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To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
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From: Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC)
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I=E2=80=99ve been using Vredesteins for years with fine results. I=E2=80=99=
ve always stuck with the closest-to-original-size 165/80-15 on either 15 x =
5.5 minilite replicas or, currently,15 x 4.5 60-spoke=C2=A0tubeless MWS wir=
es and recommend them=C2=A0highly for performance and vintage looks. They h=
ave=C2=A0a more traditional tread pattern, though, so stopping and handling=
 in the=C2=A0wet require a bit more caution=E2=80=94which is merited anyway=
!


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On Tuesday, May 6, 2025, 7:05 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:

 FWIW, I'm on my 4th (5th?) set of Vredestein Sprint Classics 185/70R-15 on=
 my BJ8. I've run them for well over 100K miles and have never had an issue=
; they're a good all-around (all-season) tire that is more than adequate fo=
r all but all-out racing. They are good in the rain, adequate in snow, grip=
 well on pavement, have a smooth ride and are good for 20-25K miles (they'l=
l 'age out' before most owners put that many miles on them).
=20
 I run 6-inch Dayton 72-spoke stainless/chrome wires I bought from Bruce Er=
fer when he sold out of his garage in Soquel, before he opened his shop (Br=
itish Wire Wheel). If I ever buy new wheels, I'd probably go with 5.5" rims=
 as the wheels protrude a bit more from the sides than ideal, and the sidew=
alls look a little 'splayed'. The only rubbing I had was a R/R wheel that r=
ubbed against a rebound bolt on hard left corners (but caused no appreciabl=
e damage). I have had problems with tubes leaking due to chafing (yes, I ta=
lced the tubes). I got a new set of MWS painted for the BN2 shod with 165/8=
0 Vredesteins from Tom Monaco (the mounting was perfect but Tom said it was=
 a lot of work). These are sealed wheels which, IMO, are the only way to go=
.
=20
 I haven't priced any Michelins, but if they're a lot more expensive I can'=
t see the value (IIRC the Michelins require tubes but I don't know for sure=
). Note Michelin is otherwise my go-to; I have Cross Climate 2s on the Linc=
oln and Pilot Sport 4Ses on the Mustang. Years ago, the NA director for Vre=
destein owned a BJ8, and there was a red one on their pamphlets but I don't=
 know for a fact it was his.=20
=20
 Bob=20
=20
 On 5/6/2025 2:49 PM, Stephen Hutchings wrote:
 =20
=20
 Harold, that chart is really useful. What I=E2=80=99m wondering, is if you=
 opt for the 165 15 size- what height ratio works best? I mean, some of the=
 brands like Continental have a specification like 165 65 15. I noticed tha=
t you said you find the Vredestein Classic 185/70 HR 15 look out of place=
=E2=80=A6so you find the 70 height ratio too small? I don=E2=80=99t want an=
y rubbing.=20
  Stephen BJ8
=20
=20
 On May 6, 2025, at 11:52=E2=80=AFAM, Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net> =
wrote:=20
  Mitchell,=20
  Tires are a somewhat contentious=C2=A0issue in the Healey world. I do hav=
e a background=C2=A0in the automotive world and started with the basics to =
pick a tire. Originally my car had 4" wide rims which limited the tire choi=
ce to a 165 HR 15. I upgraded to 4.5" wide rims which opens up a number of =
possibilities. The second consideration is to match the sidewall height of =
the original tires for a couple of reasons. The profile of the wheel well o=
n our Healey is basically the same for all models. The tires should have an=
 OD close to the original=C2=A0Roadspeed 5.90H15 to maintain the right look=
. Another consideration is the tire is a part of the suspension system and =
the sidewall of the tire influences the ride. A lower sidewall tends to pro=
duce a stiffer and harsher ride.=20
  I chose the Michelin XAS 180 HR 15 and am very happy with the look, ride =
and performance. If your BJ8 is a phase 2 with the raised suspension in my =
opinion=C2=A0the 165 HR 15 has too small a diameter and doesn't look at hom=
e within the wheel well profile. For the same reason I think the 185/70HR15=
 profile tires look out of place as well.=20
  For comparison this is the table I put together to help pick out tires. A=
ll of these will fit a 4.5" - 5" wide rim. The wider tires could have clear=
ance issues but reports are they do fit.=20
  =20
| Tire | Size | =C2=A0Inflated Diameter=C2=A0 | =C2=A0Inflated Width=C2=A0 =
|
| Road Speed RS5 | 5.90H15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 26.0  | =C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.4  |
| Michelin XAS=C2=A0 | 165 HR 15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 25.4 =
 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.6  |
| Michelin XAS=C2=A0 | 180 HR 15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 26.8 =
 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.9  |
| Vredestein Sprint Classic | 165HR15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 25.4  | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.6  |
| Vredestein Sprint Classic | 185HR15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 26.7  | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 7.4  |
| Vredestein Sprint Classic | 185/70HR15 | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 25.2  | =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 7.4  |

 =20
 Hope this helps. The list has been quiet for a while so maybe this post wi=
ll start a tire controversy!=20
  Harold=20
 =20
  =20
  On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 6:34=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys <healeys@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
 =20
 I use that tire on my BJ8 as it is closest to the original bias 590s. The =
180 may affect your speedometer reading and could rub the sidelight wires b=
ut many use that size no matter. Anything bigger for sure will rub. Here is=
 the look of the 165 with 60s in the the wheel well. Hank
 --------------------=20
=20
 From: "Mitch Simmons" <simmonsmitch23@gmail.com>=20
 To: <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: May 5, 2025 at 4:50 PM PDT=20
 Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)  Hello, anyone have recent experience with=
 .....Michelin XZX 165SR15 tires? I am considering them on my 66 BJ8......L=
MK....I have Dayton 60 spoke rims......Also considering Michelin XAS 180HR1=
5...BUT not sure they will work with 4.5 inch wide rims (any experience wit=
h those would be appreciated ..as well =C2=A0 Thanks Mitchell  =C2=A0 _____=
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I=E2=80=99ve been using Vredesteins for years with fine results. I=E2=80=99=
ve always stuck with the closest-to-original-size 165/80-15 on either 15 x =
5.5 minilite replicas or, currently,15 x 4.5 60-spoke&nbsp;tubeless MWS wir=
es and recommend them&nbsp;highly for performance and vintage looks. They h=
ave&nbsp;a more traditional tread pattern, though, so stopping and handling=
 in the&nbsp;wet require a bit more caution=E2=80=94which is merited anyway=
!<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a style=3D"font-size:12px" hre=
f=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661=
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quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-=
top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Tuesday, May 6, 2025, 7:05 PM, Bob Spidell =
via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"i=
osymail"><div id=3D"yiv0878836663"><div>
    FWIW, I'm on my 4th (5th?) set of Vredestein Sprint Classics
    185/70R-15 on my BJ8. I've run them for well over 100K miles and
    have never had an issue; they're a good all-around (all-season) tire
    that is more than adequate for all but all-out racing. They are good
    in the rain, adequate in snow, grip well on pavement, have a smooth
    ride and are good for 20-25K miles (they'll 'age out' before most
    owners put that many miles on them).<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    I run 6-inch Dayton 72-spoke stainless/chrome wires I bought from
    Bruce Erfer when he sold out of his garage in Soquel, before he
    opened his shop (British Wire Wheel). If I ever buy new wheels, I'd
    probably go with 5.5" rims as the wheels protrude a bit more from
    the sides than ideal, and the sidewalls look a little 'splayed'. The
    only rubbing I had was a R/R wheel that rubbed against a rebound
    bolt on hard left corners (but caused no appreciable damage). I have
    had problems with tubes leaking due to chafing (yes, I talced the
    tubes). I got a new set of MWS painted for the BN2 shod with 165/80
    Vredesteins from Tom Monaco (the mounting was perfect but Tom said
    it was a lot of work). These are sealed wheels which, IMO, are the
    only way to go.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    I haven't priced any Michelins, but if they're a lot more expensive
    I can't see the value (IIRC the Michelins require tubes but I don't
    know for sure). Note Michelin is otherwise my go-to; I have Cross
    Climate 2s on the Lincoln and Pilot Sport 4Ses on the Mustang. Years
    ago, the NA director for Vredestein owned a BJ8, and there was a red
    one on their pamphlets but I don't know for a fact it was his. <br clea=
r=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Bob <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv0878836663yqtfd70362" class=3D"yiv0878836663yqt5270574862=
"><div class=3D"yiv0878836663moz-cite-prefix">On 5/6/2025 2:49 PM, Stephen =
Hutchings
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv0878836663yqtfd97227" class=3D=
"yiv0878836663yqt5270574862"></div><div><div id=3D"yiv0878836663yqtfd67994"=
 class=3D"yiv0878836663yqt5270574862">
      Harold, that chart is really useful.
      <div>What I=E2=80=99m wondering, is if you opt for the 165 15 size- w=
hat
        height ratio works best?</div>
      <div>I mean, some of the brands like Continental have a
        specification like 165 65 15.</div>
      <div>I noticed that you said you find the Vredestein Classic
        185/70 HR 15 look out of place=E2=80=A6so you find the 70 height ra=
tio
        too small?</div>
      <div>I don=E2=80=99t want any rubbing.</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div>Stephen BJ8<br clear=3D"none">
        <div><br clear=3D"none">
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <div>On May 6, 2025, at 11:52=E2=80=AFAM, Harold Manifold
              <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:manifold@t=
elus.net" class=3D"yiv0878836663moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">&lt;manifold@telus.n=
et&gt;</a> wrote:</div>
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ine">
            <div>
              <div dir=3D"ltr">Mitchell,
                <div><br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <div>Tires are a somewhat contentious&nbsp;issue in the
                  Healey world. I do have a background&nbsp;in the automoti=
ve
                  world and started with the basics to pick a tire.
                  Originally my car had 4" wide rims which limited the
                  tire choice to a 165 HR 15. I upgraded to 4.5" wide
                  rims which opens up a number of possibilities. The
                  second consideration is to match the sidewall height
                  of the original tires for a couple of reasons. The
                  profile of the wheel well on our Healey is basically
                  the same for all models. The tires should have an OD
                  close to the original&nbsp;Roadspeed 5.90H15 to maintain
                  the right look. Another consideration is the tire is a
                  part of the suspension system and the sidewall of the
                  tire influences the ride. A lower sidewall tends to
                  produce a stiffer and harsher ride.</div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <div>I chose the Michelin XAS 180 HR 15 and am very
                  happy with the look, ride and performance. If your BJ8
                  is a phase 2 with the raised suspension in my
                  opinion&nbsp;the 165 HR 15 has too small a diameter and
                  doesn't look at home within the wheel well profile.
                  For the same reason I think the 185/70HR15 profile
                  tires look out of place as well.</div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <div>For comparison this is the table I put together to
                  help pick out tires. All of these will fit a 4.5" - 5"
                  wide rim. The wider tires could have clearance issues
                  but reports are they do fit.</div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none">
                </div>
                <div>
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">Road
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le=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt=
 solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padd=
ing-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl25">165
                          HR 15</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
                          25.4 </td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          6.6 </td></tr><tr height=3D"17" style=3D"min-heig=
ht:12.75pt;"><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" height=3D"17" style=3D"min-hei=
ght:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bott=
om:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1p=
x;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl24">Miche=
lin
                          XAS&nbsp;</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" sty=
le=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:0.5pt=
 solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padd=
ing-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl25">180
                          HR 15</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;
                          26.8 </td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          6.9 </td></tr><tr height=3D"17" style=3D"min-heig=
ht:12.75pt;"><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" height=3D"17" style=3D"min-hei=
ght:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bott=
om:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1p=
x;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl24">Vrede=
stein
                          Sprint Classic</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1=
" style=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:=
0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px=
;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl25">165HR1=
5</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"border-top:none;border-left:=
none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowte=
xt;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663=
gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          25.4 </td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          6.6 </td></tr><tr height=3D"17" style=3D"min-heig=
ht:12.75pt;"><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" height=3D"17" style=3D"min-hei=
ght:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bott=
om:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1p=
x;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl24">Vrede=
stein
                          Sprint Classic</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1=
" style=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:=
0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px=
;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl25">185HR1=
5</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"border-top:none;border-left:=
none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowte=
xt;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663=
gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          26.7 </td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          7.4 </td></tr><tr height=3D"17" style=3D"min-heig=
ht:12.75pt;"><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" height=3D"17" style=3D"min-hei=
ght:12.75pt;border-top:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bott=
om:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-left:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1p=
x;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl24">Vrede=
stein
                          Sprint Classic</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1=
" style=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;text-align:center;border-right:=
0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px=
;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl25">185/70=
HR15</td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=3D"border-top:none;border-le=
ft:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;border-bottom:0.5pt solid windo=
wtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;padding-left:1px;color:windowtext;f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836=
663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          25.2 </td><td colspan=3D"1" rowspan=3D"1" style=
=3D"border-top:none;border-left:none;border-right:0.5pt solid windowtext;bo=
rder-bottom:0.5pt solid windowtext;padding-top:1px;padding-right:1px;paddin=
g-left:1px;color:windowtext;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;vertical-align=
:bottom;" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail-xl27">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                          7.4 </td></tr></tbody></table>
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                <div>Hope this helps. The list has been quiet for a
                  while so maybe this post will start a tire
                  controversy!</div>
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                <div>Harold</div>
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                <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv0878836663gmail_attr">On Mon, =
May 5, 2025 at
                  6:34=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofo=
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                  <div>I use that tire on my BJ8 as it is closest to the
                    original bias 590s. The 180 may affect your
                    speedometer reading and could rub the sidelight
                    wires but many use that size no matter. Anything
                    bigger for sure will rub. Here is the look of the
                    165 with 60s in the the wheel well. Hank<br clear=3D"no=
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                    From: "Mitch Simmons" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
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                    Subject: [Healeys] (no subject) </div>
                  <div>Hello,
                    <div>anyone have recent experience with
                      .....Michelin XZX 165SR15 tires? I am considering
                      them on my 66 BJ8......LMK....I have Dayton 60
                      spoke rims......Also considering Michelin XAS
                      180HR15...BUT not sure they will work with 4.5
                      inch wide rims (any experience with those would be
                      appreciated ..as well</div>
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                    <div>Thanks</div>
                    <div>Mitchell</div>
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