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I'm using the XAS 180s with 72 spoke wheel on my phase I with slightly
uprated springs; like them a lot, fits the wheel well well (sorry).
John
64BJ8
On 5/6/2025 11:52 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Mitchell,
>
> Tires are a somewhat contentious issue in the Healey world. I do have
> a background in the automotive world and started with the basics to
> pick a tire. Originally my car had 4" wide rims which limited the tire
> choice to a 165 HR 15. I upgraded to 4.5" wide rims which opens up a
> number of possibilities. The second consideration is to match the
> sidewall height of the original tires for a couple of reasons. The
> profile of the wheel well on our Healey is basically the same for all
> models. The tires should have an OD close to the original Roadspeed
> 5.90H15 to maintain the right look. Another consideration is the tire
> is a part of the suspension system and the sidewall of the tire
> influences the ride. A lower sidewall tends to produce a stiffer and
> harsher ride.
>
> I chose the Michelin XAS 180 HR 15 and am very happy with the look,
> ride and performance. If your BJ8 is a phase 2 with the raised
> suspension in my opinion the 165 HR 15 has too small a diameter and
> doesn't look at home within the wheel well profile. For the same
> reason I think the 185/70HR15 profile tires look out of place as well.
>
> For comparison this is the table I put together to help pick out
> tires. All of these will fit a 4.5" - 5" wide rim. The wider tires
> could have clearance issues but reports are they do fit.
>
> Tire Size  Inflated Diameter  Inflated Width
> Road Speed RS5 5.90H15 26.0 6.4
> Michelin XAS 165 HR 15 25.4 6.6
> Michelin XAS 180 HR 15 26.8 6.9
> Vredestein Sprint Classic 165HR15 25.4 6.6
> Vredestein Sprint Classic 185HR15 26.7 7.4
> Vredestein Sprint Classic 185/70HR15 25.2 7.4
>
>
> Hope this helps. The list has been quiet for a while so maybe this
> post will start a tire controversy!
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 6:34â?¯PM Hank Leach via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I use that tire on my BJ8 as it is closest to the original bias
> 590s. The 180 may affect your speedometer reading and could rub
> the sidelight wires but many use that size no matter. Anything
> bigger for sure will rub. Here is the look of the 165 with 60s in
> the the wheel well. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Mitch Simmons" <simmonsmitch23@gmail.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: May 5, 2025 at 4:50 PM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)
> Hello,
> anyone have recent experience with .....Michelin XZX 165SR15
> tires? I am considering them on my 66 BJ8......LMK....I have
> Dayton 60 spoke rims......Also considering Michelin XAS
> 180HR15...BUT not sure they will work with 4.5 inch wide rims (any
> experience with those would be appreciated ..as well
> Thanks
> Mitchell
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I'm using the XAS 180s with 72 spoke wheel on my phase I with
slightly uprated springs; like them a lot, fits the wheel well well
(sorry).<br>
<br>
John<br>
64BJ8<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2025 11:52 AM, Harold Manifold
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<div dir="ltr">Mitchell,
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<div>Tires are a somewhat contentious issue in the Healey world.
I do have a background in the automotive world and started
with the basics to pick a tire. Originally my car had 4" wide
rims which limited the tire choice to a 165 HR 15. I upgraded
to 4.5" wide rims which opens up a number of possibilities.
The second consideration is to match the sidewall height of
the original tires for a couple of reasons. The profile of the
wheel well on our Healey is basically the same for all models.
The tires should have an OD close to the original Roadspeed
5.90H15 to maintain the right look. Another consideration is
the tire is a part of the suspension system and the sidewall
of the tire influences the ride. A lower sidewall tends to
produce a stiffer and harsher ride.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I chose the Michelin XAS 180 HR 15 and am very happy with
the look, ride and performance. If your BJ8 is a phase 2 with
the raised suspension in my opinion the 165 HR 15 has too
small a diameter and doesn't look at home within the wheel
well profile. For the same reason I think the 185/70HR15
profile tires look out of place as well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For comparison this is the table I put together to help
pick out tires. All of these will fit a 4.5" - 5" wide rim.
The wider tires could have clearance issues but reports are
they do fit.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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width="113"> <col style="width:71pt" width="95">
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windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
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<td class="gmail-xl25"
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windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
width="90">Size</td>
<td class="gmail-xl26"
style="border-left:none;width:85pt;text-align:center;border-top:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
width="113"> Inflated Diameter </td>
<td class="gmail-xl26"
style="border-left:none;width:71pt;text-align:center;border-top:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
width="95"> Inflated Width </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Road Speed RS5</td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">5.90H15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
26.0 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
6.4 </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Michelin XASÂ </td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">165
HR 15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
25.4 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
6.6 </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Michelin XASÂ </td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">180
HR 15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
26.8 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
6.9 </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Vredestein Sprint Classic</td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">165HR15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
25.4 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
6.6 </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Vredestein Sprint Classic</td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">185HR15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
26.7 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
7.4 </td>
</tr>
<tr style="height:12.75pt" height="17">
<td class="gmail-xl24"
style="height:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom"
height="17">Vredestein Sprint Classic</td>
<td class="gmail-xl25"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt
solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">185/70HR15</td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
25.2 </td>
<td class="gmail-xl27"
style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid
windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid
windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom">Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
7.4 </td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</div>
<br>
<div>Hope this helps. The list has been quiet for a while so
maybe this post will start a tire controversy!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 6:34â?¯PM
Hank Leach via Healeys <<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>I use that tire on my BJ8 as it is closest to the
original bias 590s. The 180 may affect your speedometer
reading and could rub the sidelight wires but many use that
size no matter. Anything bigger for sure will rub. Here is
the look of the 165 with 60s in the the wheel well. Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Mitch Simmons" <<a
href="mailto:simmonsmitch23@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">simmonsmitch23@gmail.com</a>>
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Sent: May 5, 2025 at 4:50 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) </div>
<div>Hello,
<div>anyone have recent experience with .....Michelin XZX
165SR15 tires? I am considering them on my 66
BJ8......LMK....I have Dayton 60 spoke rims......Also
considering Michelin XAS 180HR15...BUT not sure they will
work with 4.5 inch wide rims (any experience with those
would be appreciated ..as well</div>
<div>Â </div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Mitchell</div>
</div>
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