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Sadly AI doesn't give credit to the ingenuity of Rudge Whitworth who
patented the self tightening splined wheel hub in 1921.
On Tue., Apr. 15, 2025, 4:12 a.m. sbyers--- via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> The knockoffs are designed to tighten while driving. But experience has
> taught me that they can loosen if not seated to begin with, and they migh=
t
> not be seated if tightened with the weight on the hub. My theory is that
> weight on the wheel makes the knockoff off-center when tightened.
>
>
>
> Here is the AI-generated response to the question: =E2=80=9CShould knock=
offs be
> tightened with the weight on, or off, the wheel?
>
>
>
> *=E2=80=9CKnock-off hubs should be tightened with the weight off the vehi=
cle*.
> This ensures proper torque and prevents the wheel from being unevenly
> seated. While on the ground, the wheel is subjected to weight distributio=
n,
> and the knock-off might not seat as snugly when tightened under load.=E2=
=80=9D
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *JSARCH
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 6:46 PM
> *To:* 'Alan Wasserman' <alanwassermannc@gmail.com>; 'Healeys' <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>
>
> Interesting. The knock-off on my BT7 tighten while the car is driving.
> Below is an A.I. generated answer to the question =E2=80=9Cdo knock-offs =
tighten
> while driving=E2=80=9D:
>
>
>
> Yes, knock-offs are designed to be self-tightening while driving, meaning
> they can become tighter as the vehicle moves forward. However, if they ar=
e
> not installed correctly or if the vehicle is towed in reverse, they can
> loosen instead.
>
>
>
> John,
>
> =E2=80=9962 BT&
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Alan
> Wasserman
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 2:28 PM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Cc:* Alan Wasserman <AlanWassermanNC@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>
>
> Just a warning to all. As you may imagine, sometimes our wheels may ?
> loosen. Had my BJ8 on the lift today, checking brakes. Jiggled the
> wheels, just because. Rear left had =E2=80=9Csignificant" lateral moveme=
nt. Took
> the old rubber mallet and had to tighten almost 1/4 turn. *Very scary*.
> Please check your wheels whenever your car is on a lift. Happy rides.
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2025, at 2:00=E2=80=AFPM, healeys-request@autox.team.net wrote=
:
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Sadly AI doesn't give credit to the ingenuity of Rudge W=
hitworth who patented the self tightening splined wheel hub in 1921.</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., Apr. 15, 2025, 4:12 a.m. sbyers--- via Healeys, &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"=
#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_4=
415317720752167672WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" fac=
e=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">The knockoffs are designed to =
tighten while driving.<span>=C2=A0 </span>But experience has taught me that=
they can loosen if not seated to begin with, and they might not be seated =
if tightened with the weight on the hub.<span>=C2=A0 </span>My theory is th=
at weight on the wheel makes the knockoff off-center when tightened.<span>=
=C2=A0 </span><u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Aptos=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Here is the AI-generated response to the=
question:<span>=C2=A0 </span>=E2=80=9CShould knockoffs be tightened with t=
he weight on, or off, the wheel?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold">=
=E2=80=9CKnock-off hubs should be tightened with the weight off the vehicle=
</span></font></b><span>. This ensures proper torque and prevents the wheel=
from being unevenly seated. While on the ground, the wheel is subjected to=
weight distribution, and the knock-off might not seat as snugly when tight=
ened under load.=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><f=
ont size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D=
"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Steve Byers<u></u><u></u></span></=
font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt">HBJ8L/36666<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt">BJ8 Registry<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><fo=
nt size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">AHCA Delegate=
at Large<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=
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</span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Aptos"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><div><div style=3D"border:none=
;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span><=
/font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">heale=
ys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">On Be=
half Of </span></b>JSARCH via Healeys<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold=
">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 14, 2025 6:46 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Alan Wasserman' <<a href=3D"mailto=
:alanwassermannc@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">alanwasser=
mannc@gmail.com</a>>; 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Heal=
eys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:"Calibri",sans-serif">Interesting. The knock-off on my BT7 tight=
en while the car is driving. Below is an A.I. generated answer to the quest=
ion =E2=80=9Cdo knock-offs tighten while driving=E2=80=9D:<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2"=
face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
",sans-serif">Yes, knock-offs are designed to be self-tightening while=
driving, meaning they can become tighter as the vehicle moves forward. How=
ever, if they are not installed correctly or if the vehicle is towed in rev=
erse, they can loosen instead.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></f=
ont></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">John,<u><=
/u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D=
"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",s=
ans-serif">=E2=80=9962 BT&<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></f=
ont></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Ca=
libri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans=
-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Ca=
libri"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans=
-serif"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Wasserman<br>=
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 14, 2025=
2:28 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Healeys <=
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">C=
c:</span></b> Alan Wasserman <<a href=3D"mailto:AlanWassermanNC@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">AlanWassermanNC@gmail.com</a>><b=
r><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] Hea=
leys Tires/wheels lose<u></u><u></u></span></font></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Just a warning to a=
ll.=C2=A0 As you may imagine, sometimes our wheels may ? loosen.=C2=A0 Had =
my BJ8 on the lift today, checking brakes.=C2=A0 Jiggled the wheels, just b=
ecause.=C2=A0 Rear left had =E2=80=9Csignificant" lateral movement.=C2=
=A0 Took the old rubber mallet and had to tighten almost 1/4 turn. =C2=A0<i=
><span style=3D"font-style:italic">Very scary</span></i>.=C2=A0 Please chec=
k your wheels whenever your car is on a lift.=C2=A0 Happy rides.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></font></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.=
0pt"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></=
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in-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Aptos=
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