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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e0eaccbe3a877a48259f72d7f47f278c; Mon, 01 Apr 2024 15:12:28 +0000 (UTC) From: "Notakitcar" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <8AB7E94C-83F9-4E15-B0C9-2066BBE5B15D@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:12:27 -0500 Thread-Index: AQLo+27s/hst1H74RLlifheqvkMP/AHWCH1aryfkPDA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============6266206015087028497== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01DA841D.1A239AF0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01DA841D.1A239AF0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years = now. =20 =20 Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back for = another car, tires and wheels, all performed well. I would definitely = use again should the need arise. =20 Bill B TS30800L =20 =20 From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = auprichard uprichard.net Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM To: Robert Rochlin ; 6pack@autox.team.net; = Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels =20 +1 on Alan Hendrix. =20 No experience with the wheels sold by Moss =E2=80=93 sorry. And I = recently had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the = UK. =20 Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives = =E2=80=93 racers rarely, if ever, use them. But don=E2=80=99t they look = great ? =20 Andrew Uprichard =20 =20 From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net = Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM Subject: [6pack] Wire Wheels =20 I=E2=80=99d like other peoples experience with wire wheels. = I=E2=80=99ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years. I = love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficulty.=20 Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, = but they can=E2=80=99t. Over time it=E2=80=99s been hit and miss as to = whether I can get the wheels properly balanced. Last year I got = balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin = cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the = steel set listed in the Moss catalog. Quality of the wheels themselves- I don=E2=80=99t do much = spirited driving, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty with the hubs of the = Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that there is an audible = clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much = more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I=E2=80=99ve also had issues = with the durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair = weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve said, these wheels are about 25 years = old and have about 40,000 miles on them. At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels. When = I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, = they only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about = 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted = wires are the same. Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I=E2=80=99m = guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sold. My questions are, are others having the same issue with their = wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having = better(good) luck with their wires? Best, Bob =E2=80=9972 TR6 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01DA841D.1A239AF0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no = problems, probably 10 years now.=C2=A0

 

Never heard a = discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back for another car, = tires and wheels, all performed well.=C2=A0 I would definitely use again = should the need arise.

 

Bill = B

TS30800L

 

 

From: Triumphs = [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of auprichard = uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 = AM
To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>; = 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs = <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire = Wheels

 

+1 on Alan = Hendrix.

 

No experience with the wheels sold by Moss = =E2=80=93 sorry.  And I recently had a very bad experience ordering = wheels from Rimmers in the UK.

 

Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier = than the alternatives =E2=80=93 racers rarely, if ever, use them.  = But don=E2=80=99t they look great ?

 

Andrew Uprichard

 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net= > On Behalf Of Robert Rochlin
Sent: Friday, = March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs = <triumphs@autox.team.net>Subject: [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

I=E2=80=99d  like = other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I=E2=80=99ve = been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love = the look of wires, but they have been no end of = difficulty. 

    &nbs= p;    Balancing- Most tire shops say they can = balance wire wheels, but they can=E2=80=99t.  Over time = it=E2=80=99s been hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels = properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones form Moss = that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in = the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the = Moss catalog.

    &nbs= p;    Quality of the wheels themselves- I = don=E2=80=99t do much spirited driving, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty = with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that = there is an audible clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. = This issue is much more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. = I=E2=80=99ve also had issues with the durability of the wheels finish. = This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve said, = these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on = them.

    &nbs= p;    At this point I need to replace at least 2 of = the wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while = chrome wires were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels = and the process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge = for chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells = MWS wire wheels, which I=E2=80=99m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap = wires they previously sold.

    &nbs= p;    My questions are, are others having the same = issue with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from = Moss having better(good) luck with their wires?

Best,

Bob

=E2=80=9972 TR6

= ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01DA841D.1A239AF0-- --===============6266206015087028497== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive --===============6266206015087028497==-- From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 10:35:00 2024 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D8CA075D for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mx1a.swcp.com (unknown [216.184.2.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896A8A06CD for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:22:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ame7.swcp.com (ame7.swcp.com [216.184.2.70]) by mx1a.swcp.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id 431GMKcK017230; Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:22:21 -0600 Received-SPF: pass (ame7.swcp.com: authenticated connection) receiver=ame7.swcp.com; client-ip=38.158.189.125; helo=[192.168.4.24]; envelope-from=frogeye@porterscustom.com; x-software=spfmilter 2.001 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.2.10; Received: from [192.168.4.24] ([38.158.189.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by ame7.swcp.com (8.17.2/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 431GMIkS038946 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:22:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from frogeye@porterscustom.com) [192.168.4.24] Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 10:22:17 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Notakitcar , "'Triumphs'" References: <8AB7E94C-83F9-4E15-B0C9-2066BBE5B15D@comcast.net> <000801da8447$02f86a70$08e93f50$@yahoo.com> Content-Language: en-US From: David P (ame7.swcp.com [216.184.2.128]); Mon, 01 Apr 2024 10:22:19 -0600 (MDT) SPF_PASS version=4.0.0 Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2316703010249545502== boundary="------------QHy0As2D010vehi4GhnMuqRR" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------QHy0As2D010vehi4GhnMuqRR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a little lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to ship. Alan could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed?? DaveP On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote: > > Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years > now. > > Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back > for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.  I would > definitely use again should the need arise. > > Bill B > > TS30800L > > *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *auprichard uprichard.net > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM > *To:* Robert Rochlin ; 6pack@autox.team.net; > Triumphs > *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels > > +1 on Alan Hendrix. > > No experience with the wheels sold by Moss – sorry.  And I recently > had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK. > > Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives – > racers rarely, if ever, use them.  But don’t they look great ? > > Andrew Uprichard > > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert Rochlin > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM > *To:* 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs > *Subject:* [6pack] Wire Wheels > > I’d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I’ve been > running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of > wires, but they have been no end of difficulty. > >          Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, > but they can’t.  Over time it’s been hit and miss as to whether I can > get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones > form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got > were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set > listed in the Moss catalog. > >          Quality of the wheels themselves- I don’t do much spirited > driving, but I’ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I > have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when > starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more > pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I’ve also had issues with the > durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather > driver. As I’ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have > about 40,000 miles on them. > >          At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the > wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires > were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the > process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for > chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire > wheels, which I’m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they > previously sold. > >          My questions are, are others having the same issue with their > wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having > better(good) luck with their wires? > > Best, > > Bob > > ’72 TR6 > > > **triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ --------------QHy0As2D010vehi4GhnMuqRR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a little lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to ship. Alan could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed??

DaveP

On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote:

Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years now. 

 

Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.  I would definitely use again should the need arise.

 

Bill B

TS30800L

 

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM
To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

+1 on Alan Hendrix.

 

No experience with the wheels sold by Moss – sorry.  And I recently had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK.

 

Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives – racers rarely, if ever, use them.  But don’t they look great ?

 

Andrew Uprichard

 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert Rochlin
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

I’d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I’ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficulty. 

         Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, but they can’t.  Over time it’s been hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the Moss catalog.

         Quality of the wheels themselves- I don’t do much spirited driving, but I’ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I’ve also had issues with the durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I’ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on them.

         At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I’m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sold.

         My questions are, are others having the same issue with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having better(good) luck with their wires?

Best,

Bob

’72 TR6


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On 4/1/2024 10:22 AM, David P wrote: > > FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a > little lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to > ship. Alan could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed?? > > DaveP > > On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote: >> >> Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years >> now. >> >> Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back >> for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.  I would >> definitely use again should the need arise. >> >> Bill B >> >> TS30800L >> >> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf >> Of *auprichard uprichard.net >> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM >> *To:* Robert Rochlin ; 6pack@autox.team.net; >> Triumphs >> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels >> >> +1 on Alan Hendrix. >> >> No experience with the wheels sold by Moss – sorry.  And I recently >> had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK. >> >> Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives – >> racers rarely, if ever, use them.  But don’t they look great ? >> >> Andrew Uprichard >> >> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert >> Rochlin >> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM >> *To:* 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs >> *Subject:* [6pack] Wire Wheels >> >> I’d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I’ve been >> running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of >> wires, but they have been no end of difficulty. >> >>          Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, >> but they can’t.  Over time it’s been hit and miss as to whether I can >> get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones >> form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got >> were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set >> listed in the Moss catalog. >> >>          Quality of the wheels themselves- I don’t do much spirited >> driving, but I’ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I >> have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when >> starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more >> pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I’ve also had issues with the >> durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair >> weather driver. As I’ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and >> have about 40,000 miles on them. >> >>          At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the >> wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires >> were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the >> process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for >> chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire >> wheels, which I’m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they >> previously sold. >> >>          My questions are, are others having the same issue with >> their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss >> having better(good) luck with their wires? >> >> Best, >> >> Bob >> >> ’72 TR6 >> >> >> **triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com > -- > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ > > **triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/frogeye@porterscustom.com -- Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378 My World go here:WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/ --------------juXihFpxvkggow44O3pf3Cvv Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Forgot to mention, they are free...no cost.. out of my shed..

On 4/1/2024 10:22 AM, David P wrote:

FWIW. I have a set of usable chrome wires for a TR6. One needs a little lateral truing. One must collect them here.. Royal PITA to ship. Alan could true it. Though I thought Alan had passed??

DaveP

On 4/1/2024 9:12 AM, Notakitcar wrote:

Have 60-spoke MWS from Moss on my car, no problems, probably 10 years now. 

 

Never heard a discouraging word about Hendrix, used him a while back for another car, tires and wheels, all performed well.  I would definitely use again should the need arise.

 

Bill B

TS30800L

 

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of auprichard uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:49 AM
To: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

+1 on Alan Hendrix.

 

No experience with the wheels sold by Moss – sorry.  And I recently had a very bad experience ordering wheels from Rimmers in the UK.

 

Bear in mind that wire wheels are heavier than the alternatives – racers rarely, if ever, use them.  But don’t they look great ?

 

Andrew Uprichard

 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert Rochlin
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 11:47 AM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net; Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Wire Wheels

 

I’d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I’ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficulty. 

         Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, but they can’t.  Over time it’s been hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the Moss catalog.

         Quality of the wheels themselves- I don’t do much spirited driving, but I’ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I’ve also had issues with the durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I’ve said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on them.

         At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels.  When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I’m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sold.

         My questions are, are others having the same issue with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having better(good) luck with their wires?

Best,

Bob

’72 TR6


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I especially appreciate David Porter's offer. I think it would be an over the top epic road trip to pick up set of wheels he offered, but I appreciate the offer all the same. I'm going to figure out a plan to replace the wheels on my car, but I'm good for this summer anyway. The big question is, "should stick with the Daytona wheels of jump to the MWS wheels from Moss? an expensive project that I didn't expect either way. Best, Bob '72 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 09:28:45 2024 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE712A0C17 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 09:28:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from S15-GW102.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C89A0B00 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 09:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay301.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by S15-GW102.mycloudmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V8pBL0wMCz2StHW for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from S14-MBX14-16.S14.local (10.40.132.156) by S15-MBX-10003.S15.local (10.40.140.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.2.1258.28; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 08:11:53 -0700 Received: from S14-MBX14-17.S14.local (10.40.132.157) by S14-MBX14-16.S14.local (10.40.132.156) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.35; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:11:53 -0400 Received: from S14-MBX14-17.S14.local ([fe80::f1e4:6532:f8ae:ba2a]) by S14-MBX14-17.S14.local ([fe80::f1e4:6532:f8ae:ba2a%2]) with mapi id 15.01.2507.035; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:11:53 -0400 From: dave northrup To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: TR3a interiors Thread-Index: AdqF2P6Md/1r9kCkSu+4jP90N/h7Yg== Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:11:53 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.40.134.225] x-routingagent: Treated Subject: [TR] TR3a interiors Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7488978635760706971== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96ranteercom_" --_000_2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have begun to look around for interior kits. Anyone have good success wi= th a particular vendor? Not a fan of Moss. The car was light blue with a = dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I am going to do as well= . I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs. --_000_2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have begun to look around for interior kits. = Anyone have good success with a particular vendor?  Not a fan of Moss= .  The car was light blue with a dark blue interior, including the bac= k seat, which I am going to do as well.

 

I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs.<= o:p>

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Fri, 5 Apr 2024 17:31:28 +0000 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 17:31:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Frank Fisher To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , dave northrup References: <2a2bf702ec5445daa4b475788961db96@ranteer.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a interiors Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0031862644733762786== boundary="----=_Part_6389494_1436465259.1712338272474" ------=_Part_6389494_1436465259.1712338272474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think the link below will get you to a guy known as "too tall". the link= gets you the ability to mail him. im pretty sure this is where my 2 friends and i each bought our interior se= ts.the guy did the best job for all 3 of us.very much open to your color sc= heme.you send him your capping, dash, door cards, seats, everything. he cov= ers them and sends them back ready to install.sends you to his leather supp= lier to see color choices. as examples:Pauls' colors were black with red piping.Curt did silver/white/= gray pipingi did grey/off white/dark grey piping.i even had him make the ho= od stick cover in the same leather to match. he can make you all new seats. tilt and hard back.he can make you the back = seat post and pre 600000 the only thing im not happy about is the foam seat. at 220 pounds i tend to= bottom out the foam and kinda sit hard on the plywood.if i could get back = to my fighting weight of 180, maybe it would be more better. my fault maybe= . laughif i were doing it again id ask him to use a more dense harder foam.= =C2=A0 99.9% loved it 3 times over Leather Triumph TR3 interior kit fits models with slant rear floor Sierra R= ed** | eBay |=20 |=20 |=20 | | | | | |=20 | |=20 Leather Triumph TR3 interior kit fits models with slant rear floor Sierr... This is a new Buckingham Classic interior which includes leather faced fron= t seat upholstery as original, leathe... | | | Frank On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 06:55:22 PM PDT, dave northrup wrote: =20 =20 =20 I have begun to look around for interior kits.=C2=A0 Anyone have good succe= ss with a particular vendor?=C2=A0 Not a fan of Moss.=C2=A0 The car was lig= ht blue with a dark blue interior, including the back seat, which I am goin= g to do as well. =20 =C2=A0 =20 I want to do foam instead of the old metal springs. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a= rchive 3@yahoo.com =20 ------=_Part_6389494_1436465259.1712338272474 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i think the link below will = get you to a guy known as "too tall". the link gets you the ability to mail= him.

im pretty sure this is where my 2 friends and i eac= h bought our interior sets.
the= guy did the best job for all 3 of us.
very much open to your color scheme.
you send him your capping, dash, door cards, seats, everythin= g. he covers them and sends them back ready to install.
sends you to his leather supplier to see color cho= ices.

as examples:
Pauls' colors were black with red piping.
Curt did silver/white/gray piping
i did grey/off white/dark grey piping.
i even had him make the hood stick cover in the= same leather to match.

he can make you all new seats. ti= lt and hard back.
he can make y= ou the back seat post and pre 600000

the only thing im no= t happy about is the foam seat. at 220 pounds i tend to bottom out the foam= and kinda sit hard on the plywood.
if i could get back to my fighting weight of 180, maybe it would be mo= re better. my fault maybe. laugh
if i were doing it again id ask him to use a more dense harder foam. = ;

99.9% loved it 3 times over