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Ditto.=C2=A0 For the same reasons.=C2=A0 Unless you are looking at doing se=
veral, there is too much learning curve.=C2=A0 I installed the snaps in a t=
onneau and that was tough enough.
I also think that if installers like a tight fitting top to avoid areas tha=
t are loose.=C2=A0 Stretching keeps the tops looking snug.=C2=A0 If you hav=
e the top installed during the cold season they will not stretch the top as=
much as it will not be as warm as during the normal driving season and thi=
s should make top erection easier.=C2=A0 Also, leave it up as much as possi=
ble for the first year or so.=C2=A0 This means putting the top up after eac=
h drive while it is still warm.=C2=A0 Vinyl and the rubber layer on canvas =
tops all have a chemical called an elastomer.=C2=A0 This makes the plastic =
flexible (stretchable) but this chemical will dissipate (evaporate) over ti=
me and the material will not stretch as before.=C2=A0 If the top is in the =
erected position when this happens the top will assume the shape as erected=
and will be easier to put up going forward.=C2=A0 This has worked for me o=
n both vinyl and canvas tops.
Dave=20
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On Friday, April 11, 2025 at 06:06:18 AM CDT, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@=
comcast.net> wrote: =20
Hi Dave, I had a Robbins cloth top installed on my TR6 after starting the =
job myself. =C2=A0In my opinion, the top is too expensive and chance of doi=
ng a good job too small that I took it to a Robbins certified top installer=
. The top looks great, but is a bear to get up when the weather is cool. I =
spoke to a very experienced top installer years later about how tight the t=
op was going up and he told me that that the rear section of the Robbins cl=
oth top is cut too small and it make sit hard to get the top perfect. =C2=
=A0He said that vinyl tops were more forgiving. =C2=A0 I love the look and =
feel of the top, but, as I said it is sometimes difficult to put up. Best, =
Bob =E2=80=9C72 TR6
On Apr 10, 2025, at 9:13=E2=80=AFPM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote=
:
Have a new top (Robbins cloth); the old one is pretty rough. =C2=A0Looking =
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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Ditto. For the same reasons. Unl=
ess you are looking at doing several, there is too much learning curve.&nbs=
p; I installed the snaps in a tonneau and that was tough enough.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false">I also think that if installers like a tight fitting top to avoid a=
reas that are loose. Stretching keeps the tops looking snug. If=
you have the top installed during the cold season they will not stretch th=
e top as much as it will not be as warm as during the normal driving season=
and this should make top erection easier. Also, leave it up as much =
as possible for the first year or so. This means putting the top up a=
fter each drive while it is still warm. Vinyl and the rubber layer on=
canvas tops all have a chemical called an elastomer. This makes the =
plastic flexible (stretchable) but this chemical will dissipate (evaporate)=
over time and the material will not stretch as before. If the top is=
in the erected position when this happens the top will assume the shape as=
erected and will be easier to put up going forward. This has worked =
for me on both vinyl and canvas tops.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp=
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<div><div id=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv0405740055"><div>Hi Dave,<div=
><span class=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv0405740055Apple-tab-span">=09</span>I had a R=
obbins cloth top installed on my TR6 after starting the job myself. I=
n my opinion, the top is too expensive and chance of doing a good job too s=
mall that I took it to a Robbins certified top installer. The top looks gre=
at, but is a bear to get up when the weather is cool. I spoke to a very exp=
erienced top installer years later about how tight the top was going up and=
he told me that that the rear section of the Robbins cloth top is cut too =
small and it make sit hard to get the top perfect. He said that vinyl=
tops were more forgiving. </div><div><span class=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv04=
05740055Apple-tab-span">=09</span>I love the look and feel of the top, but,=
as I said it is sometimes difficult to put up.<div><span class=3D"ydp9eb62=
b49yiv0405740055Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Best,</div><div><span class=3D"yd=
p9eb62b49yiv0405740055Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Bob</div><div><span class=
=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv0405740055Apple-tab-span">=09</span>=E2=80=9C72 TR6<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv0405740055yqt80071" class=3D"ydp9eb62=
b49yiv0405740055yqt7893263706"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 10, 20=
25, at 9:13=E2=80=AFPM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:</div>=
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp9eb62b49yiv0405740055Apple-interchange-newli=
ne"><div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ydp9eb62b49y=
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05740055WordSection1"><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:C=
alibri, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">Have a new top (Robbin=
s cloth); the old one is pretty rough.</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in=
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