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Re: [Healeys] big Healey new steering box

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>, JSARCH <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] big Healey new steering box
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:20:25 -0700
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To further hijack this thread: I've noticed that, in not only both my 
Healeys AND my current and former Mustang GTs getting in and out of 
third seems to be more balky than the other gears, and I can't figure 
out why. I have to speed-match perfectly to avoid a little crunch.

Back to the thread: AFAIK, AHS and DWM are the only suppliers of 
improved steering boxes (and AHS may be using DWM components). Even with 
it's (arguable) faults I'm glad I installed the DWM box, esp. since it 
doesn't leak (yet), but I think they've gotten pricier (IIRC I paid 
$1,200 years ago). I believe shafts with 'improved' worm gears are 
available somewhere, and some (all?) boxes have replaceable pegs, so 
that's an option.

bs

On 6/23/2026 10:10 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Since we are discussing Denis Welch parts, I wanted to share my 
> experience. I purchased a set of DW synchro rings for my transmission, 
> but after 500 miles, it became impossible to shift from 4th to 3rd gear.
>
> Upon disassembly, I discovered the DW synchros had a manufacturing 
> defect. I have since replaced them with Bastuck synchros, and the 
> gearbox has been performing well.
>
> Best,
> Harold Manifold
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 11:05â?¯PM JSARCH via Healeys 
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Concerning their products, I have a cam, cam followers, and a
>     clutch ball race release bearing and I am very happy with the
>     products and their service.
>
>     JMS
>
>     â??62 BT7
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>     Spidell via Healeys
>     *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2026 6:03 PM
>     *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] big Healey new steering box
>
>     I've only had the one contact with him so I really couldn't say;
>     their support people were helpful. I've been happy with the
>     products from them--steering box included--cam, pistons, valves, etc.
>
>     Side note: On one of the 'Wheeler Dealers' episodes Mike went to
>     the Omega piston factory (I have them in my BJ8). I expected a
>     modern factory; they're in what I'd call an 'Old English workshop.'
>
>     bs
>
>     On 6/21/2026 3:55 PM, Richard Mayor via Healeys wrote:
>
>         And we all know that Jeremy Welch would never misrepresent
>         anything.
>
>         Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
>             On Jun 21, 2026, at 3:10â?¯PM, s.hutchings via Healeys
>             wrote:
>
>             
>
>             Well Bob, we all know that not everything is "evident on
>             the bench"!
>
>             Load tends to change things.
>
>             Stephen BJ8
>
>             Sent from my Galaxy
>
>             -------- Original message --------
>
>             From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>
>             Date: 2026-06-21 4:34 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
>             To: healeys@autox.team.net
>
>             Subject: Re: [Healeys] big Healey new steering box
>
>             AHS has a  video showing the assembly of one of their
>             boxes. You can
>             clearly see 'DWM' on the top cover (sorry, don't have a
>             link and it's
>             been a few years).
>
>             Here's a story: I got a call from Jeremy Welch himself and
>             he said, in
>             so many words "You Americans are full of it." The hard
>             spot isn't
>             evident on the bench.
>
>             bs
>
>             On 6/21/2026 10:26 AM, Stephen Hutchings via Healeys wrote:
>             > Iâ??d like to hear more about this too.
>             > AH Spares has one as well as DW.
>             > I wonder whether there would be any advantage to the
>             high ratio box. It may not be practical for parking, etc.
>             > I guess the main question is -How much slop is taken up,
>             given it is still a cam and peg design.
>             >
>             > I have an odd phenomenon with my car in that it
>             sometimes feels tighter than others, and it doesnâ??t seem
>             to have anything to do with how warm or cool it is.
>             > (Lube level is good.)
>             >
>             > Stephen, BJ8
>             >
>             >> On Jun 20, 2026, at 1:34â?¯PM, Ken Freese via Healeys
>             wrote:
>             >>
>             >> Are there any negatives to the new steering boxes aside
>             from the cost?
>             >> Ken Freese
>             >> 65 BJ8
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    To further hijack this thread: I've noticed that, in not only both
    my Healeys AND my current and former Mustang GTs getting in and out
    of third seems to be more balky than the other gears, and I can't
    figure out why. I have to speed-match perfectly to avoid a little
    crunch.<br>
    <br>
    Back to the thread: AFAIK, AHS and DWM are the only suppliers of
    improved steering boxes (and AHS may be using DWM components). Even
    with it's (arguable) faults I'm glad I installed the DWM box, esp.
    since it doesn't leak (yet), but I think they've gotten pricier
    (IIRC I paid $1,200 years ago). I believe shafts with 'improved'
    worm gears are available somewhere, and some (all?) boxes have
    replaceable pegs, so that's an option.<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2026 10:10 AM, Harold Manifold
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAFP1XCAi90qGbqQ229L+eKTiJvLO6vnyjfMcDdgMbhBNJuEing@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>Hi All,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Since we are discussing Denis Welch parts, I wanted to
          share my experience. I purchased a set of DW synchro rings for
          my transmission, but after 500 miles, it became impossible to
          shift from 4th to 3rd gear.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Upon disassembly, I discovered the DW synchros had a
          manufacturing defect. I have since replaced them with Bastuck
          synchros, and the gearbox has been performing well.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best,</div>
        <div>Harold Manifold</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at
          11:05â?¯PM JSARCH via Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid 
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div class="msg-4238972136953864398">
            <div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">
              <div class="m_-4238972136953864398WordSection1">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Concerning their
                    products, I have a cam, cam followers, and a clutch
                    ball race release bearing and I am very happy with
                    the products and their service.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">JMS</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">â??62 BT7 </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                <div>
                  <div
style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none 
none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 
0in">
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Healeys &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell via Healeys<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 22, 2026 6:03 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] big Healey new
                        steering box</span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">I've
                  only had the one contact with him so I really couldn't
                  say; their support people were helpful. I've been
                  happy with the products from them--steering box
                  included--cam, pistons, valves, etc.<br>
                  <br>
                  Side note: On one of the 'Wheeler Dealers' episodes
                  Mike went to the Omega piston factory (I have them in
                  my BJ8). I expected a modern factory; they're in what
                  I'd call an 'Old English workshop.' <br>
                  <br>
                  bs</p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/21/2026 3:55 PM, Richard
                    Mayor via Healeys wrote:</p>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal">And we all know that Jeremy Welch
                    would never misrepresent anything. </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                        <br>
                      </p>
                      <blockquote
                        style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On
                          Jun 21, 2026, at 3:10<span
                            style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">â?¯</span>PM,
                          s.hutchings via Healeys <a
                            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                          wrote:</p>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span>
                        </p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Well Bob, we all know
                            that not everything is "evident on the
                            bench"!</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Load tends to change
                            things.</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Stephen BJ8</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent from my Galaxy</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="color:black">--------
                              Original message --------</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From:
                              Bob Spidell via Healeys <a
                                href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                            </span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date:
                              2026-06-21 4:34 PM (GMT-05:00) </span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To:
                              <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>
                            </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="color:black">Subject:
                              Re: [Healeys] big Healey new steering box
                            </span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="color:black"> </span></p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">AHS
                          has a  video showing the assembly of one of
                          their boxes. You can <br>
                          clearly see 'DWM' on the top cover (sorry,
                          don't have a link and it's <br>
                          been a few years).<br>
                          <br>
                          Here's a story: I got a call from Jeremy Welch
                          himself and he said, in <br>
                          so many words "You Americans are full of it."
                          The hard spot isn't <br>
                          evident on the bench.<br>
                          <br>
                          bs<br>
                          <br>
                          On 6/21/2026 10:26 AM, Stephen Hutchings via
                          Healeys wrote:<br>
                          &gt; Iâ??d like to hear more about this too.<br>
                          &gt; AH Spares has one as well as DW.<br>
                          &gt; I wonder whether there would be any
                          advantage to the high ratio box. It may not be
                          practical for parking, etc.<br>
                          &gt; I guess the main question is -How much
                          slop is taken up, given it is still a cam and
                          peg design.<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; I have an odd phenomenon with my car in
                          that it sometimes feels tighter than others,
                          and it doesnâ??t seem to have anything to do
                          with how warm or cool it is.<br>
                          &gt; (Lube level is good.)<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt; Stephen, BJ8<br>
                          &gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt; On Jun 20, 2026, at 1:34<span
                            style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">â?¯</span>PM,
                          Ken Freese via Healeys <a
                            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt;&gt;<br>
                          &gt;&gt; Are there any negatives to the new
                          steering boxes aside from the cost?<br>
                          &gt;&gt; Ken Freese<br>
                          &gt;&gt; 65 BJ8<br>
                          &gt;&gt;
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