From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 1 15:00:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD932584572 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3EF25803FC for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 14:57:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vwm5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (vwm5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.10.35]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NED006RGP23OLJ0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [69.126.235.217] by webtop.webmail.optimum.net with HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:01:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:01:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Peglow To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 Subject: [TR] grommet woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net B > To: Andrew Uprichard , Harbor Freight Part # 67582 180 piece grommet set. Regards, Bob B B B ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 1 15:14:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151642580830 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91F325803FC for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 15:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55013] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B1/A5-26572-E4D45545; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:14:55 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Bob Peglow'" , Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 14:14:54 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac/2F08sVVFM912RT+GhhCp4/IbKbgAASBBw Subject: Re: [TR] grommet woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Harbor Freight Part # 67582 180 piece grommet set. Only problem; most of the original grommets on a TR3 were "webbed", meaning there is a flexible filler panel in the middle of the grommet. This helps seal against air and water. Moss, TRF et al offer reproductions of those original grommets, but most other sources (including HF) do not. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 2 11:35:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C77625845FE for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:35:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A8C25807AC for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 11:32:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Aic81p0032XD5SV01icMrj; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:36:21 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-322v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.101]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id AicM1p0012Azwqi01icMpr; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:36:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 18:36:21 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: "list, triumph" (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Spitfire w/ J type o/d Thread-Index: cxafv924ONNQhUMSQ3+jap387G6ztQ== s=q20140121; t=1414953381; bh=WAK32Dt0Ws8P8NTEFcfiV35BClL+xYm0GaBxqzDHB0k=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=s040BzDyPZtE3s5k9Dvc93RaKgpb+Q/Ve25uuzrXr3YdqI2EpxXqhkRDKzv3ovl/n kkMa0ZT7j4OyxmvcMh/VRkPJhSVD6ILfVMz4Yow+dy6COnwu/+QzBM4/anWCeLlX1l LikIDoLs6KRZsRHWIaAQe+aFlVmcT0zjAmq+xbpQaODR2IBlFvnJ7nfgXUebe4wRjM /ZEBbmPWAAe/5m+pCgBr+lNZUGKX2dvQKahU2FO2ksMQjoE7CuWpQfHS61H7khmr6F LBY7qqXMbkbxlafm0nGvbgl/U1mJaRZQFZcYALsp9fs7IWci8bwnuAegXvhrn2D66s 1H57U+tIzMLYA== Subject: [TR] Spitfire w/ J type o/d Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, B It appears that the top cover/shift mechanism on the late Spitfire 1500 w/overdrive has many components differing from the non overdrive unit. I have been unable to find assembly info in any of the manuals I have. Does anyone know of a manual that covers this unit, disassembly and assembly? The only documentation I can find is in the Moss Spitfire catalog which shows the components, but not how they're assembled. B TIA, B Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 2 16:38:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEF02584B33 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:38:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D732580963 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:30:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([173.59.227.86]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEF00BC9QRS7T00@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:33:31 -0600 (CST) a=Q5LpmvqqKKToKYF3dbIN7Q==:117 a=u9EReRu7m0cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=czq4-BAGAAAA:8 a=lVmjqfEJvkQ6vgGmsaUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:33:25 -0500 From: ptegler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: fogbro1@comcast.net, "list, triumph" References: <783140673.9203601.1414953381007.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire w/ J type o/d Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Haynes manual for the spit does at least show a couple photos of that extra linkage element you are talking about (both held with little square headed 'pin' bolts. The biggest pain is lining up the shuttle with all the pins located correctly before placing the keeper plate back in place. take lots of pictures ...shifted in different positions/orientations so you can see how it all works. After you play with it for awhile and see how it actually is working....then when you get the top plate and shaft out, you can still sift with the lower half of that lever to further understand the shuttle and pins. It's a tad confusing at first but not really all that hard to figure out. again...take LOTS of pics to see how it should look when you put it back together ptegler On 11/2/2014 1:36 PM, fogbro1@comcast.net wrote: > List, > B > It appears that the top cover/shift mechanism on the late Spitfire 1500 > w/overdrive has many components differing from the non overdrive unit. I have > been unable to find assembly info in any of the manuals I have. Does anyone > know of a manual that covers this unit, disassembly and assembly? The only > documentation I can find is in the Moss Spitfire catalog which shows the > components, but not how they're assembled. > B > TIA, > B > Ed Woods > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net > -- Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 08:20:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3732584F45 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:20:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282BD25845C5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:15:23 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415114329; bh=+GIuaku6MnYzG4bbwkuNVFQ+EC7Nh5i0lx8nVWClcug=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:To:From:Subject; b=YlevNxqT21oE/NaRuefren5CmFm6/YdHp/Pli2hoJ6FN1NLu3TdjQlotbFTK8zPy9kAdQpJ8i8L6Giv2dRkWixgNnIMmw5Ewj/vG2e3kW/Q2xUS63NWwruufkLmnolcO5lJtVeGifiqa9T4fQdBTZ06uHat9a3aLkNWwgOEGz10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; b=rFFQRQ/ibFfxv0AlH37nDO5ctvjScjk8+i+oWJ4lEq8diWiShjU+CfDVBp2BOinoL8A3jmcsrvT1csxW/msh7ZYr51RSwIjYL6zvSN6MmPcXd8hhv2gJNpq/krfVrhhM5VL1T++fn8++W2IUBCdV/cMPNTlPDn3zEzLLYKLgGQU=; Received: from [98.137.12.191] by nm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2014 15:18:49 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.194] by tm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2014 15:18:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2014 15:18:49 -0000 961nBw1DUgsKgquWIhLPNx5cFkk5fLEJNaUfgKCxgrd8doNKBR2Xv20pGkBe NhULcTEn3GgDxRN9U6T8x5u4qzAY.9TKfSvGcs0l.fFIJdjO8nIm0f5MAvR3 v7iUGRkSHjfTvV44GxNZeZM6iQBjD_KUUteD.K9jJKIhCZSKhMBnrn4RKGYV G0DskF1le.jwf6A.4QP2ElulHyVHx7CpRr44SvtrUlzhSL5.r2CUvfrdPuu_ s550xDuC0nBAz8QP5FgS07By0h7p77qDy4v9hoi2AKfvLFJZ5LaekjopiUnj ekVIG977_G3LLA2rq4RK6kaceSLyqFxiY_S.wv4ue3UNmZAUt.F66WUQM_T8 gJQxu1q0CtdC5oOguIZ6PTlk.nWVi.5hW9prsR5KptHygm5wMQReBYtcwl1w yfoc5_eJcyAP7cbg8vGSllexmd_g5X7FbhKJyCvWOSCEWnGdvjMAZ7Kz9pAC uJjtMEQN.1de_G_dCK.PymGyoCHU3oX9PJ1fCKtaoR1FShNTSOCFlpFet9l4 CPF7UD4iW8Qwb7McfXSb2ISZ1vif9nijc1LwuuW_fCGTaqeQ2olF3ODDn9KA xhIBA3iNh9sse7s0My6r_dA-- From: "Wbeech@flash.net" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:18:48 -0600 References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> To: "" Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't get there to inspect it. http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html Thanks, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 08:35:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308012584F84 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:35:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C1525845C5 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:26:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id BTVw1p0025GpR5q01TVwYs; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:29:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:29:50 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] cars for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TR folks, I have 3 Triumphs for sale. All are project cars in varying stages of repair or disrepair depending on your outlook. Two are GT6's a 67 and a 68. The third is a TR4A a 67 I believe. If you might be interested drop a line or call me. Heck, yes I have a financial interest... Dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 08:49:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77570258468D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:49:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93062580935 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 08:44:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.246.76.33] ([67.246.76.33:53026] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0F/20-25796-815F8545; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:47:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:47:37 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: "Wbeech@flash.net" , "" References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:117 a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ML7vOrLOuCUA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=H_HiKUT-BJAOJDfUFygA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=PHwOhQJzwZQA:10 a=jKR4yEvudwoA:10 a=DGTdL1YrmJQA:10 a=2KfZcTl6Mv0A:10 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I am no where near Omaha, but I did look at the photos and if what the owner says is true, it looks like a good buy. But an inspection is a good idea. Bob in Central NY On 11/04/2014 10:18 AM, Wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't get > there to inspect it. > > http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html > > Thanks, > Bill > > * ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 10:34:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AFD2584FA7 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:34:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A408E25846AE for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:27:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id im17so4474034vcb.5 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:31:22 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NT9JVhZiyd6sGVv0uX8Q8/U+oKDjmINDDcksbGeHpYU=; b=Sff6ATwpKQIzNRnpjAnj2we1rUsHrub3UE+BAlYThMGFDfriGYpEwJ+hgnJo+0170k D5hiyuj9c/5AAl7CM2fPvNlk5mKgrBSzAbNWtRjIXyBlSTvs0OfFesuF6/yxYTduoqJq 7g8IjvEuYQ/3Xq9gPNC+h2LK7snq1LXoRdEFk3YpUcrRP42N8wBYX2LZ7pVLOh7hDAb/ 0orPNILwyWmE+QvngmvHs4pPp97BWS3cX7CDtGZm4yziU6j+HYoVC/Uv8Po6Xitmc2mT WA9Sz31iWP1QZ80otORQ86CWSM84wpZz0dUiAk0IkgH9wVn+stkPE+VcZeQspT/BKhZG o7pA== Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:31:21 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: "Wbeech@flash.net" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That could be a good one if it checks out. Seller says "Great Restoration Project" but I'd rather hope someone would get it and use it as a rough & ready driver. If so much is original (as stated) it would almost be a shame to see it become yet another restoration. Geo On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't > get > there to inspect it. > > http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html > > Thanks, > Bill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 10:49:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED512584FBF for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:49:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com (mail-qc0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C66258473D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:49:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id w7so11135993qcr.26 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:52:29 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=tU5tvwSoXps+HNNclCIAgPW2E3lF1Ntw6EsMAeu2Ovo=; b=a5y+WtHn57JMmfINPHGGi81V/H5WeS/CYubMrAotqU6yFfKzJPGss5uM/zHLT1yGCD cU3tptXgh4EB3PlnNTsVdcu4ngcrjokI8PMnwGooDDIOhPTSHA/B0iyazNKWXlPTfC0B 3erY21VCZk9sxhxroEL3l5ZR57SGQzdJS61Qj37GqWIB7DgT8Ix7ekYR0k7O5PrgFL4q vFil68v/qk/V7dFeE9UyR4BAkOp49tFB7pO3VtKJiBf5ikE0VAA/fr8A6nDtiMesuz/T D5z5V12OlCt5awnfSURPm6sFE/08/yaCQU3tH8apezNRmEIGQSmSHoaLE9QKSBy24q0a XMZw== 60mr17338598qgx.57.1415123549320; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.18.195 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:52:09 -0800 (PST) References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> From: Don Hiscock Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:52:09 -0600 To: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That car (TCF632L) looks as good or better than mine did when I bought my 3B... in 1981. Price seems reasonable. I'm sure it'll find a new home. Will it stay that unrestored? Hard to say, but increasingly unlikely as sidescreen values go up on the world market. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Wbeech@flash.net wrote: > Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't > get > there to inspect it. > > http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html > > Thanks, > Bill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 11:05:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FAF2585014 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:05:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E81258475F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:05:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141104180905.IVVT30736.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:09:05 -0500 Received: from gerry9a94ed6c3 ([174.71.10.40]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id BW941p00N0rq0fA01W94z3; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 13:09:04 -0500 a=k3px3e7H03elae1nDx8n1A==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=FA5tMJOaEMIZ-4yj5ykA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=jKR4yEvudwoA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=k3px3e7H03elae1nDx8n1A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Gerry C" To: "Wbeech@flash.net" , "" References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 12:09:02 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I live in Iowa but work in Omaha. Own a TR7, had a GT6 and a Spitfire briefly. No experience on the TR3. And I can't say I've ever seen it at any of our local club events. If you need someone to check it out I could. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wbeech@flash.net" To: "" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale > Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't > get > there to inspect it. > > http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html > > Thanks, > Bill > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trseven@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 11:35:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA11E2585062 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:35:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0237258088C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 11:33:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so10276855wiv.13 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:36:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=y/AO3VkMFnTAcgwP6CyhsU4Vg0NYmp2wQptTb6LIXpY=; b=fyk4ZkkrApY+a4LTTGoDZhRjOS8/3oIj8llUiz/n4XvzuXiPXU2KgFKRmj6FR+EoDi 5a8KAnT1a55KHi3FjzUl1KYAZ4GNe7iBh3KjvJxtpMb2S8WopawITl7D6YzG0iUhpwJC UxMz6j6GdUf1bTHRaJ2WCpa+UfdN+3WHAAof5otYsBCFjUapoAWgshtNsxyvv7ZvfPur Ii8SpNF8wzMkIhzxKtblU/zGbIGU06Ot2wylz7SoFYaOau86D77DqhTXfoZVpLYjQ1qL eDArMA7k7BfMsdXUSdWW2Fie303Xt7zfOJdM5LGyEH2LCCjpYj1fI2YkxJ/99vo6aICY tzyg== j9mr56538506wjq.33.1415126194532; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.170.213 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 10:36:14 -0800 (PST) References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 13:36:14 -0500 To: "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Looks like it was crunched in the back end at one time.... Rough and > ready driver is my vote, too!!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 19:24:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D280F2584887 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:24:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30802580313 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:07:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [70.121.224.41] ([70.121.224.41:51898] helo=livingroompc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B3/E8-12284-C4789545; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 02:11:24 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Gerry C" , "" References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:11:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gerry, didn't know you were lurking on there on the list, I was going to say I live about an hour away, but I know there are a few Triumph heads in my club in Omaha that I could try to contact. I noticed the car last night on CL, guess I am not the only one who spends too much time looking at cars on the internet. If it is truly rust free that is always half the battle, I don't think I have seen the car before either. Greg Lemon, Lincoln, NE TR250 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerry C" Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:09 PM To: "Wbeech@flash.net" ; "" Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale > Bill, I live in Iowa but work in Omaha. Own a TR7, had a GT6 and a > Spitfire briefly. No experience on the TR3. And I can't say I've ever > seen it at any of our local club events. If you need someone to check it > out I could. > > Gerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wbeech@flash.net" > To: "" > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:18 AM > Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale > > >> Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't >> get >> there to inspect it. >> >> http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trseven@cox.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 4 20:53:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EBB25848D1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:53:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFABD258043F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 20:44:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141105034733.KSEP18577.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 22:47:33 -0500 Received: from gerry9a94ed6c3 ([174.71.10.40]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id BfnY1p00V0rq0fA01fnYdC; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:47:33 -0500 a=k3px3e7H03elae1nDx8n1A==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bV0iEj13AAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=F9xW0FAW-qwP7eg5W34A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=jKR4yEvudwoA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=k3px3e7H03elae1nDx8n1A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Gerry C" To: "Greg Lemon" , "" References: <1B9AEBF21695EA4B983355F93B5334830141FAA786@COLHEXMB01.corp.timken.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:47:31 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, long time lurker! Always glad to help! Especially if it involves old Triumphs! Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Gerry C" ; "" Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale > Gerry, didn't know you were lurking on there on the list, I was going to > say I live about an hour away, but I know there are a few Triumph heads in > my club in Omaha that I could try to contact. I noticed the car last > night on CL, guess I am not the only one who spends too much time looking > at cars on the internet. If it is truly rust free that is always half the > battle, I don't think I have seen the car before either. > > Greg Lemon, Lincoln, NE > TR250 > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gerry C" > Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:09 PM > To: "Wbeech@flash.net" ; "" > > Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 for sale > >> Bill, I live in Iowa but work in Omaha. Own a TR7, had a GT6 and a >> Spitfire briefly. No experience on the TR3. And I can't say I've ever >> seen it at any of our local club events. If you need someone to check it >> out I could. >> >> Gerry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wbeech@flash.net" >> To: "" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:18 AM >> Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale >> >> >>> Anyone know this car in Omaha? Have friend that is interested but can't >>> get >>> there to inspect it. >>> >>> http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4740646602.html >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trseven@cox.net >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 5 11:16:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281C525857E0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:16:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com (mail-wg0-f45.google.com [74.125.82.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165592584496 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 10:48:42 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so1543524wgg.18 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:52:09 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+zZaHRRdtmm4eo54ZuUEH2jpN1kkejBvgbSLBsNngME=; b=id+LMI6A4cxyfy3KgsTNIdUCDOEfh4vvIgxdgJ6aV7IYF2+zxPuB5uh5aqwipOcpMi R1jdWFvb9XFi3zWekpf2nPH9tMhASWPc8GYAo9vq1IdypHNV/swIqIlPNOZIErjD+Q+J TmCZcPXLF3Y09oQ8QkTLrIWeHW94yWPnytuJaMQ7cPgpN+3c7w1SJgwE94oK5zKOrip2 XQhBh8vlKCJhPj2cwBakRsOPo/Fu5yOqZFRWF9P2jq6nOb4zoLvhtkWCKBZ9BQWiaT+k V8UdmUwNzh1NDERC35XaKEZqAHBIayVnyz2KFXnHH/TCBjGR7dZ/Wi3SSym0HxjrGgGg TM9Q== gl16mr21094432wjc.119.1415209929606; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.39.136 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:52:09 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:52:09 -0500 From: Jeff Scarbrough To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > So, my speedometer is next on the list of things to be fettled...it > bounces around quite a bit. For the record - I replaced just the upper cable, and that fixed the problem. Speedometer is rock-steady now. The upper cable, even in stock length, seems to have a lot of twist in it, as if it's an inch or two longer than it should be. I suppose that contributes to the problem... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 5 16:55:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D19E2584F31 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:55:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED33325805FD for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:31:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.101]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id BzYy1p0072Bo0NV01zabh0; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:34:35 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Bzaa1p00Y5DXkUJ01zaaKE; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:34:34 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 23:34:34 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Jeff Scarbrough References: (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Speedometer Cable Thread-Index: gD2P1pFbZpNfWEIuCLyp5qp8UABO5A== s=q20140121; t=1415230475; bh=0GQTOjvnDGZONPoQmQIC92OzBwxIxCI5Bwkc/Bo3SEE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CqWgAYB8Fv2yzvlp1D2neR6cTH1STKGsQ2wJZkYQHko+1iX151jBNNpzeGKEXst+C O1Wc3jtp2grk1MLToNlPOawZdrcNBPnLm0EqFHS1wXzEpeFy+vOi62iJ+jVwYqL9cg LR7DMWinLaM0frDc5GgYfD8hzYn0mqxOZDfeOmFP5K3f3xn8Fwlyeqxq6bCfikUjbS NlLEdXF7Duu6obkcqqPRC35jJ/Oat9paXQPVcYzJLPhGTcRPQDBXdiQwS6HdfMT2lw xBd7KnZAyzJVPcYX3dhFi2hq0ooMKaatqlcB0MsM4HcFffQ8pRmzKJ7m/p56Mk2BiX mdqQfqmR0nZgQ== Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >The upper cable, even in stock length, seems to have a lot of twist in >it, as if it's an inch or two longer than it should be. I suppose >that contributes to the problem... Have to replace my TR3A speedometer cable. I seem to remember that it's advised to snip a bit off the speedo end. Was that a quarter inch? Terry Smith, '59 TR3a New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 5 19:08:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7641825850BB for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 19:08:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197032580A1C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 18:41:38 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:11459] helo=cdptpa-web03) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 7D/C8-26437-1A2DA545; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 01:45:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 1:45:05 +0000 From: Randall Cc: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Sensitivity: Normal 2014 1:45:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > Have to replace my TR3A speedometer cable. I seem to remember that it's advised to snip a bit off the speedo end. Was that a quarter inch? Check how much the end of the cable protrudes out of the housing (not the nut) with the inner cable pushed in as far as it will go. It should be no more than 3/8". If more, you need to trim it. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 06:41:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E010425853B3 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 06:41:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDDD2580A1F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 06:25:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hy10so521664vcb.11 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 05:29:12 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9EvQV6tMlrwai4iq0zWIkjsWAX2535FrkAsWzzc+mjs=; b=0HQ87T7d4X3+sPPfELBsn+BfKZ40wD5PKLGS2I86fOxrrPdDHoS4qikXTzvCQcO7A2 vPNa9cxJbN7R6mnCj5+O+MGYH5cNDY88g00XiguElqQzB0Kq8EZ/xd5S/ZZWKNCkDauH n/5992YfuuQuWULwNWJU3CbjsWNH0TYf0CGWAn24RLr0RtJkM1ddrsnwZQaoui3GfBtW yVVzUCeLoSEcBdxlNKKwXjjPPt2vth68tU/yFmtYrH3s7ZdvOd5FbVzLuz09RP/QR0rB qjzYvf5ezjcvJxfQ8VdP/uVaZkgKrA0Mx9lz2otFKQwwbsbCUfMaa58sPCALkkj8EgO7 D9XQ== sw9mr2483879vdb.5.1415280552386; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 05:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 05:29:12 -0800 (PST) References: <1139272719.89952.1415230474857.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20141106014505.R2ZRC.121181.root@cdptpa-web03> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 06:29:12 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Randall wrote: > > Check how much the end of the cable protrudes out of the housing (not the > nut) with the inner cable pushed in as far as it will go. It should be no > more than 3/8". If more, you need to trim it. > I'll add - when I cut a speedo cable I use an angle grinder -- never a hacksaw or such -- you want to preserve the wrap of the individual wires. For just a small adjustment you could probably just dress the end on a grinder but take it slow. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 07:40:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2232584EE1 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:40:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5C25844BD for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 07:24:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id CETM1p00D5GpR5q01ETPwD; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 07:27:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 05:27:15 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Geo Hahn , "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" References: <1139272719.89952.1415230474857.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20141106014505.R2ZRC.121181.root@cdptpa-web03> Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm lucky to have MO-MA only a few minutes from my shop and I'm in there quite often. Joey, the long time employee of Margaret's, who is now the new owner after her passing said to me when I showed up with a hand full of broken angle drives that "we don't fix them much anymore" "Moss sells them now" Anyway, I had him cut some stock cable and hammer the square end (with an old hammer press jig) and what he does is cut the cable with plain dikes then dress the end on a bench grinder to give the very shallow angled point. George's method is fine too. Dave On 11/6/2014 6:29 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Randall wrote: > >> Check how much the end of the cable protrudes out of the housing (not the >> nut) with the inner cable pushed in as far as it will go. It should be no >> more than 3/8". If more, you need to trim it. >> > > I'll add - when I cut a speedo cable I use an angle grinder -- never a > hacksaw or such -- you want to preserve the wrap of the individual wires. > For just a small adjustment you could probably just dress the end on a > grinder but take it slow. > > Geo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 14:03:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E752D2580BD2 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:03:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD06F25802EA for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:38:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.234]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CLhc1p00153iAfU01Li7xR; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:42:07 +0000 Received: from Dell ([67.188.0.29]) by resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CLi61p00V0dYjAz01Li76R; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:42:07 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'Geo Hahn'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1139272719.89952.1415230474857.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20141106014505.R2ZRC.121181.root@cdptpa-web03> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:42:13 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/5x9HCNT9qe+MTQP2HH8/rH7MoeQAOczcA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I thought about using a T-Handle from a tap set as a guide/vise, but in the end I just added a few small washers inside the nut. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Geo Hahn Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:29 AM To: Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net) Subject: Re: [TR] Speedometer Cable On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Randall wrote: > > Check how much the end of the cable protrudes out of the housing (not > the > nut) with the inner cable pushed in as far as it will go. It should > be no more than 3/8". If more, you need to trim it. > I'll add - when I cut a speedo cable I use an angle grinder -- never a hacksaw or such -- you want to preserve the wrap of the individual wires. For just a small adjustment you could probably just dress the end on a grinder but take it slow. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 6 16:35:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEE925845BF for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:35:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7625803FC for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id CPLi1p0075GpR5q01PLii7; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:20:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:20:35 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: [TR] '67 TR4A IRS For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a project car, but a good one. The previous owner started with body off work on chassis. New trailing arms, springs, u-joints, etc. Front end, has new shocks, and some bushings done? Looks OK. All clean, no rust. Engine is rebuilt, new distributor, master cylinders, tires. body panels have been replaced with "better than before" versions, so it's a multi colored car. It needs to have the body and paint done and the upholstery and trim finished for what should be a pretty nice finished product. I also have a truck load of the "other" fenders, doors, bonnet & boot lids, which can go as a package deal or sold separately to anyone needing usable body pieces. This is not my car. It does have a CA title and the black plate to go with it. I spoken with a few other shops and owners and know that as a project it isn't terribly valuable, nevertheless the owner isn't quite ready to "give" it away. SO... make an offer, make a fair offer and we'll see if this customer will accept it. Contact me off list. I have a few pictures to send. Dave PS, the only reason I do this for customers is because I simply don't have the room or will to store their stuff either after they have it towed in..;-) -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 10:55:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273982584C65 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:55:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f179.google.com (mail-qc0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1C22584C65 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:26:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id o8so2923663qcw.10 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tQmKL8LeHVQr4MTZkPWdJMr6+37MdNY1dCBjXUgIE6U=; b=dVn53UCO5hniwnblLxbGyySgL20pVeUkmlrR2Dtfo/1PzpzIPjowOswKmA19KOSwqb oiTPDZyZyOxk7VJEJTrDT/HFbL4nRjmHhi6Ei3KbaUVOdYB+GYO+WCBACclta4a2EIgU Mq8bwXgyT2HmjNzl8HDLxQLHUBnBBeVp6DUXjqyKEVmRpvfpKWa0ovdlCQmACIwkd04r dWYi2b2CdVrdj60psIvK/KGYWQHgTCtTE8LjpEJ42M2fW+EjGawqNFnFD1LpIZltEPUn lUs5JdlQuWoGDN46pVZB6cMCjAN26uqXtZnzCytl5QMwd/TlLWjeH8WJhKRC71apPs/Y AeOQ== a16mr18600098qac.41.1415381410032; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.22.241 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:30:09 -0500 From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Lost on I-70 in eastern OH? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just passed what looked (maybe.. I didn't stop) a fiberglass one-piece nose in grey gelcoat/primer, apparently a lost load in the median of I-70 WB at mile 145. Looked like it coulda been GT6, or maybe MGB. If anyone here's missin' one... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 11:26:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB69625855F8 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:26:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E56125845F7 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:58:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Ci091p0092GyhjZ01i22K0; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:02:02 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Ci211p00g5DXkUJ01i21rj; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:02:02 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:02:01 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Randall References: <20141106014505.R2ZRC.121181.root@cdptpa-web03> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR3 Cam Timing Thread-Index: M32+JYVIIOPytn8TSKRYQayZ9JnVBA== s=q20140121; t=1415383322; bh=v3L2NDo5q2t9D4r51hZ/s7oV4yF9ZtVglmPPA9h1t6A=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=c6AKFboIXvzAbJtU/pm6XOjjGu0sI65J+VYfseNR2wqSZ3yIVZXDHKf1EIBtRcEcr FRnZskZnCKZeyBPdirqt4TKMeRH3DdAePNVG9tAiF5sQSH3MAHWZxKRz8oeYC6jv0d kflxq8nLfGeHL7afaS+4chgjlko4Lfo9+MxJRH8Ayn7CAwBQ1kT5WkxD6FfWfTvStc krvqBwrNrbuhejsXCHiWfYT5dyXn0O9LdysaoyUF+dZFuaSoAd8ousuHEEVS0ojXBJ 8US0095Et+NK89jpcrLCq1PJE3x/UV/dUCbmw/W5+ANtv8wk4B9oENJgipeTGs+wvE QL6DCRGwx8idA== Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: [TR] TR3 Cam Timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Morning, everyone. I have no idea why, but the scribe marks on the original? cam and crank sprockets are missing. I've looked close, believe me. I'm at the point to reinstall, since they chain and gears seem fine, but am unsure how to set the chain without them. One thing I've read is to have both #1 and #4 at TDC, the crank key facing down, and check elevation of the lift rods. Then what? I can always buy new, I suppose, but ISTR that people were disgrunted with quality of aftermarkets? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 11:42:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE44258574F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:42:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5E92584573 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:22:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CiRB1p0044vw8ds01iRi1S; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:25:42 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id CiRh1p00X5DXkUJ01iRh9u; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:25:42 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Randall References: <20141106014505.R2ZRC.121181.root@cdptpa-web03> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR3 cam timing Thread-Index: 86LS9fBbAW7PitD6Qt+R6LpmWva5Uw== s=q20140121; t=1415384742; bh=3OOtOLROI8qNvc8jiYgbrtKPJXupcrtOkFyTXi5ywiA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=RUAb+47HKSwynF2BAvOwYcz+ENR/WU0/dMuq+UA0vkBWL3DQfzLjBiqqqf4+//r2t 8Q0pKiksNP2PQqBMnoV+yz71YAc+dcfmCIcVSo+Zu2IApAgntPtV112Thi5hRj92c/ AO1slo0rBV5vGhicsQzoh50CZMJz5qfrNq5sTU04vw9HOFNsOQC4x9kKDFxXVl1dO+ +eQGvip2MkQHSubADcyb2g3klIYYPLEUVwJyaE6We3GooowwyHwAHQv3kgtcQBTn94 dlAqYMfFZZDtOXaLjLYARKxH0hGb31+AWJn5ucV6BTcmHhXR7+yacSDhuxHA1ZSXyj sva0iXOj/DuuA== Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: [TR] TR3 cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net BTW, the punch mark on the cam and the cam sprocket are aligned at 11 o'clock. The punch marks, at least, have survived. So, at TDC, crank keys down, punch marks aligned, I think I'm good. ??? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 13:57:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287B7258574F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:57:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAFC258054A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:34:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 20:37:33 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.232] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 20:37:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 20:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 73373 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2014 20:37:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415392653; bh=X3++V1ylyw77P/q45zJ2HdyEiF9evK6wmBAOdfx1Fs8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UwLfcbHezW6SpnU9WgUsEOhnTXuBfIJAp8ESHUukPRFIgR+wxSVVdyLe9ie5aM6wbtKtGgtl7uThY9qMlSWHYjXHLCCayFVNP+V13Djeeeth0wMWZtPvQUo48XEmXoJYSAA1RRBi2I9i8isIpo8r/TAYaWtfxFpr6wCe0CrVc2g= _41DoW.tXLmOrI6nBT_MRc996DMFveARoYxyWMp0GsXpC6lVMpUr0n0vaJ3p o3h4mdwtfp1axa8mPqfNFZVxZYlqYFjBch_9eZoq_k3xzYVH0SpV77gXoMcf rFkJ94NStiTG8yGzztsAXjKt2MzrRWxws_3jhdyJKfXoTdJiY0LUOgqpwNmI bahlJDj.S05TeEwp5eDXTorDKQb5sEaOEl77CdvMwB5JNqwo0DR_ZOfnkn05 DKYvE.dNKhWbe8Uaki6oWSkCWmFw2AKNyKrviDbQPzOx9litA1oB0bJkZaca BrUWSHKVcFWIN8VKk2DUDKwauX_sTGFmjNVFD3p5Fgbsu6dP.PjWdEc1afyz 1uaUV1QEJjKFe4khAxi6Wj72_1TaaaYKi87EhTGqmk5scCY5fz80cjSRdS9S 2_ImSuCfRmcnwazbPHYD5NlkoA5o0GAOND8tgsIXHjDQN8uB6Kjg05PirbSe ehiTHQhlJT7DDSgTGfQx2oXnmO4QeiceIwPTVHqQSqTAQIF9pF_nUxdyEJ4a opuQiykQIP5xa Received: from [32.212.196.148] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:37:33 PST ICAgIEkgd2FzIHB1bXBpbmcgdXAgbXkgYnJha2VzIGFmdGVyIHRoZSBjYXIgd2FzIHNpdHRpbmcgZm9yIDEwIHllYXJzIGFuZCBJIGNvdWxkbid0IGdldCB0aGUgZnJvbnQgYnJha2VzIHRvIHdvcmsuIERpc2Nvbm5lY3RpbmcgdGhlIGhvc2UsIGl0IHdvdWxkIGV4cGFuZCBidXQgbm90IHBhc3MgZmx1aWQgd2hlbiBwcmVzc3VyaXplZC4gR3Vlc3MgdGhleSBuZWVkIHRvIGJlIGNoYW5nZWQgZXZlcnkgNTAgeWVhcnMgb3Igc28hCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 12:37:33 -0800 From: JOSEPH MATO To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was pumping up my brakes after the car was sitting for 10 years and I couldn't get the front brakes to work. Disconnecting the hose, it would expand but not pass fluid when pressurized. Guess they need to be changed every 50 years or so! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 14:28:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43425859CE for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:28:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ACA25859B3 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:13:15 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415395004; bh=uvcFdNbuT7uZKnhy9AiDGjZaTOEMoLdyTrMjjt+tIxE=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=Wg45zhHEgJNb2at4DfJgKIN+tvwufshVtlQowBv5c3V8XtAQm10YbNU1iGo9zkS5cSyeK/JvsfnZ6fLrSXZYIe+xBtmRp/Pyb3DMy9tUL0LEeeVuvJ/XzzjvMEdI3ORND9250TCumYeg+2cTiNLj0MdnJP2UzsE4AaCLRWvCN8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; b=t5althNVZ8pBnLkeCqLfmVJROT+C0andC0eIjvVfaOgx9j5X3AMFHHbBqryPQ1Tik80A2X/iEjehavk5mkp5KTBI9TPELmX8G09rDwASZIepbsBFlNeFMHdnI+aUqA4A+44rLmubWB96DWdk6nIeLK3Pax8Uh0j/3+xK2sjPEpU=; Received: from [216.39.60.183] by nm22.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 21:16:44 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.70] by tm19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 21:16:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp232.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2014 21:16:44 -0000 CXHWD9rMaqytQPksEq4mfFz_56tlFDY4R__.YyuS1g6ekSZ6FWMA4PUx5er1 1kNiHYIYJBNbcmvcpoFkVSzirdU_JsXqtAqmVAhokuOMc_18X3ZJ6WYs6lXl 6oqoQ6ZxDeECJAXO2CrNz_mI8t9616I14ybktVHgH6wG2rM886JNbwehIlkn 4VBUoaD6wVdtjEEyUgqU6CsrhuY2FjmcBO7X6Grs7oyi7Myx2OLkR1fXCFq5 AKgCAJInldsmma3xVfSpLzPA3shp6Z3LGd_XppbGu_LcF8Jyz.c_3K6D8DZe vYqZ.W91Xki3nKgooprgtmCMYeHnlPr28r_aNosFlXd5sSwWRFkeDyrc8Sp5 vJRQX_HuUJtbtkQPJecYelVQx.8DnurRpvoGpZYnDYqGQclVuIz9n64aHORx vLGpj6E4Cj4kQYFFnWmtzHRTNJ6goDWQuHb_EiJyYk9I5JwkkNfA3xhojvw1 hNv8sCU917paR2wW3eg4knujpIUIoGZtmZQIYtfSMmVIDIO7PJ150UZkKlIL FtGc3L7MgKzJn2QpAhuNQ6FRCZrN1k3YbypsPgPtcQw-- From: "Wbeech@flash.net" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:16:42 -0600 References: <1415392653.41641.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: JOSEPH MATO Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, 50 years is about life for the rubber lines. I got the SS braided ones from TRF, fit like the originals. Sent from mobile Bill On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:37 PM, JOSEPH MATO wrote: I was pumping up my brakes after the car was sitting for 10 years and I couldn't get the front brakes to work. Disconnecting the hose, it would expand but not pass fluid when pressurized. Guess they need to be changed every 50 years or so! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 15:30:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796CF2584649 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:30:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E8F2585A61 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:00:37 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:23973] helo=cdptpa-web03) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 3D/C4-10485-6D14D545; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 22:04:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:04:06 +0000 From: Randall Cc: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Sensitivity: Normal 2014 22:04:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Personally, I dislike trusting witness marks if I didn't make them (or otherwise verify that they are accurate). Everyone makes a mistake sometimes, and the factory was no exception. So, I would first establish an accurate TDC using a piston stop or similar. Maybe your eyes are better than mine, but I can't reliably see a 1 degree error in the slot being "downwards". ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > BTW, the punch mark on the cam and the cam sprocket are aligned at 11 o'clock. The punch marks, at least, have survived. > > So, at TDC, crank keys down, punch marks aligned, I think I'm good. ??? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 15:30:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3300D25848B7 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:30:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EA525859B9 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:07:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sA7MAkqT038632 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:10:46 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.4.5-GA) with ESMTP id BEO87340 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:10:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 17:10:47 -0500 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1415392653.41641.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> refid=2.7.2:2014.11.7.210623:17:8.129, ip=, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __REFERENCES, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_800_899, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_NXDOMAIN, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES refid=str=0001.0A020208.545D4366.0158,ss=1,re=0.001,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2014-06-20 05:37:11, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like a good time to buy our stainless hoses. Commercial over. Ted On 11/7/2014 3:37 PM, JOSEPH MATO wrote: > I was pumping up my brakes after the car was sitting for 10 years and I couldn't get the front brakes to work. Disconnecting the hose, it would expand but not pass fluid when pressurized. Guess they need to be changed every 50 years or so! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tedtsimx@bright.net > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 16:59:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01327258087D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:59:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A02580414 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:33:27 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:12845] helo=cdptpa-web03) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 5E/79-28400-8975D545; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 23:36:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:36:56 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 23:36:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Ted Schumacher wrote: > Sounds like a good time to buy our stainless hoses. Commercial over. Ted I've certainly been happy with them. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 18:29:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F0E2580912 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:29:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCFA2580414 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:10:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [70.121.224.41] ([70.121.224.41:53084] helo=livingroompc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F9/75-10485-06E6D545; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 01:14:09 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Randall" References: <20141107220406.ZMN4F.157172.root@cdptpa-web03> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:14:04 -0600 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Setting cam timing is an interesting process, if you haven't done it before it can be a little daunting, there are lots of instructions out there on the web and most any if them should be adequate, HOWEVER, I read through a bunch of them, some of them I thought were much harder to follow than others, and I also recall there is more than one method to doing it, and some made more sense to me than others as well, anyway I read a bunch of the online instructions until I felt I had the theory down pretty good, then printed out the ones that seemed to make the most sense and had at it. You can buy a degree wheel pretty cheap, or you can make one ever cheaper by printing one out found from an online search and then gluing it to some thin cardboard, and practicing your kindergarten skills by cutting out a circle along the lines. After I did it I had another set of eyes come over to double check my work, the old carpenter's adage, measure twice, etc. I will also add that I don't think it degreed out quite perfect on a particular sprocket, so I went with the closest one, don't know if this was normal, or because the cam was reground, or because my measurements were not 100 percent precise. Anyhow must have turned out OK. If you don't build engines on a regular basis I think the recipe for success is to read the manual and online sources, go out and do the job, take a break, sleep on it, etc., come back and double check all work, then move on the the next step. I am by no means the worlds best mechanic, but that is the method I have followed with the small number of motors I have rebuilt or substantially refurbished, and it has always turned out OK. Greg Lemon -------------------------------------------------- From: "Randall" Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 4:04 PM Cc: Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cam timing > Personally, I dislike trusting witness marks if I didn't make them (or > otherwise verify that they are accurate). Everyone makes a mistake > sometimes, and the factory was no exception. > > So, I would first establish an accurate TDC using a piston stop or > similar. Maybe your eyes are better than mine, but I can't reliably see a > 1 degree error in the slot being "downwards". > > ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: >> BTW, the punch mark on the cam and the cam sprocket are aligned at 11 >> o'clock. The punch marks, at least, have survived. >> >> So, at TDC, crank keys down, punch marks aligned, I think I'm good. ??? >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3driver@ca.rr.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 7 23:01:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5352584450 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 23:01:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBD42580852 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:34:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55025] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 56/E9-28400-71CAD545; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:37:27 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 21:37:26 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/68+AN4ahTwivbSb+eQObYN1DrfAAISEjQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > there are lots of instructions > out there on the web and most any if them should be adequate, Except that the TR3 motor (or more specifically it's camshaft) has a special property that makes it much easier to set or check valve timing without the use of a degree wheel or dial indicator. You can go through all that stuff with checking lift and so on if you want; but I find the method given in the workshop manual to be a lot easier. Plus, it only requires a set of feeler gauges and some way to accurately find TDC. If you have the cam cover and front pulley installed, the factory TDC mark will do. If not, use a piston stop and pencil marks on the flywheel (or similar). And of course everything you read on the Internet is true. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 02:17:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8767E2584584 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 02:17:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailfilter2.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter2.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0CD258076E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 01:55:14 -0700 (MST) cv=EQw8u8BrXRhoan7ZNug3AfOw94KFvvjRz7cGyoowhf0= c=1 sm=2 a=pa_Zk1nx0A7vJaHz6O0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Ux_lAmdlnW47juktWRIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 d="scan'208,217";a="162085429" Received: from 118-93-190-173.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO Davidslaptop) ([118.93.190.173]) by cust.filter2.content.vf.net.nz with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2014 21:58:42 +1300 From: "David Greed" To: , Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:58:45 +1300 Thread-Index: Ac/7MP328t00ibYaT5avNkQ63StyMQ== Content-Language: en-nz Subject: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi there It has been a while since I have been looking at these lists, so please forgive me if this question has been asked. I have recently started driving my Stag again after a long period (5 years). The overdrive is working, but only after the car has driven for about 10 kilometers or so. Once it kicks in the first time, it works perfectly from thereon. The lock out switch was suspected, and the lucar connections to it were loose, so these have been replaced, but the switch itself has tested fine. I hope it is not some anomaly the switch, because it is a real pain to get to. (dropping the gearbox mounting frame which means undoing the from exhaust pipes. My thinking is the gearbox oil and possibly the filters - thoughts? DavidG ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 08:19:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDA225846F1 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:19:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S26.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s26.hotmail.com [65.55.116.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E802258459E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 07:57:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU168-DS23 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S26.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 8 Nov 2014 07:01:21 -0800 From: Creig Houghtaling To: "'JOSEPH MATO'" , References: <1415392653.41641.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:01:26 -0600 Thread-Index: AQJ496f0cn+o8bBnv4PgiVBqvMSj3JsE2aXw Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[DBC29EA0:01CFFB64] Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I rebuilt a pair of TR6 front calipers just to find afterward that the hoses were blocked. Creig -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JOSEPH MATO Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 2:38 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] tr-3 brake hoses I was pumping up my brakes after the car was sitting for 10 years and I couldn't get the front brakes to work. Disconnecting the hose, it would expand but not pass fluid when pressurized. Guess they need to be changed every 50 years or so! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/creig555@live.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 08:35:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CA32584750 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:35:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C04258459E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:08:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa11-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id D3Bi1p0035GpR5q013BiGn; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 08:11:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 06:11:33 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <042f01cffb32$346255b0$9d270110$@wave.co.nz> Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a bit of a guess. I'm thoroughly 'versed" on the early O/D's but over the years haven't had many opportunities to work on the J's. Anyway, I'm going to say that the long inactivity has degraded the oil, such that it is too viscose until it is warmed by the 10k of driving. The J has a relief valve which is "sensing" this condition and not engaging until the pressure drops. You may have used 80-90 gear oil in the gear box as well, exacerbating the problem . I'd drain both units and replace with 30wt non detergent or ATF or one of the modern specialist gearbox oils. Then see if the problem recurs. Dave PS You might contact Magnus Carlson over on the Healey list or Ted Schmacher on this list. They may be more familiar with that J symptom On 11/8/2014 1:58 AM, David Greed wrote: > Hi there > > > > It has been a while since I have been looking at these lists, so please > forgive me if this question has been asked. > > > > I have recently started driving my Stag again after a long period (5 years). > > > > The overdrive is working, but only after the car has driven for about 10 > kilometers or so. Once it kicks in the first time, it works perfectly from > thereon. The lock out switch was suspected, and the lucar connections to it > were loose, so these have been replaced, but the switch itself has tested > fine. I hope it is not some anomaly the switch, because it is a real pain to > get to. (dropping the gearbox mounting frame which means undoing the from > exhaust pipes. > > > > My thinking is the gearbox oil and possibly the filters - thoughts? > > > > > > DavidG > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 09:34:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65A625846AB for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:34:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CD2258086E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:10:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55015] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E4/03-12271-B314E545; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:13:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:13:47 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/7ahJZ5ljwVj6uRgGSSpMc9O4g8QAAuXpA Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The J has a relief valve which is "sensing" this condition and not > engaging until the pressure drops. Doesn't work that way. The "relief" valve regulates the pressure by relieving any excess back to the sump. It is normally slightly open all the time and only varies how much to keep the desired pressure; either around 20 psi when idle or 550 psi when operating. > You may have used 80-90 > gear oil in > the gear box as well, exacerbating the problem . Just to be clear about this, 90 weight GL5 gear oil is the factory-recommended fill for temperatures above -10C. For temperatures below +10C they allow 80W GL5 gear oil. So 80W90 should be perfect in all temperatures (since the 80W rating is for 0C and the 90 part is for 100C). > I'd drain both units > and replace with 30wt non detergent Which would actually be thicker at the same temperature than 80W gear oil; plus not have the additives to protect the gear faces. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 10:05:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3302584AC7 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:05:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633382584726 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:42:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id D4le1p0065GpR5q014legH; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:45:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 07:45:30 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Randall , triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll defer to Randall, since he seems to know. I will say I recall when the Factory sent a team of engineers to this Country and our shop (one day) to determine why so many gear boxes were failing.. They consequently discontinued the use of gear oil in the boxes. problem fixed. Just saying Randall. Dave On 11/8/2014 9:13 AM, Randall wrote: >> The J has a relief valve which is "sensing" this condition and not >> engaging until the pressure drops. > Doesn't work that way. The "relief" valve regulates the pressure by relieving any excess back to the sump. It is normally slightly > open all the time and only varies how much to keep the desired pressure; either around 20 psi when idle or 550 psi when operating. > >> You may have used 80-90 >> gear oil in >> the gear box as well, exacerbating the problem . > Just to be clear about this, 90 weight GL5 gear oil is the factory-recommended fill for temperatures above -10C. For temperatures > below +10C they allow 80W GL5 gear oil. So 80W90 should be perfect in all temperatures (since the 80W rating is for 0C and the 90 > part is for 100C). > >> I'd drain both units >> and replace with 30wt non detergent > Which would actually be thicker at the same temperature than 80W gear oil; plus not have the additives to protect the gear faces. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 10:35:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6CA2584AC7 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:35:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C4E2584905 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:06:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 50/53-12271-96E4E545; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:10:01 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:10:02 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/7dtVOdQHUL/16RYWPsEnh0i+H+w== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 cam timing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Question: how many degrees on the cam or the crank would one > tooth make? Anybody know offhand? ISTR a 1/4 tooth adjustment (the smallest possible) is about 4 degrees, so a full tooth should be about 16 degrees. That can't be exactly right, but should be close. To get the right number, count the teeth on the crank sprocket (since we're talking crank degrees) and divide 360 by the number of teeth. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 15:22:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942D25809C1 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 15:22:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D1225808A7 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:54:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55008] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id E9/13-12271-3D19E545; Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:57:39 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:57:40 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/7ivFVAlPb84/YRmmnJMcbJ/e95gAEkeTw Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > A much renowned small British oil producer and distributor > recommended 80W90 > GL4 gear oil for my TR but recommended 20W50 engine oil for my MGB. > Work that one out if you can! Which overdrives? They aren't all the same. The J-type pretty much didn't care, it would run in whatever the gearbox maker specified. Probably work fine with sperm oil! For the A-type, Laycock always said to use non-detergent motor oil. Standard-Triumph started out saying "whatever", then switched to the Laycock recommendation, then around 1960 switched back to only GL4 gear oil (GL5 didn't exist back then). The story as I heard it (from an old dealer mechanic who got it from an old factory engineer) was that they felt they had fewer (warranty) failures overall using gear oil, even though that was opposite the Laycock recommendation. But, AFAIK, MGB never had the A-type. And evidently, their gearbox held up OK with motor oil, so that's what they used. The important point, I feel, is that neither type of oil is going to cause instant overdrive malfunction. If it doesn't work at all, there is something else wrong. It's possible that using the wrong oil might make it wear out faster, or more apt to break thrust washers or whatever; but changing oil isn't going to fix those problems once they have happened. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 19:09:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4054E2584B42 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:09:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C492580706 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:41:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from AdrianPC ([86.29.58.58]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id DDlF1p00W1FNdY601DlFQC; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 01:45:15 +0000 a=TO9cvixiQaxsamF46adMRQ==:117 a=TO9cvixiQaxsamF46adMRQ==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=gPYF_ZE2P-WK-eY7pFUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Dixie4" To: "Randall" , References: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 01:46:46 -0000 Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Randall, In an earlier post on this thread I said I had a non working overdrive after a gearbox oil change. This was in fact on an MGB I owned where I put in SAE 80W90 in error. Drained and changed to the correct grade of SAE 20W50 and the overdrive worked again. I can only speak of a personal experience. Regards, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity >> A much renowned small British oil producer and distributor >> recommended 80W90 >> GL4 gear oil for my TR but recommended 20W50 engine oil for my MGB. >> Work that one out if you can! > > Which overdrives? They aren't all the same. The J-type pretty much > didn't care, it would run in whatever the gearbox maker > specified. Probably work fine with sperm oil! > > For the A-type, Laycock always said to use non-detergent motor oil. > Standard-Triumph started out saying "whatever", then switched > to the Laycock recommendation, then around 1960 switched back to only GL4 > gear oil (GL5 didn't exist back then). The story as I > heard it (from an old dealer mechanic who got it from an old factory > engineer) was that they felt they had fewer (warranty) failures > overall using gear oil, even though that was opposite the Laycock > recommendation. > > But, AFAIK, MGB never had the A-type. And evidently, their gearbox held > up OK with motor oil, so that's what they used. > > The important point, I feel, is that neither type of oil is going to cause > instant overdrive malfunction. If it doesn't work at > all, there is something else wrong. It's possible that using the wrong > oil might make it wear out faster, or more apt to break > thrust washers or whatever; but changing oil isn't going to fix those > problems once they have happened. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8533 - Release Date: 11/08/14 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 07:44:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150D225844D8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:44:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F1025806FE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:24:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.7.213]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id DSU01p00B4bmZBa01SU9W1; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:28:10 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:28:31 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/8KS6SIf8RlfLlQ/aARkT275XwRQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: Is it true that it doesn't matter which way one wires the coil (for example after converting a car from positive to negative ground), but it is important that the center electrode of the spark plug is always negative? Andrew Uprichard Always learning something new... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 08:45:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822762584A92 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 49986258468C for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:17:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 20457 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 2014 15:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Nov 2014 15:20:38 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id DZLY1p00K1NzpT901ZLbsr; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:20:37 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=xd9uZGyThikKg4IWFqoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=56275 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XnUI4-000241-W7; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 08:20:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 09:20:28 -0600 To: "Andrew Uprichard" , From: Tony Drews References: <001501cffc29$75fe4310$61fac930$@uprichard.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The center electrode will be the opposite of the ground that you're using. Negative ground = positive center electrode, Positive ground = negative center electrode. Has to be that way to produce a spark - otherwise there's no current flow. I believe that the coil has a + and - connector but need to go look again to be sure. Tony Drews At 08:28 AM 11/9/2014, Andrew Uprichard wrote: >List: Is it true that it doesn't matter which way one wires the coil (for >example after converting a car from positive to negative ground), but it is >important that the center electrode of the spark plug is always negative? > > > >Andrew Uprichard > >Always learning something new... > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 08:46:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C802584ADE for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:46:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289EB258468C for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:20:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55018] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CA/C4-16394-C078F545; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:23:56 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:23:56 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/8KS6SIf8RlfLlQ/aARkT275XwRQABjKkg Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > List: Is it true that it doesn't matter which way one wires > the coil (for > example after converting a car from positive to negative > ground), but it is > important that the center electrode of the spark plug is > always negative? Well, no. Since you can't change the connections inside the coil, the polarity of the primary side is what determines the spark polarity. But, spark polarity makes only a tiny difference, not normally enough to notice. Many people have gotten it backwards, and the engine still runs "fine". There are even engines that deliberately fire every other plug "backwards". So, in that sense, it doesn't matter. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 09:16:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDD62584B39 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:16:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75192584934 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:48:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [70.121.224.41] ([70.121.224.41:51871] helo=livingroompc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 7B/9C-16394-4BD8F545; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:52:20 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , References: <001501cffc29$75fe4310$61fac930$@uprichard.net> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:52:15 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No to number one, yes to number two, at least according to this article as I read it, and reversing the coil wires when you switch polarity is how you keep it that way. The car will generally run fine wired either way, but if something else is marginal or a stronger spark is needed you get a better spark if it is wired to have the center electrode negative. http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig104.htm Greg Lemon TR250 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Uprichard" Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:28 AM To: Subject: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity > List: Is it true that it doesn't matter which way one wires the coil (for > example after converting a car from positive to negative ground), but it > is > important that the center electrode of the spark plug is always negative? > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > Always learning something new... > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 09:45:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D244D2584B35 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:45:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com (mail-vc0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF35625845C5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:20:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hy10so3251848vcb.12 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 08:23:53 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iGAYD/jDvNl3NW594jX/EaTBbi6kX374GdbacJQxXFQ=; b=ZqJLofhbZlSEY5Xk7ChIK0c99QdGqoYVu44w/0Xpa9qG7r5AB+kYWJyC+7jcKtIp1w uXhzZSFLHRDbNmVMwgC0Pzi4gDQtatIwjOAvOuRUTgsDO/Z4jnJPDX1iCs06Vw+JGDIM KLp2fyNsKgT7CMqV6GaUnLFYCiA6kaLrnu2HBYI2R7aNjmgxpLP57neR0KCMBzsaGusP deUSWcmZw0ETgexsy37zbkHq696Q//r0t0jMtH5dbFKwQ26BHo7KB5c37yBIcvNSrREs X41DK4//RlWOr+82J8cY29hrgYQorrLao8KWMSYGJMl+EuxedzSMokpELeU6x7WjIxNc NfJw== q4mr491879vcu.36.1415550233813; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 08:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 08:23:53 -0800 (PST) References: <001501cffc29$75fe4310$61fac930$@uprichard.net> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 09:23:53 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: List: Is it true that it doesn't matter which way one wires the coil (for > example after converting a car from positive to negative ground)... Though spark polarity may be of little import -- it has always been my understanding that coil polarity needs to be correct for the polarity of the car. IOW, on a positive ground car the little (white/black) wire from the coil to the distributor should be connected to the coil post marked '+'. Easy to remember if you think about how that feed is an intermittent ground (interrupted each time the points open). Earlier coils were marked CB (contact breaker) and SW (switch) but as far as I know those marks were made with positive ground cars in mind so 'CB'='+' and 'SW'='-'. The ignition will still work with coil polarity reversed but I think the points will not last as long. OTOH, maybe this is just an old mechanics' wives tale that I believed and am repeating. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 11:16:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0472584BE1 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:16:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A2A2584AC9 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 10:50:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa11-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id DVtd1p0024oFfFQ01VtdwT; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 10:53:39 -0700 From: "dave n" To: , "Tony Drews" References: <001501cffc29$75fe4310$61fac930$@uprichard.net> <20141109154552.203422584A40@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:46:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net most coils have a + and a - btw - if you hook up a pertronix and wire the coil backwards, you will either be going back to points or buying a new one ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 12:02:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D8F25849D0 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 12:02:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63763258443B for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:44:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55010] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A0/33-02908-2E6BF545; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:48:03 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 10:48:02 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/8OOgiGqEa/qanTnaqeJEZsGPlvgAFE3EQ Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > No to number one, yes to number two, at least according to > this article as I read it, You read it right, and Barney did a great write-up (although I don't believe the difference is anywhere near 15-20%). BTW, this effect is the same way that vacuum tube diodes work. By heating the cathode, it is much easier for electrons (aka current) to flow to the plate when the plate is positive. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 14:03:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B80C2584BD2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:03:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60D525808BB for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:45:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078922C02A4 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 13:48:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:48:57 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <001501cffc29$75fe4310$61fac930$@uprichard.net> <20141109154552.203422584A40@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net dave n wrote: > most coils have a + and a - Some have SW and CB - SW goes to the ignition switch, CB to the contact breaker. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 14:32:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F52584612 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:32:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0872584A4F for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:05:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (184-97-248-236.mpls.qwest.net [184.97.248.236]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NES00K4NIRE2W40@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 21:09:15 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-09_03:2014-11-07,2014-11-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411090200 From: Joe DeMuth Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:09:13 -0600 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6 Seat Tilt Lever Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 16:19:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409F9258472C for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:19:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594A525844D2 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:01:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.144]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 68FCE38000049 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ama03c.mail.aol.com (core-ama03.mail.aol.com [172.26.125.13]) by mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 22E7438000083 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:05:26 -0500 (EST) To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Gary Blihovde Received: from 71.82.164.14 by webmail-vm188.sysops.aol.com (149.174.152.150) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:05:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:05:25 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415574326; bh=TKOHuMc3glMNYFGlIBkhODRYTEKH1+DNWyY2rhRX8y8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=faQm9tbZjdNTP0zYUd6a+qC1/fJfdAIl9Hto5P1KpqIwjIedgNt8nPn73ei78yK5l fXfrYrPGIlGO05pmkZWOccHLm2xsuzUJ6QHdhu1GSLq52rng29tpMXp6F4KfjVytOS uMCm1iCm/m0hxzSoFe8qJJzh+hpeE5QWHOrAnrBU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe90545ff33651a1 Subject: [TR] TR3 Frame & suspension components Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone interested in a 1961 TR3 frame in SE WIS? Janesville to be more precise. Gary ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 17:17:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0532584B98 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 17:17:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0188625845E5 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:56:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55013] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4D/4A-02908-81000645; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 00:00:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:00:24 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/8YQfNirgnooUrTxOdJbelPQG3FwAGBBBw Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Some have SW and CB - SW goes to the ignition switch, CB to > the contact breaker. Unless you've converted the car to negative ground. Then you should switch the wires to the coil to keep the spark negative. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 21:33:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABEC2584C26 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:33:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170425802AF for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 21:17:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([96.41.146.193]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NET00M5R2Q58CB0@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 04:20:30 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-10_01:2014-11-07,2014-11-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411100039 From: Jeffrey Gayton Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:20:29 -0800 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings. I finally found the halogen bulbs I wanted to replace the original incandescents in my Lucas PL700 headlights b eBay Germany of all places! Now, Ibm trying to figure out how to orient them. Should the bshieldb inside the bulb be on the bottom or on the top? Ibm guessing on the bottom so more of the light shines into the inner reflector directly above the bulb. Thanks. -- Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 05:50:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7A925844E5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:50:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7E2580915 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:50:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.100]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6167F70429500; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 07:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-aoa05b.mail.aol.com (core-aoa05.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.15]) by mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A48C38000084; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 07:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip19474@aol.com Full-name: Chip19474 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 07:53:39 -0500 To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1415624020; bh=vyDOWWMCoi1MzdND9gKk0jPE06uvLDgFT7UNTrdprBQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MCk4yANNhznHU6vsm3mp762OrR4PXy4wM2jiHYNFOTdaXhzashkZ5mO/HqrZGTw9H txLIJujX0nGE2U0MLMHknrixeC04O9AqdCm9HEbL5mCkwRbCQWzKy7D0ZpAunOcBQk P+51W+cOv2RBoArk9NA5QTVpv62hSK646boFobwI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f645460b5544666 Subject: Re: [TR] Coil and spark plugs polarity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net wow, Randall....I haven't seen those words since my days back in College studying vacuum tube theory....just for kicks, try running that explanation past a bunch of "Tuner guys"!!!! Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1962 TR4 CT2052L In a message dated 11/9/2014 2:05:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: BTW, this effect is the same way that vacuum tube diodes work. By heating the cathode, it is much easier for electrons (aka current) to flow to the plate when the plate is positive. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 13:19:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0676258483B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:19:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6025800B5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:16:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.16] (184-97-248-236.mpls.qwest.net [184.97.248.236]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEU0040ZB4XET60@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:19:46 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-10_04:2014-11-10,2014-11-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411100153 From: Joe DeMuth Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:19:45 -0600 To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR6 Seat Tilt Lever, I'll try again. It is plain text. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody have an extra TR6 seat tilt lever? I need one for the driver side seat, although I doubt the levers are bhanded.b ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 14:18:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806EA2584496 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:18:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3D7258043F for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:16:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2014 21:20:20 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.253] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2014 21:20:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2014 21:20:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 58811 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2014 21:20:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415654419; bh=2PCPW89PY5yKVhV/iwFFFqHq5ukZXwbMsDY2IrMTsLc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZFLuN/NgEbQ4TSKlLiB0MoHyBN8kjR7nooScw2+NAQn7DpRCpKQyHg8NAZQNaEKnEY9YS0DBmCwn3MMmGiWApqiaeEfWR+coRCtabrtvH8EhwQ37ak0nYI/Ej+1mhxdrp2gfR5f12Xyms7j6F39JAfhGYKdPL1buJ6NP9OnAc4g= ON_177ZkU92OgMblFYImZrFII.B9MMGMthwq9bbGM5VFDZFA3fJ7mf2GNOr. al0NRkeO8OucRJOUB05dndjPp8umxDyHtXXiONuhNaxFIEabVvtix8SIyOpC 1mxBv6Hn5llHpVeI8O_j7.7EOmcz9RfRmCKchaopWU0LyW4p11FqhFVtg1ha FahxjgGzwvCTOkEcp0KdnnqDc7pjSaCkkRD8KRr.Dra0ArwHpAhHV7VD8Tet S_w3Njt3XuOydkD8vulOjtzcVQlckk94kxyozNFQRGnQHp8A513ifdio67rS ja1Il6orV5xNW3.78c925zWL.B8d7R4lCP_IkqrQJEn6Q2wjGGb3.QxwcnpD CdRo88bxxXWz.LdBUpOQZs4aiNVQcn8wZZzG7fnDiHr2Q8GzdntsbbY0cbBk DCzlXEe1KF70crjfpxoubzUUEUPO9bJhpXXfWqjma5IXqPsQCqX1BVOzxuk5 D20MSiJ6E26n9ROBrv2JnY0cv..RPdTMJ41H.MnQKYSepB62QX9RqfE_CQcq ck5GFky8iieVqvw-- Received: from [32.212.196.148] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:20:19 PST SSBkaXNzZWN0ZWQgdGhlIGNsb2dnZWQgaG9zZSBhbmQgZm91bmQgaXQgdG90YWxseSBmaWxsZWQgd2l0aCBydWJiZXIuIEl0IHNvdW5kcyBsaWtlIGEgZ29vZCBpZGVhIHRvIGNoYW5nZSB0aGVtIG9uIGEgcmVndWxhciBiYXNpcywgZXZlcnkgNDAgeWVhcnMgb3Igc28uIEkgY2hhbmdlZCB0aGVtIGFsbCBpbmNsdWRpbmcgdGhlIGNsdXRjaCBmb3IgdGhlIHByaWNlIG9mIDEgU1MgaG9zZS4gSSBhbHNvIGNoYW5nZWQgb3V0IHRoZSBzdGVlbCBicmFrZSBsaW5lcyB3aXRoIGNvcHBlci9uaWNrZWwgd2hpY2ggZG8BMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:20:19 -0800 From: JOSEPH MATO To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] BRAKE HOSES Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I dissected the clogged hose and found it totally filled with rubber. It sounds like a good idea to change them on a regular basis, every 40 years or so. I changed them all including the clutch for the price of 1 SS hose. I also changed out the steel brake lines with copper/nickel which doesn't rust out and will last as long as the car will. Joe Mato ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 20:19:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2762584B98 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:19:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4F62584ADB for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:14:06 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415675856; bh=vsrHYn5lX8irJYtURp0cR0mk0pB75Nc6LSmBTdrZTm0=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=wjwYA73EkwVVCOS1BzYq6vMoCz9+crjdJ91Mg8oqS8LKmoQlPLvtuqmG6DvOEs0tEi8yIdczbLlbo/5/PK2eUvJQLKX/wdh7lfW+Pe6iNcyTNjL54cK1+FxwZTneLZgS40gucQQZ7rS+RSIj7EWK3O5bKou6CHuZykrCfqFiPm8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=jO4r4uCU8XYfWucvprVzwY1n02GDtR2XEcRiQZPOGUmkd/M5AwHm/LwRzgMlEZDgAjb6Ta64KJgriDXFp4QK9Fx4BcheR3b/N4DCjtG7mqzGJVxGojzvPiNqHNIBegN6kP2/8ev6sn8y1YlY5TyjgeKohEgW7vl3uhSpEKW+quw=; Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 03:17:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.240] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 03:17:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 03:17:36 -0000 UYoOnAkb.MDnQveTzu3NQphBilZX3EpleFTuJazHvm_S7ZTzLQIlZA9gIey5 PxHr8cjcttFVEFBwfA4blFMiKjLldKzkCWmPt.esglknkdVbq2pC5MApHku7 YawujgPf.g6ZJ5ZR2TaTGMu3sZbzCDQs20GlM7e.PRtwLoNqE07xssIeFN_a e_x5xRfwerf2imBt9xeEfeMespYw2s1k2rqg.722ZnJUXgnS7kIj6SpGFsEb JkFXgT1e5qczoQt3TWVjMEFdzCcqGxz0Xcy_Lv0ep3Oh2Hh5Rux2ALUb3pHm YfhGDtf2gRpfVq0MSduXQ.br78j3nR07IVToXDd9wbC0wY88C19rdZXW5VSh O5yF1S1hGbEu__HgU2pWdmCdqdZd3hd.rjo69dI89UP2COewd4bp78NrSZ.n E.2Cu0CDmYlKEYsn24Vz2._05nCCWan.FpRrtk5sOjrW7e7faESoqNvkq2Pr gqvNILhg1E5RF5h08JOMrMdEsvmM0ZHCq4GMJE3cg7Ic_Y7UCFyQoAUofLQn 8nhhpHh1vn0ZVG.Gpnd_bQRC7kY2Rox.rZlASNOSTE7g.lubGSvC6Hyuzzg. Kwd0SAQht27bvmBEcwMe1iu0JMzWYBkK0fQ-- From: Greg Schuett Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:17:34 -0800 To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: [TR] Clutch Spring Anchor Plate for 64 TR-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Folks, Anybody know where I can source a clutch spring anchor plate (Number 58 on this diagram)? Thanks! Greg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 20:36:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0C22584BD3 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:36:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D268725802EB for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:35:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.44] (71-222-42-238.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.42.238]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEU0074WVH9JN60@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 03:39:18 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-11_02:2014-11-10,2014-11-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411110031 From: Darrell Walker Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:39:09 -0800 References: <9DAE6AA4-5517-4E94-B31A-CC1A9FCE09ED@att.net> To: Greg Schuett Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [TR] Clutch Spring Anchor Plate for 64 TR-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Both Moss (part number 596-170, $2.16) and TRF (part number 106347, $2.95) list it. -Darrell > On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Greg Schuett wrote: > > Folks, > > Anybody know where I can source a clutch spring anchor plate (Number 58 on > this diagram)? > > > > Thanks! > > Greg > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 21:20:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90C82584C0C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:20:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FB42584B2E for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:18:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([72.91.180.189]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEU005E8XFNFGT0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -0600 (CST) a=/vRRHaZxu7y+ihbENVcIBQ==:117 a=uwnj-Njm1IgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=qKgAisvip32GmO3mQacA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "CFM-TR" To: "'Jeffrey Gayton'" , References: <5F035E84-172B-4CA8-A8B8-B0C65C975D9C@icloud.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:21:22 -0500 Thread-index: AQISjT0e8YH5Z8xMYBsrkFxJQOeSd5vVsyaA Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mine have the shield on top. limits the light from being reflected up -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Gayton Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:20 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Greetings. I finally found the halogen bulbs I wanted to replace the original incandescents in my Lucas PL700 headlights b eBay Germany of all places! Now, Ibm trying to figure out how to orient them. Should the bshieldb inside the bulb be on the bottom or on the top? Ibm guessing on the bottom so more of the light shines into the inner reflector directly above the bulb. Thanks. -- Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 22:05:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E8C2584C2C for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:05:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5A62580582 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:58:32 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415682123; bh=kxcqWCZBW4hpLldSMjnlcb5rknD/4p8xMhhhnntId+8=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=DKO+Z0tvsnPNxZ8LVofhlBkA2N11KyfZAYgoCxgFkWND0uVwHGNUeoy3atWLWQ19X5GcpSzCnR/AyP8Qan8GQT2xrX1gyXSomCt1BN+CAaOuKdkpoCgcDkQDS6jlEl3WyIS/weZFpHsk/NP8ucF15cAn6XH1zbUbpmkmKNTngks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=N6lY6i1Z3f7RH3FuKXpNrEJdoUu9W5yM82bPF6STyVD5Ids3u8VTz4TQ3BxD7rMbdt1XUQddO7yCx7FHyWBqHUTnhlR7jc4izqvkP+caewy+gH+YqcNEraqi+PoqM3zHOvJp3UV9urmYY7CrdZl+4KwXluZhbLrEsTvrUdMBci4=; Received: from [216.39.60.169] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:02:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.241] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:02:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:02:02 -0000 MID65sdPVFEJw4.YxWjO90wovcG2ll_f1v8F5RNMpmu7b6h3m.djD9OXInwU gQ7JVscfh9cijwbMtWf0QKBtld1i1WrrnVsulADy0H84sHDxXHxFjG9.4dAv W8uz6Iq5TlGFLcsS9GeyscRQylPpu62rbzVZ6oFLagQEEPWEBffQ_XgxcVX9 Q.mIjeZbrZRxFld30Nuvpn2FgIQeBtS74a4LLrAmahmxOCPAgLq297eYAV8O nRJdYhptI_gP5Y4f9rMuEHdIWgADebT0NMs2eR5VAn4Nq9hyRgLY_oJkc92Y VAmhJ5.qoXhMowzvqLFwQH7ijKjMiqnhFfs6me2mj4gI63LNtakCnD_7m7YN jWIpgCCzIMSEeN8S4AjhayVMfSPL50j__EDP_DDjhe_0v9UelpsBGewEMxfZ KMV8VKoSmMyLR9A1GYcn3C9OVh9reGzZ4YE6dIvhaUOJbcUhoDKWyl79SGau 2vlcPYU7kyLxEkGkYs8vAZiF4l1Y10HWKqMk76JCjdnd0Y6PIHIqCghCV96v Wk2hUPKWUcjE3gq07umrydSlRw24nE4MaHfU- From: Greg Schuett Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:00:01 -0800 References: <9DAE6AA4-5517-4E94-B31A-CC1A9FCE09ED@att.net> To: Darrell Walker Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [TR] [Bulk] Re: Clutch Spring Anchor Plate for 64 TR-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net thanks, Darrellb& Moss shows it but doesnbt have it. TRF is greyed out on the diagram but Ibll give them a callb& thanks for the numbers! greg > On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Darrell Walker wrote: > > > Both Moss (part number 596-170, $2.16) and TRF (part number 106347, $2.95) list it. > > -Darrell > >> On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Greg Schuett wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> Anybody know where I can source a clutch spring anchor plate (Number 58 on >> this diagram)? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Greg >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 22:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAC92584C5D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:06:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874D82580582 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:04:52 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415682492; bh=MnYnGwCpp0H87vdruvb66fiwDcpJW0YS6siKiQ6/HAQ=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=viHClJunYq5C5CwhfNW+ZTBPkcBVqznSImRyYgQjmmm/ibOm+b+h8UMQkCl2vyJz4XlQYcoiv6KKcLaweFirnI+1N3l/HW/WAiwZYhjyhS0HdoT2WhtSiZcvr/N34s9PiU+a61vRw3ZHJbgYNV9+vdoNvM3Ug7H4kyc7mFLvb70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=yfdFK/RYC9FRsr2o0GMJciJcLFNPPYFpkNWOoRm1di0vaginmMO7D/AGCWYS+6m8TWYO83gROvOf3uRw+2EUhgpT9WmDrS79V5bLZ28owKTygQwd9MqTr7zqQXeqnIxwng3jU7/98V63e5u0RCze+S5oLjql8BXjjUkxJeFClXE=; Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:08:12 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:08:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:08:12 -0000 Fkx0z6PXQk1GrdFX5tUYSfhWOGrbJ_Mdha_BOwZOKRHkgOfTTCZpfLOFzlNv lZGrdQ6SEB_ZRMJg5r9ez8I7Js3YIfZQvcSGoLWhygvcN3sWf1_VQFJBLaUf UzMwBSMkihsh1eTKt6K8hQ5WQ6uRmBS1X3qkuhdfN_OE.xl1H4wP.WVruVMN o_H_kwGEtMyjBpw_QJanYfM.UdDAs9Yq0IvGVrIMKJOy9MCAS_luFWQmHtPI 5c8uFzVgfuHRqAlQi96v2BcZB0RJR8Wq7Mm3GeZSg3zj94.OHrYQjmz8FVCZ CELg8dmmf6lGDlqPrgHKCDyNhiSWE_SobyC0HvfZzQLOaiaceqzN16rMxNJ2 s732ycYlXiobODK6BwGFBx8No.Bfx3mwbhdvOL_KqXbaJn3SqXXj4O10B6gc vMufVjkwD3RK.eLN9yw6dfFTBDQqod.6xzO22G9g6bFvdcth2s52uQx3Chq8 T5gkI5CznHwRsMM3j8TuYEwkfYrDt6zgeRnnXm7Zl6kyxo_9Oe0YHRZXPm1Q 8SllW650F3MFcoEWgl44DDQlLleAPEE0UEWQ- From: Greg Schuett Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:08:10 -0800 References: <9DAE6AA4-5517-4E94-B31A-CC1A9FCE09ED@att.net> To: Darrell Walker Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [TR] [Bulk] Re: Clutch Spring Anchor Plate for 64 TR-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net No joy either place! still on the huntb& thanks, Greg > On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Darrell Walker wrote: > > > Both Moss (part number 596-170, $2.16) and TRF (part number 106347, $2.95) list it. > > -Darrell > >> On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Greg Schuett wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> Anybody know where I can source a clutch spring anchor plate (Number 58 on >> this diagram)? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Greg >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 22:09:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524F12584C84 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:09:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm27-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919AC2580936 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:08:59 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1415682750; bh=UPpblK1/8tIN7eBLXg+3eCMeE45aPyvScNL7/5F1HzU=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=2HPUikCmPcU5Kq+Ft8c4Z+jDo1A+fGtcs1Vr7HKJLMvJTl+M3dHOmMikWO66eTFjVUvvAuSOnw/tSoI6jLPSLTOxNBXoB/Sk1fROd/SLb5ypYWTUsiHGomR0xD7MH+ZYc3S0UnxgAzESPb5gUiEdAXpHtBQWEqwLFHMFbvJlvTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; b=QPCezEeJ4iJWj/QtQsz54UtixmZHNbYiBtK6PR//wpYliiF7I5MwdyBRdTcYNTQ0Da1TPg+1wHyFxqVeRFVawZIXdZHbVY4Uudac9eROb1/WfYLbAbLaiIub+YY/vNQuaS/CaFOtdEhqOYlx+lVl9SkbXiMN4W9+HlDWG5EDkcw=; Received: from [66.196.81.161] by nm27.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:12:30 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:12:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2014 05:12:30 -0000 aYrCKV3HNYg7vMvLZXUzA7ydBjMikTlKTh_DqIRDMJxv65BvJzDMCKsvFdE6 0CJUvx2.015yTA4p0299M0lpTkYGDsN4BsCX.QXm_U1fGH5wpekwYjZuefXm IYTXzidtYl5udtGqGswqT1xDqtRrtT4ptvnCQWuImTU_grAvjC9NkiFLsf7x IJHD.muwziUL3MfKipkhd_.toYjsmdqFxHv.z5n13wFIZqe0vGqzr6lR9sVb iMr6lnuDp_5t5LPaEXXtOvUjqDZ1bnww_fr43fZQ7_PUZSg.Pk0sq_zekiO1 PUmfd53FIcOjaEfFjTiV4WMICwsUv7TRcTJE3xas_CEsStR7BO0YdBY8vIaW tl2dgKU5QM8_3YV.zTwUY68j9EEdtUtTMNKGM4rPG09kRoF0yN8fWTZypJRt Q73fylvOs1jjpbZ3IRtm.TblZKScTM4M5rG1hwJNy.05t.0LZw3KptDlpmXE U1Ked6RXJ1OIPQUYr4645RHpjFbOV7a2mAO2Y_q3Ibx2_IW64WxW7mVuxqOP 0K95kRZPNVtw1XqaeyXXXsrKa0C34ivhn From: Greg Schuett Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:12:28 -0800 References: <9DAE6AA4-5517-4E94-B31A-CC1A9FCE09ED@att.net> <3842075F-071C-404D-8721-DF7DAAB57F1B@att.net> To: Darrell Walker Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Subject: Re: [TR] [Bulk] Re: Clutch Spring Anchor Plate for 64 TR-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I take it back. Moss has them in stockb& thanks, Greg > On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Greg Schuett wrote: > > No joy either place! > > still on the huntb& > > thanks, > Greg > > >> On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Darrell Walker wrote: >> >> >> Both Moss (part number 596-170, $2.16) and TRF (part number 106347, $2.95) > list it. >> >> -Darrell >> >>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Greg Schuett wrote: >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Anybody know where I can source a clutch spring anchor plate (Number 58 on >>> this diagram)? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr4boy@att.net > iN5N ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 07:56:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05022584C8B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:56:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B62F258068A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:55:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id EEzP1p00G4oFfFQ01EzSTx; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:59:26 -0700 From: "dave n" To: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:59:20 -0600 Subject: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net couple of questions about an early (63) TR4 is smoking badly. car sat for 25 years or so before I got it. had it running and driving, but you sure didnbt want to run it inside even a parking garage! 1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without pulling the engine? bad idea anyway? 2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or easier to pull just the engine? seems like it would be a bear to get them lined up again. the tranny shifts just fine, so I donbt need to pull it. (Its and overdrive unit) 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to really be in the way. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:07:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB92584CAB for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:07:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.172.220.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF6C2584C18 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:01:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.10.7.238] (gw-ispfw-ext.vcd.hp.com [67.137.248.194]) by st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEV00JO7R840V80@st11p02mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:04:54 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-11_03:2014-11-11,2014-11-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411110112 From: Darrell Walker Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:04:53 -0800 References: To: dave n Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dave, >From my experiences: > > 1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without pulling the > engine? bad idea anyway? In theory I guess you could. Pulling the engine would be easier, and let you clean up the block properly. > > 2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or easier to pull just > the engine? seems like it would be a bear to get them lined up again. the > tranny shifts just fine, so I donbt need to pull it. (Its and overdrive > unit) Ibve always pulled them both. I think it would indeed be a major pain to get the engine back on the tranny with it in the car. I donbt know if the overdrive shifts the equation at all, though. > > 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to > really be in the way. Yes, you will need to take it out. -Darrell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:07:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68FE2584D0D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:07:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 26B9F2584C18 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:05:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24007 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 2014 15:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy3.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2014 15:09:14 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id EF951p00t1NzpT901F982w; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:09:13 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bmKd1aS31nFcIaiRg-MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yzfVe9YhscAA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=57749 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XoD46-00072q-5X; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:09:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:09:00 -0600 To: "dave n" , From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It is possible to replace pistons and liners with the engine in the car, but barely. It's not that hard to pull the engine. It's better to pull the engine and tranny together, makes marrying them back up after the rebuild much easier. You do want to remove the cross brace between the spring / shock towers to allow the engine to be pulled. This page has a bit of a pictorial on engine / tranny removal: http://www.tonydrews.com/2008-9Rebuild/2008-9_Rebuild.htm Cheers, Tony Drews At 08:59 AM 11/11/2014, dave n wrote: >couple of questions about an early (63) TR4 is smoking badly. car sat for 25 >years or so before I got it. had it running and driving, but you sure >didnbt want to run it inside even a parking garage! > >1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without pulling the >engine? bad idea anyway? > >2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or easier to pull just >the engine? seems like it would be a bear to get them lined up again. the >tranny shifts just fine, so I donbt need to pull it. (Its and overdrive >unit) > >3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to >really be in the way. > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:22:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC5258474A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:22:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B72258068A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:21:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id EFRL1p0055GpR5q01FRMJa; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:25:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 06:25:09 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: dave n , triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Once the head is off and the big ends of the rods are disconnected AND if the liners aren't rusted in place, then the pistons will come out with the liners. This whether it's in the car or on a stand. this answers 2 & 3 I guess.. dave On 11/11/2014 7:59 AM, dave n wrote: > couple of questions about an early (63) TR4 is smoking badly. car sat for 25 > years or so before I got it. had it running and driving, but you sure > didnbt want to run it inside even a parking garage! > > 1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without pulling the > engine? bad idea anyway? > > 2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or easier to pull just > the engine? seems like it would be a bear to get them lined up again. the > tranny shifts just fine, so I donbt need to pull it. (Its and overdrive > unit) > > 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to > really be in the way. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com > > -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 08:36:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FB9258473B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:36:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74152580B7B for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:32:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55011] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id BF/17-21900-1EC22645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:36:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'dave n'" , Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 07:36:01 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/9wBjh0x4fWaBaRai1fJA4CQzbtwAAh4jA Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > 1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without > pulling the > engine? Definitely possible, I've done it more than once. Biggest problem is cleaning up the mess that falls out of the cooling jacket onto your bare crank journals (so wrap them in rags before pulling the liners). > bad idea anyway? Depends on a lot of things, including what your goals are and how bad the rest of the engine is. My goal was to get the cars (all TR3As) back on the road ASAP, and I knew it was only a holding action. Worked out quite well, though, I'd do it again in the same situation. > 2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or > easier to pull just > the engine? I've always pulled the tranny when I've pulled the engine, which is the procedure in the manual. Just mating the tranny to the engine in the car is enough of a hassle, doing it the other way around would be much worse, IMO. > 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, > right? Yes, it has to come out to R&R the engine. Get a copy of the workshop manual and follow the steps, that way you're less likely to overlook things like the ground strap that aren't always obvious. http://tinyurl.com/nvzbgpu Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 09:40:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491332584715 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:40:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com (unknown [195.8.197.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E7925807A2 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:40:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from [2.217.113.0] (port=49341 helo=JohnPC) by storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XoEXm-000Dnk-0k for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:43:50 +0000 From: "John Macartney" To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:43:52 -0000 Thread-Index: AQHmIpbkekcY++uAqHvodx2ugRpCFZwvVKjg Content-Language: en-gb with any abuse report authenticated_id: john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net With due respect to all those who have contributed this far, why not be done with it and use the opportunity to remove the engine and gearbox complete? Even if you don't do anything to the box, what else has worn? If it's smoking that badly, then a new set of piston rings and new valve guides would be the cheap and cheerful route for a year or so. The head might be the cheapest fix - but for how long? Having done probably more wet liner four rebuilds than I've had hot dinners in an earlier life, it you're going to fit new liners and pistons, why shouldn't one also find unacceptable levels of wear on the cam lobes, cam followers, big and little end bearing shells, oil seals, water pump and WHY? IMHO just fitting new pistons and sleeves makes about as much sense as fitting a new clutch plate and not bothering to replace the cover and thrust bearing at the same time. Maybe I've got more money than sense (?) but the reported condition of this old lump suggests that a full rebuild and checking a raft of other stuff will save the time and inconvenience of pulling it apart again at a later stage when something else goes pear-shaped. Just the thoughts of an old ***t who worked on these cars at the factory when they were being made so I'll now return to my hole in the ground. Jonmac --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 10:08:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894872584BE4 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:08:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296C325848CC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:07:25 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:25475] helo=cdptpa-web02) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id AC/95-21900-02342645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:10:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:10:56 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, John Macartney Sensitivity: Normal 2014 17:10:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My first experience tearing into an engine farther than head removal was a similar operation on my old TR4A. I did the pistons and liners with the engine in place in the single stall that came with the apartment I rented at the time. My experience was similar to Randall's, biggest challenge I remember was keeping everything clean, not just the crank but also to get the sealing surface for the figure 8 seals at the bottom of the liners cleaned up, as there will be a lot of crud in the block. The car ran great for many years after. Would it be better to take it out and do a full rebuild, sure? But time, resources and inclinations play a role as well. Greg Lemon ---- John Macartney wrote: > With due respect to all those who have contributed this far, why not be done > with it and use the opportunity to remove the engine and gearbox complete? > Even if you don't do anything to the box, what else has worn? If it's > smoking that badly, then a new set of piston rings and new valve guides > would be the cheap and cheerful route for a year or so. The head might be > the cheapest fix - but for how long? Having done probably more wet liner > four rebuilds than I've had hot dinners in an earlier life, it you're going > to fit new liners and pistons, why shouldn't one also find unacceptable > levels of wear on the cam lobes, cam followers, big and little end bearing > shells, oil seals, water pump and WHY? IMHO just fitting new pistons and > sleeves makes about as much sense as fitting a new clutch plate and not > bothering to replace the cover and thrust bearing at the same time. > Maybe I've got more money than sense (?) but the reported condition of this > old lump suggests that a full rebuild and checking a raft of other stuff > will save the time and inconvenience of pulling it apart again at a later > stage when something else goes pear-shaped. > Just the thoughts of an old ***t who worked on these cars at the factory > when they were being made so I'll now return to my hole in the ground. > > Jonmac > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 13:02:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D82F2584F24 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:02:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D609825805EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:58:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986E2C053A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:01:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:01:41 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net dave n wrote: > > 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to > really be in the way. When it comes time to remove the cross brace, put a jack under the center of the front frame crossmember and lift the front off the ground. This will cause the car to droop a bit and release and stress on the cross brace. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 13:04:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541E82584EF1 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:04:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEAE25805EC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:04:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hy10so4645388vcb.39 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:07:37 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=p7OGJnl0SKx6n96Omj/MChXelS/DtFSYQiUMxtXF2ps=; b=vqhjnw2+1bXfHHXXw8PZvDCgqjxwrihKr7DQnCpkEy6PiP2bU7rPVQ0VmecrGJyoK4 F/5+auavKNaxbEQYGecJO9hGI9Ota4yli8XprDUx01PzSQZwNfj+eKCqld5tnc74vd/6 T09DBIgHUEjfnraSs4XLzlf9/qJe+ilHgt/mBxt1z6azQ7PnMcaU3/YI1WYYKNfzTjcX jIpq9tsEV67H28R7t/zZje/x/cmo2BpFNQjGMFchaMQRVV8FzJr6jjo55EPwfs1dGPVq vrfdo/ozcaPkF33yc865GjO9UvqNDR7dxMUP6EVwGpZzlfVoFzoCjYVpCMsMYrse0Amm GgJA== ez7mr24708776vdc.29.1415736457643; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:07:37 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:07:37 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: dave n Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'll add my experience as I did the pistons and liners (with the engine *in situ*) on my TR3A earlier this year. I had the advantage of having the car on a lift so access was ideal -- but no problem tapping out the old liners and installing the new. Perhaps I was lucky but it was all pleasant and easy -- just a few extra steps beyond a head gasket and big end bearings job. I wrapped the crank journals in aluminum foil to keep them clean and pounded out the liners using a 18" x 3/4" iron pipe with a iron cap on one end and a brass cap on the other (as suggested by you-know-who). Since they had not moved in 55 years I was ready for a fight, but they tapped out w/o any fuss or drama. I chose this route as the only problem I was experiencing was a broken ring and damaged #4 piston and liner -- everything else was fine. You would do well to check out as much about your engine as you can before deciding whether you want a true overhaul or just a farmer-fix. Geo On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:59 AM, dave n wrote: > couple of questions about an early (63) TR4 is smoking badly. car sat for > 25 > years or so before I got it. had it running and driving, but you sure > didnb t want to run it inside even a parking garage! > > 1. is it possible to replace the pistons and liners without pulling the > engine? bad idea anyway? > > 2. is it better to pull the engine and tranny as a unit or easier to pull > just > the engine? seems like it would be a bear to get them lined up again. the > tranny shifts just fine, so I donb t need to pull it. (Its and overdrive > unit) > > 3. I should remove the cross brace in front of the engine, right? seems to > really be in the way. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:02:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ED82585141 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:02:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C802A2580470 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:59:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.2.48]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id EP361p00S1296SE01P3FtC; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:03:17 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:03:41 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/+A5WWGJwCKthsTSiOiTyeV1PvxA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] "key guy" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to bomb the list, but I seem to remember there is a "key guy" out there. I need a key question answered! If you could contact me off-list, I'd really appreciate it! Andrew ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:06:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061B82585126 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:06:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17D42580470 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:05:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([72.91.180.189]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEW00782DNF5W20@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:09:28 -0600 (CST) a=/vRRHaZxu7y+ihbENVcIBQ==:117 a=uwnj-Njm1IgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6s6NBmkhIhK2Bewc0F4A:9 a=QkfCxEMWYQmzTc0u:21 a=7RbEtyzXFgXo29uM:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "CFM-TR" To: "'Jeffrey Gayton'" , References: <5F035E84-172B-4CA8-A8B8-B0C65C975D9C@icloud.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:09:14 -0500 Thread-index: AQISjT0e8YH5Z8xMYBsrkFxJQOeSd5vVsyaAgAE1yQA= Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I looked at them again tonight with the lights on and I am not sure if mine are correct. They seem Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida to throw a lot of light up. Could be just aimed wrong but won't get to it before the weekend. Sure hope you haven't installed them yet.... Or if you have - what worked for you? Carl -----Original Message----- From: CFM-TR [mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Jeffrey Gayton'; 'triumphs@autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Mine have the shield on top. limits the light from being reflected up -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Gayton Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:20 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Greetings. I finally found the halogen bulbs I wanted to replace the original incandescents in my Lucas PL700 headlights b eBay Germany of all places! Now, Ibm trying to figure out how to orient them. Should the bshieldb inside the bulb be on the bottom or on the top? Ibm guessing on the bottom so more of the light shines into the inner reflector directly above the bulb. Thanks. -- Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:09:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09F2585174 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:09:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D89258449D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:08:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([72.91.180.189]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEW00IEBDSKNE80@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:12:26 -0600 (CST) a=/vRRHaZxu7y+ihbENVcIBQ==:117 a=uwnj-Njm1IgA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=aysKxwPuNzv-QQ16aMMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=shZlyfuMmBkA:10 a=zi3rHwrnn8EA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G_A0IEa5eXcZWrGjDjIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "CFM-TR" To: "TR Mail LIst" Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:12:19 -0500 Thread-index: Ac/+BIyqjvMPZFe8TKuJojYtFD4i5A== Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:11:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C58B258518F for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:11:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E942584F05 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:11:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([72.91.180.189]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEW006LYDW6P770@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:14:37 -0600 (CST) a=/vRRHaZxu7y+ihbENVcIBQ==:117 a=uwnj-Njm1IgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6s6NBmkhIhK2Bewc0F4A:9 a=6pv4rHfAm5Q2PVgi:21 a=3OTGyo286tw-InK3:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "CFM-TR" To: References: <5F035E84-172B-4CA8-A8B8-B0C65C975D9C@icloud.com> <007501cffe04$837aef70$8a70ce50$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:14:29 -0500 Thread-index: AQISjT0e8YH5Z8xMYBsrkFxJQOeSdwLmQnrAm7+9gsA= Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That was strange.... corrected message below. I looked at them again tonight with the lights on and I am not sure if mine are correct. They seem to throw a lot of light up. Could be just aimed wrong but won't get to it before the weekend. Sure hope you haven't installed them yet.... Or if you have - what worked for you? Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida -----Original Message----- From: CFM-TR [mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Jeffrey Gayton'; 'triumphs@autox.team.net' Subject: RE: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Mine have the shield on top. limits the light from being reflected up -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Gayton Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:20 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Greetings. I finally found the halogen bulbs I wanted to replace the original incandescents in my Lucas PL700 headlights b eBay Germany of all places! Now, Ibm trying to figure out how to orient them. Should the bshieldb inside the bulb be on the bottom or on the top? Ibm guessing on the bottom so more of the light shines into the inner reflector directly above the bulb. Thanks. -- Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:22:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424D025851B8 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:22:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2642125802EA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:22:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170158pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.60]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NEW006E1EENP790@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:25:35 -0600 (CST) a=fN6Osi8fgP70p3sIWdBKCg==:117 a=xkUZaXdIKeAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kZwgGDOzkXeJYnOuoeYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from 71.127.37.236 ([71.127.37.236]) by vznit170190 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:25:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:25:35 -0600 (CST) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You have a Verizon email address, if you have Verizon Internet, you can setup a site for free. Craig 72 TR6 On 11/11/14, CFM-TR wrote: Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:47:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECD625851A6 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:47:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4995325802EA for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:47:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hy4so4793756vcb.20 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:50:33 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=y77c/RX9STS7jVPYBUzmbcNjnk8DkLt7VZzcNEAkW6I=; b=C13ksyNvFGTjoyHcHEv0ap4g+6RyDAGAbzdZUBrnzE0vN/8CXrjFuAkCBzhkmN5DC6 oflTjpFVAoqJe/wd3YzmtZOlBILvbW3rLWvxJSC+q8HSHYO/MPmLtCCPU2BJEw4U2ECE sgq7TgVv+1BSCMvKe5KSvFQJX13hBb8VVPZWKdx4y/2j3BSoiyAE0Uw9Xb9PPDX08lTN RDF1Nyzp/AVHS51qnI2mJeEj9DSEiAxUEevXe94vXkuagaY86u2aOSvIzkAKlgR466dN rtu6mJ/3ZioThzuKLybMdRQ+x7o3ybvyBk1x9qhVnuvyRI7lQ6Uq+KRYoGruuyWfK5UQ TmNA== bw1mr4282758vcb.66.1415749833149; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:50:33 -0800 (PST) References: <00bd01cffe03$c2ffba50$48ff2ef0$@uprichard.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:50:33 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] "key guy" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There's more than one. There's Pete Groh... Email: pete_groh@yahoo.com His website: http://britishcarkeys.com/ The other fellow I have used is George Richardson... His website: http://www.key-men.com/triumph/ When I wanted a set of original used keys (been some years back) I think I had to work with both of them to find what I needed. More recently I had Pete cut door keys for the E-Type once I found a club member who had a numbered key that worked in that lock. Geo On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Sorry to bomb the list, but I seem to remember there is a "key guy" out > there. I need a key question answered! > > > > If you could contact me off-list, I'd really appreciate it! > > > > Andrew > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 16:49:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1025851FE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:49:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D04425844FB for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:49:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id EPt01p00N4oFfFQ01Pt1lC; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:53:01 -0700 From: "dave n" To: "TR Mail LIst" References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:27:40 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net godaddy is pretty good, very affordable, and their customer service is rock solid, 7x24. coffeecup is a good html/web program. http://www.coffeecup.com/software/ I use an older version; its really simple. and, btw, LView is a great, simple photo editing program. GIMP is a great, free, photoshop variant. a lot more effort to use -----Original Message----- From: CFM-TR Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:12 PM To: TR Mail LIst Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 17:02:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A322585215 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:02:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCA325851B1 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:00:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id EQ2s1p0025FMDhs01Q3geU; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:03:40 +0000 Received: from Dell ([67.188.0.29]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id EQ3f1p00d0dYjAz01Q3gFQ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:03:40 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: , "'TR Mail LIst'" References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:03:43 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac/+BIyqjvMPZFe8TKuJojYtFD4i5AABmirQ Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1415750620; bh=MT07rW5k0DHdYtmT44JNFLy3ZnrwQgUnjizZy150bhM=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nFmY3cAS4RlnMa7ZmPEnrvPnL3HN5K6drVV/oQ9qX44JHwy9O4gPBgfPehU/4ar8R Y697LaGAN3TF55djkMSK8cuC1VRKwImG4Vr9r0q+esEp2CHYQqUXIcGK6zSHn12n23 QnLvR932lWaDIsVTIpgMiKJtfu9UNgeEou01vSmU4laCE6QiZ0kJI91tyr06MHCyRK ebXxO6RWAdyPDNc01UHxFbwdGix2XSEnJOvZ+AsxF4yD4xwQgDGEaPpuekaBktEYx3 +zP26UeQOQOZJII1GvoEYY9KYdmwZaN7ly7W976INWWbLAD9dmEczGoOqD18AtU3GF ELYu1VSm/LB2A== Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I use GoDaddy for the Triumph Travelers web site (Triumph content). Decent service, knowledgeable support staff, all the additives you could want and not very expensive. I think they have "easy to use web builder" applications, but I don't use them so don't know much about them. They also have Wordpress incorporated which a lot of people seem to think is very easy to use and very functional (I don't happen to like it, but that's me). Still, I use it for the blog section of the web site. If you like Wordpress, ie., no programming experience required, you can also build your site on the Wordpress site, the downside is that your URL will be something like www.wordress/yoursite. I use Network Solutions to maintain registration of the domain name, that's just where it's been historically and it's too much trouble to move it. They also provide a web hosting and easy to use application building software. All my interactions with them have been positive. Hope that helps, Bob -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CFM-TR Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:12 PM To: TR Mail LIst Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kinderlehrer@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 17:06:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C41D2585215 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:06:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090A52584572 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:05:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E905A2C053A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:09:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:09:27 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: TR Mail LIst References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net CFM-TR wrote: > Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & > Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. > Others? I'd suggest Team.Net but they have some of the worst customer service on the planet, offer very little in terms of easy to use web tools. You may want to check out http://www.xmission.com in your search, though. They host http://utahbluessociety.org for example. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 17:13:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD249258522A for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:13:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE02E2584572 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:12:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id v63so7828148oia.37 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:16:05 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KGURIh2R9E66CdvZoZD+On+9GE/Aqxzsa52372Ip7rI=; b=gf6oqKOJ3kE9BPA7yV3OnNBGj0sUVbl5GHtqh9x86aSxZsoQHYBMJWToPPFfP90LTu JXds0u3Yp0Twf4cPyNFQWX4EAmHD63+4Rrl8h8ODXNS133s3ZlzPGv522NF+vkrWv/+L 21ScxJmC345dpmHfc29HpFntj3yLXU7oCRaXMZJ7oj/ZTVjOxFx4yiS9scIwY3GtTl0D r+XN7YeDbG3ebrRueDsoD75Oxvotm8DWsyBDBnU2Cvb9M3OvdL6/Px6p7j4oEOLPwMyL YCxq8SVHBWxO+zRkBv0E6BNxjpOXRLEoBztWEREz2D1LN37nHe6Ug4L6/hXWi7Ly8DJp JNbQ== e141mr33580933oih.8.1415751365478; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from White-Rabbit-9.local (24-121-63-143.npg.sta.suddenlink.net. [24.121.63.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 9sm8841571obp.13.2014.11.11.16.16.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:16:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:16:02 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> <002d01cffe0c$1fe6b630$5fb42290$@net> Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/11/14, 5:03 PM, Kinderlehrer wrote: > I use GoDaddy for the Triumph Travelers web site (Triumph content). I'm also on GoDaddy for my personal ( http://www.tjwakeman.net ) , Triumph ( http://www.tr3a.info ), Land Rover ( http://www.expeditionlandrover.info ) and Aladdin lamp ( http://www.aladdinlamps.info ) web sites. I think their interface s a little clunky but they are reasonably priced and everything just works without problems. I'l also give them a thumbs up. I use Dreamweaver. Powerful but has a learning curve. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 17:49:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE5D25845D5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:49:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm49-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm49-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4372580808 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:48:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 00:52:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.112] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 00:49:16 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.157] by tm103.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 00:49:16 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.127] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 00:49:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2014 00:49:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 73494 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2014 00:49:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1415753355; bh=loTy9zJIv9+7m4Zrqcmdtze6s4Sgq0qjLZyeQZ5N0VI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4cvkBJaeZbPKxnsyP91yf7FtLfG+YmyjDzMzPXebrBM8MH4WDKJKs1voUhrXo4p/J0Ru668dxMDtkWy5VMb6loSB/JPb6762gw/wZQ6cy5SG3xRQPLPw7eP8YsMpzP5ooVDGG10YAQVIuqg5EkJLwlmLbfjAZruNjO8J/vJQV5o= uUj5YDsgrgvxMHYQndFNiTtf9IecAFrPmc2IwvDIq4bUxyiitdNZR0Z7VxY. c4pRRNB6hyqzKLrajYSqUJkxaBXxjowoicVoCGQ0ug78OFgmtOAnXD8Vs6Qb LN3Yya5eDXdl3RR49y8qQM7u1shp65gA5KX4lPgzqT5COZbd46fOjQkTRGlL nWtBdQCRY3BQv7H8kOihpwbg7BPfK0k9x9obgsGjOQ.swyRWpozfhMwsdR9U 1gIUzJScaRuL4sJapd_P.wyINP5vw2Wvzj_t0.VeEjEDSKZcYffRcmm4lvtx 4p0ebfsQNJXQYrJHqPDkx4n26BbRj_zzP.6DsYaEumW3.bQPya.8vVdIK8fM uQDJONv1X2VrI5JD7WYfehvXvl7J70VwiOKBPdsG7dfNpzabYmWhBdVqi.Z7 3syIvZQiXwZmLgA753Xw05K85U9N6F3oSC7CuHqO3y2SZxRI1xXZCXyD623M D978YkbS5MrXXUIgzEbyAN_Hx0UA5j6WzzRvu1axO5Zxq4q5UtyBtrwcRnD4 TvUpg41wNZ7ym0rOTjMWOuWA- Received: from [32.212.196.148] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:49:15 PST QWxzbyB3aXRoIHRoZSBlbmdpbmUgb3V0IHlvdSBjYW4gbGlnaHRlbiBhbmQgYmFsYW5jZSB5b3VyIHZhbHZlIHRyYWluIGFuZCBmbHl3aGVlbCBhcyB3ZWxsIGFzIGRvaW5nIHNvbWUgaW50YWtlIG1hbmlmb2xkIHdvcmsuICBNdWNoIHNtb290aGVyIGFuZCBlYXN5IHRvIHJldiwNCm5vdCB0b28gZXhwZW5zaXZlLiBKb2UBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:49:15 -0800 From: JOSEPH MATO To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR-4 engine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Also with the engine out you can lighten and balance your valve train and flywheel as well as doing some intake manifold work. Much smoother and easy to rev, not too expensive. Joe ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 17:49:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544D4258497D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:49:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CC22584673 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:48:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from 8tab (h56.130.49.24.static.bajabb.com [24.49.130.56]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mreueus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCJIF-1XfnSi0Mz3-009Aqa; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 01:52:20 +0100 From: To: =?utf-8?Q?Triumph_Sports_car_Discussion?= , "=?utf-8?Q?cfmtr3a@verizon.net?=" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:51:56 +0000 References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> hzyXs/iN8QHW6ebgQSmwO2/g7pg6rFLDnT4zuAUrSrtTF2mWHO WxI5STDZbNxTYJdmBTumCxYwNIxxqaIz2/Ys8JlbQ0RZ1O8XZb TNayy2/11xZOLu0StQBScScGdkZbH1xrQWqwtbcytLxneer2Zg 1l0t+ZWT+h27kqGIpQZZn7JLVp0x5Jo3eJP95Vk7Ewp9BjgcpQ 1jjp9cbfg0PnevjUGgFNi2cIe1oFZWGVGWC8PPOYwhULYbveyw kp/e+udU14urvZc8gWDD+yuWRPaW83jJx2p7YMBH8Wv8LPowwJ +n5Fb6EIVVa5Ew3XkDmqlOUz1SiDffp5w/w5xyjVS Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Web_servers?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net 1and1.com is a good one to check out Sent from Windows Mail From: CFM-TR Sent: bTuesdayb, bNovemberb b11b, b2014 b4b:b12b bPM To: Triumph Sports car Discussion Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 18:31:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DF72585067 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:31:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout-fo.fuse.net [64.8.71.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA70258444D for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:31:43 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=WrAZHrirAAAA:8 a=sfHLmnyYAAAA:8 a=9TpY88No7zmLSCiEf50A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=egFzJEn-ITsA:10 a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:117 X_CMAE_Category: , , Received: from [74.215.65.95] ([74.215.65.95:50817] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtpout.cincibell.syn-alias.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.2.43620 r(Platform:3.6.2.0)) with ESMTP id 2B/6F-24453-259B2645; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:35:14 -0500 From: "Dave Connitt" To: , "TR Mail LIst" References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:41:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "CFM-TR" To: "TR Mail LIst" Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Hi Carl, Funny you should ask.. I just recently had to move my TR4A restoration site as my previous web host was closing down that service. Too bad as it was free.. Anyway, I looked around and settled on Ipage.com. Supper easy to set up a website and very reasonable. They are much cheaper than GoDaddy. Email me if you have any more questions. Dave Connitt http://Davestr4a.com > Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & > Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. > Others? > > Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web > builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. > > > > Thanks > > > > Carl > > 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO > > http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE > SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... > > Tampa, Florida > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dconnitt@fuse.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 18:49:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284A92585108 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:49:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C272580458 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:49:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ex7so3391906wid.16 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:52:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jbOzmFCJn6BXV2Ot8iwx7bRW2RLEGaFyGg67cs5qjZU=; b=KCVvXW6JkFHg2pACXzpbbC4wHHuzle4JenCXWSsuiG63rFTGfqZAhTMJjwkU0h/YHx Tun0P4iDUxuURWA2gfa7TgVd3dYLOToN66JqLZnYyiZ/SpYs5T3WfZSbEj31qxm3zHVR ARx6tAR5eB/nY2X/A1ew5U4u6PvuvsEIRMJP6Af5+sfRW66+H6lSFf+LwmYgl+bFExV/ gsNMLD+qz7t8K3ZknFJB0qp6pGNZ2hkldzbkJqjszzUFp/a8Nss9LXJpXUJ4sJ/DER/Z JJw6U34VGtCTslL8enoWgqewGwKddXIao/A4TEW/Ba2CSIMwYENPiT2BW4RPgjg4T+dT A4zg== wk1mr59873678wjb.9.1415757173852; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.39.136 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:52:53 -0800 (PST) References: <007601cffe04$f1a59a40$d4f0cec0$@verizon.net> <0MCJIF-1XfnSi0Mz3-009Aqa@mrelay.perfora.net> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:52:53 -0500 From: Jeff Scarbrough To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:51 PM, wrote: > 1and1.com is a good one to check out Another vote for 1and1.com Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 19:41:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C787E25851C5 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:41:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from walmailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (walmailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68BB2584BDC for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:41:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailscan07.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.7] helo=walmailscan07.yourhostingaccount.com) by walmailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1XoNvl-0005BG-R7 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:13 -0500 Received: from [10.114.3.32] (helo=walimpout12) by walmailscan07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1XoNvl-0007Rl-O8 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:13 -0500 Received: from walwebmail12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.12]) by walimpout12 with id ESlA1p00y0FcvPu01SlDdX; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:13 -0500 a=OTd7mDdtQPObUePB2dKGCw==:117 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=pq4jwCggAAAA:8 a=OF-CdTOGAAAA:8 a=dSNgoBpBW2kA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=7Um6gmBuPiBd94_kY7EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=E4jjk2aoAyQA:10 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by walwebmail12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1XoNvd-0002ry-AH; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:06 -0500 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:05 -0500 References: <1D10F803-AC0E-4040-8B2C-053019518F74@mac.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:45:05 -0500 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Joe DeMuth" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 Cc: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Seat Tilt Lever, I'll try again. It is plain text. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anybody have an extra TR6 seat tilt lever? > I need one for the driver side seat, although I doubt the levers are > bhanded.b > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com > Here is a used one on EBAY. http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-TR6-SEAT-HANDLE-/111360716248?hash=item19ed9dadd8&vxp=mtr New from Moss is a little more $. Greg G. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 21:37:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C71425851DE for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:37:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87C2584721 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:37:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([96.41.146.193]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NEW000NASZCH180@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 04:40:26 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-12_03:2014-11-11,2014-11-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411120041 From: Jeffrey Gayton Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:40:24 -0800 References: <5F035E84-172B-4CA8-A8B8-B0C65C975D9C@icloud.com> <007501cffe04$837aef70$8a70ce50$@verizon.net> To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In the end, I just tried one halogen face up in one headlight and one face down in the other. Face up was clearly better. With the bulb face-up and the headlights on without high beams, therebs a clear horizontal line at the top of the beam keeping the light from blinding oncoming drivers. The face down bulb cast a rounder light with a higher beam. When high beams are on, the differences are more subtle. Both were orientations were rounder, brighter, and higher on high beams, but the face down orientation was a bit higher still, and probably too high. Thanks. > On Nov 11, 2014, at 3:09 PM, CFM-TR wrote: > > I looked at them again tonight with the lights on and I am not sure if mine > are correct. They seem > Carl > > 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO > http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE > SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... > Tampa, Florida > > > to throw a lot of light up. Could be just aimed wrong but won't get to it > before the weekend. Sure hope you haven't installed them yet.... Or if > you have - what worked for you? > Carl > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CFM-TR [mailto:cfmtr3a@verizon.net] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 11:21 PM > To: 'Jeffrey Gayton'; 'triumphs@autox.team.net' > Subject: RE: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs > > Mine have the shield on top. limits the light from being reflected up > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > Gayton > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:20 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Orientation of Halogen Headlight Bulbs > > Greetings. I finally found the halogen bulbs I wanted to replace the > original incandescents in my Lucas PL700 headlights b eBay Germany of all > places! > Now, Ibm trying to figure out how to orient them. Should the bshieldb > inside the bulb be on the bottom or on the top? Ibm guessing on the bottom > so more of the light shines into the inner reflector directly above the > bulb. > > Thanks. > > -- Jeff > > > -- Jeff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 11 22:40:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229832584D5E for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:40:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C7D2584728 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:40:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from CarlDell ([72.91.180.189]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NEW00FSMVX43YC0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 23:43:59 -0600 (CST) a=/vRRHaZxu7y+ihbENVcIBQ==:117 a=uwnj-Njm1IgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=vM6Iv8fyi1ExvGFLjz0A:9 a=a83hDVWKG5pOtRtr:21 a=zc1GElJTIrotLHvA:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "CFM-TR" To: , References: <18132331.3327902.1415748335767.JavaMail.root@vznit170190> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:43:51 -0500 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQKfz621aqFOxJy24/ISyz11Kff925q8z1yg Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Their free one - mysite.verizon.net is the one that has gone away unless there is a replacement I didn't hear about. Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of thenicholls@verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:26 PM To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Web servers You have a Verizon email address, if you have Verizon Internet, you can setup a site for free. Craig 72 TR6 On 11/11/14, CFM-TR wrote: Anybody have suggestions for decent website service? Registration & Hosting. See a lot of ads for GoDaddy but no real knowledge of them. Others? Second part of the question is any suggestions on simple to use web builders. I have a basic understanding of HTML but nothing fancy. Thanks Carl 1960 TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ - VERIZON DISCONTINUED THEIR MYSITE SERVICE. LOOKING FOR A NEW HOME (10/1/14).... Tampa, Florida ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 02:06:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA6F2585257 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:06:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailfilter2.ihug.co.nz (mailfilter2.ihug.co.nz [203.109.136.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D142580B51 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:05:49 -0700 (MST) cv=EQw8u8BrXRhoan7ZNug3AfOw94KFvvjRz7cGyoowhf0= c=1 sm=2 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=8RloEfZUAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=4KBu8VCi6EN3vAzMGEcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from 118-93-190-173.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (HELO Davidslaptop) ([118.93.190.173]) by cust.filter2.content.vf.net.nz with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2014 22:09:20 +1300 From: "David Greed" To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:09:19 +1300 Thread-Index: AQGFuUmm6+a1FQb8CKZxPAZdJFEmNAIMu2IQnODWyiA= Content-Language: en-nz Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My apologies for not replying to all the responses earlier - work getting in the way... I verified that the lock out switch was OK using a multi meter beep test and there was no doubt in our minds that it was working properly. A previous owner has also installed a relay and this works as expected, especially after replacing the lucar terminals with ones that connected better. So, I am inclined to think that the oil is the problem. I am also wondering about the filters but wondering how difficult these are to access on a J-Type unit. Special tools required? Regards DavidG -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dixie4 Sent: Sunday, 9 November 2014 14:47 To: Randall; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Hi Randall, In an earlier post on this thread I said I had a non working overdrive after a gearbox oil change. This was in fact on an MGB I owned where I put in SAE 80W90 in error. Drained and changed to the correct grade of SAE 20W50 and the overdrive worked again. I can only speak of a personal experience. Regards, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity >> A much renowned small British oil producer and distributor >> recommended 80W90 >> GL4 gear oil for my TR but recommended 20W50 engine oil for my MGB. >> Work that one out if you can! > > Which overdrives? They aren't all the same. The J-type pretty much > didn't care, it would run in whatever the gearbox maker > specified. Probably work fine with sperm oil! > > For the A-type, Laycock always said to use non-detergent motor oil. > Standard-Triumph started out saying "whatever", then switched > to the Laycock recommendation, then around 1960 switched back to only GL4 > gear oil (GL5 didn't exist back then). The story as I > heard it (from an old dealer mechanic who got it from an old factory > engineer) was that they felt they had fewer (warranty) failures > overall using gear oil, even though that was opposite the Laycock > recommendation. > > But, AFAIK, MGB never had the A-type. And evidently, their gearbox held > up OK with motor oil, so that's what they used. > > The important point, I feel, is that neither type of oil is going to cause > instant overdrive malfunction. If it doesn't work at > all, there is something else wrong. It's possible that using the wrong > oil might make it wear out faster, or more apt to break > thrust washers or whatever; but changing oil isn't going to fix those > problems once they have happened. > > Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8533 - Release Date: 11/08/14 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/david.greed@wave.co.nz ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 07:18:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EE725852EB for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:18:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f45.google.com (mail-oi0-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF4A25851C0 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:18:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id a141so464521oig.4 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oyQubxh9pur7fYkCDYKoTeBBwM6cnH1eeAqjDRCqXDM=; b=TVfDv+O+Sc8K4V+DxlYrDO/e3ccKE/O6XCes+WILY2Ss42lL7xbEyg463BLfXsqRym p3HF77ip0rZfM4iFN2AIIPUAQNuYkcaydg+3Ber5AHKlQSzYsUUOc68xJXZpEfRKh1Fg h/TCLwDEkjzUsl8ng/e2foYGzuTRzPGwS/cI68QhdCvW2veMc6qQbRMCx5JSGkPz0f4D m2QjICTtap161aNBfpiyt29V95uqqSqjto7XFMYtNDgW95AmcVVjxI+Jxni0Pn4bniuE /bJ46s18423gs5nP5c2Z2g2o8U6/US47Brc07rKgT0Jqx9XysCxdZtjv8VnQW/3/gD2K pO1A== g10mr39203436obg.35.1415802112718; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.83.116 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.83.116 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:21:52 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:21:52 -0500 From: Will Daehler To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4 Seat Pan replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Every 50 years or so one might have to repair or replace the seat pans in these vintage convertables. The metal cracks at the stress points, like the four locations where the mounting bolts go. I've done enough welding repairs here that it's starting to look like war torn downtown Bagdad. So it's time to replace these two pans, I'm very TEMPTED to order two passenger ones, the style with the folding seat back. The current drivers side does not have the hinge, and this has been a source of annoyance. Comments? Will Daehler 63 TR4 Powder Blue ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 08:18:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3193425853EF for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:18:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com (mail-vc0-f170.google.com [209.85.220.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DF2580995 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:18:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq12so3049878vcb.15 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:21:53 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CRbySs2jU4spIjZzoM58lDjvyUVIeqojqzyOOELfl18=; b=SO8p1znq1yKpzTNDDqtLp29xIumIIViZqZ+4E2/EYsVwWhObpq3qqzTMP+0ZjdobHH fELmhG9HBpzHC1v6mZMeFl58TSoCnwIR/hySS9PKN1/vjUT/eYZlIHii078etAVeIJgY IyjjMfYyKW8w73v8JiRnU4yKJ0693qsezOecICrwWaYt9g6L/lWd3V0LtxTXA8qbFFyn VM8Rw+TPbg/II/CBwdEMkmKrvZnGi7J9MI7g3hc1BiXh8J1stk9f+hmzeDMPrHUkoVwe AOeek2g82qLyd+gE1j7zhVqS727k7LuPFypiKFL3OlU9qe0ErnnkaGHMaFfLhq1Nx7MO TtMw== j3mr12534009vdv.43.1415805713271; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:21:53 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:21:53 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Will Daehler Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Seat Pan replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Makes sense to me. I drove mine that way for many years before I found out the hinged seat was supposed to be on the passenger side. It seemed more convenient for me to have the drivers side hinged and I would think having both hinged would be great. An extra feature of this -- when I had the hinged seat on the drivers side I used a couple of 1/4" hardwood pieces on the metal pads to make the seat more upright -- a position that better suited me. Geo On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Will Daehler wrote: > Every 50 years or so one might have to repair or replace the seat pans in > these vintage convertables. The metal cracks at the stress points, like the > four locations where the mounting bolts go. I've done enough welding > repairs here that it's starting to look like war torn downtown Bagdad. > So it's time to replace these two pans, I'm very TEMPTED to order two > passenger ones, the style with the folding seat back. The current drivers > side does not have the hinge, and this has been a source of annoyance. > > Comments? > > Will Daehler > 63 TR4 > Powder Blue > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 09:28:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833852585528 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:28:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B540925806A5 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:28:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 16/93-01554-37B83645; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:31:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:31:47 -0800 Thread-Index: AQGFuUmm6+a1FQb8CKZxPAZdJFEmNAIMu2IQnODWyiCAAHiNoA== Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive oddity Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I verified that the lock out switch was OK using a multi > meter beep test Apologies if I've mentioned this before in this thread. I have seen those switches fail in such a way that they would pass the "beep test" and still not work properly in the circuit. It's best to test them in-circuit, by checking how much voltage actually gets to the solenoid (or relay if you have one). Mine was showing a resistance of about 20 ohms, enough to make the DMM beep, but not enough to reliably operate the relay. > So, I am inclined to think that the oil is the problem. I am > also wondering > about the filters but wondering how difficult these are to access on a > J-Type unit. Special tools required? No special tool for the suction filter, just undo the sump cover and pull the filter off. You'll probably want a new gasket. For the high pressure filter, you'll need a tool to unscrew the retaining plug. I made a simple tool that worked well enough, by drilling a heavy (approx 6mm thick by 30mm wide) iron bar for a couple of dowel pins to engage the plug, and letting the bar be the lever. There is a better home-made tool shown at http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/jod/JOD2/JOD2.htm While you are in there with the special tool, I would also pull out the dashpot and relief valve for cleaning. There are a lot of precision sliding fits in that mechanism, and it only takes a tiny particle of metal to jam it. The dashpot (and relief valve) have to move to engage (or release) overdrive. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 12 15:23:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3D725849C9 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:23:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30ED2580AC0 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:23:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.231]) by resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id EmRt1p0054zp9eg01mSoxQ; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:26:48 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id EmSn1p00H5DXkUJ01mSnCT; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:26:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:26:47 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Triumphs References: (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR4 Thread-Index: m0dckzU3Yu4QTX3TeeOFu/LfLa6mXg== s=q20140121; t=1415831208; bh=CFPcjLJnboRZj/8x0eY06INYFrk/JY2hQyICgwIYi2w=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Vb+41XAwOzVX7qsCMYIk4CJExWISOqqPCVqzXGLlu4u3P7MrvPFy05pwTDmlOhup5 l9I2SjPGKbJrLC7CejcqXkXXIoc7m3ifHlCKIKijiP6guql1n35Ae+MiFj/+UACpNe AzbdQaM82he06GNEmY+RHAlK6UiZ2W8QFd+pGpoTcAlvx9Qrcxspyh7MxLfad2HM3D r0sQQURG0tJ4jszebTvjUMJpTnqq5xxd04rpD8OpvBS8PXN8+6lXyT3AupxizZaBny 9G3IWeJUWRbUFL1UaIf8EFLjuiDTzC0OG5LDeOO4vhDfUpuITL85o41Sr1aW1M24IT CYXW4Q0QGrwCg== Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just to add to what others have said, like Geo I swapped out liners/pistons last spring with the engine in the car. No lift, I jacked it up onto blocks high enough to crawl under and sling a BFH against an old piece of oak flooring to dislodge the liners. No problems. Used electrical contact cleaner to spray off the journals and wiped well with microfiber. To lift out the engine and tranny together, I don't know about TR4's. But for my 3A the car had to be high enough off the ground for everything to clear coming out and going back in. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 07:11:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5FA2584AFA for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:11:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED7025804F1 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:10:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.6.252]) by p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id F2ED1p00T5SFU9i012ENVf; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:14:22 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:14:51 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac//TAS9Fdj0Wx7PQcKPK1qBs/qCqg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Spax or Koni Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Building a nice, fat-road 1957 TR3 (150 bhp, overdrive, rack and pinion, etc) and am wondering about front shocks. Spax or Koni? Appreciate the wisdom of the list. 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[24.121.63.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xq6sm10258078oeb.2.2014.11.13.06.55.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Nov 2014 06:55:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:55:23 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <000701cfff4c$364d32a0$a2e797e0$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Spax or Koni Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/13/14, 7:14 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Building a nice, fat-road 1957 TR3 (150 bhp, overdrive, rack and pinion, > etc) and am wondering about front shocks. Spax or Koni? > What suspension do you have? A TR3 with standard stock suspension rolls heavily in the curves and shocks alone will not cure the problem. I run Spax but it is part of a suspension system that includes a large front anti sway bar, poly bushings, rebuilt rear shocks with heavy duty valves, and the shorter competition front springs. I have purposefully left the rear springs stock but lengthened the rear shackles a little so the springs can flex more without hitting the frame. I'm one of those people who believes that the corner handling is more predictable if you stiffen the front but not the rear. I have also found that the rear end behaves better powering out of a corner with a limited slip diff. If you don't have a front sway bar check with TSI Automotive. http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com For stronger front hubs and axles go to Tony Drew's site http://www.tonydrews.com/Aluminum%20Hubs/AluminumFrontHubs.htm So anyway, what works depends upon what you intend to do with your fat-road TR3 and how you set your suspension up. TeriAnn http://www.tr3a.info ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 09:58:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEC125849C0 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:58:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C5E2580B19 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:57:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141113170125.YQCT12083.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:01:25 -0500 Received: from Bedroom ([70.176.189.205]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id F51R1p00L4SLNRA0151R54; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:01:25 -0500 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5fYcfkHU_gQ7hPvUudIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:01:42 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac//TAS9Fdj0Wx7PQcKPK1qBs/qCqgAF26uA Subject: Re: [TR] Spax or Koni Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have used both and of the two prefer KONI! JOe -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:15 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Spax or Koni Building a nice, fat-road 1957 TR3 (150 bhp, overdrive, rack and pinion, etc) and am wondering about front shocks. Spax or Koni? Appreciate the wisdom of the list. Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 17:50:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAA32584C8D for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:50:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719D52584B09 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:49:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id FCtQ1p0094oFfFQ01CtQSG; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:53:25 -0700 From: "dave n" To: Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:53:04 -0600 Subject: [TR] early 63 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net the knobs on the dashboard support (I havenbt gotten to the others yet) b looks like there is a little hole, and inside that a piece of metal b that you depress, and the knob slides off? I think mine are stuck. they are not in great shape b just cut them off if I canbt pull them out with the little thingee depressed? carbs been sitting for 25+ years. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 17:51:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE85A2584BB1 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:51:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66082584536 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:51:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6A628EA6A for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 00:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.246]) by localhost (filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.234]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4eecN8Bd0T3n for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 00:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (184-8-17-160.dr1.ssvl.ca.frontiernet.net [184.8.17.160]) by relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A36FF940A6 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 00:54:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Tim Purdy Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:54:20 -0800 To: TR List Subject: [TR] Moss Motors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone had trouble with Moss Motors customer service department? I have been a loyal customer for many years and spent, as we do on these cars, a lot of money. Anyhow, one of the o-rings on the carbs of the TR4 went out, since gas leaked. Since with dual carbs, I ordered replacement o-rings, washers, etc. and order two sets, since might as well replace the other carb as well, from Moss last week, Today tackled the carbs, but of the five items related, four showed up as two and fifth as one. Replaced the faulty o-rings on one carb, but could do no the other. Called Moss customer service and after a long discussion, they told me if I place an order for additional parts, they will not charge me for the missing o-ring. I tried to explain, I dont need anything else. Maybe I lost my common sense, you have dual carbs, and so you order two of everything, to take care of both at the same time. Should I try calling back tomorrow, and maybe someone will be a bit more understanding? Tim, who would really like drive his TR4 '64 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 17:57:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5192584CB2 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:57:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579512584B09 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:57:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.44] (75-175-103-201.ptld.qwest.net [75.175.103.201]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.10(7.0.4.27.9) 64bit (built Jun 6 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NF000DPJ855PZ60@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:00:43 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-14_01:2014-11-14,2014-11-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411140006 From: Darrell Walker Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:00:41 -0800 References: To: Tim Purdy Cc: TR List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Motors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Tim, Ibve always had very good response from their customer service department when missing items, or there was a mistake. Ibd call back! -Darrell > On Nov 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Tim Purdy wrote: > > Has anyone had trouble with Moss Motors customer service department? I have > been a loyal customer for many years and spent, as we do on these cars, a lot > of money. > > Anyhow, one of the o-rings on the carbs of the TR4 went out, since > gas leaked. Since with dual carbs, I ordered replacement o-rings, washers, > etc. and order two sets, since might as well replace the other carb as well, > from Moss last week, Today tackled the carbs, but of the five items related, > four showed up as two and fifth as one. Replaced the faulty o-rings on one > carb, but could do no the other. Called Moss customer service and after a > long discussion, they told me if I place an order for additional parts, they > will not charge me for the missing o-ring. I tried to explain, I dont need > anything else. Maybe I lost my common sense, you have dual carbs, and so you > order two of everything, to take care of both at the same time. > Should I try calling back tomorrow, and maybe someone will be a > bit more understanding? > > Tim, who would really like drive his TR4 '64 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 13 23:57:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30BA2584E55 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:57:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF4625807BE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:56:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55030] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 78/CB-17552-E88A5645; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:00:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'dave n'" , Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:00:31 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac//pWcDmpJ17lTMS6uxJyEkrRFGSgAMokoQ Subject: Re: [TR] early 63 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > the knobs on the dashboard support (I havenbt gotten to the > others yet) b > looks like there is a little hole, and inside that a piece of > metal b that > you depress, and the knob slides off? > > I think mine are stuck. they are not in great shape b just > cut them off if > I canbt pull them out with the little thingee depressed? carbs been > sitting for 25+ years. What worked for me (on a friend's TR6) was to use a pair of the smallest pry bars from HF along with some scraps of wood to avoid marring the dash. One pry bar on each side, so the force on the knob was straight out. Definitely took some force, but they all came off intact. http://tinyurl.com/4qjnawz Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 07:43:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1058F2584C85 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:43:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D452580619 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:43:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([174.28.189.244]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id FSmo1p00H5GpR5q01SmoTg; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:46:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:46:47 -0700 From: David Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" Subject: [TR] follow up on for sale cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Both GT6's are gone. The TR4A remains in a cozy garage bay awaiting... dave -- Dave Porter Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM 87107 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 07:49:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4DD2584E78 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:49:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B098225844BC for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:49:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141114145319.ZDSN19674.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:53:19 -0500 Received: from PBR2 ([70.189.240.125]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id FStK1p00A2j24ku01StKzS; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 09:53:19 -0500 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=9QO4FH4JP7D2h5LpOiYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=6wGNTNoTLq8A:10 a=0jZE40zP7tAA:10 a=BacR9fir8owA:10 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=jpaynepbr@cox.net From: "Jonas Payne" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 06:53:19 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAAGk0F3ghMpgp6ROKgwzmd/+ul1w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody know what thread type the bleeder screws are in a 57 TR3 front brake caliper? At some point in the past, somebody broke it off and then filled it with JB weld. I expect to foul the threads removing this mess. Anybody want to take bets as to whether or not there is a drill bit broken off in there as well? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting Services, LLC 702.882.6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 07:57:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4FE2584EA1 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:57:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D812584E41 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:57:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id id10so4561546vcb.32 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:01:23 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=36fMO3a41puoOI07ruxwrlYI/8CuXaEcZgpU/ODoE44=; b=r7+bpGEBHEpWNi9PJRj+cvq9i0eakB9kMwiDKkgNxhkf03w97+6nxqaN6hvIDKdfC7 xvtG04e6J0jN+El3o7p1nYXmqEscH/d48Xe8HgARaxXovGL9Gwmr7s2d9X30ado3BDEP xjtAENMEFgIzLxj+GRRnhRLfMXzBxrxzTat3GFIYbT+OQqYWdDICLwU/rn1e0S/tdaH5 JzS7vkIOq/INOmKFvqLCUBrYtjE5NaXvu4cx7YDMne3Jn8QrgFm1Ain0YKbvBIGrh181 LINdPnOKHXd7mIKvcHcdBsVgCaijexoqua9qQw0j2p5SHrhFFq8zDNcr7RBkamGXwWzI ZO5g== Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.16.15 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 07:01:23 -0800 (PST) References: <000401d0001a$bad44e90$307cebb0$@cox.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 08:01:23 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: Jonas Payne Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: ...I expect to foul the threads removing this mess. > > Anybody want to take bets as to whether or not there is a drill bit broken > off in there as well? > My guess would be an EZ-Out. Good luck! Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 11:43:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6332584BD4 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:43:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DD52584502 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:42:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id FWmP1p0042GyhjZ01WmSbW; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:46:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.8] ([98.255.164.156]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id FWmR1p00F3NmwNy01WmSTe; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 18:46:26 +0000 From: William Pugh Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:46:25 -0800 References: <000401d0001a$bad44e90$307cebb0$@cox.net> To: Geo Hahn , TR3/6 s=q20140121; t=1415990786; bh=LCFUKZO9ql5N6z1jsgoT5TpXdNTe2iT3CCDXcu2T9qk=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=lALKCHg9jxG53njPlm79awpR22WU2tYm7Bq2Pe9HQle2dpfgjO7pjqapUoEK1tYX/ z40BFWN4x6ZfMVq2Uv4mUxIiVmoZewq/u+Bn4hWnGHPBPZi6xcSaM3cjFgR3/Ek/4z iLmUDQ7gKKkTtVf00eSX0rMLUSV0EIl6ZwfDYGfMV5AFtnh3xE+n7j4hnN7ly3O8T2 JwC0n8CO5xzfDbTn4PTi8rRvONHxFxDpBgtHsCITVGe5OQ7ald39vHyOEKQXWnlVNg b6vjk8fBkQul5VFY953HY+yMIPXv6qvJoMRAbfHP/2sFdVsL+o/1bF/BrQ9STKcCK7 JhATCFwv7m7Dw== Subject: Re: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I went this same sort of thing, went so far as to take the caliper to a good machine shop, they could get it out and rethread it but no screw in the know universe would fit. Best fix? Get another caliper. > On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Jonas Payne wrote: > > ...I expect to foul the threads removing this mess. >> >> Anybody want to take bets as to whether or not there is a drill bit broken >> off in there as well? >> > "Life is too short to drive boring cars" Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper"p; TS16765L Wallace, CA anabil007@comcast.netp ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 11:47:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B132F2584A1F for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EA42584502 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:47:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id y20so1628824ier.32 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=2yEGsbAWWHon3p5QaEEmZjrMh4555sWWqLuU3/bfu4U=; b=03Z1OU+D2qyOHrTOtR1olyk+uHSfN2zZ1FbOqqEvfu4hdr4j5muxmXuyJHk1GmUIzP HIzlJj9Ryp4xnqLWpSz7Fk0BPM/IQucRN8kSNhAoL47AftrHh+1LyeOd++Bff+7Ef+Gh dNjIIi7oICu4dd57y8p4K6JEbXDnnuQ9VVEbUoViDLSxI8jM8lWP86+KCxPNS2qRTgc4 x+EpZ0f1RHGRs+E8Of/3/8gsYqHZKEjg61pEK4tULEDY2wbspO8QXLEymWTGX2lPhoHR 09fHI/WW2XNldbdT/O0eJyTnvt4ChKbjcjZt6lQOBYnObBPL/Va3dfAUw5sNxCjsy1rv VWew== eh5mr8100687igb.31.1415991077753; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (h6.10.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net. [75.89.10.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j36sm14766734ioo.23.2014.11.14.10.51.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:51:18 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: William Pugh , 'Triumph Mail List' References: <000401d0001a$bad44e90$307cebb0$@cox.net> Subject: Re: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I wonder if you took a fitting with the caliper if they could not tap it to match? Doug On 11/14/2014 1:46 PM, William Pugh wrote: > I went this same sort of thing, went so far as to take the caliper to a good > machine shop, they could get it out and rethread it but no screw in the know > universe would fit. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 13:05:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85102584494 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:05:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2ED2580782 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:05:33 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1415995747; bh=kgvaOxy/2wCvG9b2zthg2QGC8RsgJ/buTDuG335bKtI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=VnVXHggKxoVv9mAOHG72cZLbohpNyp2KDmO33hEgj8pJ13MSXqs2F1c2kNOomcepAo6rSwkBLPl61irNgqyDtbMcYzK63Rcq+rpax/jlaXCDCtR5l8WcHNbhOmX4T6zqZhlsuIdjz5dG0o7raTek0ZMxvnH61VhVOhMKqItTy8f1+fQyADzKAOKCajbsZ4PsvsyjHfVEpxb0Y1XHyHOZcu1FWmLsZL8TXcTyeKN4B6zLmr8X8omfG+UmuVRtkliHhh5a+a6gaZN2tMXmaYbPUd5coNwuO+2mZguuil6pt2osJN0XrE6lM7n9XoQjUjl0fkH0VA38dD1KAp+RyRfb2Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=Sho0C5PEri+0Kx/xW0ol7sJg9MEJSHZ5pLneZcNVoGnQ3nnyUOKcJmu9a3yJ1n+IGGveOkyw+zmODqzwJNnJoelt2SQh4i8dWhFSl5USSYBtWuomkl3XdvMWJjeV6nGSeGlzZ5+35sg1XdccxQL9lLE9H6xIGuI2qgy0LlIRYK9iKuWIFI+t1TH5CMuA837+UnBt8EyTnwYfDq6mGoddBPrPBiWndkwct3xShFTF338Tv2Cct2pwZEZL3DYSmrPZqAPgH9jXQYEeWXClRlIGEsskVofZ1hGut15qjTws617Rg0L2bHMPOxzWGuP2k1W7vBcxRz4LffUo0q573ONL7w==; Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 20:09:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 20:09:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 20:09:07 -0000 lxHWw_d6a4l1MumJeYrCDGMXGRXhBFsSvcTTgThsY9M2Igx12DoO.TMuu7cDh5nqcF4k1eoBseSs yjyHq9zBIN1GkNMBojaxr80o7dqQUGlvip3D4.lO2Mmm61nT1dT3f4WMYn25yjfiRMCcpKLCD40j DZWWN1RuXqJor5ijqOAg6T4uz4PngpBm1EgpY2xh12iMWxG6lK1THF6oGu4NEW4CzpdCXaZ._c.z WCMd.LAbZOYMgCn8cbCrl.AtzYI7LoFGV4vlJq4GY26rCe94zyVJIqiRLOJXsvHWhRJCMJ5rRvL1 jx8fEfVfeHkCPR9WRLD5AghkNdQ3JhH.t9jMEDBwWj8YRGL.i970TuummM6mIKuvfmGJoaB1hQY4 6.dPQwu2ffsN0hQDepPVHC2mwTiA5T8iVxgZhi_hxNKmVyFlsQOXTqUg7k4Bdv_del9yXJScwfAX S.6tYYN0knsykrlRhfsv9fOkZy5ImbqIP1H.NL13S7tk.XBgmqrtv5TDnXk8OE98o Received: by 98.138.105.197; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:09:06 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:09:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Frank Fisher To: Tim Purdy , TR List References: Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Motors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net my friends and I have taken to calling them %*&$@#( moss B From: Tim Purdy To: TR List Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:54 PM Subject: [TR] Moss Motors Has anyone had trouble with Moss Motors customer service department? I have been a loyal customer for many years and spent, as we do on these cars, a lot of money. B B B B B B Anyhow, one of the o-rings on the carbs of the TR4 went out, since gas leaked. Since with dual carbs, I ordered replacement o-rings, washers, etc. and order two sets, since might as well replace the other carb as well, from Moss last week, Today tackled the carbs, but of the five items related, four showed up as two and fifth as one.B Replaced the faulty o-rings on one carb, but could do no the other.B Called Moss customer service and after a long discussion, they told me if I place an order for additional parts, they will not charge me for the missing o-ring. I tried to explain, I dont need anything else. Maybe I lost my common sense, you have dual carbs, and so you order two of everything, to take care of both at the same time. B B B B B B Should I try calling back tomorrow, and maybe someone will be a bit moreB understanding? Tim, who would really like drive his TR4 '64 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:27:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DE02584DEE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:27:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DC72584A94 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:26:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.6.252]) by p3plsmtpa08-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id FZVb1p00P5SFU9i01ZVlPV; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:29:49 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'TR List'" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:30:15 -0500 Thread-Index: AdAAUgNHkP6XsG8sQFW/j06+6ngWWg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Moss Motors and TRF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have never had a problem with Moss - they are a big company and operate like one. I like their website and they are very responsive. However, a couple of weeks ago I was put in touch with Albert Runyan at TRF and he has gone out of his way to help as I order eclectic parts for cars at various stages of restoration. Really nice guy. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 3:09 PM To: Tim Purdy; TR List Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Motors my friends and I have taken to calling them %*&$@#( moss B From: Tim Purdy To: TR List Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:54 PM Subject: [TR] Moss Motors Has anyone had trouble with Moss Motors customer service department? I have been a loyal customer for many years and spent, as we do on these cars, a lot of money. B B B B B B Anyhow, one of the o-rings on the carbs of the TR4 went out, since gas leaked. Since with dual carbs, I ordered replacement o-rings, washers, etc. and order two sets, since might as well replace the other carb as well, from Moss last week, Today tackled the carbs, but of the five items related, four showed up as two and fifth as one.B Replaced the faulty o-rings on one carb, but could do no the other.B Called Moss customer service and after a long discussion, they told me if I place an order for additional parts, they will not charge me for the missing o-ring. I tried to explain, I dont need anything else. Maybe I lost my common sense, you have dual carbs, and so you order two of everything, to take care of both at the same time. B B B B B B Should I try calling back tomorrow, and maybe someone will be a bit moreB understanding? Tim, who would really like drive his TR4 '64 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:28:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E937A2584E24 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:28:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96A825849A9 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:28:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.6.252]) by p3plsmtpa11-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id FZXl1p00A5SFU9i01ZXtzB; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:31:55 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:32:24 -0500 Thread-Index: AdAAUkO10FsWYLiIRtiM/fBUkTxrZA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] "break-in" oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What is the recommended oil for the break-in period for a new engine? And why? Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:30:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5C42584C8D for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:30:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.dataresolution.net (mail.dataresolution.net [209.132.198.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4E02584AF3 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:30:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from DR-EX-HBT02.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([10.10.21.47]) by mail.dataresolution.net with ESMTP id 9myHIbPaX73X8a5p; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from DR-EX-MLB05.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([fe80::ed55:c807:8093:81d4]) by DR-EX-HBT02.datacenter.dataresolution.net ([fe80::25f9:9c55:3b47:aea2%11]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:33:48 -0800 From: Pete Arakelian To: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: Moss Motors - missing O-ring Thread-Index: AdAAUkFKClHTR0tYTrKmlnhhhIhtuw== Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:33:47 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.10.11.18] Subject: [TR] Moss Motors - missing O-ring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I talked with our customer service people, evidently there was a miss understanding. They were under the impression that you only ordered 1 of the fifth item not two. Therefore they could not send another one because it did not make the minimum order. In any case, today they are sending directly to you another at no charge. Peter - 1971 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:36:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796612584E06 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:36:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042E2584B67 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:36:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([173.59.227.86]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NF1008U3TIBYO04@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:39:49 -0600 (CST) a=Q5LpmvqqKKToKYF3dbIN7Q==:117 a=aoAcgTy3oA8A:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=czq4-BAGAAAA:8 a=tjvrjMfeNNXx89vpRV8A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:39:45 -0500 From: ptegler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <006801d00052$8184b2a0$848e17e0$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] "break-in" oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You can even buy specialized oil for engine break in these days , but over all a straight 30wt non-detergent dino (NOT synthetic) oil is best. The less additives the better. You want a little wear, but want it lubed as well. Additives will embed in the metal rather than letting the rough edges' all wear down as needed. IR rings to cyl walls, smoothing of bearings to journals etc. A high ZDDP content is good... might as well get it embedded in the metal as early as possible. ptegler On 11/14/2014 4:32 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > What is the recommended oil for the break-in period for a new engine? And > why? > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ptegler@verizon.net > -- Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:41:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F9D2584DAE for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:41:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDBC2584B67 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:41:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:45:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:42:40 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.172] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:42:40 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.231] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:42:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2014 21:42:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 11522 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2014 21:42:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1416001360; bh=ZjFoNwgYxOWika+7YOV79R6WwRHQu6NXGfOJf2KxCoI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ktqtkOwqEGj4k6C64gMaSjMMIVXIFdz+sBXO06BF7TAft3Ccb80SKlFySJKn3GOztYKWmN5XHhywMfU9VTNe+78g4acwFA6mP5Iw3Jb3PBWMLqCCqBI1s7YbBaGFBLSHKKhFqeF0gQOdW4S1SyBmlXBH0tc897ZeB4P6mx9R2kg= aENkfPCrRI9FTOdkgGKm3DTkWtoljzQQ4xE2SbxU7JxySPMkDeCa90cVV66N phDfhxQGYvSYS5WC4Iiv33f80le1BX.4CN289FXymOJGa6ZjT.wdSseui1bI FyebQbIh1Ocf24npXEA_rEj7_CgtAl_dbGaaok4JrlDRS3D88IFzM9.GvjaH I.Mm.5uG0XSHJYoNjck.WVvDUEK9e1tbPMo7mS821iOkRfxN0Sd4T8.ucSVi .Q4kMV41ySioeglJ5wmH9ew7iQ3EwtD_7CUVEvJ9lyXeD6dVv0FtFb5Luu18 dL1Bgu7mnrbwjffN9hSFlb47RLkwCFtcIFVZBRba8T8qtxDUHW3eHB_f0JuS aigA.dya2Ra4OB6uPDBZOuY9Ccel0W6tDglZ0J_a89SUFMXZA0LXv3biSQhG THTwKi2o1mBQxbQY61cp1FV8wZFtixuXBXOKUDw3.hNnyr__ipfdqqkxe8in gy4hloUr10JNIea5Fint8Nts63w9q.9QkLHSi_5yMkS.d6KcBx6IEL.bTkSM rN5NQUZOVbDxftTLix0x44PV6CMeFxB0- Received: from [32.212.196.148] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:42:39 PST WW91IGNvdWxkIHRha2Ugb3V0IHRoZSBzY3JldyBmcm9tIHRoZSBvdGhlciBjYWxpcGVyLiBJIGtub3cgdGhleSBhcmUgYmlnZ2VyIHRoYW4gdGhlIGJhY2sgc2NyZXdzLiABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 13:42:39 -0800 From: JOSEPH MATO To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR-3 bleeder screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You could take out the screw from the other caliper. I know they are bigger than the back screws. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:45:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E4D2584E35 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:45:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A8C2584B67 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:45:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.228]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 84508380000FA; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mod004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-aak02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C616E38000085; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:48:35 -0500 (EST) References: <000401d0001a$bad44e90$307cebb0$@cox.net> To: jpaynepbr@cox.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-vm078.sysops.aol.com (149.174.154.38) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:48:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:48:35 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416001716; bh=croitLyzQEbNVvaCsde/97O/Xc50z7OHBrZIc5okICY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ikalFteZzLzanReM3L8BISnJw9/k7Ujkbk4mSXOQ/GE15fmU0QMcQ85o4ejQkRmot mjRivP3bEDNexhSOWdYXr4/lSvkLdX9pnNL5bTGbpoXQV4c/70sSL4qPUDNp9WqxHj XxTjG8NB0W53+MUk6G16m4xXklI/v1plHzF8oFP4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e4546678b36968 Subject: Re: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar problem with frozen bleeder screws. In the short term I bled the system by loosening the hydraulic line. The ultimate fix was to send the calipers off to Peter at Worldwide for a professional rebuild. I think this is a case where professional help is needed. Don't scrimp on the brakes. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Jonas Payne To: 'Triumphs' Sent: Fri, Nov 14, 2014 1:41 pm Subject: [TR] 57 TR3 Front Brake Bleeder Does anybody know what thread type the bleeder screws are in a 57 TR3 front brake caliper? At some point in the past, somebody broke it off and then filled it with JB weld. I expect to foul the threads removing this mess. Anybody want to take bets as to whether or not there is a drill bit broken off in there as well? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting Services, LLC 702.882.6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 14:46:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A4F2584E89 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:46:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1E72584E76 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:46:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from HomePC ([96.228.234.241]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NF10053JTZ7UV10@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:49:56 -0600 (CST) a=ahC2mGZk5R2XkonHZiQAMg==:117 a=0xrl-0my1RUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=LzHw5G89LXIuHCUb0A0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 From: "Pete Ryner" To: "JOSEPH MATO" , References: <1416001359.5785.YahooMailBasic@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:49:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] TR-3 bleeder screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I found the bleeder screws at TRF. Have to look them up by PN. I just removed a broken one and replaced it with no problems, but lots of effort. Pete -----Original Message----- From: JOSEPH MATO Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:42 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR-3 bleeder screw You could take out the screw from the other caliper. I know they are bigger than the back screws. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 14 17:19:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A0A2584642 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:19:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout-fo.fuse.net [64.8.71.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F54258454E for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:19:12 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=Rs00vHRUuYDi21CIjUIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:117 X_CMAE_Category: , , Received: from [74.215.65.95] ([74.215.65.95:50818] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtpout.cincibell.syn-alias.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.2.43620 r(Platform:3.6.2.0)) with ESMTP id BF/B8-24453-6DC96645; Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:22:46 -0500 From: "Dave Connitt" To: "Andrew Uprichard" , "'TR List'" References: <006701d00052$36654870$a32fd950$@uprichard.net> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:28:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Motors and TRF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another good source that I have found is Scott Harper of Team Triumph (330 392-7176) in upstate Ohio. He is a Moss reseller but also has a lot of parts cars that he as collected over the years that have saved me on some hard to find parts like front bumper brackets for my TR4A. He is a really good guy to work with and it doesn't hurt to help out a valuable source with a order every once and awhile. I found that he doesn't answer his phone from 12-1 and isn't open on Saturdays. I am sure there are other resellers out there that provide services and parts beyond what Moss and TRF sell but this is the only one I know of in my area (Ohio). Just my .02, Dave Connitt ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 09:18:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DEF2584F78 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:18:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C29F2580999 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:18:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55004] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0C/24-08967-19D77645; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:21:38 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Tim Purdy'" , "'TR List'" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 08:21:38 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac//pY7ycTJhlASURP+qUFnOMrFTBQBSmSGA Subject: Re: [TR] Moss Motors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Has anyone had trouble with Moss Motors customer service > department? As usual, if you can get Peter or Kelvin's attention, they'll make it right. The guy at the counter (or on the phone) isn't always so understanding, though. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 12:49:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0683C25844CE for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:49:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DBD258087D for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:49:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141115195238.RCBD12083.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:52:38 -0500 Received: from PBR2 ([70.189.240.125]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id Fvse1p0052j24ku01vseCS; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:52:38 -0500 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=MBgAmA4EFh5kpn67OwcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=Mw236FkykXEA:10 a=INVTfLATtyIA:10 a=1n_8iqc4owcA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=PKNUzVV0u3xISUrtfxQA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=jpaynepbr@cox.net From: "Jonas Payne" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:52:39 -0800 Thread-index: AdABDWQhh7hnyZ8UTw+8BCrHRsSjIw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] 57 TR3 Brake Caliper Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, It's either a drill bit, an easy out or a tap that's broken off in the bleed nipple hole, because it's harder than any drill bits that I own. It actually sparks when you hit it with the pilot punch. Anybody have an exposed pipe LH caliper they are looking to sell? Jonas Payne PBR Consulting Services, LLC 702.882.6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 13:35:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7172584539 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:35:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D081C2580965 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:34:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.230]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Fwdq1p0024yXVJQ01we0oQ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:38:00 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Fwe01p0095DXkUJ01we0pq; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:38:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:38:00 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: TR List References: <0C.24.08967.19D77645@cdptpa-oedge03> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR3 Timing Chain Cover Thread-Index: Ac//pY7ycTJhlASURP+qUFnOMrFTBQBSmSGA5UxRKFc= s=q20140121; t=1416083880; bh=y61fLiNz0q1cp56kfA2wZjNxfKBswCD3E4LdKIgk/aA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=lusmHqVFC3l7/AJ8Qkz4I2h+zUjiMvWqFyS7yIEGq5PHe+2OEB+rlY/eOou38o7qG LxEN+rRqHyx66jRQZ0IW0GaTCiO5qCECmLsyOGKentPvFTQNcCgrjzdkpD1fgpS4gH OePWqwMyzwVJjWhFc/qjNEiraMK3GRgjKgCha67bcgxHuEYq4opD0TJnFZtAEDia9Q 4d7Q/sbZlFPdIxZTSM6r3cHec7WwNQau11VeJndUqrW/F//cuz1YH6eQFvwpULX00H x9/We7QxoPJfKH/wc7r0GysDwmvhP9BK2BhniExPXl7fgPSzdvtfeIEU67ZAx3djkX cUSm1wbNc+Img== Subject: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net First, total hats off to Moss. They have a series of videos about setting timing on cars with no cam or crank gear marks. Easy peasy. Thank you to them. Now, the timing chain cover has a bolt hole just above the crank hole. The bolt may not have been on the engine when I disassembled it, since I'm pretty fastidious about bagging and tagging, but...whatever. The bolt doesn't show in exploded diagrams of the engine. Anybody know what it is? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 13:38:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F712580980 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:38:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AF52580965 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:38:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.115]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Fwi11p0032VvR6D01wiNbu; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:42:22 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id FwiN1p00w5DXkUJ01wiN99; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:42:22 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:42:22 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: TR List References: <0C.24.08967.19D77645@cdptpa-oedge03> <354764622.1149332.1416083880166.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR3 Timing Chain Cover Thread-Index: Ac//pY7ycTJhlASURP+qUFnOMrFTBQBSmSGA5UxRKFfap5lJ9A== s=q20140121; t=1416084142; bh=ywlM6QtfQjrUtzgu1jOyitg9zSEd0esnrMaSoBhfuHg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=hrmGcwAnHyfCyOX3Tb9LrdzXTxieYc0FXlqdCSNKRquHCCSY6iOYavui3bM2g1qpf 9+MvETvuj1fg/OwJsO1jx/jBA6MPolff4VcTrJzgD2qM4u4ayWvOCEIBNBeoFHIrqd EK8GqbP9wQfb5/NhQqUL212VrhaUvHwpXPNlhbWl36Hw2/HAFyWl7ZCZ4eIcZDNk35 6q2JTsqmZTnEM27Rz43Ahf6uiWs4ugOhr1MP/iVSlZqVKK0lZO8j17ys2+ywEbtNPs wPWtnRcRrThx0Ww1sjwmuqkSzi55FGRjgzTmAIi447drOt6qOPUr+qaTLW/6sFpHFT hOEAAMz5ekybg== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Never mind. I found the right bag. (Duh me). Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 13:46:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410562584AC8 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:46:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC372580983 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 13:44:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.208]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F02557000008B; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mod004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.13]) by mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C187F38000081; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:47:42 -0500 (EST) References: <0C.24.08967.19D77645@cdptpa-oedge03> <354764622.1149332.1416083880166.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: terryrs@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 71.14.188.235 by webmail-vm125.sysops.aol.com (64.12.246.159) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:47:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:47:42 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416084462; bh=jrIMZJRXiqugAbmcHsTHNdwno8UY6PzjxXroZRPx6Hg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KuQ0pMqHfQn+s1FzffaKBIjulDrSyuEoUf6xiMVx5cSXn60g4UI5is/tHXE9K43Tk m/qDKxoydIzkZvFgfBeEO2grA9DrAugoxGA9im9pY6hHmuk9Ec4Q7vfXyVX07NxTQL vLbAzDy7pCtJOkZ+Jmj6hX/UaE/rPDLrkRPIH6LI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfd05467bbee42ce Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It's been a few years but as I recall there is a standoff behind that bolt hole. This is one more piece that secures the cover to the engine and in addition it will dampen any buzzing the stamped steel cover may be prone to do. The TR6 has no such feature and as a result they slathered it with some vibration dampening goo at the factory instead. Lovely. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: terryrs To: TR List Sent: Sat, Nov 15, 2014 2:38 pm Subject: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover First, total hats off to Moss. They have a series of videos about setting timing on cars with no cam or crank gear marks. Easy peasy. Thank you to them. Now, the timing chain cover has a bolt hole just above the crank hole. The bolt may not have been on the engine when I disassembled it, since I'm pretty fastidious about bagging and tagging, but...whatever. The bolt doesn't show in exploded diagrams of the engine. Anybody know what it is? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 15 18:06:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A09258488D for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:06:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1846B2584503 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:06:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55008] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CE/25-03201-F59F7645; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 01:09:51 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:09:51 -0800 Thread-Index: AdABFa9BnEYDITb5TLmZLm3WnxGMdwAI8waA Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > It's been a few years but as I recall there is a standoff behind that > bolt > hole. This is one more piece that secures the cover to the engine > and in > addition it will dampen any buzzing the stamped steel cover may > be prone to > do. The TR6 has no such feature and as a result they > slathered it with some > vibration dampening goo at the factory instead. Right, there is a special stud that supports the cover on the TR2-4. P/N 56763 It's listed in the SPC but not illustrated. It should also have a fiber washer/gasket between it and the cover (P/N 33085), which wasn't in the past few gasket sets I bought, so I cut one from the unused carb gaskets. The TR3 apparently also got the "goo" treatment, but most people (including myself) cleaned it off without realizing it should be there. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 16 07:00:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605252584FDB for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:00:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06E32580601 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:00:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.232]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id GE3k1p007516pyw01E3kjD; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:03:44 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id GE3k1p00c5DXkUJ01E3kvE; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:03:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: TR3 Timing Chain Cover Thread-Index: AdABFa9BnEYDITb5TLmZLm3WnxGMdwAI8waApfwGh64= Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >Right, there is a special stud that supports the cover on the TR2-4. Actually do have a question after all. I don't see a lockwasher under the pedstal anwywhere and the few times I've removed it ISTR there wasn't one. Or is my memory now the fifth thing to fail? Terry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 16 07:18:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5C22584FD7 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:18:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BB52580601 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:17:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id im6so3738196vcb.11 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:21:32 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tuUhE+Abm9qTZFof1moO90yJMlV7MzKRQH1qZBGOFP0=; b=Q/zQD7U/DTdTbgxl6TE0Ml95Xj/SNzt9EdolSYL6LY/aH0JZskGzpCtZ+WmEvvyb2A itr0CAQxryp8KISIrHESZEM2SQqAfYZNlRu+w98TWfAOXYUOj/L3sGvgvCF0ldqb3cFc mSAcOjrtjOW0cRKbDouREt0H+Zo8KMVqLNQQMQZliSfJooZc64brxXDHUsTgaHM/TlkD tYcmZvQ2JbmpKltJET6Z5eYyx4GOHQoFzT8gcEuPnWJglJMLKnQWASY6O3k9SFFkfXie od+jwoBikkeFuCto6I0KFI11fdQeyAEh8J+sRbljwuqYiREflKQtXglnQC/XsJmw6sle wE7g== dy1mr6871192vdd.51.1416147692515; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.2.143 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:21:32 -0800 (PST) References: <1011247194.1192974.1416146624432.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:21:32 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: terryrs@comcast.net Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My notes make no mention of a lockwasher - but they do note that the post was loose when I removed the cover. I may have used blue Loctite upon reassembly, but no washer. Geo On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:03 AM, wrote: > >Right, there is a special stud that supports the cover on the TR2-4. > > > Actually do have a question after all. I don't see a lockwasher under the > pedstal anwywhere and the few times I've removed it ISTR there wasn't one. > Or is my memory now the fifth thing to fail? > > Terry > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 16 08:15:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4414F2585008 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 08:15:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF5D2584C1A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 08:14:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55008] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 33/79-09855-130C8645; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:18:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:18:10 -0800 Thread-Index: AdABFa9BnEYDITb5TLmZLm3WnxGMdwAI8waApfwGh66l+xlYIA== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Actually do have a question after all. I don't see a > lockwasher under the pedstal anwywhere and the few times I've > removed it ISTR there wasn't one. I agree, no lock washer under the pedestal; only one under the nut on the outside of the cover. The pedestal was originally staked into the plate, and normally only removed if it is damaged. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 16 12:13:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A585258090B for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:13:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FC925802EB for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:13:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.111]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7E19A38000093; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moa002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.5]) by mtaomg-mba01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E730D38000082; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:16:53 -0500 (EST) References: <1011247194.1192974.1416146624432.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: terryrs@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com (149.174.96.120) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:16:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:16:53 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416165414; bh=s0NKrPcEjfmKUwALzhJfZzTNlDKiHzKR7X+DD4rdBXw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HkUvlaU+5rvoTeV6lanDIYCENphvy4zmeVIFMTCMs00JOAyDdAQkZbuux0XOM8p6d HrdvHzgNZWB0CAFpIlMPJ/VXIEhX8TKmB7N8oWXyjnZc/nppLalKzcUh5kAPNQrJBO cIJoHKLVzbIytfZ4gAwSArnX+99uZl4TfUBmBfhc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a856f5468f8257c04 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My guess is no. The stud needs to be the right length or else it will deform the cover. If you shorten the stud to compensate for a lock washer you put yourself at the mercy of the lockwasher supplier and the occasional service provider who replaces the lockwasher with a new one that is not to spec. Lockwasher thickness specs are pretty loose. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: terryrs To: triumphs Sent: Sun, Nov 16, 2014 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Timing Chain Cover >Right, there is a special stud that supports the cover on the TR2-4. Actually do have a question after all. I don't see a lockwasher under the pedstal anwywhere and the few times I've removed it ISTR there wasn't one. Or is my memory now the fifth thing to fail? Terry ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 17:50:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8C825844A0 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:50:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D323F25808A7 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:50:11 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:8677] helo=cdptpa-web11) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id E4/C8-18724-C1AEB645; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:53:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 0:53:48 +0000 From: Randall To: Triumphs , Mark J Bradakis Sensitivity: Normal 2014 0:53:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] Stuff for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > And for the rest of November and December, I'll set aside 10% of any sales to a current > project of mine, feeding the hungry: http://bradakis.com/fill_pot.html FYI, That page appears to contain a reference to an image on your local hard drive; doesn't show so good from this end. But I threw some in the pot anyway. Hope it helps. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 17:57:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62E325844CA for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:57:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E732580984 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:57:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DBD2C013C for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:01:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:01:03 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Triumphs References: <20141119005348.5Y0DV.19020.root@cdptpa-web11> Subject: Re: [TR] Stuff for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Randall wrote: > >> And for the rest of November and December, I'll set aside 10% of any sales to a current >> project of mine, feeding the hungry: http://bradakis.com/fill_pot.html > > FYI, That page appears to contain a reference to an image on your local hard drive; doesn't show so good from this end. > > But I threw some in the pot anyway. Hope it helps. > > Randall > Okay, photo fixed, I'm not used to the seamonkey composer app. And thanks again. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 17:59:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B56258448E for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:59:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BAE2580984 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:58:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141119010222.BZHB3513.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:02:22 -0500 Received: from PBR2 ([70.189.240.125]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id HD2N1p00L2j24ku01D2NYm; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:02:22 -0500 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=mJdq6GOg2lYIi5m6TDcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rzSo3inbiVIA:10 a=MdAQ8LwhC5sA:10 a=YTagwMo4D0AA:10 a=hxbxrWpZ64YA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=JBtnxvvh9zbwty2klcYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=izfUicukdOpcIldU0IRT7A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=jpaynepbr@cox.net From: "Jonas Payne" To: "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:02:25 -0800 Thread-index: AdADk4mtFEiGYZNbRlOU/BOwgrZhCA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] 57 TR3 Caliper Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Many thanks to those of you who offered to help. Thanks to Dave for your recommendation on the reverse carbide bit as well. I decided that this one was out of my league and called in a specialist - $65 and Gilbert Machine in Las Vegas had it done in = an hour. It was a broken tap. They cut in new 3/8 (I think) 20 TPI BSF threads and Im off to the races. Jonas Payne PBR Consulting Services, LLC 702.882.6711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 18:01:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A4C2580B19 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:01:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099F42580984; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:01:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170182pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.60]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NF90019PHNS5H30@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:04:40 -0600 (CST) a=fN6Osi8fgP70p3sIWdBKCg==:117 a=xkUZaXdIKeAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XWWQHnHpAOg43r3nPn0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=evORYFkRxtMA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QHqqnK016tYA:10 Received: from 71.127.37.236 ([71.127.37.236]) by vznit170182 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:04:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:04:40 -0600 (CST) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: Triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Stuff for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Threw some in the pot myself. Craig 72 Triumph TR6 On 11/18/14, Mark J Bradakis wrote: With the onset of winter here in Salt Lake City, time to clean up the garage enough to get Karen's car inside. To that end I will be offering various parts and tools for sale. Check out http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=178 TR6 start solenoid http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=160 Spitfire column switch http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=144 Weber 40 DCOE http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=144 TR6 Weber manifold ( post needs updating ) And for the rest of November and December, I'll set aside 10% of any sales to a current project of mine, feeding the hungry: http://bradakis.com/fill_pot.html If you aren't interested in any of the parts but want to assist in filling the pot, I won't complain ;-) mjb the huckster. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 18 18:12:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E48725844FB for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:12:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FD325804C2; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:10:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170182pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.60]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NF900IL3I2KIS30@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net>; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:13:32 -0600 (CST) a=fN6Osi8fgP70p3sIWdBKCg==:117 a=xkUZaXdIKeAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=I0RqyrZ8c9sIayluADAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from 71.127.37.236 ([71.127.37.236]) by vznit170182 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:13:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:13:32 -0600 (CST) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: Triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Cover for TR6 hardtop on a stand Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Built a stand for my hardtop from some directions from the list years back, and always have it covered with a blanket secured with some duct tape. Have not spent much money this year after last year's total gearbox and clutch event, my wife is happy but I feel the urge. Anyone on the list aware or have found something that will cover their hardtop while its sitting in the corner of your garage? I figured for sure Bob Danielson had this covered on his site, but no such luck. Bob, want to sew me a cover? Looked around, did not see anything, open to suggestions. Thanks, and I hope all on the list have a great holiday season. Craig 72 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 02:19:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AE425846E6 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 02:19:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.farmside.co.nz (mx1.farmside.co.nz [118.82.130.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CF12580682 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 02:19:48 -0700 (MST) x-ip-name=118.82.188.156; Received: from AshleysPC (unverified [118.82.188.156]) by farmside.co.nz (mail) with ESMTP id 100773393-1739096 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 22:23:22 +1300 From: "ashleys" To: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 22:23:20 +1300 Subject: [TR] TR4 - TR5 boot seal rubber Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi!, Which is the correct way to fit boot rubber,ie the lip on one side is fitted outwards or inwards.I am having trouble to find a softer rubber seal so boot lid sits down even. Many thanks Ashley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 05:49:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6B2258479C for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:49:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C56258472E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:48:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [70.121.224.41] ([70.121.224.41:54272] helo=livingroompc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 48/A5-18724-1829C645; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:52:18 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "ashleys" , References: <0D214496666346F3ABB9E396856552CB@AshleysPC> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:52:17 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 - TR5 boot seal rubber Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe the raised lip goes to the outside, if you find something that does not make the lid sit out from the bodywork let us know, I have tried seals from a couple suppliers with no luck. -------------------------------------------------- From: "ashleys" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 3:23 AM To: Subject: [TR] TR4 - TR5 boot seal rubber > Hi!, > Which is the correct way to fit boot rubber,ie the lip on one side is > fitted > outwards or inwards.I am having trouble to find a softer rubber seal so > boot > lid sits down even. > Many thanks > > Ashley > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 07:43:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480CB2584719 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:43:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41E22580969 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:42:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id id10so352286vcb.2 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:46:08 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3L04CJ/uvvofxthwLyDyIZx3SNID+fo9c7FQO/wEjW0=; b=JrNxIhHMvt6sTVvBbdDd77veh25K8/BZgmvsXNOmfmick6CzZ2SGnI7+YimotailOU wVsYFVvYMJK8tlfJuZbkV2cRpg9IlF7h5i8OdwIQ3icMX2nHGdAfpkXjjXC0vm3eSE7W 1yKIf8eA1LOoVsPD03vQyw6Cil2OSRml0SOB3DKlevgwfPtw4bsuuOazM6fkly3se6dQ MbmVJkvPuiVfb9+GkRZlQcknN7ynkt7eiXOpsxMpV9GbKOY/H831kDWq7IPpCaaoji7t 2x/bzpw02vAEmgIJUjQnm0mbSeYShV17bj+u3oXutyOl5OjHGwVKUAJ3sBA2176P12tR 6syA== e19mr2592526vcu.27.1416408368505; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.2.143 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:46:08 -0800 (PST) References: <0D214496666346F3ABB9E396856552CB@AshleysPC> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:46:08 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: ashleys Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 - TR5 boot seal rubber Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I installed mine with the lip to the inside. I was replacing the original so I would have just copied what was on the car (been 13 years ago so the memory is dim). Not all supplied seals are the same. Here is the profile of the one I used: http://s1214.photobucket.com/user/Ahwahnee18/media/TR4/Seal-2_zps39e73a91.jpg.html?sort=9&o=134 Here is someone else's: http://s1214.photobucket.com/user/Ahwahnee18/media/TR4/Seal-1_zps90facf2f.jpg.html?sort=9&o=133 Alas - I do not recall off hand where I got mine. The lid sits correctly along the top but projects out a small amount along the bottom edge. I do not know that I can blame the seal for that. I agree a softer seal would be easier to work with, though over time (months maybe years) even the stiff one will take a suitable set. I did have some trouble finding a glue that would hold the lower edge - it wanted to pull away as the boot lid was closed -- I finally succeeded in keeping it in place with Gorilla Glue. Geo On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:23 AM, ashleys wrote: > Hi!, > Which is the correct way to fit boot rubber,ie the lip on one side is > fitted > outwards or inwards.I am having trouble to find a softer rubber seal so > boot > lid sits down even. > Many thanks > > Ashley > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 20:31:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC2025845F0 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:31:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.158.161.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C678258446E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:27:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (ip72-205-2-212.dc.dc.cox.net [72.205.2.212]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.33.0 64bit (built Aug 27 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NFB00B9SJ4KEY10@nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:31:33 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-11-20_01:2014-11-20,2014-11-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1408290000 definitions=main-1411200032 From: Stephen Oertwig Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 22:31:31 -0500 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 2000 Mk 2. Replaced the strut cartridges in 1989, and now have a leaking cartridge. Have not been able to find Stag or 2000 strut cartridges in the United States at all. Any suggestions please? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 19 20:47:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECFA25845B5 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:47:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0702425802EE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:47:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [70.121.224.41] ([70.121.224.41:54738] helo=livingroompc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 33/EE-24059-3256D645; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 03:50:59 +0000 From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Stephen Oertwig" , References: <1C72F8D1-5296-44C5-B374-754C367708A1@mac.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:50:58 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Rock auto lists a KYB strut cartridge for a stag http://www.rockauto.com/ Greg Lemon -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Oertwig" Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:31 PM To: Subject: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges > I have a 2000 Mk 2. Replaced the strut cartridges in 1989, and now have a > leaking cartridge. Have not been able to find Stag or 2000 strut > cartridges > in the United States at all. > > Any suggestions please? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 20 19:12:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4F825847C2 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:12:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2969F258074B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:11:14 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416536092; bh=mh4CVboxk61r0tJtNhjXGLCmIyrLonIDziHxYGQv7WU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=o9HkozI1DSgarX8NrN7f4ZmyPAgKoZTEBH16Zy1scXLSDXePRinxuvaR7FmcKZMyht8euqk8FMa3PtYB7H98dMOk9hhpZN4gmF6koJ9ey4oFnJkOpCasDei8A8ZNkCs0mMvQY1PisIiXwEgQv4AeIe5hrxMufESx7v9akUUdgc76U+vSdLFwhbArF6j9LGW4T/xJ5v9KBCAyghwSVm5FtYY551WFoYVqPRqtqKXkowj0H1SmSl3qRoAYUn5bU52hxJUU2mkiwhul53G38byNHQ63MdQJ/Fyotp/hEVSatZbcWDWBNAnvPN7ENoNKbiD1rLl3FBwnupWW+mgSqk+00Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=qws4m4UNr4fAxxxn9la2PjePdJzTuX11/IN3aPR0o2cJOlwMITlfxs6kk5uF8ZsQWOH+gS4z8NdCJcueeaugbsNGZw1fW8XVKOHvVQYYKenc/Tt566c6/imHtuaSWEwULHCqMFdeckeTAK91/QeK7XafbaH3dEBlVEmYotJAkM4hWr4IjhySV7nWXlYOqzMpdtwYcIBqG/6RdntZWMaBsFC0dLr5pBI02BIgjwQLLGY0Pq/+km0vmA6FY58MYoJDcqHlyY9DQ2r99ensNYTPKMHKLrP8qTQ11ezIl0EGPSRcXg0dMEjH0qH4JbicGbrf9og1E7btftgHvqhz9ogTNA==; Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2014 02:14:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.253] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2014 02:14:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2014 02:14:52 -0000 hMxsrQk7teyjAHbrTA3sv6wrvulg3L4eAAx3MpagShlgHBK8TrRm7lSGr14I4YeI8XV5npJg420y _9opwV8OpPCXuTOOVHU3E6P6W2hRGnPRFYKl2Wpg2Ol9ciGyaQIc9fxWysN0AD9VkTQqXRdABMmx MW6a0pNsVJtCS_x3Qp92ICZq2z5eMR6aN5aUpX_38vif2FRYbEnMoZ1oraDiejJWceqsZLovM9gl 3Nv._jaWekUVzKpAM.4TNzu8dMTNKPQHyBMIWbDbmAKckXDc8WiRTw.mSW4WOqDs6aMelMTSC9F. HTwq50xBS3ezcZqwddbvQH.0Iwx.JY_1G5io3Zrvc27VBWn9_nshtpmQuncXUmbzEtPQujq1fdtA B6nC_7BGpe51IpLwYALwWn72uCfNmSGElZVWQK2lCCfoWX6ynIxxt9_BlNP1Xqu1bpZKaBoNLqJP Zlllwwiu195X_n3QaY4UrEjukZbovTpDNe4IK4U2yStdRlxOHnl6qqx9OzQ0H9TV_HyMbxjiiALE gEFOokNxmSg.F.9qRdOAGBuIB4DsA_rc- Received: by 76.13.27.196; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:14:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 02:14:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Chad To: Stephen Oertwig , "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <1C72F8D1-5296-44C5-B374-754C367708A1@mac.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net www.rockauto.com has them.B Chad in Tulsa. From: Stephen Oertwig To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:31 PM Subject: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges I have a 2000 Mk 2.B Replaced the strut cartridges in 1989, and now have a leaking cartridge.B Have not been able to find Stag or 2000 strut cartridges in the United States at all. Any suggestions please? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph74tr6@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 12:38:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539E02584BD4 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:38:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.57]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011282580582 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:37:41 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416685281; bh=jbQM6akKTAp1DUvYhGNxFPDR5uEd1DrN9m0VSIVFYL4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=b7iWwL3+r/v0iqIoioTnJ2mbd7l7O1rmy4yjw4yA8R10nP0ORmyMIlsHgeSKTfBCIvzfLDMYtMrXHoGsZlKSmVjsM4s4HXCaiDckzTMRdueIij5Jf8HdPlCIM9LdQPi9StTvlrizhAHlhHkorj3gIXfiBHFjVSr5BiJgct5MNG4SBbrUdednt5gzay3pyFBYqbF62GFqdShen/gNEkYg2MpULJiCZlhf5U9gAeaLRhlAQ4ZYcOpR3L5dL1FWSB7Z3jGYB8X5M+7xxyw0wTZw2VrRjdm02jvH271ehSHScs7ACmBA4rsZheaPKRQPxnKt3fpM6cpfDiVhDF+PNeFP8g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=DoHiWhhTE2H/lJATbro5vVqll+MGu/V+3HZ0fXmh/WpqJqlG9NhqJLw1NkOhoz53l2sn1IYzpl72hQLu8H+GpqbVOzvMCFiJTevnx6f5NVEO7kn9mr0zYIy5Ya/0sIzklOyFUGR7mBjVr3DDE/7ku1yfHlwMCDYSvKddwQ7DEf6/ouAjG5Nm/0BG0eIF+jbF2MQPgno7Z9qgAj+vqdjRX9FM6veClC2yqzdJf8SLu41gjVXqRgVQdSzezjfFt/zrlklyJ1tMnTftuOwgy3EN7fjixPq7A4ZqM/1yrvLm0naQI0jysSpGsWeyB+i79beGEzHg2IXQthlDQZKRmEmmRA==; Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 19:41:21 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.167] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 19:41:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Nov 2014 19:41:21 -0000 MV6_QnyEg7yRCIk9i6FuvujiLz.NXSZwJ0M7UE7Ine5fPfHLqtT2TOGAvllLLfQJHtygwy7MPPKz 7otcdcztS.CacoAukWIwl2tEE6iFIisNEB7T_1WWbTvjGUYQ_QiNY4lqMO6HkGCIDPeXTXjbOZew NcWesY2aJ3YAx7R8Kl.Zerkr_q8q0aM8G3VKYwP9acb7vWPdTrwYGgQdBnXqCAg5iNjo4O.xg3w6 Sc1PrrvQcBWAt2zy8bqu2ecCemtjQsTIiam8445SAnrU1RufM2A8OfkxENs5utrbQaA4uVBwIxJ0 M9XHQ9bc0qZw_lKc5rRrXKtGU93tAe1y3De2hISQF5fEL2dkkpTEIxVN3QBAdtvCmUlyXM_TndVh Oo6eLHSK4XpocEg37aaM_Ezn_k3LR4.JmULK22SAIOvlLlzB0py3f1Xhb1J6lf.eGrVtrBKwLk60- Received: by 98.138.105.210; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:41:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:41:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] tr-3 diff. oil seal or speedi sleeve or both? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I continually get diff leaks (newly restored tr-3)B always dripping from the bottom of cover, however I've taken the cover off, cleaned up the mating service to fit nicely against the diff and also put on a thicker gasket.B Made sure the overflow tube is open.B Still leaking.B Next step is pinion area.B I'm thinking it's leaking there and blowing back to bottom of diff then dripping off.B Make sense?B Any other opinions? Winter project will be dropping drive shaft at diff, removing oil seal and installing oil seal and possibley speedi sleeve.B What recommended?B Only speedi seal?B only oil seal?B or both?B Also I have a hell of a time finding TRF parts through the "search" click.B put in pinion, diff, speedi seal whatever.......usually hopeless.B Moss is so much easierB but I love TRF and they're seemingly "homier" atmosphere.gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 13:15:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707812584BD3 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:15:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05E225806B8 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 13:15:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from new-host.home ([98.117.90.163]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NFG00A4DJ3GM410@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:18:53 -0600 (CST) a=AR1dG/TeJCF0fX33BA8WKQ==:117 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=GjQzlm1ppBYuY2QoCQ0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:18:52 -0500 References: <1C72F8D1-5296-44C5-B374-754C367708A1@mac.com> To: Stephen Oertwig Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Stag front strut cartridges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Steve I have one NOS Stag strut left from when I had a Stag. Still need one? Dean T. On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Stephen Oertwig wrote: > I have a 2000 Mk 2. Replaced the strut cartridges in 1989, and now have a > leaking cartridge. Have not been able to find Stag or 2000 strut cartridges > in the United States at all. > > Any suggestions please? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a58@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 16:19:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83C62584C42 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:19:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CC32584C26 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:18:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55007] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 32/EB-20097-8BA11745; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:22:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:22:35 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAGjE/vYoTY/ZqPTfSSZvlFYcTjpgAHQZ0w Subject: Re: [TR] tr-3 diff. oil seal or speedi sleeve or both? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I'm thinking it's leaking there and blowing back to > bottom of diff > then dripping off.B Make sense? Yup, that's what mine was doing. > What recommended?B Only > speedi seal?B only oil seal?B or both?B If you open it up, I would definitely replace the seal. If you can polish away the mark left by the seal on the surface of the flange, then you probably don't need a Speedi-sleeve. > Also I have a hell of a time finding TRF parts through the > "search" click.B > put in pinion, diff, speedi seal whatever.......usually > hopeless.B It works much better to first look up what you need in the factory 'Spare Parts Catalogue' and then use the TRF database search function on that number. I actually keep an icon on my toolbar that opens the PDF version of the SPC; which you can download from http://tinyurl.com/q5lx2gw As far as I know, Moss & TRF don't offer a Speedi-sleeve to fit. You'll need to pick that up at your local NAPA or perhaps RockAuto has them listed. One of my local NAPA stores doesn't even carry the Speedi-sleeve brand any more, but the other store could order it for me. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 17:53:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF55D258051C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:53:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C616258051C for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:53:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Jowh1p00k4oFfFQ01owhuE; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:56:42 -0700 From: "dave n" To: Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:56:34 -0600 Subject: [TR] 63 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net the dash support b looks like its black crackle paint? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 22 18:33:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA2A25844A9 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:33:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A313258094E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:33:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id im6so3349897vcb.39 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=D6G+oL7ZPfBoxOgIsKIfkrBj4u4iHiPcaq5OhJqDr5U=; b=PuSloeYwukTskFpJnkDbJU+itL7pBxZbM9qVToIO4swShF8s2hC2d9OAVdYpPbglK0 zyY9R9AnhQRAVH0j2m/e4UgKqD5LZUzalSENlUsDcU/1vGmrkSa5qtNtpVHiXNo4ugwH s71jsEIoWerOHJlWDv+7+g2YEQybkNddPU2xixF/yszLtG91kNtxZh6p73eKP6uO47QV EQH9KjbzKsyhsFs3m2yheBUKhyzgSs3kQuomrwRNJ+ibNZrwzrdHzO+myiafHk3JEuS1 Z52PVSJqAQLuNunMs8RygTVP05GM6G/5U4ggNv2sfi6/g8C+gslV/6zU4BEuyjl7qFY7 hMCQ== dy1mr7597884vdd.51.1416706621352; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.2.143 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) References: <2B237C34CC46419981054BF175FCC3BF@Ranteer.local> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 18:37:01 -0700 From: Geo Hahn To: dave n Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] 63 TR4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That how mine is (a 64 TR4). Geo On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 5:56 PM, dave n wrote: > the dash support b looks like its black crackle paint? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 16:04:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6C92580B9F for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:04:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3BA2580969 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:04:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.246.76.33] ([67.246.76.33:58556] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 76/80-02782-D3AB3745; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:07:41 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:07:43 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: Triumphs List a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:117 a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ML7vOrLOuCUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=DfEMuz-QMefbnc3GTngA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Subject: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This post is in reply to those members who share their home brew during various Triumph get togethers during the year. I have finally taken the plunge and brewed my own beer/ale. In order to learn the "craft", I decided to buy a kit from a local beer/wine supply store. Since I always liked the British Bitters I had in England back in the early 80's, I tried Coopers British Bitters. Well I have to say it turned out pretty good. It is a bit darker than the John Courage Bitters I had in England, it does taste pretty good. A strong hoppy flavor but not to "heavy". My next batch will be an American Pale Ale brewed from scratch using some of my home grown Cascade hops I grew this summer. Now I will have to get to one of those Triumph get togethers so I can share my beer/ale with others. My first crop of hops yielded about 2 oz. I am hoping for a better crop next year. As far as Triumphs are concerned, I removed the battery from the 6 last Saturday. The 3 and 4 have been sleeping since August since it was the 6's turn. My garage only allows one car to be used at a time. (Triumph content). Here is hoping for a short warmer Winter. Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 16:47:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE8D2580A63 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:47:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com (unknown [195.8.197.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BDF2580969 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [94.2.200.39] (port=54793 helo=JohnPC) by storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xt3OT-001cWm-Rd; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:50:09 +0000 From: "John Macartney" To: "'Bob Labuz'" , "'Triumphs List'" References: <5473BA3F.5090308@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:50:10 -0000 Thread-Index: AQEh3VEPQ2KJypn5Og3jJ7CZaQW9Cp3MxjfA Content-Language: en-gb with any abuse report authenticated_id: john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk Subject: Re: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Bob, > Well I have to say it turned out pretty good. It is a bit darker than the John Courage Bitters I had in England, it does taste pretty good. A strong hoppy flavor but not to "heavy". > Now I will have to get to one of those Triumph get togethers so I can share my beer/ale with others. I'm sure we all endorse your generous philanthropy and everyone would love to attend at your place, but................ ....... if it really is that good, a Master Brewer needs lots of time and even more tasting to get the 'mix' absolutely right - for him, and this is usually best done alone:) If you let in the world and his brother for comment, you'll end up with a beer that no-one really likes. Get a few firkins ready ...................... :) Jonmac --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 17:10:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02BC2584510 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:10:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F47D2580351 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:10:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KcDq1p00B2Udklx01cDuWo; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:13:54 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-212v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.246]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KcDu1p00P5Ji7d601cDuzQ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:13:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:13:54 +0000 (UTC) From: MICHAELMARR5258 To: Triumphs List , Bob Labuz References: <5473BA3F.5090308@adelphia.net> Thread-Topic: off topic due to winter Thread-Index: 6uy4RlypW1n7zqfSmQh9tWcxPPXGAA== s=q20140121; t=1416874434; bh=Dn3T+BWf/i/Tdcx7q1WEC6z9DsGGiqH8TWI4AadNmXI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=VIAhLH9YTMsTRV4z9ko1SSVWuhBXIKtDSY3rNpjVYFQWrk00mmnIXFCxUnRr1SwXa 9BwHfgcqrMXu/KqUbKj3rEtbbyUrAGrEI2XTvcvwrsGvhX6fxkeosuzXemRiqIpxST vFsDIIU2Z3N38VkEL6vQkClipWy3GAwSKKZSFSXYhVKvSPIjQGS+P+d7i1XAHMxgY4 Wup659+swVnTiBkh+rNDHWrg83/vFK572umkJykGSm89l49P6dVFn8/lWvIf0DdSeV Aqsz1NfT1hbRe17KzS00U1/u7hXdH2zTNAI9eU0Bo9YR6SA0T9m1xXeTQqC8cDEox2 j5EWt2n/jYI4A== Subject: Re: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 17:50:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C50F25844C2 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:50:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D93C2580969 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:50:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.246.76.33] ([67.246.76.33:58743] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 17/6C-03057-723D3745; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:54:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:54:01 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: MICHAELMARR5258 , triumphs List References: <5473BA3F.5090308@adelphia.net> <1061612071.2335522.1416874434303.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:117 a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ML7vOrLOuCUA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=EYbrEnKLAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=4STQMbg9nIISssmLQpcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=fKbK89Ayitw5yV6cLWAA:9 a=tHKEuUbM_t21XyKZ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Subject: Re: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, You are correct not bitters but bitter. I did use Coopers Bitter for my first brew. Here is a link to where I purchased the kit: http://www.kggrowbrew.com/coopers-international-series-english-bitter/ Sorry for the confusion. Just pounded down a few with a friend. And I am just 1/2 Limey. I guess that is the reason for the mis-quote. Bob On 11/24/2014 07:13 PM, MICHAELMARR5258 wrote: > Not to be pedantic, but the English draft (draught) beer you are > referring to is "bitter", not "bitters". Bitters is an entirely > different drink, used to flavor (flavour) cocktails. I doubt that any > of us could drink a pint of the stuff! > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitters > > From your friendly Limey-in-residence, > > Mike > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > -- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 17:53:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E393A2584501 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:53:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9822580A63 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:53:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id Kcwm1p00D4oFfFQ01cwnGk; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:56:48 -0700 From: "dave n" To: "Triumphs List" References: <5473BA3F.5090308@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:55:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net since we clearly need something to talk about (oh, wait, I meant something about which to talk), and you mentioned fitting only one car in, thought I'd mention that I have a more or less standard garage, and I have found that I can put one sideways across the back (on skates) and three wide in front! of course, they are literally inches apart. I push them in to ensure they don't touch. and I'll order a pint! -----Original Message----- From: Bob Labuz Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:07 PM To: Triumphs List Subject: [TR] off topic due to winter This post is in reply to those members who share their home brew during various Triumph get togethers during the year. I have finally taken the plunge and brewed my own beer/ale. In order to learn the "craft", I decided to buy a kit from a local beer/wine supply store. Since I always liked the British Bitters I had in England back in the early 80's, I tried Coopers British Bitters. Well I have to say it turned out pretty good. It is a bit darker than the John Courage Bitters I had in England, it does taste pretty good. A strong hoppy flavor but not to "heavy". My next batch will be an American Pale Ale brewed from scratch using some of my home grown Cascade hops I grew this summer. Now I will have to get to one of those Triumph get togethers so I can share my beer/ale with others. My first crop of hops yielded about 2 oz. I am hoping for a better crop next year. As far as Triumphs are concerned, I removed the battery from the 6 last Saturday. The 3 and 4 have been sleeping since August since it was the 6's turn. My garage only allows one car to be used at a time. (Triumph content). Here is hoping for a short warmer Winter. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 24 17:54:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2325844E1 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:54:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BB42580A63 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:54:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KcyY1p0025E3ZMc01cyaH6; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:58:34 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-212v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.246]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KcyZ1p00N5Ji7d601cyZnD; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:58:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:58:33 +0000 (UTC) From: MICHAELMARR5258 To: triumphs List , Bob Labuz References: <5473BA3F.5090308@adelphia.net> <1061612071.2335522.1416874434303.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <5473D329.2090400@adelphia.net> Thread-Topic: off topic due to winter Thread-Index: Ddn8GMWL2gYLovmcTFJTiKi6JvsDwA== s=q20140121; t=1416877114; bh=00B8o3VaIxloK2mOd+dE+CRyJe9OsVc9VCoq2NwmgY0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=o7GaHF9y39zmNIQnlKf0xpJ8tEt4FjiLJWpNviEdjd77pke3ewnxd3Vr919PZrfLr KEZz1Dji4N7W9zC6w2y007OcT1i3t0pIYDlp7GRQNx5acOA3ce8XA08LLUYvKjGpPM jToP0nGm5orfMtygiQEFHmNddb4nomXSYAVwFMfOH1QGidLUm85cLCUn1TJ11DfiPV M2BLzLDc6Kuxo09il2kRVrHZjLMjGRTL2ZmKVcmE9fCJnAM+G6bS44L5PbiI3AJX3M hvrSzZo5TmbEGuj+O+ASXHd7GI9rbRSuNdiOFn6dGm+noevQZa2pBOs5P2bdLviJhA i/fFGiVFyDN5g== Subject: Re: [TR] off topic due to winter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 07:05:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968DA25804CB for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:05:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com (mail-pd0-f169.google.com [209.85.192.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBD82580092 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:05:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fp1so651676pdb.0 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8P2POeZtVAQQF1qvYRt9TfDH2WR37Qj0WVX8OryMbbA=; b=eo3HflQbdPlbKgAqAKDaB5eZjP0C9V7oAUekVetvGPQUTR+rE+Ygy6jYt/ZyWWcZBT Eyb2HnMtwyxaOQBAfMw8ZCrmwgl0ZtNu28lAocaMPYUt897R2+1oxHgb2uOyCIT6H/WT jgRRVZliWpbfwhYLMCBZReAnU9lPqKu27iihhvtyL1/e+FpXEsPTmj6pa/sXf6shiBy/ i6otnj6iQsy3kxrkQu8WMSRm2FFUUb45LJYTfJCg0Pkgu6gZ4krBMZGm3Fnfvx9bMiG6 JUr7yulHv/2LyE4qnWg3JdMBKXRv2AcFFkg4g61H/0NWfQcFfsobf0CEfKZSyCS74XWF XGCg== f7mr44324390pat.67.1416924554503; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.112.225 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:09:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:09:14 -0500 From: Brad Kahler To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Removing carpet glue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The previous owner of my TR6 replaced the original carpet years ago with a cheap black carpet set that he glued in place. Late last night I managed to get all of the carpet pulled up and am now looking for methods of removing the old glue (brown in color) from the floorboards and elsewhere. >From my brief google searches it seems that carpet glue is close to impossible to remove. this is not exactly what I wanted to hear! Any suggestions on methods that you've tried that actually worked? I'm hoping to get this task done over the Thanksgiving weekend. Thanks! Brad 1972 TR6 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 07:38:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506A02584598 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:38:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f43.google.com (mail-yh0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EEE2580092 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:38:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id z6so317444yhz.30 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) h=sender:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=MVfAd8HYHCVESRPKZ3fhfaTI7YTJY3f4kZQ5j8uG2YI=; b=Fg5tJBAxOIdfSNj0hgYcRidIl1+CsTC1NHg7NOl1pNRVTDfbsAY3erum7+zrBZBJAC 64MqMlgvTPHRs2fmZH6W+mzNZYYgZTJGhPDefDlr97T8WIWOyG17xHPwqLk+ovX0P9cg pLpKGWFL7rK/+lMSUkKEPPeotgZ6ps7Xp3y6ZTsbErqMqxtGaTu1VJPf6XpX6Siv24eC /t7pdUuzaZw73WKztBn1Mohch+QLpK9MNCmOtdOvcvaOWvGEVn5SgFsi3gY4NdjMPjKZ +DG5I51fbj73POxUu3erEoy9Gv3AF61xrhATRHqN+HGTAPOAP0SLuXCfxD+q6K8UYbBh YcYg== z26mr25683205yhb.18.1416926509292; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (h182.13.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net. [75.89.13.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n36sm712833yhp.49.2014.11.25.06.41.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:41:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:41:46 -0500 From: Doug Mathews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: Brad Kahler , Triumphs References: Subject: Re: [TR] Removing carpet glue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It may have been glued down with contact cement. I googled removing this from metal and got lots of hits. This url is for a product from Home Depot. http://tinyurl.com/odg8qfw Doug On 11/25/2014 9:09 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > The previous owner of my TR6 replaced the original carpet years ago with a > cheap black carpet set that he glued in place. Late last night I managed > to get all of the carpet pulled up and am now looking for methods of > removing the old glue (brown in color) from the floorboards and elsewhere. > > >From my brief google searches it seems that carpet glue is close to > impossible to remove. this is not exactly what I wanted to hear! > > Any suggestions on methods that you've tried that actually worked? > > I'm hoping to get this task done over the Thanksgiving weekend. > > Thanks! > > Brad > 1972 TR6 > 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 07:46:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2664A258454E for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:46:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1759A2580092 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:46:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id bj1so701903pad.37 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Gj5CJIyKce01K60alodnFN9VAdFIZkcqtyE6JWsX67g=; b=gezVRt4xXEJYXotkZJyg2HAYYeIskhCPlnWra2m/cH+/IrsEl1aTcTfUFmW4c0z0AA R38KXzv4lFwOTzfvjrHejLzgL6ciLwOW7PebxdC4cKuURVLFw8exF6Jg/qKetEG6uqHc qvduDIbWDikY2bdMIdSMBbL4hYvA3QbVb69kj226puh+munMfBhgcmdrC+c9zQJ9v6wi thsgLdmdIYNOXvJv5LHXKCuyTOr4yo7oJS3tyMl0i+/IcTTrir40OoGFijWEd4bwEnI0 zKYN23Pbl1hwnlkp3ov5/11nVl9oGtiGnVaWgGkRXd5KAteF3LiHZY1xWkHLKhxrSD7m zPDA== gw11mr44627952pbd.22.1416926981175; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.112.225 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) References: <5474952A.9060104@uga.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:49:41 -0500 From: Brad Kahler To: mathews@uga.edu Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Removing carpet glue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Doug, thanks for the lead. I didn't run across Klean Strip when googling for carpet glue removal. Didn't think about searching for adhesive removal! Looks like my local Lowes has it in stock so I'll give it a try. Be interesting to see what it does to paint. Thanks, Brad On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Doug Mathews wrote: > It may have been glued down with contact cement. I googled removing this > from metal and got lots of hits. > > This url is for a product from Home Depot. > http://tinyurl.com/odg8qfw > > Doug > On 11/25/2014 9:09 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > > The previous owner of my TR6 replaced the original carpet years ago with a > cheap black carpet set that he glued in place. Late last night I managed > to get all of the carpet pulled up and am now looking for methods of > removing the old glue (brown in color) from the floorboards and elsewhere. > > >From my brief google searches it seems that carpet glue is close to > impossible to remove. this is not exactly what I wanted to hear! > > Any suggestions on methods that you've tried that actually worked? > > I'm hoping to get this task done over the Thanksgiving weekend. > > Thanks! > > Brad > 1972 TR6 > 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 07:48:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFEA2584599 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:48:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com (unknown [195.8.197.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7A125803B7 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from host86-183-80-99.range86-183.btcentralplus.com ([86.183.80.99]:56185 helo=JohnPC) by storm.ukwebsolutionsdirect.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XtHSw-000rBz-M4; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:51:42 +0000 From: "John Macartney" To: "'Brad Kahler'" , "'Triumphs'" References: Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:51:44 -0000 Thread-Index: AQF6VHmnBlsIvTXavDnLZsIjRdT9k50c1QOw Content-Language: en-gb with any abuse report authenticated_id: john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk Subject: Re: [TR] Removing carpet glue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had this trouble on one of my Triumphs. Removing it wasn't easy and in the end I used paint thinners and a square-ended putty knife as a chisel. I also ensured I kept my head into the open air as the fumes can be 'disturbing' :) Jonmac -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Kahler Sent: 25 November 2014 14:09 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Removing carpet glue The previous owner of my TR6 replaced the original carpet years ago with a cheap black carpet set that he glued in place. Late last night I managed to get all of the carpet pulled up and am now looking for methods of removing the old glue (brown in color) from the floorboards and elsewhere. >From my brief google searches it seems that carpet glue is close to impossible to remove. this is not exactly what I wanted to hear! Any suggestions on methods that you've tried that actually worked? I'm hoping to get this task done over the Thanksgiving weekend. Thanks! Brad 1972 TR6 1963 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4223/8628 - Release Date: 11/25/14 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 07:56:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A2125845C7 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:56:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C9B2580764 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:56:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ft15so717847pdb.8 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:00:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=oVrpuT6rMMPeKl6kC97tpvi92DHMAftZYQIZyuDxjy0=; b=BEzJ4DyXTEzBflEEM/GZTqW4I5cxfFTAvmNC5hFBBe850gC/SVsmZASIY0UbQ4Wrxv 2svfwoF22Cn+VTbFasbCqLw/UKW6wxFYPlwpIej2eFLcu4j3cUo6Y53v30wepiRcEJkX gjRxKE0zBIzUeyudcSWNrcigJTXQBj4hZWUoB62/Fvn0wCzP3nIskM9n5he6R1Zz23+x UFVHSXjJkA2btKeEoWbuK+ib2XgFvzPf6hSS4l0xd4HuPtImJYl5Kn1qir8GCgYpY75y 73jbT2OrgN6JTl97NjaMScJySpc6618SllxIxf5bLW4gwCox3S9Fg1Tufp5CY1DdYC3c xZxw== de5mr43430187pdb.161.1416927600827; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.112.225 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:00:00 -0800 (PST) References: <003801d008bf$54f03af0$fed0b0d0$@ukpips.org.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:00:00 -0500 From: Brad Kahler To: John Macartney Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Removing carpet glue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fumes are never fun. I do have a chemical respirator that I wear when I'm using chemicals. I have enough issues as it is without adding more! Thanks, Brad On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, John Macartney < john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk> wrote: > I had this trouble on one of my Triumphs. Removing it wasn't easy and in > the > end I used paint thinners and a square-ended putty knife as a chisel. I > also > ensured I kept my head into the open air as the fumes can be 'disturbing' > :) > > Jonmac > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad > Kahler > Sent: 25 November 2014 14:09 > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] Removing carpet glue > > The previous owner of my TR6 replaced the original carpet years ago with a > cheap black carpet set that he glued in place. Late last night I managed > to > get all of the carpet pulled up and am now looking for methods of removing > the old glue (brown in color) from the floorboards and elsewhere. > > From my brief google searches it seems that carpet glue is close to > impossible to remove. this is not exactly what I wanted to hear! > > Any suggestions on methods that you've tried that actually worked? > > I'm hoping to get this task done over the Thanksgiving weekend. > > Thanks! > > Brad > 1972 TR6 > 1963 TR4 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4223/8628 - Release Date: 11/25/14 > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 09:31:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE8225845EF for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:31:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675562580B96 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:30:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KsZp1p00A29Cfhx01saXSt; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:34:31 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id KsaX1p00K5DXkUJ01saXsF; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:34:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:34:31 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Triumphs References: <003801d008bf$54f03af0$fed0b0d0$@ukpips.org.uk> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: removing a broken bolt Thread-Index: AQF6VHmnBlsIvTXavDnLZsIjRdT9k50c1QOwuzcLkf0= s=q20140121; t=1416933271; bh=qzM4ueeuoO54o/j2tUFFYPbUF60TRvoVZb7VTI+G7cw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=wWmtsVv1inwSOjt3k36vDWCjj20BcB13z9GkVVHqvtt93vXdQSlWlJJXvBuSOmNK2 qEwZ+HUz3CuUNhR/pZPRTaBRbZofXhf1n1hpNQ5/rIX5lUbVDzqGpAcV+cFurTIabG WNn9xR3zXlBOhBCysffCCMqHMRwzFFJexeGQ5Wz0CtJ3FTWkaGu9e6sOhVEtfSwLkw BgA1ckUMc0eNpr10rQufXhQRl/j9F7VOa/EeognalQSR8puop2uf+ONaFfzAd5Gdlw 1eAsGHCfSILRA1kLUG8BgGhV6GZNalmyYThH6V2UvCUVqzPCXYvZbYjCkal3c7rjpc SCKrbAPOo1Qkg== Subject: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeesh. Sometimes no matter how careful.... Carefully ratcheted the timing cover pedestal into the block when at "snug" the head twisted off. Block was cold, pedestal 55 years old and may have been overtightened before...whatever. Now I need to get it out. Never had luck with curl-shank easy-outs. Thought of drilling a hole and using a left-hand tap, then a left hand bolt to remove. Any other thoughts? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 09:52:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5643325844DF for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:52:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FF62580B96 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:52:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.246.76.33] ([67.246.76.33:36678] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C3/40-02782-194B4745; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:55:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:55:47 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <003801d008bf$54f03af0$fed0b0d0$@ukpips.org.uk> <805900260.2235858.1416933271345.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:117 a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ML7vOrLOuCUA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=7qJHhzx0v3Sn00v714cA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Terry, Try an easy out. I have had good luck from time to time. But before you do, try some heat and candle wax before you attempt removal. Since the block is cast and the bolt is steel, should be enough to get some wax in the thread area. Another trick I have used is to first heat, with wax, then cool with ice. I did a similar thing installing the pressure plate on my 6. The easy out worked like a champ with the heat, wax and cool method. I also have seen Sears advertise something new for this task. Cant remember the name. May be worth a look on their website. Bob On 11/25/2014 11:34 AM, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > Yeesh. Sometimes no matter how careful.... > Carefully ratcheted the timing cover pedestal into the block when at "snug" the head twisted off. Block was cold, pedestal 55 years old and may have been overtightened before...whatever. > Now I need to get it out. Never had luck with curl-shank easy-outs. Thought of drilling a hole and using a left-hand tap, then a left hand bolt to remove. Any other thoughts? > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 10:13:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0869C258454B for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:13:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7276A258459F for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:12:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id hz20so964911lab.34 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:16:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kdm9moIvc5T2SUz2zzJIVKOlU+JXs0cKyQfbYvaKq/8=; b=yUdF1dBibzb/7rKdF/C5OhuDMyuE5ZWsfwJrlm/QQxH9pgMEJ3ehVFz7Qxn9zivoXJ LU848kpuoK3eAzUd8WDBxqUPY6XSrBtz7sXpFx21D7KF1XK0h2aN40hNjkdyvhzdXZI2 6iNXUfJDdH/Dc/IhLrDRH7JSPuxm4DGFUwkwRqg+eYcZUBtLQgeLdyXTFJKfkti9i8Dq BB2CC3e30NZ/eaRmT6j8GgD1b1PtfsUDRwiRbRm1jLpUQtgT7wKOwCcLokhqmwifOgv0 d1ZOCoWitTekgH+kqBiwwSrwdkIT03YejyJHW78BAxYpeZWfbbMif0VgBAskMv9zeLkT X9CA== lm3mr28761788lac.16.1416935779843; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.91.37 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:16:19 -0800 (PST) References: <003801d008bf$54f03af0$fed0b0d0$@ukpips.org.uk> <805900260.2235858.1416933271345.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <5474B493.9090305@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:16:19 -0600 From: Philip Ethier To: Bob Labuz Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When drilling for an easy-out, always use a left-hand drill. Often the vibration and torque of drilling loosens the bolt. At least, it does not tighten it! On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Bob Labuz wrote: > Terry, > > Try an easy out. I have had good luck from time to time. But before you > do, try some heat and candle wax before you attempt removal. Since the > block is cast and the bolt is steel, should be enough to get some wax in > the thread area. > > Another trick I have used is to first heat, with wax, then cool with ice. > > I did a similar thing installing the pressure plate on my 6. The easy out > worked like a champ with the heat, wax and cool method. > > I also have seen Sears advertise something new for this task. Cant > remember the name. May be worth a look on their website. > > Bob > > On 11/25/2014 11:34 AM, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > >> Yeesh. Sometimes no matter how careful.... >> Carefully ratcheted the timing cover pedestal into the block when at >> "snug" the head twisted off. Block was cold, pedestal 55 years old and may >> have been overtightened before...whatever. >> Now I need to get it out. Never had luck with curl-shank easy-outs. >> Thought of drilling a hole and using a left-hand tap, then a left hand bolt >> to remove. Any other thoughts? >> >> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A >> New Hampshire > > pethier@comcast.net still works also Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited, Regal Blue Pearl http://www.mnautox.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 10:14:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948CF258462F for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:14:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA0258453E for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:13:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 70/02-13274-289B4745; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:16:51 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'Triumphs'" Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:16:55 -0800 Thread-Index: AQF6VHmnBlsIvTXavDnLZsIjRdT9k50c1QOwuzcLkf3EyRyJwA== Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Carefully ratcheted the timing cover pedestal into the block > when at "snug" the head twisted off. If this is a TR3A, the pedestal screws into the front plate, not the block. They are staked into place originally, so the threads may have been damaged by removing it. Best route is probably to remove the plate, then drill & tap for a Helicoil. Or, I believe Joe A. still sells new plates. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 11:12:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B043E2584604 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:12:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A6BF258081C for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:11:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 26393 invoked by uid 0); 25 Nov 2014 18:15:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2014 18:15:07 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id KuF21p0071NzpT901uF5wP; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:15:07 -0700 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=odl247kEqGQQ9keRrYGJ4A==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=yssFK_F_BEgA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ci65c2CaGNYblDC68VgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [173.31.234.34] (port=51580 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKdh-0000XD-QT; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:15:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:14:55 -0600 To: terryrs@comcast.net,Triumphs From: Tony Drews t> References: <003801d008bf$54f03af0$fed0b0d0$@ukpips.org.uk> <805900260.2235858.1416933271345.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.234.34 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If the top of the bolt is near the surface, I've had good luck on rocker pedestal studs just using a small chisel and a hammer. If there's a little protrusion of any sort, use the corner of the chisel against it and tap lightly with the hammer to try to rotate it in the direction of removal. If you're lucky the remaining chunk will start turning and you can unscrew it this way. Tony Drews At 10:34 AM 11/25/2014, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: >Yeesh. Sometimes no matter how careful.... >Carefully ratcheted the timing cover pedestal into the block when at >"snug" the head twisted off. Block was cold, pedestal 55 years old >and may have been overtightened before...whatever. >Now I need to get it out. Never had luck with curl-shank >easy-outs. Thought of drilling a hole and using a left-hand tap, >then a left hand bolt to remove. Any other thoughts? > >Terry Smith, '59 TR3A >New Hampshire > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 12:02:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2887425844D5 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:02:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD822580A73 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:02:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Kv5Y1p00252QWKC01v63jl; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:06:03 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Kv621p00u5DXkUJ01v63tc; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:06:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:06:02 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Randall References: <70.02.13274.289B4745@cdptpa-oedge02> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: removing a broken bolt Thread-Index: AQF6VHmnBlsIvTXavDnLZsIjRdT9k50c1QOwuzcLkf3EyRyJwC5QS0V5 s=q20140121; t=1416942363; bh=jQWDf2QfmNLFfukVM4D53NJMzvrvrovk09wATWN0Isw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=lMTuSyuvecRFR4QjR4BApfER8YIKRPKvaHmwgGWL6/vBAOeIncyS4v/m/1JcbTdkY UcZn8Ez8PoS0R0EbNWyRVj45BL5yqJRF20XfBOyhf8uw2hC5iiOeOMTT9sgz1RnyNQ PL2nS020o2zj/s07wqlhq16SwzZMj/KdXPq2orzXii5pzPDiyVkCJaFBqumjWkhrP2 rVRBjPABwn49I6MmOJzUvQHG+PeoLUuC+RS8cCwE6l74fpYzZiNbgkd81c9sNU2KhL SNzNOw+cFN+9Ww3T6gP2INc1iKyRl1gW+C+RPr2Bd7I2r6ftN9/FkhYv0P6awGKQ4I FBn1DeqSSAm6w== Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >If this is a TR3A, the pedestal screws into the front plate, not the block. They are staked into place originally, so the threads >may have been damaged by removing it. Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe this is the differnce. I actually sourced an abused TR4 engine, unknown vintage, to rebuild as a spare for the 3A, and picked up a used front plate thinking that was the only mod (other than the carb manifold). While the chain tensioner pedestal plate hole was threaded, the pedestal hole for the timing cover was not. Instead, there was a bolt hole in the block behind it. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 12:20:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEF92584647 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:20:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCA32584550 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:20:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from RonLHeraultPC ([74.104.178.64]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NFM00CYH0JCK760@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:23:36 -0600 (CST) a=9hTLhfjI/flKK/BzHj8NGg==:117 a=fcP9TnJPZgQA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=HfUzXJc2AAAA:8 a=kM7GmnmirZ1lQGLeLiMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=oJvj-ygz_HcA:10 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:23:09 -0500 Thread-index: AdAI1nFDP8EQAjf/Q/ONcGbCaXCYwgADQQJQ Content-language: en-us Subject: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bob Labuz wrote: You are correct not bitters but bitter. I did use Coopers Bitter for my first brew. And I am just 1/2 Limey. I guess that is the reason for the mis-quote. ---------------------------- I just got DNA results back from Ancestry.com and discovered some interesting things. 1. No native American in spite of what my parents told me. 2 I'm something like 45% British and 25% Italian Greek. This was a bit of a shock since my last name is L'Herault, very French and based on a region in southern France. Turns out that the sphere covered by the Italian Greek DNA stretches into southern France. Now to bring this back on topic, I guess the heavy British gene is why I'm driving a Triumph and not a Citroen, and it may be why I like the darker British Ales rather than the American stuff generally available. Give me a Newcastle Brown or (don't' I wish I could still get it here) McEwans Scotch Ale. I took the battery out of my TR-6 last week after taking it for a last drive on a warm day before the predicted cold snap. I had to jump it to get it going and the next day the battery was almost flat again. I had to jump it to get it out of its stall so that I could do some work in the area so I used the opportunity to confirm that the alternator was charging (around 14V if I recall correctly). I gave it a full charge before putting it on the maintainer but I think it may be holding less and less of its charge as the days go by. Looks like a new battery will be my first spring purchase for the TR-6. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 12:47:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48152584622 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:47:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from moose.dimebank.com (moose.dimebank.com [108.68.51.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387082580B8A for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [174.16.1.11] (108-68-51-234.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [108.68.51.234]) (authenticated bits=0) by moose.dimebank.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sAPJo6jB027126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:50:06 -0800 From: Chris Kantarjiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.dimebank.com/tech/BrokenBolt.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 13:35:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808E25846A6 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:35:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13C25806FA for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:34:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.228]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5DA7D380001E4; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EEA903800008A; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:19 -0500 (EST) References: <006701d008e5$3fab2c60$bf018520$@net> To: lherault@verizon.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webmail-va003.sysops.aol.com (149.174.114.114) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:19 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416947900; bh=Z8f1qCtnPxfVcHQ8svfRsNVoSaTuD6Y/BE29wEzvv34=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AXRYyhiZD5bozZJjjzn7gaw0HXvj2h4YVBy+rLO6CpLTkhjPTXcAC5q4arvm1wdu5 0YxoO7vGdIQwlk9dwBZxwv0yeuqN/CTyxzRvYcSLwWTGNxRSNrLws/i2fsyU2kZtvI p83zOCQhEWlkWpjWLPa5FnXS8OHQDfJ/xsGeFJYo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e45474e8bb20e5 Subject: Re: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My brewing related story needs no excuse since it has inherent Triumph content. I was at the auction at the 2007 VTR in Valley Forge and I was beeing introduced to the Single Malt Society (Thanks, Tom Fansher) and I was chatting up another fellow when I glanced down at the auction and someone was holding up an old Ballentine Beer sign. Since the bidding was at about $8 I thought I would bid. I won. Next thing I knew three guys were headed my way, one with the sign and the other two with boxes of what turned out to be a brewing kit. My first thought was "Oh, crap, that's all I need, another hobby." I was tempted to take the sign home and leave the rest in the hotel room but I have too much Scotts in my for that. Since then I have brewed at least half a dozen batches but they have all been kits from Brewer's Best ( http://www.brewersbestkits.com/) (since that is what the local vendors sell) and I have been mostly happy with the results. I'm not a big fan of hops and brewing allows me to tailor the recipe and add less than the full amount of hops supplied. This allows the flavour of the malt to shine. I have not done any DNA tests but the geneology research I've seen suggest that I am a typical heinz 57 mut with ancestors from France, Germany, Scotland, Ireland and quite heavily from England. Perhaps that is why I prefer my wines from France, my beer in the English style and the best whisky is from Scotland. Ok, ok, Triumph content. My 8 (or 9) year old Optima is giving up the ghost as well. Even with the gear reduction starter it barely turns over and the voltage drops so low that the ignition will not spark and the car won't start. But I will wait until spring to replace it since it will be stashed away for the winter. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Ron L'Herault I guess the heavy British gene is why I'm driving a Triumph and not a Citroen, and it may be why I like the darker British Ales rather than the American stuff generally available. Give me a Newcastle Brown or (don't' I wish I could still get it here) McEwans Scotch Ale. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 14:06:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173FE258496F for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:06:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED235258096E for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:05:30 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1416949752; bh=ABL3jebREYU9D/KhyMoq9vq5IZztSFrgVNYTXX2dq6I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=HfFpTgz1oM3ox2HjqvTEoSzBX1v9FH2KPMFv4h0JjNfkRaQk+z0gTWQkZxbskP79mviMHfil1mT5eF1jaqYpeiKS17cIPpRFhlYSDrm2FrzjDB0d+u/0FXxuNWD7gRwABei3zXHCvp83HW8j+YLY66t0S8wNkjL3UXR89WvPTEg5LX+MpwBRFWqPTOtyF2eEoRE9Z89+kc/GlHW7uHRpZ6MO9Mv0jaoTlqMbqBkH7O/UbKv+vdO6fmAKTzlLKkS03O0BQ7mB9BcYkKyLf2OU7WMV/rF6XsQUA6A1mVVg09Dbl8pr9PdjiWtwfK/u/nxogupQpSCx00HEktmJFlU6Qw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=fwUClNXy9OA+L/VcrWrTW/HDihFzLZ+XSDPcSHb1eSv8rLEX0P95cSk4/O8v4d7M4zEUxTKQoPe5GPcO1DxWEDkjL92j7mDZgdxfFz7zgEtSTFX91xh0ZUnR/5h5kIiKrrRQH9eON6vyUc4O8rNN/VrGF0aB4mi+TcRszOiR1zkxTD+GfLdISveKpBdTuU2WOPGm7z6ykIOtbgI9dd00j4ve/tvICEruv7VP+0tPxiWvJ56wMsfCAcPuiT+Umf+ZTBJFQ1AYMCWet8Zc49o6Br9F5GDgpDO9kr5tcL8K0PUIouxM7CC70zuLphemGinGyP2geVHvaALYY8ZOGnvD7Q==; Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2014 21:09:12 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2014 21:09:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2014 21:09:12 -0000 RnAmGzJCjUy5iUA0YscnLRgMQ98qVvzFKS43Z.36p976kXVZ30riGy7o1rWXR1bnlvkB1gWtG1zb Ld_326x5iW2XDasWMwDn9g6fJ5P5hpos70I5ZRH0BgzlBZXgG4C4hg8V35o6EbbF.7e46PP1__lK EHC0eX5H8rMA5pHL2GTZf1zzmqygGfwj.x8nq1tRKP61OT0lZB_gy5jmZPJ.k6DLKjIz6wrgo5tQ SwNYxVorLlGTYc6WLtV73Fszq_U2gLznuEHYrZSVy_wwUKAS8vZyX1mWE.vzXW5z1DhEiTVfE8vb gmhsJ_3XXn3xq1xWVMxsba6Nx.uvOvLyjm.AByVtHHDhuRj.nIvjJd8LYGI0SxoV7AAV3TLPmY.T MbSsm4QYLjNS3iyhJqIui.zdTma2XiXzK4pOTK3SCwQTiJixzEmzv6vdKsujfoI2PfoIk5TBwOnT J_WVAq.7CR25GXicY7FTWyQ1kJEsGoctjbkvFJfuO3JLzs4FML1DqXKEth5Z2M.IS4O59IStQYDC A9thGs4jrZQuToKNq3MowQVeiKry2 Received: by 98.138.105.225; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:09:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:08:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Frank Fisher To: Ron L'Herault , "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <006701d008e5$3fab2c60$bf018520$@net> Subject: Re: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ronyour last name of L'Herault is very British/Englishthe last time England was conquered by a foreign force was in 1066 by William of Normandy France. he had some claim that he was rightfully owed the kingdom. i forget what that claim was.after his conquest he brought many B noble men form France to give him better allies than the conquered English. French became the language of the nobility for some time.B but as time passed the french and old english where intermingled to give us some of what we have today. as one gets further south in England you discover many named places that are obviously very french, and many street names and suburbs of London bear to that also.my cousins are all Molyneux's another french name from the past. despite the name they couldn't be more scouse!! B B and recent studies in liverpool have shown that only 12% can perform math percentages. the other 95% have no idea what math is. FrankB B B B From: Ron L'Herault To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:23 AM Subject: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Bob Labuz wrote: You are correct not bitters but bitter.B I did use Coopers Bitter for my first brew. And I am just 1/2 Limey. I guess that is the reason for the mis-quote. ---------------------------- I just got DNA results back from Ancestry.com and discovered some interesting things.B 1.B No native American in spite of what my parents told me. 2 I'm something like 45% British and 25% Italian Greek.B This was a bit of a shock since my last name is L'Herault, very French and based on a region in southern France.B Turns out that the sphere covered by the Italian Greek DNA stretches into southern France.B Now to bring this back on topic, I guess the heavy British gene is why I'm driving a Triumph and not a Citroen, and it may be why I like the darker British Ales rather than the American stuff generally available.B Give me a Newcastle Brown or (don't' I wish I could still get it here) McEwans Scotch Ale. I took the battery out of my TR-6 last week after taking it for a last drive on a warm day before the predicted cold snap.B I had to jump it to get it going and the next day the battery was almost flat again. I had to jump it to get it out of its stall so that I could do some work in the area so I used the opportunity to confirm that the alternator was charging (around 14V if I recall correctly). I gave it a full charge before putting it on the maintainer but I think it may be holding less and less of its charge as the days go by.B Looks like a new battery will be my first spring purchase for the TR-6. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 14:28:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5502584925 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:28:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bear.ext.ti.com (bear.ext.ti.com [192.94.94.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A32580946 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:28:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from dlelxv90.itg.ti.com ([172.17.2.17]) by bear.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sAPLVfJB014751 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:31:41 -0600 Received: from DFLE72.ent.ti.com (dfle72.ent.ti.com [128.247.5.109]) by dlelxv90.itg.ti.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sAPLVfgU021248 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:31:41 -0600 Received: from DFLE12.ent.ti.com ([fe80::e9a3:bf19:af96:227b]) by DFLE72.ent.ti.com ([fe80::e5e2:bab6:34dc:a483%28]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:31:40 -0600 From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: removing broken bolt Thread-Index: AdAI9lZYuGw+ylP7SgyFLHvsyMdeKg== Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:31:41 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [157.170.170.90] Subject: [TR] removing broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I second the left-handed drill posting. That, and I use a product made by Kano Labs called either Aero Kroil or Sili Kroil, both with equal success. I am judicious where I use any silicone products since I do refinishing of automobiles and the silicone is the bane of paint adhesion. Anyway, let the Kano product soak for a while. The longer the better. I sprayed a crank pulley once on a Chevy 327 after tightening the puller so much so that I thought one more oomph would snap something. I dribbled a little Aero Kroil on the joint, crank to pulley, and went about my business of setting the valve clearances on the heads. After about 40 minutes the pulley let go with such a bang that I almost wet myself, since the block was on a stand right behind me. It sounded like a gun going off. That was the most vivid demonstration of penetrating fluid creep that I had ever experienced. Ed Dallas, Tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 14:42:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78B625848C8 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:42:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28842580946 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:42:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home ([70.194.5.17]) by p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id KxmF1p00c0N2Aam01xmGNy; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:46:19 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: References: <006701d008e5$3fab2c60$bf018520$@net> <2117043944.607837.1416949712099.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100170.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:46:29 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHGfU2CVJU3s4Z7jNUa70FLOqDQmQG/z+cTnHb3vmA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Every country, state or even city has its rivalries. I live halfway between Ann Arbor and East Lansing and am more than aware of the Michigan - Michigan State loyalties. But the best story is when I was in medical school in Edinburgh, Scotland. I was in a physiology lecture when the lecturer pointed out that, due to its poor diet and lack of sunlight, Glasgow had "the highest incidence of rickets in the civilized world". To which a joker behind me shouted out, "Since when has Glasgow ever been in the civilized world?" Andrew Uprichard Born in Ireland Studied in Scotland Retired in Michigan. What?? -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Fisher Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:09 PM To: Ron L'Herault; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Ronyour last name of L'Herault is very British/Englishthe last time England was conquered by a foreign force was in 1066 by William of Normandy France. he had some claim that he was rightfully owed the kingdom. i forget what that claim was.after his conquest he brought many B noble men form France to give him better allies than the conquered English. French became the language of the nobility for some time.B but as time passed the french and old english where intermingled to give us some of what we have today. as one gets further south in England you discover many named places that are obviously very french, and many street names and suburbs of London bear to that also.my cousins are all Molyneux's another french name from the past. despite the name they couldn't be more scouse!! B B and recent studies in liverpool have shown that only 12% can perform math percentages. the other 95% have no idea what math is. FrankB B B B From: Ron L'Herault To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:23 AM Subject: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Bob Labuz wrote: You are correct not bitters but bitter.B I did use Coopers Bitter for my first brew. And I am just 1/2 Limey. I guess that is the reason for the mis-quote. ---------------------------- I just got DNA results back from Ancestry.com and discovered some interesting things.B 1.B No native American in spite of what my parents told me. 2 I'm something like 45% British and 25% Italian Greek.B This was a bit of a shock since my last name is L'Herault, very French and based on a region in southern France.B Turns out that the sphere covered by the Italian Greek DNA stretches into southern France.B Now to bring this back on topic, I guess the heavy British gene is why I'm driving a Triumph and not a Citroen, and it may be why I like the darker British Ales rather than the American stuff generally available.B Give me a Newcastle Brown or (don't' I wish I could still get it here) McEwans Scotch Ale. I took the battery out of my TR-6 last week after taking it for a last drive on a warm day before the predicted cold snap.B I had to jump it to get it going and the next day the battery was almost flat again. I had to jump it to get it out of its stall so that I could do some work in the area so I used the opportunity to confirm that the alternator was charging (around 14V if I recall correctly). I gave it a full charge before putting it on the maintainer but I think it may be holding less and less of its charge as the days go by.B Looks like a new battery will be my first spring purchase for the TR-6. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 16:21:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A69C2584513 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:21:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA56C2580771 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:20:56 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:26814] helo=cdptpa-web12) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 3D/63-13274-6BF05745; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:24:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:24:38 +0000 From: Randall To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 23:24:38 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] SPAM: Re: DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dave wrote: > My 8 (or 9) year old Optima is giving up the > ghost as well. Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I took my 4 year old "72 month" battery back to O'Reillys a couple of weeks ago, and had to argue with them to get any adjustment at all on a new battery. Turns out, their batteries are now only warrantied for 2 years! (Which is no longer indicated on the battery at all.) I only bought from them in the first place because the old one died on the way to TRfest and O'Reillys was the only local place open to 10 PM. Unless that happens again, I won't be back. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 16:28:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6575B258494E for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:28:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21EF2580771 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:27:54 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:9180] helo=cdptpa-web12) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 9B/93-16136-85115745; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:31:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:31:36 +0000 From: Randall To: terryrs@comcast.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 23:31:36 +0000 Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe this is the differnce. I actually sourced an abused TR4 engine, unknown vintage, to rebuild as a spare for the 3A, and picked up a used front plate thinking that was the only mod (other than the carb manifold). While the chain tensioner pedestal plate hole was threaded, the pedestal hole for the timing cover was not. Instead, there was a bolt hole in the block behind it. I'll have to double-check when I get home. It's possible I have the two of them confused. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 16:33:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEEA25849BF for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:33:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9522580771 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:33:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.148]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 681F6700000AC; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3C09738000084; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:37:00 -0500 (EST) References: <20141125232438.EI042.21247.root@cdptpa-web12> To: tr3driver@ca.rr.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 71.14.188.235 by webmail-vm102.sysops.aol.com (64.12.246.154) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:37:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:37:00 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416958620; bh=H+zILKDcV6sn+0TijkKK5+8mDyvl5BDgf4d9zjVJkmk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tKTRR9BewM49JtBgRQxrpBNfL05+5hvX+Hm92HU5/L6de+tGeRVK5nUuKoL2XPCKJ MZ+ZYyb5rQTCB0F3a+9CESh1XEIGY5EzUVaIwvFVRjRFqjtXc9GQG0MO3spa8C4xwL Ndy8V3WAoBwTcUdqC5N/koEn0aPjhV9gUEgwo3mg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b13945475129c44f4 Subject: Re: [TR] SPAM: Re: DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not only that but I've run this battery pretty much flat at least once. I bought a new battery from O'Reilly for the Olds last year. I hope I have better luck than that. On the other hand the one I replaced was four years old. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Randall ---- Dave wrote: > My 8 (or 9) year old Optima is giving up the > ghost as well. Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I took my 4 year old "72 month" battery back to O'Reillys a couple of weeks ago, and had to argue with them to get any adjustment at all on a new battery. Turns out, their batteries are now only warrantied for 2 years! (Which is no longer indicated on the battery at all.) I only bought from them in the first place because the old one died on the way to TRfest and O'Reillys was the only local place open to 10 PM. Unless that happens again, I won't be back. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 16:41:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6BB25849DB for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:41:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36972580809 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:41:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.143]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D4E9E380000A3; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mob005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8E60638000086; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:45:00 -0500 (EST) References: <006701d008e5$3fab2c60$bf018520$@net> <2117043944.607837.1416949712099.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100170.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <011601d008f9$47e715b0$d7b54110$@uprichard.net> To: auprichard@uprichard.net, triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 71.14.188.235 by webmail-vm102.sysops.aol.com (64.12.246.154) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:45:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:45:00 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1416959100; bh=CGyUT55KQlX+PEn65seF4fWhJh4x1Pw7raFs+WvSi2c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m9BhocbmVHMerz0INCMybKjXcuky3NiFQtEolm7S3YGVaVa0E3lUhly3OcDxTcMdP DKoS4scmAckcQpdBqwl2ydhyKPDCbTY22RWQrS2IJCKE+56ERhL3+j2UWZTUQ1fA70 2oNNBe5ukeNHs++ch5mjTCy10CjpcWmFjAsxok9w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8f5475147c35b9 Subject: Re: [TR] DNA, Bob, beer and battery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What's the difference between Glasgow and Edinburgh? Being posh in Edinburgh means you have one of those fancy tile roofs. Being posh in Glasgow means you have a roof. Dave Massey, chairman, Piping and Drumming Competition, St. Louis Scottish Games and Cultural Festival http://www.stlouis-scottishgames.com/ (BTW that is pronounced "Edinbora) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Uprichard Every country, state or even city has its rivalries. I live halfway between Ann Arbor and East Lansing and am more than aware of the Michigan - Michigan State loyalties. But the best story is when I was in medical school in Edinburgh, Scotland. I was in a physiology lecture when the lecturer pointed out that, due to its poor diet and lack of sunlight, Glasgow had "the highest incidence of rickets in the civilized world". To which a joker behind me shouted out, "Since when has Glasgow ever been in the civilized world?" Andrew Uprichard Born in Ireland Studied in Scotland Retired in Michigan. What?? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 18:02:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D965B2584A35 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:02:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from email.scrtc.com (mx1.scrtc.com [66.38.0.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B5ED12584601 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:01:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 9853 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2014 01:05:31 -0000 Received: from 64-130-185-102.pool.dsl.scrtc.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) (brianharlan@scrtc.com@64.130.185.102) by email.scrtc.com.scrtc.com with SMTP (51066e68-7508-11e4-9260-0050568c58c1); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:05:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:05:26 -0600 From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a method I have had good success with removing broken bolts or rounded out Phillips screw heads. Cut a relatively deep slot across the surface of the bolt or screw. Exposed surfaces can be cut with a hack saw or the blade of a thin cutting blade on an angle grinder. For recessed surfaces, I've used a Dremel tool with a small tip to reach down the hole and cut the slot. This can be tricky, and may require trying different tips for various situations. Forntunately, there is a multitude of tips and cutting attachments made for these tools. Then use an appropriate sized flat head screwdriver to turn it out. if you can't turn it with a regular screwdriver, try one of the screwdriver tips that can be used with a ratchet.Use this method in conjunction with the other suggestions of wax, heating, cooling, etc. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 25 19:50:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48DC2584504 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:50:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC8625805FD for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:50:08 -0700 (MST) d=execulink.com; s=execulink1; h=In-Reply-To:To:References:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Content-Type:From; bh=CuSjgbbMaQabbSuiqO0bo9syRfCt6iKL3zf4zWDdxcM=; b=Ud/7uw7n4O6s+kg+dmAS7Fw3g5aTF8ub7FbFbMqL3x+h3GD+cYuHTfcTs/gQXgaEhGSOlbCQaGeIZw2BcrLNmmTVxoipTFO0rPR9i8mRtgBCnC5rAxALMkrpe8wnnjXCCXWa7M/u4SO1uisiIUH53xz52yLUjK0iHxajci0UPsB7c9H/cRyExuT20YmvH7d4DNsOqYruWU4OUCDqAlhBJ9OQ/Z7jdBGOvv8bAGahR/hYWD9jFlNSjswNi0Xmp5YL1IVLa6mLD6ZsgRn8b3yV/NfNLBRUJfdb9iOTpRjow88HECh4IeOCVZGJyzuLhxEmsUlZ1ZVo1lY3aN2eEXuNsw==; Received: from 188-161.speede.golden.net ([216.75.188.161] helo=[192.168.4.113]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1XtSjl-0005jR-9G for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:53:49 -0500 From: Keith Stewart Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:53:48 -0500 References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net AntiVirus="3.55.0--5.08--8095649" Report='HTML_NO_HTTP 0.1, HTML_70_90 0.1, MIME_LOWER_CASE 0.05, SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, DATE_TZ_NA 0, SPF_NONE 0, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_5999 0, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS 0, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC **, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, REFERENCES 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END 0, __REFERENCES 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __ANY_URI 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NO_PATH 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE 0, __FORWARDED_MSG 0, __HAS_HTML 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0, __URI_NS 0, _216.75.188.161 **' Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:05 PM, > Then use > an appropriate sized flat head screwdriver to turn it out. if you can't > turn it with a regular screwdriver, try one of the screwdriver tips that > can be used with a ratchet.Use this method in conjunction with the other > suggestions of wax, heating, cooling, etc. b& or, you can check with your FLAPS for an impact driver. Basically, a unit like a chisel with a screwdriver tip that when struck with a hammer, turns the tip and simultaneously delivers an impact to the head. Keith Stewart keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 26 12:29:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9D12584DA1 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:29:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01BF258483B for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:28:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55024] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 99/32-13309-4BA26745; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:32:04 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:32:04 -0800 Thread-Index: AQF6VHmnBlsIvTXavDnLZsIjRdT9k50c1QOwuzcLkf3EyRyJwC5QS0V5/o8pNCA= Cc: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] removing a broken bolt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > While > the chain tensioner pedestal plate hole was threaded, the > pedestal hole for the timing cover was not. Instead, there > was a bolt hole in the block behind it. Apologies to all; Terry has it right. I was thinking of the pivot for the tensioner; the cover support does thread into the block through a hole in the plate. D'oh! -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 27 09:26:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642AB258452E for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:26:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E3E25807F1 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:25:53 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1417105775; bh=8a341Vq5NnoBnh2C3QyKIksIO6UmyLc1vsgafZOGjvE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=1j1+9eNrp+9vwTu+P9vvhqHLwiyk/hbXtW+lLmTS7IVY9+5qz6LbPFcF5Hxp17lSvA9XRD61ARsJybI/ePt09YmFN9ymeO5JnRPl83QzYTgGR3JQVnOTbElV7G0aA0jQjtdq2vp5VDj4xGhKYLNPUVOXsXYBgLmSsPhC8bMKWjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=snet.net; b=jly252rd0gla+3iskZ6YkvgYhSKoF6kb0vtGY+dTaztaDbr/ja7AAd1NnzxExAf/9Eu6UsNT2lZMcvbzeVzm7tNHw5lebYEm2nzdmm/A0DE6vQATXk4fol8FNtXSk6tHzfC1pUIAb2jfW4IywzE8ajOeH0xV321fmemE3mmntkM=; Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2014 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.240] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2014 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Nov 2014 16:29:35 -0000 Z2hPFrtVoNAq6_irGjfJu2lM4jkJ8obv1vo4lz9nUHOOQjHBRObczEtTiLKH da3AxzjtYsc46_tQ4uaCDXj.t9H2.rOqbtU_RoIWGMIbH3IDRAi9DuijSXJZ zg3I9PIfTWZ_FHYHyd7F8yQrYD9nYOOfIyugGi4cPZtMOPkMQ5WERqyhrgp3 kVvV.Gy89qSGJ3Jyd1lqBsvkNiviQkl2RdyITSmI0AbN1EwlyS7xZxUkTfYs Dw827lGUJb0eKJqCikUhWzWQQ3OltGupynj5OwXy1wKz1fUXqS2gn0NEhTHJ AyxPknz0sbG1F__p4FgwN8B0QeSQJiLbzapNT8oGNzqySGnR8XUd5c2Hbp._ 4VVMsD1jG_F2uyil90JV0xP0eQTmnbX2fKDFsbNCpwQVmRshV0iYr0R.7ojG SZzALekUN6txVAmJhdMzQTFJmcvgqBpWHeNtOX__Not8mSiKm2IAnY1yXTaY u7rclJZjL_.mb3Y7tB_.EhaUU3FGJ2cwZUn6WuY8- Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:29:38 -0500 From: john Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "stag@digest.net" , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] Hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to order some Hylomar, but I notice now there are several types available including "blue", type M, etc. Which would be closest to old fashioned Hylomar. Thanks for any info. John Mitchell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 27 09:36:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8A525845E8 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:36:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF162580876 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:36:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [67.246.76.33] ([67.246.76.33:36334] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 2C/CC-03057-6D357745; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:39:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:39:53 -0500 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 To: john Mitchell , "Triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <54775172.5070200@snet.net> a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:117 a=TGdWY25KQovz78N+ylr7Fw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ML7vOrLOuCUA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=oRvNva2s7RfEJRs8gu0A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=soM1F2fvg7kA:10 a=2rrvUiJfg0kA:10 a=0DsWh0CZmz4A:10 Subject: Re: [TR] Hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John, The tube I have is blue. I used it on my 3, 4 and 6 and it is the best sealer I have ever used. Bob On 11/27/2014 11:29 AM, john Mitchell wrote: > I need to order some Hylomar, but I notice now there are several > types available including "blue", type M, etc. Which would be closest > to old fashioned Hylomar. Thanks for any info. John Mitchell ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 27 17:29:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198CD2580930 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:29:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D2825805EC for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:29:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hl2so9175978igb.5 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:33:09 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=1BSPZgbaercrkQDY5jU22JpYOQmvKE+Og383fluZWRU=; b=cmrUOvQt4bMQZMCDJ/FmHd/T9QDrjFqCMTf/2/ZgqWX5DLunttTV+Iu2FWM/b6CKj1 Nt8dN0YjlCwq0Pp3llE3V0XczSPNSTuyuYDtioRgHs6q+WEeoi5mBfalyEZywwPGPEmU 1x8AbrJGIoa+TcGFcH/4QGmG3iEZsbjB0XakC1hIwlin6TFp2uDRwUIxcnuqIf2waed1 qYQEeoo/x6bz1u3ZCrvVJ98Ma0hXqQ6ksvMSlt+8IfckTwUCIwsEMSQo5VWYv/bQJui/ rtdtvWJ6PVUmFL740FTM2Yhy2kGK6sP9JaCGg32r4SNaHxuyaReXP3t3OcHVFAJfXYl0 gHDw== l128mr24536917ioe.65.1417134789129; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Chuck (107-211-102-56.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. [107.211.102.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kq9sm1321679igb.4.2014.11.27.16.33.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Chuck White" To: "'TR list'" Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:33:15 -0500 Thread-Index: AdAKouPYdA3A/fBvQdScqYj9yuUpjQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] 1965 TR4A for sale in Xenia, Ohio Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ibve decided to sell my 1965 TR4A. Here is the Hemmings ad. Chuck http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/triumph/tr4a/1700200.html ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 28 09:12:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5469C25846C1 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:12:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC1S14.hotmail.com (col004-omc1s14.hotmail.com [65.55.34.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D14E258097C for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:11:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL127-DS9 ([65.55.34.8]) by COL004-OMC1S14.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:15:11 -0800 From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:15:20 -0800 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:15:20 -0800 FILETIME=[7C37F850:01D00B26] Subject: [TR] hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Old fashioned blue is no longer made by Hylomar in the UK = the original guys. You now must choose between AF and M. M is closest to old blue. The difference is M, like old blue, should sit for a little while before you attach the part. It has solvents that need to evaporate. AF has no solvents. AF also is more fluid than M, so is recommended for certain applications. Old blue, I believe, is still marketed by some suppliers, but it is a private label. Not direct, actual Hylomar. Peter Arakelian - '71 TR6, Daily Driver ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 28 10:27:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED21E2584912 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:27:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F8B258459C for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:26:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55059] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 66/67-04544-B21B8745; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:30:20 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Peter Arakelian'" , "'Listers'" Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:30:19 -0800 Thread-Index: AdALJn5WM+zEkkg6SMWNo7ZzrkyKfQACbWew Subject: Re: [TR] hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Old fashioned blue is no longer made by Hylomar in the UK > = the original > guys. > > You now must choose between AF and M. M is closest to old blue. Funny, you'd think they would update their web site: http://tinyurl.com/oaw75k4 These people are in the USA, but seem to think they are getting the real thing: http://tinyurl.com/n57xldy -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 28 13:32:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAC625809C1 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:32:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CA32580818 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:32:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l15so19575050wiw.8 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=nxsQz4iKK3uG9ysFVYJwxrzJXxF08HiN/aRwGUUBKHs=; b=m2nRwp/2ECT8Zapb8S08PpO/ZkbCtWzJdO85PJ0l3/6txM4qFiA+PYGk9eSB0uk1Nf 36QO0JerqswmE7Riys8CHq9EZ0+hQH7ga0ZqlO4dU9GRK4986Umo/DTfDmBZS9giJzmM 1MB3EYgfRImJRVzV89PgRNDCRfrO7rIWu2N2QlO5v3aEKDpNwchuQBCN2irNeUybKooT hZoRSesq1c6mO36mWL+w72fX49Kt6PypQpqOxhCeGI99BNlnGYu+lRd6kFH0NS8XUD9W sW0wmRAdjc/jzaPiaATLLUnaWx1L8bm9dEIwQS12Tz4ifECxxMJPtbHotw/V5hySG53u gBeA== cn9mr64056309wib.26.1417206982172; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.170.146 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:36:02 -0800 (PST) References: <54775172.5070200@snet.net> <547753D9.6080302@adelphia.net> From: Chris Simo Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:36:02 -0500 To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought some from Amazon recently. http://tinyurl.com/kr5zvdk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 28 16:57:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC9D25849F4 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:57:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA9F258488D for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:57:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id MC131p0034oFfFQ01C131Q; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:01:04 -0700 From: "dave n" To: "list Triumph" References: <54775172.5070200@snet.net> <547753D9.6080302@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:47:37 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] Hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Black Friday - they are offering free shipping. just got it. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 2:36 PM To: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Hylomar I bought some from Amazon recently. http://tinyurl.com/kr5zvdk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 29 12:18:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245BF2584AF1 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:18:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4562580619 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:18:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.174]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7A0347040F60B for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:21:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.105] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net [216.51.203.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbe02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 861A53800009B for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:21:52 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:21:51 -0600 To: Listserv Triumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417288913; bh=gDOLifbIacReIt46W+s6z6wzXrjTsSeKiGc5J8Wt5Gk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=hyKykjy4hmnlMj5vAv2iGVtOVpSILmkC4vwc93kjSp0fkILAl3H4jYTg2x/t5dBXV V2H5R2bFaTa3gzu0vdFtFAagBRRQgn/gWUWNvjJL9Gq3TFoJTu34fb4wr03PzRfWSd iTNf77YSqi0vKvIMPje2OQqRowcMTeRdlAFmXV9Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeae547a1cd056d1 Subject: [TR] 1958 TR3A back panel in black available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List This is an exceptional piece from my personal TR3A. Needs no restoration. I replaced the interior with the optional back seat in TS30854L Can provide pictures. Next stop eBay. $150 plus shipping. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 29 20:58:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FAE2584C5F for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:58:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5E82584C1B for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:57:51 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1417320096; bh=k2/hzUmZchg6yHuyiAcLu3pPNnH8acmVlsUWauDTFnY=; h=Subject:From:Date:To:From:Subject; b=dtsjNEfyBySGe6/5vOy52OQHUt5Fm69bLVzYAZzC+2u6a3NBfwcgpk5+FRGCFtkzNcoCNnWmak1C17Rvgl8Z1eJXqeYDqpghUIdODWduS2mOQVkFsCQ7oCVlsfyXT7+UXsrN8RAEjdPxt6zc9zz9j/oKqS8cEwfnlsKVRTddaMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; b=q2SiQ4Uqv0WLnUfv1khXY0NeCElz0pl6zZjLRqwSK4CsKiLh7hHKT1L9NFZ6O2ewtsr/qu+WRgAJboxTKyeFZ+Vy3LeiCZN3A8XUClGDNtkAWLpi8JXHn/PMhF2eMKkhnAonROpbmrMFOpuuY/VoQuL7A34v4U7Z6jygpoz/M4E=; Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2014 04:01:36 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.207] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2014 04:01:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp218.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Nov 2014 04:01:36 -0000 VF50kAOqSE4lyoCBb_Kq7Xnw9kNYGviBADyZTEMmUX3uwyHMKBbNEz2HOF38 Crooo9WMAJ.O8sTm5Sgl5w6s_Xwe.YoDn0nZYPbq.F6ujFCmcBTZfLDSyyp1 gu0boU9992BfjbnNhtIr0zSjCeJHqHf8wmcCRdJkEDjSMGrkONhugWJCyiEU 5uGNmeIwELo1jkHZ1oeLL8tf4BmUpcvlH9J5WI9O0fLPwWimqEm.amexnJ3r MdySrogfS0bprRPTpgzP8ZSZME2EribVKbczfbxhjViTOHhq6vCTijaeu0xo XMH2j1731C50JjHIgnqGpzVVefg23Pcw4ZnsWryR_p_.DxT6wFpyJALMOjcC ukW7ddw6yUzDn7W0SClZ11Slx6vGQn9_yjyiss0m.bsg8d6eaVCc3M7UY8rr lZ55KH1a8JE4p69rxJTrAZpKJMi6WIUqOg8WI.GF0l0groT2T9pplIhjZAE9 lEVh.G2LhpGk_dqmslFxb4kN4uZ6J7M6zdwZNy4d94e_Tq0h3g6k6GqE- From: john-marie@sbcglobal.net Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:01:33 -0600 To: "" Subject: [TR] TR4A fuel lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List, Have installed Victoria British supplied 5/16" copper fuel line from tank to pump. My TR4A has Z-S carbs and uses the carb to carb pipe with a "T". I have this pipe and it is reusable. It did not come with the VB kit. This original pipe is 1/4", as is the pipe that runs to it from the pump. The VB kit has a 40" length of 5/6" pipe to get from pump to carbs, but I need 1/4" pipe. Before I look for a length of 1/4" pipe from another source, or figure out how to step down at the carbs, thought I'd ask the List if anyone has had this issue. Thanks. John DeLuca ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 07:14:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9515B2584E2F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:14:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.fuse.net (smtpout.cincibell.syn-alias.com [64.8.71.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81E82580351 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:12:51 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:17 a=w1lZMHalAAAA:8 a=sfHLmnyYAAAA:8 a=dFZCZOJhsHgMu2yGjkYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MKLJsRtlLX8A:10 a=rEx4Ob36si0A:10 a=15OXzPznEjoA:10 a=lZtLY5c-D4ad3Qr2aiwA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=44oFqzPLC_h-eJu9:21 a=jhuQplDhD+1Fhj9ECbjk7g==:117 X_CMAE_Category: , , Received: from [74.215.65.95] ([74.215.65.95:50906] helo=DaveLaptop) by smtpout.cincibell.syn-alias.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.2.43620 r(Platform:3.6.2.0)) with ESMTP id C8/BE-16445-3C62B745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:16:36 -0500 From: "Dave Connitt" To: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:16:43 -0500 Subject: [TR] Broken speedometer cable - again- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR4A speedometer cable broke again yesterday! The needle on the second speedometer was kind of wobbly so I suspect part of the problem is the speedometer itself but I think I would like to know if anybody has any ideas. I am on my second or third cable since I got the car running last year. Anyway, I would appriciate any tips on keeping my speedometer working.. Thanks, Dave Connitt http://www.davestr4a.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 07:40:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58732584E8C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:40:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FC72584E07 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:40:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20141130144346.HYBW5815.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:43:46 -0500 Received: from mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net ([68.114.190.28]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id Mqjm1p0030dCcRg05qjmZe; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:43:46 -0500 Received: from impout004 ([68.114.189.19]) by mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.013.00 201-2473-140) with ESMTP id <20141130144346.IPCR11840.mtaout003.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout004> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 08:43:46 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.141.54]) by impout004 with charter.net id Mqjm1p00B1Ad7N801qjmWX; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 08:43:46 -0600 a=rEqonG132cDmYIEwKpRI+w==:117 a=rEqonG132cDmYIEwKpRI+w==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=AFAWqqj8AAAA:20 a=ghAIYw3PAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=jwv0zLivxa_jAjDHcd8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DrqfIlqSmQgA:10 a=PpvQEwnPbwYA:10 a=7igTq8iR6_4A:10 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:43:49 -0500 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <54775172.5070200@snet.net> <547753D9.6080302@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Hylomar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/28/2014 3:36 PM, Chris Simo wrote: > I bought some from Amazon recently. > > http://tinyurl.com/kr5zvdk Zoro Tools -- Home of good bargains and confusing web sites - has several varieties at popular prices. http://www.zoro.com/s/?q=hylomar Don't be fooled by the pictures - click through to see the descriptions. Why they separate them like that is a mystery... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 09:45:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2552584EF3 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:45:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761C92580764 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:45:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-14v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.238]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Msmj1p00458ss0Y01sowo8; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:48:56 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-463v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.242]) by resomta-po-14v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Msov1p00M5DXkUJ01sovMy; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:48:56 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:48:55 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Dave Connitt References: <9ABAC0026ED74AB89B55004BBFEC78A4@DaveLaptop> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Broken speedometer cable - again- Thread-Index: jTIVgUSHkB4Vmntss/y2+g3SW4Kz/Q== Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Broken speedometer cable - again- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >I am on my second or third cable since I got the car >running last year. >Anyway, I would appriciate any tips on keeping my speedometer working.. Ditto here! Mine broke last month. I have a replacement but haven't installed it yet. Are there different speedo cables for OD's? That make a difference? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 09:58:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4498C2580A32 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:58:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFCD2580A32 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:57:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55003] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 2C/46-29028-C5D4B745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:01:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave Connitt'" , Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:01:15 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAMqGHiDxtl9w51R3yBdvluXscBcAAFLfrQ Subject: Re: [TR] Broken speedometer cable - again- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > My TR4A speedometer cable broke again yesterday! > The needle on the second speedometer was kind of wobbly so I > suspect part of > the problem is the speedometer itself but I think I would > like to know if > anybody has any ideas. That is exactly my idea; I've seen it several times. Inside the speedo, there is a steel shaft that rides in a porous bronze bushing. When it gets old, the oil dries up and the bushing starts to bind just a little bit. The speedometer still works, because the shaft still turns, but it puts extra strain on the cable (and angle drive for cars that have one). But the friction also generates heat, which drives the oil out even more, and also tends to make the bushing grab the shaft harder. Eventually, the cable can't deal with the extra load, and breaks. When I bought Stag #2, the previous owner had just "fixed" the speedometer by replacing the angle drive. Speedo worked fine for about 100 miles (on the way home) then the angle drive broke again. When I got home, the speedo still worked, but I could feel the drag in that bushing. Added some lubrication to the bushing, and the replacement angle drive was still working fine at least 10,000 miles later (the car is off the road for other reasons). The trip and odometer mechanisms also dry out and bind up (the ones on my TR3 were actually rusty inside), which adds load to the cable and, at least in my case, caused fairly wide swings in the needle at speed. The ratchet action that drives the dials means the dials are only connected to the cable part of the time. The needle drops down, because the speedo shaft is actually turning slower as the inner cable twists under the extra load. Then the ratchet lifts, disconnecting the dial, and the needle rises above truth as the inner cable untwists. If you've ever bent a wire back and forth until it breaks, you can see why the constant twisting and untwisting shortens the life of the cable. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 10:09:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7256B2584F60 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:09:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A3125845C8 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:09:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55005] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A2/8E-04882-E205B745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:13:19 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:13:18 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAMwO+hH+79FSQjR4eGogFHVL0unQ== Subject: Re: [TR] Broken speedometer cable - again- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Are there different speedo cables for OD's? That make a difference? Yes, but for TR2-6, the difference is only the length and whether an angle drive is used. The cable works the same. In case anyone doesn't have it, here's a link to Tony Rhodes' speedo article: http://home.comcast.net/~rhodes/PDF/speedo.pdf -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 10:40:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FF72584F51 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:40:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08B02580B96 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:40:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.148.60.115] ([98.148.60.115:55068] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D3/2A-04882-3775B745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:44:19 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'dave n'" , Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 09:44:19 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAMSg2olR1qxrzSSHiVBMJR/7s+vAAdwUqw Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 temp gage issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I replaced the temp sensor with an older one I had around, > and as far as I > know is working, same result. tested it with hot water; get > about 100% > connectivity using my tester when cold; drops way off when hot. There's something wrong with this picture. The sender resistance should be relatively high when cold, and go down as it gets hot. > hook up the used gages, voltage regulator, wire it up battery > to vr (grounded) > to gage to sensor in car, it pins right when the car is > warmed up. same for > other gage. How did you connect to the sender? If it was through the car's wiring, I'd suspect a short to ground (or something wired into the circuit that shouldn't be there). I'd also suggest picking up a digital multimeter (DMM). Even a fairly good one is a lot cheaper than replacing a part that doesn't need to be replaced. And the cheap ones (which will do) can be under $10. Here's one on Amazon that looks reasonable http://tinyurl.com/lwr7yvf Or the same thing on flea-bay http://tinyurl.com/k595mho And of course there's always Horrible Freight. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 11:24:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54DB2584F98 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:24:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A67B2580468 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:23:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id MuTC1p0044oFfFQ01uTCbx; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:27:13 -0700 From: "dave n" To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 12:13:16 -0600 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 temp gage issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net yes, you are right. got it backwards. sorry. I have a multi meter. thatbs what I used. was all external to the cars wiring. will do some more testing today and report back. I've gotten lots of suggestions! -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:44 AM To: 'dave n' ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [TR] TR6 temp gage issues > I replaced the temp sensor with an older one I had around, > and as far as I > know is working, same result. tested it with hot water; get > about 100% > connectivity using my tester when cold; drops way off when hot. There's something wrong with this picture. The sender resistance should be relatively high when cold, and go down as it gets hot. > hook up the used gages, voltage regulator, wire it up battery > to vr (grounded) > to gage to sensor in car, it pins right when the car is > warmed up. same for > other gage. How did you connect to the sender? If it was through the car's wiring, I'd suspect a short to ground (or something wired into the circuit that shouldn't be there). I'd also suggest picking up a digital multimeter (DMM). Even a fairly good one is a lot cheaper than replacing a part that doesn't need to be replaced. And the cheap ones (which will do) can be under $10. Here's one on Amazon that looks reasonable http://tinyurl.com/lwr7yvf Or the same thing on flea-bay http://tinyurl.com/k595mho And of course there's always Horrible Freight. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 11:59:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FFB25844A1 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:59:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E772580092 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:59:44 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:62806] helo=cdptpa-web26) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id B5/11-29028-10A6B745; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:03:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:03:29 +0000 From: Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 19:03:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [TR] Broken speedometer cable - again- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There is certainly a chance that it is in th speedo. You might try spinning it by hand and seeing if there is any resistance. The speedo is pretty easy to remove. I have some square drive bits that fit from cheapo tool kits I have purchased that work, smallish Phillips. The speedo and trip odo numbers can stick and make the speedo bounce, maybe make the cable break. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 16:16:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B652584736 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:16:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B062580946 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:15:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.208]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 49B6B703E6D4D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moe004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.77]) by mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1515838000082 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:19:05 -0500 (EST) References: <39300009EE6247E4883C76E8BD1AC3DA@Ranteer.local> <8D1DAF66D560DEF-86C-37156@webmail-va019.sysops.aol.com> <2F1E109B0F074C66997043E5024F6FCF@Ranteer.local> To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 71.14.188.235 by webmail-vm009.sysops.aol.com (64.12.255.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:19:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:19:04 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417389545; bh=bFy0IzxspRYvVvDXuGLG9LgLTmmxxevQ4ndRGxtekns=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eQXM/cUkoWx9o3fOkwcsYADIgbjVKXcMYClmbkT+qcWAkEA7aq9Oi9v6lvuFN1eSK rrcrEjqynn8CxK98mzIxx12mVUzhaALQUHv7Xnk+sLsaos1hQh6yppAcmSswQjcyep /re/hCMB82eQeX/nwjPa/dVJFgFrfOpwuIhUPh/k= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1aded0547ba5e94168 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 temp gage issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know your meter and I don't know if the readings are significant of anything. The Continuity test on most meters is good for finding closed contacts and wire connections. If you switch over to Ohms you will get readings with significance. Presuming the numbers you are getting are KOhms your values are not too far off and I suspect your temp senders are OK. If anything they may be reading a bit high which would give you low readings, not high. My experience with thermistors is that when they go bad they go open and that is not the case here. And you are getting the same results with swapping out the senders and the gauges. So what is common among these two setups? The voltage stabilizer for one. And the wiring. The wire between the sender and the gauge can be bypassed with a couple of jumpers. The Voltage Stabilizer can be checked with the volt meter. That would be my next step. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: dave n here is what I did today. tried to document every detail. looks to me like the sending unit is bad. both??? btw - fuel gage seems to read fine did I miss anything? 1 - replace the thermostat 2. started car with lots of choke; idling about 1500 rpm 3. gage starts out pinned left; after a couple minutes it starts to move right 4. infrared says temp of t stat housing is 112 and climbing 5. at 120 gage is vertical 6. turn off choke, rev engine; settles in at idle of 1200 or so, which is normal (engine is not stock!) 7. tstat housing temperature in the 125 to 130 range; gage is moving right 8. after 5 to 10 minutes, gage has settled just left of the red square under the letter H 9. temperature is now in the 150 to 160 range; gage has moved farther right. as the temperature passes 170 it [pins right 10. shut off car 11. set up secondary system - positive terminal to voltage regulator, vr is grounded as it should be, then vr to gage to sending unit 12. it still pins right. this is using separate gage, separate sending unit, and completely independent of the cars wiring system except the battery and chassis 13. connected mulitmeter from positive terminal to t stat housing and to temperature switch threads. both read over 12 volts 14. old switch - which was in the car originally - I used the continuity tester - i get 0 when the two probes touch, 1 when one nothing is connected 15. connecting through the old switch (cold) i get .588 16. swapped original sending unit back in; car was still pretty warm (off except for power) 17. temp gage moved to almost full hot 18. disconnected car wiring from sending unit; plugged in "external" temp gage system; also read way right 19. temp sensor which was in there - measures 5.6 or so on the continuity tester cold 20. put it in boiling water - continuity tester reads .13 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 16:32:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49F0258483C for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:32:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA3E25800B5 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:32:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.227]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 498033800006D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-moe004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.77]) by mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EF9C538000087 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:36:09 -0500 (EST) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: Dave Received: from 71.14.188.235 by webmail-vm009.sysops.aol.com (64.12.255.130) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:36:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:36:09 -0500 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1417390570; bh=r8s7f0/F0+ixI1omb3NhajfTeYbtF7u9au4R8xeF0Yw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k9AhGcoStCidLiM7z01kQzx9FczuAf2uXZfKhTqsU4PkOPCQYXqDfNK5GUulPmVoS XIK5AwRxL982KlowGcxPwNb1xSPTYQM20VxJgI8QyDT8mA7gpPrWAeoogLUvi+azSY Ej7rfv1c/W6p9h5guBjgNyNbIm4CXtnelVCg7L4c= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e3547ba9e91c5e Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fuel lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi John. 1/4 inch tubing can be had at any hardware store so if you want to go that way the only issue is the compression sleeve at the pump which is a special since it is a 5/16 compression fitting. But Moss lists it (376-565) I checked McMaster-Carr for a 1/4 to 5/16 barbed coupler but found nothing. But you can get a 1/4 to male pipe adapter and a 5/16 to female pipe adapter and screw them together. Or if your "T" is 1/4 inch maybe you can find a 5/16 barb to 1/4 compression fitting. (This all presumes you will use a short piece of hose to make the connections, which is typical in these cars.) Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: john-marie To: Sent: Sun, Nov 30, 2014 1:21 pm Subject: [TR] TR4A fuel lines Hi List, Have installed Victoria British supplied 5/16" copper fuel line from tank to pump. My TR4A has Z-S carbs and uses the carb to carb pipe with a "T". I have this pipe and it is reusable. It did not come with the VB kit. This original pipe is 1/4", as is the pipe that runs to it from the pump. The VB kit has a 40" length of 5/6" pipe to get from pump to carbs, but I need 1/4" pipe. Before I look for a length of 1/4" pipe from another source, or figure out how to step down at the carbs, thought I'd ask the List if anyone has had this issue. Thanks. John DeLuca ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 16:47:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468B22584858 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:47:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1988A258454E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:47:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from vznit170158pub.verizon.net ([192.168.1.60]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTP id <0NFV00DKMM8X7JX0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:50:58 -0600 (CST) a=fN6Osi8fgP70p3sIWdBKCg==:117 a=xkUZaXdIKeAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=ReauhAK5AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=lwPuN5d_lJnAYVCeK2UA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from 71.127.37.236 ([71.127.37.236]) by vznit170158.mailsrvcs.net (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:50:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:50:57 -0600 (CST) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 temp gage issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, I went through this exact same thing at the beginning of this summer. Gauge was reading high, which it never has done in the 10 years I have owned my 72 TR6. I initially was headed to the voltage stab. myself, but as in your case, my fuel gauge was fine. I ended up flushing the entire cooling system several times, until the brown water coming out turned light brown. I refilled with 50/50, put in some water wetter, and it went back to normal right in the middle of hot and cold and I never had an issue all summer. Just my experience. Craig On 11/30/14, Dave wrote: I don't know your meter and I don't know if the readings are significant of anything. The Continuity test on most meters is good for finding closed contacts and wire connections. If you switch over to Ohms you will get readings with significance. Presuming the numbers you are getting are KOhms your values are not too far off and I suspect your temp senders are OK. If anything they may be reading a bit high which would give you low readings, not high. My experience with thermistors is that when they go bad they go open and that is not the case here. And you are getting the same results with swapping out the senders and the gauges. So what is common among these two setups? The voltage stabilizer for one. And the wiring. The wire between the sender and the gauge can be bypassed with a couple of jumpers. The Voltage Stabilizer can be checked with the volt meter. That would be my next step. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: dave n here is what I did today. tried to document every detail. looks to me like the sending unit is bad. both??? btw - fuel gage seems to read fine did I miss anything? 1 - replace the thermostat 2. started car with lots of choke; idling about 1500 rpm 3. gage starts out pinned left; after a couple minutes it starts to move right 4. infrared says temp of t stat housing is 112 and climbing 5. at 120 gage is vertical 6. turn off choke, rev engine; settles in at idle of 1200 or so, which is normal (engine is not stock!) 7. tstat housing temperature in the 125 to 130 range; gage is moving right 8. after 5 to 10 minutes, gage has settled just left of the red square under the letter H 9. temperature is now in the 150 to 160 range; gage has moved farther right. as the temperature passes 170 it [pins right 10. shut off car 11. set up secondary system - positive terminal to voltage regulator, vr is grounded as it should be, then vr to gage to sending unit 12. it still pins right. this is using separate gage, separate sending unit, and completely independent of the cars wiring system except the battery and chassis 13. connected mulitmeter from positive terminal to t stat housing and to temperature switch threads. both read over 12 volts 14. old switch - which was in the car originally - I used the continuity tester - i get 0 when the two probes touch, 1 when one nothing is connected 15. connecting through the old switch (cold) i get .588 16. swapped original sending unit back in; car was still pretty warm (off except for power) 17. temp gage moved to almost full hot 18. disconnected car wiring from sending unit; plugged in "external" temp gage system; also read way right 19. temp sensor which was in there - measures 5.6 or so on the continuity tester cold 20. put it in boiling water - continuity tester reads .13 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 30 19:07:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88F32584A04 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:07:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BDC25809D6 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:06:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141201021036.ORCO8187.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from Lambert1 ([68.109.93.91]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id N2Ab1p00V1yGXXG012AcW2; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 21:10:36 -0500 a=z7CHyZsHPyK8nm+joc8ZBA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=wzN344fxAAAA:8 a=oNHBvYthdykErYyaVLQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=syBBNlCqLJ0A:10 a=GuChXw9LJQ4A:10 a=3byyH5hqb5EA:10 a=jTYDJDQ2ldgA:10 a=z7CHyZsHPyK8nm+joc8ZBA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "D&BLambert" To: References: <8D1DB0D8DBA9476-1F18-3A7AA@webmail-vm009.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:09:14 -0800 Thread-Index: AdAM9nivMJlzMFodSDyA4hBy7GCf3wAFNoMA Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A fuel lines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John, I had a similar issue when I cut in a couple of fuel filters on my TR3. Used this adapter from JEGS. http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/15945/10002/-1 Seems to be working well. Dennis > I checked McMaster-Carr for a 1/4 to 5/16 barbed coupler but found > nothing. (This > all presumes you will use a > short piece of hose to make the > connections, which is typical in these > cars.) > > Dave Massey ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/archive