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http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --===============8657473386799345735==-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 1 08:44:52 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64972A106A for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.103.146.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAB7A0F26 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:44:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-a1p-077049.sys.comcast.net ([96.103.145.227]) by resqmta-a1p-077435.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id wO0SnpgxQsGdHwPaXnKTba; Wed, 01 Jun 2022 14:44:45 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1654094685; bh=Q8A+Y6MoxRRvWlLdYQiIcWye48AsggSMqZOCKpC9ieA=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date: Message-Id:To; b=jCCkd0Z9tufrDLK7Le0oRLfXZsE/ahGLZWDgZMEiUP68TN/2+pFWJ3I5l9abBqQAU 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Replaced functioning original voltage regulator for= solid state. The solid state regulator lasted about a year and I=E2=80=99m= back to the reliable analog original=20 Bob TR6=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2022, at 8:05 AM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I went through three digital stabilizers in my TR4 before I reverted to an= original analog one and haven=E2=80=99t had a problem since. > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, MI > =20 > From: Triumphs On Behalf Of William Brew= er > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 10:13 PM > To: Triumph List > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer > =20 > I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage stab= ilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the 10 volts= . Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage stabilizers? Are ther= e better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal about "Modern electronics in a= vintage style housing". Screw the vintage style housing, I want dependabili= ty. Is there an aftermarket one that has a long life? >=20 > TIA, >=20 > Bill Brewer >=20 > Morro Bay, CA >=20 > 1960 TR3 >=20 > 1953 Morgan Plus4 >=20 >=20 > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archi= ve >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochli= n@comcast.net --Apple-Mail-32084DDC-9DFE-4734-A219-6244CB2BF4E6 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found the same thing.  Replaced func= tioning original voltage regulator for solid state.  The solid state re= gulator lasted about a year and I=E2=80=99m back to the reliable analog orig= inal 
Bob
TR6 

Sent from my i= Phone

On Jun 1, 2022, at= 8:05 AM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=

I went through three digital stabilizers in my TR4 be= fore I reverted to an original analog one and haven=E2=80=99t had a problem s= ince.

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, MI

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team= .net> On Behalf Of William Brewer
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 10:13 PM
To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

 

     I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Mo= ss gauge voltage stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit ou= tputting the 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage s= tabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Scr= ew the vintage style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket o= ne that has a long life?

     TIA,

     Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA

     1960 TR3

     1953 Morgan Plus4

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Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:37:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:36:55 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c.ref@yahoo.com> <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8029377330159879404== boundary="----=_Part_5834942_1399579824.1654101415892" ------=_Part_5834942_1399579824.1654101415892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to be pedantic, but the original is a digital regulator.=C2=A0 It is c= omposed of the bimetal spring and a heater=C2=A0 As the heater heats up the= bimetal spring will open the contacts and switch off the heater (and the v= oltage to the gauges).=C2=A0 As the spring cools off the spring will switch= the power back on and so the cycle continues giving an average voltage of = 10 volts. The electronic versions are actually analog.=C2=A0 They use a classic integ= rated circuit voltage regulator that is a tried and proven part.=C2=A0 If t= hey are prone to failure it is because the designer did not make proper pre= cautions against the very unfriendly environment a car's electric power sys= tem is.=C2=A0 This is especially true in older cars.=C2=A0 When loads are s= witched on and off there are voltage spikes, both positive and negative, th= at will far exceed the ratings on typical solid state components.=C2=A0 Mot= ors are especially prone to doing this.=C2=A0 Heater fans, wipers, starter = motors. I have designed many custom electronic devices for my cars and I have never= had one fail.=C2=A0 But I don't cheap out on the protection devices.=C2=A0= The Crane ignition module is another example of an electronic device that = stands up well to the nastiness doled out by the car's electrical system. All that said, I still run an OE voltage stabilizer in my TR6.=C2=A0 Never = found a need to change it. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 I went through three digital stabilizers in my TR4 before I reve= rted to an original analog one and haven=E2=80=99t had a problem since. ------=_Part_5834942_1399579824.1654101415892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not to be pedantic, but the original is a digital re= gulator.  It is composed of the bimetal spring and a heater  As t= he heater heats up the bimetal spring will open the contacts and switch off= the heater (and the voltage to the gauges).  As the spring cools off = the spring will switch the power back on and so the cycle continues giving = an average voltage of 10= volts.

The electronic versions are actually analog.  Th= ey use a classic integrated circuit voltage regulator that is a tried and p= roven part.  If they are prone to failure it is because the designer d= id not make proper precautions against the very unfriendly environment a ca= r's electric power system is.  This is especially true in older cars.&= nbsp; When loads are switched on and off there are voltage spikes, both pos= itive and negative, that will far exceed the ratings on typical solid state= components.  Motors are especially prone to doing this.  Heater = fans, wipers, starter motors.

I have designed many custom electronic devices for my= cars and I have never had one fail.  But I don't cheap out on the pro= tection devices.  The Crane ignition module is another example of an e= lectronic device that stands up well to the nastiness doled out by the car'= s electrical system.

All that said, I still run an OE voltage stabilizer i= n my TR6.  Never found a need to change it.

Dave





=20 =20
I went through three digital stabilizers in my TR4 before I= reverted to an original analog one and haven=E2=80=99t had a problem since= .

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Wed, 01 Jun 2022 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 15:38:42 -0400 To: Anthony Rhodes Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer Cc: "Triumphs \(triumphs@autox.team.net\)" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7212438805745464585== --00000000000029192b05e0680a27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And I as well. I was thinking it should be a simple device, but had not dug into the details. I know that the single component won't be enough, though. On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 14:40 Anthony Rhodes wrote: > I built my own voltage stabilizer. > > At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of > a crude shunt regulator. > > I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator. > > Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic > regulators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other > components around it. > > As I recall, These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs bent > over 90 degrees and no heat sinking. > > Not ideal > > All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output > side of the regulator. > > My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use since probably a= bout 2004 > with no problems in a TR4A > > I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are > interested. > > -Tony > > > > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700 > > From: William Brewer > > To: Triumph List > > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer > > Message-ID: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed" > > > > ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage > > stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the > > 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage > > stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal > > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw the vintag= e > > style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that > > has a long life? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/fishplate@gmail.com > --00000000000029192b05e0680a27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And I as well.=C2=A0 I was thinking it should be a simple= device, but had not dug into the details.=C2=A0 I know that the single com= ponent won't be enough, though.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 14:40 Anthony Rhode= s <spamiam@comcast.net> wr= ote:
I built my own voltage stabili= zer.

At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of a= crude shunt regulator.

I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator.
Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic regul= ators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other compone= nts around it.

As I recall,=C2=A0 These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs be= nt over 90 degrees and no heat sinking.

Not ideal

All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output s= ide of the regulator.

My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use since probably abo= ut 2004 with no problems in a TR4A

I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are interest= ed.

-Tony

>
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.n= et wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700
> From: William Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer
> Message-ID: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e= 75ceb2468c@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"= flowed"
>
> ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage =
> stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting th= e
> 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage
> stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw= the vintage
> style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that =
> has a long life?

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Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic322.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:18:29 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:18:25 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "spamiam@comcast.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer Cc: "billbrewer59@yahoo.com" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2830459241632292515== boundary="----=_Part_5968128_510740390.1654114705700" ------=_Part_5968128_510740390.1654114705700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I go way beyond that.=C2=A0 First I use a 1N4004 to protect against negati= ve-going spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), then I place a 15V Zen= er or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can be as high as 120V)= .=C2=A0 Depending on the application I also include a low value resistor or= polyfuse to limit the current the TVS needs to sink.=C2=A0 Then there is t= he input filter as you pointed out. This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability to test for optimum a= nd considering I'm only going to build a few (or one) of these things a lit= tle overkill is cheap insurance. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Rhodes To: triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer I built my own voltage stabilizer. At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of a= crude shunt regulator. I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator. Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic regul= ators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other compone= nts around it. As I recall,=C2=A0 These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs be= nt over 90 degrees and no heat sinking. Not ideal All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output s= ide of the regulator. My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use since probably abo= ut 2004 with no problems in a TR4A I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are interest= ed. -Tony >=20 > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700 > From: William Brewer > To: Triumph List > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer > Message-ID: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed" >=20 > ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage=20 > stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the= =20 > 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage=20 > stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal=20 > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw the vintage= =20 > style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that=20 > has a long life? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e sey@cs.com ------=_Part_5968128_510740390.1654114705700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I go way beyond that.  First I use a 1N4004 to = protect against negative-going spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), = then I place a 15V Zener or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which c= an be as high as 120V).  Depending on the application I also include a= low value resistor or polyfuse to limit the current the TVS needs to sink.=   Then there is the input filter as you pointed out.

This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability= to test for optimum and considering I'm only going to build a few (or one)= of these things a little overkill is cheap insurance.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

I built my own voltage stabilizer.

At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transist= or as a form of a crude shunt regulator.

I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V ana= log regulator.

Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer= electronic regulators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with= no other components around it.

As I recall,  These used a through hole TO 220 device= with the legs bent over 90 degrees and no heat sinking.

Not ideal

All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the = input in output side of the regulator.

My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use s= ince probably about 2004 with no problems in a TR4A

I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if = they are interested.

-Tony

>
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700
> From: William Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.= com>
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.n= et>
> Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format= =3D"flowed"
>
> ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Mo= ss gauge voltage
> stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the q= uit outputting the
> 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on thei= r voltage
> stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss ma= kes a big deal
> about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing"= . Screw the vintage
> style housing, I want dependability. Is there an afte= rmarket one that
> has a long life?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 47fc91d184124d0c44f93c3a2e31ebfc; Wed, 01 Jun 2022 21:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 14:20:40 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Content-Language: en-US From: William Brewer To: Triumph List References: mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: Re: [TR] TR3/4 Rear Wheel Studs Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4832977942311107327== boundary="------------wae070kHhfdwYd93WH0Wn0rG" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------wae070kHhfdwYd93WH0Wn0rG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit      Just to clarify, the broken stud was a screw-in stud and not the pressed-in stud. 661-320 STUD, disc wheel | Moss Motors      In this rare occurrence, I don't need any other parts at the moment and can't make the minimum Moss order. I guess that I can load up on things that I may need in the future...      Does anyone have a spare laying around? The disk wheel studs have 16 or 17 threads on the outside. The wire wheel studs have about 12.      -Bill Brewer On 6/1/2022 10:58 AM, William Brewer wrote: >      I just snapped off a rear wheel stud on my TR3. It twisted and > snapped about 3 threads into the rear axle flange. Question: With the > studs out is it a through hole to the back of the axle flange or is it > a bottomed hole? I need to get an EZ-out in there and want to make > sure that it is okay to drill straight through. > >      Also, does anyone have a TR3 or TR4 disk wheel stud that they can > spare that they can give/sell me? > >      Thanks, > >      -Bill Brewer > >      Morro Bay, CA > --------------wae070kHhfdwYd93WH0Wn0rG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

     Just to clarify, the broken stud was a screw-in stud and not the pressed-in stud.

    661-320 STUD, disc wheel | Moss Motors

     In this rare occurrence, I don't need any other parts at the moment and can't make the minimum Moss order. I guess that I can load up on things that I may need in the future...

     Does anyone have a spare laying around? The disk wheel studs have 16 or 17 threads on the outside. The wire wheel studs have about 12.

     -Bill Brewer



On 6/1/2022 10:58 AM, William Brewer wrote:
     I just snapped off a rear wheel stud on my TR3. It twisted and snapped about 3 threads into the rear axle flange. Question: With the studs out is it a through hole to the back of the axle flange or is it a bottomed hole? I need to get an EZ-out in there and want to make sure that it is okay to drill straight through.

     Also, does anyone have a TR3 or TR4 disk wheel stud that they can spare that they can give/sell me?

     Thanks,

     -Bill Brewer

     Morro Bay, CA

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Alex = Thomson

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From:= = Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = Sujit Roy
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 2:49 = PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] TR^ for = sale

 

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In automotive applications I don=E2=80=99t think there is TOO much protectio= n. =20 So far the LM2940=E2=80=99s own protection has been sufficient. But the car= does not do very many miles each year. So it may simply be too soon to kno= w=20 -Tony >=20 > On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:18 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I go way beyond that. First I use a 1N4004 to protect against negative-go= ing spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), then I place a 15V Zener or T= VS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can be as high as 120V). Depen= ding on the application I also include a low value resistor or polyfuse to l= imit the current the TVS needs to sink. Then there is the input filter as y= ou pointed out. >=20 > This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability to test for optimum a= nd considering I'm only going to build a few (or one) of these things a litt= le overkill is cheap insurance. >=20 > Dave=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Rhodes > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com > Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm > Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer >=20 > I built my own voltage stabilizer. >=20 > At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of a= crude shunt regulator. >=20 > I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator. >=20 > Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic regu= lators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other compone= nts around it. >=20 > As I recall, These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs bent o= ver 90 degrees and no heat sinking. >=20 > Not ideal >=20 > All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output s= ide of the regulator. >=20 > My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use since probably ab= out 2004 with no problems in a TR4A >=20 > I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are interes= ted. >=20 > -Tony >=20 > >=20 > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > >=20 > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700 > > From: William Brewer > > To: Triumph List > > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer > > Message-ID: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed" > >=20 > > ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage=20= > > stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the=20= > > 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage=20 > > stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal=20 > > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw the vintage= =20 > > style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that=20= > > has a long life? >=20 > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1ma= ssey@cs.com --Apple-Mail-091E4AB0-2200-4ACD-A554-8D47614A9100 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent circuit protection!

In automotive applications I don=E2=80=99t think there is TOO much pro= tection.   

So far the LM2940=E2=80=99s o= wn protection has been sufficient.  But the car does not do very many m= iles each year.  So it may simply be too soon to know 
<= br>
-Tony


On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:18 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wro= te:

=EF= =BB=BF
I go way beyond that.  First I use a 1N4004 to p= rotect against negative-going spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), th= en I place a 15V Zener or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can b= e as high as 120V).  Depending on the application I also include a low v= alue resistor or polyfuse to limit the current the TVS needs to sink.  T= hen there is the input filter as you pointed out.

This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability t= o test for optimum and considering I'm only going to build a few (or one) of= these things a little overkill is cheap insurance.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

I built my own voltage stabilizer.

At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transisto= r as a form of a crude shunt regulator.

I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V anal= og regulator.

Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer e= lectronic regulators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no= other components around it.

As I recall,  These used a through hole TO 220 device w= ith the legs bent over 90 degrees and no heat sinking.

Not ideal

All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the i= nput in output side of the regulator.

My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use si= nce probably about 2004 with no problems in a TR4A

I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if t= hey are interested.

-Tony

>
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, = triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700
> From: William Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.co= m>
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net= >
> Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D= "flowed"
>
> ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Mos= s gauge voltage
> stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the qu= it outputting the
> 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their= voltage
> stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss mak= es a big deal
> about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing".= Screw the vintage
> style housing, I want dependability. Is there an after= market one that
> has a long life?



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In my line of work making stuff goof-proof pays off in the long run.=20 =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Rhodes To: DAVID MASSEY Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; billbrewer59@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 6:05 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer Excellent circuit protection! In automotive applications I don=E2=80=99t think there is TOO much protecti= on. =C2=A0=C2=A0 So far the LM2940=E2=80=99s own protection has been sufficient. =C2=A0But t= he car does not do very many miles each year. =C2=A0So it may simply be too= soon to know=C2=A0 -Tony On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:18 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote: =EF=BB=BF I go way beyond that.=C2=A0 First I use a 1N4004 to protect again= st negative-going spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), then I place = a 15V Zener or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can be as high= as 120V).=C2=A0 Depending on the application I also include a low value re= sistor or polyfuse to limit the current the TVS needs to sink.=C2=A0 Then t= here is the input filter as you pointed out. This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability to test for optimum a= nd considering I'm only going to build a few (or one) of these things a lit= tle overkill is cheap insurance. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Rhodes To: triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer I built my own voltage stabilizer. At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of a= crude shunt regulator. I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator. Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic regul= ators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other compone= nts around it. As I recall,=C2=A0 These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs be= nt over 90 degrees and no heat sinking. Not ideal All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output s= ide of the regulator. My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use since probably abo= ut 2004 with no problems in a TR4A I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are interest= ed. -Tony >=20 > On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700 > From: William Brewer > To: Triumph List > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer > Message-ID: <4b9c278c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed" >=20 > ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage=20 > stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the= =20 > 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage=20 > stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal=20 > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw the vintage= =20 > style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that=20 > has a long life? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e sey@cs.com ------=_Part_6103411_2125703360.1654138242121 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And the 1N4004 diode provides reverse polarity prote= ction in case someone (certainly not any of us!) connects the battery wrong= way round.

In my line of work making stuff goof-proof pays off i= n the long run.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net; billbrewer59@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

Excellent circuit protection!

In automotive applications I don=E2=80=99t think there is TOO much pro= tection.   

So far the LM2940=E2=80=99s own protection has been sufficient.  = But the car does not do very many miles each year.  So it may simply b= e too soon to know 

-Tony


On Jun 1, 202= 2, at 4:18 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I go way beyond that.  First I use a 1N4004 to = protect against negative-going spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), = then I place a 15V Zener or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which c= an be as high as 120V).  Depending on the application I also include a= low value resistor or polyfuse to limit the current the TVS needs to sink.=   Then there is the input filter as you pointed out.

This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability= to test for optimum and considering I'm only going to build a few (or one)= of these things a little overkill is cheap insurance.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

I built my own voltage stabilizer.

At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transist= or as a form of a crude shunt regulator.

I used a LM2940=E2=80=9310 automotive low dropout 10 V ana= log regulator.

Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer= electronic regulators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with= no other components around it.

As I recall,  These used a through hole TO 220 device= with the legs bent over 90 degrees and no heat sinking.

Not ideal

All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the = input in output side of the regulator.

My regulator with the LM 2940=E2=80=9310 has been in use s= ince probably about 2004 with no problems in a TR4A

I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if = they are interested.

-Tony

>
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, tri= umphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700
> From: William Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format= =3D"flowed"
>
> ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Mo= ss gauge voltage
> stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the q= uit outputting the
> 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on thei= r voltage
> stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss ma= kes a big deal
> about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing"= . Screw the vintage
> style housing, I want dependability. Is there an afte= rmarket one that
> has a long life?



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=C2=A0 Actually looks like a fun project. =C2=A0 = From: Triumphs On Behalf OfSujit Roy Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM To: Triumphs ; TTSCC@googlegroups.com Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA =C2=A0 https://dayton.craigslis= t.org/cto/d/dayton-triumph-classic-car/7484751559.html =C2=A0 -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California=20 https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e sey@cs.com ------=_Part_199764_347938033.1654138826682 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
And it looks like its all there.  It's got all the glass and that is important.  If only I had the room.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA

Easy restoration; no rust!
 
Actually looks like a fun project.
 
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; TTSCC@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA
 
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Care to share a schematic? Cliff Sent from Mail for Window= s Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer I go way beyond that. First I use a 1N4004 to protect against negative-goi= ng spikes (which car be as high as -80 volts), then I place a 15V Zener or = TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can be as high as 120V). Dep= ending on the application I also include a low value resistor or polyfuse t= o limit the current the TVS needs to sink. Then there is the input filter = as you pointed out. This may be a bit of overkill but without the ability to test for optimum a= nd considering I'm only going to build a few (or one) of these things a lit= tle overkill is cheap insurance. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Rhodes To: triumphs@autox.team.net Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer I built my own voltage stabilizer. At the time, Moss had one that used a diode and a transistor as a form of a= crude shunt regulator. I used a LM2940=9610 automotive low dropout 10 V analog regulator. Sense and I have seen photographs of the guts of the newer electronic regul= ators. It appears they use a single voltage regulator with no other compone= nts around it. As I recall, These used a through hole TO 220 device with the legs bent ov= er 90 degrees and no heat sinking. Not ideal All these analog regulators need proper capacitors on the input in output s= ide of the regulator. My regulator with the LM 2940=9610 has been in use since probably about 200= 4 with no problems in a TR4A I can give further details, schematics, etc. to people if they are interest= ed. -Tony > hs-request@autox.team.net> wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -0700 m>> > > Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer 8c-ffbf-4d70-5f30-9e75ceb2468c@yahoo.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed" > > ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage > stabilizer only lasted a few thousand miles and the quit outputting the > 10 volts. Anybody else having short lifespans on their voltage > stabilizers? Are there better ones out there? Moss makes a big deal > about "Modern electronics in a vintage style housing". Screw the vintage > style housing, I want dependability. Is there an aftermarket one that > has a long life? Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive sey@cs.com --_000_SJ0PR14MB46130AB8923D1C8E0F05B020FADE9SJ0PR14MB4613namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Now I want to build one to have on hand as a spare.<= /p>

 

Care to share a schematic?

 

Cliff

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 2:19 PM
To: spamiam@comcast.net; = triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com=
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

 

I go way beyond that.  First I use a= 1N4004 to protect against negative-going spikes (which car be as high as -= 80 volts), then I place a 15V Zener or TVS to clamp any positive-going pulses (which can be as high as 120V).  Depending = on the application I also include a low value resistor or polyfuse to limit= the current the TVS needs to sink.  Then there is the input filter as= you pointed out.

 

This may be a bit of overkill but without= the ability to test for optimum and considering I'm only going to build a = few (or one) of these things a little overkill is cheap insurance.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Cc: billbrewer59@yahoo.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabilizer

I built my own voltage stabilizer.

 

At the time, Moss had one that used a dio= de and a transistor as a form of a crude shunt regulator.=

 

I used a LM2940=9610 automotive low dropo= ut 10 V analog regulator.

 

Sense and I have seen photographs of the = guts of the newer electronic regulators. It appears they use a single volta= ge regulator with no other components around it.

 

As I recall,  These used a through h= ole TO 220 device with the legs bent over 90 degrees and no heat sinking.

 

Not ideal

 

All these analog regulators need proper c= apacitors on the input in output side of the regulator.

 

My regulator with the LM 2940=9610 has be= en in use since probably about 2004 with no problems in a TR4A

 

I can give further details, schematics, e= tc. to people if they are interested.

 

-Tony

 

>

> On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:01 PM, triumphs-request@autox.t= eam.net wrote:

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:12:36 -070= 0

> From: William Brewer <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>

> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>

> Subject: [TR] TR4/6 Voltage Stabiliz= er

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D= "utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"

>

> ???? I have a TR4 temperature gauge = in my TR3. The Moss gauge voltage

> stabilizer only lasted a few thousan= d miles and the quit outputting the

> 10 volts. Anybody else having short = lifespans on their voltage

> stabilizers? Are there better ones o= ut there? Moss makes a big deal

> about "Modern electronics in a = vintage style housing". Screw the vintage

> style housing, I want dependability.= Is there an aftermarket one that

> has a long life?

 

 

 

Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@cs.com<= /o:p>

 

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There=92s probably an easier way. Cliff Sent from Mail for Window= s Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:21 PM Subject: [TR] TR3/4 Rear Wheel Studs The rear studs are screwed in the face of the hub and peened over on the ba= ckside. I imagine that the factory used some big tool to do this=97it looks= more like a rivet. I=92m not sure what kind of trouble that will cause wit= h the ez-out. Of course pulling the hub off is going from bad to worse. Allen ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e nsen@outlook.com --_000_SJ0PR14MB46132C510BD0D1902E03CE8FFADE9SJ0PR14MB4613namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Since the threads go through the hub, maybe the brok= en stud could be turned out through the back: drill a pilot in the broken s= tud, thread the pilot for a small right-hand screw, use heat, penetrant, an= d the small screw to turn the broken stud. There=92s probably an easier way.

 

Cliff

 

 

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From: Allen Hess
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:21 PM
To: triumphs list
Subject: [TR] TR3/4 Rear Wheel Studs

 

The rear studs are screwed in the face of the hub an= d peened over on the backside. I imagine that the factory used some big too= l to do this=97it looks more like a rivet. I=92m not sure what kind of trou= ble that will cause with the ez-out. Of course pulling the hub off is going from bad to worse.
Allen
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I have a 69 Tr6 and it has the beading between the fender= and rear coping.=C2=A0

This o= ne seems to have it as well. Was that just a 1969 thing?

Thanks
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Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:58:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:58:34 +0000 (UTC) From: DAVID MASSEY To: "ccsimonsen@gmail.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <009a01d87603$974cc580$c5e65080$@charter.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR^ for sale Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4178141668663170224== boundary="----=_Part_7160613_60020407.1654347514995" ------=_Part_7160613_60020407.1654347514995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember reading that once.=C2=A0 It was a carry-over from the TR4/5/250= but was done only that first year.=C2=A0 Just like the body-color windshie= ld frame.=C2=A0 These were probably cost-cutting measures in subsequent yea= rs. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Simo To: Triumphs Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2022 6:09 pm Subject: Re: [TR] TR^ for sale I have a 69 Tr6 and it has the beading between the fender and rear coping.= =C2=A0 This one seems to have it as well. Was that just a 1969 thing? Thanks** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e sey@cs.com ------=_Part_7160613_60020407.1654347514995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I remember reading that once.  It was a carry-over from the TR4/5/250 but was done only that first year.  Just like the body-color windshield frame.  These were probably cost-cutting measures in subsequent years.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Simo <ccsimonsen@gmail.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2022 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR^ for sale

I have a 69 Tr6 and it has the beading between the fender and rear coping. 

This one seems to have it as well. Was that just a 1969 thing?

Thanks
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Mace" To: "dave@ranteer.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" References: <65193480391c4448bfdcbf5d1987cfe5@ranteer.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9027323008388761253== boundary="----=_Part_7416583_1249266134.1654436104754" ------=_Part_7416583_1249266134.1654436104754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be plen= ty of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :( =20 --Andy=20 Andrew Mace ZoboHerald@aol.com *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph H= erald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Regi= ster: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Heral= d Database: http://triumph-herald.us=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: dave northrup To: Triumphs Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:10 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA Eas= y restoration; no rust! =C2=A0 Actually looks like a fun project. =C2=A0 = From: Triumphs On Behalf OfSujit Roy Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM To: Triumphs ; TTSCC@googlegroups.com Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA =C2=A0 https://dayton.craigslis= t.org/cto/d/dayton-triumph-classic-car/7484751559.html =C2=A0 -- Sujit Roy Cupertino, California=20 https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ ------=_Part_7416583_1249266134.1654436104754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be plenty of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :(

--Andy
Andrew Mace
ZoboHerald@aol.com

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us


-----Original Message-----
From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA

Easy restoration; no rust!
 
Actually looks like a fun project.
 
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Sujit Roy
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; TTSCC@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA
 
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Triumphs Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1028696349072394722== --0000000000004c06b705e0ba95d3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great. I know someone on the west coast in my club who has one. His is left hand drive On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 12:47 PM Stephen Oertwig wrote: > > > Thanks, Sujit, for tipping me off to this 2000. I will add another to my > collection. Jim and I came to agreement on price, and I will pick it up > this month. My search for a 2000 estate will be delayed now. > > I have two friends who are looking for 2000s. If anyone hears of cars ou= t > there, let us know. > > Andy, you may be correct. I=E2=80=99m sure it has some of the rust as in= stalled > at the factory. It appears to be a complete car, and a manual to boot. > The two Mk 1s I have are missing the rear window, so this is worth just > having all the glass to take three and make one good 2000. > > If any of you are in Missouri, you can stop by and touch them. > > This 2000 is our 42nd wedding anniversary. I just haven=E2=80=99t told m= y wife > yet. It will be a =E2=80=9Csurprise.=E2=80=9D > > Steve O > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Triumph 2000 for sale in USA (Andrew S. Mace) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: "Andrew S. Mace" > To: "dave@ranteer.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" > > Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA > Message-ID: <1740172617.7416584.1654436104756@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be > plenty of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :( > > --Andy > Andrew Mace > ZoboHerald@aol.com > > *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? > *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph > Herald engine with wings. > -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) > > Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph > Register: http://www.vtr.org > > Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph > Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: dave northrup > To: Triumphs > Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:10 pm > Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA > > Easy restoration; no rust! ? Actually > looks like a fun project. ? From: Triumphs < > triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf OfSujit Roy > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM > To: Triumphs ; TTSCC@googlegroups.com > Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA ? > https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/dayton-triumph-classic-car/7484751559= .html > ? -- Sujit Roy > Cupertino, California > https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20220605/bbfe757c/at= tachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > > Triumphs mailing list > Triumphs@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 85 > **************************************** > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphstag@gmail.com > --0000000000004c06b705e0ba95d3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great. I know someone on the west coast in my club who ha= s one. His is left hand drive

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Thanks, Sujit, for tipping me off to this 2000.=C2=A0 I will add another to= my collection.=C2=A0 Jim and I came to agreement on price, and I will pick= it up this month.=C2=A0 My search for a 2000 estate will be delayed now.
I have two friends who are looking for 2000s.=C2=A0 If anyone hears of cars= out there, let us know.=C2=A0

Andy, you may be correct.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m sure it has some of the rust as= installed at the factory.=C2=A0 It appears to be a complete car, and a man= ual to boot.=C2=A0 The two Mk 1s I have are missing the rear window, so thi= s is worth just having all the glass to take three and make one good 2000.= =C2=A0

If any of you are in Missouri, you can stop by and touch them.

This 2000 is our 42nd wedding anniversary.=C2=A0 I just haven=E2=80=99t tol= d my wife yet.=C2=A0 It will be a =E2=80=9Csurprise.=E2=80=9D

Steve O


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From: "Andrew S. Mace" <zoboherald@aol.com>
To: "dave@ranteer.com" <dave@ranteer.com>,=C2=A0 "= triumphs@autox.team.net"
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I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be p= lenty of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :(

--Andy
Andrew Mace
= ZoboHerald@aol.com

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, T= riumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Regi= ster: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Heral= d Database: http://triumph-herald.us

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This 2000 is our 42nd wedding anniversary.=C2=A0 I just haven?t told my wif= e yet.=C2=A0 It will be a ?surprise.? Steve O Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Re: Triumph 2000 for sale in USA (Andrew S. Mace) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) From: "Andrew S. Mace" To: "dave@ranteer.com" ,=C2=A0 "triumphs@autox.team.net" =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be plent= y of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :( --Andy=20 Andrew Mace ZoboHerald@aol.com *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph H= erald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Regi= ster: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Heral= d Database: http://triumph-herald.us=20 -----Original Message----- From: dave northrup To: Triumphs Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:10 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA Eas= y restoration; no rust!=C2=A0 ? Actually looks like a fun project.=C2=A0 ? = From: Triumphs On Behalf OfSujit Roy Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:26 AM To: Triumphs ; TTSCC@googlegroups.com Subject: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA=C2=A0 ? https://dayton.craigslis= t.org/cto/d/dayton-triumph-classic-car/7484751559.html ? --=C2=A0 Sujit Roy Cupertino, California=20 https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His is left hand drive On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 12:47 PM Stephen Oertwig wrote: > > > Thanks, Sujit, for tipping me off to this 2000.=C2=A0 I will add another = to my > collection.=C2=A0 Jim and I came to agreement on price, and I will pick i= t up > this month.=C2=A0 My search for a 2000 estate will be delayed now. > > I have two friends who are looking for 2000s.=C2=A0 If anyone hears of ca= rs out > there, let us know. > > Andy, you may be correct.=C2=A0 I?m sure it has some of the rust as insta= lled > at the factory.=C2=A0 It appears to be a complete car, and a manual to bo= ot. > The two Mk 1s I have are missing the rear window, so this is worth just > having all the glass to take three and make one good 2000. > > If any of you are in Missouri, you can stop by and touch them. > > This 2000 is our 42nd wedding anniversary.=C2=A0 I just haven?t told my w= ife > yet.=C2=A0 It will be a ?surprise.? > > Steve O > > > Today's Topics: > >=C2=A0 1. Re: Triumph 2000 for sale in USA (Andrew S. Mace) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: "Andrew S. Mace" > To: "dave@ranteer.com" ,=C2=A0 "triumphs@autox.team.net= " >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA > Message-ID: <1740172617.7416584.1654436104756@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks to be > plenty of it (much of it under failing Bondo)! :( > > --Andy > Andrew Mace > ZoboHerald@aol.com > > *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? > *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph > Herald engine with wings. > -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) > > Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph > Register: http://www.vtr.org > > Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph > Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: dave northrup > To: Triumphs > Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2022 1:10 pm > Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA > > Easy restoration; no rust!=C2=A0 ? Act= ually > looks like a fun project.=C2=A0 ? 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Thanks, Sujit, for tipping me off to this 2000.  I will add anothe= r to my collection.  Jim and I came to agreement on price, and I will = pick it up this month.  My search for a 2000 estate will be delayed no= w.

I have two friends = who are looking for 2000s.  If anyone hears of cars out there, let us = know. 

Andy, you= may be correct.  I?m sure it has some of the rust as installed at the= factory.  It appears to be a complete car, and a manual to boot. = ; The two Mk 1s I have are missing the rear window, so this is worth just h= aving all the glass to take three and make one good 2000. 
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Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph 2000 for sale in USA
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I'm sure you are corre= ct about the rust being free; there looks to be plenty of it (much of it un= der failing Bondo)! :(

--Andy
Andrew Mace
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*Man: Well, no = ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine wi= th wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Pyt= hon's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph R= egister: http://www.vtr.or= g

Check out the No= rth American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.u= s

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Great. I know someone on the west coast in my club who has one. = His is left
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>
> Th= anks, Sujit, for tipping me off to this 2000.  I will add another to m= y
> collection.  Jim and I came to agreem= ent on price, and I will pick it up
> this mon= th.  My search for a 2000 estate will be delayed now.
>
> I have two friends who are lo= oking for 2000s.  If anyone hears of cars out
> there, let us know.
>
> Andy, you may be correct.  I?m sure it has some of the r= ust as installed
> at the factory.  It ap= pears to be a complete car, and a manual to boot.
> The two Mk 1s I have are missing the rear window, so this is worth ju= st
> having all the glass to take three and ma= ke one good 2000.
>
= > If any of you are in Missouri, you can stop by and touch them.
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> This 2000 is our 42n= d wedding anniversary.  I just haven?t told my wife
> yet.  It will be a ?surprise.?
>
> Steve O
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> I'm sure you are correct about the rust being free; there looks t= o be
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> Andrew Mace
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> *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
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> Herald engine with wings.
> -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus= (22)
>
> Triumph= 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph
> Register: http://www.vtr.org
>
> Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and= Triumph
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> -----Original Message-= ----
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Interested in what others think. Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Carl Carlson Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 3:50 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Overdrive How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth? 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Asking is not getting, but for known good or rebuilt probably $1000 or more--maybe under a grand for club buddy price, but more commercial type transaction grand would probably be the low end. Greg Lemon TR250 On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 3:16 PM auprichard uprichard.net < auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote: > If you know it is in working order, I'd say you could get $1000 these > days. Interested in what others think. > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Carl Carlson > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 3:50 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Overdrive > > How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth? > > Carl > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com > --000000000000f14c2505e11dfcf3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Local guy has one on Craigslist, advertised as inoperativ= e transmission, overdrive unknown, wants $1100.=C2=A0 Asking is not getting= , but for known good or rebuilt probably $1000 or more--maybe under a grand= for club buddy price, but more commercial type transaction grand would pro= bably be the low end.

Greg Lem= on
TR250

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If you know it is in working order, I'd = say you could get $1000 these days.=C2=A0 Interested in what others think.<= br>
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

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Subject: [TR] Overdrive

How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth?

Carl
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --===============7076102013930774953==-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 10 15:24:23 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1290A10D8 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:24:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from S15-GW103.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79B1A0728 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay301.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by S15-GW103.mycloudmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LKYpS75Ydz2Sp8K for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 17:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 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Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I think the others are way low. I think its closer to $2k -----Original Message----- From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Carl Carlson Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 2:50 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Overdrive How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth? Carl ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 10 15:51:58 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28103A101E for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:51:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-c1p-024063.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.102.19.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7F1A0F51 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-c1p-023413.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.18.230]) by resqmta-c1p-024063.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id zm6jnZtxdGiqUzmXmn6YYc; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 21:51:50 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1654897910; bh=kQ8JpmVQotg7y50b7k1etrwinP5Tnm8qTVtukRkFEJY=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=hyjs93Jpw16DXw29lSWh1KmkOJKTa80ryrmluCEWCdIhqa9OTAyVgF5qfCut2BYOM ddrqvhm/I+LsLHr3D8sjw3R0fHe8CV8/uPy7YT4nD+eQHh5yvLtPras5PrM+tFGY1Z 4nKuWREjOwDV++5nIlMCCYEZIp7VlHB+BVM+2P+0dY/RIXS/NUcgsKuLT4k0PBuhsI S85IXqIw5zHUY2xCJJ6eF/6+vvnhN5mTPsAvYTcaxKMa/42cFlsa4iJTyAG07wr0U5 OR4NRm6HERVkqm3Bbm5P7w+cI1VB0/n+mDEHXBhv/GXpIF5sYkACMl1jqefE/+CkrR JPaD3JShekVwQ== Received: from smtpclient.apple ([IPv6:2601:285:1:db50:b9e6:a5cc:9a6:6511]) by resomta-c1p-023413.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id zmXPnGJPWmjhXzmXPnDNlF; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 21:51:28 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:51:26 -0600 References: To: "auprichard uprichard.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive Cc: Triumphs Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4049494843465228824== boundary="Apple-Mail=_0581F42F-585D-486A-990D-332A82E5258E" --Apple-Mail=_0581F42F-585D-486A-990D-332A82E5258E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I sold an A type recently for $1200. It only had 46K miles on it, I have = the odometer from the car it came from when the car was wrecked and knew = the car=E2=80=99s history also. Bud=20 Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:59 PM, auprichard uprichard.net = wrote: >=20 > I have not been in this game all that long =E2=80=93 restored my first = TR in 2004 =E2=80=93 but I remember buying overdrive units for less than = $300. But those were the days when gas was =E2=80=93 what? - $1.60 a = gallon ? > =20 > Oh no, =E2=80=9CI remember when=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 I am = becoming an old man. The next thing you know someone will say I am = grumpy ! >=20 > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > =20 > From: Greg Lemon =20 > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 4:43 PM > To: auprichard uprichard.net > Cc: Triumphs > Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive > =20 > Local guy has one on Craigslist, advertised as inoperative = transmission, overdrive unknown, wants $1100. Asking is not getting, = but for known good or rebuilt probably $1000 or more--maybe under a = grand for club buddy price, but more commercial type transaction grand = would probably be the low end. > =20 > Greg Lemon > TR250 > =20 > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 3:16 PM auprichard uprichard.net = If you know it is in working order, I'd say you could get $1000 these = days. Interested in what others think. >=20 > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 3:50 PM > Subject: [TR] Overdrive >=20 > How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth? >=20 > Carl >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs = http://www.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net = >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs = http://www.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com = ** = triumphs@autox.team.net ** >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs = >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net --Apple-Mail=_0581F42F-585D-486A-990D-332A82E5258E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I = sold an A type recently for $1200. It only had 46K miles on it, I have = the odometer from the car it came from when the car was wrecked and knew = the car=E2=80=99s history also.

Bud 

Extreme Parts Racing (more = than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 = (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph = Pit Bike)

On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:59 PM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:

I have not been in this game all that long =E2=80=93 restored = my first TR in 2004 =E2=80=93 but I remember buying overdrive units for = less than $300. But those were the days when gas was =E2=80=93 what? - $1.60 a gallon ?

 

Oh no, =E2=80=9CI remember when=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 = I am becoming an old man.  The next thing you know someone will say = I am grumpy !

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: = Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 4:43 PM
To: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Overdrive

 

Local guy has one on Craigslist, = advertised as inoperative transmission, overdrive unknown, wants = $1100.  Asking is not getting, but for known good or rebuilt = probably $1000 or more--maybe under a grand for club buddy price, but = more commercial type transaction grand would probably be the low end.

 

Greg Lemon

TR250

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 3:16 PM = auprichard = uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:

If you know it is in working order, = I'd say you could get $1000 these days.  Interested in what others = think.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

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How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth?

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 5:52 PM Bud Rolofson wrote: > I sold an A type recently for $1200. It only had 46K miles on it, I have > the odometer from the car it came from when the car was wrecked and knew > the car=E2=80=99s history also. > > Bud > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:59 PM, auprichard uprichard.net < > auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote: > > I have not been in this game all that long =E2=80=93 restored my first TR= in 2004 > =E2=80=93 but I remember buying overdrive units for less than $300. But t= hose were > the days when gas was =E2=80=93 what? - $1.60 a gallon ? > > > > Oh no, =E2=80=9CI remember when=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 I am becomi= ng an old man. The next thing > you know someone will say I am grumpy ! > > Andrew Uprichard > > Jackson, Michigan > > > > *From:* Greg Lemon > *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2022 4:43 PM > *To:* auprichard uprichard.net > *Cc:* Triumphs > *Subject:* Re: [TR] Overdrive > > > > Local guy has one on Craigslist, advertised as inoperative transmission, > overdrive unknown, wants $1100. Asking is not getting, but for known goo= d > or rebuilt probably $1000 or more--maybe under a grand for club buddy > price, but more commercial type transaction grand would probably be the l= ow > end. > > > > Greg Lemon > > TR250 > > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 3:16 PM auprichard uprichard.net < > auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote: > > If you know it is in working order, I'd say you could get $1000 these > days. Interested in what others think. > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Carl Carlso= n > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 3:50 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Overdrive > > How much is a good useable type A overdrive transmission worth? > > Carl > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumph66@gmail.com > --000000000000549c0f05e120517f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Agree - the range is $1,000 to $2,500 depending on condit= ion & provenance.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 5:52 PM Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:
I sold an A type recently for $1200. It only had 46= K miles on it, I have the odometer from the car it came from when the car w= as wrecked and knew the car=E2=80=99s history also.

Bud=C2=A0

Extreme Parts Racing=C2=A0(more than just a haircut)
71TR6 CC57365 (Good=C2=A06)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race=C2=A0Car #3
69 S= pitfire MK III (back=C2=A0up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race= =C2=A0Support Vehicle=C2=A0
77 Z-50A Hardly=C2=A0Davidson Honda Mini-Tra= il Bike (Triumph Pit=C2=A0Bike)

On Jun 10, 2022, at 2:59 PM, aupric= hard = uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:

I have not been in this game all that long =E2= =80=93 restored my first TR in 2004 =E2=80=93 but I remember buying overdri= ve units for less than $300. But those were the days when gas was =E2=80=93 what? - $1.60 a gallon ?

<= u>=C2=A0

Oh no, =E2=80=9CI rem= ember when=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 I am becoming an old man.=C2=A0 Th= e next thing you know someone will say I am grumpy !

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, M= ichigan

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Local guy has one on Craigslist, advertised as = inoperative transmission, overdrive unknown, wants $1100.=C2=A0 Asking is n= ot getting, but for known good or rebuilt probably $1000 or more--maybe und= er a grand for club buddy price, but more commercial type transaction grand would probably be the low end.

=C2=A0

Greg Lemon

TR250

=C2=A0

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 3:16 PM auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:<= u>

= If you know it is in working order, I'd say you could get $1000 these d= ays.=C2=A0 Interested in what others think.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

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If anyone is interested in seeing it here is a link https://youtu.be/U8lXlrdk5L0 Edward Hamer Petaluma CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 12 14:04:09 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00B0A0BD5 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 14:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pj1-f53.google.com (unknown [209.85.216.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33509A04C3; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 14:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f53.google.com with SMTP id t3-20020a17090a510300b001ea87ef9a3dso4117902pjh.4; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 13:03:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nVdmNg+to1u6O7SiPZPWsTnTAkf+J2WB8xGaLgMRvc8=; b=E/TA/8jc67h+rxZbhANowtCCKoTg+CwQUtMg5lCwAR97QCN5LYZu5S+i1c3cEnO0tq iCbVmTiidts7hPlXMFopN2pumuXvf3bwH1ijB5f6L1Y+4nyz5PFXzJVK7MbQ7ejjERGN V6UBOAEFVuXEU4QCCfMKvqH49fRH4v66Zm21VCV7UbioFdNwluUWCFvMJUFpYhdRvckc 9Xv5DrGdpHFarO8FxVBzD4IsvSr2C4m+RuZx4gJfT6nWq05ecjpGHcKtRSEp7gOzcIGt /E7u1Zdj4iYAhtEETF+cQG05RcPK/aOEhBTnAJB4XdrYL/8V+Iim5ZT+lnlFUTwB4Q8d vHzw== d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nVdmNg+to1u6O7SiPZPWsTnTAkf+J2WB8xGaLgMRvc8=; b=6/m/GcK30ei24q6VuUzEVuJ0XXrjYQRGQ/zQ2H7FcrmioGPKvne18B0Am63DZ4rtKh +IyNSd8SOIRFOkdLSI/KPRATnkiHv0u1/5fy0e7ccW3WpYwr1dUUkjypg0XmNehRJvW1 5yQBw+ZUJKBA4R9CX+BgsQiL78LNJcIEOT+0j5coSFR+mWcBgYEi3CcztrqyxjPzNsVA DdJqzNfUEWdhJAjirBX3UGit/CtGoJR2LGX9jNirB/rQOX4nWR841P2zps8YWXwTlFdi c4SfOSPxw8xx7oO7Zfn7HPMH3ENnSIe7fQJ0S6jlufF9znFEf7rO52mbtF0qy8YwPx2Q Zf+A== NJNnkmaf3o1CsM7qEcI2MUPgo9T1InEdw8FGTo/m/MmT me2-20020a17090b17c200b001e82e1ec1a3mr11907370pjb.221.1655064206914; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C. Hassall" Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 16:03:18 -0400 To: "" , Friends of Triumph Subject: [TR] A-type OD for sale on Triumph Experience Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6046120890213464646== --00000000000022381a05e145aa0c Folks, The recent discussion about overdrives prompted me to get off bottom dead center. I have an A-type OD, professionally rebuilt and "pepped up" (increased engagement pressure), which I planned to install in my TR4 for autoxing. Two knee replacements have scrapped those plans, so the OD is of no use to me. I'd really like to see this go to someone who wants to get the most out of their TR4 or TR5. This won't fit TR3s unless a fully synchro gearbox has been fitted. Please have a look at this link -- jim W4BEA The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained is totally the way to go! ;-) J. Stoll --00000000000022381a05e145aa0c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,=C2=A0

The recent discussion abou= t overdrives prompted me to get off bottom dead center.=C2=A0 I have an A-t= ype OD, professionally rebuilt and "pepped up" (increased engagem= ent pressure), which I planned to install in my TR4 for autoxing.=C2=A0 Two= knee replacements have scrapped those plans, so the OD is of no use to me.= =C2=A0=C2=A0

I'd really like to see this go to= someone who wants to get the most out of their TR4 or TR5.=C2=A0 This won&= #39;t fit TR3s unless a fully synchro gearbox has been fitted.=C2=A0=C2=A0<= /div>

Please have a look at=C2=A0this link=C2=A0

= --
jim=C2=A0 W4BEA<= /span>

The democracy will cease = to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to = those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

I sometimes = feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entertained = is totally the way to go! ;-)
J. Stoll

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--00000000000022381a05e145aa0c-- --===============6046120890213464646== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --===============6046120890213464646==-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 16 09:38:37 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB40A0A23 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cmx-mtlrgo001.bell.net (unknown [209.71.208.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0407A0610 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:38:06 -0600 (MDT) 1CDBgwX0a8KaBJCX1puIEKCXlp1CLHezEBYw3iz+Dv84pAxWu5AnEYr7IM3auxCX53733megwMaiIkBFJvt8gH88KNPV9hAQYGg= a=T4AAgoxUuFcUjEWLW4X1hA==:117 a=T4AAgoxUuFcUjEWLW4X1hA==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=FBHGMhGWAAAA:8 a=WclioxZl9twUcwLUKDAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=m3FJ5IfSRNw4RJg_YBMA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=9gvnlMMaQFpL9xblJ6ne:22 Received: from KeithsSurfacePro6 (70.50.137.206) by cmx-mtlrgo001.bell.net (5.8.807) (authenticated as keithstewart@bell.net) id 629E2A8B017CA08B for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 11:38:05 -0400 From: To: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 11:38:04 -0400 Thread-Index: AdiBlZkj+iwcxjmFQ++QDVFT5uXEog== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============3728377389057879460== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_11D14_01D88175.8B2D7B00" Content-Language: en-ca This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_11D14_01D88175.8B2D7B00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions? Keith Stewart keithstewart@bell.net ------=_NextPart_000_11D14_01D88175.8B2D7B00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line = electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. = In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven = times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. = I really have no idea where to look next. Any = suggestions?

 

Keith = Stewart

keithstewart@bell.net

 

------=_NextPart_000_11D14_01D88175.8B2D7B00-- --===============3728377389057879460== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --===============3728377389057879460==-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 16 11:02:39 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF74A0DF3 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 11:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omta004.useast.a.cloudfilter.net (unknown [34.195.253.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3999AA04B7 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 11:02:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mcc-obgw-6002a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.244.128.101]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 1noaoEasVDuwj1st5oeV7G; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:02:31 +0000 Received: from njtozcsv05.mcomdc.com ([10.0.20.24]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 1st4o23NewloV1st4oE8cI; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:02:30 +0000 a=FBMzrIrqT2VvHv8iZwVpfw==:117 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=bxvj8ODU9TEA:10 a=9F_NZEph3JwA:10 a=FBHGMhGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Hd4JvI9PAAAA:8 a=xLivvfzIwqnZcWg8-TMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rsMCf8oCAAAA:8 a=KwkPo1qEtdsR3o-LLxgA:9 a=mwLt5pj8HOogOUxG:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=9gvnlMMaQFpL9xblJ6ne:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=Creq2IX5FHbyFuuTMD5z:22 a=b6NBTLGbX0iDCHBKZXRa:22 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com To: keithstewart@bell.net References: <11d1301d88197$123caa00$36b5fe00$@bell.net> Thread-Topic: Electric Fan Relay Thread-Index: AdiBlZkj+iwcxjmFQ++QDVFT5uXEohPmRG1U uBptDbwCyXh9erWOQZyptwEEZuzbF+NCJoCj3A3c4miELdRpz1YAUt8rOjgH3+VKaCq5MXf7/f3M2Abo2wCmQsbb5xhuoRC+7KYR/Hxn6rl6Lwmia6hcjfUL Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7612858548770640848== boundary="=_5ab10c9a-981e-483e-8369-8db2644f8b67" --=_5ab10c9a-981e-483e-8369-8db2644f8b67 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keith, I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized. When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and dissipate. Connect to relay negative connection. Connect to the relay positive terminal. Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids. Ronald Olds From: keithstewart@bell.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions? Keith Stewart keithstewart@bell.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --=_5ab10c9a-981e-483e-8369-8db2644f8b67 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diod= e across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect th= e cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the = end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will h= ave no effect when the relay is energized.  When a relay is denergized= it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this = spark to travel through the diode and  dissipate.
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    =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        Connect to relay negative con= nection.           &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    Connect to the relay positive terminal.

Diodes should be a= cross the terminals of all relays and solenoids.

Ronald Olds

From: keithstewa= rt@bell.net
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday,= June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

I have a 62 TR4 wit= h Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NA= PA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or= seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in ord= er. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions?



Keith Stewart

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Thanks Ron. I assume this would be = on the relay 30 and 85 contacts. Is that = correct?

 

Keith

 

From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com = <ronald.olds@mchsi.com>
Sent: June 16, 2022 1:03 = PM
To: keithstewart@bell.net
Cc: = triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan = Relay

 

Keith,

I would recommend connecting a = 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay = coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and = the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative = terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized.  = When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the = points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode = and  dissipate.

        = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;  

        = ;            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;     Connect to relay negative = connection.          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;     Connect to the relay positive = terminal.

 

Diodes should be across the terminals of all = relays and solenoids.

 

Ronald Olds

 

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Subject: [TR] = Electric Fan Relay

 

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, = Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 = or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The = wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really = have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions?



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=C2=A0Ron,
= I believe the diode should be installed the other way. The way you have des= cribed it, it will conduct positive straight to ground.
Jim

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From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com
To: keithstewart@bell.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay
Message-ID:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <8062= 36043.1685117.1655398950108.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com>

Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the grou= nd terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the= positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om= it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is e= nergized. When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn th= e points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and d= issipate.
Connect to relay negative connection. Connect to the relay positive termina= l.

Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids.

Ronald Olds


From: keithstewart@bell.net
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp = fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replac= ed the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward a= nd all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any sugges= tions?

Keith Stewart

keithstewart@bell.net
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Connecting a diode across the coil will do noting for the contacts burning = up.=C2=A0 It will protect the temp switch, however.=C2=A0 Placing the diode= across the contacts will quench the arc there.=C2=A0=20 Another possibility, one that I use regularly, a varistor designed for just= such an application.=C2=A0 Something like this: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D220KTR/2407603 This part is not polarity sensitive and will limit the voltage across the c= ontacts to a point where no spark will be generated. =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com To: keithstewart@bell.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay Keith, I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the grou= nd terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the= positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om= it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is e= nergized.=C2=A0 When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can b= urn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode= and=C2=A0 dissipate. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Connect to relay neg= ative connection.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Connect to the relay positive terminal. Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids. Ronald Olds From: keithstewart@bell.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp = fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replac= ed the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward a= nd all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any sugges= tions?=20 =20 Keith Stewart=20 keithstewart@bell.net=20 ------=_Part_1074544_1876691999.1655411849547 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
One moment, please, it is the cathode end that has the stripe.  Connect that to the positive terminal.

Connecting a diode across the coil will do noting for the contacts burning up.  It will protect the temp switch, however.  Placing the diode across the contacts will quench the arc there. 

Another possibility, one that I use regularly, a varistor designed for just such an application.  Something like this:

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D220KTR/2407603

This part is not polarity sensitive and will limit the voltage across the contacts to a point where no spark will be generated.



Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com
To: keithstewart@bell.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized.  When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and  dissipate.
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                                                  Connect to relay negative connection.                            Connect to the relay positive terminal.

Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids.

Ronald Olds

From: keithstewart@bell.net
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions?



Keith Stewart

keithstewart@bell.net


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Many (but no all) DVM's have a diode check function.=C2=A0 You can verify t= he direction with that.=C2=A0 Your red lead will be positive.=C2=A0=20 =20 Dave=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 3:24 pm Subject: [TR] Electric Fan relay =C2=A0Ron,I believe the diode should be installed the other way. The way yo= u have described it, it will conduct positive straight to ground.Jim ------------------------------ From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com To: keithstewart@bell.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay Message-ID: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <806236043.1685117.1655398950108.JavaMail.zimbr= a@mchsi.com> Keith,=20 I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the grou= nd terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the= positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om= it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is e= nergized. When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn th= e points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and d= issipate.=20 Connect to relay negative connection. Connect to the relay positive termina= l.=20 Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids.=20 Ronald Olds=20 From: keithstewart@bell.net=20 To: triumphs@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM=20 Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay=20 I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp = fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replac= ed the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward a= nd all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any sugges= tions? Keith Stewart=20 keithstewart@bell.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archiv= e sey@cs.com ------=_Part_4847744_1581367100.1655412661990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes.  He was correct on everything up until he called out the stripped end as the anode.

Many (but no all) DVM's have a diode check function.  You can verify the direction with that.  Your red lead will be positive. 

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Wallace <grandfatherjim@gmail.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 3:24 pm
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan relay

 Ron,
I believe the diode should be installed the other way. The way you have described it, it will conduct positive straight to ground.
Jim

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From: ronald.olds@mchsi.com
To: keithstewart@bell.net
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay
Message-ID:
        <806236043.1685117.1655398950108.JavaMail.zimbra@mchsi.com>

Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized. When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and dissipate.
Connect to relay negative connection. Connect to the relay positive terminal.

Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids.

Ronald Olds


From: keithstewart@bell.net
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions?

Keith Stewart

keithstewart@bell.net
** triumphs@autox.team.net **

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Available at parts stores. Similar to the Granger https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Automotive-Relay-12V-DC-5ZMT9 for instance. 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