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"auto">When we=E2=80=99d go off topic in the past, it was Frank Zappa, cats,=
Elizabeth the Witch, nothing divisive. <div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBegin=
ningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Jun 22, 2026, at 12:35=E2=80=AFAM, Rick Fisk via Spri=
dgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-=
type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Delete key works fine. But this kind of nonsense does not bel=
ong here.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 21, 202=
6, at 5:55=E2=80=AFPM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Delete key not working?</div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spr=
idgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Well, it=
's supposed to be. This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.</div=
><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;color:navy">Jim Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D=
"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC</p></div></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 21, 20=
26, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spr=
idgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum. <div><br></div><div>Bill</=
div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D=
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eplying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">than "Re: Contents of Spridgets digest..."<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Today's Topics:<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> 1. No LBC - Budap=
est, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &n=
bsp; immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-------------------=
---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat,=
20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 <=
<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">weslake1330@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets <=
<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Sp=
ridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"> Islamic immigration and healthcare<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <CAMho=
h1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3D<a href=3D"mailto:BkMtxCZp7zVM%2BGgdTw@mail.=
gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">BkMtxCZp7zVM+GgdTw@mail.gmai=
l.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D=
"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi list, some o=
f you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them=
with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me. Some of you find them interesting a=
nd some have deleted this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">already. We=
ll, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyo=
ne<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of some issues and that l=
eads to misunderstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sure, the list should b=
e to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highway=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly, part of the reason count=
ries are helping Ukraine in their fight<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">against Ru=
ssian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum on<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.&nb=
sp; The summary is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that Ukraine gave up their nucl=
ear weapons as part of a defence deal. The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">o=
ther obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks to<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">completely invade it there is choice other countries=
have to make in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">whether to sit back and do nothin=
g or find a way to help. Thirdly you have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to consi=
der a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">goes onto rebuild the USSR. Maybe that sounds like a p=
roblem for the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europeans and I guess it is, or at l=
east first. But if the dominos carry<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on fall=
ing then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">NATO is the North Atlantic (not North A=
merican) Treaty Organisation (the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">French call it O=
TAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to de=
fend<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">each other against a big bully. It?s no=
t a European idea or club and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Canada is a member.&=
nbsp; Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the chea=
p.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not everyone in the club might agree that every=
one is paying enough.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">However, the member paying t=
he most doesn?t say it will pay less but argues<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ot=
hers should pay more. Why is that? Well, you might have to do yo=
ur own<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">research on that.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.=
The EU is not the same<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">thing as Europe beca=
use the EU is a kind of club. Strangely enough the EU<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where n=
ot all<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the members pay in enough money or get equa=
l benefits out of it. The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">republic of Irelan=
d is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU. The<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Euro=
pe but is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not in the EU (it left some years ago).<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is Europe being taken o=
ver by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants? Well, I don?t<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">think so. I could make a joke and say that in England at least, t=
he Hindus<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and Sikhs would never allow that to happ=
en. You also have to understand<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">there are actually=
2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I li=
ke to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think of it. Over the years I?ve worke=
d alongside Moslems and they were<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">great people and=
not extremists.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I read=
a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because they<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather t=
han pay for their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">own protection. In the UK f=
ree healthcare came into being after WW2 and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">exist=
ed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">more on defence than it does now. However, it?s no=
t quite as encompassing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as it used to be. Fo=
r example, when I was a child, medical prescriptions<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay. Simila=
rly,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">all dental care was free when I was a child b=
ut now while it is still<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">subsidised there is 3 tie=
r system of fees and it can still be very<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">expensiv=
e. I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare. A=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">question to consider then is if the US spent less=
money on NATO and defense<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally would it be e=
nough for free healthcare?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">understanding of and I?m confident that listers are ge=
nerally smarter than<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">everyone else but may have fr=
iends with lesser rides and knowledge<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally!&n=
bsp; Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of any<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">political party and haven?t always voted for the same pol=
itical party. I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have enlisted military servi=
ce but not combat experience. Recently I even<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly rec=
ord the initials for my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christian/Fore names. . . .=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?d like to finish wit=
h a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he can<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him bette=
r<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">take a closer look at the American Indian?. =
; However, it seems to be bunk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and that he never s=
aid that but did say a bunch of other stuff. So, how<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who a=
re first<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will be last, and many who are last will b=
e first.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Daniel<br></di=
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