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It's my understanding that 14.5 is the normal "full charge" of a 12v
battery. When the battery discharges, the alternator will increase output
to cover the discharge state, and current usage. So yes, yours is probably
working as designed.
On Mon, May 19, 2025, 18:08 Chuck Gee via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I have a silly question, what voltage do you consider overcharging? My
> current one charges at over 14v (maybe 14.5v) and wondered if I should be
> worried. I=E2=80=99ve done total loss for years and have just started us=
ing an
> alternator again.
>
> Chuck
>
> On May 19, 2025, at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM, Tony Sheach via Fot <fot@autox.team=
.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF Hi all
>
> My experience is that if you are going to use one of these Nippon Denso
> derived alternators, you need to go for the OE part.
>
> The various copies all have short lives, mainly because the diode set
> lacks up and usually starts overcharging the battery and causing the outp=
ut
> voltage to vary considerably, usually upwards. I=E2=80=99ve had this happ=
en and
> it=E2=80=99s not pleasant when a dry cell battery gets fat enough to pop.
>
> You can buy diode sets for the original Denso units and these are a quick
> change =E2=80=98in the field=E2=80=99 so my view is to buy a decent one a=
nd a couple of
> spare diode packs (the assembly with the spade terminals on the end) and
> replace as necessary.
>
> I have one 80amp unit that=E2=80=99s done 10 years and is going back in a=
fter the
> current refit. I appreciate that most don=E2=80=99t need this sort of out=
put, but
> it=E2=80=99s usually wet and dark here so it=E2=80=99s everything on. The=
smaller 45/50 amp
> units are probably longer lived.
>
> Best wishes to all
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 19 May 2025, at 16:12, Michael Moore via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Do you have the part number for the powermaster?
>
>
>
> Have a Good Day
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Michael T. Moore, CPA
>
> 3255 West 26
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/3255+West+26?entry=3Dgmail&source=3Dg=
>th
> Street
>
> Erie, PA 16506
>
>
>
> Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100
>
> Fax: 888-865-5279
>
> Email: mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com
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> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *JS Performance
> Motoring, LLC via Fot
> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2025 10:21 AM
> *To:* Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* FoTTriumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] What alternators are you using on a Spitfire?
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> The mini-denso style alternators work great. There is a differenc=
e
> in quality between the cheapest, bottom of the barrel options, and the mo=
re
> expensive options.
>
>
>
> When my $10 Amazon special failed at VIR last year (had been in service
> since 2020), the backup unit I borrowed from Henry Frye looked identical,
> but weighed substantially more! There's clearly a difference.
>
>
>
> Currently, I'm running a powermaster brand and it seems to be well made.
>
>
>
> I also like to run a larger pulley to slow things down. Here in the
> states, you can get a 4" pulley sold as Powermaster p/n 182. This is a
> direct swap onto the mini denso.
>
>
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> <image002.jpg>
>
>
>
> We were also watching the J500 at my house, did you catch the medium bore
> race, where under full course caution, the commentator shouted "Slow down=
,
> Henry!". We about fell out of our chairs laughing!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jason Sukey
>
> JS Performance Motoring, LLC
>
> 440.984.7720
>
> jason@jsperformancemotoring.com
>
> www.jspmparts.com
>
> https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 9:01=E2=80=AFAM Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.t=
eam.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm getting tired of replacing the stock type alternators. They used to
> last a few seasons but now it seems like a few weekends is the norm.
>
>
>
> Like oil, I know there will be many different opinions, including runnin=
g
> without one. That being said, any suggestions/part numbers/suppliers of a
> system that works for you?
>
>
>
> BTW, I enjoyed watching the Jeff 500 last weekend on the VRG live stream
> (currently available on YouTube). Nice job against the 911 Mr. Frye.
>
>
>
> thanks
>
> mike h
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">It's my understanding that 14.5 is the normal "full=
charge" of a 12v battery. When the battery discharges, the alternator=
will increase output to cover the discharge state, and current usage.=C2=
=A0 So yes, yours is probably working as designed.</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 19, 2025, 18:08 Chuck Gee via Fot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I have a silly question, wh=
at voltage do you consider overcharging?=C2=A0 My current one charges at ov=
er 14v (maybe 14.5v) and wondered if I should be worried.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99v=
e done total loss for years and have just started using an alternator again=
.<div><br id=3D"m_5446354516895218516lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Chuck</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Ma=
y 19, 2025, at 11:29=E2=80=AFAM, Tony Sheach via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
Hi all
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My experience is that if you are going to use one of these Nippon Dens=
o derived alternators, you need to go for the OE part.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The various copies all have short lives, mainly because the diode set =
lacks up and usually starts overcharging the battery and causing the output=
voltage to vary considerably, usually upwards. I=E2=80=99ve had this happe=
n and it=E2=80=99s not pleasant when a dry cell
battery gets fat enough to pop.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You can buy diode sets for the original Denso units and these are a qu=
ick change =E2=80=98in the field=E2=80=99 so my view is to buy a decent one=
and a couple of spare diode packs (the assembly with the spade terminals o=
n the end) and replace as necessary.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have one 80amp unit that=E2=80=99s done 10 years and is going back i=
n after the current refit. I appreciate that most don=E2=80=99t need this s=
ort of output, but it=E2=80=99s usually wet and dark here so it=E2=80=99s e=
verything on. The smaller 45/50 amp units are probably longer lived.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes to all</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Tony=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 19 May 2025, at 16:12, Michael Moore via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Do you have the par=
t number for the powermaster?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"PPC Handwriting&quo=
t;;color:#006600">Have a Good Day</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"PPC Handwriting";color:#006600"><u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"PPC Handwriting&quo=
t;;color:#006600">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:#006600"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#006600">Michael T. Moore, CPA<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
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span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#006600">Phone:=C2=A0 814-616-8=
652=C2=A0 ext 100<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 888-865-5279<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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></span></p>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot-=
bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 19, 2025 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Harmuth <<a href=3D"mailto:ofracer@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ofracer@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> FoTTriumph <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] What alternators are you using on a Spitfire?<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The mini-denso style alte=
rnators work great.=C2=A0 There is a difference in quality between the chea=
pest, bottom of the barrel options, and the more expensive options.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">When my $10 Amazon special failed at VIR last year (=
had been in service since 2020), the backup unit I borrowed from Henry Frye=
looked identical, but weighed substantially more!=C2=A0 There's clearl=
y a difference.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Currently, I'm running a powermaster brand and i=
t seems to be well made.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also like to run a larger pulley to slow things do=
wn.=C2=A0 Here in the states, you can get a 4" pulley sold as Powermas=
ter p/n 182.=C2=A0 This is a direct swap onto the mini denso.<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p>
<div><image001.jpg></div>
<u></u><u></u>
<p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p>
<div><image002.jpg></div>
<u></u><u></u>
<p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We were also watching the J500 at my house, did you =
catch the medium bore race, where under full course caution, the commentato=
r shouted "Slow down, Henry!".=C2=A0 We about fell out of our cha=
irs laughing!<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Sukey<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">JS Performance Motoring, LLC<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">440.984.7720<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:jason@jsperformancemotoring.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jason@jsperformancemotoring.com</a><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.jspmparts.com/"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">www.jspmparts.com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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oring/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.facebook.com/JSPer=
formanceMotoring/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 9:01<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Arial",sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>AM Mike Harmuth via Fot &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm getting tired of replacing the stock type al=
ternators. They used to last a few seasons but now it seems like a few week=
ends is the norm.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0Like oil, I know there will be many different =
opinions, including running without one. That being said, any suggestions/p=
art numbers/suppliers of a system that=C2=A0works for you?<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, I enjoyed watching the Jeff 500 last weekend on=
the VRG live stream (currently available=C2=A0on YouTube). Nice job agains=
t the 911 Mr. Frye.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">mike h<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
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