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To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>, Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 181, Issue 2
From: "AOL Mail Update \(Terms & Policy\) via Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 20:50:31 +0000 (UTC)
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 Do not FORGET MONTANA BOB!LOL!Chuck=C2=A0Recently trying to figure out wha=
t's older.....dirt or me?
    On Monday, June 22, 2026 at 03:34:49 PM EDT, Ron Soave via Spridgets <s=
pridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 When we=E2=80=99d go off topic in the past, it was Frank Zappa, cats, Eliz=
abeth the Witch, nothing divisive.=C2=A0
Ron Soave

On Jun 22, 2026, at 12:35=E2=80=AFAM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:



=EF=BB=BFDelete key works fine. =C2=A0But this kind of nonsense does not be=
long here.

On Jun 21, 2026, at 5:55=E2=80=AFPM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:



=EF=BB=BFDelete key not working?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.=
net> wrote:

Well, it's supposed to be.=C2=A0 This kind of stuff is really not welcome h=
ere.

Jim Ryan

=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC

On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <sprid=
gets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.=C2=A0
Bill1958 Sprite Iris Blue

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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100
From: Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3DBkMtxCZp7zVM+GgdTw=
@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but
never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them with
me.=C2=A0 Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-ma=
il
already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone
understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.
Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will
confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highway
and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.

Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight
against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum on
Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.=C2=A0 The summary=
 is
that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.=C2=A0=
 The
other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks to
completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make in
whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you have
to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then
goes onto rebuild the USSR.=C2=A0 Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.=C2=A0 But if the dominos ca=
rry
on falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.

NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the
French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).
It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defend
each other against a big bully.=C2=A0 It?s not a European idea or club and
Canada is a member.=C2=A0 Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.
Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.
However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but argues
others should pay more.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 Well, you might have to do=
 your own
research on that.

Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.=C2=A0 The EU is not the sa=
me
thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club.=C2=A0 Strangely enough th=
e EU
has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all
the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it.=C2=A0 The
republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.=C2=A0=
 The
United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but is
not in the EU (it left some years ago).

Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?=C2=A0 Well, I do=
n?t
think so.=C2=A0 I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the H=
indus
and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand
there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this
is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like to
think of it.=C2=A0 Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they we=
re
great people and not extremists.

I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because they
rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for their
own protection.=C2=A0 In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 a=
nd
existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a lot
more on defence than it does now.=C2=A0 However, it?s not quite as encompas=
sing
as it used to be.=C2=A0 For example, when I was a child, medical prescripti=
ons
were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay.=C2=A0 Similarl=
y,
all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still
subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very
expensive.=C2=A0 I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare=
.=C2=A0 A
question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defense
generally would it be enough for free healthcare?

I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their
understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than
everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge
generally!=C2=A0 Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member o=
f any
political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.=C2=
=A0 I
have enlisted military service but not combat experience.=C2=A0 Recently I =
even
applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe
when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for my
Christian/Fore names. . . .

I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he can
be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better
take a closer look at the American Indian?.=C2=A0 However, it seems to be b=
unk
and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff.=C2=A0 So, h=
ow
about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are first
will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Daniel
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        <div>Do not FORGET MONTANA BOB!</div><div>LOL!</div><div>Chuck&nbsp=
;</div><div>Recently trying to figure out what's older.....dirt or me?</div=
><div><br></div>
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                        On Monday, June 22, 2026 at 03:34:49 PM EDT, Ron So=
ave via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                    <div><br></div>
               =20
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414"><div>When we=E2=
=80=99d go off topic in the past, it was Frank Zappa, cats, Elizabeth the W=
itch, nothing divisive.&nbsp;<div><br id=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414lineBre=
akAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Soave</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 22, 2026, at 12:35=E2=80=AFAM, Rick Fi=
sk via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Delete key works fine. &nbsp;But this kind of nons=
ense does not belong here.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Jun 21, 2026, at 5:55=E2=80=AFPM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets &lt;spri=
dgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Delete key not working=
?</div><br><div class=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414gmail_quote ydp991a1fcdyiv=
9221938414gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv92=
21938414gmail_attr">On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex;" class=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414gmail_quote"><div><div>Well, it's=
 supposed to be.&nbsp; This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.</div>=
<div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:12.8px;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;color:navy;">Jim Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.8px;">=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC</p></div></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938414gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AF=
PM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp991a1fcdyiv9221938=
414gmail_quote"><div>
Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Bill<=
/div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px;" hr=
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=3D"ltr">Today's Topics:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&nbsp;  1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; immigration and healthcare (Weslak=
e1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330@gmail.com"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">weslake1330@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) E=
urope, the EU,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Islamic immigra=
tion and healthcare<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAMhoh1U086VzL_ZMH428L64qsUw6=3Dfb=3D<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:BkMtxCZp7zVM%2BGgdTw@mail.gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">BkMtxCZp7zVM+GgdTw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post =
stuff like this but<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">never challenge any of the po=
ints I make or even privately debate them with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me=
.&nbsp; Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">already.&nbsp; Well, I read a lot of stuff on Yo=
uTube and regardless of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion or political =
allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but =
I think the archive will<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">confirm other stuff, som=
etimes contentious (public drafting on the highway<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukrain=
e in their fight<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">against Russian aggression and a=
ttacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Secur=
ity signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994.&nbsp; The summary is<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part=
 of a defence deal.&nbsp; The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">other obvious reaso=
n is that when one country attacks another and seeks to<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make =
in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">whether to sit back and do nothing or find a w=
ay to help. Thirdly you have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to consider a domino=
 effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and then<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">goes onto rebuild the USSR.&nbsp; Maybe that sounds like a problem fo=
r the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europeans and I guess it is, or at least fi=
rst.&nbsp; But if the dominos carry<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on falling th=
en you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">NATO is the North Atlantic (not North Ameri=
can) Treaty Organisation (the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">French call it OTAN=
 for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to def=
end<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">each other against a big bully.&nbsp; It?s no=
t a European idea or club and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Canada is a member.=
&nbsp; Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the =
cheap.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Not everyone in the club might agree that =
everyone is paying enough.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">However, the member pa=
ying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but argues<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">others should pay more.&nbsp; Why is that?&nbsp; Well, you might have =
to do your own<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">research on that.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Europe isn?t a country it?s a geograph=
ic region.&nbsp; The EU is not the same<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">thing as =
Europe because the EU is a kind of club.&nbsp; Strangely enough the EU<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as =
a club where not all<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the members pay in enough mo=
ney or get equal benefits out of it.&nbsp; The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">re=
public of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.&nbsp; T=
he<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in =
NATO and is in Europe but is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not in the EU (it le=
ft some years ago).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is=
 Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?&nbsp; Well, I don?=
t<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think so.&nbsp; I could make a joke and say tha=
t in England at least, the Hindus<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and Sikhs would=
 never allow that to happen. You also have to understand<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure=
 if this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">is quite the same thing as Catholics and=
 Protestants but it?s how I like to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think of it.&=
nbsp; Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">great people and not extremists.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free=
 healthcare is because they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rely on the US, as pa=
rt of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for their<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">own protection.&nbsp; In the UK free healthcare came into being after =
WW2 and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">existed all the way through the Cold War =
at a time when the UK spent a lot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">more on defence=
 than it does now.&nbsp; However, it?s not quite as encompassing<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">as it used to be.&nbsp; For example, when I was a child, me=
dical prescriptions<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">were free but for decades sin=
ce there has been a fee to pay.&nbsp; Similarly,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can s=
till be very<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">expensive.&nbsp; I think at least on=
e country in Europe has free healthcare.&nbsp; A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defense=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally would it be enough for free healthcare=
?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I think that?s all t=
he stuff I believe I can help others with their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">u=
nderstanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">everyone else but may have friends with lesser rid=
es and knowledge<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally!&nbsp; Also, while I h=
ave political opinions, I am not a member of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party.&nbsp=
; I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have enlisted military service but not combat=
 experience.&nbsp; Recently I even<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">applied for an=
d have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initia=
ls for my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christian/Fore names. . . .<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?d like to finish with a quote f=
rom Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he can<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be hap=
py and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">take a closer look at the American Indian?.&nbsp; Howeve=
r, it seems to be bunk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and that he never said tha=
t but did say a bunch of other stuff.&nbsp; So, how<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are fi=
rst<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">will be last, and many who are last will be f=
irst.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Daniel<br></div>=
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