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Good luck.
Dave=20
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On Thursday, June 26, 2025 at 07:13:13 PM CDT, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gm=
ail.com> wrote: =20
Thanks, David. =C2=A0The Amazon listing indicates compatibility with the o=
riginal charger and several reviews say they had no trouble doing so. =C2=
=A0It is a $40-$50 gamble either way and I have too many projects at the mo=
ment to add rebuilding a battery pack to the mix. =C2=A0I will give the Ama=
zon pack a try and report back.
Jim
p.s. I switched to Milwaukee battery tools, as well. =C2=A0I started with t=
he M12 set and then added M18=E2=80=99s as well. =C2=A0I especially like th=
e fact that one charger will charge both the 12v and 18v batteries. =C2=A0I=
still have some of my old tools and have bought a couple of adaptors to be=
able to continue using a few of them with the M18 batteries. =C2=A0They ar=
e reasonably inexpensive and work very well. =C2=A0I wish I could do that w=
ith the Bosch saw, but no one make one and, while I could probably rig some=
thing using the old pack, I don't want to risk burning out the motor runnin=
g it at only 18 volts.
On Jun 25, 2025, at 7:48=E2=80=AFAM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrot=
e:
I used to have an old Makita drill that came with Ni-Cad a battery that eve=
ntually stopped being usable.=C2=A0 I bought a pair of lithium-based replac=
ement batteries.=C2=A0 On the surface they looked like a much better option=
with double the capacity and they worked with existing drill and charger.=
=C2=A0 But (there's always a but, isn't there?) to make Lithium batteries w=
ork in a Ni-Cad environment required a electronic circuit and this circuit =
was always on and drew enough power to deplete the battery overnight.=C2=A0=
I could charge them up in the evening and the next morning they would be c=
lose to dead.
But I see these are Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries.=C2=A0 Ni-MH batteries h=
ave characteristics more similar to Lithium - at least with regards to the =
charging regime (I've designed a battery charger for Ni-MH so I am familiar=
with this) but are less susceptible to abuse.=C2=A0 I also see the bullet =
point about no self-discharge - which was my problem.=C2=A0 This is a $45 g=
amble (as it is with most no-name stuff from the Pacific rim) but YMMV.=C2=
=A0 This might be a good one.=C2=A0 Let us know.
BTW I bought a pair of Milwaukee 12V tools and never looked back.=C2=A0 I p=
itched all my Ni-Cad drills and recycled the batteries.
Dave=20
=20
On Tuesday, June 24, 2025 at 01:36:47 PM CDT, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gma=
il.com> wrote: =20
I have an old Bosch 24v miter saw that I would like to be able to continue=
using for quick, non critical cuts. =C2=A0The only problem is that the NiC=
ad batteries won=E2=80=99t hold a charge long enough to be useful. And, I d=
on=E2=80=99t think there is a way to utilize other, e.g. Milwaukee M18, bat=
teries in a 24v system. =C2=A0Besides, there don=E2=80=99t appear to be any=
adaptors available.
So, that leaves me with two choices: rebuild my current batteries or buy ne=
w ones on Amazon. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve taken one of the battery packs apart a=
nd can see that it just uses standard Sub C 1.2v batteries - 20 of them! =
=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve never rebuilt battery packs but it looks pretty straight=
forward; just time consuming. =C2=A020 Sub C batteries would run me about =
$40-50. =C2=A0(Having it done professionally looks to cost at least twice t=
hat.) =C2=A0Or, I could just buy a Chinese-made replacement pack for just a=
few bucks more. =C2=A0(https://www.amazon.com/Exmate-Replacement-Battery-C=
ompatible-BH-2424/dp/B073Z9QHXS/ref=3Dsr_1_17). =C2=A0
I=E2=80=99m sure the replacement batteries are also made in China, but is t=
here any reason to assume that rebuilding the packs myself will result in a=
better, longer lasting battery? =C2=A0Any advice from those who have done =
this before will be much appreciated.
Thanks,Jim_______________________________________________
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d. The Amazon listing indicates compatibility with the original charg=
er and several reviews say they had no trouble doing so. It is a $40-=
$50 gamble either way and I have too many projects at the moment to add reb=
uilding a battery pack to the mix. I will give the Amazon pack a try =
and report back.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Jim</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>p.s. I switched to Milwaukee battery tools, as well. &=
nbsp;I started with the M12 set and then added M18=E2=80=99s as well.  =
;I especially like the fact that one charger will charge both the 12v and 1=
8v batteries. I still have some of my old tools and have bought a cou=
ple of adaptors to be able to continue using a few of them with the M18 bat=
teries. They are reasonably inexpensive and work very well. I w=
ish I could do that with the Bosch saw, but no one make one and, while I co=
uld probably rig something using the old pack, I don't want to risk burning=
out the motor running it at only 18 volts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"ydpd054=
34ecyiv8678996157lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div id=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv86=
78996157yqt44230" class=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv8678996157yqt0863439708"><div><br =
clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 25, 2025, at 7:48=E2=
=80=AFAM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:</div><br clear=3D"=
none" class=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv8678996157Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div=
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ass=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv8678996157ydp5b697443yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I used to have an old Makita drill that came with Ni-Cad a battery=
that eventually stopped being usable. I bought a pair of lithium-bas=
ed replacement batteries. On the surface they looked like a much bett=
er option with double the capacity and they worked with existing drill and =
charger. But (there's always a but, isn't there?) to make Lithium bat=
teries work in a Ni-Cad environment required a electronic circuit and this =
circuit was always on and drew enough power to deplete the battery overnigh=
t. I could charge them up in the evening and the next morning they wo=
uld be close to dead.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">But I see these are Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries. Ni-MH =
batteries have characteristics more similar to Lithium - at least with rega=
rds to the charging regime (I've designed a battery charger for Ni-MH so I =
am familiar with this) but are less susceptible to abuse. I also see =
the bullet point about no self-discharge - which was my problem. This=
is a $45 gamble (as it is with most no-name stuff from the Pacific rim) bu=
t YMMV. This might be a good one. Let us know.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">BTW I bought a pair of Milw=
aukee 12V tools and never looked back. I pitched all my Ni-Cad drills=
and recycled the batteries.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=
=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv8678996157ydp5b697443signature"><div style=3D"font-style:=
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tone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydpd05434ecyiv8678996157ydp39c7469ayiv73893=
28937"><div>I have an old Bosch 24v miter saw that I would like to be able =
to continue using for quick, non critical cuts. The only problem is t=
hat the NiCad batteries won=E2=80=99t hold a charge long enough to be usefu=
l. And, I don=E2=80=99t think there is a way to utilize other, e.g. Milwauk=
ee M18, batteries in a 24v system. Besides, there don=E2=80=99t appea=
r to be any adaptors available.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So, that =
leaves me with two choices: rebuild my current batteries or buy new ones on=
Amazon. I=E2=80=99ve taken one of the battery packs apart and can se=
e that it just uses standard Sub C 1.2v batteries - 20 of them! I=E2=
=80=99ve never rebuilt battery packs but it looks pretty straight forward; =
just time consuming. 20 Sub C batteries would run me about $40-50. &n=
bsp;(Having it done professionally looks to cost at least twice that.) &nbs=
p;Or, I could just buy a Chinese-made replacement pack for just a few bucks=
more. (<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Exmate-Repla=
cement-Battery-Compatible-BH-2424/dp/B073Z9QHXS/ref=3Dsr_1_17" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Exmate-Replacement-Battery-Co=
mpatible-BH-2424/dp/B073Z9QHXS/ref=3Dsr_1_17</a>). </div><div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div>I=E2=80=99m sure the replacement batteries are also =
made in China, but is there any reason to assume that rebuilding the packs =
myself will result in a better, longer lasting battery? Any advice fr=
om those who have done this before will be much appreciated.</div><div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jim</div></div></div>__________=
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