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Re: [Shop-talk] Manual transmission issue???

To: Moose <eric@megageek.com> engine=ICAP:2.0.293,Aquarius:18.0.1099,Hydra:6.0.736,FMLib:17.12.80.40 definitions=2025-05-25_07,2025-05-22_01,2025-03-28_01 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.22.0-2503310001 definitions=main-2505250156
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Manual transmission issue???
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 11:52:04 -0500
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Also, try up hill &amp; down.&nbsp;<div><br=
></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat H=
orne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On May 25, 2025, at 10:51=E2=80=AFAM, Moose &lt;eric@megag=
eek.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"sans-serif">Jeff, this is a good idea. &nbsp;Will do.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">The reason I'm really confused is t=
hat
the noise is only when you give it ANY throttle. &nbsp;So even if you are
not accelerating (i.e. Not under load.), but just have the pedal down a
little, you hear the noise.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Wouldn't both the </font><font size=
=3D"3">differential
and drive shafts make noise all the time, or at least under load?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But I plan to do a much deeper dive=
.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks again to everyone with this.=
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough &lt;fishpl=
ate@gmail.com&gt;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp;=
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&nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose &lt;eric@megageek.co=
m&gt;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Cc: &nbsp; &nbsp;=
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&nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">"shop-talk@autox.team.net"=

&lt;Shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">05/25/2025 11:03</font>
<br><font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &=
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&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]
Manual transmission issue???</font>
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<br><font size=3D"3">Have you checked the differential(s) and drive shafts?&=
nbsp;
My TR6 had an annoying transmission noise that, after a rebuild, turned
out to be in the diff.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Noises in a car are notoriously hard to track down by
sitting inside.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">On Sun, May 25, 2025, 08:47 Moose &lt;</font><a href=3D=
"mailto:eric@megageek.com";><font size=3D"3" color=3D"blue"><u>eric@megageek.=
com</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">&gt;
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Braintrust,</font><font size=3D"3">=
 <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I don't mess with transmissions at all, so I'm in the dark here.&nbsp;
Hopefully someone has the answer and it's an easy fix.</font><font size=3D"3=
">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
The issue, &nbsp; 2017 Jeep Patriot with a 5 speed manual transmission
makes a 'whirring' sound when driving in 3rd gear or higher.</font><font siz=
e=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Started about a year ago, when car was picked up from a franchise mechanic
shop. &nbsp;(owner of car is a single woman without much money.) </font><fon=
t size=3D"3"><br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
When she called them back they where like, "Well, we would have to
charge you to look at it." &nbsp;So since she already suspected they
caused the issues, she didn't want to give them more money.</font><font size=
=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
She brought it to another shop and they said, "You need a new transmission."=

&nbsp;That will more than likely exceed the valve of the Jeep. So they
just did a fluid change, and that was it.&nbsp; Note, in their carfax report=
,
they listed that they "installed a new transmission" in addition
to the fluid change, so I don't trust them either.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
It's a manual 5 speed.&nbsp; I checked the fluid level and it is exactly
where it should be.&nbsp; So I did a road test.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>=

</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here is the crazy part.</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"sans-serif"><br>
There is NOTHING that I can feel that would indicate any transmission proble=
ms.&nbsp;
No slipping, no chucking, it shifts smooth and pulls strong.&nbsp; No vibrat=
ions.&nbsp;
The only thing is that noise, and that ONLY happens when you give it throttl=
e.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
So if you are going down the street at 50, and take your foot off the gas
pedal, noise goes away. If you just give it a little gas, noise returns.</fo=
nt><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
If you have it in neutral coasting, no noise.&nbsp; If you are engine brakin=
g,
no noise. The noise is ONLY if you have your foot on the gas in the slightes=
t.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Note, there is also no noticeable noise in 1st or 2nd gear.</font><font size=
=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I am thinking that the original shop did something to the car to make it
start this noise, knowing she would take it back there to get it fixed
and that it's a simple fix.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I would love to be able to fix this as it is a hard working girl that doesn'=
t
have much money and really takes care of her car.&nbsp; She is also a good
friend of my fiancee, so it would be bonus points for me. 8&gt;)</font><font=
 size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks and I hope everyone takes a moment to think about all the Soldier's
that gave their lives to protect our freedoms, (no matter what country
you are from.)</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Have a great weekend!</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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