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Thanks to all who proffered an opinion regarding installing the apron
panel. I have now made a new panel and hope to be installing it soon.
I should add for the concous folks that the divider panels that I installed
on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#174 meerly clip onto the apron
and are easily removed to afford an unobstructed view from one front wheel
well to the other, which always looks a bit weird to me.
M
On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:09 a.m. Michael Salter, <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
wrote:
> As I mentioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car
> altogether.
> However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic wit=
h
> my BN1, I have installed vertical panels, very like the division panel
> used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as
> be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with
> overheating issues.
>
>
> M
>
> On Wed., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hank and Jean
>>
>> Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee, a=
n
>> early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged his ca=
r
>> Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave a=
nd
>> the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the first 35=
0
>> BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.
>>
>> I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help improve
>> cooling.
>>
>> As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three 3/16=
"
>> holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and o=
ne
>> in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radia=
tor
>> may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.
>>
>> If you want to improve cooling without permanently altering your very
>> original car, I have several better options.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Curtis Arndt
>> AH Concours Guidelines Committee
>>
>> On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron <
>> vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but i=
f
>>> you have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will
>>> have to drill three holes, two in the horizontal panels and one in the
>>> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds=
the
>>> top of the vertical panel in place.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank
>>> Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM
>>> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net =
<
>>> healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>>>
>>> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.
>>> They had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical
>>> "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did =
not
>>> have the vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your=
car
>>> (#172?) is early; my guess is that you never had the panel. Are there
>>> mounting holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertic=
al
>>> piece? The later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you
>>> could install one unless you remove the grille. Hank
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>>> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT
>>> Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>>> I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and below
>>> the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel
>>> attached to it) missing.
>>> If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the
>>> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to =
have
>>> to disturb the front shroud.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks to all who proffered an opinion regarding installi=
ng the apron panel. I have now made a new panel and hope to be installing i=
t soon.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I should add for the concous folks that the =
divider panels that I installed on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#=
174 meerly clip onto the apron and are easily removed to afford an unobstru=
cted view from one front wheel well to the other, which always looks a bit =
weird=C2=A0to me.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:09 a.m. Michael Salter, <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D=
"ltr">As I mentioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car al=
together. <br>
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with =
my BN1, I=C2=A0 have installed vertical panels, very like the division pane=
l used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with overhe=
ating issues.</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr">M</p></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">cnaarndt@gmail.com</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p =
dir=3D"ltr">Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help =
improve cooling.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for his question, it can be done but will require drillin=
g three 3/16" holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phill=
ips screws and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the=
grill and radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.=
</p><p dir=3D"ltr">If you want to improve cooling without permanently alter=
ing your very original car, I have several better options.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Curtis Arndt <br>
AH Concours Guidelines Committee </p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM J=
ean Caron <<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_=
restoration@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Michael,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in=C2=A0 the horizontal panels and one in the bon=
net hinge and cross brace assembly for
the machined screw that holds the top of the vertical panel in place.</div=
>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Jean</div>
<div id=3D"m_1741413191157868642m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021=
m_6245524722219332360ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line" dir=3D"auto"><b=
r>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_1741413191157868642m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021=
m_6245524722219332360ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"fon=
t-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:12pt">
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.</di=
v>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_1741413191157868642m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021=
m_6245524722219332360divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans=
-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t</a>> on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michael=
salter@gmail.com</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"norefer=
rer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.=
net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the ve=
rtical "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <br>
To: <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
<br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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