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I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what
is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that joins
the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does
anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems the
bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you
might provide.

 

Keith

 

Keith Stewart

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have a pair of TR4A leather =
kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what is used on the TR6. Since =
the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not have the hardware. Does =
anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that joins the two pads, =
crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does anyone have a =
bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems the bracket =
is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you might =
provide.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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TRF Green Book page 70, Part# ZKC401, Cross Tie Speaker Panels on sale at $=
9.95

They also have the additional bits and pieces.

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: keithstewart@bell.net
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 2:58 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to wha=
t is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not =
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that join=
s the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does =
anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems th=
e bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you =
might provide.

Keith

Keith Stewart
keithstewart@bell.net



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reen Book page 70, Part# ZKC401, Cross Tie Speaker Panels on sale at $9.95<=
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 have the additional bits and pieces.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Cov=
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/b><a href=3D"mailto:keithstewart@bell.net">keithstewart@bell.net</a><br><b=
>Sent: </b>Friday, January 6, 2023 2:58 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:=
triumphs@autox.team.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR=
] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>I have a pair of TR4A leat=
her kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what is used on the TR6. Sinc=
e the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not have the hardware. Does an=
yone have the dimensions of the bracket that joins the two pads, crossing o=
ver the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does anyone have a bracket with=
 which they would be willing to part? It seems the bracket is no longer ava=
ilable. Thanks in advance for any assistance you might provide.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
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To: "'Bob Danielson'" <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>,
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Thanks Bob. When I looked earlier, no one listed them.

=20

Cheers

Keith

=20

From: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>=20
Sent: January 6, 2023 3:20 PM
To: keithstewart@bell.net; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

=20

TRF Green Book page 70, Part# ZKC401, Cross Tie Speaker Panels on sale =
at $9.95

=20

They also have the additional bits and pieces.

=20

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

=20

Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 2:58 PM
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

=20

I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to =
what is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I =
do not have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket =
that joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, =
better yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing =
to part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance =
for any assistance you might provide.

=20

Keith

=20

Keith Stewart


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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Bob Danielson =
&lt;75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> January 6, 2023 =
3:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> keithstewart@bell.net; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad =
Speaker Bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>TRF Green Book page 70, Part# ZKC401, Cross Tie Speaker =
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lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and =
Fender Blankets<br><a =
href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm">http://tr6.da=
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</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US><a =
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used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not =
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that =
joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better =
yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to =
part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for =
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Keith:  since the bracket is so simple, have you thought of an L-shaped bra=
cket on each pad with multiple holes or a slot in each, such that you adjus=
t it to where you want to be and then tighten a bolt through them ?

I am not that familiar with the TR6, but one that I did have had exactly th=
at for the pads.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of keithstewart@=
bell.net
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 2:51 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to wha=
t is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not =
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that join=
s the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does =
anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems th=
e bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you =
might provide.

Keith

Keith Stewart


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
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</b>keithstewart@bell.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 6, 2023 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I have a pair of TR4A leather k=
idney pads for radio speakers similar to what is used on the TR6. Since the=
 kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not have the hardware. Does anyone =
have the dimensions of the bracket that
 joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, =
does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It see=
ms the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance=
 you might provide.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
To: "keithstewart@bell.net" <keithstewart@bell.net>, 
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 I bought mine from TRF.=C2=A0 Have you checked them out?
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Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2023 1:51 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket<br>
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<div class="yiv3987616798MsoNormal">I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you might provide.</div>

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I had checked suppliers earlier and no one seemed to have them but Bobby =
D. mentioned TRF earlier and they seem to have the hardware. Thanks for =
the info.

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Keith

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Sent: January 6, 2023 5:00 PM
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I bought mine from TRF.  Have you checked them out?

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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2023 1:51 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to =
what is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I =
do not have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket =
that joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, =
better yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing =
to part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance =
for any assistance you might provide.

=20

Keith

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PM<br><b>To:</b> keithstewart@bell.net; =
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what is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I =
do not have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket =
that joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, =
better yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing =
to part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance =
for any assistance you might provide.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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These pads are not for a TR6. Rimmers sells them for the 4/4A but they look
just like the ones that were in my wife's TR6 so that is what I planned to
use. Your suggestion in intriguing, I might just give it a try. Thanks.

 

Keith

 

From: auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> 
Sent: January 6, 2023 4:59 PM
To: keithstewart@bell.net; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

 

Keith:  since the bracket is so simple, have you thought of an L-shaped
bracket on each pad with multiple holes or a slot in each, such that you
adjust it to where you want to be and then tighten a bolt through them ?

 

I am not that familiar with the TR6, but one that I did have had exactly
that for the pads.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

 

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 2:51 PM
Subject: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker Bracket

 

I have a pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what
is used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that joins
the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better yet, does
anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to part? It seems the
bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for any assistance you
might provide.

 

Keith

 

Keith Stewart


 


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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>These pads are not for a TR6. =
Rimmers sells them for the 4/4A but they look just like the ones that =
were in my wife&#8217;s TR6 so that is what I planned to use. Your =
suggestion in intriguing, I might just give it a try. =
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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uprichard.net &lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> January =
6, 2023 4:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> keithstewart@bell.net; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad =
Speaker Bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Keith:&nbsp; since the bracket is so simple, =
have you thought of an L-shaped bracket on each pad with multiple holes =
or a slot in each, such that you adjust it to where you want to be and =
then tighten a bolt through them ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I am not that familiar with the TR6, but one =
that I did have had exactly that for the pads.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Jackson, Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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t:</b> Friday, January 6, 2023 2:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
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>Subject:</b> [TR] TR6 Kidney Pad Speaker =
Bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have a =
pair of TR4A leather kidney pads for radio speakers similar to what is =
used on the TR6. Since the kidney pads were not on the TR4A, I do not =
have the hardware. Does anyone have the dimensions of the bracket that =
joins the two pads, crossing over the transmission cover? Or, better =
yet, does anyone have a bracket with which they would be willing to =
part? It seems the bracket is no longer available. Thanks in advance for =
any assistance you might provide.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:45:36 -0500
To: Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
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None of my Triumphs are on the road yet, but I do own several
high-dollar hotrods. On all those cars, I use a hidden toggle switch
that cuts off power to the coil and they also have a hidden GPS
tracker. I would not go to all the trouble and expense of installing a
sophisticated anti-theft system as you describe. If thieves really
want your car, it will be stolen no matter what you do. Keep you
insurance info handy and document, document, document. Best of luck.

-- 
Hoyt
** triumphs@autox.team.net **

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Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 18:40:41 -0800
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Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
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I=E2=80=99m restoring another vintage car which is german, not my TR3, =
and I was told about a very cool distributor by 123 Ignition, which is =
available for Triumphs and all kinds of cars.  =
https://123ignitionusa.com =
<https://123ignitionusa.com/123ignitions/triumph/>

I won=E2=80=99t go into all of it, you can go to their website, but via =
Blue Tooth and your phone, different timing advance curves and be set.  =
PLUS...as it pertains to this discussion with regards to anti-theft of =
the car, you can turn the distributor OFF.  How cool is that!? Turn it =
off and go into a restaurant, and the only way someone would be able to =
steal the car is with a tow truck!

So if you need to buy a new distributor anyway, or have a hot rod engine =
and you want to customize things, check it out.  Full disclosure, I=E2=80=99=
m about a week away from assembling the engine, so I haven=E2=80=99t use =
it yet, but a few mechanics have recommended it, and that=E2=80=99s =
where I heard you can turn off the distributor.  I don=E2=80=99t see =
that mentioned on their website, but I=E2=80=99m sure that=E2=80=99s =
something you can check with them as they have a =E2=80=9Ccontact us =
with questions=E2=80=9D right on their home page.

Rye

> On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Cochran, David L <COCHRAN@uthscsa.edu> =
wrote:
>=20
> Take the valuables inside the hotel/motel room with you and sleep =
well! Years ago I had a TR6 in front of my house and one weekend someone =
slashed the top one night. Terrible person or people. =20
>=20
>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net =
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF*EXTERNAL EMAIL*
>>=20
>>=20
>> Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My =
concern is more about preventing someone from stealing something out of =
the car when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally =
planning on just locking the doors but someone locally said that if the =
doors are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I =
could just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?
>> Dave
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFHi Dave,
>>>  It sounds like a great trip, being planned well in advance.
>>>   I think that one thing you might consider is that professional =
thieves often use flat bed tow trucks and simply pull the target cars up =
and are off in a matter of minutes, often without opening the doors.  In =
order to thwart them, as part of your alarm system use motion/vibration =
switches so that if the car is disturbed the alarm goes off.  Most of us =
protect our cars assuming that the theft will be having the car leave =
under its own power.
>>>  Best,
>>>  Bob
>>>=20
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> =
wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>> This summer I am planning on taking an extended trip out west in my =
TR4A. Has anyone installed a alarm system in a TR4A?
>>>> I am looking for suggestions on specific alarms. I think I would =
like to monitor the doors and maybe the hood. I would also like a motion =
sensor. Our route starts in Cincinnati heading first to Colorado =
Springs, Co. to drive up Pikes Peak with a bunch of local TriState =
Triumph people. Then my wife and I will head out by ourselves to visit =
Mt. Rushmore, then up to Yellowstone then east through the badlands and =
on to home. That=E2=80=99s a lot of motels to stop at and if I can=E2=80=99=
t park right in front of the entrance, I will not be sleeping very well.
>>>> I know I will have to add door switches and another one for the =
hood. I am planning on adding a courtesy light anyway so the door =
switches are already planned.
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>> Dave Connitt
>>>> DavesTR4A.com
>>>>=20
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=
=99m restoring another vintage car which is german, not my TR3, and I =
was told about a very cool distributor by 123 Ignition, which is =
available for Triumphs and all kinds of cars. &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://123ignitionusa.com/123ignitions/triumph/" =
class=3D"">https://123ignitionusa.com</a><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I won=E2=80=99t go into all of it, you =
can go to their website, but via Blue Tooth and your phone, different =
timing advance curves and be set. &nbsp;PLUS...as it pertains to this =
discussion with regards to anti-theft of the car, you can turn the =
distributor OFF. &nbsp;How cool is that!? Turn it off and go into a =
restaurant, and the only way someone would be able to steal the car is =
with a tow truck!<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So =
if you need to buy a new distributor anyway, or have a hot rod engine =
and you want to customize things, check it out. &nbsp;Full disclosure, =
I=E2=80=99m about a week away from assembling the engine, so I haven=E2=80=
=99t use it yet, but a few mechanics have recommended it, and that=E2=80=99=
s where I heard you can turn off the distributor. &nbsp;I don=E2=80=99t =
see that mentioned on their website, but I=E2=80=99m sure that=E2=80=99s =
something you can check with them as they have a =E2=80=9Ccontact us =
with questions=E2=80=9D right on their home page.</div><div class=3D""><br=
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan =
11, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Cochran, David L &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:COCHRAN@uthscsa.edu" class=3D"">COCHRAN@uthscsa.edu</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta=
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Take the valuables inside the hotel/motel room with you and =
sleep well! Years ago I had a TR6 in front of my house and one weekend =
someone slashed the top one night. Terrible person or people. =
&nbsp;</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">On =
Jan 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dave Connitt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net" class=3D"">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF*EXTERNAL EMAIL*<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks for all the great =
suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My concern is more about =
preventing someone from stealing something out of the car when while we =
are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally planning on just =
locking the doors but someone locally said that if the doors are locked =
the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I could just store =
the valuable things in the locked trunk?<br class=3D"">Dave<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 =
PM, Robert Rochlin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrochlin@comcast.net" =
class=3D"">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFHi Dave,<br class=3D"">&nbsp;It sounds like a great =
trip, being planned well in advance.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;I think =
that one thing you might consider is that professional thieves often use =
flat bed tow trucks and simply pull the target cars up and are off in a =
matter of minutes, often without opening the doors. &nbsp;In order to =
thwart them, as part of your alarm system use motion/vibration switches =
so that if the car is disturbed the alarm goes off. &nbsp;Most of us =
protect our cars assuming that the theft will be having the car leave =
under its own power.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;Best,<br class=3D"">&nbsp;Bob<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote=
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 class=3D"">Hello Everyone,<br class=3D"">This summer I am planning on =
taking an extended trip out west in my TR4A. Has anyone installed a =
alarm system in a TR4A?<br class=3D"">I am looking for suggestions on =
specific alarms. I think I would like to monitor the doors and maybe the =
hood. I would also like a motion sensor. Our route starts in Cincinnati =
heading first to Colorado Springs, Co. to drive up Pikes Peak with a =
bunch of local TriState Triumph people. Then my wife and I will head out =
by ourselves to visit Mt. Rushmore, then up to Yellowstone then east =
through the badlands and on to home. That=E2=80=99s a lot of motels to =
stop at and if I can=E2=80=99t park right in front of the entrance, I =
will not be sleeping very well.<br class=3D"">I know I will have to add =
door switches and another one for the hood. I am planning on adding a =
courtesy light anyway so the door switches are already planned.<br =
class=3D"">Thanks in advance!<br class=3D"">Dave Connitt<br class=3D""><a =
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   1. Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
      (Dave Connitt)
My alarm system in a '73 TR6 is now fairly ancient, but it does include a
sensor that would go off if someone got too close to the interior, e.g.
messing with the top or tonneau cover.  

Ron L

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From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:15:19 -0600
To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
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That is my approach as well, I do like to park my car as close to the
motel as possible in a well lit area.

Not too hard to unload it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 8:25 PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:

> I don't know about the rest of you, but I never lock the door on the TR6.
> I'd rather lose something in the car (I never leave anything valuable in
> there) than have the top slashed.
>
> I have traveled many miles and stayed in many small towns and some big
> ones.  I am unaware of anything ever being stolen.
>
> I think the real answer to your question, and it wouldn't matter what car
> you were in, is don't leave stuff in the car!  the good news is that you
> don't have to worry about your catalytic converter being stolen!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dave Connit=
t
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:34 PM
> To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
> Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
>
> Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My
> concern is more about preventing someone from stealing something out of t=
he
> car when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally
> planning on just locking the doors but someone locally said that if the
> doors are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I
> could just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BFHi Dave,
> >    It sounds like a great trip, being planned well in advance.
> >     I think that one thing you might consider is that professional
> thieves often use flat bed tow trucks and simply pull the target cars up
> and are off in a matter of minutes, often without opening the doors.  In
> order to thwart them, as part of your alarm system use motion/vibration
> switches so that if the car is disturbed the alarm goes off.  Most of us
> protect our cars assuming that the theft will be having the car leave und=
er
> its own power.
> >    Best,
> >    Bob
> >
> >> On Jan 11, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >> This summer I am planning on taking an extended trip out west in my
> TR4A. Has anyone installed a alarm system in a TR4A?
> >> I am looking for suggestions on specific alarms. I think I would like
> to monitor the doors and maybe the hood. I would also like a motion senso=
r.
> Our route starts in Cincinnati heading first to Colorado Springs, Co. to
> drive up Pikes Peak with a bunch of local TriState Triumph people. Then m=
y
> wife and I will head out by ourselves to visit Mt. Rushmore, then up to
> Yellowstone then east through the badlands and on to home. That=E2=80=99s=
 a lot of
> motels to stop at and if I can=E2=80=99t park right in front of the entra=
nce, I
> will not be sleeping very well.
> >> I know I will have to add door switches and another one for the hood. =
I
> am planning on adding a courtesy light anyway so the door switches are
> already planned.
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >> Dave Connitt
> >> DavesTR4A.com
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"auto">That is my approach as well, I do like to park my car as =
close to the motel=C2=A0as possible in a well lit area.<div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not too hard to unload it.</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 8:25 PM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rante=
er.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">I don&#39;t know about the rest of you, but I never lock the door on t=
he TR6.=C2=A0 I&#39;d rather lose something in the car (I never leave anyth=
ing valuable in there) than have the top slashed.<br>
<br>
I have traveled many miles and stayed in many small towns and some big ones=
.=C2=A0 I am unaware of anything ever being stolen.<br>
<br>
I think the real answer to your question, and it wouldn&#39;t matter what c=
ar you were in, is don&#39;t leave stuff in the car!=C2=A0 the good news is=
 that you don&#39;t have to worry about your catalytic converter being stol=
en!!!<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On =
Behalf Of Dave Connitt<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:34 PM<br>
To: Robert Rochlin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrochlin@comcast.net" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A<br>
<br>
Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My conce=
rn is more about preventing someone from stealing something out of the car =
when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally planning o=
n just locking the doors but someone locally said that if the doors are loc=
ked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I could just store =
the valuable things in the locked trunk?<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Robert Rochlin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rroc=
hlin@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">rrochlin@comcast.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFHi Dave,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It sounds like a great trip, being planned well in advanc=
e.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think that one thing you might consider is that p=
rofessional thieves often use flat bed tow trucks and simply pull the targe=
t cars up and are off in a matter of minutes, often without opening the doo=
rs.=C2=A0 In order to thwart them, as part of your alarm system use motion/=
vibration switches so that if the car is disturbed the alarm goes off.=C2=
=A0 Most of us protect our cars assuming that the theft will be having the =
car leave under its own power. <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Jan 11, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Dave Connitt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d=
connitt@fuse.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dconnitt@fuse.net</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Hello Everyone,<br>
&gt;&gt; This summer I am planning on taking an extended trip out west in m=
y TR4A. Has anyone installed a alarm system in a TR4A?<br>
&gt;&gt; I am looking for suggestions on specific alarms. I think I would l=
ike to monitor the doors and maybe the hood. I would also like a motion sen=
sor. Our route starts in Cincinnati heading first to Colorado Springs, Co. =
to drive up Pikes Peak with a bunch of local TriState Triumph people. Then =
my wife and I will head out by ourselves to visit Mt. Rushmore, then up to =
Yellowstone then east through the badlands and on to home. That=E2=80=99s a=
 lot of motels to stop at and if I can=E2=80=99t park right in front of the=
 entrance, I will not be sleeping very well.<br>
&gt;&gt; I know I will have to add door switches and another one for the ho=
od. I am planning on adding a courtesy light anyway so the door switches ar=
e already planned.<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance!<br>
&gt;&gt; Dave Connitt<br>
&gt;&gt; DavesTR4A.com<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
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you can purchase small ultrasonic alarms.... little box designed to 
sense spacial changes.
Leave the doors unlocked ( to protect your ragtop)   open a door and the 
alarm sounds.   Stand alone so the sound is LOUD inside the car, and any 
vibration will trigger your normal alarm.
Crimestopper makes good simple cheap alarms, two stage vibration 
sensors...  chirp chirp  or full alam triggered

ptegler

On 1/11/2023 10:15 PM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> That is my approach as well, I do like to park my car as close to the 
> motel as possible in a well lit area.
>
> Not too hard to unload it.
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 8:25 PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
>     I don't know about the rest of you, but I never lock the door on
>     the TR6. I'd rather lose something in the car (I never leave
>     anything valuable in there) than have the top slashed.
>
>     I have traveled many miles and stayed in many small towns and some
>     big ones  I am unaware of anything ever being stolen.
>
>     I think the real answer to your question, and it wouldn't matter
>     what car you were in, is don't leave stuff in the car! the good
>     news is that you don't have to worry about your catalytic
>     converter being stolen!!!
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dave
>     Connitt
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:34 PM
>     To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
>     Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
>     Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
>
>     Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A.
>     My concern is more about preventing someone from stealing
>     something out of the car when while we are parked somewhere on the
>     road. I was originally planning on just locking the doors but
>     someone locally said that if the doors are locked the thief would
>     just cut the top to get in. I guess I could just store the
>     valuable things in the locked trunk?
>     Dave
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     > On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Robert Rochlin
>     <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:
>     >
>     > ﻿Hi Dave,
>     >    It sounds like a great trip, being planned well in advance.
>     >     I think that one thing you might consider is that
>     professional thieves often use flat bed tow trucks and simply pull
>     the target cars up and are off in a matter of minutes, often
>     without opening the doors.  In order to thwart them, as part of
>     your alarm system use motion/vibration switches so that if the car
>     is disturbed the alarm goes off.  Most of us protect our cars
>     assuming that the theft will be having the car leave under its own
>     power.
>     >    Best,
>     >    Bob
>     >
>     >> On Jan 11, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Hello Everyone,
>     >> This summer I am planning on taking an extended trip out west
>     in my TR4A. Has anyone installed a alarm system in a TR4A?
>     >> I am looking for suggestions on specific alarms. I think I
>     would like to monitor the doors and maybe the hood. I would also
>     like a motion sensor. Our route starts in Cincinnati heading first
>     to Colorado Springs, Co. to drive up Pikes Peak with a bunch of
>     local TriState Triumph people. Then my wife and I will head out by
>     ourselves to visit Mt. Rushmore, then up to Yellowstone then east
>     through the badlands and on to home. That’s a lot of motels to
>     stop at and if I can’t park right in front of the entrance, I will
>     not be sleeping very well.
>     >> I know I will have to add door switches and another one for the
>     hood. I am planning on adding a courtesy light anyway so the door
>     switches are already planned.
>     >> Thanks in advance!
>     >> Dave Connitt
>     >> DavesTR4A.com
>     >>
>     >> Sent from my iPhone
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    <p>you can purchase small ultrasonic alarms.... little box designed
      to sense spacial changes.<br>
      Leave the doors unlocked ( to protect your ragtop)   open a door
      and the alarm sounds.   Stand alone so the sound is LOUD inside
      the car, and any vibration will trigger your normal alarm.<br>
      Crimestopper makes good simple cheap alarms, two stage vibration
      sensors...  chirp chirp  or full alam triggered</p>
    <p>ptegler <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/2023 10:15 PM, Greg Lemon
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      <div dir="auto">That is my approach as well, I do like to park my
        car as close to the motel as possible in a well lit area.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Not too hard to unload it.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Greg Lemon</div>
        <div dir="auto">TR250</div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 8:25 PM
          dave northrup &lt;<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't know
          about the rest of you, but I never lock the door on the TR6. 
          I'd rather lose something in the car (I never leave anything
          valuable in there) than have the top slashed.<br>
          <br>
          I have traveled many miles and stayed in many small towns and
          some big ones  I am unaware of anything ever being stolen.<br>
          <br>
          I think the real answer to your question, and it wouldn't
          matter what car you were in, is don't leave stuff in the car! 
          the good news is that you don't have to worry about your
          catalytic converter being stolen!!!<br>
          <br>
          -----Original Message-----<br>
          From: Triumphs &lt;<a
            href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          On Behalf Of Dave Connitt<br>
          Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:34 PM<br>
          To: Robert Rochlin &lt;<a href="mailto:rrochlin@comcast.net"
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br>
          Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"
            target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
          Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in
          my TR4A<br>
          <br>
          Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my
          TR4A. My concern is more about preventing someone from
          stealing something out of the car when while we are parked
          somewhere on the road. I was originally planning on just
          locking the doors but someone locally said that if the doors
          are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess
          I could just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?<br>
          Dave<br>
          <br>
          Sent from my iPhone<br>
          <br>
          &gt; On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Robert Rochlin &lt;<a
            href="mailto:rrochlin@comcast.net" target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; ﻿Hi Dave,<br>
          &gt;    It sounds like a great trip, being planned well in
          advance.<br>
          &gt;     I think that one thing you might consider is that
          professional thieves often use flat bed tow trucks and simply
          pull the target cars up and are off in a matter of minutes,
          often without opening the doors.  In order to thwart them, as
          part of your alarm system use motion/vibration switches so
          that if the car is disturbed the alarm goes off.  Most of us
          protect our cars assuming that the theft will be having the
          car leave under its own power. <br>
          &gt;    Best,<br>
          &gt;    Bob<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;&gt; On Jan 11, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Dave Connitt &lt;<a
            href="mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net" target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          &gt;&gt; <br>
          &gt;&gt; Hello Everyone,<br>
          &gt;&gt; This summer I am planning on taking an extended trip
          out west in my TR4A. Has anyone installed a alarm system in a
          TR4A?<br>
          &gt;&gt; I am looking for suggestions on specific alarms. I
          think I would like to monitor the doors and maybe the hood. I
          would also like a motion sensor. Our route starts in
          Cincinnati heading first to Colorado Springs, Co. to drive up
          Pikes Peak with a bunch of local TriState Triumph people. Then
          my wife and I will head out by ourselves to visit Mt.
          Rushmore, then up to Yellowstone then east through the
          badlands and on to home. That’s a lot of motels to stop at and
          if I can’t park right in front of the entrance, I will not be
          sleeping very well.<br>
          &gt;&gt; I know I will have to add door switches and another
          one for the hood. I am planning on adding a courtesy light
          anyway so the door switches are already planned.<br>
          &gt;&gt; Thanks in advance!<br>
          &gt;&gt; Dave Connitt<br>
          &gt;&gt; DavesTR4A.com<br>
          &gt;&gt; <br>
          &gt;&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
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> Hello Everyone,
>   That?s a lot of motels to stop at and if I can?t park right in front of the entrance, I will not be sleeping very well.

I would suggest to go (maybe additional) for a more effective and 
cheaper solution. Install a hidden switch somewhere behind your 
dashboard that cuts of the power to the coil and / or these battery main 
switches where you can take one part off and take it to your room.

Tom

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On 1/11/23, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> wrote:
> Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My
> concern is more about preventing someone from stealing something out of the
> car when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally
> planning on just locking the doors but someone locally said that if the
> doors are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I could
> just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?
> Dave
>

If they are that valuable, keep them in a bag and take them with you
to the room.


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 08:51:20 -0800
To: Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about installing an alarm system in my TR4A
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I have a Stag. When the softtop is either down or up, I don't care whether
the doors are locked. I do, however, lock the glove box.  On the other
hand, when the metal hard top on the car, I'm paranoid about making sure
the doors are locked.
Sujit

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 6:34 AM Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/11/23, Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> wrote:
> > Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My
> > concern is more about preventing someone from stealing something out of
> the
> > car when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally
> > planning on just locking the doors but someone locally said that if the
> > doors are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I
> could
> > just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?
> > Dave
> >
>
> If they are that valuable, keep them in a bag and take them with you
> to the room.
>
>
> --
> Hoyt
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a Stag. When the softtop is either down or up, I do=
n&#39;t care whether the doors are locked. I do, however, lock the glove bo=
x.=C2=A0 On the other hand, when the metal hard top on the car, I&#39;m par=
anoid about making sure the doors are locked.=C2=A0<div>Sujit<br></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On T=
hu, Jan 12, 2023 at 6:34 AM Hoyt Duff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hoytduff@gmail.=
com">hoytduff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">On 1/11/23, Dave Connitt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dconn=
itt@fuse.net" target=3D"_blank">dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Thanks for all the great suggestions on alarm systems for my TR4A. My<=
br>
&gt; concern is more about preventing someone from stealing something out o=
f the<br>
&gt; car when while we are parked somewhere on the road. I was originally<b=
r>
&gt; planning on just locking the doors but someone locally said that if th=
e<br>
&gt; doors are locked the thief would just cut the top to get in. I guess I=
 could<br>
&gt; just store the valuable things in the locked trunk?<br>
&gt; Dave<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
If they are that valuable, keep them in a bag and take them with you<br>
to the room.<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 17:38:51 -0600
To: John Linney <john@linneyweb.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Late TR4/TR4A cylinder head needed.
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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John, I'm sure you'll find a donor -- there have got to be lots out there.

If you get either *really* serious or *really* desperate, the TR Register
(UK) Spares Development Fund partnered with Moss Europe some years ago to
recreate the four-pot cylinder head as a new offering in cast iron or
aluminum alloy.
https://trsdf.uk/projects
https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/engine/cylinder-=
head-fittings/tr3-tr4a-aluminium-iron-cylinder-heads.html



On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 5:31 PM John Linney <john@linneyweb.com> wrote:

> It looks like the late type 4A head on my motor is not repairable. Does
> anyone have a good core (or even a fully built head) they'd like to move
> along? It=E2=80=99s going on a street car so I just need something that w=
ill work.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> -john
>
> 408 887 8105
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Joh=
n, I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll find a donor -- there have got to be lots out th=
ere.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If you get either *r=
eally* serious or *really* desperate, the TR Register (UK) Spares Developme=
nt Fund partnered with Moss Europe some years ago to recreate the four-pot =
cylinder head as a new offering in cast iron or aluminum alloy.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://trsdf.u=
k/projects">https://trsdf.uk/projects</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/sho=
p-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/engine/cylinder-head-fittings/tr3-tr4a-aluminium-=
iron-cylinder-heads.html">https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/trium=
ph/tr2-4a/engine/cylinder-head-fittings/tr3-tr4a-aluminium-iron-cylinder-he=
ads.html</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 5:31 PM John Linney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john@li=
nneyweb.com">john@linneyweb.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It looks like the late type 4A head on my =
motor is not repairable. Does anyone have a good core (or even a fully buil=
t head) they&#39;d like to move along? It=E2=80=99s going on a street car s=
o I just need something that will work.<br>
<br>
Any help is much appreciated.<br>
<br>
-john<br>
<br>
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From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:56:41 -0800
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] KROIL
Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net

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I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with?
Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.

Sujit

-- 
Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California

https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted=
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issue.<div>It is good, but is there something=C2=A0cheaper that folks=C2=A0=
are happy with? Please don&#39;t=C2=A0recommend WD40. I&#39;ve used JB80 be=
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Yeah, expensive stuff alright.   If you look on eBay there are a number of d=
ifferent sizes, spray and liquid, you could buy a little less but cost per o=
unce is still pretty close. =20
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=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s riding a shetland=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6=
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=EF=BB=BF
I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I ju=
st got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in Cal=
ifornia and serious rust isn't an issue.
It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? Please=
 don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, but t=
hat is about 23$ for a similar size can.

Sujit

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yeah, expensive stuff alright. &nbsp; If yo=
u look on eBay there are a number of different sizes, spray and liquid, you c=
ould buy a little less but cost per ounce is still pretty close. &nbsp;<div>=
Bill<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s ridin=
g a shetland=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6B.Wills</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 23, 2=
023, at 5:27 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm down to my last spray can of=
 this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the price of a=
 new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious ru=
st isn't an issue.<div>It is good, but is there something&nbsp;cheaper that f=
olks&nbsp;are happy with? Please don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used JB80 b=
efore someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size ca=
n.</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a hre=
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Try superzilla.

Bob

On 1/23/23 5:56 PM, Sujit Roy wrote:
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, 
> but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off 
> Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? 
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended 
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
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> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
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    <p>Bob<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/23/23 5:56 PM, Sujit Roy wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It
        lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the price of a new
        16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust
        isn't an issue.
        <div>It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are
          happy with? Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before
          someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar
          size can.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Sujit<br clear="all">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          -- <br>
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              <div>Sujit Roy<br>
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Kroil is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic.  I=E2=80=99=
ve got a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 & 1 =
oil which if I=E2=80=99m someone careful, I don=E2=80=99t waste as much.

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> On Jan 23, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, =
but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off =
Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? =
Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended =
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
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ve got a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 =
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class=3D"">I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long =
time, but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off =
Amazon. I'm in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious rust isn't an issue.<div =
class=3D"">It is good, but is there something&nbsp;cheaper that =
folks&nbsp;are happy with? Please don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used =
JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a =
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:22:48 -0600
To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Yeah, Kroil pricing has gone nuts.

It=E2=80=99s the best I=E2=80=99ve used (and I luckily have two almost-full=
 cans). PB
Blaster is my next favorite. It=E2=80=99s OK.

On Monday, January 23, 2023, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
> just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
> in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with?
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
>

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Yeah, Kroil pricing has gone nuts.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>It=E2=80=99s th=
e best I=E2=80=99ve used (and I luckily have two almost-full cans). PB Blas=
ter is my next favorite. It=E2=80=99s OK.=C2=A0<br><br>On Monday, January 2=
3, 2023, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com">triumphstag=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">I&#39;m down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, b=
ut I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I&=
#39;m in=C2=A0California=C2=A0and serious rust isn&#39;t an issue.<div>It i=
s good, but is there something=C2=A0cheaper that folks=C2=A0are happy with?=
 Please don&#39;t=C2=A0recommend WD40. I&#39;ve used JB80 before someone re=
commended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cuper=
tino, California</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.<wbr>wordpress.com/</a><br=
><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:50:40 -0500
To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
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PB Blaster as a penetrant is a workable commercial substitute for
KROIL, but a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF is the BEST and superior to
KROIL.

I like Boeshield for corrosion protection on machined surface.

On 1/23/23, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
> just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
> in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with?
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>


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Well, Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab =
folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in =
2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. =
Naturally, over the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a =
case of something called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline =
type of coating to keep items from rusting over long term storage. That =
was a good product and I see they no longer offer it. That=E2=80=99s too =
bad. I also see that the company no longer sells direct to the consumer, =
but only through distributors. As we all know, anything from Amazon will =
be sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it appears that the =
company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many =
changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is when you buy a bunch =
of spray cans and then in time, some of them loose their propellant. Now =
you have full cans with no easy way of getting the product out. I think =
the Kroil cans had an overly high incidence of that happening.=20

=20

I bought a gallon can in 2017 =E2=80=93 it was $53 for one can that you =
could use in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That =
was a good value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. =
I found out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you =
used Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much you =
pressure washed the item. I=E2=80=99ll never buy that again. =
It=E2=80=99s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current =
marketing strategy, I don=E2=80=99t think I will be writing any more =
checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.

=20

I bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer =
for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and =
that=E2=80=99s what I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of =
a residual lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like =
ratchet binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, =
especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy =
that sort of thing, you don=E2=80=99t experience what amounts to =
incredibly high shipping costs.

=20

I agree =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t use WD40 much. I have found it can =
cause rusting of unprotected surfaces.

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Sujit Roy
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] KROIL

=20

I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but =
I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. =
I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.

It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? =
Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended =
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.

=20

Sujit


=20

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is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab folder and I =
see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in 2007. I believe =
they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. Naturally, over =
the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a case of something =
called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline type of coating =
to keep items from rusting over long term storage. That was a good =
product and I see they no longer offer it. That=E2=80=99s too bad. I =
also see that the company no longer sells direct to the consumer, but =
only through distributors. As we all know, anything from Amazon will be =
sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it appears that the =
company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many =
changes. One thing that really is aggravating =C2=A0is when you buy a =
bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them loose their =
propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy way of getting the =
product out. I think the Kroil cans had an overly high incidence of that =
happening. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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gallon can in 2017 =E2=80=93 it was $53 for one can that you could use =
in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That was a good =
value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I found =
out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you used =
Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much you =
pressure washed the item. I=E2=80=99ll never buy that again. =
It=E2=80=99s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current =
marketing strategy, I don=E2=80=99t think I will be writing any more =
checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textf=
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ill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>I bought a =
gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer for about =
$30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and that=E2=80=99s what =
I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of a residual =
lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like ratchet =
binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, =
especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy =
that sort of thing, you don=E2=80=99t experience what amounts to =
incredibly high shipping costs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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=E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause =
rusting of unprotected surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Sujit Roy<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] =
KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm =
down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I =
just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm =
in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious rust isn't an =
issue.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is good, but is there =
something&nbsp;cheaper that folks&nbsp;are happy with? Please =
don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended =
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size =
can.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit =
Roy<br>Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><a =
href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
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To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
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PB Blaster is my bust it loose of choice

Greg Lemon

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:27 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
> just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
> in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with?
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
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> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
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<div dir=3D"auto">PB Blaster is my bust it loose of choice<div dir=3D"auto"=
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quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 5:27 PM =
Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com">triumphstag@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
&#39;m down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but =
I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I&#39=
;m in=C2=A0California=C2=A0and serious rust isn&#39;t an issue.<div>It is g=
ood, but is there something=C2=A0cheaper that folks=C2=A0are happy with? Pl=
ease don&#39;t=C2=A0recommend WD40. I&#39;ve used JB80 before someone recom=
mended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
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From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
To: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
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If you are concerned, use weasel piss.

50% acetone and 50% ATF


-------- Original message --------
From: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Date: 1/23/23 8:40 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

Kroil is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic.  I=92ve go=
t a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 & 1 oil whi=
ch if I=92m someone careful, I don=92t waste as much.

Rye

hstag@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I j=
ust got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in C=
alifornia and serious rust isn't an issue.
It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? Pleas=
e don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, bu=
t that is about 23$ for a similar size can.

Sujit

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<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">50% acetone and 50% ATF</div>
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<div>From: Rye Livingston &lt;ryel@mac.com&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 1/23/23 8:40 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Sujit Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail.com&gt; </div>
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<div>Kroil is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic. &nbsp=
;I=92ve got a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 &=
amp; 1 oil which if I=92m someone careful, I don=92t waste as much.
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ssue.
<div class=3D"">It is good, but is there something&nbsp;cheaper that folks&=
nbsp;are happy with? Please don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used JB80 befor=
e someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.<=
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ditto on the acetone -ATF...

ptegler

n 1/23/2023 7:50 PM, Hoyt Duff wrote:

> PB Blaster as a penetrant is a workable commercial substitute for
> KROIL, but a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF is the BEST and superior to
> KROIL.
>
> I like Boeshield for corrosion protection on machined surface.
>
> On 1/23/23, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
>> just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
>> in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
>> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with?
>> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended
>> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>>
>> Sujit
>>
>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
>>
>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>
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fyi ...for your cans that lost propellant .... you can can recharge them 
by stuffing a nozzle down the throat after popping off the spray head.
Easiest (BUT ILL ADVISED) a standard can of cigarette butane will 
pressurize the spray can. (don't do it!)

typical... (I'd not go above 60ps) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI>also
you pressurized them
https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-11
<https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-11>and 
stuff like
https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-10
<https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-10>which 
are self pressured
I've used these wil car touch paint
jfft

ptegler

On 1/23/2023 8:24 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Well, Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab 
> folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in 
> 2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. 
> Naturally, over the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a 
> case of something called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, 
> cosmoline type of coating to keep items from rusting over long term 
> storage. That was a good product and I see they no longer offer it. 
> That’s too bad. I also see that the company no longer sells direct to 
> the consumer, but only through distributors. As we all know, anything 
> from Amazon will be sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it 
> appears that the company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the 
> reason for so many changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is 
> when you buy a bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them 
> loose their propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy way of 
> getting the product out. I think the Kroil cans had an overly high 
> incidence of that happening.
>
> I bought a gallon can in 2017 – it was $53 for one can that you could 
> use in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That was 
> a good value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I 
> found out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you 
> used Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much 
> you pressure washed the item. I’ll never buy that again. It’s also 
> over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current marketing strategy, I 
> don’t think I will be writing any more checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.
>
> I bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer 
> for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and that’s 
> what I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of a residual 
> lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like ratchet 
> binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, 
> especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to 
> buy that sort of thing, you don’t experience what amounts to 
> incredibly high shipping costs.
>
> I agree – I don’t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause rusting of 
> unprotected surfaces.
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Sujit Roy
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM
> *To:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* [TR] KROIL
>
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, 
> but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off 
> Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
>
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? 
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended 
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
> -- 
>
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
>
>
> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
>
>
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    <p>fyi ...for your cans that lost propellant .... you can can
      recharge them by stuffing a nozzle down the throat after popping
      off the spray head.<br>
      Easiest (BUT ILL ADVISED) a standard can of cigarette butane will
      pressurize the spray can. (don't do it!)<br>
      <br>
      typical... (I'd not go above 60ps) <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI<br>
      </a>also<br>
      you pressurized them<br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-11">https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-11<br>
      </a>and stuff like <br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-10">https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-10<br>
      </a>which are self pressured<br>
      I've used these wil car touch paint<br>
      jfft</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/23/2023 8:24 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
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            Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano
            Lab folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case
            of 12 back in 2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz.
            cans but I could be wrong. Naturally, over the years, things
            got more expensive. I also bought a case of something called
            Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline type of
            coating to keep items from rusting over long term storage.
            That was a good product and I see they no longer offer it.
            That’s too bad. I also see that the company no longer sells
            direct to the consumer, but only through distributors. As we
            all know, anything from Amazon will be sold at a premium.
            From their (Kano) website, it appears that the company was
            sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many
            changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is when you
            buy a bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them
            loose their propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy
            way of getting the product out. I think the Kroil cans had
            an overly high incidence of that happening. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            bought a gallon can in 2017 – it was $53 for one can that
            you could use in either a pump style sprayer or a
            pressurized sprayer. That was a good value but I made the
            mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I found out in a
            hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you used
            Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how
            much you pressure washed the item. I’ll never buy that
            again. It’s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their
            current marketing strategy, I don’t think I will be writing
            any more checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I
            bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump
            sprayer for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good
            value and that’s what I would suggest. I think the PB
            Blaster has more of a residual lubricating effect and I find
            that works well on things like ratchet binders and things
            like that. It is also a credible penetrant, especially with
            a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy that
            sort of thing, you don’t experience what amounts to
            incredibly high shipping costs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I
            agree – I don’t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause
            rusting of unprotected surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Alex
            Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
            Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Sujit Roy<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [TR] KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I'm down to my last spray can of this
            stuff. It lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the
            price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
            in California and serious rust isn't an issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">It is good, but is there
              something cheaper that folks are happy with? Please
              don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone
              recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar
              size can.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
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              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
                    Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
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                    <a href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/"
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                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's
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I have all the usual suspects on the shelf, Kroil, PB Blaster, torch etc. T=
hey all help some. But whenever I have a stubborn bolt nut stud, whatever, =
that I just cannot get out I remember the old school candle wax method. I g=
o dig out the stub of a candle in the back of my tool box, apply some heat =
to the culprit, touch it with the candle and let it cool for a bit and wick=
 the wax down around the treads and WALA, the offending culprit always seem=
s to come out and I think, dang, why didn't I try this hours ago. It really=
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From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
To: Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [TR] KROIL
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From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:40 -0800
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Trying to identify bolt from part no.
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Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catalogue for use with Standard
Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what type of bolt would be one
with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Stag.
Question 2. I'm assuming from the number given to this bolt it has some
meaning. Does anyone know how to decode this number?

Sujit

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Cupertino, California

https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/

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oric&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5)=
;font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap">Question 1. I have a copy of the Hard=
ware Catalogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I&#39;m trying to fi=
nd out what type of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bol=
t is for a Stag.</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI=
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From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 13:06:19 -0700
To: Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's
quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only thing I'd
recommend it for.

I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't readily
come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com> wrote:

> I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's
> mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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te good at=C2=A0stain removal, and that&#39;s probably the only thing I&#39=
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 come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Hoyt Duff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hoytdu=
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	I=E2=80=99m with Marty.  When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I had =
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risk of braking off what remained of the stud. I didn=E2=80=99t think it =
would work, but to my great relief it did.
	Heated the stud area, melted some wax into the stud base and I =
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	Best,
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> On Jan 24, 2023, at 12:02 PM, marty sukey <trmarty@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I have all the usual suspects on the shelf, Kroil, PB Blaster, torch =
etc. They all help some. But whenever I have a stubborn bolt nut stud, =
whatever, that I just cannot get out I remember the old school candle =
wax method. I go dig out the stub of a candle in the back of my tool =
box, apply some heat to the culprit, touch it with the candle and let it =
cool for a bit and wick the wax down around the treads and WALA, the =
offending culprit always seems to come out and I think, dang, why didn't =
I try this hours ago. It really does work!
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> Marty
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 with Marty. &nbsp;When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I had broken off exhaust =
header stud I couldn=E2=80=99t get it out without the risk of braking =
off what remained of the stud. I didn=E2=80=99t think it would work, but =
to my great relief it did.<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Heated the stud area, melted some =
wax into the stud base and I was able to turn it =
free.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
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none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I have all the usual suspects on =
the shelf, Kroil, PB Blaster, torch etc. They all help some. But =
whenever I have a stubborn bolt nut stud, whatever, that I just cannot =
get out I remember the old school candle wax method. I go dig out the =
stub of a candle in the back of my tool box, apply some heat to the =
culprit, touch it with the candle and let it cool for a bit and wick the =
wax down around the treads and WALA, the offending culprit always seems =
to come out and I think, dang, why didn't I try this hours ago. It =
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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:35:08 -0600
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Trying to identify bolt from part no.
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Rimmers says that this part number has been superseded to P/N PX505.
Description for PX505 is:
Setscrew Pan Head Pozi 3/16 UNF x 5/8"

Hope this helps,
Mike

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:09 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:

> Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catalogue for use with Standard
> Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what type of bolt would be one
> with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Stag.
> Question 2. I'm assuming from the number given to this bolt it has some
> meaning. Does anyone know how to decode this number?
>
> Sujit
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rimmers says that this part number has been superseded to =
P/N PX505.=C2=A0 Description for PX505 is:<div><h1 id=3D"gmail-item-short-d=
escription" style=3D"font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:no=
rmal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:1.1;font-family:arial;margin:0px;paddi=
ng:0px;letter-spacing:-0.025em"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font si=
ze=3D"2">Setscrew Pan Head Pozi 3/16 UNF x 5/8&quot;</font></span></h1><div=
><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"2"><br></font></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"2">Hope this helps,=
</font></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"><font size=3D"2=
">Mike</font></span></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:09 PM Sujit Roy &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI Historic&quo=
t;,&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-si=
ze:15px;white-space:pre-wrap">Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Cat=
alogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I&#39;m trying to find out w=
hat type of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bolt is for=
 a Stag.</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI Histori=
c&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);fo=
nt-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap">Question 2. I&#39;m assuming from the nu=
mber given to this bolt it has some meaning. Does anyone know how to decode=
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From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:46:29 -0600
To: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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Agree about WD-40, it is a nice mild solvent generally won't remove set up
paint or dissolve plastics like lacquer thinner, acetone or reducer can,
but cleans off gummy residues and paints and coatings that haven't set.
Will use it to clean old sticky mechanisms and gummed up grease and apply
appropriate lube after cleaning.

Probably shouldn't, but sometimes a light spray to clean off stuff from my
hands that isn't conventional soap and water soluble.

Greg Lemon
TR250



On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:34 PM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's
> quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only thing I'd
> recommend it for.
>
> I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't readily
> come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's
>> mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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<div dir=3D"auto">Agree about WD-40, it is a nice mild solvent generally wo=
n&#39;t remove set up paint or dissolve plastics like lacquer thinner, acet=
one or reducer can, but cleans off gummy residues and paints and coatings t=
hat haven&#39;t set.=C2=A0 Will use it to clean old sticky mechanisms and g=
ummed up grease and apply appropriate lube after cleaning.<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Probably shouldn&#39;t, but sometimes a light =
spray to clean off stuff from my hands that isn&#39;t conventional soap and=
 water soluble.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lem=
on</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:34 PM Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-size:small">I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for =
oily stains on laundry. It&#39;s quite good at=C2=A0stain removal, and that=
&#39;s probably the only thing I&#39;d recommend it for.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small">I&#39;ll sometimes use it to degrease bicyc=
le mechanisms that don&#39;t readily come apart, like some shifter or brift=
er types, where it does all right.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Ho=
yt Duff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hoytduff@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">hoytduff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
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r-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I o=
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Wd40 also works great removing rustproofing and undercoating and nasty greas=
e spots when cleaning an engine bay

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's qui=
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> I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't readily co=
me apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.
>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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pots when cleaning an engine bay</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Jan 24, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Don Hiscock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.com&gt=
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">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
small">I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It'=
s quite good at&nbsp;stain removal, and that's probably the only thing I'd r=
ecommend it for.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I'll somet=
imes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't readily come apart, li=
ke some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 2=
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;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I only use WD40 as a l=
ubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's<br>
mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.<br>
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Parcel Shelf Screw [PX505] 519026SS
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Stainless Steel Hex Set Screw to attach parcel shelf at kick panel side.
Two required. Use with WP197 |


    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 06:12:08 PM EST, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catalogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what type of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Stag.Question 2. I'm assuming from the number given to this bolt it has some meaning. Does anyone know how to decode this number?
Sujit
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                    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 06:12:08 PM EST, Sujit =
Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv4436280230"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=
=3D"font-family:UI Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:=
15px;white-space:pre-wrap;">Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catal=
ogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what ty=
pe of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Sta=
g.</div><div style=3D"font-family:UI Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb=
(5,5,5);font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap;">Question 2. I'm assuming from=
 the number given to this bolt it has some meaning. Does anyone know how to=
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ns-serif;color:rgb(5,5,5);font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap;"><br></div><=
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From: James Childs <tochilds@bellsouth.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
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 Further digging, I come up with this on Rimmer Bros:

Setscrew Pan Head Pozi 3/16 UNF x 5/8" - PX505


Tony


    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 07:17:24 PM EST, James Childs <tochilds@bellsouth.net> wrote:  
 
  

| 
Parcel Shelf Screw [PX505] 519026SS
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| 
Stainless Steel Hex Set Screw to attach parcel shelf at kick panel side.
Two required. Use with WP197 |


    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 06:12:08 PM EST, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catalogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what type of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Stag.Question 2. I'm assuming from the number given to this bolt it has some meaning. Does anyone know how to decode this number?
Sujit
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Further digging, I come up w=
ith this on Rimmer Bros:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></=
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X505</h1></span><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
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Childs &lt;tochilds@bellsouth.net&gt; wrote:
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6product"><h1 style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1=
8px;color:rgb(180, 58, 102);margin:0px;padding:0px;border-width:0px;">Parce=
l Shelf Screw [PX505] 519026SS</h1></td><td align=3D"right" colspan=3D"1" r=
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e=3D"font-size:12px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"yiv0355313596ydp5612abc6p=
roduct"><br clear=3D"none">Stainless Steel Hex Set Screw to attach parcel s=
helf at kick panel side.<br clear=3D"none">Two required. Use with WP197</td=
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                    On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 06:12:08 PM EST, Sujit =
Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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15px;white-space:pre-wrap;">Question 1. I have a copy of the Hardware Catal=
ogue for use with Standard Triumph Vehicles. I'm trying to find out what ty=
pe of bolt would be one with the part number 519026. This bolt is for a Sta=
g.</div><div style=3D"font-family:UI Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb=
(5,5,5);font-size:15px;white-space:pre-wrap;">Question 2. I'm assuming from=
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...removing bug and tar from your road car. Has zero effects on 
clearcoat/paint but wipes the crud right off.

ptegler

On 1/24/2023 3:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's 
> quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only thing I'd 
> recommend it for.
>
> I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't 
> readily come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does 
> all right.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's
>     mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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    <p>...removing bug and tar from your road car. Has zero effects on
      clearcoat/paint but wipes the crud right off.</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/24/2023 3:06 PM, Don Hiscock
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I use WD-40
          mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's
          quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only
          thing I'd recommend it for.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'll
          sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't
          readily come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where
          it does all right.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53
          PM Hoyt Duff &lt;<a href="mailto:hoytduff@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">hoytduff@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
          only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my
          lathe. It's<br>
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   1. KROIL (Sujit Roy)
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No one has mentioned Mouse Milk, which works very well.

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Has anyone used an inductive heat unit to remove corroded nuts?  Curious how they worked out.  Of course, if you go to you tube they work great...
	Bob

> On Jan 25, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net> wrote:
> 
> Here is another option. Heat riser solvent. Up to the 1960's (?) American cars had "heat risers on the exhaust manifolds. These would open to allow manifold heat to warm intake on initial start-up.  Hard to find today - garage sales, older repair shops, etc - but if this didn't break it loose, it was normally torch time.  Ted (who jealously guards his last can of Mopar Heat Riser Solvent)
> 
> 
> On 1/24/2023 10:22 PM, Ron L"Herault wrote:
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
>> triumphs-request@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:00 PM
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. KROIL (Sujit Roy)
>> **********************************
>> 
>> No one has mentioned Mouse Milk, which works very well.
>> 
>> Ron L
>> 
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From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:41:00 -0500
To: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Kroil
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A Mopar forum I=E2=80=99m reading suggests:

Genuine Chrysler Accessories 4318039AC Rust Penetrant - 10.8 oz. Aerosol
Can - 4318039AD
Available on Amazon and elsewhere=E2=80=A6

Dave

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:06 AM Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net> wrote=
:

> Here is another option. Heat riser solvent. Up to the 1960's (?)
> American cars had "heat risers on the exhaust manifolds. These would
> open to allow manifold heat to warm intake on initial start-up.  Hard to
> find today - garage sales, older repair shops, etc - but if this didn't
> break it loose, it was normally torch time.  Ted (who jealously guards
> his last can of Mopar Heat Riser Solvent)
>
>
> On 1/24/2023 10:22 PM, Ron L"Herault wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
> > triumphs-request@autox.team.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:00 PM
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >     1. KROIL (Sujit Roy)
> > **********************************
> >
> > No one has mentioned Mouse Milk, which works very well.
> >
> > Ron L
> >
> > ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >
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>
> --
> Ted Schumacher
> tedtsimx@bright.net
> http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
> 305 S. Jefferson St.
> Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
> Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada)
> Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">A Mopar forum I=E2=80=99m reading suggests:</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><h1 class=3D"a-size-small a-color-secondary a-text-norm=
al" style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:&quot=
;Amazon Ember&quot;,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:400!important;font-size:1.=
3rem!important;line-height:1.4!important;color:rgb(86,89,89)!important" dir=
=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size:1.3rem">Genuine Chrysler Accessories 431=
8039AC Rust Penetrant - 10.8 oz. Aerosol Can - 4318039AD</span></h1><h1 cla=
ss=3D"a-size-small a-color-secondary a-text-normal" style=3D"box-sizing:bor=
der-box;padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:&quot;Amazon Ember&quot;,Arial,s=
ans-serif;font-weight:400!important;font-size:1.3rem!important;line-height:=
1.4!important;color:rgb(86,89,89)!important" dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:1.3rem"><br></span></h1><h1 class=3D"a-size-small a-color-secondary=
 a-text-normal" style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px;margin:0px;font-=
family:&quot;Amazon Ember&quot;,Arial,sans-serif;font-weight:400!important;=
font-size:1.3rem!important;line-height:1.4!important;color:rgb(86,89,89)!im=
portant" dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size:1.3rem">Available on Amazon =
and elsewhere=E2=80=A6</span></h1><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:1.3rem"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-size:1.3re=
m">Dave</span></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:06 AM Ted Schumacher &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tedtsimx@bright.net">tedtsimx@bright.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Here is another option. Heat riser solve=
nt. Up to the 1960&#39;s (?) <br>
American cars had &quot;heat risers on the exhaust manifolds. These would <=
br>
open to allow manifold heat to warm intake on initial start-up.=C2=A0 Hard =
to <br>
find today - garage sales, older repair shops, etc - but if this didn&#39;t=
 <br>
break it loose, it was normally torch time.=C2=A0 Ted (who jealously guards=
 <br>
his last can of Mopar Heat Riser Solvent)<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/24/2023 10:22 PM, Ron L&quot;Herault wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" =
target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">t=
riumphs-request@autox.team.net</a><br>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:00 PM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01. KROIL (Sujit Roy)<br>
&gt; **********************************<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; No one has mentioned Mouse Milk, which works very well.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron L<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ** <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triump=
hs@autox.team.net</a> **<br>
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 It should.=C2=A0 But it all depends on access.=C2=A0 The inductive heater =
I've seen is unwieldy and not a good candidate for placing around an exhaus=
t manifold nut.=C2=A0 But that is not what it was designed to do.=C2=A0 If =
there is a small-format inductive heater it should work as well as an oxi t=
orch without the collateral heating effects with that approach.
BTW and oxi torch works wonders.=C2=A0 I've used it to remove broken-off st=
uds from cast iron manifolds with zero collateral damage.=C2=A0 (Of course =
I replace with grade-8 studs and anti-seize.=C2=A0 No more issues going for=
ward.)
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Dave=20


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-----Original Message-----
From: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 25, 2023 10:19 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Kroil

Has anyone used an inductive heat unit to remove corroded nuts?=C2=A0 Curio=
us how they worked out.=C2=A0 Of course, if you go to you tube they work gr=
eat...
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bob

> On Jan 25, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net> wrote:
>=20
> Here is another option. Heat riser solvent. Up to the 1960's (?) American=
 cars had "heat risers on the exhaust manifolds. These would open to allow =
manifold heat to warm intake on initial start-up.=C2=A0 Hard to find today =
- garage sales, older repair shops, etc - but if this didn't break it loose=
, it was normally torch time.=C2=A0 Ted (who jealously guards his last can =
of Mopar Heat Riser Solvent)
>=20
>=20
> On 1/24/2023 10:22 PM, Ron L"Herault wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
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>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:00 PM
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. KROIL (Sujit Roy)
>> **********************************
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>> No one has mentioned Mouse Milk, which works very well.
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>> Ron L
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> 305 S. Jefferson St.
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<div> <font size=3D"3">It should.&nbsp; But it all depends on access.&nbsp;=
 The inductive heater I've seen is unwieldy and not a good candidate for pl=
acing around an exhaust manifold nut.&nbsp; But that is not what it was des=
igned to do.&nbsp; If there is a small-format inductive heater it should wo=
rk as well as an oxi torch without the collateral heating effects with that=
 approach.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">BTW and oxi torch works wonders.&nbsp; I've used it t=
o remove broken-off studs from cast iron manifolds with zero collateral dam=
age.&nbsp; (Of course I replace with grade-8 studs and anti-seize.&nbsp; No=
 more issues going forward.)<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone used an inductive heat unit to remove corroded =
nuts?&nbsp; Curious how they worked out.&nbsp; Of course, if you go to you =
tube they work great...<br clear=3D"none">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bob<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Jan 25, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Ted Schumac=
her &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tedtsimx@bright.net" href=3D"ma=
ilto:tedtsimx@bright.net">tedtsimx@bright.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Here is another option. Heat riser solvent=
. Up to the 1960's (?) American cars had "heat risers on the exhaust manifo=
lds. These would open to allow manifold heat to warm intake on initial star=
t-up.&nbsp; Hard to find today - garage sales, older repair shops, etc - bu=
t if this didn't break it loose, it was normally torch time.&nbsp; Ted (who=
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e">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; On 1/24/2023 10:22 =
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From: Hoyt Duff <hoytduff@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TR] Kroil
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PB Blaster versus Kroil --  https://cargister.com/pb-blaster-vs-kroil/

All the penetrating oils tend to be light oils with something added to
thin them (toluene, xylene or alcohol, for example), something to make
them "slippery" (a graphite-based compound is the "proprietary
ingredient" in Kroil), and something to dissolve resins and gums (MIBK
in MouseMilk).

The MSDS (Material Safety Data sheet) for each product lists the
ingredients and Wikipedia can decipher that info for the most part.

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Ted told me about this Mopar product 20+ years ago and I have one full can and one part can remaining. Great stuff.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@bright.net> 
Sent: January 25, 2023 10:43 AM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Kroil

Here is another option. Heat riser solvent. Up to the 1960's (?) American cars had "heat risers on the exhaust manifolds. These would open to allow manifold heat to warm intake on initial start-up.  Hard to find today - garage sales, older repair shops, etc - but if this didn't break it loose, it was normally torch time.  Ted (who jealously guards his last can of Mopar Heat Riser Solvent)

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hehe ...someone miss a couple emails?   1953. first commercial use was 
titan missile skin protection.
orig company name was Rocket Chemical Company
ptegler

On 1/27/2023 3:58 PM, Philip Ethier wrote:
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>     WD 40 was developed for Vietnam. 
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>  In 1953?
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      use was titan missile skin protection.<br>
      orig company name was Rocket Chemical Company<br>
      ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2023 3:58 PM, Philip Ethier
      wrote:<br>
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            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">WD 40 was developed for
            Vietnam.  </blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div> In 1953?</div>
        </div>
      </div>
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Well =E2=80=A6  The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t they? =
When did we show up =E2=80=93 was it =E2=80=9962?

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

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WD 40 was developed for Vietnam. =20

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Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
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On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Well …  The French left in ’54, didn’t they? When did we show up – was 
> it ’62?
>
As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked it up.

September 1950, President Harry Truman sent a Military Assistance 
Advisory Group (MAAG) to Vietnam to assist the French in the First 
Indochina war.

TeriAnn

>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Philip Ethier
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
> *To:* dave northrup
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] KROIL
>
>     WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.
>
>  In 1953?
>

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
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    <p>As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked
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    <p>TeriAnn<br>
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            Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 18:22:42 -0700
To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <tjwakeman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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The legend I=E2=80=99d heard is that WD-40 was created to protect missile p=
arts
from condensation and corrosion when stored overnight outside during
fabrication in San Diego. Maybe the Atlas program?

Dunno how right or wrong that is, but I=E2=80=99ve never heard the Vietnam =
part.

On Friday, January 27, 2023, TeriAnn J. Wakeman <tjwakeman@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Well =E2=80=A6  The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t they? When=
 did we show up =E2=80=93 was it
> =E2=80=9962?
>
> As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked it up.
> September 1950, President Harry Truman sent a Military Assistance
> Advisory Group (MAAG) to Vietnam to assist the French in the First
> Indochina war.
>
> TeriAnn
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
> <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Philip Ethier
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
> *To:* dave northrup
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] KROIL
>
>
>
> WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.
>
>
>
>  In 1953?
>
>
>

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The legend I=E2=80=99d heard is that WD-40 was created to protect missile p=
arts from condensation and corrosion when stored overnight outside during f=
abrication in San Diego. Maybe the Atlas program? =C2=A0<div><br></div><div=
>Dunno how right or wrong that is, but I=E2=80=99ve never heard the Vietnam=
 part. =C2=A0<br><br>On Friday, January 27, 2023, TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail.com">tjwakeman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <div>On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Well
            =E2=80=A6=C2=A0 The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t =
they? When did we show up
            =E2=80=93 was it =E2=80=9962?</span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked
      it up.<br>
    </p>
    <div aria-controls=3D"exacc_I2zUY5-iKPP2kPIPy9a28As_8" aria-expanded=3D=
"true" aria-labelledby=3D"exacc_I2zUY5-iKPP2kPIPy9a28As_7" role=3D"button">
      <div></div>
      <div></div>
    </div>
    <div style=3D"display:block">
      <div>
        <div>
          <div>
            <div style=3D"clear:none">
              <div aria-level=3D"3" role=3D"heading">
                <div>
                  <div aria-level=3D"3" role=3D"heading">September
                    1950<span lang=3D"en"><span>, President Harry Truman se=
nt a
                        Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to
                        Vietnam to assist the French in the First
                        Indochina war.</span></span></div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </div>
    <p>TeriAnn<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><br>
            <u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
            Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">mailto:triumphs-bounces@<wbr>autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] KROIL<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0p=
t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
            </blockquote>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0In 1953?<u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
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Alex,

No, the first US advisors were sent by Eisenhower in =9255, in reaction to =
the French defeat.

How do I know that but not the WD-40 origin story?

Cliff


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Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

Well =85  The French left in =9254, didn=92t they? When did we show up =96 =
was it =9262?

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip=
 Ethier
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
To: dave northrup
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.

 In 1953?


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s@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
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Another round of endless speculation and re-writing of history spoiled by
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<div dir=3D"auto">Another round of endless speculation and re-writing of hi=
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t'was exactly the site I quoted two days ago  ha!

tnx Mark (a thinking man i like!)

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On 1/27/2023 11:54 PM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> Another round of endless speculation and re-writing of history spoiled 
> by the "just Google it" contingent...
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> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023, 9:43 PM Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com> wrote:
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>     https://wd40company.com/our-company/our-history/
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    <p>t'was exactly the site I quoted two days ago  ha!</p>
    <p>tnx Mark (a thinking man i like!)</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2023 11:54 PM, Greg Lemon
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      <div dir="auto">Another round of endless speculation and
        re-writing of history spoiled by the "just Google it"
        contingent...</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 27, 2023, 9:43 PM
          Mark Bradakis &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@bradakis.com"
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Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL
Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net

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