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> Well, it's supposed to be. This kind of stuff is really not welcome here=
.
>
> Jim Ryan
>
> =C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.
>>
>> Bill
>> 1958 Sprite Iris Blue
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>> 1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic
>> immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:20:32 +0100
>> From: Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com>
>> To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Budapest, NATO (OTAN) Europe, the EU,
>> Islamic immigration and healthcare
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>> Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but
>> never challenge any of the points I make or even privately debate them
>> with
>> me. Some of you find them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail
>> already. Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of any
>> opinion or political allegiances it does seem to me that not everyone
>> understands the basic of some issues and that leads to misunderstandings=
.
>> Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive wi=
ll
>> confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (public drafting on the highw=
ay
>> and not in LBCs) topics get discussed.
>>
>> Firstly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight
>> against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Budapest Memorandum
>> on
>> Security signed in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994. The summary i=
s
>> that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal. T=
he
>> other obvious reason is that when one country attacks another and seeks =
to
>> completely invade it there is choice other countries have to make in
>> whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you ha=
ve
>> to consider a domino effect scenario where Russia defeats Ukraine and th=
en
>> goes onto rebuild the USSR. Maybe that sounds like a problem for the
>> Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first. But if the dominos carr=
y
>> on falling then you once again have a USSR that threatens the USA.
>>
>> NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisation (the
>> French call it OTAN for French grammatical reasons I don?t understand).
>> It?s not a club of buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defe=
nd
>> each other against a big bully. It?s not a European idea or club and
>> Canada is a member. Despite the rhetoric you might read or hear, NATO
>> isn?t a way for everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.
>> Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying enough.
>> However, the member paying the most doesn?t say it will pay less but
>> argues
>> others should pay more. Why is that? Well, you might have to do your o=
wn
>> research on that.
>>
>> Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region. The EU is not the same
>> thing as Europe because the EU is a kind of club. Strangely enough the =
EU
>> has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not al=
l
>> the members pay in enough money or get equal benefits out of it. The
>> republic of Ireland is not in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU. T=
he
>> United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europe but =
is
>> not in the EU (it left some years ago).
>>
>> Is Europe being taken over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants? Well, I don?=
t
>> think so. I could make a joke and say that in England at least, the
>> Hindus
>> and Sikhs would never allow that to happen. You also have to understand
>> there are actually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if th=
is
>> is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?s how I like
>> to
>> think of it. Over the years I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were
>> great people and not extremists.
>>
>> I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is because
>> they
>> rely on the US, as part of NATO, to protect them rather than pay for the=
ir
>> own protection. In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and
>> existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the UK spent a l=
ot
>> more on defence than it does now. However, it?s not quite as encompassi=
ng
>> as it used to be. For example, when I was a child, medical prescription=
s
>> were free but for decades since there has been a fee to pay. Similarly,
>> all dental care was free when I was a child but now while it is still
>> subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very
>> expensive. I think at least one country in Europe has free healthcare. =
A
>> question to consider then is if the US spent less money on NATO and
>> defense
>> generally would it be enough for free healthcare?
>>
>> I think that?s all the stuff I believe I can help others with their
>> understanding of and I?m confident that listers are generally smarter th=
an
>> everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge
>> generally! Also, while I have political opinions, I am not a member of
>> any
>> political party and haven?t always voted for the same political party. =
I
>> have enlisted military service but not combat experience. Recently I ev=
en
>> applied for and have been granted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe
>> when I get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for
>> my
>> Christian/Fore names. . . .
>>
>> I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford: ?Any man who thinks he
>> can
>> be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him bette=
r
>> take a closer look at the American Indian?. However, it seems to be bun=
k
>> and that he never said that but did say a bunch of other stuff. So, how
>> about a quote from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are
>> first
>> will be last, and many who are last will be first.
>>
>> Daniel
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Delete key not working?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 21 Ju=
n 2026 at 20:31, Jim Ryan via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Well, it's =
supposed to be.=C2=A0 This kind of stuff is really not welcome here.</div><=
div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><p style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;color:navy">Jim Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A9=C2=BF=C2=A9=C2=AC</p></div></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 2=
1, 2026, 3:16=E2=80=AFPM wilkmanracing--- via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mail=
to:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
>
Silly me. I thought this was a Sprite forum.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Bill<=
/div><div>1958 Sprite Iris Blue<br><br><div><a style=3D"font-size:12px" hre=
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ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 1. No LBC - Budapest, NATO (O=
TAN) Europe, the EU, Islamic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
immigration and healthcare (Weslake1330)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 20 Jun=
2026 23:20:32 +0100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Weslake1330 <<a hre=
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lake1330@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Spridgets <<a h=
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">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Spri=
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ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Islamic immigration and healthcare<br></div><div di=
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Hi list, some of you are don?t like it when I post stuff like this but<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">never challenge any of the points I make or even priv=
ately debate them with<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">me.=C2=A0 Some of you find=
them interesting and some have deleted this e-mail<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">already.=C2=A0 Well, I read a lot of stuff on YouTube and regardless of =
any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">opinion or political allegiances it does seem=
to me that not everyone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understands the basic of=
some issues and that leads to misunderstandings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sure, the list should be to discuss LBC stuff but I think the archive will=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">confirm other stuff, sometimes contentious (publ=
ic drafting on the highway<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and not in LBCs) topic=
s get discussed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">First=
ly, part of the reason countries are helping Ukraine in their fight<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">against Russian aggression and attacks, lie with The Bud=
apest Memorandum on<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Security signed in Budapest, =
Hungary, on 5 December 1994.=C2=A0 The summary is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>that Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons as part of a defence deal.=C2=
=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">other obvious reason is that when one cou=
ntry attacks another and seeks to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">completely inva=
de it there is choice other countries have to make in<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">whether to sit back and do nothing or find a way to help. Thirdly you =
have<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to consider a domino effect scenario where R=
ussia defeats Ukraine and then<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">goes onto rebuild =
the USSR.=C2=A0 Maybe that sounds like a problem for the<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Europeans and I guess it is, or at least first.=C2=A0 But if the d=
ominos carry<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on falling then you once again have =
a USSR that threatens the USA.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">NATO is the North Atlantic (not North American) Treaty Organisatio=
n (the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">French call it OTAN for French grammatical=
reasons I don?t understand).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It?s not a club of =
buddies to bully anyone but a club of buddies to defend<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">each other against a big bully.=C2=A0 It?s not a European idea or =
club and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Canada is a member.=C2=A0 Despite the rh=
etoric you might read or hear, NATO<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">isn?t a way f=
or everyone apart from the USA to get defence on the cheap.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Not everyone in the club might agree that everyone is paying eno=
ugh.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">However, the member paying the most doesn?t =
say it will pay less but argues<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">others should pay=
more.=C2=A0 Why is that?=C2=A0 Well, you might have to do your own<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">research on that.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Europe isn?t a country it?s a geographic region.=C2=A0 The E=
U is not the same<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">thing as Europe because the EU =
is a kind of club.=C2=A0 Strangely enough the EU<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
has been viewed by some members and one ex-member as a club where not all<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the members pay in enough money or get equal benef=
its out of it.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">republic of Ireland is n=
ot in NATO but is in Europe and is in the EU.=C2=A0 The<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">United Kingdom (Great Britain, sort of) is in NATO and is in Europ=
e but is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">not in the EU (it left some years ago).<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is Europe being taken =
over by Islamic (Moslem) immigrants?=C2=A0 Well, I don?t<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">think so.=C2=A0 I could make a joke and say that in England at lea=
st, the Hindus<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and Sikhs would never allow that t=
o happen. You also have to understand<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">there are a=
ctually 2 major and one lesser Islamic group ? not sure if this<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">is quite the same thing as Catholics and Protestants but it?=
s how I like to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think of it.=C2=A0 Over the years=
I?ve worked alongside Moslems and they were<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">grea=
t people and not extremists.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I read a lot that the reason Europeans have free healthcare is bec=
ause they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rely on the US, as part of NATO, to pro=
tect them rather than pay for their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">own protectio=
n.=C2=A0 In the UK free healthcare came into being after WW2 and<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">existed all the way through the Cold War at a time when the=
UK spent a lot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">more on defence than it does now.=
=C2=A0 However, it?s not quite as encompassing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">as=
it used to be.=C2=A0 For example, when I was a child, medical prescription=
s<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">were free but for decades since there has been =
a fee to pay.=C2=A0 Similarly,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">all dental care wa=
s free when I was a child but now while it is still<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">subsidised there is 3 tier system of fees and it can still be very<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">expensive.=C2=A0 I think at least one country in Europ=
e has free healthcare.=C2=A0 A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">question to consid=
er then is if the US spent less money on NATO and defense<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">generally would it be enough for free healthcare?<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I think that?s all the stuff I believe=
I can help others with their<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">understanding of an=
d I?m confident that listers are generally smarter than<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">everyone else but may have friends with lesser rides and knowledge=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">generally!=C2=A0 Also, while I have political op=
inions, I am not a member of any<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">political party =
and haven?t always voted for the same political party.=C2=A0 I<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">have enlisted military service but not combat experience.=C2=
=A0 Recently I even<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">applied for and have been gra=
nted a HM Forces Veteran ID card and maybe<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">when I=
get my 3rd one it will actually correctly record the initials for my<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Christian/Fore names. . . .<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?d like to finish with a quote from Henry Ford:=
?Any man who thinks he can<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be happy and prospero=
us by letting the government take care of him better<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">take a closer look at the American Indian?.=C2=A0 However, it seems to =
be bunk<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and that he never said that but did say a=
bunch of other stuff.=C2=A0 So, how<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">about a quot=
e from the bible? Matthew Ch19 v30 (NIV) But many who are first<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">will be last, and many who are last will be first.<br></div>=
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