j2JMsRw=; b=SFAYUbITdecRYY/O6sf5Gw9t0ger+aglTGHKge0pF5rgIFfF6SWdoXfCk9hIHG+n7/ R4wiLUbv6OV9Qz7JgKu+rC1UQ8pcroOx7fP826kRMU8d4D/8kPheSlSy1zjZPCYcI88K OkizebXZ9OcGbsXT7l3XMTIP3M5JLl5mxbeQT9Ee6XYn5dewx3LLtZ6067dvFKaOodXz GufCw0xsMLp1EhgFKYfcumNCKHF6hMfyb5dSOIzOhhJWf6AeJOhlVMKhfNZ1oZ+LdCo9 g42BuIpBYUW+O1z5ukM5vTMqFXj8STF+EvsjClDlrqhNPc7WnjAfTFeGVNrZLSfLzhky 1GAQ== s3mr3996479vck.12.1365718973048; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.101 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <1365692713.60557.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:52 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: William Brewer Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Speedometer Calibration Graph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill Try here & page down to last item... Rhodes TR Site Procedure is the same OD or non-OD as the speedo is reading the output shaft and doesn't care what is going on prior to that. As I recall your Practical Hints manual has a chart of mph per 1000 RPM in each gear, standard & OD. Geo On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:05 AM, William Brewer wrote: > Is there an online pdf for the calibration for a TR3A speedometer with > overdrive? I would like to do a check of rpm's verses speed indication. > > TIA, > > Bill in Tehachapi > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 17:06:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9089446A2 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC984443DE for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:03:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id u10so2101325lbi.3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:02:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MhnPeC2O7YSboZBEQSB0aVAzNnIVX8ooA0inXIof0QI=; b=zYyg39cvpPCaAbtwqPQ9KOAHP0+t9YlHtXDb38ptgSoZ+qLtBGlsaVuBW8dxz6fVmL ydyqqOW2bMRLfMRcJ2tM+RIxUpOBdvELERF9+UZdnxOR8XKnbhZ/W8PkY0Xg9/O9q20q KTrBJdypXIseVH6Z7oSqAYSX4JL38c9b4nthyoui2QM3F8kVWAosZtGhn+46VzGG2xYd RuUO0cFs6xyiyRrXxoODU0E43yzeJ+TaijB3MbyjDJRGJy5W7/3bO4kHcycBs9Ru3nH7 VTu7sYOT8mDgoKgmyjhyqZrmDGxgsf5pQMI3mqJE0u3aCv6oKMFE61m/eC/LwBnktBW6 /WxQ== wp3mr4238711lbb.128.1365721352172; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:02:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <1365692713.60557.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:02:28 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Speedometer Calibration Graph Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Istr a rpm at 10mph. My car has done well by doubling the rpm in 4th gear. If 4.10 you're on your own.... Gotta get the speedometer fixed some day... On Apr 11, 2013 6:26 PM, "Geo Hahn" wrote: > Bill > > Try here & page down to last item... > > Rhodes TR Site > > Procedure is the same OD or non-OD as the speedo is reading the output > shaft and doesn't care what is going on prior to that. > > As I recall your Practical Hints manual has a chart of mph per 1000 RPM in > each gear, standard & OD. > > Geo > > > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:05 AM, William Brewer > wrote: > > > Is there an online pdf for the calibration for a TR3A speedometer > with > > overdrive? I would like to do a check of rpm's verses speed indication. > > > > TIA, > > > > Bill in Tehachapi > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 06:14:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0858844E54 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B417F44999 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:09:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EB5671C0000F9 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B5983E000087 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:08:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:08:26 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365768506; bh=yg0rjwAaOLJfj3Q2pfFvXcderzsKTK0wDnM3jXzbIyQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fPvbqlYACn1xIXScAYc/XqhzQot/fxuxxXEBs7yFOVmtWM+a7afYb43bfMhzR/cG7 yE19JmC3sHfMxu2m2esu69QWcRU44lJKkD2kO96VLWOW2wbR/KfP3N/7/t00z4d+LN AFbMlfqXgut5s2xdwd7mfsZzVv1RbquZDaQhaRcw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b5167f93a5987 Subject: Re: [TR] Skirted thermostats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Scotsman clad in kilt left the bar one evening fair And one could tell by the way he walked that he drunk more than his share He fumbled round until he cold no longer keep his feet Then he stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street. http://www.lyrster.com/come-back/ring-ding-dittle-little-eye-de-o/www.thebar ds.net/music/lyrics/The_Scotsman.shtml In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mmarr@mail1.notwires.com writes: > Ah just got doon fra' the Isles o' Skye, Ah'm no' very big an' ah'm awfu' > shy, an' the lassies say, when I go by, "Donald, where's yer troosers?" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 06:21:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C0246286 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5157428EB for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:21:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x12so3188467ief.7 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hX2/FMNnENceQ7NmNkIIy7Eg5Thf6FgAUyylRX9nE6M=; b=W8SrfLmak7bpLxf8W+Sav03xj7Y16OSzXFtgjX8Ad/ymV0eRm61Fw0+RK9uOrZ0pmI 843f587Ig3msBo/V/nKSB7M15KCrhdLJ84bv+481qS30h/pDaYFUyPXQzeT26LQXJIx3 NPlFc0wFERo6t7yqjaaOMNqJW2r5IdFTL6IsAcekurQ73u+In+e6kDi1tLe7qHR9O5cl RegzsKaBkJJzD7E27nbm8isguq+CO03+Jj+GbMHUf7G/kn0VAf1L1Ry/vI1nre07/1/q WlI1fXZ9MIagv2yUkxNnO42L4I4OWqBqOVz+rP1gOgLxpickE7WB0aIlm6ejTXyuQi8z 7J9A== Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.28.77 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:20:28 -0400 From: aribert neumann To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Metric threads on GT6 / TR-6 motor mounts - anyone else notice this lately - long posting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greeting all: Anyone recently bought Triumph motor mounts where the threaded stud was metric instead of inch? Recently I purchased new motor mounts for my Spit bodied GT6 from a US supplier specializing in the small Triumphs . Last night I took the time to install the first of them. The new mounts came w/ nuts on the studs - this was a bit unusual so I checked the threads - M10x1.25 (fine thread) instead of 3/8-24. Leads me to think these are Chi-com or similar parts (along with the "rubber" that had flashed onto the mounting surface that I had to cut off to make the part fit properly). If the supplier has no issues with making a fastener substitution, what other substitution are they willing to make? If the vendor is willing to supply one inferior part - how many others that they sell might be inferior? Anyone else replaced motor mounts recently in a GT6 or TR6 (not sure what else shares this part)? The Spit 1500 appears to have a similar mount but with a single stud instead of dual 3/8-24 studs - not sure what the earlier Spit motor mounts looked like. If so did the part include new nuts? Did you check if the threads were metric? I realize that service parts such as these are made in small runs - I suspect that the worldwide demand for TR-6 / GT6 motor mounts may not exceed a few hundred pcs per year. Maybe we are down to one willing supplier and it is a take it or leave it situation - I am just trying to see if there are other options before I contact the vendor. Motor mounts are pretty straightforward and hard to screw up but I also bought new front spindles from the same vendor that I will not get around to installing for several months and I am a bit concerned about a poorly machined part or a bad material substitution by some 3rd world supplier. Spindles are a bit more mission critical than a motor mount. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 06:36:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AF246397 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ADC45B18 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Nz2z1l0050SCNGk550axwA; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:34:57 +0000 Received: from [10.231.106.254] ([174.251.144.164]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id P0am1l00G3Z2Ejy3V0aouK; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:34:55 +0000 To: Dave1massey@cs.com,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:34:54 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1365770097; bh=D5Adb07ptBAQ0HkjbheyI2asTlq90aan6bM/YNDsmIo=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gs5V+vIkkOFY/LBfj58PyqjVPhkvw8UeNlnvQuJXYRMt0d/loFSvFRqzcgwkLP2rd zFi5PWScHyC1FDTx0lB6e+xGl81+UsLJ4VO3FathtHwt8oIPA3CBUfUF57J0lfJTCx W27+dyBJwHpOS3O4ZpVkqmToeWLKJOuMpBq9yqpcIxMx6VdnmChN2qacQ6Ft7FrUxi Moua+spRaZWHz7kRDxdBqR3EqgvA2KpVol0Pb02anCLAtkE0V5fXf3igmZ5JktEDbk qbCLnxfprkmSY0VHEBFyXuVWgx9Qgp5RrxAlHsQUT7w015gbrEMppY0P5nV3uMCuYv qUXYYiV2Rs3ww== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Skirted_thermostats?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Two young girls came by and one said to the other, "Nell, I want to know what these Scots wear under their kilts"! Her friend was enthusiastic, too, and so they pulled up the lads kilt. After admiring the length and breadth, one girl playfully tied a hair ribbon around the member, and the girls laughed about it on the way home. In the morning, the young scotsman awoke and with a sore head went to relieve himself. As he stood behind a bush he was startled to find the ribbon! "Lad, I don't know where ye've been, but you've won first prize!" Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com To: Subject: [TR] Skirted thermostats Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 07:08 Scotsman clad in kilt left the bar one evening fair And one could tell by the way he walked that he drunk more than his share He fumbled round until he cold no longer keep his feet Then he stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street. http://www.lyrster.com/come-back/ring-ding-dittle-little-eye-de-o/www.thebar ds.net/music/lyrics/The_Scotsman.shtml In a message dated 4/12/2013 4:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time, mmarr@mail1.notwires.com writes: > Ah just got doon fra' the Isles o' Skye, Ah'm no' very big an' ah'm awfu' > shy, an' the lassies say, when I go by, "Donald, where's yer troosers?" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:13:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0159F44FCE for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A25044BE0 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:10:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.31]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id P78x1l00e0geR5A0178yA5; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:08:59 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:09:06 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac43sH1qkgxUL+8vQxqWOJwbkgcxhg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a couple of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and (overdrive) gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight ones? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:28:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AF242F53 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532842D5E for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY173-DS8 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s20.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:22:38 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:22:33 -0700 Thread-Index: AQG7PB+iG1S7loftFCjrZmWXNHVZ9Jj47ZUQ Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[180382C0:01CE37B3] Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just used one of the HF ones for my AH3000 (longer and heavier than the TR4) but would not attempt with the trans and OD attached. It's a fine piece of kit, but the lever arm with an trans and OD anchor hanging off the end may be a bit much. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:09 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] engine stands I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a couple of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and (overdrive) gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight ones? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jagmog@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:28:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B9B4507B for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2024439A for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=TDyuVQWkDx8A:10 a=J5Jfo_ckAAAA:8 a=-Jj_AifiAAAA:20 a=88QjQhxoAAAA:20 a=57eCblEJYaRJNROPM_0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=BckOd2cBau0A:10 a=Xy_FUz828SIA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:38460] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 47/84-02984-91F58615; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:23:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:23:05 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Andrew Uprichard Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a couple > of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and (overdrive) > gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight > ones? What HF calls an "engine stand" is not intended for hanging an engine plus gearbox on. The engine mounts to it via the rear flange. I have the discontinued 750 lb engine stand from HF, it works well enough for me. http://goo.gl/kEQVs The main difference is that it only has 3 wheels and is correspondingly less stable (which can be a concern if you are trying to move it over a rough floor with an engine on). It's had a TR4 engine block hanging on it for probably 20 years now and is still holding fine. IIRC I had to source some suitable bolts, though. The ones that came with it were not long enough. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:29:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7220450A5 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E014742B72 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:27:33 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=TDyuVQWkDx8A:10 a=rrQw8Cm8KExL7kSQ-JUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:41980] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1F/D7-02984-DDF58615; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:26:21 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:26:22 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, I used the 1K stand for both my TR4 and TR6 engines. Didnt have the transmissions mounted. They worked really good. Rotate etc. I also loaned it to a friend who used it for a 200CC Ford Mustang 6 CYL with no problems. When it came time to mount the transmission, I just hooked the engine up to my chain-fall and then lowered the engine on a pallet where I assembled the clutch and transmission prior to installation into the engine. If you have your transmission mounted to the engine, how will you attach the stand to the engine? The attachment points are on the rear of the engine with flywheel off. 4 long bolts hold the engine to the stand. Bob On 04/12/2013 03:09 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a couple > of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and (overdrive) > gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with the Harbor Freight > ones? > > Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:33:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB345091 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A62B442FB for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.31]) by p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id P7Xu1l00T0geR5A017XvbF; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:31:57 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> <51685FDE.5020404@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:32:03 -0400 Thread-Index: AQG7PB+iG1S7loftFCjrZmWXNHVZ9AI5KpqcmOcmrZA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Bob - I wasn't thinking. It happens frequently these days............. Rather like the time I was thinking of getting a tonneau cover for my TR3 and was then reminded it had a roll bar....... Andrew -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:26 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Andrew, I used the 1K stand for both my TR4 and TR6 engines. Didnt have the transmissions mounted. They worked really good. Rotate etc. I also loaned it to a friend who used it for a 200CC Ford Mustang 6 CYL with no problems. When it came time to mount the transmission, I just hooked the engine up to my chain-fall and then lowered the engine on a pallet where I assembled the clutch and transmission prior to installation into the engine. If you have your transmission mounted to the engine, how will you attach the stand to the engine? The attachment points are on the rear of the engine with flywheel off. 4 long bolts hold the engine to the stand. Bob On 04/12/2013 03:09 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a > couple of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and > (overdrive) gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with > the Harbor Freight ones? > > Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:44:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E8A4512B for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:44:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339A642B13 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2013 19:40:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.47] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2013 19:40:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2013 19:40:32 -0000 imTg9WgPgbah0kSrhxwCiCWVC_KmZNtKHuay0ydUeZUqc2scxiPbNBYZGB3P oqJiR0PoOVzw29clR0V_Gp7kwzVOtVkS1R5bvFe9tnFJhmfCtLIYtWT0457u srgwa32nNrv0dJsTz.QLk1bwZEIohsUttrVm7YHtYJllc2O4vkQzj4.DKf76 QIdrz0OWP.FMT.QINDURNWgcSC.2yOaWim13I7uT_b0tdEYJQMm0V4nmFJmu r0605LPSm3VUoXb.nuGsbkQcb17sekktTMA._ubVm3J3Ay8m.r49NP93MbGM V2pnCxwT9xlw83DOZTuxrmpnJ0QE58ISJI4776K36Q7eJzCaQFmKENYW9juu 99IGdf9kbQ0BKPZAwGJ2xy7NXbWrOo64RrQz.W_7Ix4xZkl9fk1OWP1bFl2A OBJqm7FCSsXQtIwnGK7HzDTzVktLf by smtp104.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Apr 2013 12:40:32 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:40:35 -0400 From: Hugh Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: aribert neumann References: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Metric threads on GT6 / TR-6 motor mounts - anyone else notice this lately - long posting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know that the TR8 motor mounts look exactly like TR6/GT6 mounts and are occasionally sold as "heavy-duty" TR6 motor mounts. The TR8 mounts have metric threads. Perhaps they have consolidated production in the PRC and only make one mount for the TR6/GT6/TR8? Hugh Barber Stafford, VA On 4/12/2013 8:20 AM, aribert neumann wrote: > Greeting all: > > Anyone recently bought Triumph motor mounts where the threaded stud was > metric instead of inch? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:44:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4013845140 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout003.mac.com [17.172.220.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23D642B13 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com ([17.172.220.247]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTP id <0ML5003VOQMW8L80@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:40:27 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-12_06:2013-04-12,2013-04-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=2 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=1 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304120189 Received: from localhost ([17.172.220.161]) by st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01(7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0ML500FTKQN1N400@st11p02mm-spool002.mac.com>; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:40:13 +0000 (GMT) To: Andrew Uprichard From: Darrell Walker Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:40:13 +0000 (GMT) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: Rather like the time I was thinking of getting a tonneau cover for my TR3 and was then reminded it had a roll bar....... I had both a tonnueau and roll bar on my TR4a for a long time. Just had cutouts made to go around the roll bar. Maybe not quite so easy on a TR3, since it wouldn't be so flat. -Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 13:45:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340BE45143 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F027C42B13 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:43:26 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=TDyuVQWkDx8A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CEIloDk8xmMZPLcd2zQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:42287] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7C/B6-02984-69368615; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:42:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:42:15 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Andrew Uprichard References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> <51685FDE.5020404@adelphia.net> <00bf01ce37b4$6a585d60$3f091820$@uprichard.net> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, Ok, and by the way, that was a 200 CI Ford engine not CC. Doubt a 200 CC engine would be much good in a 65 Mustang! Bob On 04/12/2013 03:32 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Thanks, Bob - I wasn't thinking. It happens frequently these > days............. > > Rather like the time I was thinking of getting a tonneau cover for my TR3 > and was then reminded it had a roll bar....... > > Andrew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 3:26 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands > > Andrew, > > I used the 1K stand for both my TR4 and TR6 engines. Didnt have the > transmissions mounted. They worked really good. Rotate etc. I also loaned it > to a friend who used it for a 200CC Ford Mustang 6 CYL with no problems. > > When it came time to mount the transmission, I just hooked the engine up to > my chain-fall and then lowered the engine on a pallet where I assembled the > clutch and transmission prior to installation into the engine. > > If you have your transmission mounted to the engine, how will you attach the > stand to the engine? > > The attachment points are on the rear of the engine with flywheel off. 4 > long bolts hold the engine to the stand. > > Bob > > On 04/12/2013 03:09 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: >> I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a >> couple of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and >> (overdrive) gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with >> the Harbor Freight ones? >> >> Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 14:06:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3093D45185 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:06:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout12.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout12.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CC045105 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:06:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.8] helo=mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UQkDj-0008SF-JX for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:05:15 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UQkDf-0005vt-Fx; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:05:11 -0400 Received: from webmail11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.11]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id P8511l00Y0EKF3e01852r0; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:05:02 -0400 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=TDyuVQWkDx8A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=47mN3JBeei6G-EzyRxQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=Ndu5mMaA1Y8XCUuBqOSqgg==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UQkCT-0005d1-6z; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:03:57 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:03:57 -0400 References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:03:57 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Andrew Uprichard" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't like the stability of a three wheeled stand. You would like a four wheel stand better if you intend to move it under load. Greg G. Osseo, MN > I am thinking of getting an engine stand. I see Harbor Freight has a > couple > of 1000lb stands. Questions: is 1000 Ok for a TR3 engine and (overdrive) > gearbox combination and does anyone have experience with the Harbor > Freight > ones? > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 14:19:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D095451F3 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:19:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71954437F for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id t11so2956805lbi.25 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=LZQUMw3Pyh8nAgyQ3WUL0z8D8Rh7TFfynOWTEY1TxUU=; b=NucKaWYWCxT9r+YxTiRbKOn2rW3KgqMf7qqNJYNF+/ZJMXV2M6a+IOGSUtnDWRHc2U RLT/CUkDQMQ9aJjpEXQmQTygv0w0fJIfNkEB6TcfX9FC9lAqFKtd8QLeacqHsiAx7F2V RfP8VtnD61G5nqRfnS9HqQmbf2rL2D5EKk8XkxgvKS6Y/4eCP11vDtEuiKXu3FjO4GcU 2vIZ5+vab58sYeCQPnU/K/sl9FlCNPuiaBSeaOH270ZiucpLT7uVctHgVqw3JbBxs7zj o/ZGnpNQFWTZwqfwcjbN2XthDHJKM6YYFRh9/WtOawlhKIBytZVprYZ1L/W3uVP+Vqyo 3QEg== hy10mr5980870lab.37.1365797860323; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:17:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <00b001ce37b1$353ef2e0$9fbcd8a0$@uprichard.net> <1e7ae5e9d44f19fea662387b2f53720e.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:17:20 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I tried one of those hydraulic lift tables from Harbor Frieght on my last rebuild of the TR4. I really liked it. I set up the TR6 motor with a steel plate on the side and mounted it sideways on the motor stand - that is working out really nicely as well. I can send pics of the motor mounted sideways on the stand if you email me directly. Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 15:38:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C67B42BBC for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f45.google.com (mail-qe0-f45.google.com [209.85.128.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC549429C3 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:37:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 1so1784551qee.4 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:36:00 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=sg1e6SeDLBa3BJDrbRstf9iMC4ZB0rzR+Jaha3Dvwio=; b=n5odlCK4f/s70IOBdyR6gcM4hMP7b6bKAmQ1RmrlpReh/Iuh8l1lMZHF/hMUAHnhjB Qe46augRLKv9gFDm2tQuQJvC401IaEtyOLrNOxIH5ZRk4vibGFaE1VlvUdmZWq4sakCA JkkZwjtjEqsJbBPfOXYsukx23YvqltFMBrr3CrefNN/AkqNXtnpZquMvkVJYz37JwiJe jIULCBDKHPze018OoLOEg3IcSjj9a3Ow2g2zklOP2C1xEn8cUecP2hPbDblxQo5tYsa8 cvv+RO71pxzoTUG5XIU/cLvlc+5MbSYDNaySGl8GIdNWWoiydR7hj/Dkc5Er0fSiyKoZ p1LQ== y10mr15379110qec.64.1365802560891; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip98-180-71-26.ga.at.cox.net. [98.180.71.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r3sm2393390qef.5.2013.04.12.14.35.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:36:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac43xbQfqj66tFLNTDKH/ZXxL2vaZw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Save these cars! http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3735257268.html Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 16:06:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CA145472 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51F042B75 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 40B7D1C000092; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ddd004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.205]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C1836E000087; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:58:23 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Full-name: McGaheyRx Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:58:23 -0400 (EDT) To: trguy75@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365803904; bh=qTI3ZllxwtHpIX2kEPb5RI9Gq0JZA6GV9+6kP4u3aRc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DPkp23HUMyYUY3BOyza10NAXoPrb8Euvq/A2zPNz8sGxNQLYwE+mkR+GCXjm1AWhI UJGfuKV+YPgu9E3scMl3WuTnc7ZiUxvKTSTlCZRuZTFfUJHeja0l+k4P9F6KAcFWtJ euefhfAXKV2CJJ8NLj23Jl0G/b1tRgSUMjwJvkGU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a5168837f5e2f Subject: Re: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This collection is very near me - and has been known to local club members for at least 3 years - of course the best cars sold a while back. I made the decision earlier in the week to go to this auction instead of an autocross tomorrow - I saw it as a chance to score dirt cheap parts cars - since the auction has now been splashed across the internet (on the eTCOC list as well as here) I regret even thinking about missing an autocross. If ANY of you are going to this auction and bidding on any of these Triumphs, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW - nothing will be cheap enough for me if several of us are there bidding against each other - and its not to late for me to go Autocross instead. Thanks, Jack Mc In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:36:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, trguy75@gmail.com writes: Save these cars! http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3735257268.html Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 16:52:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7ED45532 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F83444310 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170033pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0ML500JHXZ5R6KV9@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.72 ([131.247.90.72]) by vms170033 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:44:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: yellowtr@adelphia.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] engine stands Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have a sturdy work bench. you may want to move to the top for clutch/tranny installation. no need to bend over, etc as well as much less 'lifting' even with a hoist. see: http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/media/TS81802LO/07-Tran1.jpg.html I did end up putting down on the floor as there was a delay in getting it into the frame. but if all had been as I wanted, it would have been straight to the frame from the workbench (it is on rollers) Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida On 04/12/13, Bob Labuz wrote: When it came time to mount the transmission, I just hooked the engine up to my chain-fall and then lowered the engine on a pallet where I assembled the clutch and transmission prior to installation into the engine. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 18:22:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF94570C for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f51.google.com (mail-qe0-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B28344DB4 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:22:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 1so1840271qec.24 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=76/u2TQbBmFIxuhklVzPtEEQ4gYTVeXAwwCpDQRaioA=; b=tqJvOIfVPn0qIxArsqH+/tnWHBIv1fqFy6rmFIgZ+Mnyc6l4lgnnG6O4b5SiVa6KK1 E3Rnu50VNCrT+KSo+cLNeoVNBtzSJohSDoFnjPjcqzHJd3dBSn1ty4aWmNvHkQE+p1tN 1jCQVVGYCELVyVIIfC2Vc/pMDMtb0olhGe1QowXygG86iR8Sysad6DCfO6zGCC/BPPrE Giip5lsEBFUU8Am0rU3VRxITwH3wNdGVzJqK11QH4hsPXP4VAx9Q6uIOiYWfHfhOYSj5 nFka69GwJiQVpF7IbXRump7psGT9CXLl7ZO1xeTnKsfWC3lvk+i1Ps0P/bCVlUx8Bahb AnaQ== bs2mr5070143qcb.52.1365812477335; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip98-180-71-26.ga.at.cox.net. [98.180.71.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en8sm16149333qeb.0.2013.04.12.17.21.15 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: , References: <133508.7767d341.3e99dd7f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:21:25 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJEKLUEDEiUEicooZyrWKyXH6GX/pfnaAeA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jack: Didn't mean to spoil the auction for you. Just wanted to make sure they don't end up in a scrap yard. Jim From: McGaheyRx@aol.com [mailto:McGaheyRx@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:58 PM To: trguy75@gmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out This collection is very near me - and has been known to local club members for at least 3 years - of course the best cars sold a while back. I made the decision earlier in the week to go to this auction instead of an autocross tomorrow - I saw it as a chance to score dirt cheap parts cars - since the auction has now been splashed across the internet (on the eTCOC list as well as here) I regret even thinking about missing an autocross. If ANY of you are going to this auction and bidding on any of these Triumphs, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW - nothing will be cheap enough for me if several of us are there bidding against each other - and its not to late for me to go Autocross instead. Thanks, Jack Mc In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:36:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, trguy75@gmail.com writes: Save these cars! http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3735257268.html Jim Henningsen Ocala, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 13 19:05:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD5342BD8 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3E142B4D for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3B036380000AD; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (230.sub-70-197-167.myvzw.com [70.197.167.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id AAA23E000087; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:03:41 -0400 (EDT) References: <133508.7767d341.3e99dd7f@aol.com> <007f01ce37dc$d6d68980$84839c80$@gmail.com> From: Jack Mc Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:03:42 -0400 To: James Henningsen x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1365901422; bh=MBn4Q9ddeW8K6DmGuJwl6IyzUj+wg5q01nuy0rEC7Sc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=LMxXCCi1XG34eZY6YEy2r+UCg+G+njzq8GO6PyKkMoXC2TG2MwNOOan5odmNXaKFP Dwuqx4dsC54cOJB+F9orGjRgl3TTNM04BXmIkmkCJ/Z1ccP1vlj8yHqWoNyP6yU3GC mbnOXZb+MHH48cC3NvLZaztUccT/LtWJNCulzLgc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2903516a006d0405 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim - Apparently you needn't worry about any TRs ending up in a scrap yard in these parts - all the TR250s and the TR4 went for what I thought was too much money - the grey TR6 wreck in the woods went for over $500 - I bought the white TR6 for a decent price and every Triumph and Triumph part on the property went home with a Triumph enthusiast. It was actually a fun day - probably because there were entirely too many people there that I knew. ;-) Cheers, Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:21 PM, "James Henningsen" wrote: > Jack: > Didnbt mean to spoil the auction for you. Just wanted to make sure they donbt end up in a scrap yard. > Jim > > From: McGaheyRx@aol.com [mailto:McGaheyRx@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:58 PM > To: trguy75@gmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] TR Auction in NC - Check It Out > > This collection is very near me - and has been known to local club members for at least 3 years - of course the best cars sold a while back. > > I made the decision earlier in the week to go to this auction instead of an autocross tomorrow - I saw it as a chance to score dirt cheap parts cars - since the auction has now been splashed across the internet (on the eTCOC list as well as here) I regret even thinking about missing an autocross. > If ANY of you are going to this auction and bidding on any of these Triumphs, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW - nothing will be cheap enough for me if several of us are there bidding against each other - and its not to late for me to go Autocross instead. > > Thanks, > Jack Mc > > > > > In a message dated 4/12/2013 5:36:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, trguy75@gmail.com writes: > Save these cars! > > > > http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3735257268.html > > > > Jim Henningsen > > Ocala, FL > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 10:04:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3509946962 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB35468CB; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c7f8f.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.127.143]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MLB00AN10KQ21L0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:02:47 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: 6pack@autox.team.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac458qwwJ82cngzdRb+ab2kh0X+9Zw== Subject: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After having my accelerator stick (why does it always stick ON and not OFF?), it appears I may need to replace the accelerator shaft bushings on my TR6 (all other parts of the carb linkages are new and/or not sticking or hanging up) . I have looked at both the MOSS catalog (part # 676-000 along with the Supplemental Info and Instructions) and the TRF website (parts # 138490 (nylon) and 138490/U (urethane)). I also have a copy of the article "Fabricating East-to-Install Accelerator Shaft Bearings" from the Buckeye Triumphs site. I have a pretty good idea how difficult these bearings/bushings will be to install especially since the engine is in the car and it's not coming out. My questions are: Can I presume that at almost 3x the price of the nylon bushing, the TRF urethane bushing will last 3x as long? Will the Urethane bushing be even more difficult to install? If I know a machinist that can fabricate the parts, is brass the best way to go? Any other bright ideas? I do NOT want to have to do this again. Thanks for your insight and any help you can provide. Dennis Culligan. Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U (with a new windshield ("I can see clearly now.")) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 12:41:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2067944B5B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5301042929 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:27:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.196] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:27:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 73845 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Apr 2013 18:27:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366050440; bh=G8HTx4vCbw7LfBqlzUKnkXAgxUiW1xHk2kO9pY/NtE4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UQO+Me33L6bb+803jgu6pMPaTG93iU+LVO9tp11IfYPk912irtxizJZZ1gGHt8DadLcehR+AysqK4aqSJ2l7VGOzQlUzCybbNnEdzdbzAZ3SVrlNqjDq0YO51U9UrnzZWveIGrPMooJEgSDQ8YAk0DRNhzTkdPOfkh3d7hJbJZY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3fScFg7SxQ2puCONmYRKf1lnaZualNr3rmz1GAXhkALBUDn9G8YcwwfpnPlBwWdvHMYyd5bFAcdv/ZFgRKKrI9+ZcorbrNXQM94PX0FfvyPKkwIws/cAxLXm6UkWfF+bZEMe7fic9ZQdvq9VzzqLivzo2D9T79pwj+aMQ9bvxC4=; A7um6jZserqRlXxNrnVGQLmphvJNqKkl6sQnoSBWpf4_53_8l0O0nq4HTuJF GOSjv0du1tVLPIGO1F7Az19X1W_CA1ZF8NhYMBbpDzn9724VIM.7gmxQveRp DEPE2YzQn4Ys09v3A1Lj4LceOzC8rckisnOGTa8iyzlpFfcip0nQKTLiz5Ia CsXJX5IHdOpF6z8byFjaRiEXiMWxkWj4lyFGMz3DicWIjoFA84pfichA3RuJ 1W_YEPdwfxzpjruZD75_5oPk1C5xbbQMm_e56KQ0lnSnvTvpR8bT1tTzh24j 8OD7dI9G6Hg1P8Snwy0ppm4wZ0ZH8PdtselaGyrwmLkaFTwLuSzyPujbNoAB GxqwnAZ2dfIUI9jAiboInQtRpmblr0y8pd82NBomOAa8AX3LPJJZ2sJZOYLL C4pSycRiT_dH_fb2LXFw- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:27:20 PDT DQpkcm92ZSBteSBmcmllbmRzIFRSNiB0aGUgb3RoZXIgZGF5IGFuZCBnYXZlIGl0IGEgYml0IG9mIHN0aWNrLg0KbG90cyBvZiBmdW4uIGxvdmVkIHRoZSBjYXIuDQpidXQgaSBkaWQgbm90IGZlZWwgaXQgd2FzIGFueSBncmVhdCBpbXByb3ZlbWVudCBvdmVyIG15IFRSMy4NCnRoZSBvbmUgdGhpbmcgaSBkaWQgZmluZCBhIGxpdHRsZSBmdW55IHdhcyB0aGUgd2F5IHRoZSBiYWNrIGVuZCBtb3ZlZCBhcm91bmQuDQp3aGVuIGRyaXZpbmcgcmVhbGF0aXZseSBzdGFyaWdodCBpZiBpIGRyb3ZlIG92ZXIgc2F5IGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. lots of fun. loved the car. but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind of normal in an IRS? Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 12:42:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119AD44B36 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA1342929 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:30:26 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=FyWKtUj-bhkA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=TTp5JTy-josA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=B0AD_OKQH3TQjUqv0moA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Lcwn_9M4fqMA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:38853] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C6/77-02984-BE64C615; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:28:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:29:01 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Dennis Culligan References: <000601ce39f2$ac8c0750$05a415f0$@net> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, I used the bushing replacement kit provided by Art Lipp. Hist email is lipp04@yahoo.com. Not sure how hard to do with engine in place. Bob On 04/15/2013 12:02 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > After having my accelerator stick (why does it always stick ON and not > OFF?), it appears I may need to replace the accelerator shaft bushings on my > TR6 (all other parts of the carb linkages are new and/or not sticking or > hanging up) . I have looked at both the MOSS catalog (part # 676-000 along > with the Supplemental Info and Instructions) and the TRF website (parts # > 138490 (nylon) and 138490/U (urethane)). I also have a copy of the article > "Fabricating East-to-Install Accelerator Shaft Bearings" from the Buckeye > Triumphs site. I have a pretty good idea how difficult these > bearings/bushings will be to install especially since the engine is in the > car and it's not coming out. My questions are: Can I presume that at almost > 3x the price of the nylon bushing, the TRF urethane bushing will last 3x as > long? Will the Urethane bushing be even more difficult to install? If I > know a machinist that can fabricate the parts, is brass the best way to go? > Any other bright ideas? I do NOT want to have to do this again. Thanks for > your insight and any help you can provide. > > Dennis Culligan. Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U (with a new windshield ("I > can see clearly now.")) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 13:08:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8651944B36 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA93F444B2 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:56:53 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=z6cVEvXjqwkA:10 a=X04jIzRiEuRUyO2vXl0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:39844] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/2A-11869-F1D4C615; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:55:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:55:28 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Frank Fisher References: <1366050440.47795.YahooMailClassic@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, I have to agree on the performance. Both my 3 and 4 seem to have a bit more between 2 and 3k than the 6. The 6 doesnt seem to get it on until about 3200 or so. The 3 is an 87MM engine. Both the 4 and 6 are stock. I use the same gas (premium without alcohol). All have Bell exhaust systems, SU carbs, stock ignition. As far as the hop in the 6, I have never noticed it. Did your 6 have a stock rear suspension? It does squat a bit on hard acceleration. As far as light rear ends, my 63 4 seems to be the lightest. Bob On 04/15/2013 02:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. > lots of fun. loved the car. > but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. > the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. > when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the > back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind > of normal in an IRS? > > Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 13:10:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E6444C38 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D285144A71 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B548A1C000074; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.13]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6B081E000081; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:05:26 -0400 (EDT) References: <1366050440.47795.YahooMailClassic@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-vd004.sysops.aol.com (205.188.20.37) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:05:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:05:26 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1366052726; bh=Fl5Ukr7OlYMptBCx4sG/g4Dow8PhZQ5tUsouqGI0Nss=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vJO2/OBfUiPgxrTq+JIgrALiX+CoxCZQchgJyu7nqcfgzNFsNnmz1Db9tf+jO/FhW OKl9zEcSLB3iUw7xWGBZOpBIB+QlH0F/37CCuthmezC6ZnXUlmgUR1RrpghVnvV7lo yAT159A7haG9y43vZtjDN2tdHqCSIJxFWC3rB6r8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a516c4f76240f Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are a lot of little things that can cause this behaviour. Worn trailing arm bushings are one. a sticky spline shaft can also cause the car to behave like this. Soft shocks, especially where one shock absorber is softer than the one on the other side will also do this. Alignment is also critical on an IRS vehicle. On the TR3 or any solid axle car the two tires will be pointing in the same direction no matter what. Not so with the TR6. And since the camber changes with wheel movement any inconsistencies will present themselves if the suspension is exercised. But when it is set up properly the TR6 should behave quite predictably. I've done all that and my car has no tendency to sidestep on bumps. But I have poly bushings, telescopic shock conversion, uprated springs and, most importantly, a four wheel alignment. A related aside, when I first got my car it had a terrible tendency to want to sidestep on bumps. When I did a major overhaul I found that a PO had installed a RH trunnion and vertical link on the left side. Collision repair since there was a RH trunion and vertical on the right side as well. Once I sorted that out the car rode much better. The four wheel alignment was also a noticeable improvement. But do everything else before you get the alignment since changing bushings will throw the alignment out. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. lots of fun. loved the car. but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind of normal in an IRS? Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 13:11:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52E144C40 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:11:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB0444C1C for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DellLaptop (c-98-208-239-81.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [98.208.239.81]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MWkNv-1U4P9D1M4p-00XnQS; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:08:54 -0400 From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Dennis Culligan" References: <000601ce39f2$ac8c0750$05a415f0$@net> <516C46ED.8030906@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:21:47 -0400 UBZKasQCpFF0S1+KWXljaLlQevkcrdFr6waiQ+K/1cgoO2b06V 09Cx7Qt/KSSaalbN997nfs+iy5Qnhw0z0RdNSeBT65Et68umXl 7cA37mDkUK1+LF04HN/dlIiCb/n94JdmWcj9l8773tBgKXPiml BFZ3Xfj2xYVHe0eiU3Ghysi70hqHC36z7K/1FwLyJk2+EGNq2S /TyR6H4hIQf04jaUkBUGdcgBDmSxYWssXBZulZzvqRoCc2glRj iE/1YbQQuBYtLIwNylruw0ReNOlMsLNwGbKR1JTpmxpHEWCKYx raHqCynzrJ92k5/Q2vZkX1iclaL46tFqDV4fh0YvmD+lip6lST igUD4UjvzbCcQ== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net +1 on Art's kit...... especially seeing as I'm the guy who got him to make the first one! It's probably the easiest to do with the engine in place. The bushings are made from Delrin which basically lasts forever and the design insures nothing will every fall apart. You can see how it's installed here: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AcceleratorShaft.htm Another cause of a sticky throttle is the carb linkage so here's how I clean and lube it: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/ControlRod.htm Bob www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: Bob Labuz Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:29 PM To: Dennis Culligan Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Dennis, I used the bushing replacement kit provided by Art Lipp. Hist email is lipp04@yahoo.com. Not sure how hard to do with engine in place. Bob On 04/15/2013 12:02 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > After having my accelerator stick (why does it always stick ON and not > OFF?), it appears I may need to replace the accelerator shaft bushings on > my > TR6 (all other parts of the carb linkages are new and/or not sticking or > hanging up) . I have looked at both the MOSS catalog (part # 676-000 > along > with the Supplemental Info and Instructions) and the TRF website (parts # > 138490 (nylon) and 138490/U (urethane)). I also have a copy of the > article > "Fabricating East-to-Install Accelerator Shaft Bearings" from the Buckeye > Triumphs site. I have a pretty good idea how difficult these > bearings/bushings will be to install especially since the engine is in the > car and it's not coming out. My questions are: Can I presume that at > almost > 3x the price of the nylon bushing, the TRF urethane bushing will last 3x > as > long? Will the Urethane bushing be even more difficult to install? If I > know a machinist that can fabricate the parts, is brass the best way to > go? > Any other bright ideas? I do NOT want to have to do this again. Thanks > for > your insight and any help you can provide. > > Dennis Culligan. Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U (with a new windshield > ("I > can see clearly now.")) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 13:12:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0224544C73 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:12:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAA444C2F for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:11:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-11208.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.59.203] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1URomm-00010C-HJ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:09:52 -0400 From: Keith Stewart Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:09:54 -0400 References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: dctr6@optonline.net Subject: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > If I know a machinist that can fabricate the parts, is brass the best way to go? > Any other bright ideas? I do NOT want to have to do this again. You might try Art Lipp. He makes a bushing kit for the accelerator shaft. His email address is: lipp04@yahoo.com Keith Stewart keithstewart@execulink.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 13:41:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DDA42853 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:39:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D29644A92 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:33:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4AB7D3800008C; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ddc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.133]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D175CE000085; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:31:51 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Full-name: McGaheyRx Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:31:51 -0400 (EDT) To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1366054312; bh=2pZRZc1S3JSUEHrBQ3nZEacx/OeURes5J7gAjiZ33Oo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KG6Zr65ObIgn6HxnarCcA9urn4CIJxR7SOuhQM3q82DNAHPH3oVkcf61yoceK+dQl NlCnps0juSNw8qz0k6S57eFJiT8EhYX7dHv0Dj1x9l+mTfzxhGSGJYfy7tfr4r87D/ CtEUqCTF071FCuFSN09j3Q5OMTCshbF5Ozao1ewQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b516c55a70802 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:39:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yellowtr3@yahoo.com writes: the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind of normal in an IRS? NO - NOT NORMAL AT ALL i think others have already posted a few of the many things that could cause that At this stage in the life of these cars, I think its utterly invalid to draw any conclusions about the differences between 2 models based on a comparison of only a few, or even several, examples of each. Handling, and certainly power and torque, will vary widely between different cars within the same model as a result of differences between the state of maintenance, tune, and upgrades on each car. This seems to obvious to post, but there it is anyway. 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Both my 3 and 4 seem to have a bit more between 2 and 3k than the 6. The 6 doesnt seem to get it on until about 3200 or so. The 3 is an 87MM engine. Both the 4 and 6 are stock. I use the same gas (premium without alcohol). All have Bell exhaust systems, SU carbs, stock ignition. As far as the hop in the 6, I have never noticed it. Did your 6 have a stock rear suspension? It does squat a bit on hard acceleration. As far as light rear ends, my 63 4 seems to be the lightest. Bob On 04/15/2013 02:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. > lots of fun. loved the car. > but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. > the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. > when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the > back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind > of normal in an IRS? > Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 14:04:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2542145639 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898AB4319A for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 19:58:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 19:58:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 19:58:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 80332 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Apr 2013 19:58:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366055885; bh=UC427WSPNScaEpGCV0NRvpqXbvT3B4mk93pz/cMmbwo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fPUOb/ZettTeLfUJ4IcYnSg9EWQiRTJJOlq5x+VbMXMYjJYTC9vvlF7qcM3XQoUwKvVIY72nX5/NeYVwAuK6YgU6Gz84VUsnzykuc6hRCYJ3NcPAcqI7crZRF7oLL36ze0NS8GKs69DpDPYcgqnk6gOF1LE07eS4gKXAPjrtP6c= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bXRzYNEtbvuqDkNmSWwH+Jjg5QmNqWYZjo7+zAxOyknLTepwewufA+DoDnRmSz+PNdNrKvWP48VOv0wYW4Imebgar/BGKZnlB30+aZ0kUjm0Wg4KqN9Wu5IbF4R2qjKb3unTGqJdykGxeHJEwoCLHJXqEw0MLT8b8ctW9M7uJDE=; lO20c2iGBuQ39E3od3bR1yq1Z7dmlQZGULceTwVVfX0k.YDAeve0Hsldn5Oq 25.HLVDKoJI_B9ACtVBacdORAiUdIZUZE_dv6nOw2AUwGuU9EGTrNik9mtaI EeTIn7FwokuIR8q5OauANOIz1VEYS9uAXN24z_wzGmb1Kg27bLU3aWgy8zME 7_pE7SX6dLDNTNTesVfd9FLgIVrPs2ESED3ZrMxPuuSxmFGJ.0WDObadxk3k 1joqemIC..7GSi.WctExheFDi92agLfNADb_sYc45vigwp24D.KJ2jTE6hxA 6P6UwbT8YZrNWHAUsvmuxdyz_2242uazHnJaQxy8OEzVPErl16zCfnhvzSTA EzEbsCAbp.XqqTldXGLmRa9lK2a39xYkVxSJJEGSzRGEox.zOmbWuSzuW_LC 8ApWiEwb8ybhK62mor7nHHPh7v3dC54FiBFWOLtj5ej1Ppi2o_GN4cw-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:58:05 PDT aWxsIHBhc3MgdGhlIHN1Z2dlc3Rpb24gb24uDQp0aGFua3MgRGF2ZQ0KDQotLS0gT24gTW9uLCA0LzE1LzEzLCBEYXZlIE1hc3NleSA8ZGF2ZTFtYXNzZXlAY3MuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQpGcm9tOiBEYXZlIE1hc3NleSA8ZGF2ZTFtYXNzZXlAY3MuY29tPg0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtUUl0gVFI2IHBlcmZvcm1hbmNlDQpUbzogeWVsbG93dHIzQHlhaG9vLmNvbSwgdHJpdW1waHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQNCkRhdGU6IE1vbmRheSwgQXByaWwgMTUsIDIwMTMsIDc6MDUgUE0NCg0KDQoNClRoZXJlIGFyZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Dave Massey Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ill pass the suggestion on. thanks Dave --- On Mon, 4/15/13, Dave Massey wrote: From: Dave Massey Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 7:05 PM There are a lot of little things that can cause this behaviour. Worn trailing arm bushings are one. a sticky spline shaft can also cause the car to behave like this. Soft shocks, especially where one shock absorber is softer than the one on the other side will also do this. Alignment is also critical on an IRS vehicle. On the TR3 or any solid axle car the two tires will be pointing in the same direction no matter what. Not so with the TR6. And since the camber changes with wheel movement any inconsistencies will present themselves if the suspension is exercised. But when it is set up properly the TR6 should behave quite predictably. I've done all that and my car has no tendency to sidestep on bumps. But I have poly bushings, telescopic shock conversion, uprated springs and, most importantly, a four wheel alignment. A related aside, when I first got my car it had a terrible tendency to want to sidestep on bumps. When I did a major overhaul I found that a PO had installed a RH trunnion and vertical link on the left side. Collision repair since there was a RH trunion and vertical on the right side as well. Once I sorted that out the car rode much better. The four wheel alignment was also a noticeable improvement. But do everything else before you get the alignment since changing bushings will throw the alignment out. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Frank Fisher drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. lots of fun. loved the car. but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind of normal in an IRS? Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 14:13:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB0B45491 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C07431D7 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:11:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QL5a1l0020lTkoCA9LABy3; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:10:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QLAA1l00E4L5TyG8QLAAZL; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:10:11 +0000 From: Bud R To: Frank Fisher Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:10:09 -0600 References: <1366050440.47795.YahooMailClassic@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> s=q20121106; t=1366056611; bh=d1tS4K/ggm0RkjYJtTT3lsmAiKQnkl/+/Mf+eishPc0=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=kqidlIO+aOWmAx0Ukx1feQTIMA6U7Jw3YUAhzp8dW3lMDbFNH+eiSBchL0orLETR2 68HKy8YNo/3+P1wzEebWGcMuEhHqnEsla9ikdEGLb/te1+CqlmUeG3ZQ44wSEGgZPJ +keyJqY5E8DKMOVBk37FMj8UGSTt6OdrS988ZHAF1IZoiOZFTjuzZxXUmweMOvf8xg 7mH056/ZY1e2FZY4GkZPLngf2Dq8D7VqLA+HxPC2OFL46N3I7BO5L2sIuBfTqwvBQL 58GSdOhpVvsZmtIoMl4Gbe48I4ob9QEAe6sQA3o9VOlX0KDLEauiJXilNqpDsdjwnb Z9dGddck/TWZw== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the handling has gotten to the point that it needs work maybe the engine tuning has been neglected and is also needing work. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. > lots of fun. loved the car. > but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. > the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end > moved around. > when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the > road the > back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is > that kind > of normal in an IRS? > > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 15:01:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9422845A5B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:01:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5DE42EE9 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:54:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 20:53:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.171] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 20:52:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 20:52:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16421 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Apr 2013 20:52:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366059179; bh=q2dUZ72vU6x/meGipyxq+Y00SGVO0QWQmHNe1PqA6Pw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HKRZ5ztbGa4vmfOJ/PnkCuMK7Kgokm+K6qLcH9/AtqXuKa46jqC2X9sDmAzITCCJCs9s2BG3mfJhN7cxdvhaFFafp1vigSs4AC2HZvtoSIIWsxeuu19PEkA1la9lOIBQC3wkQz32jVlczOv8ZHv9C0/1lw6umFQ37Inrafovc/c= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xJSf3MzJJZdafBFZhTvNZvT11/0BbuiJsIW2EZZGo1qYKTUbdukV8IXalRrQOcdpz7xMkCxbldOYW9tHPHb3Bk9kp36eK4O0wIhRxU6WYtSYUmwXz1tGcazLl0JeM7yfB8eim/zkCnvuc75pevuzqocGo/oVRQohT4vMCwOFGco=; lIYhOoeYnTToUz87TQoXEmyWpN6hi4lCrMPegZGXV8bB7Ju7SzDKgsH6mJ2R KkAYyQzihT.BXdBavXMDqN.LbuVvqgDBWAobyhh2dy2VVGdkwKNq0Pj6T_UF AM8M.94A7h19l.uket6VbTrSGVJ85pkewmSBF1xJ8VTGb2n3FhkBnBZb1MOc y7A4aExzCZPDREo3Tj6Ea5YlpPLU.CX.Gq6PGr7fv9Bp8m5pLCvo_ANJsBZQ VF_zo.v6_jWmus6lrdre.3H6w3zWxG2vaWdEVR2rd7ZGwbPIa23gn0edi1Fe 48.kng4HF8kSWOT9.atEGiTt87TcmPQ0DTbm_m4JarB3MmmuznjQfVRo8GX5 7psONLm6tCZim5lcMH1iruEg8Lhf.oCIUY47DvfPJnLSqEBGwt.Ff6IzxUC4 fWj_LUeJ3JZjvi8zCVPEnbpAi1CHPTZLJZZsOuA8kKE0D_BIF6PR.Ls1BAcX tKKplbhim5rkz6BP_SNdK4LZzHcf_gQ8hvmzVB_tS4raqWrz9DfhjoHVfyN5 JJDENoDqY_q.uO.2hdrBrkW551pGoDn5B4eOAR1g7z4vh2n8DeQitMTCJ_3i hQ14b3RAbhbcRoG7Um6L0tDY.MwfBCIk5jJS1_haOG3jGg3yXUo4Pa.W4hnp klQ-- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:52:59 PDT bmFoIQ0KdGhlIG1vdG9yIGlzIGdvb2QuDQp3ZSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gd29ya2luZyBvbiB0aGUgY2FyIGZvciBzb21lIHRpbWUgbm93Lg0KdGhlIGNhcmJzIHdoZXJlIHJlYnVpbHQgbm90IGEgbW9udGggYWdvLg0KY29tcHJlc3Npb24gaXMgZ29vZC4NCmFsbCBlbGVjdHJpY2FscyBuZXcgb3IgY2hlY2tlZC4NCm92ZXJkcml2ZSB3b3JraW5nIHJlYWwgd2VsbC4NCsKgDQrCoA0KwqANCg0KDQotLS0gT24gTW9uLCA0LzE1LzEzLCBCdWQgUiA8bGV2aWxldmlAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IEIBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:52:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Bud R Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net nah! the motor is good. we have been working on the car for some time now. the carbs where rebuilt not a month ago. compression is good. all electricals new or checked. overdrive working real well. --- On Mon, 4/15/13, Bud R wrote: From: Bud R Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance To: "Frank Fisher" Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Monday, April 15, 2013, 8:10 PM If the handling has gotten to the point that it needs work maybe the engine tuning has been neglected and is also needing work. Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. lots of fun. loved the car. but i did not feel it was any great improvement over my TR3. the one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind of normal in an IRS? Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 19:24:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226CB45B04 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:24:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1C144D3B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=TTp5JTy-josA:10 a=ltPjbRhVxAEcUZaCAscA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=aoZ5M6P00hm66gzMXFyOyw==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.107] ([10.128.132.107:47520] helo=hrndva-web16-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 35/33-15679-167AC615; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:20:33 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 1:20:33 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good to know there is a commercially available product that works for the bushings. I tried the ones from the Roadster Factory and no combination of warming it to make it soft lubrication force and finally some trimming could get them in. I am by no means the best mechanic but am pretty dogged and persistent. I gave up and spent much less time fabricating a couple washers welded to some steel tube. Has worked fine for a couple years. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 20:27:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1127345B48 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:27:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B0A44D20 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.96.221]) by p3plsmtpa07-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id QSPg1l0054mawSm01SPgoP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:23:42 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , References: <5AC54DA3-9227-4ED8-8715-4B1B35EFB462@execulink.com> <20130416012033.JWJGD.55299.root@hrndva-web16-z01> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:23:42 -0400 Thread-Index: AQG0oiSYxgHOLc/q1In35AwPiqEJC5kLTcdw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reminds me of the three little rubber pieces which support the wiper motor on the TR3. Not sure that I've ever managed to put them in without slicing them first. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of glemon@neb.rr.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:21 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Good to know there is a commercially available product that works for the bushings. I tried the ones from the Roadster Factory and no combination of warming it to make it soft lubrication force and finally some trimming could get them in. I am by no means the best mechanic but am pretty dogged and persistent. I gave up and spent much less time fabricating a couple washers welded to some steel tube. Has worked fine for a couple years. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 08:27:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DAF45B91 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:27:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1777B44269 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2013 14:23:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.51] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2013 14:23:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2013 14:23:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366122201; bh=9GUwigo3bVhPwLXeXukGDsbcAftjfPoUNwgaG16TtB8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=oVRfz6SuIuK/L3/V5zX9QuYU499twLL8ty1R2r08xsGsszRFmtPcfukTei7YDE3CkT+apGfew22fl7DbhPxJgBgJszJJVLpmTVt3rvY9KKjGeMr2M5Fqn2Cx5sXn5+dsRAlOV6p9rMeIURQ+WIEmLNFbUx08GvUZY/bBIQlUekg= 8wMQfhO6NMCX4bC15OzZM_ZZiteBAKZTP2Um2XIgbL_0GcoTyt8cWgCaz2Tx BJM5q2lrE0yyey7zkAy2pOfhap55ur6L.48ZjeyRPGTFh_KEldPT_b8ccUMN 9GOPli2XDulB4Us_tQ2xUqf_TIWI3mTHvpVePQGtIOeNntaHdB2Oe0ITEGJD bYMcN_YcplWeWz7dJWOwTuI64P6LMJ7NH8tfCgDeU2J8UYwvVcg.OK0OeqpR K0BVEdUGKWzLN31.Wt1njvzx2j2aSTkOkfqiQd0Fo9_4_rPW3URHNVbPu8qM jU__iAN3NaWxe5GpC2Wf5assLsfbK1pxQrdo6F4wsRc7D3YOxYqJ6fkgB5oT jvxooCcUEUKrd80Gtm90zTyUz4VIOa_gz9AU8cxUWvK0DMdEkzr1cbzSMz9H tLGJETMfu7k16mAKtErkvIPe8rb3TuTquKI13B7fPpUHD0dJ7g98iUcI6hYb hBM9POGXzVSFtCDzkEf3y9iCeR08C.CVSWQfEzskt.L_SkP1OJw-- smtp113.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2013 07:23:21 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:23:16 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac46rTLsBs+03CJQRl6sIwt+Ngjubw== Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that is currently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and have successfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the float bowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the tank will someday be located. To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the location of an electric FP? 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tank seems good too, if a bit out of the way. 2. Frame or Body mounting? 3. Firewall or inner fender? 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the old mechanical FP for authenticity? 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 08:41:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B9543CA5 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC7A45B8D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:40:01 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=2KZcXjmeYZsA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=QcZ6lny2zaQA:10 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=pXYzk_AoO9dt0MTzy64A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:47358] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2A/C1-25887-6626D615; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:38:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:38:32 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: wbeech@flash.net References: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, This was discussed a few years back and the majority feel the electric pump is best mounted as close to the gas tank outlet as possible. So I mounted my pump on the 3 sort of in the outside lower back of the spare tire compartment on the drivers side. I made a 2 wire harness that runs down the drivers compartment and out one of the rubber plugs beside the gas tank. I used Lucar connections on the pump wiring covered with that exterior wire harness plastic available at any FLAPS on the harness as it exits the body. I replaced the fuel pump with one of those blanking plates made by one of the members here and then on top of that, I made a steel plate for a fuel regulator. Inline filter before the pump and before the regulator. Output of regulator to the standard fuel line (minus the fuel pump fitting). Power comes from the coil. Some members have left the fuel pump in, but since it was always a PITA always leaking etc., I decided to replace with a blank and regulator. Others have installed some sort of cut off switch between power and the pump to turn off power in case of an accident. I went with the FACET pump on my 3,4 and 6 and they work great. Bob On 04/16/2013 10:23 AM, wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that is > currently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and have > successfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the float > bowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the ta > will someday be located. > > To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the location > of an electric FP? > 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tank > seems good too, if a bit out of the way. > 2. Frame or Body mounting? > 3. Firewall or inner fender? > 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? > 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the old > mechanical FP for authenticity? > 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? > > Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 09:25:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1864289C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D9243A61 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130416151910.JJSJ18627.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:19:10 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id QfK91l00S4qRjhw01fK9Lh; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:19:09 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=2KZcXjmeYZsA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=QcZ6lny2zaQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=GML8fp-3ps_9wLFI2KAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T8dgJqO1V8cA:10 a=8NYWoh9r7MQA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: , References: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:19:19 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac46rTLsBs+03CJQRl6sIwt+NgjubwACFmZQ Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Whatever you do, be sure to shock mount the pump to keep the vibration from being amplified by the body or frame where it is mounted. They are loud enough without helping it along. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wbeech@flash.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:23 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that is currently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and have successfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the float bowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the tank will someday be located. To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the location of an electric FP? 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tank seems good too, if a bit out of the way. 2. Frame or Body mounting? 3. Firewall or inner fender? 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the old mechanical FP for authenticity? 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 09:57:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E8A45BAD for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6944425B for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:53:53 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=2KZcXjmeYZsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=QcZ6lny2zaQA:10 a=VMd-wuowjYObJSnPS2oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E9/B9-11869-6B37D615; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:52:22 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:52:22 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac46rTLsBs+03CJQRl6sIwt+NgjubwACFmZQAAEkDrA= Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Whatever you do, be sure to shock mount the pump to keep the > vibration from being amplified by the body or frame where it > is mounted. They are loud enough without helping it along. Ditto ! I actually used a double shock mount, with rubber between the pump and a new mounting plate, plus rubber between the plate and the original mounting location (on a Stag). And I could still hear the pump from the driver's seat. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 12:17:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1510343161 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0896442BD9 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fk20so480433lab.34 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=UZ274bBdhEcuMrUMCuIvh6fpxRz85EgqSB02DUbADR8=; b=vG59r5I7mcf3wUeWyGppVWfdvtigPaJRBhy8/CxfDtsen2qguULLIp0781mfbgj3Wn teTtbbFq8oVYbHQCUpYoHCec8hN8Cn3dHn+UwVuY8x1+M5LDZm3kwjjuxeoJJmiu3Miu aYwYJlK2aEI8ZvV6nToy6r8cffRJkkuIRYYuxpY8vdsFHz12+7ziw6QpNY0Qw3KGbU+L RxDCTeXTdocBe3DBvVs1L4LlOzq5A9w3lXKT7lEemeKAaB4JLRdG5h9oL4IvjMgx/BoE KcMRjWgh+bEHoR8aJvZvu8/yiSYsmYM/BQu3G5mSKxet19Y8A0jcXvK8IcMb4mFC+MQO ji5g== rb2mr894057lbb.12.1366135856431; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:10:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <9213DD6D6ADC489F844CC183A5E07A86@Vista> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:10:36 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I used the facet fuel pump and mounted it via rubber shock mounts to the fuel pump blanking plate on the side of the engine - The hole spacing matched the pump mount spacing almost exactly. I bought some MG exhaust system mounts (with rubber isolators) as I figured they would hold up to the heat from the engine. I'm happy with it and the location made it pretty easy to plumb and wire up. I went to the junkyard and got a few ford taurus inerita switches (left side of the trunk under the cardboard). Since these were originally located inside the car - I bought some TR3 starter solenoid button rubber covers and used that to cover the top of the inertial switch to keep rain and crud out.. i also painted some of the black rubber electrical insulation stuff along the seams for extra protection. So far no issues. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Randall wrote: > > Whatever you do, be sure to shock mount the pump to keep the > > vibration from being amplified by the body or frame where it > > is mounted. They are loud enough without helping it along. > > Ditto ! I actually used a double shock mount, with rubber between the pump > and a new mounting plate, plus rubber between the plate and the original > mounting location (on a Stag). And I could still hear the pump from the > driver's seat. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 13:35:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0836442E6E for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA0142B14 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c7f8f.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.127.143]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MLD00LI44W23NC0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:31:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:31:11 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac462PNF6mc1rip7R7yo0kV/KEqZUA== Cc: yellowtr3@yahoo.com Subject: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: >drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. >snip >The one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved around. >when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road the >back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that kind >of normal in an IRS? Frank - I have a late 1976 TR6 that I've owned for 24 years. The phenomenon you are experiencing is what I've always called the "TR6 twitch". It seems to happen when the rear end "unloads" after hitting a bump or after a weight shift (like after you've gone around a curve and are straightening the wheel). My car is in very good kit, as they say, and has a tube shock conversion and a rear sway bar. I have no idea what causes this and have gotten quite used to it over the years. I just had some alignment work done and had adjustable trailing arm mounts installed - these should not make a difference but we'll see what happens. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 14:22:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7FF43A5B for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1995C43248 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:13:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E9C3A7000517D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqd001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.1]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9FCE5E000088 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:12:26 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Alan Myers Received: from 74.95.11.209 by webmail-m299.sysops.aol.com (64.12.152.50) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:12:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:12:26 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1366143146; bh=yUY/zKbBE/GMwl0SFqG0VMnWZlFH6LcZvfKnz4Fmmr0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OUaBziNtGhnfUwN7+LBvoiwchpxUPO4pJRXDkCDcsSH7cEOjjBt0s1XkDteRlZ6VD KuV9PudngUUwVrFLOxUZG1FTxiqyI+XNdGiBUC0e3S9PCoY4ZA5yM7+OvO/b2LpjmY jvzV8P+dcozdqT6918uiX98HsDFea0JZrnua3JTg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b516db0aa737a Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, It's on a TR4 but should be able to do the same on TR3B, if you wish... I mounted a Facet on the inboard side of the LH rear shock bracket. Photo here: http://www.triumphowners.com/collection.cgi?task=PHOTO&photocategoryID=800&se ctionID=111032 (2nd image). Previously I've had electric pumps mounted on body panels and they ARE noisy, even with proper rubber mounting! Putting it on the frame (rubber mounted, too) isolates it a bit better. It's also pretty well hidden behind the shock bracket, plus tucked up where it's pretty unlikely to get hit by anything thrown up from the road. This location is also below the tank, which will give the best results. I rigged it so two hoses from the tank feed a large Fram HPG-1 filter, which in turn feeds the pump. I used stainless braided lines throughout, eliminating all the plain rubber fuel hoses and piping. But you could just as easily keep those original if you prefer. I just blanked off the stock pump location, but I've seen people modify the original to keep it in place, used the Facet to "push" fuel through the original pump. I don't know how they did that. Hopefully someone else can advise. You might want to add a hidden switch to the power circuit.... It's a cheap form of theft protection. You also may need a pressure regulator, depending upon the pressure from the Facet and the carb setup you use. Watch out for the exhaust when locating the pump and filter, and routing the hoses. Just as a precaution, on my car I've wrapped the exhaust pipe nearest the filter and pump, with header wrap. It's a stainless exhaust sys, so I can get away with that. Might not be a good idea to wrap a mild steel exhaust pipe. Cheers! Alan Myers amfoto1@aol.com San Jose, Calif. TR4 CT17602L http://www.triumphowners.com/640 Triumphest 2009 http://www.flickr.com/photos/amfoto1/collections/72157626673107235/ -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-request To: triumphs Sent: Tue, Apr 16, 2013 11:01 am Subject: Triumphs Digest, Vol 6, Issue 130 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:23:16 -0500 From: To: Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that iscurrently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and havesuccessfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the floatbowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the tankwill someday be located. To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the locationof an electric FP? 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tankseems good too, if a bit out of the way. 2. Frame or Body mounting? 3. Firewall or inner fender? 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the oldmechanical FP for authenticity? 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. Thanks,Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sitthere" Will Rodgers ------------------------------ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 15:10:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140C4430DE for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob14.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob14.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF1E42A89 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from atl4webmail28 ([10.30.71.185]) by atl4mhob14.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3GKtgOQ009589 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:55:42 -0400 Received: from 8.28.19.121 (jeffn@msystech.com [8.28.19.121]) by atl4webmail28 (Netsol 11.2.30) with WEBMAIL id 17578; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:55:42 +0000 From: jeffn@msystech.com To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:55:42 +0000 Subject: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have been looking around to purchase Justin's valve cover for my TR6. It seems like the only place to buy one is some place in England. Does anyone know if it can be purchased directly from Justin, or maybe some other place locally in USA? Thanks, Jeff N. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 15:25:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A8543994 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:25:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B7242A76 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:18:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DellLaptop (c-98-208-239-81.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [98.208.239.81]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MMkTP-1UTYPp0Z6V-008ObH; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:16:48 -0400 From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: , References: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:30:38 -0400 KZGPPNhBuSIJfiSg4GUchmtlIIzlU1oYBXfErf+hf1hGEvl9Tx C57Q8ldCAi9NHkrUf7p5Or59oKtmAT886GNfr9sNnqbN8DivKn wgc1/IebukH1EpK7DfzPt6Kxguu/gsc/YOEDmg5oz9ZM3HaHN+ X8a7sQjay9Yt2SJ0t8/XK+ecEWdmla48u4H/Ok0k1DGO0OzBw+ SQmUtWWdA5hVydRuxrQN88srFnVjcxqxQ0g0ZAByPbpwy1bjMI UNc8b1dil87VbPuDENH1eWE/Vx0KOF4dRsps6iAPKMXuDvMNHL cmHpwtGyaa8+J0N45VQXb1m98J6Kr8OSfsFxxRb+79RS3wQXUo qrWxxNxlGhR5A== Subject: Re: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think Justin is making the gaskets any more. Bob www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: jeffn@msystech.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:55 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover I have been looking around to purchase Justin's valve cover for my TR6. It seems like the only place to buy one is some place in England. Does anyone know if it can be purchased directly from Justin, or maybe some other place locally in USA? Thanks, Jeff N. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 16:14:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F9C42ABB for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:14:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB8742A3E for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:13:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dragonlairii ([unknown] [96.234.180.202]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MLD00MN1CCB52B1@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:12:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "ptegler" To: , References: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:12:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have Justin's gaskets on a couple of my 6's but I haven't seen his tuff around for over a year now. Recently I stumbled upon another source making silicone gaskets for our LBC's (where he started) and now makes them for several other marquees He's a Triumph guy at heart.... some of you might know him...Steve Downing?.... with the supercharged GT6? gasketinnovations.com I just put one on my TR7 and the fit and finish is perfect. nfi jasc Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover >I have been looking around to purchase Justin's valve cover for my TR6. It >seems like the only place to buy one > is some place in England. Does anyone know if it can be purchased directly > from Justin, or maybe some other place locally in USA? > > > Thanks, > Jeff N. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 17:00:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B651642EA3 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF2242A39 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:47:56 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=ijtAQhXG85UA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=kZ0woY8t5e4A:10 a=wgzg7B3lQixKFGAb71sA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:51419] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/C6-11869-FB4DD615; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:46:24 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:46:25 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: jeffn@msystech.com References: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6: Justin Wagner valve cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, Justin posted on the 6-pack forum some time last year that his current day job is taking up all his time and will not be making the gaskets anytime soon. It is too bad because the gaskets are top quality. He also mentioned the facility where they were manufactured either moved or closed. I guess I am a lucky one as I have them on my 3, 4 and 6. Bob > I have been looking around to purchase Justin's valve cover for my TR6. It seems like the only place to buy one > is some place in England. Does anyone know if it can be purchased directly from Justin, or maybe some other place locally in USA? > > > Thanks, > Jeff N. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 20:22:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B167144453 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plwbeout06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtp06-03-2.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [97.74.135.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FD642AF8 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:10:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost ([97.74.135.116]) by p3plwbeout06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with bizsmtp id Qq8x1l0022Wr24H01q8xeA; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:08:57 -0700 Received: (qmail 10325 invoked by uid 99); 17 Apr 2013 02:08:57 -0000 To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: dave@ranteer.com Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:08:57 -0700 User-Agent: MailAPI 24256 Subject: [TR] Paint overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking at a car with really nice paint, except! there seems to be some very light overspray on it in a couple places. Like it was in a shop where someone was using a rattle can in the same room, and most of the car was covered. You can even see a distinct line where there was something covering the car. Run your hand over the car, and it goes from smooth where it was covered to rough in the overspray. Has anyone successfully removed what i'll call a dusting of paint successfully? And of course how. The paint otherwise, including these areas, is very nice. Thanks! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 21:26:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5855B42B96 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:26:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F47E4042B for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:23:54 -0600 (MDT) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=RC1IVs9BL0YA:10 a=WyR3b-64nE-edG8Q-xAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50864] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 1A/72-15679-C651E615; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:22:21 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: , References: <20130416190857.eacca00412c4e976446146f9b5e47255.ceff8ef326.mailapi@mailapi06.secureserver.net> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:22:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Paint overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here are is an answer, but with some "ifs" and assumptions, if the car was painted with a urethane enamel, and if the overspray is indeed from a simple rattle can enamel or lacquer the overspray should polish of with some light polishing compound pretty easily, as the stuff you are polishing off is much softer than the base coat on the car. If the car looks good I assume the overspray is the same color? or maybe a clearcoat? Even if the overspray is urethane enamel as well it should polish off pretty easily (will take some time and elbow grease but should not be difficult). Anyway, unless it is something nasty hard like por13 or an epoxy primer it should not be a big deal to polish the overspray off, however, without knowing exactly what you are polishing it is hard to say for absolutely sure. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 23:02:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4515E42DB6 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:59:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0386442A09 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:09:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hx10so885302vcb.14 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5VJG/ZE8/m6p1gbJKkFHoSKqE9y7Khjo8u6mpbs6r8c=; b=AHDFGu/VbsytguD2c9fnetFTLfSkNmJpeBt4CzuicnmAh8OpKMb6BlnPCIguTnf/qF PTUZ39uvbPp9jOHdq9ZmfGz1G/eQLKk/gTNQrsOkheKyJjVgChWNL/2iLTeRREhyAV3n iGWKoG6LJTDwkc9MbJhGegzB8ByL49VBu/KwmJEc0l8FU/JKEWkV3t8FQHpdl85OHBZe DWKxJc3DLEPutGQBywHHSWaJGrGASC3J6Vhu9Fy4ILupF8Sf6MFW62yldty0MVf+/3+o Le4/MqUrFKLEcKtFyLXRDILwWdS4BXpdqcxAtmAp5fZBij0z8bUYNo7QilUGaolWFLSc 14RA== yr6mr2797832vdb.37.1366157250987; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.228.72 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:07:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <001201ce3ad8$f38bb790$daa326b0$@net> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:07:30 -0400 From: alan salvatore To: Dennis Culligan Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , yellowtr3@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like trailing arm bushings are going or gone. That allows the trailing arm to torque to one side under acceleration when shifting giving you the " twitch". I've even had fairly new urethane bushing elongate within a couple of years, I went back to uprated rubber bushings from TRF. Al On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > > >drove my friends TR6 the other day and gave it a bit of stick. > > >snip > > >The one thing i did find a little funy was the way the back end moved > around. > > >when driving realativly staright if i drove over say a crack in the road > the > > >back would kind of jump to one side..just a little. no big deal. is that > kind > > >of normal in an IRS? > > > > Frank - > > I have a late 1976 TR6 that I've owned for 24 years. The phenomenon you > are experiencing is what I've always called the "TR6 twitch". It seems to > happen when the rear end "unloads" after hitting a bump or after a weight > shift (like after you've gone around a curve and are straightening the > wheel). My car is in very good kit, as they say, and has a tube shock > conversion and a rear sway bar. I have no idea what causes this and have > gotten quite used to it over the years. I just had some alignment work done > and had adjustable trailing arm mounts installed - these should not make a > difference but we'll see what happens. > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY/ 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 23:02:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387145293 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com (mail-wg0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B74443FC for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id c11so1188446wgh.22 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:49:21 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+pd1cfbjgwm++dmTI7Ewp3ZBE3+Bk9RjiDoJLBKaU1o=; b=lNgd7pA1fG5R4uOwbdt2b8HlZEsjE/tjUwpit0wY2sX8HKCiwnO8wH77tXvGPJx2ww 6tTtq05ckt5wXVB3G6JAscaYTc3ARuB8JJRE4TpzqsyVaOUDk68Jh+Wv454M/8lywrnQ 6ufCCr1h3zYiqHUirW/7fmgCw0u4bnroGJfTAd30OwsjQxYpSXI9HvHA3gLY6KYtbW87 /OzTdA2WAUHgqXecZUImxGCuUC+pTPp43h93R6Z+sN+l4KKgDE7I5+UUNphoIhBdF0hN 8pudKxeQGdCNMFXflK000rUGWfTPKJFNMF1At7Cee/GfNXHLByj9Wam78o1XVSdlzxqe A+kA== hj10mr23544114wib.0.1366174161787; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.87.170 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:49:01 -0500 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Hazard Fraught tools Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is just funny. http://www.kmstools.com/pages/competitor-79 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 16 23:34:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82014445B5 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBC94443C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B70A0CFE for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:24:07 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: Triumphs References: Subject: Re: [TR] Hazard Fraught tools Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I always get a chuckle out of that. Actually something I might dig out is the tool descriptions that Peter Egan wrote up years ago. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 00:33:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1A44617 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154AB44D25 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:48:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QTmG1l0081ZXKqc53TmdZS; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:46:37 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QTmd1l0052xV5no3hTmdjr; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:46:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:46:37 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Andrew Uprichard s=q20121106; t=1366083997; bh=wmy4uu6/8mcUnqHnJIhTRSZ/MxsLgeTHQYY2AZrYSZA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=L1gts9Mf57XuFZxiSudPLMlzizGJ8BNDwGjuYwxNtqVqzaPgBc7aLl1VKl8sDUKU8 pB0U4KhuoXI5gRv4vVQRQLqI1qVvmlFVGXRlnD6+vIK4a5uzcXUIC62TOH4u6cd6hJ ck5NhHxpGb+Phshq7Po156+AgpBEf9J1fzNJ86++RkpBThK4mK4BYOjs1K7s3KCHah nRi32jM6lxaNYJ61Is+yewlLLdpggDmIQ91npU3GlVKsdFjoy8M34+iuxya2hviNyZ iXnM8SefFuzQcgJJzN3Bl+7hfFdQmOr81XAhjtPcI4pWLfT4uaETDtfzx6WwCWGsQv rWVu7kbGRmL4g== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Contact Art Lipp, lipp04@yahoo.com for a bushing system that's easy to install and works! NFI and all that, Ed Woods ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: glemon@neb.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:23:42 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Reminds me of the three little rubber pieces which support the wiper motor on the TR3. B Not sure that I've ever managed to put them in without slicing them first. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of glemon@neb.rr.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:21 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Good to know there is a commercially available product that works for the bushings. B I tried the ones from the Roadster Factory and no combination of warming it to make it soft lubrication force and finally some trimming could get them in. B I am by no means the best mechanic but am pretty dogged and persistent. I gave up and spent much less time fabricating a couple washers welded to some steel tube. B Has worked fine for a couple years. B Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fogbro1@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 00:34:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283D144650 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2A42BDB for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QiKV1l0081smiN4A2jKWnX; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:19:30 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QjKV1l00r2yr1eL8gjKVgA; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:19:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 19:19:29 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Joe Curry s=q20121106; t=1366139970; bh=CNPCGw6pBoIeCBp72isqKiqh0nuJL+zxGPxxRfwM5JA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KzbKjTamoyxY85MiUDdImDbXvDsqRGn4xClJflp3lbrpZjJRu33eZNf3mRdATRmK9 wvKImXh7x3HUxJeapR4ePwVwMK755EH6AsZ7K1ZZD11WVV7R9BT9DfuWPtjy7ABEbM JgGw5ybe7W8qOOF6rDdU9lSmHlufGl7klFTHmmNYapzao1dHB1pRg+5K8KgRjzmwbR vMZsB6LVHFvdL3Gv42slmN0KJLycxnbzWNJ8zNw9PMHaP8j6Ef8IBtR2Asx0kC6SvR GH1maECy+7codE9VUgAa4omSy/+cV8c7cmxenWMRTe+zs/q7cZP6vxteZIPVxW49dE C9H/hrFzGv/BQ== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Holley fuel pump in my TR3 vintage race car and the thing buzzes and vibrates obnoxiously loud. Even with standoff rubber isolation mounts. I know that the Carter pumps are loud too. I'm going to switch to a Facet cylindrical type pump as soon possible. I've been told that they are very quiet. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Curry" To: wbeech@flash.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:19:19 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Whatever you do, be sure to shock mount the pump to keep the vibration from being amplified by the body or frame where it is mounted. They are loud enough without helping it along. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wbeech@flash.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:23 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that is currently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and have successfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the float bowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the tank will someday be located. To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the location of an electric FP? 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tank seems good too, if a bit out of the way. 2. Frame or Body mounting? 3. Firewall or inner fender? 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the old mechanical FP for authenticity? 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 00:51:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3C74458D for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-03.shaw.ca (smtp-out-03.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F83B4257F for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:54:14 -0600 (MDT) cv=KbdnvV9g8TRf6O+NCh6TOyF5LS0weEPBhaAycnKeCs0= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=4Q6HBbdW1emqG1Rr1IhTmw==:17 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=P6u-zf5sAAAA:8 a=wKoReRRKHiqhbwC5JB4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iLe77_yOYO4A:10 a=nz4IxX-7-W8A:10 a=0nZNNg8R_uAA:10 a=BKDzEdTT9fYaaTVYb8UA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=YAaMCe2DV0oA:10 a=EZWHJaoWwAdxXO8o:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO British) ([24.71.140.216]) by smtp-out-03.shaw.ca with SMTP; 08 Apr 2013 14:52:22 -0600 From: "Len Drake" To: "Drake Len" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:53:23 -0700 Subject: [TR] British Car Upholstery Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks - Moss' annual Upholstery Sale started last week and runs through to May 3rd. This is the sale that many of you have been waiting for. Drakes British Motors will be honoring the sale prices offered by Moss to our Canadian customers. To come up with our Canadian price we do the currency conversion (2% this week) then add 6% to the US sale prices which helps to cover freight, brokerage and taxes to get the product into our hands. I'm not aware of any other Canadian supplier that even honors the Moss Motors sale, I think they must like the price reductions so they can put some more coin in their pockets. This sale covers seat kits, carpet sets, panel kits, tops, tonneaus, boot covers, some steering wheels, shift knobs and side curtains, so if the timing is right for you, we have some incredible savings to pass on to you. As most of you probably realize, we adjust our prices every Monday morning to bring them into line with any currency changes. This means that you will continually get your best prices on all your British parts requirements from Drakes. If you would like a quote on any upholstery item, just send us an email and we will get back to you immediately. You can get all of the sale prices at www.mossmotors.com We suggest that you order early, as many of these items will sell out quickly, and later orders may end up backordered. Here are just a few samples of the sale pricing: #244-315 MGB Carpet Set US Reg. Price is $ 234.95. Your cost $ 213.80 Cdn. #641-120 MGB 1962-67 seat kit US Reg. Price is $344.95. Your cost $302.35 Cdn. #639-380 TR4A-TR6 carpet set US Reg. Price is $289.95. Your cost $266.75 Cdn. #489-070 14" wood steering wheel US Reg. Price is $289.95. Your cost $235.40 Cdn. #642-640 73-76 TR6 Black Seat Kit US Reg. Price is $ 584.95. Your cost $ 537.80 Cdn. #640-120 TR6 black Vinyl Top US Reg. Price is $ 369.95. Your cost $ 303.45 Cdn. #246-270 MGA Panel Kit Blk/White US Reg. Price is $ 314.95. Your cost $ 272.15 Cdn. #242-655 MGB 71-80 Vinyl Top US Reg. Price is $309.95. Your cost $285.10 Cdn. We really appreciate the support of our customers from across Canada, and will continually strive to earn your business. Cheers, Len & Scott Drake Drakes British Motors Inc. WWW.DRAKESBRITISHMOTORS.COM phone 250-763-0883 fax 250-861-8051 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 01:51:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A068842915 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569C342B96 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.20] helo=mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1USMwW-0006Yi-R9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:38:12 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan20.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1USMwM-0007dD-9I; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:38:02 -0400 Received: from webmail13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.13]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id Qve21l00J0GubkA01ve2e0; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:38:02 -0400 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=RC1IVs9BL0YA:10 a=E3QiBnBL9OFbni1Sin0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=5nPN8ZtB+u9sgRkupnaTZQ==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1USMwC-0003pq-SY; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:37:53 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:37:53 -0400 i06.secureserver.net> References: <20130416190857.eacca00412c4e976446146f9b5e47255.ceff8ef326.mailapi@mailapi06.secureserver.net> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:37:53 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: dave@ranteer.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Paint overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In my garage/ shop, I am the cause for getting paint overspray on my TR6. I have found that using one of the clay bar products easily removes the overspray leaving the car glass smooth each time. Greg G. Osseo, MN > I'm looking at a car with really nice paint, except! there seems to be > some > very light overspray on it in a couple places. Like it was in a shop > where > someone was using a rattle can in the same room, and most of the car was > covered. You can even see a distinct line where there was something > covering > the car. Run your hand over the car, and it goes from smooth where it was > covered to rough in the overspray. > > Has anyone successfully removed what i'll call a dusting of paint > successfully? And of course how. The paint otherwise, including these > areas, > is very nice. > > Thanks! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 06:32:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EE442BE3 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bear.ext.ti.com (bear.ext.ti.com [192.94.94.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CE442901 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dflxv15.itg.ti.com ([128.247.5.124]) by bear.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r3HCNm6E021156 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:23:48 -0500 Received: from DLEE70.ent.ti.com (dlee70.ent.ti.com [157.170.170.113]) by dflxv15.itg.ti.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r3HCNmmV005130 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:23:48 -0500 Received: from DLEE12.ent.ti.com ([fe80::b01c:958e:1aa:d17f]) by DLEE70.ent.ti.com ([fe80::c4c6:f618:54e7:ad11%28]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:23:48 -0500 From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: overspray Thread-Index: Ac47ZmhzUl6D9NkgRZeYfGYbWr9Ebw== Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:23:47 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [128.247.5.50] Subject: [TR] overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave: There are two ways that I have successfully removed overspray. One is to apply a product called Acryliclean, found at body shop supply stores. It is specifically made to remove greases, contaminants, and oversprays. It is virtually effortless. A coat of wax will be required where the product was wiped onto the surface(s). The other method is to use a clay bar, wiped gently onto the surface(s) using copious amounts of water to allow the clay to glide. You can usually find these at decent auto parts stores or online for sure. If the clay sticks you are either pressing too hard or you do not have enough water as a lubricant. The clay will pick up the overspray. Periodic kneading may be required depending on how large an area is affected, and a coat of wax afterwards is recommended. I use clay bars about once every 6 months to remove contaminants from tree sap, bird droppings, acid rain, etc. before polishing sequences to obtain show shines on the collectables. I believe that you will find both methods far easier than you could have imagined. All the best, Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 07:49:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE44443A5 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:49:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201A942912 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id R1b31l0030ldTLk561b5Tq; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:35:05 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id R1b51l00S2ymm843Q1b5PS; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:35:05 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: triumph list s=q20121106; t=1366205705; bh=SOEHm6qsTuej8KLx73iWU2mntryW51wMF++QC9DzS+U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=EuL5kUAkrhDy1ZtNybqABBtdibe0169+SmE6Y8f7Atr9N1ae0nGNJ5nWXbjh5X2Xk pGqPHxK181idOtJ7QXUD77D6l/l51edg0gEZVDG6h4onzX0wdRUycfukLD4oLn5MN3 SQD8ecIh1+EmonItjyXEq4xd6ziwBja2lPFA+ZHPADBuLyypOHcuuapA9Eizetll2N c0TgtNYp3sgkSIQa+sxiPVzh6t4zgBu+eTGAXJsLKJuMGS5Ux70TJCHwkdSK/yQaku hNm/0QNfwlRntL3fdfBPEwurGqZjq4e7U75HEIEA4Y14TfhxQUgqm0kDRREBRw3zGF n03Zt5WUOtniQ== Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I've had the same type of fuel pump on various TR3's and TR4's for over 50 years. Never had a failure, and, if I did, it's mounted right on the side of the engine in plain view and can be reached with a 1/4" drive socket, not from underneath the car, close to the gas tank, where I can't reach it, and can only look at it while waiting for the recovery vehicle . It's very quiet and does not vibrate; at least I cannot hear it above the normal engine and exhaust noises. It requires no wiring or fuses: has no wiring connections that can corrode, get oil soaked, catch fire, B or fall off. It has a glass bowl in which to view the presence or absence of fuel; a built-in filter; and a priming lever. If properly installed, it doesn't leak. It does not present an additional fire hazard, requiring an inertia switch B in case of an accident, because itB ceases to pump fuel B when the engine stops. It was made by AC of England. Well, at least this series of email exchanges didn't call it an "upgrade"! Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 08:06:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D60443D2 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:06:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26964314B for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:55:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130417135326.FYWC18627.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:53:26 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id R1tR1l00F4qRjhw011tRCr; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:53:25 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ztTQNk9Qo4wA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kjXKgPSIkunuzDAdgIIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Fisher, Ed'" , References: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ED8A365@DLEE12.ent.ti.com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:53:40 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac47ZmhzUl6D9NkgRZeYfGYbWr9EbwADBCrQ Subject: Re: [TR] overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using PPG acryliclean for many years and I can safely say that it will not remove paint. Think about it, the product's main purpose is to remove grease, tar and other foreign matter prior to applying paint. If it would remove paint, then it would not be good for final preparation prior to applying more coats. But if the overspray is some sort of undercoating, it probably will be good for that since most undercoating is made from some form of asphalt. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fisher, Ed Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:24 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] overspray Dave: There are two ways that I have successfully removed overspray. One is to apply a product called Acryliclean, found at body shop supply stores. It is specifically made to remove greases, contaminants, and oversprays. It is virtually effortless. A coat of wax will be required where the product was wiped onto the surface(s). The other method is to use a clay bar, wiped gently onto the surface(s) using copious amounts of water to allow the clay to glide. You can usually find these at decent auto parts stores or online for sure. If the clay sticks you are either pressing too hard or you do not have enough water as a lubricant. The clay will pick up the overspray. Periodic kneading may be required depending on how large an area is affected, and a coat of wax afterwards is recommended. I use clay bars about once every 6 months to remove contaminants from tree sap, bird droppings, acid rain, etc. before polishing sequences to obtain show shines on the collectables. I believe that you will find both methods far easier than you could have imagined. All the best, Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 08:07:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCEB4449D for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:07:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8357E42BA4 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:00:07 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:17 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=RC1IVs9BL0YA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Jpl8DgHxH-Pqg_PPtksA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XAGiGgPVIee80nnKbLQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=-PxPJhxN7bm_Jg0H:21 a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 64.121.239.224 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [64.121.239.224] ([64.121.239.224:51052] helo=[192.168.1.131]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id E7/25-22205-68AAE615; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:58:31 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:58:30 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [TR] Paint overspray Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try a clay bar. One time I parked in a restaurant parking lot for a club event. When we came out a guy nearby was spraying his house, wind blowing in my direction. The clay bar worked really well but I never got it all removed from the top. Allen On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:32 AM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > I'm looking at a car with really nice paint, except! there seems to > be some > very light overspray on it in a couple places. Like it was in a > shop where > someone was using a rattle can in the same room, and most of the car > was > covered. You can even see a distinct line where there was something > covering > the car. Run your hand over the car, and it goes from smooth where > it was > covered to rough in the overspray. > > Has anyone successfully removed what i'll call a dusting of paint > successfully? And of course how. The paint otherwise, including > these areas, > is very nice. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 09:56:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9701144941 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:56:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1E842B8C for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:46:48 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=2KZcXjmeYZsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=QcZ6lny2zaQA:10 a=pI5oePHVKlKB9aDLeewA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 46/1F-02984-883CE615; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:45:12 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'triumph list'" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:45:14 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac47ck6FZoOCTt8JSImpcPUtPIxxEgADr6CQ Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > It has a glass bowl in which to view the > presence or absence of fuel; a built-in filter; You forgot to mention that the filter can be cleaned and reused indefinitely, instead of needing to be replaced every year or two. My luck hasn't been quite as good (or as long) as Ed's; but in almost 40 years of driving a series of more-or-less decrepit TRs, I don't recall ever once having a trip interrupted by a fuel pump problem. Only a small leak now and again, like when I found that the original diaphragms don't stand up to MTBE (and ethanol). By way of contrast, I had only owned my Stag for a year or so, when the electric fuel pump abruptly quit and would have stranded me if I didn't have a spare along. I also have fond memories of riding with a buddy in his MGA, and thumping the electric fuel pump (through the convenient access panel behind the seats) to keep us going down the road. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 09:56:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F54744A85 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:56:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f177.google.com (mail-ia0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6558542CCD for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w33so1528720iag.8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:46:44 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=3n3nOkvQN23NF7xbfFkop+6af/oSeMQC+Swko9hbQ5I=; b=zaAmSNk4LIA3K5hPlOmXYN3bJTagZ2RIxpTq3u6AmD3WqPinD66w0Jih2mPO2xwGa7 8VkTl9soDf+jBHAwWFxgYwnBTXsvWWhZ1pjntrGCrxbWZjUJmlrQEtBMDBpd1h0tKmy9 SqFfAifmh5BDQovNmC4X+YJWSmjVXiK7Z8WCPm/W3LxlMxwVV/OFxE5QGM1s9g+PSchR WPEMJFfaRlPC0vwUFscuNEwg0C9fWkOfwOcgzZQZQAPtGATS7UzME8U/7hRrdF51RdWU 1w0kjIjGFAyj2Zc/bDCtpyDe3otFnldkEzOONE5G2kCFQAUOGqzk5wtlgxRlYSMx0AKL AdaQ== dq5mr10731315igc.22.1366213604432; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home (c-98-223-25-190.hsd1.in.comcast.net. [98.223.25.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm7737780ign.2.2013.04.17.08.46.41 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Will Daehler" To: Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:46:35 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac47gbnsv2ffRL95RBatDfAXJ+qXoA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] HVDA conversion Day 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am stuck, in unfamiliar territory. I have a TR4, and am using a bent fingered TR6 pressure plate with lightened flywheel of very uncertain pedigree. Shouldn't there be some dowel pins on the flywheel which would serve to perfectly center the pressure plate? I am dry fitting them together, I have six holes in the pressure plate lining up perfectly with the tapped holes in the flywheel. but pressure plate holes are oversized clearance holes. None of the extra smaller diameter holes in the pressure plate line up with any of the extra existing holes in this flywheel. Please advise, should I have a machinist balance and drill me some holes for dowel pins? Or is this plastic clutch alignment tool supposed to work a miracle? Will Daehler 63 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 10:26:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE5744A6C for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F329A4294B for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:16:30 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=6wyXl6gx0XkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=qWO8YCtezf8A:10 a=tYFoWARCkMuNu6hNvuIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A1/A5-02984-E7ACE615; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:14:55 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Will Daehler'" , Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:14:56 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac47gbnsv2ffRL95RBatDfAXJ+qXoAABIRtw Subject: Re: [TR] HVDA conversion Day 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There should definitely be two precision dowels to locate the pressure plate to the flywheel. Given the uncertainties of using aluminum flywheels anyway, I might be tempted to just replace it, rather than trying to have the machining corrected. Who knows what other flaws are hiding inside? The plastic tool is only for aligning the friction plate to the flywheel (and don't work so well for that either). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 11:47:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A300944C12 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:47:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C204B42E1B for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:42:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DellLaptop (c-98-208-239-81.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [98.208.239.81]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfWD5-1UCke53Tzv-00PAO0; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:40:41 -0400 From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Will Daehler" , References: <002a01ce3b82$bf0b0200$3d210600$@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:55:13 -0400 /BiW4ClkQCiX0xRFKTWLnVNTU34HUwIChjyktPTJ7AEiHgfs/E Ji1DeEddOsDZuvQ0Xewl5V1WfwLIg5YFhrsSlMlnYkQfwnJzRu 1JaM25Xm4m7kPSL0y86SOLCICrLUhzIZM5df97FK8tRXtcbynt x/OuQhRNUmoxRnBgaJLRqNyDXdBbsxLQ38ZJ1RrtnQpYgeJZYs EPMHEK6ddBcljA2wJ+MbN3C0LAyS3gZLiT18rLRENTeuGhu4Ih xhnpW5K8yvGXgJ5MgHM6r24uYAJfBWiDHAStI7lo+bd8nQJCAA eWw4ZE1s2TxEvbdKyj2NARv4wpZP0Xkw5a/m6tlmkak+pjnMVR e0zTff8TchR/w== Subject: Re: [TR] HVDA conversion Day 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's my whole write up on the HVDA installation. You'll even see a link about the "locating" dowels. http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/5Speed.htm Bob www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: Will Daehler Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:46 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] HVDA conversion Day 3 I am stuck, in unfamiliar territory. I have a TR4, and am using a bent fingered TR6 pressure plate with lightened flywheel of very uncertain pedigree. Shouldn't there be some dowel pins on the flywheel which would serve to perfectly center the pressure plate? I am dry fitting them together, I have six holes in the pressure plate lining up perfectly with the tapped holes in the flywheel. but pressure plate holes are oversized clearance holes. None of the extra smaller diameter holes in the pressure plate line up with any of the extra existing holes in this flywheel. Please advise, should I have a machinist balance and drill me some holes for dowel pins? Or is this plastic clutch alignment tool supposed to work a miracle? Will Daehler 63 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 12:33:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A642544CA6 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AC644BBE for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2013 18:05:21 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.124] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2013 18:05:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2013 18:05:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 93345 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2013 18:05:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366221921; bh=ldmc9/COEuTR4RE0JK8+79XgSr33aA2iIkpkC2G0ZRA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZC+PaJNwR7JbxrUA7B+7QhK1cWUTC6F8Qnw1FE7ZYCJO3mAfSp2Cv2JRFXF+9kEN9R4KgIs53ftMORuv78IljL6ZzjzkIWkW17akVBKh93IjBmEwbNWljgrmFmNphJ1BsfxBc/6vpiqlbTp8HkYfzI7BeOLN5RxLQLg/voKqXWA= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EQIYN9LjjSjNkIwcuYaQpaEIiEAxDFxjgyLSnFCsUaH1hGYXf83EVwy+i/L++adhndsKkmjsBy9122cveSkMrX8/YaEwLzqzQXA9/aoZu3eMeIQSfEfgx0Yvo5i47ZkdkyqkMWRfTm7zyvepPjD6LvbA72kuYJMkH6Eyci+bYv8=; JC4nI_JKuEXmV4vKsuiOO.xBLbZ49f4okUVnMhdlBtk7JfbhTy7XdDgFhzpt Pp2xKbbWVdxW.eat4_pfg_6JFPpRyHWsBjzyPuppxVifbAxiiWtKZMqwNo4r gF0p9rTurBkA.E8K1LkcmCLfNZC_4uvH98jfYSyXtx1.U9Btk7BnfkZA03av fTB5QOjVfwT029k3E0M0qHxG6xb9jbNJWVoeWQE.uO7pE6NddOowVxBWI_yM ENzXyRoNW_jM6yXrblg5ZR.vdD7Bi2l.580.GoGOzTwx2WAl2Rd5Dn3rpYT_ 6xMqiKB9s0u7.s7NRuYT3jb39SCm7vIcgMF58Qy_.NOpCrDG_7C30li.NwGx 8i3Tkou2JrmLEGuC06D9YbvMGOUvQ08fGrrp7XOTSDwUTMFforo8Lxp1bM0Z Uej2hCZM7X0qCpX8.TI4VZDaA.ixeVl3EQyEwJkOOBXmfOwZ1.NMl6VurXUf WnW3_DkReRQ-- Received: from [98.242.54.12] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:05:21 PDT wqAgwqAgwqBJIGhhdmUgdHJpZWQgdmFyaW91cyBmdWVsIHB1bXAgbG9jYXRpb25zIG9uIG15IFRSM0EuIEkgcm91dGluZWx5IGRyaXZlIG15IGNhciBoYXJkIGluIDEwMCsgZGVncmVlcyBpbiB0aGUgc3VtbWVyLCBvZnRlbiB3aGlsZSBjbGltYmluZyBhIDQsMDAwIGZvb3QgZ3JhZGUuIFNldmVyYWwgdGltZXMgSSB0aG91Z2h0IHRoZSBjYXIgd2FzIHZhcG9yIGxvY2tpbmcuIEkgaGFkIG15IGVsZWN0cmljIGZ1ZWwgcHVtcCBvbiB0aGUgbGVmdCBpbm5lciBmZW5kZXIuIEkgZGVjaWRlZCB0byBtb3ZlIGl0IGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs , Bill Beech Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have tried various fuel pump locations on my TR3A. I routinely drive my car hard in 100+ degrees in the summer, often while climbing a 4,000 foot grade. Several times I thought the car was vapor locking. I had my electric fuel pump on the left inner fender. I decided to move it lower and mounted it down on the frame below the firewall. It was hard to see and get at and whenever I changed the oil it got all over it. It also got coated with flung oil and road grime. I didn't like it in the trunk either. I ended up mounting it on the underside of the trunk floor upside down. If I want to check it out, I do it with the wheel off when topping off the lever shock. It seems to stay clean and cool and gravity prevents vapor lock. I used to have a NAPA parts fuel pump that ran really smooth and quiet. I accidentally broke the wires off it at the housing, which is the only time the TR didn't make it home on its own power. That was when I had it mounted on the frame at the firewall. I replaced the NAPA pump with a Facet pump and that thing periodically hammers like a jack hammer and I hate it. It also vibrates a lot even with rubber mounts. Next time I am in there I am going to put in a NAPA pump again. Good luck and drive safe. Bill in Tehachapi From: To: Subject: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have decided that I am going to use an electric FP on the TR3B that is currently under construction. Right now, I have engine in frame and have successfully had a couple of test starts using just the fuel in the float bowls. Next step is get the fuel lines installed back to where the tank will someday be located. To that end, I was wondering that the collective wisdom is on the location of an electric FP? 1. Engine compartment seem logical to me although just south of the tank seems good too, if a bit out of the way. 2. Frame or Body mounting? 3. Firewall or inner fender? 4. Mount in former mechanical FP location? 5. Anyone able to hide the electric FP and route the line through the old mechanical FP for authenticity? 6. Any other tips on usage or connections? Any advice or cautions from you who have BTDT are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 14:21:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C16E42986 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from moose.dimebank.com (moose.dimebank.com [108.68.51.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1704398D for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:13:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.dimebank.com [127.0.0.1]) by moose.dimebank.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r3HKBg8M012062 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:11:44 -0700 From: Chris Kantarjiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My long-suffering TR4A came to me with a replacement mechanical fuel pump and a pretty bodged engine-compartment plumbing setup. One of the first tasks I undertook was to recreate the hard lines per the manual (I couldn't find a source for the pre-made parts). Then I got to discover what many other TR4A owners had learned: the factory setup leads to vapor lock and hard starting when hot, because the fuel line is in the primary heat soak area above and behind the radiator. And then I experience the classic fuel pump failure, where the cross-shaft comes out and lets the actuating arm drop into the sump. That was way too much fun. Lucky for me, no damage was done. The Competition Prep manual suggested mounting the electric fuel pump in the driver's side rear wheel well, which I did: I put a cylindrical Facet pump on the vertical panel that rises up from the floor to the rear bench, using the rubber mounts. I used as much of the original on-frame plumbing as possible; I installed a toggle switch under the steering column as a kill switch and an in-line fuse. I think that locating the pump near the fuel tank is a good idea, because these pumps really do push better than they pull. I had some experience with these pumps from my GT6+, and I decided that I wanted a filter and regulator. I was also flirting with Italian cars at that time, and they tended to have electric pumps in the rear with a FISPA filter/regulator in the engine compartment. So I mounted one of those on a blanking plate where the original mechanical pump was! I also took this opportunity to run the fuel line to the carbs behind the engine, away from the radiator. This part of the car, at least, has not given me any trouble since :-) chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 17 14:54:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7883B44E5F for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E5A4299A for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id q15so323330yhf.4 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=wuGWfJcRr2H1RArOke/yfYkNKIkcDEmwK+THMUg16sk=; b=TIA2u6v2igSIVhAsLbAuHuAkchNsrdSX5Ip6n9YSCc/v92dPPXpMm5jI0ogaKt2yqM w3unVH81du29OfNADLMVDKqpY2bvzVNPNvYKiBx5SpHricCkWcewqMEiFXjEf8WgGbNH 04yHpaR3hsfFaW8g4cMN6/JLJUzAKJ1rhfulNYy+HTf4mVVCOVb88C7BeyRSIFLNASqd bAkv2f5ccwC8zr+agqHqVxH/cwB3+TJc/KwOV9Ns2AkITV3F4lJIYcZeHghgTIxPDzgO gFaDG5RXy8KeWg7L0eUSWRiA79LPbO9U8bfXezOC9uFlkBrK9ulBp4aKpDRWHwJTIB76 0AyA== o65mr5133071yhc.76.1366231366759; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.111] ([172.221.52.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u43sm2854556yhi.9.2013.04.17.13.42.45 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:42:41 -0400 References: <516F0200.3000109@dimebank.com> To: Chris Kantarjiev Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fuel Pump Placement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, in the LBCs that I have owned that had electric fuel pumps (i.e., MGA, MGB, & a Midget), they were all mounted in the rear near the gas tank. I never had a problem with any of them and I owned them all many years. John > I think that locating the pump near the fuel tank is a good idea, because these pumps really do push better than they pull. I had some experience with these pumps from my GT6+, and I decided that I wanted a filter and regulator. I was also flirting with Italian cars at that time, and they tended to have electric pumps in the rear with a FISPA filter/regulator in the engine compartment. So I mounted one of those on a blanking plate where the original mechanical pump was! John Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 TR3A http://wisegroupllc.org/_/TR3A.html 1977 Porsche 911S ('86 3.2 engine) http://wisegroupllc.org/_/Porsche.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 18 19:43:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81A842DC0 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BA642D41 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130419013926.WSOA6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([71.90.219.141]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id RdfS1l00Y33eLpB05dfSTK; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:39:26 -0400 a=6u3I5JZzQIMPIMpZ5D+5wg==:17 a=QTFOEh9fAJMA:10 a=FyWKtUj-bhkA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=TTp5JTy-josA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ltPjbRhVxAEcUZaCAscA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=6u3I5JZzQIMPIMpZ5D+5wg==:117 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:39:30 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <20130416012033.JWJGD.55299.root@hrndva-web16-z01> Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Accelerator shaft bushings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/15/2013 9:20 PM, glemon@neb.rr.com wrote: > I tried the ones from the Roadster Factory and no combination of warming it to make it soft lubrication force and finally some trimming could get them in. I am by no means the best mechanic but am pretty dogged and persistent. I got mine in. Perhaps you needed to hire a sailor to do some swearing for you? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 18 21:38:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E160842CB3 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:38:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B43427E0 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 21:38:16 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=JLgBNCPakh8A:10 a=GTymDquaktzT8S3cqnkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UfOylOjt4VAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 15/74-02984-0CBB0715; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 03:36:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:36:38 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac48n9Yc3M4r7BXkQ7GNXCv8wnNI/QADv2hQ Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid Yahoo Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Messages from 166.70.156.34 temporarily > deferred due to user complaints - Mebbe it's not Yahoo ... Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 18 22:54:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A7942C22 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74CC42BC4 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:54:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFDEA0CFE for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:54:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:54:45 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: 'Triumphs' References: <15.74.02984.0CBB0715@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid Yahoo Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall wrote: >> Messages from 166.70.156.34 temporarily >> deferred due to user complaints - > Mebbe it's not Yahoo ... > > Well since Yahoo seems to have no facility whatsoever for me to find out why it is happening and what I can do to stop it or just contact a real person, I'll keep claiming Yahoo is stupid. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 19 11:47:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BD640540 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD8840323 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:47:03 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=m4vJwSQg4s4A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=JW0BWM3a3XkA:10 a=nNMuLFVYBsgJChWpga4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=qUApSTT9uABK5FbI87kA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=3A8Dv_dJDJhMref2:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50678] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 79/17-14235-8E281715; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:46:16 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:49:10 -0400 Subject: [TR] Question about installing a backup light switch in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Is there some way of installing a backup switch in my TR4A transmission without drilling and tapping holes or whatever..? I keep forgetting to ask this. I saw that Moss sells the switch but I have no Idea where it goes. Thanks, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 19 12:05:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C22429E9 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2CD4293B for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:02:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id t1so3916871lbd.24 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WKOQIts2Zddvu8hhd/GY2rEW3azNeaySz/9Ixe66Mhk=; b=ZJUM81ta5RqAMoPb8fwR6hi9eF0djYR6dV1n+iUPZeB1O8hO6p0jnN925S0sRtM4tH VAUrc60XDFo9HHtsx5P2NTDuBSRSY9T9dFNCmXa9gCs26RVmVhVVvv64JmPgyYSWWqE/ f72/UyXPKiZT4BaQGLRwYTGZxofoAsnTAKEfPfNd8XsJCPJASfH1mB0SsdwPBiS7+f2G f5v+1RtmeY1GnKHdG+WQdBcbm9gRL1QyfZXAB5sjtx2QgHYyylxwrGhBK9qVc+oGumb5 2sgzrxB4HfNKrmXYF65jO2WlIt2Y7F87VSRIWc8N0lfWT+iIBrdQMG6lWq8zLiQ9iZeu nlTA== pu13mr8538784lab.48.1366394485005; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <15.74.02984.0CBB0715@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <5170CE15.4040802@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:01:24 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Stupid Yahoo Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wonder if its another case of reporting spam by accident vs deleting.... On Apr 19, 2013 12:52 AM, "Mark J Bradakis" wrote: > Randall wrote: > >> Messages from 166.70.156.34 temporarily >>> deferred due to user complaints - >>> >> Mebbe it's not Yahoo ... >> >> >> > Well since Yahoo seems to have no facility whatsoever for me to find out > why it is > happening and what I can do to stop it or just contact a real person, I'll > keep > claiming Yahoo is stupid. > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 19 13:02:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971DC4006D for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03A440042 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:03 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=9TMvB2wR2OIA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=AAujsK2bE4kA:10 a=dPCTImkwC0x3H7ftUdgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:56485] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3C/3B-25887-B7491715; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:01:15 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 15:01:15 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Dave Connitt References: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Question about installing a backup light switch in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, You might want to see if you can source a TR6 transmission or just the shifter portion. It has the switches you need. I see 6 transmissions for sale on Eban and CL all the time for 50 to 75 bucks. Bob On 04/19/2013 01:49 PM, Dave Connitt wrote: > List, > Is there some way of installing a backup switch in my TR4A transmission > without drilling and tapping holes or whatever..? > I keep forgetting to ask this. I saw that Moss sells the switch but I have no > Idea where it goes. > Thanks, > Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 19 22:27:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D9A40544 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BCB40543 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:26:32 -0600 (MDT) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=9TMvB2wR2OIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=AAujsK2bE4kA:10 a=3W3pXTVR5zUtmYuFXgMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54856] helo=livingroompc) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 90/EF-17243-6C812715; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 04:25:42 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" Cc: References: <5171947B.4090802@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 23:25:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Question about installing a backup light switch in a TR4A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The switches are not too hard to install, just make sure you get the drill bit centered with a punch when you start, then you need to tap it for the right size threads, I think I got a set of three of the right size taps on e-bay when I did the overdrive switch on mine (same idea, different location) so if you decide to go this route let me know, I have two and maybe three of these taps I will never use again. If you choose not to go this route you could do something like I had on my BGT way back when a simple on/off switch under the dash to turn on the back up lights, if you are doing it to be seen you probably the manual switch isn't the way to go (you'll forget to use it half the time), if you are doing it to see better when you back up (long dark driveway or whatever) which was the purpose on my BGT, it works pretty well, cause if you can't see when backing up the light bulb goes off in your head and you turn it on. Course I often people would honk and flick their headlights at me, doh, forgot to turn the back up light off. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 08:03:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBFA42976 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 08:03:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472E3403EC for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 08:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY173-DS20 ([65.54.190.59]) by bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:02:50 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Greg Lemon'" Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 07:02:32 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac49z7PK7HyBBsoiTXqwu4Hr8M4LUQ== Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[BE82F0A0:01CE3DCF] Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Help - I Need a Vehicle Inspection in Garden Grove CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My dad bid on and won a 1969 Jag E type in Garden Grove CA last night. We need to do a vehicle inspection Today/Tomorrow AM. I can drive out or fly out from Las Vegas to do it, but would prefer not to. Is there anybody on the list who lives nearby that would be interested/qualified to do an inspection? We'd be happy to compensate. Please call me if interested. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting 702-882-6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 13:24:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B354242ACB for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40A40531 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170128pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MLK00MIDJ74C971@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.101.255.163 ([71.101.255.163]) by vznit170128 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:23:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:23:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] speedo/tachometer repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What is the current recommendations for gauge repair. I tried emailing Mo-Ma but it bounced. Thanks C Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 17:50:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0927D42AF7 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD5342ADB for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:50:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.6]) by m1plsmtpa01-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id SPpL1l00608GceW01PpLGV; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:49:22 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Carl TR'" , References: <12547736.1552520.1366485808993.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:49:31 -0400 Thread-Index: AQG29gJx1DC1tlL3EogLDBaTue0mPZkOVuvw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] speedo/tachometer repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my fifth restoration and always used Nisonger in NY. Never been disappointed. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl TR Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:23 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] speedo/tachometer repair What is the current recommendations for gauge repair. I tried emailing Mo-Ma but it bounced. Thanks C Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 17:53:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFFF42AFE for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8C342ADB for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.100.6]) by p3plsmtpa07-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SPsf1l00908GceW01Psgee; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:52:40 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:52:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4+IcbuFku64PzFToSCGMUJGcjSmA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: Just got around to stripping the latest restoration project and have a question. This TR3 has an attractive aluminum gas tank, but the breather tube is broken where it attached to the tank itself - the banjo bolt was lying loose and there is a hole atop the tank. If the gas cap has a hole in it, how important is it to have the breather tube? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 17:54:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD94F42AFB for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7837F42ADF for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 17:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DellLaptop (rrcs-24-172-52-68.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.52.68]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKYUJ-1UTypc3H3X-001cmX; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:52:50 -0400 From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Carl TR" , References: <12547736.1552520.1366485808993.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:10:08 -0400 z3rO3DsjeQgc5BcT/53oc0iVrvA4lHsxDF3zM4bgT6mjf3ilNg XCmcfn2OCweIJ/jMViOpw2cfI9LJBcwRua8vbt3zojfSh55uDn HcE59qK2pQe7DjWt7a7j1RQ6LQdi10D14rLW7496qdwQcFLo+7 dWOQYQZnB8CFQZzIRbYti1HCTfR0XXuFY9l6Go4Fmem4ghL/gh Ztt4cN+IIT3OpeaiusoCYHv6Oos70GXKgH9qcCpu6iDZOYZFC2 wEMkOjanovpuiPmdYw0ldkvmjs/E2Ph6DrhLVSuAUeMiIbPGxF ymZwmKX/X10DSFDOE/W6WrM+D3OGTsDngPJOjMHVD Subject: Re: [TR] speedo/tachometer repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The 6-Pack gang have mostly moved to Morris at West Valley (http://westvalleyinstruments.com/) for great work, fair prices and fast turn around time. Bob www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: Carl TR Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:23 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] speedo/tachometer repair What is the current recommendations for gauge repair. I tried emailing Mo-Ma but it bounced. Thanks C Carl 1961 TR3A - TS81802LO mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 18:08:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC0E42AF5 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0215442ADC for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 00:07:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.7] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 00:07:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 00:07:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366502837; bh=U9jTI4b8rc6lgXVfmwiQzolCwhCInO4TLK9SWgQv1vA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=Uy1azoBzbQhuGD1nrUNsIh8ZJ94zPlzKdOZcfF9/zB3JMNHieg9opT5XuHc2hySfAQT5z76FJmOTOZyS9BE0A0Vk23D53bU0anShDQcQ80Bu0PZ8OFTkiY1Iz5I6dYF/vbx8jPHESvMDl4jK7OpbpcVzOumRoQhZtvQGIdArqJ0= 4S_1Q7MXoc6bVfDtd_PqBBm_idIsGD4swzzIRFqZVcitYqWmPks8fuYsS6No D0huAbjENl.uAoPlk6sAgOpygCE9S0UkvRYrQscYNnwHid.2j_DyCP2PqHLL rvjK1CBsb2H5pZpXKt0F8odUf2i_MrcbTiCnaguUSa0xPA1rJajZKKrPeRRy 9RbrHy22DhHNv3gJWhUHHty.vPYkKGxLWACrO9NKNJRzEQKSYT9HV2jxmbVN KCyZUIdWszIVRJPavJpBHxXK0kvM7mJ9d1K4XxN6v.xmih3bgt0reXePOP33 yJjOOYMQsHD.ZTmO.w44LE5T3gIB3R98MzMw3urFybtxyN2sJ55FvfiqaUJq JIW3QiSabusinS.IRqusotNWIMYLYlowRHaH9dSAFAX6MnjWp3FRopA56ztk CqYyl_4w5pDsxe276z4P8y1_XQ05d8XiYZpYxGKArP4QXvziDfelSdA_3SPG ShOPWRSkmZ0Wm.4vPWWsYF20- smtp107.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2013 17:07:17 -0700 PDT References: <00b201ce3e22$2b7c4e20$8274ea60$@uprichard.net> From: WBEECH Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:06:33 -0500 To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Your gas cap has a hole in it? Must not be stock. If it is vented, the breather pipe should be unnecessary. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, "Andrew Uprichard" wrote: > List: > > Just got around to stripping the latest restoration project and have a > question. > > This TR3 has an attractive aluminum gas tank, but the breather tube is > broken where it attached to the tank itself - the banjo bolt was lying loose > and there is a hole atop the tank. If the gas cap has a hole in it, how > important is it to have the breather tube? > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 19:41:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C03C42AF7 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout15.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout15.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F3440528 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.15] helo=mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout15.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UTjG6-0005ku-0p for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:40:02 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan15.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UTjG5-000382-U9; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:40:01 -0400 Received: from webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.12]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id SRg11l00i0FcvPu01Rg1bM; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:40:01 -0400 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=ZZ9ul2euWMwA:10 a=Pv7yakty08Oiha-mxTsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=OTd7mDdtQPObUePB2dKGCw==:117 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1UTjFl-0008WB-OX; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:39:41 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:39:41 -0400 References: <00b201ce3e22$2b7c4e20$8274ea60$@uprichard.net> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 21:39:41 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Andrew Uprichard" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the gas cap is vented, the original vent is not needed. The old vent hole should be sealed to eliminate fumes and smell inside the cockpit. Greg G. Osseo, MN > List: > > Just got around to stripping the latest restoration project and have a > question. > > This TR3 has an attractive aluminum gas tank, but the breather tube is > broken where it attached to the tank itself - the banjo bolt was lying > loose > and there is a hole atop the tank. If the gas cap has a hole in it, how > important is it to have the breather tube? > > Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 06:26:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF3E4292F for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:26:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70CD4292C for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:26:11 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ZZ9ul2euWMwA:10 a=0yk14ETmAAAA:20 a=8ORNnyZGAAAA:20 a=KdDcV1PnHxIJMoJcW18A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pNKITEU7128A:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55011] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 08/FB-04559-BAAD3715; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:25:15 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:25:26 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac4+JD38Gp9lq13MR8KDma73vnD1EgAZbxSg Subject: Re: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Your gas cap has a hole in it? Must not be stock. Every TR3 cap that I have had, had a hole that appeared to be original. Including the one kindly sent to me by a lister after the original got stolen on my previous TR3A. Not through the chrome part, obviously, but the inner plate that actually covers the opening to the tank. http://goo.gl/y5uCn And I've been blocking off the tank vent since about 1975, when I noticed that it dumped raw fuel onto the road when turning left with a full tank. No apparent ill effects, even running at full throttle for extended periods of time. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 10:51:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D5840426 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91610403F2 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:47:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Sc4r1l0021ei1Bg55gmiG1; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:46:42 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Sgmh1l00j2xV5no3kgmh02; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:46:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:46:41 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Randall s=q20121106; t=1366562802; bh=/PiNbDjgHN6Ri20oiHMCzipgVOBf56xehOiXivuW8eM=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iR9cW8BS4piOgkHARBaZW7epG+zTam2jLPWafqRh+C8R/lNV8Sw93k0GSTGGA82km hftgtHf5PvLZFlca4CUPnnsmOtw1ni+/qCs60zyPzP/GZBYcWePUtYO3TRZ4D6AKcU i8Idrnv9I6CYM/tORLg0BapeTU/lXv8kNZOliXeovuFtgj+ZOThlsUcYdAIJC6NH7D R8xurcLfh0jsUH+aMm/edxzWLgKbB/jrgjZ8xiJ6TzXix9kPMf95F8i8yzoj9rD2cx PV6VZfxGkkgIpKn8lDBdjbAAsalXPz4pV1Y1aq13YfS1X9ZZt6n7L65CwyvQai1/Wy jwSkZIQI8029g== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- Randall, There you go again, confusing us all with facts again! Ed > Your gas cap has a hole in it? B Must not B be stock. B Every TR3 cap that I have had, had a hole that appeared to be original. Including the one kindly sent to me by a lister after the original got stolen on my previous TR3A. B Not through the chrome part, obviously, but the inner plate that actually covers the opening to the tank. http://goo.gl/y5uCn And I've been blocking off the tank vent since about 1975, when I noticed that it dumped raw fuel onto the road when turning left with a full tank. No apparent ill effects, even running at full throttle for extended periods of time. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 11:36:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDDF42CBC for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7612042C67 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Shaw1l00953lu5001hb0TU; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:00 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 12:34:52 -0500 Subject: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have 3 batteries, and they are ALL heavy!!!!! one came with this car, acquired a few weeks ago, dated 11/11. after charging, my multi meter said it had 12? volts? donbt remember exactly. second battery is one Ibve had for a few years, but worked in another car a couple months ago. charged it all night. third battery is out of my honda. die hard, probably a couple years old, no issues that I can ever remember. the first one turned the engine over, no plugs, as if the battery was very weak. the second turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very weak. third one turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very weak. after hoisting so many batteries in and out, I am very weak. Ibm thinking itbs a starter motor? should get it tested/rebuilt? could it just be a bad ground? I should get down there and clean all the contacts? most lights work as does the horn. ammeter looks like it works. no history of the car. was told it ran when parked (didnbt they all???), was told it had been in storage many years; car was restored at some point, is rust free as far as I can tell, but very dirty just from sitting. TR3B ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 11:54:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC2D42B27 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4FA42B11 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id el20so4831191lab.37 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=PKtXCcFVtdd+qYVQFTOcLICwA5r447bkPtlCXkOn2L0=; b=fpQbgVUlrIYtjBUehtIQGIQi/M6aMfxbjodcWKTu0uK5qjvuGbzx2NFOYp3vqOYyTp 6dKruInbLSzCD8XyRLK/QIVg2JG6jIcV5ntQRAdYlxsyL58G+Yt+SPKcj8/OctBuTSh3 S7Trhpa70O9wSDlnKFxmQXmWzFjh7ZY6RLYNMb0EJdFAZH/EvTyCgdDxDE3Y8CfLRvsB xYiJ5gCilWHoerhAmrgU0wi2G0rjxCparcg6rya9SA4rSsp1JJ9b+Vp1FBV8eGsq7VFF LrfhzjWAZFC76jvSC3uuPx+bbbk6/UmHYNGCEszy6jMZ75iHp2DxXbpZgDhUvrTXsu2p FLqA== Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.187.20 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:51:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <1F07FDF8CEED45919B40BB189BFD7F6C@Datsun> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:51:51 -0400 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net sounds to me like one of the brushes in your starter may not be making contact. I just helped a friend clean and refurb his starter (TR3). Cleaned the commutator and replaced the brushes. Starts like a champ now. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dave wrote: > I have 3 batteries, and they are ALL heavy!!!!! > > one came with this car, acquired a few weeks ago, dated 11/11. after > charging, my multi meter said it had 12? volts? donb t remember exactly. > > second battery is one Ib ve had for a few years, but worked in another car > a > couple months ago. charged it all night. > > third battery is out of my honda. die hard, probably a couple years old, > no > issues that I can ever remember. > > the first one turned the engine over, no plugs, as if the battery was very > weak. > > the second turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very > weak. > > third one turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very > weak. > > after hoisting so many batteries in and out, I am very weak. > > Ib m thinking itb s a starter motor? should get it tested/rebuilt? could > it just be a bad ground? I should get down there and clean all the > contacts? > most lights work as does the horn. ammeter looks like it works. > > no history of the car. was told it ran when parked (didnb t they all???), > was told it had been in storage many years; car was restored at some > point, is > rust free as far as I can tell, but very dirty just from sitting. TR3B > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 11:56:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C90A42B5F for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:56:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD6942B11 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:56:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ha11so1020982vcb.30 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TEsg4NY2CjajlnCwd1OWKlR4HhAcM/sx8/3rseDuLe0=; b=j2liASGlb7U22PLpEiz0AHnlnIjCNRE8HWwSRY140zFhBQrYXeEC+133W6us3SPKZE AKh8BMZkLu0UMfzlylJ+rhB9ZhsGg6lWw1FyvMhcuCqcQvQ4r+eNVGFQYU786mSoRkpz g936F5YJ17DqCBpA5WWTBdAIOiYffsM/niUmXA04Ih1fDwNb9GqfR2KPKKJuRDSI3ZuQ 8CEfbTk3abM+2uaG8UUScA8QdHYLGFYr6GChB/J9jQ19e6cxnCEIVac9IiLA+SpFFJiE FF+zWtZjcKi5atqovGswd2H+zo0W5T+u6pQZRS0W6I/vhTauHYNgjceUwQZyGP3jpuA3 qB2A== jw2mr14422140vdb.69.1366566946349; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.67.79 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <1F07FDF8CEED45919B40BB189BFD7F6C@Datsun> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:55:46 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You might measure the voltage of the battery as it is cranking the engine -- that can tell you a bit more about it's condition. 12V after charging is a bit low and, in any case, doesn't say much. The auto parts places can load test your battery. I wouldn't start taking things apart until I was sure the battery was sound. Geo On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Dave wrote: > I have 3 batteries, and they are ALL heavy!!!!! > > one came with this car, acquired a few weeks ago, dated 11/11. after > charging, my multi meter said it had 12? volts? donb t remember exactly. > > second battery is one Ib ve had for a few years, but worked in another car > a > couple months ago. charged it all night. > > third battery is out of my honda. die hard, probably a couple years old, > no > issues that I can ever remember. > > the first one turned the engine over, no plugs, as if the battery was very > weak. > > the second turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very > weak. > > third one turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very > weak. > > after hoisting so many batteries in and out, I am very weak. > > Ib m thinking itb s a starter motor? should get it tested/rebuilt? could > it just be a bad ground? I should get down there and clean all the > contacts? > most lights work as does the horn. ammeter looks like it works. > > no history of the car. was told it ran when parked (didnb t they all???), > was told it had been in storage many years; car was restored at some > point, is > rust free as far as I can tell, but very dirty just from sitting. TR3B > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 13:58:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBCE4040D for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48C340544 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 19:54:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 19:54:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2013 19:54:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366574050; bh=IKRTti4BjZkTaX/rLbTxGav4paBCBBvYVk2SdqkiDUM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=gw6Vs6CiRMSxueDNHZOMaZdghGpRmvGq9gv2LUwX3YbZGYo4zWfcJd7ep+foLBqFiH8DjpMxkv4MYvmXU5Tx7j/Ve4U9Ps4njkMVuJNrm2zeLClQrRdcFvkwXEZGqd9VM/Ez/wEMJhf96MNaw+x8170ctI5MZsK2IXkDAE+WHhc= G7gmvzEz1eB_9kPB6paa3i3.OVYQEcYnAja7nr2bCpJOsXhnQtTYDt1pDyFf JYQsI3IAdHqV5Mwv6b6om5awGIuWX07ciQ2lSeTsPgRvqwK5VdIz.SnUYxK6 UTluRTZqzps4vBAKiXM0z7y976f3XMIDtrDjelE9D6GxKGZIRO4EW.Xovnla _g_3zHmh1cODfDec8CkGnUC2lEl00YLSx4XG8QOSZRPLNigdIg95SATUGGgE _f_Etn.kgBtAEAawwtQKeHrrJSR4yCrXGb0wlZZHVLMRwj4fmjSsxur_NEWc 7k8JeDBN_J7IhLLZZTDPh_KQBVQ3k3zqoQJXYeCW7zNlSkU3O2MBdOGcKu7B JIWh90aKAiU401t9vj_2vaoKxqiEXglNQW8xDaqi5N95o6H0fgAAPOpJuN9P 8c8fLtzBgeOxRi6mo1Ghy7.GWeldw1obCSuMtZmS_gPnWyws5FUIZjPaigN8 oIRll6fXlgtDsTEWpXLmqjPlbFCCKq9ROO5J3aIRnSqil309C1PlFIWuULUQ b6.NmJor3xXLFQX.027bxouhOJCc- smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2013 12:54:10 -0700 PDT From: To: References: <1F07FDF8CEED45919B40BB189BFD7F6C@Datsun> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:53:55 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4+uYYZ56lkr5GLRECYIDqCtRPeZQAD74Kw Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Are you trying to start it with jumper cables from the battery to the car? I had fresh 1 year old battery, but running good heavy duty jumpers from the battery on the bench to back of the starter and to the engine block as a ground yielded results much like yours. Moved the battery over to the car with good cables securely bolted in place and it starts like a champ. One of many possibilities, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:56 PM To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? You might measure the voltage of the battery as it is cranking the engine -- that can tell you a bit more about it's condition. 12V after charging is a bit low and, in any case, doesn't say much. The auto parts places can load test your battery. I wouldn't start taking things apart until I was sure the battery was sound. Geo On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Dave wrote: > I have 3 batteries, and they are ALL heavy!!!!! > > one came with this car, acquired a few weeks ago, dated 11/11. after > charging, my multi meter said it had 12? volts? donb t remember exactly. > > second battery is one Ib ve had for a few years, but worked in another > car a couple months ago. charged it all night. > > third battery is out of my honda. die hard, probably a couple years > old, no issues that I can ever remember. > > the first one turned the engine over, no plugs, as if the battery was > very weak. > > the second turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was > very weak. > > third one turned the engine over, plugs in, as if the battery was very > weak. > > after hoisting so many batteries in and out, I am very weak. > > Ib m thinking itb s a starter motor? should get it tested/rebuilt? > could it just be a bad ground? I should get down there and clean all > the contacts? > most lights work as does the horn. ammeter looks like it works. > > no history of the car. was told it ran when parked (didnb t they > all???), was told it had been in storage many years; car was restored > at some point, is rust free as far as I can tell, but very dirty just > from sitting. TR3B > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 14:42:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E903428A9 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCED4054F for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.138]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 18F5E70009FC7 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mec001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mec001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.46.193]) by mtaomg-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E9736E000081 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:41:06 -0400 (EDT) From: WCA09@aol.com Full-name: WCA09 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:41:06 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1366576867; bh=1zhLkVMTm6QNnpM1qMFQflKK8OPx1Qx4cO7a5UsLztE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=upwcb9A/ARUKDXEDzAq/aYv35j3bG9Gz7MzADOCf3BLPpvmSRY/BdiAH6C1+HlBEA N90aXP2H3nzzBjj+9yeJ7pRrCGr+eHwtMWaxD7d0eN5UFj8kZU0VFw+N24GqZ+VZMN igWz8dl9OfGhy1G52ByBExnXBG+Mv9FJp4G2dmoI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338a51744ee25cde Subject: Re: [TR] Gas tak breather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall et al, Just checked what I believe to be an original gas cap on my '61 TR3A. The cap is out and disassembled for rechroming. There is no vent hole on the inner plate nor anywhere else that I can find. Just an FYI ... there are apparently a number of versions out there. Bill >> Your gas cap has a hole in it? Must not be stock. > Every TR3 cap that I have had, had a hole that appeared to be original. > Including the one kindly sent to me by a lister after the original got > stolen on my previous TR3A. Not through the chrome part, obviously, but the > inner plate that actually covers the opening to the tank. > http://goo.gl/y5uCn > And I've been blocking off the tank vent since about 1975, when I noticed > that it dumped raw fuel onto the road when turning left with a full tank. > No apparent ill effects, even running at full throttle for extended periods > of time. > Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 15:31:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4202D428A9 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:31:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEFE4051D for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SlWK1l00153lu5001lWKlW; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:30:20 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <1F07FDF8CEED45919B40BB189BFD7F6C@Datsun> <9AFED428A9A2432D9183542414B1DEA2@bboffice> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:25:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net no. each of the three batteries were in the car. -----Original Message----- From: wbeech@flash.net Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:53 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Are you trying to start it with jumper cables from the battery to the car? I had fresh 1 year old battery, but running good heavy duty jumpers from the battery on the bench to back of the starter and to the engine block as a ground yielded results much like yours. Moved the battery over to the car with good cables securely bolted in place and it starts like a champ. One of many possibilities, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 15:32:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A462C42851 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CEB403F3 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SlXg1l00K53lu5001lXhAS; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:31:41 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "list Triumph" References: <1F07FDF8CEED45919B40BB189BFD7F6C@Datsun> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:31:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net (of course) youtube has a video on rebuilding/refreshing your starter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHQJDhxZc0 I wonder sometimes if I could learn brain surgery on youtube . . . -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 12:51 PM To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] starter motor? sounds to me like one of the brushes in your starter may not be making contact. I just helped a friend clean and refurb his starter (TR3). Cleaned the commutator and replaced the brushes. Starts like a champ now. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 21 22:15:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BF542B68 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47844299F for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SsDo1l00353lu5001sDoqV; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:13:48 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:13:50 -0500 Subject: [TR] remove starter motor tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net now that its unbolted and loose - it looks like it has to come up? which means I have to disconnect the linkage between the carbs, and the gas line? choke? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 07:06:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4AD42C0B for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1558A42931 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:05:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ht11so3878427vcb.41 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ilOteSGl+352iTnom57j3vspLGL/wZWbcfXZIxBQT6U=; b=NtnUbVLt9hrJvSjpQb7UzbtUzLkutUukxkPFhjBQvHbv2f9X36fEN5ijzgr0yckWQQ xSbCiJCtpI9muLI9pbjilWbn8pfzt+ip/2tFfuMqVD79PI2ypajxaUtrIUvce+m22dvP yug0zXjJDp0wIDjiYLCaQJ+5QxOvKRfTTcdY3VK3q8TbNq4FYwJh4DxJdVOZzNtBTC7l hYandwcSuEQBVRYzjFrfPEob34xIR3jSU/5HOmK2WgAv8fzYKxx5jab2E451qGaKoH7q sYiAVHf/bHTnoS+fQnZGPG6ieC4CABxCuXctr5L2xTUr0pcCAXrLIAxNzijE8EMuoliQ XQOw== cd5mr19121089ved.14.1366635866436; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.67.79 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:04:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <38A7BEF13610438F86BDDC6E8B6A6C5E@Datsun> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:04:26 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Dave Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] remove starter motor tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I usually undo the front connection of that (choke) rod that connects the jets and let it drop down. That also frees the choke cable. Connecting fuel line and air cleaners also off as I recall. Probably a bad habit but I just grab hold of the big cable and lift it out tail first by that. Geo On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Dave wrote: > now that its unbolted and loose - it looks like it has to come up? which > means I have to disconnect the linkage between the carbs, and the gas line? > choke? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 08:15:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0735042CA9 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8358F42C6D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T0nj1l0051ap0As5D2EVU0; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:29 +0000 Received: from [10.242.63.29] ([174.229.196.53]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T2EH1l00719cNJN3i2EKWd; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:14:27 +0000 To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:14:27 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1366640069; bh=hz/uVbmZ7N9Ntp/SD/98CJ/PTx4HojWHHyhEqQamvXQ=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k7mMB30wPUZ0tVGTwXAaNXSUL8pj70gNtTaurVocgVrvl2jAuxheXaFh/Li+4cJ9/ SzW+Q6uwv7u7AZoFfZpM4R9desrr3F6XGZIV2W0/9juERj6chx/12wTBu7u35QDpli uCJQT00J3TO0SYIv14srjEuOV8Q+mS7g+kWPJAkZ0DhUbpZ6wfnmY6d/hzKS+XapJu peNHKNYefjASOEbGxlI3crcvvPrnymSecd5XphRvNg9nMV9e1akKQoa02xLaJBumTW P5aCCoJymMnM0ASHo/LMoETXfGA3I9RszPJhurUkqmaW/7kF3KTwtPXcBR77qE8s6Q Ua/+dXp+2FMqw== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?remove_starter_motor_tr3b?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net First, remove the left rear wheel.... Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave" To: Subject: [TR] remove starter motor tr3b Date: Sun, Apr 21, 2013 23:13 now that its unbolted and loose - it looks like it has to come up? which means I have to disconnect the linkage between the carbs, and the gas line? choke? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 08:22:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC78C42D76 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9213542D64 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.119] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 14:17:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366640257; bh=SzmMsHIDlUQr/mxQ8cS+K244/mK9+Sny60Pp+oXUpUk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=LGKmhuCZ4QpByk1TS+dA7qMPMWbRPndZvC/SWYrGCq9rQCTYX6/ccrsLaJ99XOBGdu+EcXneSH35UqXAKoQkk7PQG/Hf8vg5DMRisw6yXwl0ADEqKjoNHoX6CBWvk5klLR1wlLcjaQrBFo2dvRlIocCyUBRPn9edlPJdByOto8k= FzSFANlDY8uktTXVK7crAU.5XfuXf19zliTynK0VIObHwg0LOM.AjIYbjR8O d0H2wTO.X47R2st8i0jor4MViUn.tzD0E51QuSrkQzScTy1x.KrhtM0zgop6 uP.zi0keK2fyYNczo0JIrN_wYPpn9Lx7fGALA5QVjqtp5Urj32W0tVHw.XOl 1VtevCVgl5OZ7YmNZ8TZStlh9rGWyxRQxVwUPnOxIuM0K0QmL3LEQE0eqbh. IK3oRm6EOGC9r7K_NSCsXNPCXxqQ02HCmmGrJVbScjij5W6zildCPXgjcHxg ga_mdTojxtTvWv0eIWEWG1E1zzOE5CZUvFfgyHgcT8AOD1LtYgRQIVJS1yV4 _JyVde8B.ZJRjIG._zdt3qsReFK83adX7ByJxMtvXFxSBfLeV_Mzp7TJy7LM tU0rS99Yji4N_Hqo4QDG33rjhD2gkkkVhXImL1u_rPrz9zRJs0TtQrO8uF8l VhzJEYXT1.I97sHQQKcyqjsqgByNajjuL_ifHloFmVjeK6SMYjRJctGx60dX rgCbbWNO0ypFd5D4jyKEv5OofUg-- smtp114.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2013 07:17:37 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Dave'" , References: <38A7BEF13610438F86BDDC6E8B6A6C5E@Datsun> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:17:20 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4/D/eDSL3oQuvMQkusaQCsHpsJ0gAUymgw Subject: Re: [TR] remove starter motor tr3b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just remove the nuts that hold the carbs, put a towel on top of the motor, and roll the carbs up there without disconnecting the choke cable or any linkage other the the lead arm. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:14 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] remove starter motor tr3b now that its unbolted and loose - it looks like it has to come up? which means I have to disconnect the linkage between the carbs, and the gas line? choke? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 10:24:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926DD42DD8 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:24:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C40842B17 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 16:19:52 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.147] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 16:19:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2013 16:19:52 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366647592; bh=h0+WfTZNwyVHE6jkZzyRNVbZ2Ys8Bd5HrI4dL5KHHSA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=kH1NbFPe1lnkUICBdFo//l0rMlC/OKj+9eBEzsVaTzw4FliYjKVLQPKWiaTnYrugIOXYF2MJJFFZIJq75r/c1LRluQqz2zntxaMLs10hDshcs+GHTJujA7Rc5SyYc53DDToHDOOr1IW/t7pdXimNF46QfLBLQKHEgCtW7x/agH8= HGNd2ghScRuispk1ql80aoxVBPmdspnu15zlGaIxv7lVsqA0MAGHqvbVWhXs zLc3YaaumvAhM2jVohxu4flUGzNzitgMBe4FxQpM5Y05smW2nVBhxrg0er6w 0fuKb3GzlrfVbjUyyT7LphvNSA6xqAPc4SijdT1wjdrRfCEkREATVG4ghNFD vVZZeKOzjmnC9aizz9b2MZ42Vw3P3jt90iwVQBua44T4TjdYOEnegwQ9EZxq FZmmqjBRkD1lt7kF8_Eak7nk6x7wf5_gDnxikxyb4w5j8wE0djAsm3Y3Mxyz 0afI_9cyq1VVgZXaHBgo7ljHbDAfFQmjTi7L2aG6eQum.4r8pn1_02ELN9lN cEXEeHUW9kTNAPTgoeaI7LyQoHR2EGMNUM6wyc12VxLZ3W_CiRdoCYoj4Uhy 2WVgnmZs2r589kbW8YHI8kwvMk4txoUPNmeHT3Kc5jI5tnA-- smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2013 16:19:52 +0000 UTC From: To: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:19:23 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4/c4kruj3UZjvITEWO/Bk4T809xQ== Subject: [TR] Anyone in North Houston that can look at a car? (Non-TR) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to bomb the list as this is a non-TR project. My daughter is looking at a Mazda on CraigsList that looks like a good car at a fair price but we are 6 hours away. Is there anyone close to Gulf Bond Rd off I-45 that could take a quick drive and assess the car? I would be more than happy to comnpensate for time and expense. Many Thanks, Bill Beecher 435-503-2258 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 10:34:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC5942D74 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8056A403D0 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Syx11l0041GhbT8534ZVUF; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:33:29 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T4ZV1l0062xV5no3T4ZVEC; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:33:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1366648409; bh=t87pHEj5Zh1xn89hjELaGm/S+OtA4KdF+7zwQ/Oj21I=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=lv+guFRl89OUEvj/w2t3/YrMbm1Sdbu4rMvi2y4eODImYpP79xeZewO4J9PYBCxjP nBN3rEK40I+PRzNAjo2GIZJF9Sx/1YgU9GUvrxEYH0E3Tig74IqXN1Msz7na6ondu3 QMYcHQOcMHK160kqb77MKI0itsv80aRVaAmzbPj9253xQ/7jtF3f10sxiw72QfdGgs cFdVs6D0Y5Q/9DFHEqSYjkESbuT2BtkgO+/36QOOBtAyK9cE3guxX3vQ2XLhOSnvly Zw6swPApTqP+25hY2s6nAHqlA/G9coyc1CgOfVktqtInJ+J0AvGHVisI1eusUrvtc5 KXg2ShOyEChIA== Subject: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a TR4a with the stock seats.B I find the lack of upper back support tiring on drives longer than 45 minutes.B I see that Moss-Europe has "Classic Seats" with a headrest which fit the TR4a-TR6 range.B They have "regular" and "high back", and the difference looks to be maybe 2" in back height by counting the pleats on the back. Moss USA has a "Classic Seat" listed for the TR6 which is looks to be the same as the Moss-Europe "classic seat", not the "high back" version.B Has anyone installed these seats?B I f you are 6" to 6"-1 and are over 200 lb, how do you find the fit regarding kidney support and height? The cost of the high back seats, shipped from England looks like it will be about $1550 including shipping.B Do es anyone have a guess about the import duty that will be charged?B I assume it will be another $200 or so (price of the s eats is #777).B If these Moss-USA seats are the High back version, then I would definitely get them from here.B I find that some seats on new cars hit my shoulder blades in just the wrong place and are quite uncomfortable, so I probably need to have the "high back" version. It would be nice to have the opportunity to sit in these sats before I buy, but I bet there are few and far between. -Tony ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 10:35:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C0342D74 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:35:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB4142E12; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU153-W23 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:33:32 -0700 From: John Henard To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:33:31 -0400 FILETIME=[20AD75E0:01CE3F77] Cc: "spitfires@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Coolant Sediment Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Morning Lists, Anyone have recommendations for removal of scale/sediments for small piping, intake manifold, t-stat housing etc. when they are off the car? Vinegar soak is the most common treatment I have read. Suggestions? I have had the radiator boiled by a rad shop but had other parts off while doing some repairs. It is for a '71 Spit that did not have regular flushes (yes - shame on me). Thanks for the help, --John Henard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 13:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021E540405 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14642DED for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T0161l00216LCl0547XWRw; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:31:30 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T7XW1l00f2ymm843S7XWiq; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:31:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:31:30 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: Dave s=q20121106; t=1366659090; bh=LddUa7sLDGwEzlLfFm3lT9J6YlXNXKq+ohsGXT26LE0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=H5g9nmBQdSqrrE+zAO72pi9her5i5iSpF6XqYznO7KrRuQ79tFh1cD2fu6bwAd9hO xOP2mWVWgsnb1bSTEQ+zppFNLvwlHvOchbhNa8GQrSiRPU1rdTHEHxReFi2NZsPu1k gNHcrIrsz75lrpLaJPJV1+LCD4+4sKaDTgv0B8CUWRbHsw0Bcf6M1FumI2VyC1K80U 0hftWFgPE3/Y32KjVeZSgq07AEUC07rjgt4g7cXxnSwNwoGzMBEB+wO5coDpxMU5uu Wi+jGIzT/jY6CW6opug/ssR7RRykXIU+pqRyJMgHRLGO1nyhioeLIB4CcUGpD6pZ1w y1vk29W/Vq0kw== Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, I had considered Miata seats. They do seem to require a different/custom mounting frame and extra holes in the floor pan. I have not seen any seats that are in good shape and have the right color (black, preferably white piping). But this is a good suggestion if I can find the right seats. -Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" To: spamiam@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:51:26 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 why donbt you put in miata seats? many tr6 people have done this. I believe the early miata (1990?) had speakers in them as well. -----Original Message----- From: spamiam@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:33 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 I have a TR4a with the stock seats.B I find the lack of upper back support tiring on drives longer than 45 minutes.B I see that Moss-Europe has "Classic Seats" with a headrest which fit the TR4a-TR6 range.B They have "regular" and "high back", and the difference looks to be maybe 2" in back height by counting the pleats on the back. Moss USA has a "Classic Seat" listed for the TR6 which is looks to be the same as the Moss-Europe "classic seat", not the "high back" version.B Has anyone installed these seats?B I f you are 6" to 6"-1 and are over 200 lb, how do you find the fit regarding kidney support and height? The cost of the high back seats, shipped from England looks like it will be about $1550 including shipping.B Do es anyone have a guess about the import duty that will be charged?B I assume it will be another $200 or so (price of the s eats is #777).B If these Moss-USA seats are the High back version, then I would definitely get them from here.B I find that some seats on new cars hit my shoulder blades in just the wrong place and are quite uncomfortable, so I probably need to have the "high back" version. It would be nice to have the opportunity to sit in these sats before I buy, but I bet there are few and far between. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 14:03:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD3E42E5E for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.172.220.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065D140416 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-34-69-85.ptld.qwest.net [71.34.69.85]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MLO00D21AAF3Y40@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:01:33 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-22_06:2013-04-22,2013-04-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304220190 From: Darrell Walker Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:01:26 -0700 References: <23844766.1191532.1366659090433.JavaMail.root@sz0135a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: spamiam@comcast.net Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:31 PM, spamiam@comcast.net wrote: > Dave, I had considered Miata seats. They do seem to require a different/custom > mounting frame and extra holes in the floor pan. I have not seen any seats > that are in good shape and have the right color (black, preferably white > piping). But this is a good suggestion if I can find the right seats. There are at least two different adapter brackets out there, that won't require you to drill holes in the TR4A. Check out Mr. Mikes for new covers: http://mrmikes.com/miatahome.htm They are pretty easy to install, and you can get black with white piping made. A few of pages regarding installation in a TR6: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/MiataSeats1.htm http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PattonMiataBrackets.htm http://www.74tr6.com/miataseats.htm -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 16:23:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280A542986 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb03.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271FA42284 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb03.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2013 18:22:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:21:34 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A Starter Solenoid buzzing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It buzzed a couple of times when I started it up for the season yesterday but it did start. Today all I get is buzzing. I'm assuming there's nothing I can do to fix it (tried hitting it with a ratchet handle already so don't suggest that)? Will an ordinary modern starter solenoid do until my replacement comes? I have a modern Trombetta 12V 3-post solenoid lying around the house, I'm assuming I could only damage it and not anything else if I tried it.... Thanks, Art ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 16:48:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973E84293D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2412428FA for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:48:20 -0600 (MDT) a=OXNaCBpqzC7CW2p5d40Q4A==:17 a=zT2MZ3Z28PkA:10 a=9pQWZaV_MhwA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=HaSbq5TU7G8A:10 a=XMAE3ckQCP9IRWBwtVsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=qvkgES8oJslAb4jBCTIA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=YuA9R7a6cczBtGSn:21 a=OXNaCBpqzC7CW2p5d40Q4A==:117 Received: from [72.230.99.20] ([72.230.99.20:2465] helo=user43e68274ae) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 27/BE-12729-4FDB5715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:47:16 +0000 From: "morgan" To: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:47:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Thanks Jim Fuller Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 17:00:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAA242907 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:00:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01254052A for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=JtucBEG2et4A:10 a=MLzsnlX5-wMdCfqiH3oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:38100] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id BD/5D-11869-BC0C5715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:59:23 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:59:23 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, Art McEwen Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Starter Solenoid buzzing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Art McEwen wrote: > I'm assuming there's nothing I can do to fix it (tried hitting it with a > ratchet handle already so don't suggest that)? You might want to check that the battery connections are clean and tight; and that the battery itself is in good shape. It's been awhile since I was inside a TR3 solenoid, but I don't recall it having the "buzzer" (aka pull-in coil) that many more modern solenoids have. Your Trombetta solenoid will probably work OK, if it is intended for automotive applications. The cables might not fit though, I believe most of them use 5/16" studs while the original TR3 solenoid was 1/4". Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 17:08:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A46F42A09 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:08:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231F40C00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:07:55 -0600 (MDT) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=ARZ0bggdI94A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YJ1NlPl5oGEA:10 a=739ZahaG2prXua_s9VsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:62116] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/79-17243-C82C5715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:06:52 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "morgan" , References: <3A43B0BB7F28401397F5B18B0C1B0304@user43e68274ae> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:07:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I did the same thing with mine, I did use heat, after some trial and error and getting it soft but not too soft I got it on there and it has held up fine for a couple of years now and readings as high as 80 lbs of pressure at start up. That being said it is on my list of things to replace, wouldn't want it to pop off and loose oil and pressure. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 17:14:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A174C429EE for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE222403F8 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:10:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YJ1NlPl5oGEA:10 a=5lucXWJGAAAA:8 a=athsd_ZcorI58ojr-FUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:39133] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3E/67-02984-043C5715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:09:52 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, morgan Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- morgan wrote: > The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to > remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. > Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Try this: take a block of wood and drill a hole the same diameter as your plastic line. Cut the block in half through the center of the hole. Lay the line into the resulting groove with the end protruding just slightly from one side, then clamp the blocks back together (so they grip the line tightly). Ream the end of the line a bit, for a slight taper. Now drive the fitting in with a hammer and another block of wood. Or, you might consider just replacing the fitting with a "vibration-resistant" compression fitting from MMC (if the block threads match): http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/177 That's what I used when adding an oil pressure gauge to the Stag. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 17:30:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE15429D3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb03.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C0F4288B for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:30:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb03.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2013 19:29:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:28:32 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Randall References: <20130422225923.69EGY.84385.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Starter Solenoid buzzing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/22/2013 6:59 PM, Randall wrote: > ---- Art McEwen wrote: >> I'm assuming there's nothing I can do to fix it (tried hitting it with a >> ratchet handle already so don't suggest that)? > You might want to check that the battery connections are clean and tight; and that the battery itself is in good shape. It's been awhile since I was inside a TR3 solenoid, but I don't recall it having the "buzzer" (aka pull-in coil) that many more modern solenoids have. Cleaned the terminals and replaced a crack battery connector (new last year) and it fired right up. That's when I found the fuel leak ;) > > Your Trombetta solenoid will probably work OK, if it is intended for automotive applications. The cables might not fit though, I believe most of them use 5/16" studs while the original TR3 solenoid was 1/4". Yeah the posts do look bigger but the leads look a bit bigger then the OEM ones so I might have been able to make it fit. I'll throw it in the boot for now Thanks all. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 17:31:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5E142A09 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:31:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785CF4294D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SyxA1l0050QuhwU55BVwH8; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:29:56 +0000 Received: from sz0135.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TBVw1l00h2ymm843NBVwxS; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:29:56 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:29:56 +0000 (UTC) From: spamiam@comcast.net To: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> s=q20121106; t=1366673396; bh=drbGMcyVGOjF4a5ILt48BTY+2/NGTZHre8pUhiqbfa8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=nncmOERcLnmVvwT4fHcOid3kcc1S0BoZCOQWZwNwnRmtaGiqKSMnV/9c1sao3o81Y YX3MyjkRQl92zIaP0COekmI/mF/70WZNo5IbSXJX+m1ZUDCT5dwtNXj/6JupVQ7JE0 09DW9IWQC16D+wX/I8gzbFMGUwaRt0sdk+ALV7MNbMeVChRJyeZc+IZuRrQ0ExmXGi lpkh0OpTpK3mvlT/zTFdYQZ9247T/cXRd/w7UltE/0GgFjgy4wGgW6Kr8+tGsntH43 iwtPPyV+CklCbYVOwgcZqSSXIIC8s5mgUIDKcQecfpEbEHJ4JYL6XZ4GUsQcW+Vv5/ MR70nQNTi838w== Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, I will have to pick your brain in the future. BTW, I _love_ your website! I will be getting the Goodparts CV joint half shafts this year, and I will be using your article in depth. I will check out your miata seat info. One issue, is I really don't want to sit much higher. I already have to duck my head to see a traffic light when the top is up andmI am first in line . -Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Danielson" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: "Darrell Walker" , spamiam@comcast.net Cc: "Triumphs List" Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:04:12 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 Not so on the Miata brackets with regard to drilling holes in the floor. Order the brackets made by Rick Patton (http://www.pattonmachine.com/Miata-Brackets.htm) and once the brackets are mounted to the floor and properly aligned, you can install/remove the seats in 5 minutes. Everything bolts up to the stock TR6 mounting holes. I was in Florida last week and stopped by to visit Mr. Mike of Miata seat cover fame. He and I frequently work together on my custom interior panel kits and his seat covers. I love my Miata seats! Bob www.TR6.Danielsonfamily.org 1975 Mimosa TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff CVJs And more.... -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Walker Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 4:01 PM To: spamiam@comcast.net Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss "Classic Seat" for the TR6 On Apr 22, 2013, at 12:31 PM, spamiam@comcast.net wrote: > Dave, I had considered Miata seats. They do seem to require a different/custom > mounting frame and extra holes in the floor pan. I have not seen any seats > that are in good shape and have the right color (black, preferably white > piping). But this is a good suggestion if I can find the right seats. There are at least two different adapter brackets out there, that won't require you to drill holes in the TR4A. Check out Mr. Mikes for new covers: http://mrmikes.com/miatahome.htm They are pretty easy to install, and you can get black with white piping made. A few of pages regarding installation in a TR6: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/MiataSeats1.htm http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PattonMiataBrackets.htm http://www.74tr6.com/miataseats.htm -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 19:16:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852D442972 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29CC427A7 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170132pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MLO00L3GOS0B631@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:14:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.241.60.99 ([96.241.60.99]) by vznit170132 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:14:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:14:24 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, If it was me, I would not try and repair it. I had a catastrophic failure of that plastic line at the gauge and oil poured into the car, through my radio, and onto my $600 carpet from TRF. Based on my sad tale, TSI imports made a stainless steel replacement. TSI-TR250 , 3991 , TR250/TR6 Oil pressure gauge line. They are located on the web: http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/ . I tried to get a free one but that did not work out. :) Craig 72 Triumph TR6 On 04/22/13, morgan wrote: The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Thanks Jim Fuller Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 06:11:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F99B403F6 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372EB4038C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 06:10:55 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=ARZ0bggdI94A:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=YJ1NlPl5oGEA:10 a=a61W3YrX6pe4wD64sm4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:57562] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A7/E4-02984-E0A76715; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:09:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:09:51 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: morgan References: <3A43B0BB7F28401397F5B18B0C1B0304@user43e68274ae> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, Forget repair, get the SS line from Ted at TSI as others have suggested. Bob On 04/22/2013 06:47 PM, morgan wrote: > The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to > remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. > Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? > Thanks > > Jim Fuller > Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 08:34:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762D2403ED for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29016403DA for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:34:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU153-W63 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:33:38 -0700 From: John Henard To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:33:37 -0400 References: <0MLO00G0EQRZDO12@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> FILETIME=[8B0BF3E0:01CE402F] Subject: Re: [TR] Coolant Sediment Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Pete,Thank you for the suggestion. I am going to start by cleaning with Costco's version of simple green and then try vinegar. Depending on the effectiveness I will probably try CLR for the final step. Thanks again. --John Henard To: johnhenard@hotmail.com; triumphs@autox.team.net From: pryner@verizon.net CC: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Coolant Sediment Removal Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:57:34 -0400 I just used simple green on my dodge truck eve valve and cooler. Two to one mix (water to cleaner) let sit overnight and it came out like New. Never used it before, am pleasantly surprised. Pete Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "John Henard" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Cc: "spitfires@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Coolant Sediment Removal Date: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 12:33 pm Morning Lists, Anyone have recommendations for removal of scale/sediments for small piping, intake manifold, t-stat housing etc. when they are off the car? Vinegar soak is the most common treatment I have read. Suggestions? I have had the radiator boiled by a rad shop but had other parts off while doing some repairs. It is for a '71 Spit that did not have regular flushes (yes - shame on me). Thanks for the help, --John Henard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 11:20:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4633A403FC for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from sysfx.com (sysfx.com [204.107.12.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312A7403F3 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:20:10 -0600 (MDT) s=MDaemon; t=1366737541; x=1367342341; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: Organization:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Reply-To; bh=3LkF8VvymTKoGpkVOq4T+s/qm34+V3OOoZpdU0xBNDI=; b=SWh 8Ie05PuOqNl+yNu87NAtZxv3nm2rUui2MFHwsetKtBCzSj1uRLuchBCNpyAAWsXA rcCjcJOvL0ltiCB6w2GKQ/bxQF5qSSCwtJC5ioOLzcNOioxmhOphTx3puTP4NtIM jmYwV92T9TixWdNHKEZkZ7INQvUzatUpXiTqkn6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=indiefilmnet.com; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=u9lddXK1W+CGjAcr9MAdmGD1fgCIW081tA5d0S/NVMao2dNvlQ4uuC831Ko1 UQlpaDDVr6uAPGPMGvEest1V9DNAhwiNRXysmYsOm3xc/WAUcZOzEteuC GJ+9m4vPGeUZYrWgLprAQZdFfU2qomQvC1ZnS9WS5B0ePnuCtLtow4=; Received: from MARK-i7.IFN-MTL.COM by sysfx.com (Cipher TLSv1:-SHA:128) (MDaemon PRO v13.0.5) with ESMTP id 38-md50000132580.msg for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:19:00 -0400 processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:21:00 -0400 From: Mark Hooper To: "'thenicholls@verizon.net'" , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Organization: IndieFIlmNet Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I too had a disastrous fail of the line on an old engine. Stuck in hot summer traffic jam idling with low pressure, did not notice that the gauge had stopped reading as all the engine oil drained on the road through the broken end of the pipe. When the traffic cleared, I took off down the highway. Completely seized the camshaft about 1 km later. Stuck on side of highway for several hours in 95 degree sun. End of engine, end of date, end of girlfriend. I really really hate that tube. My solution was to convert to an electric oil pressure gauge. First a cheapy unit from Canadian Tire and then a nice Smiths part from gaugeguys a few years later when slightly lessened poverty permitted. Mark 1972 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of thenicholls@verizon.net Sent: April-22-13 9:14 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Jim, If it was me, I would not try and repair it. I had a catastrophic failure of that plastic line at the gauge and oil poured into the car, through my radio, and onto my $600 carpet from TRF. Based on my sad tale, TSI imports made a stainless steel replacement. TSI-TR250 , 3991 , TR250/TR6 Oil pressure gauge line. They are located on the web: http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/ . I tried to get a free one but that did not work out. :) Craig 72 Triumph TR6 On 04/22/13, morgan wrote: The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Thanks Jim Fuller Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:09:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A5D40452 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:09:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f171.google.com (mail-ye0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5F54041C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ye0-f171.google.com with SMTP id r10so157658yen.2 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:07:59 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=J+mdf5OQ8FGMa83zVFE4vOGXyaeEwx7RhKbpuNN4Jrs=; b=HTmaCdjApF4zUxg92uiftonIUHiNC1Nso6VAkxZkq91IN9Cnvgsb3+0ciaFawnD0T5 UcfWiV0sVDCS6PWbY0hgYmu+UZW84G/li8HuzidFE5BVzn7wMHXYqZ6IhCm5ER76QKNd d8wqub3k5+89T9lessf6hjpzoxmLwk2LWFSkcUFE/Cl+ho8JmT7VqUaTuz+wBgAUVl0M sJ+b9XQhQw9oggKAIu+4mUOEpPqZEEkc8JgH4I6UnBabotToTwmsO56QvMvFehFnGgHN dJd8KExfRtcI0zl2NWxg3ezITl9y0Y55zE9vw1qoTVWFjzXuw1twMt92RTOKMQnBTYQE blAQ== t44mr21760411yhn.73.1366751279161; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip98-180-71-26.ga.at.cox.net. [98.180.71.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c67sm32867yhh.16.2013.04.23.14.07.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:07:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:08:01 -0400 thread-index: Ac5AZlZ4UFIROdE9T0uIHUnJT45Y/g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a modern paint code for the early 60s spa white dashes on a TR4? I had asked before and someone sent me PPG 8335. My painter can't find this code. Is Spa White the creamy white? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim Henningsen 1963 TR4 CT5212LO 75 TR6 Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:09:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EC940539 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712A74052F for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170128pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.50]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id <0MLQ007SH81DHB00@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:08:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 96.241.60.99 ([96.241.60.99]) by vznit170128 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:08:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:08:01 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was really thinking you were better off until I heard you lost an engine. I got off easy.....Craig On 04/23/13, Mark Hooper wrote: I too had a disastrous fail of the line on an old engine. Stuck in hot summer traffic jam idling with low pressure, did not notice that the gauge had stopped reading as all the engine oil drained on the road through the broken end of the pipe. When the traffic cleared, I took off down the highway. Completely seized the camshaft about 1 km later. Stuck on side of highway for several hours in 95 degree sun. End of engine, end of date, end of girlfriend. I really really hate that tube. My solution was to convert to an electric oil pressure gauge. First a cheapy unit from Canadian Tire and then a nice Smiths part from gaugeguys a few years later when slightly lessened poverty permitted. Mark 1972 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of thenicholls@verizon.net Sent: April-22-13 9:14 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Jim, If it was me, I would not try and repair it. I had a catastrophic failure of that plastic line at the gauge and oil poured into the car, through my radio, and onto my $600 carpet from TRF. Based on my sad tale, TSI imports made a stainless steel replacement. TSI-TR250 , 3991 , TR250/TR6 Oil pressure gauge line. They are located on the web: http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/ . I tried to get a free one but that did not work out. :) Craig 72 Triumph TR6 On 04/22/13, morgan wrote: The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Thanks Jim Fuller Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:11:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E6A40445 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E2640512 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED4A077C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:12:13 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Yahoo, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe the yahoo, btinternet, sbcglobal issue is resolved. I'll keep a close eye on list mail to check. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:15:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A2E40521 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A52403F0 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:14:46 -0600 (MDT) a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:17 a=K_HASx86CtQA:10 a=jeJY-ZdqjKYA:10 a=Xyxvj_550CoA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=-pbNhs5WeTYA:10 a=qoVBejh_GLnoSS_ExW0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=iTuw6M2WiDFW56x2NvjMDA==:117 Received: from [67.242.29.1] ([67.242.29.1:36732] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F4/AA-11869-389F6715; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:13:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:13:40 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: James Henningsen References: <002d01ce4066$a4f53be0$eedfb3a0$@gmail.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I have the PPG formula for Spa White in DCC I think. (If I can find it) My local PPG supplier was able to re-create the formula from the code I supplied. I used it on the car (63 TR4) as well. Let me know if you would like the mix formula and I will go and see if I can find the paperwork. I can also supply you with a few photos to give you an idea of what it looks like on my 4. Bob On 04/23/2013 05:08 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > Does anyone have a modern paint code for the early 60s spa white dashes on a > TR4? I had asked before and someone sent me PPG 8335. My painter can't > find this code. Is Spa White the creamy white? Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jim Henningsen > > 1963 TR4 CT5212LO > > 75 TR6 > > Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:21:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526684041C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:21:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.135]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C64403F0 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:17:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:15:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.238] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:15:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1038.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21365 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2013 21:15:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366751755; bh=4n3RNMDq9DaUn4VHtC9GKdVpfdn5UC8a5pQPS/+qjiA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RFDquZ7jGcuKK46NJWOA1rLMfD5WkE2ZWwZDvKO7TCRrTvdI5fFkRBX32ptBJogdVaLTjxWVtjp9p1OFuZkZpm7HxK9WastMKMgJMaJxoQX9rPU0SpwmNlshg56DQFNdYdJULqzIt3WduQOfUNwGZaaMWZDEruLxygWrDe+koIs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=18v5qkT0QnSQb2uDaOUG7jNvDORqu/eah2XD+lPKjrCBl1fRpDM1B2aO0mNf5/TYkCvw5/o2DayxzXbIfeUZLJVr1PFb87vJQ1x+3nO7Z04TM0kaIaA+sR9pS7kXDKBBHdRuK+nVSBX6XCg9VM+dcl7R0GteUqsXXxXrXGDmayM=; ZyX3wxL1JugeZVSyBIeS.Beu72gIG8ixatGdPBbg3bDC43XRhwfdxDaUdQm. z6xkE3F.HylFJzpoZtbKK9D7viP_JaN3cgVM6y9b1PqchrhfoYzRmVlSNkuA 0pARMwK1blo80sotMFR9LVgazl2uf5u4Rnm0qQk2bn.8M44dvkKRh_62B55A DybtXd4vEQo3MvkxsSkKnEb8zTnXbeXbDiFWzVMYNkRGX4deZUmMzPw0q8dM _zqYwO8ZTodF.WKU.v9GbNhyO2c7GGWYaC.TegvFJpaQhHIRY5orvxUQXFJ3 AZFUGZb_Apg.q1u7QBuxAD2i11_4sEGg92r9.d9icLxUy8sBrzAe60I40zja zh6z9YElCeF5dBCNlb9b4hYI1lp50Dy7zPrkEPzpQ6wN3HZlN5xMPw4gJfOi 2wARpFvyzihJsD1PI2nBr8AtE6l3hYw3Zm5p6V9A2b9d37gI8MNfj8aIf4oy v.r8.Ds7bn6vqx.EClFunV6QARaxyoNaseOGsuD8SVw2S1F52BTxqPwFdhNW QUFcpBAYnb0YNzJJ.JurZ00FWTU5vADzORqfOL8Cy4_c- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:15:55 PDT d2h5IG5vdCByZXBsYWNlIGl0IHdpdGggdGhlIHN0ZWVsIGxpbmUgZnJvbSB0aGUgVFIzPwpJJ20gZ3Vlc3NpbmcgdGhhdCB0aGV5IGFyZSB0aGUgc2FtZSBmaXR0aW5ncwpGcmFuawrCoArCoAp3aG9vb28gaG9vbyBiYWNrIGdldHRpbmcgbWFpbArCoArCoArCoAoKRnJvbTogInRoZW5pY2hvbGxzQHZlcml6b24ubmV0IiA8dGhlbmljaG9sbHNAdmVyaXpvbi5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCAKU2VudDogVHVlc2RheSwgQXByaWwgMjMsIDIwMTMgMjowOCBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1QBMAEBAQE- References: <15055409.114824.1366751281425.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "thenicholls@verizon.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net why not replace it with the steel line from the TR3? I'm guessing that they are the same fittings Frank whoooo hooo back getting mail From: "thenicholls@verizon.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 I was really thinking you were better off until I heard you lost an engine. I got off easy.....Craig On 04/23/13, Mark Hooper wrote: I too had a disastrous fail of the line on an old engine. Stuck in hot summer traffic jam idling with low pressure, did not notice that the gauge had stopped reading as all the engine oil drained on the road through the broken end of the pipe. When the traffic cleared, I took off down the highway. Completely seized the camshaft about 1 km later. Stuck on side of highway for several hours in 95 degree sun. End of engine, end of date, end of girlfriend. I really really hate that tube. My solution was to convert to an electric oil pressure gauge. First a cheapy unit from Canadian Tire and then a nice Smiths part from gaugeguys a few years later when slightly lessened poverty permitted. Mark 1972 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of thenicholls@verizon.net Sent: April-22-13 9:14 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Jim, If it was me, I would not try and repair it. I had a catastrophic failure of that plastic line at the gauge and oil poured into the car, through my radio, and onto my $600 carpet from TRF. Based on my sad tale, TSI imports made a stainless steel replacement. TSI-TR250 , 3991 , TR250/TR6 Oil pressure gauge line. They are located on the web: http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com/. I tried to get a free one but that did not work out. :) Craig 72 Triumph TR6 On 04/22/13, morgan wrote: The hard plastic oil gauge line leaks near the engine connection. I wanted to remove the last 2 inches and put the barb fitting back in. No way it will fit. Heat made it too soft too fast. What is the secret? Thanks Jim Fuller Syracuse,NY ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:22:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA54540425 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED0B40419 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:17:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:16:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.162] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:16:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 21:16:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5705 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2013 21:16:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366751792; bh=Q76Ee5yCzqDMh2ZeG6fYM/hw+MPjsrESZnkfFxFFRx4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xdvxClarDrkga4MokS154RXp1yVSR1kTfiYgsMm2mfzh1n98h8H1wg3RcCIBurKyqgfFsQGQOmUFf8qCVZEU4AYkjQtkFXLGIKz9nmscg/rf+gTG+XPkxLVe+IEdcz+ArJogSRmLLSgZG8Pzmx89FgNak2eBJ7PJ0yWkihqqXR0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HGRVSJajGAIVUDI36ASg56L4LlXIsOgXI/Yq6+Vb12wYYqt3BB8rhBbamDUySfKptXm2YGIfTi/POo56O8ZZPBMvTWhUX/HAIwNmIN9LgBUoCJpn2Nbj/lJvNzuwVKogJGw4V/JWwo4X5aPfSRMk0MZefxAG4vhGptPqR56bXRE=; mVosz0XciB.eWL7FFguf64Gy6yGiYKgGdwS56cBj7QXs1MIeNHOMwVlYeT8Z Ith2YRePXOuQGPmBHEuL9kDUYkHmSM1w6eSy3YIXFul0_caUu6MgUSvHFGAc 5pzaasDxP2q_qaWh1ZUSccw.mbHJyQNOTLxMpNVFj4sSGtQm7qtUoAfX2NfT Ri2Ez1AuUlnh9Dyuqk29F4PCL5AdtAzcssxRdPzFUUCLXMrEeDnI2vR0qrrX wkDf1PPPscEg_YAJKaT0QmDeNIPrAh8piIN0SZ7cEiVeIAmSb6CASmsT.qKw zM68DHMRK0rVZ1TnPm_vusz0TXymt8lbZ.jKbtClizdCSWwdEYTRhYfz_DpQ Ig4gJnFSJDcKSa7._sImtv0Bn9tGMM_oFryH_3P5fuEUIKdfOHwaeYtMT5.8 fm8EcUXrTfSVpZMqFsOlsh2doxSbShpkh0QNMleSO6YzgA_07gdTQzhG.vVf o8uGtFpPaiT4U8xE5NXF0yDaBMRb2bOq2xgMNOOsiTtBjL6S1ypaS9j.1 Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:16:32 PDT aW0geWFob28naW5nCsKgCnRoYW5rcyBNYXJrCgpGcm9tOiBNYXJrIEogQnJhZGFraXMgPG1hcmtAYnJhZGFraXMuY29tPgpUbzogVHJpdW1waHMgPFRyaXVtcGhzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogVHVlc2RheSwgQXByaWwgMjMsIDIwMTMgMjoxMiBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbVFJdIFlhaG9vLCBldGMuCgoKSSBiZWxpZXZlIHRoZSB5YWhvbywgYnRpbnRlcm5ldCwgc2JjZ2xvYmFsIGlzc3VlIGlzIHJlc29sdmVkLgpJJ2xsIGtlZXAgYSBjbG9zZSBleWUgb24gbGlzdCBtYWlsIHRvIGNoZWNrLgoKbWpiLgoBMAEBAQE- References: <5176F92D.4030107@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Mark J Bradakis , Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Yahoo, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net im yahoo'ing thanks Mark From: Mark J Bradakis To: Triumphs Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: [TR] Yahoo, etc. I believe the yahoo, btinternet, sbcglobal issue is resolved. I'll keep a close eye on list mail to check. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:23:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD8B4043E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7884740419 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TSTQ1l0070cZkys55ZJqZe; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:18:50 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TZJq1l00S2xV5no3WZJqYc; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:18:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:18:50 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1366751930; bh=OO8GjN8BJ6dvttQuJRNT0rBKnv0J3hTRJBDRCWCV1fI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DWWVt1IZal6ct287DIqB2sNot6C6ojgEwli6WafIlffKOCykftfska8iKAYo3w0IL Cv3TOF8pNemmsv6g+xojVf0K5pXSH4N3fk04vMmDHSq+G6tkICw8pMxc7C7rp41uto UCUBl5NDKR0XlWZwvl2rIwpSOAtAKikTHQq1BQhzVERFCUGt0H5J9a49JJeOaCVlqE BvIdcu0g0ijwiP12JLCCYhKsK6OieUsptcOP0+LDY4jvF3QBFvzmyFWEC7fwTmth5f SLp+AfM0MEP+I+bm7XRhDtg+NFnAlUDxd2OHRzdhH4diVj0fw2dD7kkvK1SwkVmNbz G/u9ttd1e3AnQ== Subject: [TR] Uncool Coolant Confusion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I confess, I'm not getting the nuance here. I rebuilt the engine on my TR3A 10 years ago and it always ran cool using the yellow multi-bladed upgrade fan and stock radiator. I've rebuilt it again using new rings but the same Mahle pistons and same honed liners. Did put in a new radiator from either Moss or TRF. Runs spectacular with so far about 5,000 miles on it. But... On mild days the engine touches 190 to 200 instead of 160-180 it runs on cool days. Block was boiled and cleaned. New radiator. Proven pistons and liners. Only change I made was to bring the crankshaft thrust bearings within tolerances by going oversize. I'll break down and install an electric fan if this doesn't clear up this summer. Thoughts? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 15:23:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072C640452 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f170.google.com (mail-gg0-f170.google.com [209.85.161.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B0540513 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gg0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u1so164564ggl.15 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=UC2V+cx9HF2nMJ3jMjVRHyISol+RU8gKYdQMxJlRE+g=; b=gdpHG5UZO9l1c62BKi+Wucvp44eQDGDzRSFw9Pr9YKBfWW5EwFUwUVuiGOyeXPjE4k dCKDxd9/YIzisFQBYPFB3iYWUiW7sST0BCkQX05ZDfITjmVvFwIEhr9iyiXPkgxauJXf ncLuYXV79jprByA2j1/JuJnItRCQrQO42ko1i659fYLP2eSTolHP/0Z0LbiR9YuThrBu Ubk+RWo2Dekai0aU0gIuRd3eWIPyZWMQ2QhMFYDjvIbAcwPsp8yjTwsH/6JiX4Kvcqnt +ty1bLM4sLipu4Gbwa5EjoSnb/ImQza/onki0pvG/9bQZhzKWGUu1lLtDTegfg8eH0a0 /TSg== a29mr21420364yhn.131.1366752049026; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip98-180-71-26.ga.at.cox.net. [98.180.71.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h68sm52574yhj.24.2013.04.23.14.20.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Bob Labuz'" References: <002d01ce4066$a4f53be0$eedfb3a0$@gmail.com> <5176F984.6090308@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:20:51 -0400 thread-index: AQKh+DOcz1NXRhK6xvgrcS1mcVh/pQKKGINElyiPjkA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That would be great. He said the local ppg supply house couldn't find code in their database. jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Labuz [mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:14 PM To: James Henningsen Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Jim, I have the PPG formula for Spa White in DCC I think. (If I can find it) My local PPG supplier was able to re-create the formula from the code I supplied. I used it on the car (63 TR4) as well. Let me know if you would like the mix formula and I will go and see if I can find the paperwork. I can also supply you with a few photos to give you an idea of what it looks like on my 4. Bob On 04/23/2013 05:08 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > Does anyone have a modern paint code for the early 60s spa white > dashes on a TR4? I had asked before and someone sent me PPG 8335. My > painter can't find this code. Is Spa White the creamy white? Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jim Henningsen > > 1963 TR4 CT5212LO > > 75 TR6 > > Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C729F40448 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C683740430 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=7iZQ_Ys96O8A:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=G0viTz2zzziwkOwHilcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:39749] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 51/0C-25887-42407715; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:59:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:59:00 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net, terryrs@comcast.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Uncool Coolant Confusion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > Block was boiled and cleaned. New radiator. Proven pistons and liners. Only change I made was to bring the crankshaft thrust bearings within tolerances by going oversize. > I'll break down and install an electric fan if this doesn't clear up this summer. > Thoughts? You didn't mention thermostat, nor checking that the temp gauge was still accurate. Replace the water pump? Grille? Air deflector? Distributor? Re-tune the carbs? Could the exhaust have gotten partially clogged while you were working? (eg mouse crawled into the pipe) IMO if it is getting hot at speed, then an electric fan is not likely to help. You're going to have to find the problem and fix it. FWIW, I've had really persistent overheating problems 3 times now (with three different TR3/A). First time, I'm pretty sure it was worn carb jets or it might have been the carb modifications (done by a previous owner). Both second and third times, it proved to be a radiator that "couldn't possibly be bad", but was. Sorry, that doesn't help much. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:14:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB00740447 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [68.178.252.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1F34042C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa11-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Ta1w1l00K53lu5001a1wGg; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:01:57 -0700 From: "Dave" To: References: <002d01ce4066$a4f53be0$eedfb3a0$@gmail.com><5176F984.6090308@adelphia.net> <003d01ce4068$6fe52df0$4faf89d0$@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:56:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would like that code, too. thank you -----Original Message----- From: James Henningsen Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:20 PM To: 'Bob Labuz' Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code That would be great. He said the local ppg supply house couldn't find code in their database. jim -----Original Message----- From: Bob Labuz [mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:14 PM To: James Henningsen Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Spa White Paint Code Jim, I have the PPG formula for Spa White in DCC I think. (If I can find it) My local PPG supplier was able to re-create the formula from the code I supplied. I used it on the car (63 TR4) as well. Let me know if you would like the mix formula and I will go and see if I can find the paperwork. I can also supply you with a few photos to give you an idea of what it looks like on my 4. Bob On 04/23/2013 05:08 PM, James Henningsen wrote: > Does anyone have a modern paint code for the early 60s spa white > dashes on a TR4? I had asked before and someone sent me PPG 8335. My > painter can't find this code. Is Spa White the creamy white? Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jim Henningsen > > 1963 TR4 CT5212LO > > 75 TR6 > > Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:16:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AB6406AE for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:16:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47064042C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=JtucBEG2et4A:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=fll6082hmf38WX_fgJ4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:40198] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id B1/EF-04559-AB607715; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:10:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:10:02 +0000 From: Randall To: terryrs@comcast.net Sensitivity: Normal Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Starter Solenoid buzzing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > I'm sure it means the starter is going bad anyway, but seems that there is some connection between very cold (30's) temps and the starter kicking in. > > ...Or is he off base with this? Certainly possible. But my experience (back when I lived where it got cold) was that the engine would frequently fire once (kicking the starter drive out) and then fail to start. I would have to back off the starter button, wait for it to stop spinning, then try again. My buddy's MGA did the same thing. It happened much less often in warm weather (but still occasionally). Not a sign of a failing starter as far as I could see. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:44:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FBC4051D for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:44:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2044042C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=YJ1NlPl5oGEA:10 a=AgxwcHfMAAAA:8 a=nkuVfqBiowKQCun6CvAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Bejx1G9E4r8A:10 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:40547] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F2/FA-25887-EA807715; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:18:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:18:22 +0000 From: Randall To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 oil pressure line leak 74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Mark Hooper wrote: > I too had a disastrous fail of the line on an old engine. Stuck in hot summer > traffic jam idling with low pressure, did not notice that the gauge had > stopped reading as all the engine oil drained on the road through the broken Just a thought, if that kind of thing worries you: It should be fairly easy to wire an oil pressure switch so it kills the engine if you lose oil pressure. There even exist oil pressure gauges with this function built into them (though probably not to match the other gauges). Guess I've been lucky though. I've lost oil pressure several times and always noticed before any serious damage was done. I try to make it a habit to scan the gauges frequently, but the change in engine noise has alerted me first, every time. Usually it just means I need to add oil :) Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:59:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A10840430 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (unknown [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ABF4042C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:39:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TQF61l0050cZkys59aeaUD; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:38:34 +0000 Received: from [10.226.140.173] ([174.252.179.205]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TaeN1l00j4SHRoW3WaeRej; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:38:32 +0000 To: terryrs@comcast.net,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:38:32 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1366756714; bh=VOGe4Zq0n9oNw4DNWZfLbmAJ4A1j6i4aM9wJYZyMNAo=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FQ0n4oEWU/93k76JCL3YfClPm4wPRjcauIxisKzOigkJX3Xz/AKKnPZNqluRtJg9g 6VY3kyUUof0vJslrMe2YTkV7yr/8s8VxUlD1y+OZKZ0tH73a/f+9X668S3C4f7gG4X lRuZ3dhUxPA6mHbLND+Xz+JJxxpQ3CaiqSGIivLAZUZ1p+sEokg6AmTrya57ptEyU2 ULNzZXQ8Z01M0EMWnL4xu4Cna/HmaffAQOOr4Nu72KKqGo5A+9UEvkMym/cOP5DsFs bw9WyvzaQMGezQZlcPXbtwmrseCs6E93DgAHfieL6iZD/HaKiZMS5HgXxldKqDqL9D h5EKi82kW+HCg== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Uncool_Coolant_Confusion?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 200 is a good temp for the additives in the oil. But such a big change from previous is worrisome. Aluminum or copper radiator? Water pump working (fan belt slip)? Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Subject: [TR] Uncool Coolant Confusion Date: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 16:18 I confess, I'm not getting the nuance here. I rebuilt the engine on my TR3A 10 years ago and it always ran cool using the yellow multi-bladed upgrade fan and stock radiator. I've rebuilt it again using new rings but the same Mahle pistons and same honed liners. Did put in a new radiator from either Moss or TRF. Runs spectacular with so far about 5,000 miles on it. But... On mild days the engine touches 190 to 200 instead of 160-180 it runs on cool days. Block was boiled and cleaned. New radiator. Proven pistons and liners. Only change I made was to bring the crankshaft thrust bearings within tolerances by going oversize. I'll break down and install an electric fan if this doesn't clear up this summer. Thoughts? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 19:42:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7505B4044E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4CE40338 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from JoePa2011 ([unknown] [96.249.153.70]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MLQ009QWKNPY750@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:40:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph Laurito" To: , References: <15055409.114824.1366751281425.JavaMail.root@vznit170128> <1649227787.1224761.1366751930294.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:40:39 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac5AaKdsi2rQ4MkXQqOlcS+yC8/JlgAI0c6Q Subject: Re: [TR] Uncool Coolant Confusion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Terry; Before you start spending money, double check your timing, then check your carbs to make sure you don't have the mixture set too lean. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:19 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Uncool Coolant Confusion I confess, I'm not getting the nuance here. I rebuilt the engine on my TR3A 10 years ago and it always ran cool using the yellow multi-bladed upgrade fan and stock radiator. I've rebuilt it again using new rings but the same Mahle pistons and same honed liners. Did put in a new radiator from either Moss or TRF. Runs spectacular with so far about 5,000 miles on it. But... On mild days the engine touches 190 to 200 instead of 160-180 it runs on cool days. Block was boiled and cleaned. New radiator. Proven pistons and liners. Only change I made was to bring the crankshaft thrust bearings within tolerances by going oversize. I'll break down and install an electric fan if this doesn't clear up this summer. Thoughts? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trglory@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 21:52:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FD040546 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E89F340448 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:52:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 03:51:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.234] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 03:51:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 03:51:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 75672 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Apr 2013 03:51:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366775480; bh=dPRJHkpvEyZNWeOhp3SjSSAw5CvuVUBRsB+JD4Wf92c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gU9RF5iR/BZ7Be2wO/p8xpM6yVG7B3zMj0woljMlZV2954MslS5tVJx4Rnwlj/7Q706igFEv5UsykDAla/RmdG2ctasaDZ5zXO9ZIw/hu8dbvnwiOVpEbIqBtjmZcvwvb+thLw4c0qsBRssUcSTYOHoNZsLTaoBo9DK1co3n7b8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c0q4lV2zwefR09lp41qlxZV67F23hwX/FMuEnsKdKa4FoL+X+6ehKTzWwzNvfzRjxmSwCTJ4Wu8AA6I5VlvdVSvCl+VeV/8gmNGZnJOpKNk/rLmv0xwSRQ5f9BDz9KgxWuy63FraknJhTQO/PlvDsLa0ilOrMsiiHHYfg5kwzfM=; NCydMOIcSiJpgidO0as.s5i8DnbtTLeTjGv8R7CwNTHR0Lc74hXrDJEtKX7e Z8QQY8OEGa08qvFD0oStbOAcPcFFS6fLlzX_KFWcHB_Fn5mE08cJqGMBXmtp DRoCZ1_bwHbsw1RTPM3AZoFk9Q97Pru0eCunuYq2uGFF6nH4.Ctm6DitrnDZ sJfrec8oZYa9V3TiIR4HQEIjV6WepBO854paVySBl373qUdGff4iV79Kxd9Z wXIpH7THi1CVNuwOfCOA8pG4nbujQcDv1vGRlgRSNiAbAujyxq6n4hxeXZ0i sL_UDxR6vO2dFXln2nX_hif1Wxpx0YSNOqswyUs0ZOyLpu4kXo1JD6TD1EhE VaVeX4zVNS9dUamyUTB.ErCGI57ovya4.L1HSJQ_IXofv.T9mS49us8edJ4x 6.p1.Pna.61lPLiliOtkHpEk5zZmb.X9x_Q.r3Tf4Ph.AvcnNyHW7Ijx8 Received: from [99.101.58.88] by web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:51:20 PDT SSB0aGluayBteSBsZWZ0IGZyb250IGJyYWtlIGlzIHdvcm4gb3V0LiDCoElzIGl0IGEgYmlnIGRlYWwgdG8gZml4P0JlaGluZCB0aGUgbGVmdCBzaWRlIG9mIG15IHJvbGxiYXIgSSdtIGdldHRpbmcgc29tZSB2ZXJ5IHByb25vdW5jZWQgc3F1ZWFraW5nLiDCoEFueSBpZGVhcyBvbiB0aGVzZT8gwqAnNzQgVFI2ATABAQEB Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:51:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Summers To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] noises Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think my left front brake is worn out. Is it a big deal to fix?Behind the left side of my rollbar I'm getting some very pronounced squeaking. Any ideas on these? '74 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 21:59:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929904056E for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1E640448 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B75A079B for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:01:12 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1366775480.69899.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] noises Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John Summers wrote: > I think my left front brake is worn out. Is it a big deal to fix? If it just worn pads, no problem. If the worn pads have chewed up the rotor, more complicated. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 22:45:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6064A40E16 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:45:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304F04052F for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:41:41 -0600 (MDT) x-ip-name=118.82.148.217; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.148.217]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 20227484-1739096 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:40:32 +1200 From: "ashleys" To: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:40:24 +1200 Subject: [TR] TR3B For Sale. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi! Check out www. trademe.co.nz 586272211, TR3B for sale. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What is the exchange rate NZ to US dollar? -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ashleys Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:40 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3B For Sale. Hi! Check out www. trademe.co.nz 586272211, TR3B for sale. Also overdrive gear box - 286179254 A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 24 05:07:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA424006E for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f41.google.com (mail-wg0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C5D40405 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 05:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e11so2110195wgh.2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 04:05:27 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ghvKOK3V6jtDlCheCI7HCdigIZHdTYwisuln3qILzgo=; b=BKzB/fuGPsb539efQdUrGVr3/SYsFL+xKqSKcEVGvJgWdD6Isfqxddmwve1/Z7uXiW 3XpkOcg2vAuQM0SeJn5PDzKfHtoYXAC6bxRF5WYFWAkNMU/7DJcKJwURohA8zi74ZzJt IOpQWCBmqvs98vGnovsz7VITOfoI4QGRORdL5nB6T+fuqXhjZBQWYqSVqWSqQ9qCvXoC 44OuzbPIPSYSKAGB0g3HlPj9NLjmfquoDlCLxs/ymtiDjQRnwQymQfFO4CWYdb7ZaOBd xnZiyDIjb/S6+G3jZsNZ5d6ja/2DhC9fjCte4vFVxmVYsYZHlh57G7V9PYz6AHNW/rvw 4OeQ== wr10mr67412917wjb.23.1366801527638; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 04:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.161.196 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 04:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 07:05:27 -0400 From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] TR7 for sale in Kentucky Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/3761612982.html In case one of you might be looking for a TR7 project. Brad ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 25 14:05:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F2C403FC for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:05:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com (mail-vb0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C61400AD for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:01:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 11so3015927vbe.33 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zkvGUQtAgv3uYxHfI/+gxlT9OrYZFqKneCLdjbgWIAw=; b=wkuMYbeGBLOAeB217BBx13Uov+qxTqxQRaraa+YuCP4ib2B171vIMlt18QTbiB/IpI gddvk+/rUKMxiACC/ePXq63IfCtUAJDZyUhdRka7Ar1GEWGYVf64Y7GGp/von4Iz9MTz h1vzuQGod5w5VC+u5ccRK5jZvYRKhJ1S3+vB2dHxe/M+3IFpjmhiLidBMDVgj9nmljQo b7przjPm5dUzpSTxAOZIMEWTomJy1S5s110hENXtkUXn8CY8m3qpo7XrUC/C7KEjcmw3 5GDlUXjxfHVckZjVUr+8fYyQ7jXjenqxO/4SJcsH015K7QYhe9JohkKwE312CFWiS0Dm 47Fg== Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.181.138 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:01 -0400 From: Perry Hammock To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A....7" versus 5 1/2" driving lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net for a number of reasons, including covering up some very minor body damage, i am going to install driving lights on my 1960 tr3A. I have a set of NOS Lucas driving and fog lights in the smaller 5 1/2 inch size. I have wiring and relays already installed, thanks to advice from Randall some time back. Luckily the lights werent on the car when the doofus in teh jacked up pickup basked into my car ( but ever so slightly) it would be a bit more cosmetically helpful to use 7" lights. Birthday is here, so the 7" lights would make a good present ;-) Car is a ten footer, driven often and fast. Do not want to start shipwrights disease project because the whole body would need to be redone. Just want to drive, not get into body work at this time. Will save the insurance check for the total resoration when I find a perfect body. Any comments about which looks/fits/works better? thanks! Perry HAmmock 60 tr3a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 26 16:55:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BDC42563 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ABC427A6 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Umn91l00127AodY5EmpLCz; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:49:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.197] ([71.192.208.10]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UmpJ1l01j0E03aX3fmpKw9; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:49:20 +0000 References: From: Anthony Rhodes Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:49:19 -0400 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" s=q20121106; t=1367016560; bh=03s5arORu5WbCan1woNO0ZgqCtGi3+vYLqOIDXvQBOw=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=OfYnRkDtoYyTpY7fK0+57kQFFH8OcSfqgH+Uc6GgrfruO9KrJN1CK9ZqNUHRZlE86 NjsRmeWDH/iMeBus+o3hGZHvSVciz+hSdFCF0MvdDnPVnvh8qm5ijHHNbnKQnMzf05 wqrDp30X58Va3KQOqWXA7HWtlqczmuI4YB3W6mfLhyVVOa28ydm5lhLkINaro32tIw 95e6LtpKYQzU7Ouwvucv+CjN5+i3JbfZijsrWKhe1glJsgNs/AvRbr6AOxskyEXZbE MsH66ldFarCkBN5XLnYU20uLksrUUGnlkG+NBDq8OTOnd8GbIG3NjeCmNsObO6sN9+ csZISXruaDm5w== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A....7" versus 5 1/2" driving lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Perry, Well, the 7" looks a little large to me, but it is a matter of your personal preference I came very close to mounting a pair of 7" hella driving lights. As I was sitting working on shaping bracket templates., I started working out my energy budget. I have a stock 22A generator. I concluded that with all the stock equipment running, I could not sustain the extra power demand of two 100 watt driving lights! I think that this is why they mounted one driving light and one fog light. And they were less than 55 watts each, and only one would be on at a time. An extra 40 watts is sustainable, but not 200, IMHO. So I switched out my original Lucas headlights, and installed some H4's. I measured the originals to draw about only 40 watts and they were pretty dim. I figure the pair of new 55/60W headlights max out my generator and they are quite bright. No need for driving lights. But for decoration, some Lucas flamethrower driving lights would look perfect! -Tony > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:01 -0400 > From: Perry Hammock > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] TR3A....7" versus 5 1/2" driving lights > Message-ID: > > for a number of reasons, including covering up some very minor body damage, > i am going to install > driving lights on my 1960 tr3A. I have a set of NOS Lucas driving and fog > lights in the smaller 5 1/2 inch size. > I have wiring and relays already installed, thanks to advice from Randall > some time back. > Luckily the lights werent on the car when the doofus in teh jacked up > pickup basked into my car ( but ever so slightly) > it would be a bit more cosmetically helpful to use 7" lights. Birthday is > here, so the 7" lights would make a good present ;-) > > Car is a ten footer, driven often and fast. Do not want to start > shipwrights disease project because the whole body would need to be redone. > Just want to drive, not get into body work at this time. Will save the > insurance check for the total resoration when I find a perfect body. > > Any comments about which looks/fits/works better? > > thanks! > > Perry HAmmock ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 01:40:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D52E4299F for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:40:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA54C42948 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC939A07E6 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:40:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:40:51 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] No ideas yet? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Somewhat surprised no responses to this: http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=150 mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 01:55:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B889429EB for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926AB4295D for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:55:31 -0600 (MDT) a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=E1XRS5tM-u8A:10 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4KMC5-6PpNzqR6Xu61AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4A6q6VvHb28A:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QHqqnK016tYA:10 a=T1jTriLPLxoA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:57891] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 38/DF-17243-E148B715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:54:07 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Triumphs" References: <517B8103.6050703@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:54:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] No ideas yet? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am semi-awake, my mind is bouncing around a little bit, how about a pull thing to raise the dickey or rumble seat of a post war Triumph 2000? That is what we call a WAG Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Triumphs" Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:40 AM Subject: [TR] No ideas yet? > Somewhat surprised no responses to this: > > http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=150 > > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 12:51:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F8242881 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4133142460 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:51:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B35AB700000B1 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.69]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8562EE000081 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:49:51 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 99.173.25.32 by webmail-m261.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:49:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:49:51 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367088591; bh=a5eaMPPpokyLpGOH4cVNCqY+FFMVMt2u6GqgecfzwMc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GfZkB1VWFHkFDbiUwr1haEblZcFEDHQII933phDmmeYCpaIeqlW/+7eZ9Q+0CKnAV odRBympDVr6SPC/JcqYrXZPeYqCr4ZMlUA+4vu8aZgr3jBkqOif2wXZykBABIeTm50 tIY0Ho/ZjZ4gIO/dNF2rz7E7q2HL3q4lFqXlgyDk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2908517c1dcf4ca9 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 support vehicle troubles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, Hoping someone can help direct me to a user's group as my support vehicle (an '88 Ford TBird) has failed aircon/heat 'blower' operation. A year ago I replaced a failed TO-3 transistor located on the finned aluminum arm, inside the air ducting, with the only TO-3 transistor Radio Shack sells - it worked for 1 year! Without the fan operating again I have no ventilation, aircon, or heating action. The original TO-3 transistor (Motorola SJ5783) or equivalent, can not be found on internet after at least 4 hours of searching and several calls and queries ('maybe' I can order 200 of them!) so my next step is looking for a TBird user's group to see what others might have done, or better yet, an equivalent transistor. Any leads or better ideas out there? Hot Summer is coming! Regards, Carl '63 TR4 since '74 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 13:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9322642587 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C7B42587 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V7Xa1l0011zF43QAE7iRGj; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:42:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V7iP1l00c4L5TyG8k7iQPT; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:42:25 +0000 From: Bud R To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:42:23 -0600 s=q20121106; t=1367091745; bh=7sES5cLGSHVYa0bAHx2c/gqQRmeLyD3BhQRORWbiM8U=; h=Received:Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Subject: Mime-Version:Date; b=P1ux28/sg7T5RSUDMKetwFfZIURtGHSHUvozeqNVhDA8mo8HmrJsz/Vi9xQ5oq8fL ygF8TVGK8MRvAn7ezsSqA4Xze/lOy8POUTJiaSKQhebFfGRYG16nSHkUGBLSEQq0G4 dbp4Ppnnw065rqvoElocZCR/YaCQGFXd+hP+CE/DOYD5H+nSWtd0Q/mh1emoQ79quR YkrtLsfAeP7AXc/zznBmQ3UuPSPH4nTdcE/O5Xh9xuiwoTG69ZfvwhY+rM+XDdoFfx VjyrpFg1FF9mkcTwq+bwlOP6+hjx/uSy4cb1cMuTkf7SiKF/s0jUW5bj6DHBXT/ARc aDdn5ZMa44XAw== Subject: [TR] Old TR6-TR4 top? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone replace their convertible top and have the old one they'd like to get rid of? I'd like an old 4A white one ideally or a big piece of one since I have an old white top I'm working from. Black or tan would work if I can get two of them. I'm making a cover to go over the MK IV when towing it and will hopefully snap a couple pieces together to make a full cover from the front cowling to the rear deck with snaps on the car and maybe some "tags" at both ends that would be held by the closed boot lid and bonnet. Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 18:07:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE40E42931 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7042458 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:01:52 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=1B3IFua0LzgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=4V6ze_bW6FQA:10 a=J1dLiQXTjXrJdHMkkp4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7A/C2-02984-9966C715; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 00:00:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:00:34 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5DeBSJRRnpvk0fQI6m8B0uesFJrwAKK6OA Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 support vehicle troubles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > A > year ago I replaced a failed TO-3 transistor located on the > finned aluminum arm, inside the air ducting, with the only > TO-3 transistor Radio Shack sells - it worked for 1 year! I found two TO-3 on their web site ... What was the part number of the RS "almost" replacement? The SJ series were OEM numbers; generally used to keep people from doing what you're trying to do. Sorry, no help on the Tbird group. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 20:42:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645704032A for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BE64249B for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:25:48 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=cFPCzShXYN0A:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=9KEOylriVWwA:10 a=-D0zjsy-yWa52HAu0FgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=1jSsLfkOym1RhZ9CNhUA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=jILDCGD6D8I4zBNo:21 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp02.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50724] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 1E/9B-18444-4588C715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:24:21 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:27:24 -0400 Subject: [TR] Question on gear reduction starter wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I have a gear reduction starter that I had bought several years ago from TSI automotive and am just now wireing it up. I would have written Ted with this question but I am hoping I can get an answer yet this weekend. Does anyone know if these starters need a external starter solenoid or is the small one wire connector controlling a internal starter solenoid? I don't know if I can run a battery cable directly to this starter or if I need a starter relay? Thanks, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 20:56:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09960429A0 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8E24044D for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:50:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-34-69-85.ptld.qwest.net [71.34.69.85]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MLY001002GMPL60@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 02:48:29 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-28_01:2013-04-26,2013-04-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304270335 From: Darrell Walker Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:48:22 -0700 References: <662B88486A40447A8D829A1295D92116@DaveLaptop> To: Dave Connitt Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Question on gear reduction starter wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe they all have an internal solenoid. Here are some wiring options: http://britishstarters.com/Wiring_Diagram.html -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 20:58:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ABD429A3 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:58:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.fuse.net [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F85840E1B for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:58:35 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:17 a=VHSIRIvgz6UA:10 a=vYbi2SD7W5AA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=vO4Dc6rpU3YA:10 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=LssBojzJAAAA:8 a=2UGZe1HhaNX3B5hnlosA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=vwPoTizZaj0A:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=LUGdSHaYEaYA:10 a=xLz2L0sCA/pk1mBfSkem+A==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com header.from=dconnitt@fuse.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com smtp.mail=dconnitt@fuse.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (smtp01.cincibell.synacor.com: 72.49.196.163 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fuse.net Received: from [72.49.196.163] ([72.49.196.163:50344] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtp.fuse.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id DA/1F-14356-4009C715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:57:08 -0400 From: "Dave Connitt" To: "Darrell Walker" References: <662B88486A40447A8D829A1295D92116@DaveLaptop> <57DED8E7-610C-4754-B6E0-4867904F1C28@mac.com> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 23:00:11 -0400 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Question on gear reduction starter wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Darrell! Dave Connitt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Walker" To: "Dave Connitt" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Question on gear reduction starter wiring > > I believe they all have an internal solenoid. > > Here are some wiring options: > > http://britishstarters.com/Wiring_Diagram.html > > -Darrell > > -- > Darrell Walker > 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L > 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 > Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 27 22:43:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3663429A0 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7219442453 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 22:34:19 -0600 (MDT) a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=VHSIRIvgz6UA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vO4Dc6rpU3YA:10 a=LssBojzJAAAA:8 a=YEFP8YG0Y75idSvvnB0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=vwPoTizZaj0A:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7D/D0-16585-376AC715; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 04:32:51 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:33:01 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5Du85VXWLpZMkUTyOJaC4ldV+sEAADMLMQ Subject: Re: [TR] Question on gear reduction starter wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I believe they all have an internal solenoid. > > Here are some wiring options: > > http://britishstarters.com/Wiring_Diagram.html FWIW, I went a different route than either diagram shows. The solenoid inside the starter draws a good deal of current, roughly 6 times as much as the original, and I wasn't confident of the original switch's ability to handle the extra current (and extra kick-back) on a regular basis. I also wanted to keep the original solenoid functional (the button on the back comes in really handy from time to time); but it had lost part of it's smoke when the original starter failed. So, I used the original solenoid to switch power only to the new solenoid. I moved all of the original wires from the top stud to the bottom stud (making the wire to the starter hot all the time), and ran a new wire from the top stud to the solenoid stud on the new starter. Best of both worlds, IMO. That was in 2000, and both the switch & the solenoid are still working great (they got moved from the wrecked TR3A to my current TR3 along with the starter). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 07:54:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6D340525 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B526403D7 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 07:54:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VRDb1l0030bG4ec59Rsgxf; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:52:40 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VRsg1l00k2xV5no3PRsgJp; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:52:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:52:40 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1367157160; bh=KGFlYaHIAeMJU+/1bqwKP0ilJQcQE4L9rzWdcn88yK0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KKsJu8z/Gw3liuZmwC+gWdQTw9mQ3rGGdN0Lqs6CMeD3DS3GaXcCsN+8KJ5ufRZOL FvVW88coWDifLa5CY/cl00qLbqJh82r3am086l6fVe1Ln6c1JE4rJSz/5pk2fFoc8l 2iTfEr0YM/R/joFDYWWloFu4chMZB22a739a6cCDIawi6pOtD5kc+t0n592+Mj/hkf jSkxNazTRmhLF2VpPvbZUA6GPa5K5rao8Uo6hUuQzjSn8/oThmaYg8DqUgQDk9SzJ7 cg0kCzdVHLu3Z8xZP04g0LjBIHGhswb/Rh9WqbLMSjtHTXN2eWdv64hR/ySqZKCiwI Vt3uDsmXrXk+g== Subject: [TR] Overheating Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Investigating my overheating in the TR3A, I found loss of coolant in the radiator. I checked the oil in the sump, but no white curdling suggesting water in the oil. Pulling the valve cover, though, shows lots of water. Sounds like a head gasket, but wouldn't the water be in the sump too? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 09:25:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8EB42838 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:25:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBBF403F0 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:22:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x19so4590283vbf.38 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JZRqV+6Lte3i5fvfzR5zof0aqf/yI5yxbDzACb+hYlU=; b=fplP3FY261eNqddXLlh+JFSZo2CtTgl+n9qd8teXJNPITObWWmt3AzB3ns1rKShh52 ovGOvvcAOdHlhjJIxPmsajm91tOPXfdKfh/7sHbirsHn6f0sYygE2JLNnaC6U7B+1PHi zLvZr8pUtmDOXsE85VGuoHNvuinG60cHgGIHHtDx6zhTgMaMuIVydhM+jObH3vYsNwy3 KOL9gtv48NW8+IiowhWxwh7AjA/zx+10jyN4/Lh4CUczLOSrSS9mYP6JxMHxIKfrveHX 7CEPksZYLMq4Jwza8hY0JKGLl2CeEdrGS9t/wy30fqekGyM+H8+GyP/DntQN00ZQ92ZZ mvpg== Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.228.72 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:21:00 -0400 From: alan salvatore To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Sticking throttle TR6 Strombergs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a problem with the throttle sticking open on the front carb with the car running. I recently rebuilt these carbs and the throttle shows no indication of sticking when the car is not running. I took the carb off the car and the butterfly does not stick, as I thought it might have been out of position. I even sanded the insulator in case it was interfering. Put it back on the car, but did not hook up the linkage, movement is good. Start the car without hooking up the linkage, move the throttle and it hangs up. I am going to pull it off again and take a look at the throttle shaft. Any ideas? Thanks, Al ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 10:28:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DBE4040D for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFEB403EA for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 13so2918096lba.40 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6i6tFh+1CdXQEWQ9s59Vk4dP3ECh8V4fxbIXzv8k2To=; b=rhaantyYHPVS5DRwOC8PhW4qlPqefKmP9PgKi/fuBSNauneQjdExbzd6FNPhn3cZcH lIvB1ZanhwFaYMod+kU4+CI/rXRRSYE9YRRNvswv5PL8SOwMVWLV+Cvchp3+uoHV/0gM SpWreGuuU1jbhflTxOMWfcWZ1VsZkg4OoaOrXA79MgpMDcS5wYQmxaQltAUfJFq6s4tU ltB1DEMQRGT01zrcMoP84Ef2saRcTiRqAvHdhUMAfrF9Vb/R3B14Q7mFurabiRhB+iwl 4DueoImEuQawYIG4UHZTRmWYUOZDuEvz5DRvzg7B3LfYhh98wFx3WiHnOHDGqOKONnje hPrg== u7mr5577747laz.48.1367166379722; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:26:19 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:26:19 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Sticking throttle TR6 Strombergs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Throttle shaft or bushings worn? Maybe engine vacuum is pulling it into a bind. Does it close on its own when you shut down the engine? On Apr 28, 2013 11:24 AM, "alan salvatore" wrote: > I have a problem with the throttle sticking open on the front carb with the > car running. > > I recently rebuilt these carbs and the throttle shows no indication of > sticking when the car is not running. > I took the carb off the car and the butterfly does not stick, as I thought > it might have been out of position. > > I even sanded the insulator in case it was interfering. > > Put it back on the car, but did not hook up the linkage, movement is good. > Start the car without hooking up the linkage, move the throttle and it > hangs up. > > I am going to pull it off again and take a look at the throttle shaft. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Al > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 10:41:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069CE403ED for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25B7403E0 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v1so249588lbd.39 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DPfug9/kCTZbuzNjqUnIhgd/mXwje8R/cxzTLqk0K6U=; b=sqnfloCpVg5HlgiLct1PDn0Iqe//8HbNkwHaUg6d5I2x+l+Y/l9xP0OS4rrbpVH2bk 045m3axkw3xiyAz6q2V5DvLLroejRY9mJhATt2tK8Gaov1Bqlenk2afBfCX9M4Q6Z81w i4QyrF7IlVc4HtMYwsRbspBUTWrHTzeyXpm5NEL66zLDQGnOFiqawHTKlNNV3KRsa/HF 0U8PDBQ2jVk3XX+kZe99WMO+9wG/NyekBzIccumv9xxSJzqc5qTboGiVM7Ute9ZdKwsO eYD95Ah/rQNdFIBmB7L8ioUvD5IuH9CWNp9/oGVBIKoSgayoG/e5C2QWJuMe+kwhQEHB m54g== rb2mr24665267lbb.12.1367166762168; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:32:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <7D.D0.16585.376AC715@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <4455092.58232.1367157160651.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:32:42 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Overheating Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Before you pull the head, remember a rarely driven car or a car driven on only short trips will likely have moisture and condensation in the valve cover. Ive pulled a few valve covers and found some to alot of yellow gunk in there. I make sure i get a good long drive in at least once a month. Helps my sanity, too. Chris On Apr 28, 2013 9:53 AM, wrote: > Investigating my overheating in the TR3A, I found loss of coolant in the > radiator. I checked the oil in the sump, but no white curdling suggesting > water in the oil. Pulling the valve cover, though, shows lots of water. > > Sounds like a head gasket, but wouldn't the water be in the sump too? > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 11:58:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC79E403FF for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF1E403B1 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HomePC ([unknown] [96.254.47.110]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MLZ004QZ892ZU80@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 12:51:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Ryner" To: , References: <4455092.58232.1367157160651.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:51:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Overheating Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the car sits for a while the oil and water will separate and it won't look white. Check the level of the oil. If it is higher than normal there is water in the sump. Pete -----Original Message----- From: terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:52 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Overheating Question Investigating my overheating in the TR3A, I found loss of coolant in the radiator. I checked the oil in the sump, but no white curdling suggesting water in the oil. Pulling the valve cover, though, shows lots of water. Sounds like a head gasket, but wouldn't the water be in the sump too? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 13:16:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5ECF40400 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:16:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDC5403E6 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 59CAD70020EC1 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dbe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dbe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.49.69]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2BBF9E000086 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:04:54 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Carl Sereda Received: from 99.173.24.83 by webmail-m261.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:04:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:04:54 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367175894; bh=4scq1Yc5WTm5rumtpxx9lYpyxV+E4pIa+sAbIfVGLE8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ah8mN+2z8NiaJmwqatpu0jjNfBPybJW/wR5OEP5gd60Fz1dk+wt4ZXjie+xCFrnWu cdovCFOr/85z3HSIC7DyDCPC88p0phjgPzuhUQdUwUAn8FwEHnuKqaMfsTX7KFfiEk MKjv2Aob25E9tt/J6XfcUsiUIXSvzHV60riJczuI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b517d72d6602a Subject: Re: [TR] Thanks for supporting my Support vehicle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Michael and Randall, My latest TR4 support vehicle ('88 TBird since '98) has good ventilation, cooling and heating again. Now I can get back to working on my first car bThanks for your support! Regards, Carl '63 TR4 since '74 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 14:45:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B76403F0 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:45:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF3A403E4 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:30:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.96.239]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id VYVD1l00A59t2Xa01YVEcq; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:29:15 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , References: <7D.D0.16585.376AC715@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com> <4455092.58232.1367157160651.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:29:12 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJ1BFTbqMgGHfsT/+87QPFrcBNbYJeelKUw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Overheating Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If there is lots of water when you pull the valve cover, there is likely to be lots in the sump, too. But before you pull the head, check the aluminum plug in the head: I once had a similar problem after an engine rebuild and it turned out the plug had disintegrated and was leaking (and I hadn't replaced it). It's a much quicker and cheaper fix than just about all of the others causes. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:53 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Overheating Question Investigating my overheating in the TR3A, I found loss of coolant in the radiator. I checked the oil in the sump, but no white curdling suggesting water in the oil. Pulling the valve cover, though, shows lots of water. Sounds like a head gasket, but wouldn't the water be in the sump too? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 14:46:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9BC40414 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641AF403E4 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.199.96.239]) by p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id VYhV1l00459t2Xa01YhVdW; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:41:31 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:41:28 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5EUGG8lv263oZ+QhSpCfWSzOX50A== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] TR3 frame Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to bomb the list, but if anyone knows of a good TR3 frame (no significant rust, no damage, no botched repairs), please contact me off-line. The closer to Michigan, the better. I bought two cars last year in the hope of restoring one nice example, but both frames were shot. Have a few offers from around the country, but wanted to exhaust possibilities before committing. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 15:31:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1540404 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE475403E6 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:27:58 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=bVNEBu9m9BKVmTidZcKALXQJy9YQuyhqLSq0r27P6tKToBfZFs/UYLP/eTmVnGEF; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.109] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UWZ73-0002BO-3q for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:26:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:26:29 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130412 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TRF TR 250 Steering column bushing kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I am putting the TRF steering column bushing kit into my wife's TR 250 and have come across a couple of questions, I am hoping someone can help me with. The kit has 3 pieces of felt. 2 are about the same length 1 with holes 1 without. I know where those go. There is another shorter thicker piece that I did not see as I was taking the steering column apart. Can anyone tell me where that shorter one goes? Maybe it isn't used on the TR250. The second question has to do with the turn signals. The cam on the column to turn off the signals isn't centered. I thought I would be able to loosen the clamp above the silent block to rotate the column to bring that cam back to where it is supposed to be. But the column has a flat spot that the pinch bolt goes through. So that won't work. From the manual, it looks like all of the pinch bolts have an interference fit with the steering column. So, do I have to adjust the steering somewhere else to get that cam centered? Thanks, Roger Elliott 68 TR 250 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 16:48:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608CE403F0 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:48:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CA2403DB for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Toms ([unknown] [72.95.40.163]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MLZ00KA6LP452C0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:41:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Note" To: "alan salvatore" , References: Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:41:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] Sticking throttle TR6 Strombergs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Alan, if you un-link the 2 carbs can you manually close the sticking carb while the engine is running? If so, does it close easily, or feel like it's scraping the throat ? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan salvatore" To: Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: [TR] Sticking throttle TR6 Strombergs >I have a problem with the throttle sticking open on the front carb with the > car running. > > I recently rebuilt these carbs and the throttle shows no indication of > sticking when the car is not running. > I took the carb off the car and the butterfly does not stick, as I thought > it might have been out of position. > > I even sanded the insulator in case it was interfering. > > Put it back on the car, but did not hook up the linkage, movement is good. > Start the car without hooking up the linkage, move the throttle and it > hangs up. > > I am going to pull it off again and take a look at the throttle shaft. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Al > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tom628@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 21:52:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754BC4040F for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:52:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C48403D3 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2013 04:32:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2013 04:32:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2013 04:32:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 88228 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Apr 2013 04:32:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367123565; bh=4rXV3aW1hpjg81FyKr8uKh9DvLQs66CRFip1Yf9OIYc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5g4N56rtdVNi1LOEwJrEgglcaBhQFUrXS1E5zMyeNrgaw3WjzyM3EWoFoVBS/VkTNKMe+/7ST5U5xR++7NJcLzdK327SY6zHRb6gSRTUkgVNyCmGmzkFplLvGk2f/jlPPttPoc1Ybn/K4NUQ0Z8Rf3s9ioFBX982txDv4TcrMdQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=26FUnGEpUtB4NQWEU+F7mltwZ9fMAnbOlfNAkczCRxp+kcUIdtpINv8SjgUydQpVY10tcniBr5BImmumz2eDvloVgiQh6mwYFcLetZEYTyjsbE7PnlJYCKZ+7BXGdW46fUY4Kfd9GyzlxaJzX0/6gAOWuHpLY+7QoEMCmePUZZI=; Xb3w6D_F9jAj3ERIAYLshhEJY7.PEwHx4K.Bcq93AEcoaRZo9aQ7vkXdzDTD YEliF4aGgMrS8TM6huPc751KlZDP7UJP6hkA8mDTT5.L0Rsmf64.lRMko0u5 HshB2Cd3u1OXfRQk3etmtnt0bplKqYCrIxYSkTTrmMft4tietRBUKuxHgeFG ayxgqpKXqbWnQ7k4ntuEX2HcODBMVB0h0VftTzO2Ai4nvNf4Ax67IQkKgrH6 JWpLDPE2S0JQ1_DDFNBuTsqyMyIc52YEQwdSWmdIw_z8Y74dJMTMVgH5STpu ZgXFQucld1B7JlrFqaWYFH.Rct77hKE62xWLPokXPtg92nboN_iS45awBUH9 HvmjC.Rzad97WWuB4p4cRwGnA6XqSWvktpOKDiOaOre40Jikyyr8OdqIXCjo ScuaKqbAVXADt2VGBazbU5S7VOoCh3YDQkAmipkRXQOoSf7ZnIgoYvLQI6bZ ogoLYInQyV.gLyya4e5SHyyehNuDutkVXk.v_qS8McXCztI_N1I1hZnxtBoB h7eNyFqBLuMQwlZ3yJFMn1VUevC9R7R5nLCOe6468Z026VyePuII_orI6UUp qUk_EIypTL1ah Received: from [108.220.117.232] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:32:44 PDT wqDCoMKgwqAgTG9va2luZyB0aHJvdWdoIGEgYm94IG9mIHVudXNlZCBUUjMgcGFydHMgSSBmb3VuZCB0aGlzIGJyYWNrZXQgdGhhdCBJIGJvdWdodCBmcm9tIFRSRi4gTm8gaWRlYSB3aGVyZSBpdCBnb2VzLiBJIHRyaWVkIGxvb2tpbmcgdXAgdGhlIHBhcnQgbnVtYmVyIG9uIFRSRidzIHNpdGUgYW5kIGNvdWxkbid0IGZpbmQgYW55dGhpbmcgbGlrZSBpdC4gSSd2ZSBnb3QgbWlzbGFiZWxlZCBwYXJ0cyBpbiB0aGUgcGFzdCBmcm9tIGJvdGggTW9zcyBhbmQgVFJGLiBNYXliZSB0aGlzIGlmIGZvciBzb21ldGgBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Oddball TR3 Hard Top Part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looking through a box of unused TR3 parts I found this bracket that I bought from TRF. No idea where it goes. I tried looking up the part number on TRF's site and couldn't find anything like it. I've got mislabeled parts in the past from both Moss and TRF. Maybe this if for something else. Supposedly it goes to the TR3 hardtop. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/8687107753/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/8687110161/in/photostream Anyone know what this is and where it's used? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 22:25:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD7B4040E for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738C940043 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fa10so577509pad.13 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1E0ByqsvVYbzBwf9mBAYCa6q0jp8GQxryXwqBzByArY=; b=bN7Hhl2RTLkk19NtJF1dVzDLuCTA1Bmj5LtXjfCc1Xi4LiQ0A8NbIPIPA5C0N4MlAU a9sdtaKlTXYtNa5gSBMMyWVF4Zchgv1nwgE/Ciy+H1tzbKBOGpKYtpFehoV7cwMsIOqj Zs2Mc+MRVvvjRJ8kriDHsewhGguq4COVBT+0QRL7TH82kcMaM0HQILgZbcf2UbGyL3Ty MteQHW9Yi97aOSPjr199MRIPGhB0UWR45l5032BkKJjCr4tZhOqum8n6tkt8WNQRGyHs crcidFzYEEujiITZUdhKgQM3rFGqEjhZUI/+8Z2oxMRiVr5V6UQu++Sydac5J+GEi85Y a1Og== h4mr35409739pbd.122.1367209414497; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-61-99.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.61.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id to7sm24080065pab.0.2013.04.28.21.23.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:23:28 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1367123564.88159.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Oddball TR3 Hard Top Part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/27/13 9:32 PM, William Brewer wrote: > Looking through a box of unused TR3 parts I found this bracket that I > bought from TRF. No idea where it goes. I tried looking up the part number on > TRF's site and couldn't find anything like it. I've got mislabeled parts in > the past from both Moss and TRF. Maybe this if for something else. Nothing like that in my hard top or top to body fixings TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 00:24:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2EF4040E for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:24:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE68403DA for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:24:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MM000D66714BS61@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 01:22:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "Triumph Mail List" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:22:15 -0400 Thread-index: Ac5EoUYzVyuPoK28QbiAg3ydgQI8QA== Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] LED Dash Lamps in TR3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to Jim at Litezupp.com  I have switched the extremely weak dash lamps in my TR3 to LEDs. See photos at http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/cfmtr3a/slideshow/Dash%20Lamps (10 picture slideshow) The first image is the dash taken in time exposure for 6 seconds. If you look real close you can see the Tach. The next few images show how I had to modify the center panel location to accommodate the deeper LED lamps (about = longer). The tach & speedo are direct fit. The next to the last shows the Tach with LED installed and the rest invisible. Finally, the finished job. NOTE: I broke one of the lamps (they are very fragile  Jim is working on that) in the Tach (it was one of the center panel lamps, but I moved it to the tach for ease of replacement. Also, the plastic lamp window on the fuel gauge (upper right) is very dirty. Ill need to clean it up before I say the job is completely done. They are so much brighter, that I will probably create a dash panel bottom to contain the reflection into the floor board area  Although, if I had a radio, it would provide light to it. I believe these lamps are the first positive ground dash lamps available for the early british cars. Kudos to Jim and LiteZupp for this mod to the LEDs. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A  TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 00:39:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F001340419 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:39:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50413403DA for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from c011358 ([unknown] [71.101.255.163]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MM000B5C7FPROD7@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 01:31:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1367123564.88159.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 02:31:00 -0400 Thread-index: AQJcUSjEOMRmtkYe6bAVSyTT2zC4ZpfQoqPw Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Oddball TR3 Hard Top Part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net HT1 is the kit that contains all of the hardware that fits a hardtop on a TR3. This piece does not look like any in my package that I purchased about 3 years ago. It does look familiar but I cannot place it. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Tampa, FL -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:33 AM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Oddball TR3 Hard Top Part Looking through a box of unused TR3 parts I found this bracket that I bought from TRF. No idea where it goes. I tried looking up the part number on TRF's site and couldn't find anything like it. I've got mislabeled parts in the past from both Moss and TRF. Maybe this if for something else. Supposedly it goes to the TR3 hardtop. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/8687107753/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/39699927@N08/8687110161/in/photostream Anyone know what this is and where it's used? TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 08:04:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316244043D for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31744042A for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:03:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 14:01:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.232] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 14:01:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 14:01:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20288 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2013 14:01:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367244103; bh=TmWtjDaYjVoEl85QelZqZV/SF6svxaMZ5Jb25eaFzPE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MoNUzegyiABGPtslkm5gDzTs/ZVMXH2fKvHYkJQQnNInuKq6O8j8ln19hbzxzKmZ/noxbJS7GwT1XHwdp3Akgvu14KuWafVwLgiRuAjRet3/7vls5Xmnh+t/PzVvgB06446MtZCWudF9kkGnvjcwvyFdIQ/wZMJuWhgWYJJfBFc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HER3jU6PgzAP4uoJH3v6WiwLWU/hD9/CUUGJPaGEs3mJ44Q46QLblWbaXsNJTTkM/+nNzGe2xVbGHHFCuF6g9MHkTDnnhe1RbDRitd3f3tSYqslso0sBktntxxSrrX0Fxu+rGa2inswvRBIZ8ZEo3RgVWGy5kyNXzMEJgySA6W4=; lJuyf_iaRG.usvqR.AbmqUC3R8iVCxo3U5QpqWUaAdDth52G0wnB2YLrWqXf 59Ncbjcv0jhAVI1zD0Q1AgQfYdm3nETMCBMK.bbnYzJ1enLdv2XuwWokWmBy N7Tg5obeRGyLmyVxraVcn_VIrdWuR5S44E9TqmVi3dlyj2wQo8L97LfG2wSg f1WEBwyA90oXokrACP5tAkKyJdgXufLVDnB2efiS953HiOlr5AT47UAmZlvW g7MXFka9DcvIH26x8NZjLWY0rw2RQvzL2UrASTp2aE2flf4lNPfTZoxvORs7 fzQb9rZZ1f1mtyttVkePLC.UPLJgXQCkDsE2bLmJC.diGOQVLj1FNRGKwyIR jQ60UyUi3jyY2vl3bserHR5ig1VWQngAVkLsNplFXpxyMtwdmcF7voo0Hw3U nWagTUepSqmT1k75uh0tuFs2AYJyxiyJtn0DyBKiS_7dHzw7JZhunhe3E2C1 oLjHlbpOLYwchvKbPTVZWahKLISLLOMA0Eh167y5YP9xuvY5aHlveJ1PFdJz R72qS4TKte5cEoq0X7B7P4b4LxPfyQg-- Received: from [192.43.65.245] by web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:01:43 PDT TkZJLCBqdXN0IGxpa2UgdG8gc2VlIHNvbWVvbmUgc2F2ZSBpdC4uLgrCoApodHRwOi8vc2FuZGllZ28uY3JhaWdzbGlzdC5vcmcvY3NkL2N0by8zNzU0MDMzNzUwLmh0bWwBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 07:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Palmer To: Triumph List Subject: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net NFI, just like to see someone save it... http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/3754033750.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 09:22:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0211640446 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241564042D for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 115E07001B374; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mhe001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.129]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C7068E000085; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:02:50 -0400 (EDT) References: <1367244103.19100.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: tr6driver@yahoo.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 149.10.144.120 by webmail-d220.sysops.aol.com (149.174.188.104) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:02:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:02:48 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367247771; bh=3ib4+vN1ak2Jwedp7lWrHUP8ECRw91WRjziJKyuF+y0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g6ZZx36CueC0dXmRYNMD4g+b1WvEDrJwRGukYtEUYcaTMztcxpvJ0h/6qG/f1nFHv yLF9QeXKkRa/Df1xW1wOrCCwJqBgX0da5wpaBUuHikcZtuzDbdn32bxtpf1cB/h88z ItE1J7ij+LDV7Fu05IRXExVzJGjXJs+bxdZCBx98= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c517e8b9a21e9 Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Da*n, that's a steal. Too bad I'm on the wrong coast, or I'd have it in a "New York minute"! :) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Palmer To: Triumph List Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:02 am Subject: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego NFI, just like to see someone save it... http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/3754033750.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 10:01:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0267340510 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B2A4006E for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:40:12 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=PCZhhyzU34ITMzaMxk6VhucDj1cgXAwMQbGd/XD4FSGKVjkTqugiPa6V1MOxxnnP; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-0c93ujd.cable.mindspring.com ([24.145.250.109] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UWqA1-0002QV-OB for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:38:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:38:35 -0500 From: Pat Fischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1366775480.69899.YahooMailClassic@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51775908.30706@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [TR] noises Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net And, please, check all brake pads if the left front is worn. At the very least, both front brakes. You want them to ALL work as a team. Pat On 4/23/2013 11:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > John Summers wrote: >> I think my left front brake is worn out. Is it a big deal to fix? > If it just worn pads, no problem. If the worn pads have chewed up the > rotor, > more complicated. > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pfischer@rmi.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 12:51:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C575740517 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F4B4043A for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08488A07BE for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:49:52 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Triumph List References: <1367244103.19100.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Almost close enough... mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 14:39:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD64640518 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16074032C for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 20:18:51 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.162] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 20:18:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 20:18:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 83583 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2013 20:18:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367266731; bh=rN/4Cv7diPqXx5t5eFkCwN3ySS/zyszCoFWNqdZs/Aw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1JcCYVRDT13ei7vQvcqUaqXvGm68FHJ702T2TNtgR3x5ruTimVyufKcGt2UcC6h2yIs4Pv5HoXV+HdLkUAoTjy/G99e5I4kSerP1+rH/StOK5Oc/hCKZ1bfB3Z4P7oJqJZofGMSyn2xOv3OZ3MmXUcg6eG1dBoEJgRO5oI9o7iQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sNgSLFQ+2VZgPapKwpat07qA2BeGglWLFmZKJWhZjYUvhECiBp8K7yNcLmsa0JN4LhfoMbc11u2dYsWnzbU5XYjmhsmyKBWm6GoQrrArkn14rPOWHGkx+SMPwDRrnat3NrfQnGON696VRNPKYtYKHTeg9zdzbbwYQjwStfB1tH4=; k7AJtrk_E1l9tPM9pNzoRo2rRC_tFP.seEKHJnCr9bJrXv_3YFYR8hHF1AaL 0QS.bHJVDYkRHyIP.YZ2Fz2asB2VGnfrR796aRoMWJhrKF7PRYaSOPalSgt5 xGvghc0l1sGJVEX1ZnqDWImEDHFAg_YbthE4sxMbR1S6BGbBBJsPxSv688vN IM4ACooI_AlfKbUpK4tXfwfWBwsnQOLQv7wF3A.yxo3cLSyQQRcTHpcxjBr2 UNUrTOCwnhZuGOjVyXBFfWch3Kt4b86AVwEv5FEUkBF1CjAoZM0boninJyS8 X914_4Ffpizh3WtoEtwOF6clTVR9II6L4AzAkIuAsFQ.0k8UMGSkH97DIPqQ 5XNkW33QsO7pSQkEovR7EFjQqTFnguf4KkKYISvgQqfquWSfcNKZJUsmvfk_ SYg26D4qpreiqZMa3wg5fMuGlWGubTkq4R0U9Ec5_wdToQZkhS2faz6yfxbP rFUSLmsz00CJppatv7bMX Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:18:51 PDT aSBjb3VsZCB0YWtlIGEgY3Vyc29yeSBsb29rIGlmIHNvbWUgb25lIGlzIHJlYWxseSB3YW50aW5nIGl0LgppdHMgYWJvdXQgYW4gaG91ciBkcml2ZSBmb3IgbWUsIHNvIHBsZWFzZSBkb24ndCBzZW5kIG1lIGlmIHlvdXIgbm90IHRoYXQgaW50ZXJlc3RlZC4gaSBoYXZlIHBsZW50eSBvZiBob25leS1kbydzIHJpZ2h0IG5vdy4KwqAKRnJhbmsgClRlbWVjdWxhIENBCgpGcm9tOiBNYXJrIEogQnJhZGFraXMgPG1hcmtAYnJhZGFraXMuY29tPgpUbzogVHJpdW1waCBMaXN0IDx0cml1bXBoc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm4BMAEBAQE- References: <1367244103.19100.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <517EC0D0.90100@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Mark J Bradakis , Triumph List Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i could take a cursory look if some one is really wanting it. its about an hour drive for me, so please don't send me if your not that interested. i have plenty of honey-do's right now. Frank Temecula CA From: Mark J Bradakis To: Triumph List Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Almost close enough... mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 14:54:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AC540540 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d08.mx.aol.com (omr-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC6A40382 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8957470022EEF for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.193]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5EB32E000081 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:41:02 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367268062; bh=lullvWzUxlLD+FEKcySPwrXbzGjx1giMYz9DO5I8Otk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ch5AmGGZxoUfVlFkAPRRAkOtpj9ESOBgar9S41+zojM3Nd7mZiLnzh3wjjqtPXEZf +Xodkbahkbzqau9IeW/FIAIug9VCZX2fKjHTlMHh3JIbMZ0z5Piun98ik2GYCODxXJ ut4MJMRdUYaN4OQPtd9JbM01ll2U4GGTExb8vsBc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9517edade06db Subject: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A few weeks back there was some discussion about non-black engine blocks from the factory. The consensus was that some were, indeed, delivered in a color other than black. However, I forgot what color. Can someone remind me? Thanks and sorry for the bandwidth. Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 15:38:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5627640441 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286C74043C for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:34:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 21:33:07 -0000 Received: from [67.195.15.60] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 21:33:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 21:33:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367271187; bh=BfzrQMTHy7AZVooYjd4687v/ATyf7ZTrIZ9TKIAFpbo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-index:X-MimeOLE; b=UgHsjHYBOSM2CA4iGStRNlMQP//gYS1SlMn+4fa3JG9WZI4asIT3beWQIHVuljrwFzqOO246WdwyRcd5f8nilxFQy/ZKuzdwypzAvtiTCRj/+BGvxL0VENWU6gwKQ5kUkttdz/azqR0dTMMqKC0KSS4OUW3yduNaMSjkp8rSu0w= 6xVOQgZ9l9hMk38wdh2uUWJYvrPIwfiBC1q0ntqAI2T9P3REE_ohOI3yzP3m e3qjf3A6Es97kq9x_rtPIMrZav.dyfA65Yb1DX6FLxmc8jdjklFo8dTmfm69 6JDcJ_rpc1uvJK8zWCmsYx2yYsBZtMr3EIrsqTZJEQ7P_LUQr1N2uLvOwpZo 66Z2.ZdT9pvwMtbjuWXfUwutXquOxsyj2V.ZsOWdTaT6Fczc4lE.cyAJRVmO 9m3XjtgEalBrqEurH9iWR_NnNkxEfHYRKDr_0DmhwIpT.Wfpkw_g1nW5m7kA Ab7hN2Dcu3S147cK4r_HtwM1VHJ8JVvYdLDYhJpP.QgNF3VRMlbrnmlUpECc P9HPQuTX9DAmChwgcxNVoaGYqtsxGH0Ku02oTCYJeKbOEanptimILRWa7CGq 4494lERvSEeZLQZinRKftSsDVVnqTcZTq8S7uwBqO9YJOF30S.r04J_7Ro3O g8x8yzIpIEsAtme9Pn4QaL0Zft6l1ylsItaMk8.Pn4MfjCH_7H_FLzlHhJwv 5u.bV9oD_sGloz7mn4MRS17YlmQ-- smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2013 14:33:07 -0700 PDT From: To: , References: <12471.6dc52f4.3eb034dd@cs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:32:59 -0500 Thread-index: Ac5FG5n5uFRjaAzBQtG3titSYX1rJwAA4bfw Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There were coments that engines sent back for re-building were painted red. If the number on your engine is the correct one for your car I should think that it should be black. BTW, the VTR Judging Guide states engine block and head should be black. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" (in rehab) www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there" Will Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:41 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Block color A few weeks back there was some discussion about non-black engine blocks from the factory. The consensus was that some were, indeed, delivered in a color other than black. However, I forgot what color. Can someone remind me? Thanks and sorry for the bandwidth. Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 16:23:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9623C40540 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B82740441 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:13:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fl20so3892077lab.23 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=36jQrs7hQmaYnBgXfjZh6wTgB6Svova7ezptDQL+V60=; b=du/qRJ8p797cRNOC5idabYL/R8XOAmn2fvX/A7azrVt5YPZFa8Ui8t/nTRovNEMiIm rPAARIuU+22Evzo+tM9KC8mP//3hxqm7w3aYMJhKKd0yaH1i7R/e76QZyrFZLMNiDQhv FlLPjqjPdpIkQJplpp9k3aCsIq2kccxOVc+JGN/KN5QXPjKAI3kLXgIkBcJzumm0qYSl iZ3/qu39p6/FZ7wE5Sw5VWWGcjR0OQK1CfsIWBArHfQ3b7IRZ6PAPK12nne6Sanl8zNR qOBhUc5p8BM4wrKdeYQdhRdGVOfFzs8YoVjgLqNMJIi9vJsi63mUpqOdc38urnxSVCXP yXmQ== vx2mr3323658lbb.28.1367273530499; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.98.133 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <1367244103.19100.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <517EC0D0.90100@bradakis.com> <1367266731.82487.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:12:10 -0400 From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I can't have another triumph in the fold until I can find one that gets 37 miles to the gallon....... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 16:56:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352F140559 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from sysfx.com (sysfx.com [204.107.12.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA8840510 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:56:30 -0600 (MDT) s=MDaemon; t=1367276090; x=1367880890; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: Organization:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Reply-To; bh=PddY3za6/PFA2Lurh98oNayWCxw9ycBHA0kF1SZZjZY=; b=ZpL HGyx/93/n7E/FC/bI9MjohNDf8wXpCa/GBGgFgSQhYBUpQ3KK8WICrIa2Y3brXkc MLAwygncNpbxFzDLodJYNcD+5Payt7vsaiMRbV+vfTgR9rQ16k/W+2i0L9xaEG/i 3vZLYodCacY5hAi1sSYYoh+bNvcqmf7II2MhZf0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=indiefilmnet.com; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=LLuRAnlnJsMC10VrEGihbvfp+hnmE3HtmZ14XfT8UmxHSBPGyOGAOoKgAsRR lLUiUJaI9Hx6tH1eJBvfCuYF2fw0zICbhcrVUBmcrBAVMwCja9UdTVPWT hliDOc1DQ9gtRwBgXgxTUOYvADh9VycevoFZGIOd8qisIun1RIm41w=; Received: from MARK-i7.IFN-MTL.COM by sysfx.com (Cipher TLSv1:-SHA:128) (MDaemon PRO v13.0.5) with ESMTP id 62-md50000132740.msg for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:54:49 -0400 processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) exist) (sysfx.com) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:57:00 -0400 From: Mark Hooper To: "'ccsimonsen@gmail.com'" , 'list Triumph' Organization: IndieFIlmNet Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Triumph Bonneville?... Mark 1972 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: April-29-13 6:12 PM To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego I can't have another triumph in the fold until I can find one that gets 37 miles to the gallon....... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 21:00:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7932840537 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664F74041C for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E932470000085 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.193]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C24FBE00008B for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:46:07 -0400 (EDT) References: <12471.6dc52f4.3eb034dd@cs.com> <4E5B5CBF02204845AFAA88700CFBF70A@bboffice> To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Massey Received: from 99.46.204.207 by Webmail-m107.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.161) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:46:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:46:07 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367289967; bh=/oUNYxIqJFGs3nmCq5QYWio14tMMFFgraK/l05AN3cQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cs6f4pTHwZ2oXGnvZ+KslWorTUrfiV4nAZSW1XP26o1VcW2kXIJuk/5lx+CvjsNiV U+NsvdqBk5XfAS/WhWt53FkRUgoyRcpVvrZMIzLUJtcewKbXTmID1nH/FK9W0On9SV cxcDxIt8mqzIjx09jOkct2pg/px7RowCPaSWcLfk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c517f306f4a1e Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Good point. But Appendix 1 (Modified Touring Class) states that the engine may be from any model car in the series. One could interpret this as being a rebuild (AKA red) engine. ;-) Thanks Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: wbeech There were coments that engines sent back for re-building were painted red. If the number on your engine is the correct one for your car I should think that it should be black. BTW, the VTR Judging Guide states engine block and head should be black. Bill Bill Beecher ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 02:40:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DEA40553 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7224041F for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W8L11l0020mv7h0558LPV7; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:20:23 +0000 Received: from [10.226.137.55] ([174.250.241.38]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W8LB1l00Q0qQxvy3X8LEzV; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:20:21 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?RGF2ZSBNYXNzZXk=?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:20:21 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1367310023; bh=cr23J5I9AwojxK3EPx1k5fjttUUSpJlPY3XUFSOcBIk=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X8c38As3UZXCkXmO36pUFAO7IkmrCqwyPBwMNZ8EjAhdkqD74NnuiP3eK1yX8Xnle wMrhsvq8vrXGZeGqMWTFzsFKGpyXAhqpOWdhVx3Cy35ektzIzk9h0T4WU0mcf0Eqms N62bGhKrCgpLTV0PsJdXVs6ow4n4Kswqy7J5FUYQyNndOfcj2ZW7aW8wQ86op5rLd7 JRz6De/tJSqi9jm4rfNMmc/5Quk7PysxozoosNBMNpdVSxRxNTc1yndbNynjLtI7Im Mfwsq8U9J7qsMMNOqM+aUJiP4Oms/ogK1yk/DjlXNC14oXpjZIUXSYeoJzsOdbuLUX szym+w7p9xxXg== Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Block_color?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe. You can spend time arguing with the guys with clipboards. Two hours everytime you show your car sounds like a waste of time. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave Massey" To: Subject: [TR] Block color Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 21:46 Good point. But Appendix 1 (Modified Touring Class) states that the engine may be from any model car in the series. One could interpret this as being a rebuild (AKA red) engine. ;-) Thanks Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: wbeech There were coments that engines sent back for re-building were painted red. If the number on your engine is the correct one for your car I should think that it should be black. BTW, the VTR Judging Guide states engine block and head should be black. Bill Bill Beecher ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 06:10:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CA14056D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:10:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A3340535 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EABB870004381 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.193]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BAB16E000081 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:58:31 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367323111; bh=WmKAPO7BwpLZVn8o62bUgw2N7bBeCxkpJyBlVs9xEP0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZcW+X1+O8Mx7NHfdTFJmmOvE2/+0gXgO4xdB3iaajNlOmkbJ4DJ4hL0ozFOPDZY3/ DVkTTZHLrrZqWnZDkHmU2cb2XFkBqObeg9sU7eEw4M3fWICA9TDmTFWXAuPFOeBty2 xGql1jVXxwPk+j7VveOa3fHzUrE39NegeKA3f6jk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c517fb1e72c2d Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, it's all for fun. If it ain't fun, don't do it. Dave In a message dated 4/30/2013 3:20:24 AM Central Daylight Time, spook01@comcast.net writes: > Maybe. You can spend time arguing with the guys with clipboards. Two > hours everytime you show your car sounds like a waste of time. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 12:04:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E804340E44 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.59]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 11F8C40551 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.238] by nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2013 17:54:46 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.113] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2013 17:54:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2013 17:54:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 45202 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Apr 2013 17:54:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367344486; bh=E6a9cuRw2sQ7JKEDIE6lznYD0gJGoK4eQYZ1iqTLnlI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LNKgcILLF5vtfJG9sgRF76j9By3poKm7ZYVGkJfPce3jbISJIxTCeP+MPRNBdyfywrV3smt3iTCy9aEr3W8FCcygoyVL9gL1KBAcJZ3qsfQgTpBxqJg8I3X81Q0mEyp99K+n3L4NSLZeCCYK/1Lo2c8biR5QdGDt0/xOMYeva5Y= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h8p6jLLjBNVDx5jV76EPuUjpVwI97GFpIZQZjKPyqdw1G0OQG+8omcv1wyfzsGFUiVNWKR7NDsot7dNJn0Ogn6BVikzFI8tUL+ujER/JdPkmWt2P1lqaRQ5cAN1Mj02EPbgRroxOlBv7HW75edYUC7SN6SZeMUb430LuT458JIA=; k3dLshC4lFPZMfjF4TkeZv4r58xAryhUF1ybpRKGTOAziB_t2MFJcb0owJf_ HdMExYdd6FNKsUEXD79C9.h19gFqHfbjhdyglOu95r0CXi3nRe93BlOPKZ.P rTQxyp9IAQiEopLCzlytXr8JpwXm0tJXx5dNZt7e15NNTU0CrlLfCINs47u_ ZTf6Mnaq2seRY_4XzgaDrD_CUVtm_FmUTYgX0.38rFe0fBo3Dq_rv2edAftJ qdg26HZubUZdlT2FFD9ICviYEJf9WAEXTtv6h5MUspw3eCuZA3KUut35V7_7 Sc4NRWBl8LbkoBckyimo10z2gEf.S.J_gE5L4SkaxPY2NBW6jfss_ZvwJ_3L fkcpewMmcLA._K8.1GWGyEM0fzo.zYlzIsQwlG1Mp0dyYbCoj9cHJoCDfeeQ XhxE- Received: from [90.219.227.33] by web171904.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:54:46 BST SGksIERhdmUKwqAKSSBjYW4ndCBjb21tZW50IG9uIGJsb2NrIGNvbG91cnMgcG9zdCAxOTcyIGZvciBhbnkgY2FyIG91dCBvZiBTdGFuZGFyZC1Ucml1bXBoIGJ1dCBmcm9tIDE5NDYgdW50aWwgdGhhdCBkYXRlLCB0aGV5IHdlcmUgKG1haW5seSkgYmxhY2suIEV4Y2VwdGlvbnMgd2VyZSBvbiB0aGUgc21hbGwgNCBjeWxpbmRlciB3aGljaCBmb3IgYSB3aGlsZSB3ZXJlIHBhaW50ZWQgaW4gZ29sZC4gVGhpcyB3YXMgdGhlIGZhbW91cyBHb2xkIFN0YXIgZW5naW5lIHRoYXQgYXBwZWFyZWQgaW4gYWJvdXQgMTkBMAEBAQE- References: <12471.6dc52f4.3eb034dd@cs.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:54:46 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Dave I can't comment on block colours post 1972 for any car out of Standard-Triumph but from 1946 until that date, they were (mainly) black. Exceptions were on the small 4 cylinder which for a while were painted in gold. This was the famous Gold Star engine that appeared in about 1957 on the Standard Eight and Ten saloons. Gold continued for a while on the valve covers of the same engine until the company was eventually able to get out from under the paint contract it had signed with Pinchin and Johnson for later models of the Ferguson tractor which was sold in Grey with a gold engine block and skidded unit. The company was obliged to run with the contract for some years after the tractor business was sold to Massey Harris. All that to one side, factory reconditioned engines that were offered to the UK and European dealer network and done by Beans Industries (a group company) were painted a 'yucky' blue that wasn't too dis-similar from Ford Blue. I greatly doubt any of this engines ever got to your side of the pond as their release was entirely dependent on good usable core units being available to rebuild. AFAIK, Stag and Slant 4 engines were all black with silver valve/cam covers. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 12:49:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DA240E4C for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE414054B for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 25BCE700000AE; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mob001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.193]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E55DFE000087; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:34:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:34:48 -0400 (EDT) To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1367346889; bh=YAKDBvHE0nAKK6bAnnnJMIJv2hahj8Li4E447Yl1Ly4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uHIXkjZ2KGOh0vIK0jVjNsONAszIoOzgEzXdBJTugUydlTQ0U5vlq25Ke/8FDhF35 p8wp3qZgW42N+wRRrhezZ24/FtVK/lz+wl06hj+AhS39m63KkWJQlWzb3uQLhNgXpF NapdJ7Vpd9AEJMev5LAqXUQVtIfNQxnVWuomQjzs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51800ec872c0 Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the authoritative response. I will archive it properly. Cheers. Dave In a message dated 4/30/2013 12:54:47 PM Central Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > I can't comment on block colours post 1972 for any car out of > Standard-Triumph but from 1946 until that date, they were (mainly) black. Exceptions > were on the small 4 cylinder which for a while were painted in gold. This > was the famous Gold Star engine that appeared in about 1957 on the Standard > Eight and Ten saloons. Gold continued for a while on the valve covers of the > same engine until the company was eventually able to get out from under > the paint contract it had signed with Pinchin and Johnson for later models of > the Ferguson tractor which was sold in Grey with a gold engine block and > skidded unit. The company was obliged to run with the contract for some > years after the tractor business was sold to Massey Harris. All that to one > side, factory reconditioned engines that were offered to the UK and European > dealer network and done by Beans Industries (a group company) were painted a > 'yucky' blue that wasn't too dis-similar from Ford Blue. I greatly doubt > any of this engines ever got to your side of the pond as their release was > entirely dependent on good usable core units being available to rebuild. > AFAIK, Stag and Slant 4 engines were all black with silver valve/cam covers. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 13:35:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886AC40E16 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:35:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFE64056D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=1hewM5_gF2YA:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=QJphAazSD6DXuQw-YEMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 a=2hzD-HNKzaDiCiLN:21 a=SBpGgaTabP8tCQCy:21 a=Bc9c7qoAuKlRg6BgnzgyhA==:117 Received: from [10.127.132.92] ([10.127.132.92:48741] helo=cdptpa-web01-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A8/12-02984-1B910815; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:21:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:21:21 +0000 From: Randall To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Block color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- John Macartney wrote: > All that to one side, > factory reconditioned engines that were offered to the UK and European dealer > network and done by Beans Industries (a group company) were painted a 'yucky' > blue that wasn't too dis-similar from Ford Blue. That's interesting. TS13571L came to me with the head and block painted a yucky blue. Similar to Ford blue, but not quite the same (more towards light gray than the Ford color). I figured it was from the previous owner, but maybe ... Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 14:23:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD68840396 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:23:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F0140356 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:21:10 -0600 (MDT) a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=jAjJz_QTTTEA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=AhEv-lp2j_0A:10 a=KONKCZegX5WaPjCnRQUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mSgXeSxJ2ukA:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:64799] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C7/0F-16585-05720815; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:19:28 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:19:28 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5F4AQer//nMQwhT5uRAi4Xw5/L3Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] 2000 Sedan for sale in San Diego Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I actually stumbled across this car when I visited the dealership that has it. I went in looking at all the other great cars they have, and the sales person (can't recall his name) asked if I like Triumphs. "Of course!" was my answer. He took me to look at this car, and I was not very impressed. First off, it's a Triumph 2000, a 4 door sedan family car. On top of that, the floors were rusted through, along with a few spots on the top of the bonnet. The interior is shot too. He said that he just got the car running, but I didn't witness it. It did look complete though, so if you were to take on a restoration of this sort, you'd have a pretty good basis to start with from a parts standpoint. But parts is about what I thought it was worth, IMHO. Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive