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One of my Austin-Healeys has diff whine since I put in taller gears, and
it whines on accel or decel, but I'll be damned if I can recall which it
is offhand. The other possibility is the throw-out bearing, but it would
likely whine all the time (and eventually fail outright).
None of these would trigger a CEL; what was the cause of that (should be
on the invoice she got from the shop)?
On 5/25/2025 8:15 AM, Moose wrote:
> Jeff, this is a good idea. Â Will do.
>
> The reason I'm really confused is that the noise is only when you give
> it ANY throttle. Â So even if you are not accelerating (i.e. Not under
> load.), but just have the pedal down a little, you hear the noise.
>
> Wouldn't both the differential and drive shafts make noise all the
> time, or at least under load?
>
> But I plan to do a much deeper dive.
>
> Thanks again to everyone with this.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
> To: Moose <eric@megageek.com>
> Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Date: 05/25/2025 11:03
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Manual transmission issue???
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Have you checked the differential(s) and drive shafts? My TR6 had an
> annoying transmission noise that, after a rebuild, turned out to be in
> the diff.
>
> Noises in a car are notoriously hard to track down by sitting inside.
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2025, 08:47 Moose <_eric@megageek.com_
> Braintrust,
>
> I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark here.
> Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.
>
> The issue, Â 2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission
> makes a 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.
>
> Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a franchise
> mechanic shop. Â (owner of car is a single woman without much money.)
>
> When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have to
> charge you to look at it." Â So since she already suspected they caused
> the issues, she didn't want to give them more money.
>
> She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new
> transmission." Â That will more than likely exceed the valve of the
> Jeep. So they just did a fluid change, and that was it. Note, in
> their carfax report, they listed that they "installed a new
> transmission" in addition to the fluid change, so I don't trust them
> either.
>
> It's a manual 5 speed. I checked the fluid level and it is exactly
> where it should be. So I did a road test.
>
> Here is the crazy part.
> There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any transmission
> problems. No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth and pulls
> strong. No vibrations. The only thing is that noise, and that ONLY
> happens when you give it throttle.
>
> So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot off the
> gas pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas, noise
> returns.
>
> If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise. If you are engine
> braking, no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the gas
> in the slightest.
>
> Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.
>
> I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to make
> it start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to get it
> fixed and that it's a simple fix.
>
> I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl that
> doesn't have much money and really takes care of her car. She is also
> a good friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus points for me. 8>)
>
> Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the
> Soldier's that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no matter
> what country you are from.)
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
> Moose_______________________________________________
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One of my Austin-Healeys has diff whine since I put in taller gears,
and it whines on accel or decel, but I'll be damned if I can recall
which it is offhand. The other possibility is the throw-out bearing,
but it would likely whine all the time (and eventually fail
outright).<br>
<br>
None of these would trigger a CEL; what was the cause of that
(should be on the invoice she got from the shop)?<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2025 8:15 AM, Moose wrote:<br>
</div>
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Jeff, this is a good idea. Â Will
do.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">The reason I'm really confused is
that
the noise is only when you give it ANY throttle. Â So even if you
are
not accelerating (i.e. Not under load.), but just have the pedal
down a
little, you hear the noise.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Wouldn't both the </font><font
size="3">differential
and drive shafts make noise all the time, or at least under
load?</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">But I plan to do a much deeper
dive.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Thanks again to everyone with
this.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">From: Â Â Â
 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";><fishplate@gmail.com></a></font>
<br>
<font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To: Â Â Â
 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Moose
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:eric@megageek.com";><eric@megageek.com></a></font>
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<font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Cc: Â Â Â
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class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>"shop-talk@autox.team.net"</a>
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<font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date: Â Â Â
 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">05/25/2025 11:03</font>
<br>
<font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject: Â Â
  </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
Manual transmission issue???</font>
<br>
<hr noshade="noshade">
<br>
<br>
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<font size="3">Have you checked the differential(s) and drive
shafts?Â
My TR6 had an annoying transmission noise that, after a rebuild,
turned
out to be in the diff.  </font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="3">Noises in a car are notoriously hard to track down
by
sitting inside.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size="3">On Sun, May 25, 2025, 08:47 Moose <</font><a
href="mailto:eric@megageek.com"; moz-do-not-send="true"><font
size="3" color="blue"><u>eric@megageek.com</u></font></a><font
size="3">>
wrote:</font>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Braintrust,</font><font size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark
here.Â
Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
The issue, Â 2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual
transmission
makes a 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a
franchise mechanic
shop. Â (owner of car is a single woman without much money.)
</font><font
size="3"><br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have
to
charge you to look at it." Â So since she already suspected they
caused the issues, she didn't want to give them more money.</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new
transmission."
 That will more than likely exceed the valve of the Jeep. So
they
just did a fluid change, and that was it. Note, in their carfax
report,
they listed that they "installed a new transmission" in addition
to the fluid change, so I don't trust them either.</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
It's a manual 5 speed. I checked the fluid level and it is
exactly
where it should be. So I did a road test.</font><font size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Here is the crazy part.</font><font size="3"> </font><font
size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any
transmission problems.Â
No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth and pulls strong. No
vibrations.Â
The only thing is that noise, and that ONLY happens when you
give it throttle.</font><font size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot
off the gas
pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas, noise
returns.</font><font size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise. If you are engine
braking,
no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the gas in
the slightest.</font><font size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to
make it
start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to get it
fixed
and that it's a simple fix.</font><font size="3"> <br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl
that doesn't
have much money and really takes care of her car. She is also a
good
friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus points for me.
8>)</font><font
size="3">
<br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the
Soldier's
that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no matter what
country
you are from.)</font><font size="3"> <br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Have a great weekend!</font><font size="3"> <br>
</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
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